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Facebook-Banning NJ Pastor Acknowledges Threesome

NEPTUNE TOWNSHIP, N.J. (AP) — A pastor who said Facebook was a “portal to infidelity” and told married church leaders to delete their accounts or resign once testified that he had a three-way sexual relationship with his wife and a male church assistant.

The Rev. Cedric Miller confirmed the information reported Saturday by the Asbury Park Press of Neptune, which cited testimony he gave in a criminal case in 2003. The relationship had ended by that time.

Miller gained national attention when he issued the Facebook edict this week. He said it came about because much of the marital counseling he has performed over the past year and a half has concerned infidelity stemming from the social-networking website.

The 48-year-old leader of Living Word Christian Fellowship Church in Neptune Township had claimed Facebook ignites old passions, and he ordered about 50 married church officials to delete their accounts with the social networking site or resign from their leadership positions.

Miller had previously asked married congregants to share their login information with their spouses — as he does — and now plans to suggest that they give up Facebook altogether. The minister also said he would leave the site this week.

In court testimony he gave in April 2003, Miller said his wife had an extramarital affair with the church assistant. Miller said he participated in many of the sexual encounters and said the assistant’s wife was sometimes present, too.

Miller said the dalliances — which occurred in the Millers’ home — sometimes took place during Thursday Bible study meetings and Sundays after church. But the minister said the encounters “came to a crashing halt” when several women in the church accused the assistant of having sex with them.

The testimony was given in connection with a criminal case against the assistant that was eventually dismissed. The names of the church assistant and his wife were not disclosed, and Miller told the newspaper that he was concerned that revisiting the incident would “irreparably” hurt some people.

“It has come to my attention that a very painful part of my past has resurfaced,” Miller wrote in an e-mail sent Friday. Noting that his court testimony was mailed to his church leaders and other pastors several years ago, Miller said, “This was resolved at that time and accordingly we will not allow it to detract from our mission at hand to save as many marriages as we can.”

Miller said people must look at his Facebook directives in the proper context.

“My life as a minister, husband, father and friend has led me to the conviction that I must do all that I can to help as many people strengthen, preserve and repair the often times fragile cords of marriage,” Miller wrote.

A message left by The Associated Press for the church’s pastor was not immediately returned Saturday.

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Information from: Asbury Park Press, http://www.app.com

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:52pm

    sounds like he still has his facebook account!!!!he told everyone to close their accounts so they can’t see him doing what ever it is he wants too and no-one will know!!! do as i say, not what i do, sounds communist to me.i wonder how he can really be trusted to give marriage advice? i would not use his marriage advice, it probably goes some thing like this, you should stay married and call me for in home advice anytime of the day and i will be right over to lay hands on you and????????? { you decide the ending!!!

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  • jbl8199
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:48pm

    Just one more reason to hate Facebook. It’s getting ridiculous how many sites make you log in to Facebook or Twitter before you can even post something. I don’t know about you, but I’m not giving up my privacy just to post a message on the internet.

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  • ronmorgen
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:37pm

    Mr Butcher, here’s another Jefferson quote. He was a true believer in Jesus. He was opposed only to the corruption of the faith .

    To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others.”
    - Thomas Jefferson

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    • Agentuntomyself
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 9:06pm

      He won’t respond. He’s a coward who likes to bash religion and religious people and then runs away when someone presents him with an intelligent argument. It’s very scary for him.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on November 21, 2010 at 10:14am

      Ron,

      That quote from Jefferson came earlier in his life (early 1770′s i think). If you look at thoughts and ideas as a progression based on aquired knowledge, thought and experience, you should then look to the private letters of Mr. Jefferson’s later life. He was no christian.

      Agent,
      Ad hominem attacks I see. Not very christian of you. But christians usually have no problem with being hypocritical and suspending natural thought processes in exchange for promised rewards in death even if that requires attacking (and yes killing) others who are not like them. I feel very sorry for you. If you take anything from my posts I hope it is, at least, that what I seek to expose, question and mock is not individual religious people nor their right to believe in anything but; moreover, i aim to attack their ideas and beliefs as tyrannical and wrong-headed. I know most believers have a hard time seperating their fairy-tales from their concepts of self but you must understand their is a difference and an attack on one (the belief) is not an attack on the other (you).

      Hope that clears the air enough for you.

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  • N37BU6
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:32pm

    ITT: Opinions presented as facts.

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:24pm

    While I don’t necessarily agree with kicking anyone off of any website. But if it is a temptation to be there then you don’t need to be there. If anyone will cheat on their mate, they certainly don’t need Facebook to do it. It’s just another way for cheaters to cheat. No one is immune and no one can get away from it. All you can do is trust in the Lord, and pray that Satan can’t attack you. Keep your personal walk with the Lord strong.

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:22pm

    A black man named Cedric is not exactly the best choice for a wholesome person to be associated with. I almost have to laugh at how perfect the stereotype of fat black reverends named Cedric fits this scenario.

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  • Brooke Lorren
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:12pm

    No wonder he wants everyone to stop using Facebook. Going after something that can be used for evil or for good just because you can’t handle it. Perhaps stepping down as pastor would be a better choice.

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  • Madcat151
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:54pm

    Dirtbag!

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  • Zorba53
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:48pm

    So, will someone tell me… is he the pot or the kettle?

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  • Chalon Hutson
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:36pm

    Wow I guess people can’t even resist the temptation of Facebook now. What’s next, people are going to have trouble watch TBN? Klove? I can understand if you really think it will be a problem for you, but I doubt that is very many people.

    Watch my video if you want to laugh.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9gi8cESCzI&hd=1

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  • dontbotherme
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:35pm

    A fallen man caught. Follow Jesus, not humanity

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  • MommaGrizzly
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:32pm

    This is exactly why I have a hard time with organized religion. I know this is only a small percentage of religious people but the hypocrisy kills me! This is why I left religion for so long. It was actually Glenn that brought me back into religion and away from just being ‘spiritual’. But I now have my eyes open…

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    • vennoye
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 9:10pm

      If you look up “shepards” in a Bible concordance, you will find that GOD’s word does not say a lot of good things about earthly shepards. Many times, the shepards are in worse shape than the sheep, but since we are to have an individual, personal relationship with our creator, we should not depend on what the pastor does or does not do. Best thing is to read the Bible and obey what it says to do. Remember, it is easier for “organized religion” to try to make us all bricks too. And….all organized religions are man made!!

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  • V-Forge
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:23pm

    Interesting. I live in Neptune . This one was close to home. I come here so i don’t read the press.There’s a catholic priest around here that is actually gay, I don’t think he works as a pastor any more but did for several years. It seems that organized religion needs a moral house cleaning.

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    • ronmorgen
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:01pm

      When Jesus came into the world the established religion was just as bad. He constantly rebuked the Pharisees for their hypocrisy, but gathered to himself humble men and women who with honest hearts had repented of their sin. The real church of Jesus Christ should not be confused with the established church. We have wheat and tares growing together at this time, which are to be separated by the angels at the second coming. The wheat will be gathered into God’s barn, while the tares will be destroyed. God is not mocked, only those who do God’s will are his children, the others are children of the devil.

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  • Rita
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:20pm

    I‘m sure he told the church we’re all sinners, he’s not perfect, Satan made him do it, please forgive me, etc. etc. Classic case of preacher taking advantage of the sheep. I wonder how much money he’s made off of his people? Probably drives a Bentley and lives in a mansion.

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  • ronmorgen
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:15pm

    The visible church is in terrible shape just as Jesus said it would be in the last days. “Many will fall away”, he said. It is our personal responsibility to seek and to obey God regardless of what others around us are doing. God’s real children are those who do so, and they will be rewarded with eternal life. The pastor in question should have stepped down or been forced to step down to avoid bringing any more shame to his church. How in heavens name could he continue to do marriage counseling.

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  • MrButcher
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:09pm

    you christians can be rather saucy at times. all that repressed sexual energy derived from the guilt-ridden concept of “original sin” i suppose.

    very babylonian

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    • ronmorgen
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:23pm

      Why are all your comments anti-God, no matter what the topic. Your folly is very obvious Mr Butcher. “The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” Psalms 53:1

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:39pm

      well, after centuries of christian missionaries pushing their beliefs and forcing patronage on destitute, starving people in the third world in by disguising it with food and medicine I think it only fair that a non-believer should return the favor.

      so you want to play the who’s-got-the-best-quote game? cool beans.

      “I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.” Thomas Jefferson

      what a “fool” he was.

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    • Agentuntomyself
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 8:36pm

      @Ron
      He bashes religion because he is a secular humanist and can’t come to terms with the fact that this philosophy is completely irrational at its core. It makes him feel better to try to convince himself and everyone else that a belief in God is evidence of a deluded mind. Otherwise, he might have to examine his own faulty belief system.

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    • Agentuntomyself
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 8:52pm

      @Butcher,
      Your words: “well, after centuries of christian missionaries pushing their beliefs and forcing patronage on destitute, starving people in the third world in by disguising it with food and medicine I think it only fair that a non-believer should return the favor.”
      You obviously have no understanding of the teachings of Christ, so how can you be so critical of Christianity? Here are the basics: Love and serve your fellow man and teach him the gospel. Why teach him the gospel? So that he can have the knowledge to fulfill the necessary requirements(faith, charity, etc.) to return to live with God after this life and have eternal happiness. This “evil” by Christian missionaries of giving people food and medicine while preaching to them was an attempt to follow the teachings of Christ, not to coerce or trick them. It is very convenient for you to point to the various historical abuses of religion to justify your athiesm – fine. But if you wanted to really be honest about the role of religion in the world(which you don’t), you would have to look at the contemporary role of religion and the amount of suffering that is currently allleviated around the world by churches large and small. But I guess that wouldn’t fit your narrative, would it?
      Care to respond???

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    • SSBN_VET
      Posted on November 21, 2010 at 1:09am

      MRBUTCHER, there are no atheists in a foxhole. Someday you will be face to face with your own mortality and you most likely will be singing a different tune.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on November 21, 2010 at 3:04am

      No contest, Butcher: “It is true that some of them did not believe the message. But does this mean that God cannot be trusted, just because they did not have faith? No, indeed! God tells the truth, even if everyone else is a liar.” (Rom 3:3-4)

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on November 21, 2010 at 9:58am

      agent, do you really want to have an honest discussion on the effects of religion? I’d love to.

      What you fail to see is that I (and most anti-theists) aim to discredit the religion(s) not the people who believe in them. Goodness and morality have been around much longer than the Abrahamic religious structure and the very bible you selectivly quote if full of atrocities and unjust dictates from ignorant bornze age social-pimps/pseudo-philosophers. How do you reconcile the artocities of Exodus, Leviticus and John?

      I still contend that almost all mission work is done on a nefarious blackmail basis. “here, come to our service. eat, drink and heal yourselves while we tell you the good word and indoctronate on the basis of easing suffering.” These are the same tactics used by Hamas, Hizzbollah and a litany of terrorist organizatrions.

      Christianity’s main message is not love and service to your fellow man (have you even read the entire bible?). The main message of chritianity is “jesus is the only way, all other ways are evil and condemned to eternal damnation.” If you mean to suggest that by rejecting your false god that I and other non-believers; therefore, believe in hate, despotism and don’t care about anything then you, sir, are brainwashed to an alarming degree. You can not de facto argue that “jesus is love” when to do so all you’re doing is anthropamorhizing an intangible sentiment (love) onto a possibly ficticious literary character (jesus) and then claim that to reject him is to reject love. That is not how things work, Sir!

      I prefer much more to base my moral ponderances on Socrates, Voltaire, Thomas Jefferson, Orwell, literature, science and various other sources that CAN be questioned and debated.

      None of the thoughts expressed by these men has ever lead to the kind of tyranny that jesus begot.

      that’s the REAL truth.

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    • JC66
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 3:46pm

      MrB – I’m impressed with your knowledge and intelligence. But you must realize that you cannot disprove the deity of Jesus. So why do you spend so much time battling Christians on this website? Other than your own personal satisfaction of getting the last word, why would you argue with such passion and effort? What could you possibly have to offer a Christian? Renouncing one’s faith and living a brief, meaningless, purposeless and ultimately sad life? Perhaps you might consider these questions and wonder if you might be trying to fill a void that’s within you. Otherwise, might I suggest spending less time on this site and more time maximizing your pleasure during what precious little time you have left in existence.

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  • afroggy
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:06pm

    Has anyone stopped to think that this pastor is crazy? Think about it. There’s a significant percentage of the population that is addled. He’s been acting nuts for a while. Just ’cause he’s a minister, doesn‘t mean he’s immune to mental illness.

    I‘ll wager there’s more than a few bats in his belfry!

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    • Citizen
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:36pm

      stop and think also that he might not bea a real pastor.

      just cause you go to some man made seminary and get man to announce you are a pastor doesnt mean God made you a pastor.

      tons of so called priests and pastors out there are not sent by God but sent by vain traditions they follow.

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  • Danglinbags
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 5:02pm

    Threesome with 2 dudes? Sounds like there might be more to this dude… blech!

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  • shane2813
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 4:59pm

    Another Leftist Nut bites the dust!

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  • Midwest Belle
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 4:49pm

    What ever happened to LEADING your flock instead of pushing them? I would have thought that a minister who’s having (or admitted to) an affair would have been “defrocked”. What kind of example is a sinning minister to his flock? In fact what ever happened to marital fidelity regardless what your vocation is?

    The Morals of most people are in the toilet mainly because they don’t truly allow God in their lives. They pretend but don’t DO.

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  • hikinggussie
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 4:49pm

    he needed to just mind his own business and let his congregation mind theirs, too. listen to God rather than pastors.

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  • sean_m.
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 4:45pm

    Hypocrite = this guy right here.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on November 21, 2010 at 9:18am

      He is not alone, I find ALL RELIGION based on Hypocrisy it is the only way
      they can stay in Power, a True religion would have no ties or judgments
      because everything would be between you and your god as it was always meant to be.
      But then who would pay them ?
      http://www.truthorfables.com/Tithing.htm

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    • MrsHess
      Posted on November 21, 2010 at 12:43pm

      For almost everyone in power- whether a pol, a billionaire, a minister, there seem to be two standards- one for them and the strict rules for “the regular folk”.

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  • grandmaof5
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 4:41pm

    Pardon me, Facebook.

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  • grandmaof5
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 4:40pm

    Sounds like he would be better off teaching the 10 Commandments and actually following them. How ’bout “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife” comes to mind. If he was doing his job then he wouldn‘t have to worry about Twitter but I suspect he didn’t want anyone to find out about his past on Twitter – oops.

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  • awtj.webs.com
    Posted on November 20, 2010 at 4:34pm

    There is a really, really, really good reason why God drew up a divine order to things…It would behoove one to seek out God’s divine order…
    One the other hand, too many people judge Christ according to a person’s actions…

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    • JGP
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 4:51pm

      “came to a crashing halt” when several women in the church accused the assistant of having sex with them.

      Didn’t stop because it might have been wrong?

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:04pm

      Let the totality of a mans actions, for good and bad, be what shows him for his real and true self. For as Jesus said “By their fruits you shall know them.” The character itself shows in our ideals, ways of belief and labor, and in what we are challenged by.

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    • G.W. Dobbs
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 6:58pm

      Many “Ministers” are SATAN’S CHOZEN and are “discipling” unwary church members to HELL.
      HE, Yah, is cleaning out HIS churches and separating HIS CHILDREN now. If SIN is present, the Holy Spirit is NOT.

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    • ME
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 10:47pm

      well, well it would seem he had no real positive intent and was only worried about his own butt (yes pun intended) He was not worried about tithers when he was going down in flames. Churches are so disappointing to me being a PK I have seen way to much of the as I have called it “suffering for Jesus” while flying in privet jets and making millions. Suffer on and I would not envy you now or when your judgment comes.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on November 20, 2010 at 11:46pm

      Let whoever is without sin cast the first stone. And then, ‘no man, without his own consent, can be overcome by evil.’ No for me to judge.

       
    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on November 21, 2010 at 9:11am

      too bad God is not able to stop the Satanic Religions
      http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br_4.html
      http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/03/24/internal-church-documents-show-catholic-church-including-pope-benedict-let-priest-molest-as-many-as-200-boys/

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