Experts: Zimmerman Attorney Made a Smart Move Questioning Investigator During Hearing
- Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:19pm by
Madeleine Morgenstern
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George Zimmerman appears before Circuit Judge Kenneth R. Lester Jr. Friday, April 20, 2012, during a bond hearing in Sanford, Fla. (AP Photo/Orlando Sentinel, Gary W. Green, Pool)
SANFORD, Fla. (The Blaze/AP) — By questioning a state investigator on the witness stand during a routine bail hearing, George Zimmerman‘s defense attorney showed some of the weaknesses in prosecutors’ claims that the neighborhood watch volunteer committed second-degree murder, legal experts say.
A judge ruled Friday that Zimmerman can be released on $150,000 bail while he awaits trial on murdering 17-year-old Trayvon Martin during a Feb. 26 confrontation in a Sanford, Fla. gated community.
Zimmerman was expected to post bond with a couple of days and leave jail possibly this weekend.
Zimmerman apologized to Martin’s parents, who were in the courtroom for the bail hearing, in a surprise appearance on the witness stand. Zimmerman is pleading not guilty and claims self-defense.
“I am sorry for the loss of your son,” said Zimmerman, marking the first time he has spoken in public about the confrontation with the unarmed black teen. “I did not know how old he was. I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. I did not know if he was armed or not.”
The apology came after Zimmerman’s defense attorney, Mark O’Mara, questioned an investigator for the special prosecutor, sentence by sentence, about a probable cause affidavit the investigator signed outlining certain facts in the case.
Investigator Dale Gilbreath testified that he does not know whether Martin or Zimmerman threw the first punch and that there is no evidence to disprove Zimmerman’s contention he was walking back to his vehicle when confronted by Martin. The affidavit says “Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued.”
But Gilbreath also said Zimmerman’s claim that Martin was slamming his head against the sidewalk just before he shot the teenager was “not consistent with the evidence we found.” He gave no details.
Legal observers said the questioning of Gilbreath was strategically smart for O‘Mara since the investigator’s statements can be used at a later date to either contradict other testimony or be used to decide how to question other witnesses.
“I thought it was a really great thing to do,” said Tom Mesereau, a Los Angeles attorney whose clients have included singer Michael Jackson and actor Robert Blake. “He used the hearing to get information that can only help his defense. What was supposed to be strictly a hearing for bail, he used it as a discovery device, and was able to nail the investigator into making very, very pointed statements about the investigation and about what evidence they have.”
The questioning exposed some of the weaknesses in the state’s case, said Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. Attorney in Miami who is now in private practice.
“There are many miles left in this case but I think O’Mara helped the defense by eliciting those responses,” Coffey said. “He is going to look for the chance to cross-examine that same investigator and ask him the same questions. If the investigator changes his story, he is going to lose credibility with the jury.”
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda dismissed any notion that the investigator’s testimony chipped away at their case.
“You have not heard all of the evidence,” de la Rionda said after the hearing. “Please be patient and wait for the trial.”
Bail is not unheard of in second-degree murder cases, and legal experts had predicted it would be granted for Zimmerman because of his ties to the community, because he turned himself in after he was charged last week, and because he has never been convicted of a serious crime.
Prosecutors had asked for $1 million bail, citing two previous scrapes Zimmerman had with the law, neither of which resulted in charges. In 2005, he had to take anger management courses after he was accused of attacking an undercover officer who was trying to arrest Zimmerman’s friend. In another incident, a girlfriend accused him of attacking her.
In taking the stand, Zimmerman opened himself up to questions from de la Rionda, who grilled him on whether he made an apology to police on the night of the shooting, and why he waited so long to express remorse to Martin’s parents.
Zimmerman said he told police he felt sorry for the parents. He also said he didn’t say anything to them sooner because his former attorneys told him not to.
The parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, had no comment as they left the courtroom.. Their attorneys spurned the apology.
“This was the most disingenuous and unfair thing I’ve seen,” said attorney Natalie Jackson. “This was the most unmeaningful apology.”
As part of the bail hearing, Zimmerman‘s family testified that he wouldn’t flee if released and would be no threat to the community.
“He is absolutely not a violent person,” said his wife, Shellie Zimmerman.
Zimmerman’s father, Robert Zimmerman, said that even when confronted, his son was likely to “turn the other cheek.” The father also described his son’s injuries the morning after Martin was shot, saying he had a cut and swollen lip, a protective cover over his nose and gashes on the back of his head.
Zimmerman’s mother, Gladys, said her son worked with two black children as part of a mentoring program that required him to venture into a dangerous neighborhood. “He said, `Mom, if I don’t go, they don’t have nobody,’” she recalled.
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Comments (181)
Grasshopper42
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:06pm“The parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton” , what ever happened to a child having parents with the same last name? This country is totally f’d up with political correctness and shack up honeys. God help us!
Report Post »rrjenn
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:13amShe names all her children Trayvon so all she has to do is call one name to call them all, but when she wants just one she uses their last names. It’s just that sad.
Report Post »Robert999
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:30amG. Gordon Liddy tells a similar story about when he was in prison. One of the other inmates was a Filipino guy who did that, he named all his kids the same. They were all boys and they all had the same name as their father.
Report Post »Ded-Bred
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:47amYeah, couldn’t help but notice that too. Are they married? Now that same-sex marriages are endorsed by our president, guess it doesn’t matter.
Report Post »rsanchez1
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:01pmReal classy of Trayvon’s parents to reject the apology. They’re out for blood, it’s that simple.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:42pmOK, first off, Zimmerman is clearly not white. Libs should stop lying about that. However, now that we know what Z actually looks like, there is something that troubles me about his story. Martin was tall and strong (a football player). Z is half his size and build, so it stands to reason that M would have overpowered him if the struggle happened before Z drew his gun. Here‘s the inconsistency in Z’s side of the story: He and his family claim that M jumped him from behind, knocked him to the ground, straddled him, broke his nose and banged his head against the sidewalk. Because M’s full weight was on him and his nose was bleeding profusely, Z was choking and beginning to lose consciousness. That is when Z allegedly drew his weapon.
Sorry, but I find it hard to believe that a tiny guy fighting a much stronger attacker who has pinned him down has the time, ability or even state of mind to repeatedly call for help. That’s not how a grown man reacts (but I teen might). If I were in Z’s shoes, I would have used the little air I had left in my lungs to fight the guy off me, not squeaked again and again for help. How did Z manage to cry out repeatedly and then draw his gun and shoot a far stronger man dead when the attacker was on top of him beating and choking the life out of him? M could have EASILY prevented Z from doing so. Sorry, this is real life, not the movies. Z’s story doesn’t add up.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:57pmKryptonite? Have you ever heard of adrenaline??? Ever here a story about a 110 b woman lifting up a 1 ton car to save her child’s life? I am so glad you are NOT a defense attorney, then again you could come here to Florida and be a STELLAR prosecutor! Since, ours seem to be nothing more than three stooges wanna bes that are so desperate for the hollywood lights!
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:13pmIt was also classy for them to COPYRIGHT Trayvon’s name, etc. Real classy.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:44pmhttp://rt.com/usa/news/trayvon-martin-zimmerman-sanford-597/
this is the original copyright link.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:50pmThis case is God sent and Zimmerman is the Martyr we will have in the end. An innocent man falsely accused because of racist blacks profiling him as guilty (because he is not black and his name sounds white) when so far every thing negative said about Zimmerman has turned out to be just the opposite. This is a set up by God Himself to show who the real racist profilers are. How they must daily have to hang their heads in shame yet they still want blood. FOOLS, WE ARE WINNING. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha …………………..
Report Post »berlich
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:03pmThat may be true, but as the parents of the victim they should be given some amout of understanding. The media on the other hand has been ridiculous in its slanting of this story.
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:44pmI think it was the attorney of the parents who negated the apology. But yes, who is she to say his apology wasn’t heartfelt? This may be going too far, but Zimmerman had a Christ-like moment by apologizing, considering what he has been through since this season began. He turned the other cheek and tried to bring some comfort to the parents of a dead child, all while there is a tumult of violent rhetoric, calls for his head on a stick, and too many other sorrows thrust onto him and his family.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:47pmKryptonite-
Report Post »The thug was busy beating Z’s face, easy to draw a weapon from the bottom unseen. That is why the mounted position is better in MMA event than in real life against an armed opponent. It could have just as easily been a knife Z pulled and the results would have been the same.
RightUnite
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:39pm@CEMERIOUS… Give him time to google it…. Hehehehehe!
Report Post »OuttheSocialist
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:51pmLiberals never accept an apology unless it is from a prominent liberal. I believe these parents should apologize to this young man for their son attacking this poor hispanic male who is only in this country to take care of his family and give back to the neighborhood he belongs to. 17 year old Trayvon should not have been dressed as a gangsta to begin with and should not have attacked this man when confronted.
Report Post »tennantusa
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:16pmOf course. He’s a white hispanic, who out of blood lust, killed their son while he was on his way to choir practice, after a prayer meeting with Rev. Sharpnot!
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:03pm@hidden_lion
The thug was busy beating Z’s face, easy to draw a weapon from the bottom unseen. It could have just as easily been a knife Z pulled
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Yeah, and Z was busy squeaking for help. C’mon, man. If he didn’t instinctively reach for his gun BEFORE he started swallowing blood from a broken nose AND was wheezing from the weight of the perp on his chest AND was disoriented from having his head banged against the sidewalk, AND was starting to go unconscious, then I don’t see how it was easy for him to draw his gun AFTER suffering such physical injuries.
A knife is far easier to use in close combat than a gun, especially if your oxygen level is running low.
Report Post »Sara123
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:04pmIf there is no jackpot attached, they are not interested.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:13pmNo they want a civil law suit to get $$$$; but the ‘stand your ground’ laws and ‘Castle Doctrine’ laws explicitly prohibit such litigation……that is why the ‘trial lawyers’ want them repealed.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 1:28amHe didn’t apologize. “I’m sorry I shot your son” would be an apology. “I am sorry for the loss of your son,” is what you always say to someone who lost a loved one, it doesn’t imply any acceptance of responsibility. When somebody comes up to you at your father’s funeral and says “I’m sorry for your loss,” it doesn’t mean that they feel guilty or are apologizing for his death.
Report Post »ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:39amKRYPTONITE, you are being ridiculous!
Trayvon was an INEXPERIENCED fighter for one. And he probably didn’t think that George had a gun on him for another point that could explain what and why of the confrontation.
Why are you trying to turn assumptions into unassailable points of iron-clad proof?
Report Post »Falconer
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 10:58am@CHET HEMPSTEAD, DUH, why should he take responsibility for defending his life? He is sorry for their loss, not for self-defense. You ask a soldier or an officer who has had to take a life and they will tell you they feel bad for the guys family, for their loss, but not for defending their self. CHET I want some of what your smoking! Good God think man, think!
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:27pmFalconer
Report Post »I’m not necessarily saying that he should apologize, I’m just saying that he didn’t, and that people like rsanchez1 who use the word apology in reference to what he said are not using it accurately.
MemphisViking
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:22pm@ Kryptonite – He didn’t say he was jumped from behind, he said he was approached from behind. They exchanged words before the altercation, indicating he was facing Martin when the fight started. Calling for help was probably instinctive. He also said Martin tried to take his gun, which meant that he wasn‘t in the way of drawing it and probably wasn’t actively beating him when he did.
@ PoorRichard – I really can’t blame them for copyrighting it. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn‘t do some of the things they’ve done, but I wouldn‘t want others profiting off of my son’s name.
@ Chet Hempstead – You beat me to it. I was going to make that exact point.
Report Post »llotus
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:01pmI saw sincerety in this guy and heard it in his voice. It is hard to lie convinceingly under that much stress. Only the truth comes easy and he wasnt hem haw`n around on any questions the prosecutor asked him. Lotus.
Report Post »Kathleen
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:38pmYes, it’s hard to fake and I felt it. I felt sorry for Zimmerman even though I feel sick at the thought of Trayvon being so young to die.
It is sad all around.
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:00pmThe liberals complain that Trayvon lie on the morgue bed for three days unclaimed. Yet he was shot in his father‘s girlfriend’s neighborhood, where he was staying. WHy did they wait three days to claim his body when they most assuredly knew he was the one who had been shot? They were clearly getting rid of evidence of them burglarizing homes in the area, and Trayvon was their new little lookout. A criminal family, now angling to trademark the name of their own boy to get a bag full of loot. Zimmerman is the victim here, and the lesson for everyone is when you shoot a thug, run like hell – the inept police will never figure out who shot him.
Report Post »Needing_To_Vent
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:03pmYou make a great point… on one hand… If he was staying at his Dad‘s Fiancee’s house and all this went down near the home. Then neighbors would have known who was involved. As soon as the word hit the street about it they would have been calling him or trying to reach him. If the GF was on the phone and talking to him as soon as she heard about the shooting one would think she would be calling TM as well… How with all these folks near by that knew him or would have known he was in the area did it take three days before an ID was made.
Did he have no ID in his pocket…
My brother died in a medical emergency on his own and they tracked me down within hours to tell me and had been trying to reach my Mom all morning by phone.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:50pm@Needing_To_Vent – I sure hope your not a Romney Support because if so than your avatar needs to be taking down. Why? Because It means DON’T TREAD ON ME, Not tread on me a little
Report Post »Needing_To_Vent
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 9:23am@PoliticansRCrooks – First will all that is out there you want to come at me with that… I know full well what my avatar means and stands for… As noted that would include you as well so move along.
I think you should read what Jefferson said he felt should be the National Symbol (hint it was not the eagle) But you should see what and what he felt was more representative…
BTW I am voting ABO’12 and Ron Paul is a no go for me solely for his Foreign Policy positions, no one in the world will take him seriously. In fact he would be treated worse then P-BO is globally.
However I would vote for Rand Paul without hesitation…
Report Post »Its Gonna Getcha
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:54pm.
Report Post »If Zimmerman is suddenly a new race category of “Caucasion Hispanic” then Obama is a “Caucasion Black”.
proliance
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:59pmThere are black Hispanics and white Hispanics. Take a look at a census form.
Report Post »jdog777
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:09pmThe big questions remains…. If being black or hispanic awards you minority status. What does being a Caucasian Hispanic afford you?? Super Minority status?? I think being a minority in a minority group really puts Zimmerman at a disadvantage. He should start a an organization NAACH or something. (tongue in cheek).
Report Post »piiguissa
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:21pmproliance, true, but the media never uses white hispanic. They did in this case to provoke.
I know hispanic is a ethinical group meaning anyone who has spanish as their native language in latin america. There are a lot of black hispanics white hispanics etc… But when people in america refers to someone as looking hispanic they mean indian/native looking. Because most people use the term hispanic to describe “brown” people. For some reason it is that way. The term has become racial and not so much ethinical. Zimmerman is mixed(mestizo) but he looks native/indian.
The media thought they had a white, conservative republican and they want it to uses this as polical move to guilt white people to vote for Obama. When they realized the guy didn‘t look white they had to make him white somehow so they wouldn’t look stupid. That’s why they went out of their way to include white in the descrption of the guy.
He is a democrat, there’s no way they can twist and call him a republican. He calls himself hispanic, so the only thing the media can do is add the white to turn this into a racial issue to call white people racist and that‘s why they don’t for Obama etc… so if you’re not racist prove it and vote for Obama etc….. Also this will be used as the anti gun agenda. The white, racist, clinging to their religion and guns….But they to make zimmerman white first
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:29pmDid you know that Nixon made up the term Hispanics
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:22pm@PROLIANCE
What is your point? Because a govt sociologist decides that white, black etc are races and Hispanic is not a race, that we should accept that? Nonsense. They change their minds every few years.
Hispanic means people from Spanish or Portuguese decent and may focus on only Latino/a vs Europeans. These people are a race and a culture. Some have intermixed with people of other European or African decent and Asian as well, but it does not remove their race or override it.
We don’t let the govt tell us who and what we are – that is their attempt to divide us.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:28pm@REPUBLICORP
No, Hispanic has been around for hundreds of years and Hispania for thousands.
Report Post »huberto
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:45pmI don’t think this case should be played out in the media. It is not a national case of a hate crime- that is only imagined. This case is all about Obama and his agenda. Obama’s doings should be scrutinized in the media. As for Zimmerman, where is La Rasa??
Report Post »huberto
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:43pmThis whole case, right or wrong, has been used towards Obama’s agenda. I don’t think the trial should be on TV. The media should drop following this case altogether. Obama’s personal rights and wrongs should be played out here- not the Fla. case. Also, where is La Raza in Zimmerman’s defense??
Report Post »neocon1
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:36pmtra von and his “family” ARE the reason we need stand your ground laws.
Report Post »Guns N Skittles
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:54pmAmen. That’s the truth!
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:32pmWhat ? I thought the Media found him guilty already. And The NBPP ? And Al and Jesse ? Why do they need a trial ? ( sarcasm deeply intended )
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:23pmIt is people like these that Obama uses for his Agenda. Our own suppose to be “president” of this country has an “us and them” situation going against the people of this country who are paying his salary. We need to file suit because he is not affording equal protection under the law. He is discriminating based on political basis, and systematically attempting to destroy our country and rebuilt it under some type european fantasy he has in his damaged brain. This man is a disgrace. Where is congress. We The People demand they get him out of there. Take Holder and the unlawful bunch who are there from our government. How can you impeach the president who is likely not to be eligible to even be there. If you cannot then arrest him and Holder and any who are in this plot. They are encouraging citizens to usurp the laws of this land and go after citizens who exercise their rights such as Zimmerman did.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:15pmGeraldo has Jewish heritage as well as does Zimmerman. Geraldo wants everyone to think he is totally Latin. He is a phoney and is never on the side of decent people. Geraldo betrayed the troops and drew a map in the sand of their positions when he was on national television. I got to watching him closer than ever after that. Geraldo is attempting to advance the Obamites.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:25pmYes and FOX has that tool on their network ..
Report Post »vanman4446
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 6:26pmGeraldo is nothing but another race baiter. Can’t stand the SOB.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:11pmI noticed the prosecutor kept referring to Zimmerman’s act as “a crime.” It is hard for me to even determine how they have probable cause to arrest him based on some phone conversation that supposedly took place by a hostile witness.
It has not been established that Zimmerman committed a crime. That is inflammatory to the court. That prosecutor need to be objected to when he asked Zimmerman questions like “during this crime” did you………..” That prosecutor is playing politics.
Report Post »SERUM
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:34pmVery insightful Blacky B!
Report Post »MemphisViking
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:27pmIf the state’s case was that strong, he would have been arrested a long time ago.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:58pmThis will be the Florida National Guard’s biggest in state workout since the Mariel Boat Lift.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:06pmThey are going to have a LOT of help .. you should see the gun shows here. Busy busy busy ..
Report Post »dawghowse
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:15pmNext week here in Fort Myers, big gun show. Lots of new things to look at!
Report Post »Tycobb35
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:57pmthis whole case is a Farce. Fox New has turned to the dark side. On greta, friday night, she let a guess say that zimmerman had quote, “executed” young martin because gun powder residue showed martin was shot 6 to 10 inches away. greta never challenged this stupid statement
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:04pmI caught that too, but if the powder burns are the result of a close shot, that may also help Zimmerman‘s story stand on it’s own.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:07pmGreta lost me when she was defending her ‘friend” the other week .. done .. haven’t watched since .. pretty much no Fox News here .. except for Hannity.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:13pmI despise what Greta does. She did the same thing in that Van der Sloot case. She sucked up to him whinning, that she was inclined to believe him. Is that being “objective” news reporting? No. This young man went on to kill another girl in Peru and is in jail down there.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:02pmI agree about Fox News and especially Gretta…..”.Once you go to the dark side forever will it dominate your destiny”
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 8:59amI haven’t wasted my time watching Fox News since the last GBTV show (cancelled my cable subscription, and replaced it with a big HD over the air antenna and a Roku). I honestly don’t miss cable a bit. I was in a hotel for a business trip this past week, and couldn’t help but think “who in their right mind would pay 50+ a month for a way to watch TV where you’re not the least bit interested in half or more of the channels and they choose what you watch and when you watch it”?
Report Post »oldchevyguy
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:56pmI have been on jury duty many times and never heard of priors in a courtroom concerning the defendent.I thought that was considered prejudicial.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:05pmNot in a bail hearing or a sententing hearing
only before a jury
Report Post »Turtleman
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:55pmThe charges brought against him is theatre! The prosecutor is in a heavily african american community. She needs their votes. If he is found not guilty – this will be worse than the Rodney King riots we saw!
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:44pmIt is the muslim influence in the black community. Zimmerman is a Hebrew name, and they know it, those who hate Jews. The are a huge anti-Christian influence in the black community to those who do not know better. They are using the blacks to promote their anit-Christian agend in any and every instance they can. Get all of them back to the dunes and any Marxist-Socialists citizens who want to go. This country was not built for those who believe in usurping the authority of our Constitution.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:52pmThese people are evil to do what they are going for any type gain.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 3:35amI’d bet my last dollar on the DOJ working behind the scenes for a desired result….
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:54pmWhile I don’t accept the fact the a person was killed, even though he may have been the bad guy ( again, who knows ), I’m glad that Zimmerman seems to have a smart attorney so the man can get a reasonably fair trial. This story should never have escaladed the way it did thanks to sgharpton, jackson, holder, etc
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:52pmthe progressive slave media..the cbc,van jones, and all the racist reverends are counting on a public lynching of this man zimmerman…and if they dont get thier way they will spark race riots ..thats been the plan all along…what better way for the manchuian candidate to suspend all elections…its been done before..germany did it and it caused 200 million people to die…just saying
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:04pmIf he does get off the evidence would have to be overwhelming to cool the jets of the angry crowd, that is for sure. If the evidence is not strong showing that it was an attack on Zimmerman and he still gets off, it will be hell to pay all over this Nation.
Report Post »But after the fires are out maybe we can have a discussion on race and the stupidity of looking at the color of another persons skin…
Pilgrimsarbour
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:28pm@Baddoggy: You’re unreasonably optimistic, I’m afraid. I believe that a race war is exactly what Jackson, Sharpton, van Jones, et. al., want. They have been working steadily toward that for many years, making sure to fan the flames of hate so that they can live in luxury at the expense of the poorest of black folks. I do believe they actually want to see the country burn. And burn it will, however this case turns out.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:36pmi hope ALL democrats are paying attention. this is not a white / black thing. Mr. Zimmerman is jewish/ hispanic. Praying that this does not get ugly, a lot if innocent blacks would be hurt. We are all Americans and should act as such
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 9:30pm@ BAddogy you are correct and demonstrate mature thinking…If you want to end racial profiling,stop identifying people by the color of their skin..The person has a name identify them by their name…End all government programs that give preferential treatment because of race .
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:52pmZimmerman is being railroaded .. local news coverage out of Tampa says little about all the threats and violence called for by the local NBPP .. and Trayvon’s lawyer and parents showed a real lack of class saying they did not accept his apology .. Zimmerman was sincere to me .. he didn’t want to kill their son .. but their son ATTACKED HIM .. there IS a lot of evidence to that. They are still being vile and making threats .. Zimmerman’s parents were not at the hearing because they fear for their lives .. Zimmerman was in court with a bulletproof vest under that suit. The Black community is showing their racism daily!
Report Post »dalek
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 1:36pmI wonder what would have been said if he hadn’t apologized at all? What would people be complaining about then? It seems you can’t win either way. You apologize and people say one bad thing and if you don’t they say another bad thing.
This is just like taking a lie detector test. If you pass the test, you just beat it. If you don’t pass the test then you lied. They got you either way.
Report Post »FloridaFarmGirl
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:48pmStill hoping Zimmerman can get a fair trial. Either way Floridians, get prepared for what’s coming.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:55pmYou got that right FARMGIRL … I am.
Report Post »Richalu
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:40pmIt would be nice to see, if/when Zimmerman is cleared, a large contingent of freedom loving Americans forming a human shield around him as he leaves the courthouse. That is what he’ll need, along with 24/7 protection, for some time afterward.
When that day comes, I’ll be happy to volunteer.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:44pmThis Obama / holder justice department is about to take another dis-creditation hit here in the eyes of history. Government sponsored witch hunts and assassinations are not new I suppose, but one cannot help but wonder where this one will take us and what the cost to this society will be. Interesting times are coming soon, very interesting times.
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:43pmI was a young girl when Pres. Kennedy was shot. To this date, questions about everything regarding the assassination but one thing stands out to me, what went on in the examining room…too many in that room. I only read alittle clip about the examiner of the dead teenager & his findings? Sure, I am a CSI fan, but simple tests are normally made & the examiner’s findings will be a big-part of this trial. After viewing the head & blood on Mr. Z…& what the examiner’s findings were regarding the hands/knuckles of the dead teenager..hummm. We know the “who is involved” but the “why” will never be truly answered (missing few minutes). One alive & one dead. THE EXAMINIER’s findings will be the key and all examiners are human & “never”? have an agenda….lets hope. Guess this trial will set another on going turmoil in today’s America. Second degree, must have (in my opinion which doesn’t mean ditt-a-lee-squat) been based on the examiner’s findings with the dead teenager. Let’s hope the examiner is a truthful & honest man.
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:38pmI‘m sick and tired of Fox news showing a picture of Trayvon as a 10 year old kid I saw it again on O’Reily if your so fair a balanced show a picture of Trayvon as he looked just before this all happened
Report Post »blazingaway
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:52pmI couldn‘t agree more and Mr’ O is increasingly NOT fair and balanced … he is becoming a first class jerk and sucking the tit of hollywood and his celebrity status. The man is becoming narcissistic
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:54pmI agree .. they should show the REAL Trayvon .. not the little kid he used to be.
http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer#comments
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:05pmI agree .. would like to read the book “Killing Lincoln” sounds like a good read but refuse to support him .. I may have to by the “Killing Kennedy” since my relative was Secret Service in Dallas at the time .. in fact in the room when Kennedy was pronounced dead .. but may see if I can get it at the library .. usually load books on my Kindle Fire .. but don’t want him to get that money.
Narcissistic describes him to a tee ..little wonder he kissed BHO’s bu tt and got that interview .. that I refused to watch. Takes one to know one.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:36pmToday’s Utah primary is UTAH”S chance to get rid of Orrin Hatch, He’s outlived his usefulness after 500 years in the Senate.
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:43pmAs a Utahn, I hope they will dump him, but Hatch has a $10 million war chest, and has been using it! It is likely he has deceived enough delegates to win renomination. He has been vilifying those of us who wish to rid ourselves of him with such statements as the following:
“They’re not Republicans”.
“They’re not conservatives.”
“They’re a bunch of radical libertarians”
“I despise them.”
“I’d like to punch them in the mouth.”
Hatch is a real class act! He just lost my vote, no matter the outcome today at the Convention, and that of many other Republicans and conservatives, who have never voted libertarian in their lives. He will likely be the ONLY Republican I won’t vote for this fall!
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 9:02am“Sen. Orrin Hatch came up just short in his bid to win renomination outright at the Utah Republican state convention. Instead he will face conservative state Sen. Dan Liljenquist in a June primary. Hatch got a sliver more than 59 percent of the vote; he needed 60 percent.”
This is fantastic. However, conservatives from across the country are going to have to come together to fund and support Dan Liljenquist for this to work.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:32pmProsecution = FAIL.
Report Post »Seagal45
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:28pmI don‘t know if he is guilty or not but I don’t see how this man can ever get a fair trial with the media circus surrounding this case. Innocent until proven guilty is how our justice system works, let it work and leave him and his family alone. It’s tragic all the way around.
Report Post »GoingBeck
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:46pmI say they motion for a change of venue and hold the trial in Wasilla, Alaska.
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