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FACT CHECK: New Romney Ad Claims Obama Has Waged a ‘War on Religion’ — Is this Accurate? (Poll)

Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign has a new ad out targeting President Obama and his handling of matters of faith and religion. The 30-second spot, called “Be Not Afraid,” begins with a question, “Who shares your values?” Then, it goes on to say that “Obama used his health care plan to declare war on religion.”

“The Romney commercial includes some of the candidate’s recent speech in Warsaw, reflecting on Pope John Paul II’s words — ‘be not afraid’ — during a 1979 trip to Poland that helped lead to the end of communist rule,” the USA Today explains.

Mitt Romney Releases Ad Claiming Obama Launched War on Religion

In addition to sharing images of Polish politician and human rights activist Lech Walesa and Pope John Paul II, the ad also declares that the regulations put in place by the president have forced “religious institutions to go against their faith.” Naturally, it frames Romney as standing against these restrictive policies.

“When religious freedom is threatened, who do you want to stand with?,” the ad concludes.

Watch it, below:

Considering the other advertisements that have created debate in the 2012 election cycle (Obama’s “Romney killed my wife” ad drama and the anti-Rep. Allen West spot featuring him beating women are just two examples), it’s important to explore the merits of the new ad.

The spot, which was sponsored jointly by the Romney campaign and the Republican National Committee, sticks to a very basic script in making its assertion: That President Obama has forced faith groups into a corner on the issue of contraception.

Interestingly, the ad never mentions birth control — the very issue that is at the center of Catholic and other faith groups‘ opposition to the administration’s policies. Instead, it focuses upon religious liberty, an issue that conservatives tried to drive home during the initial debate about the issue earlier this year.

Mitt Romney Releases Ad Claiming Obama Launched War on Religion

AP

In terms of its truthfulness, the ad seems to be on par, focusing upon the notion that institutions (not churches, seeing as houses of worship are exempt), were forced “go against their faith.” Taking into account the Catholic Church’s opposition to birth control, mandating that organizations associated with the religious system provide contraception would, indeed, make this a reality.

Critics, though, could argue that the proposed regulation — which is still under consideration for church institutions — hasn’t actually caused religious organizations to violate conscience. After all, it hasn’t gone into effect yet. On these grounds, the ad does seem to lead people to believe that violations have already taken place.

What do you think about the ad? Is it accurate? Take the poll, below:


Comments (109)

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  • woodyee
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:22pm

    Of course Obammy has attacked religion – since the remark he made in a plea against those of us who “cling to their guns and Bibles”!

    But he wasn’t alone. Along with the help from radical church groups and leaders, he’s had a lot of help from a relatively silent Vatican. In the kind of war we’re in today, silence can be of great aid to our domestic enemies.

    FEAR THEM NOT, BUT CHALLENGE THEM, ESPECIALLY THEIR LEADERS!!!! They CAN NOT STAND TO TRUTH!

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    • woodyb
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:32pm

      I didn’t see his usual halo in these pictures. Was it taken away from him? Is that why he started his war on religion, because we no longer recognize him as the anointed one?????????

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  • mcsledge
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:08pm

    Yes, Obama is not a Christian. Then again, many self-proclaimed Christians are nothing more than wolves in sheeps clothing. A Christian follows the doctrines of Christ’s Gospel. Otherwise, event Lucifer would qualify as a Christian.

    The only reason he attended a questionable church was to give the appearance that he was Christian in the 2008 election. Had he been seen as an Atheist or Muslim, he never would have been elected. Now, people don’t seem to care.

    Since his election, his policies and support have attacked Christianity on all fronts. He is a form of anti-Christ.

    With his new legislation (supported by the Supreme Court), he can force religions into acting against their own doctrines. Such an act is satanic at least and treasonous at best.

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    • Diogenes41
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:13pm

      Rev Wright, in Maraniss’ book, when questioned whether or not Obama converted to Christianity, replied:
      I don’t know.

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    • KURT1010
      Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:49am

      And here is the site showing Obama / Anti Christ

      http://o.bamapost.com/

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:59am

      Obamas true religion is socialist government. Since he is the head of our socialist government, he sees himself as GOD.

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    • Quester55
      Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:23am

      What ever happens, Don’t loose your Faith. Jesus never said the Last days would be easy on us, But to work even harder, To bring in the Harvest. Just remember, Your own Children may turn on you, Your own Spouse may turn on you, But your Never alone. In the end, always remember, When your surrounded
      by the Enemy’s camp, Your Safe, Because ” Greater is he that is in you, Than he that is in the world.

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  • zoro51
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:06pm

    yes this IS obama tax n speech said america IS no longer a christian nation.. he prefers ISLAM to christianity.. hes attacked all our freedoms n RAPED the usa.. IMPEACH THIS BASTARD N RERMOVE HIM if not now in november… THE LEFT WILL HOWL N WHAIL since thier leader will be GONE…. i dont like romney but romneys AMERICAN BORN n doesnt have to seal his records…. romneys no COMMUNIST would ahve rather had another..to choose but slim pickins ill go woiht the truer AMERICAN not the soros puppet EVITA OBAMA TAX N SPEECH MARXIST

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  • Skrewedretiree
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:03pm

    Will all of you stating and stating again “Only Congress has the right to declare War” give me a break?

    The US Congress has not “declared War” since World War II. But we have obviously gone to war several times since then, and are still at war now. I think that point has been proven moot, wouldn’t you agree? Congress has not followed the Constitution since “who knows when”!

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:24pm

      or perhaps they were not proper wars?

      Just because the government does something, does not make it right. Yours is the attitude of a moderate.

      Someone who is constitutional would say that the Department of Education, medicaid/medicare, social security, obamacare, bailouts are contrary to the constituton – despite the government doing them for a long time….I thought republicans were against these things?

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  • DoomsdayProphet
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:30pm

    I approve the message neither care. Mitt Romney has to be one of the dumbest people in the race…Him…Big f’n O and Ron Paul. While Ron Paul is not the best on foreign policy. His domestic policy is big. He cannot change the foreign policy lickity split. We give him 4 years to right the American economy. Then we elect someone good on foreign policy. That way his plans there cannot be fully implemented.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:35pm

      We know that Congress can declare war at any time. Therefore, it is the Congress who should be dictating our foreign policy. Ron Paul has said if Congress declares war, he would execute it to the fullest extent – even if it is a war he disagrees with

      What is not to like?

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    • JakeEllis
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:31pm

      Always a Paulbot shows up. Good try. Attempting to disguise your post as a person paying attention to fact. Then you throw in Paul, the Ross Perot of the last 3 elections. Hey, Paul mesmerized numbskulls, he is not running, and most of all he is UNELECTABLE!

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:50pm

      Right…..’Get back in line you traitor!!’

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  • Diane TX
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:17pm

    Actually, that part of Øbama Care that mandates that healthcare insurance plans provide FREE contraception and abortive medications went into effect on August 1, 2012.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/01/contraceptive-mandate-begins-amid-calls-to-overturn-concerns-about-religious/

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  • alrunner58
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:08pm

    I liked that ad. It wasn’t an attack. Straight to the point. something I can take at face value.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:13pm

      Thats what we need – another election about “values” instead of ideas or solutions…..

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:21pm

      Clearly, Hussein is not waging war against Islam. They are exempted from Obamacare. It is Christians who are being persecuted by this admin, e.g., in partnership with public school districts, Planned Parenthood has already set up School-Based Health Clinics (SBHC) in CA, so girls can get birth control/an abortion and/or be screened for STDs behind parents‘ back and on taxpayers’ dime. http://www.lifenews.com/2012/06/05/planned-parenthood-runs-public-school-based-clinic-in-los-angeles/

      The fact that Obamacare conveniently goes into full swing post-election is merely political timing. It is already LAW and the mandate has been declared constitutional, so nobody is misleading anyone. The Commie House is just biding its time.

      FYI,
      There is a covert “abortion premium” in Obamacare:

      => “…the ACA [Affordable Care Act] includes two “secrecy clauses” in the provision. First, insurance plans that include abortion coverage may only disclose the coverage in the plan’s summary of benefits and coverage, at the time of enrollment. Second, neither Exchanges nor insurance plans may disclose the separate, monthly cost of the ‘abortion premium’ that exclusively pays for abortions.”

      Please read more here (scroll down to midpage): AUL Legal Team: Initial Analysis of Supreme Court Ruling in Healthcare
      http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/2233/2/

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:57pm

      @ Soy…take care of the values the rest of our woes will take clear up

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:28pm

      Values & ideals are interrelated.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:27pm

      values are things like religion, abortion, being the worlds policeman….Think of it as the Bush election years

      Ideas/solutions are ways to get the federal government out of our business and the economy….Think of it like a….Well, we havent really ever had one. Think of it as a Herman Cain presidency

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  • JACKTHETOAD
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:07pm

    I re-registered at my old Parish just for you, ‘buddy’. My Religion, right or wrong, comes first…. heh,heh heh.. GO JESUS!.

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    • txdave22
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:13pm

      If anything harming religion, it’s the adulterous pub US senators and the lap dance conventioneers headed to tampa:—————–will u b leading the boys down to the lap dances? pubs seem to love them—————————Wonder what pubs are doing when they’re not ranting about the sinful gays and women who (UNDER 40 YEARS OF SUPREME COURT AFFIRMATION AND REAFFIRMATION) are free to choose whether or not they should carry a pregnancy to term? This is it, folks.
      Remember GOP chose Tampa, lap dance capital of the US, for their convention.
      ————————Hypocritical pubs talk the talk and walk the walk right into the strip joints. Good for them. America is a free country except for when pubs want to tell you how to live.
      WHAT HYPOCRITES THEY BE.

      Angelina Spencer, the executive director of the Association of Club Executives, which serves as a trade association for strip clubs, said an informal survey of convention business in New York and Denver had determined that Republicans dropped more money at clubs, by far.

      “Hands down, it was Republicans,” she said. “The average was $150 for Republicans and $50 for Democrats.”

      As further evidence of the clubs’ nonpartisan appeal, Don Kleinhans, the owner of the 2001 Odyssey, said when the Promise Keepers, a male evangelical group, came to town years ago, business was rollicking.

      “We had phenomenal numbers all weekend, and they walked in wearing badges and name tags and weren’t shy at all,

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    • txdave22
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:13pm

      VITTER FOR VEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!Are you and rubio and other senators FOR OR AGAINST ADULTERY AND BREAKING THE COMMANDMENTS? You never say a thing about vitter, admitted adulterer, whoremonger. Can we assume adultery so ordinary among pub politicians nothing needs to be said? Sen Ensign’s resignation after aduterous affair last year would seem to suggest adultery rife in the GOP. What do you say?What does romney say, rubio, ryan? Nothing. So, if you don’t speak against gay marriage, you must be for it. If you don’t speak against ADULTERY, WHOREMONGERING, WHICH VITTER ADMITTED, you must be for it. That is not a stretch, logical.
      —————————-

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:01pm

    The heart of the problem is that the federal government will be opposed to anything that gives people independence….. Religion, marriage, charity, property, your own body, etc

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  • yazoo
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:00pm

    Something in Obamas’ behavior kept reminding me of someone somewhere but it remained vague until, until I happened to run across a clip from the Amos and Andy television show. There he was, not Amos or Andy mind you, instead it was Kingfish. If you’ve had the pleasure of seeing the show; the charicter Kingfish was a manipulating, coniving, lying, worthless cheat who usually managed to fool Andy Brown over and over and over with some new wrinkle designed to seperate Andy from his money. “Yeah Andy, looks like you the Stuckee”.

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  • John 3:16
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:38pm

    WOW!!! I just saw the results of this poll. 26 people voted (no way the Ad is a lie). This is kinda cool now we know about how many liars = Trolls are on this site posting and that would be less than half of 26 since each little basement troll lied, oops! voted at least twice.

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    • Nahash
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:49pm

      there are “trolls”, and then, there are dumb people

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:54pm

      The site doesn’t count votes twice (raises a dubious eyebrow).

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:57pm

      its false because only the United States Congress has the authority to delcare war

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    • Nahash
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:57pm

      exactly

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    • Nahash
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:03pm

      I meant “exactly LOCKED”

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:08pm

      soybomb315_II

      No soybomb315_II we at war as defined by #3.

      War
      1. a conflict carried on by force of arms, as between nations or between parties within a nation; warfare, as by land, sea, or air.
      2. a state or period of armed hostility or active military operations: The two nations were at war with each other.
      3. a contest carried on by force of arms, as in a series of battles or campaigns: the War of 1812.
      4.active hostility or contention; conflict; contest: a war of words.
      5. aggressive business conflict, as through severe price cutting in the same industry or any other means of undermining competitors: a fare war among airlines; a trade war between nations.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:16pm

      @Walkabout

      I dont care about Webster’s definition of war. When it comes to the federal government, you obviously dont know the constitutional definition of war.

      Get familiar with the Constitution – its the only way you can know real statesmen from fake ones

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:28pm

      soybomb315_II

      The Romney ad using the word war is in the same manner as the War on Christmas etc. & you knew it was meant that way. It did not mean as a formal declaration of war between countries. No country has done that since 1941. Now they just have resolutions.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:12pm

      @WALKABOUT
      LOL, you’re right, but don’t try to reason with RP sheeple. SOY is a broken record, stuck on RP talking points, no matter the topic.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:53pm

      @walkabout
      So Romney thinks Obama is using guns to make war on religion???

      Just messing with you. i i know how the government likes to make war on ‘things’ (poverty, drugs, religion). Glad you were able to see my point

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  • Nevermind
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:29pm

    randy
    HEy SIMPLETON!
    How bout your Man Crush Obama coughs up his college records, his social security info, and his birth certificate?

    When it does, let us know, and we’ll let you back into this discussion………

    ***************************

    College records- Already submitted to the BAR association to get his law license. No precident of Presidents or nominee’s releaseing college transcripts. Fail

    Social Security ## – Already debunked the birther crap about this a million times. You know i was born in California and have a differnt SSN prefix for a differnt state as well? Oooh i must be a Kenyan…again Fail

    Birth Certificate- Short and long form released as well as an announcement in the papaer at the time of his birht submitted by the hospital. Again Fail

    I have already seen 10 years of President Obama’s tax returns. I want to see the same form Mitt as well as his BC now. Once he can produce at a minimum what Obama has then he can ask for more. Until then its deflection

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:37pm

      I’M hoping Romney sends these two a BILL for their
      lavish lifestyle for the past 4 years.. Obama took
      Air Force One to Hollywood, yet again.. for his 150th
      Fundraiser since he has been in office.. Wednesday he
      attended a gay rights event at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel
      with Ellen DeGeneres and a $25,000-per-head dinner with
      “Glee” creator Ryan Murphy, seems Obama EVOLVED in
      the nick of time.. he’s milking these Hollyweirds for all he can..
      Seems like these people could DONATE to a much better
      cause, than to this loser…. The gay community, Obama’s
      intended audience during much of his California visit, has been
      pouring money into the president’s campaign at a steady clip
      since he publicly endorsed same-sex marriage last month……….

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  • Locked
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:23pm

    “First they came for the communists,
    and I didn‘t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn‘t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn‘t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.”

    … see, the odd thing is, when the Nazis went and took people… those people didn’t come back. They were executed in the streets, and later in prison camps. There are legitimate wars on religious freedom (like in China, or Egypt, or East Timor) around the world. Not for a second do I think someone from those countries would look at the US and say “Yeah, you guys are totally having religious war right now too!”

    No, I think Obama is not at war with religion. I think he’s a terrible POTUS who has significantly slowed the economy and ignored the Constitution, a man who has polarized the country and stalled our recovery. Yet not once has my right to private worship or my personal beliefs been infringed. Nor have the rights of anyone I know. Nor the rights of any religious place of worship.

    It’s the normal hysterical rhetoric we always get around election time. I don‘t expect Romney’s ads to be any more factual than Obama’s, as they’re pretty much two sides of the same corrupt coin.

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    • historyguy48
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:51pm

      Just wait until his second term begins.

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    • Polarized America
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:07pm

      Romney took a hit with the latest ads..they say the pols show Obama 52% to Mitts 45%
      This war on Religion i feel is a loser, it all boils down to contraception, and people are going to look at it as petty no matter how hard they try to make it sound like a Religious Freedom issue.

      That phony “Romney killed my wife ad”, yeah its a lie but too many people in the manufacturing trade can relate to it…. I know i could

      About Romney’s taxes, again more people, i think are saying … hummmmm sure sounds like hes hiding something. and back during the GOP debates ( remember it was anybody but Mitt) Mitt was warned about this, they even called it Vulture Capitalist .. and even S. Palin said that it would be better to deal with his Tax issues then instead of now … and O Look surprise surprise.

      Things are gonna get even more nasty by the time Nov. rolls around

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    • ALL4FREEDOM
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:32pm

      Sadly, you are mistaken. There has been a war on religion for quite some time. Only now, as the Progressives see the finish line (and if they win the race we’re finished as a free nation), they have stepped up the pressure. Each tiny attack on religious expression takes them one step closer because we’re too well-mannered to fight back. All religious expression is protected by the first amendment, whether conducted in public or in private, on public or private land. A religious person or group has exactly the same access and right to public space as does an atheistic person or group. Equal protection under the law, guaranteed by the Constitution. The moment we accept the argument that religious expression in public must be curtailed because someone objects to the content, we’ve started down the slippery slope to tyranny. PC is BS. If, for instance, a religious group wants a cruciform flowerbed in a public park, maintained at their expense, they may have it, and if the atheists object, they have an equal right NOT to put in a flowerbed. Same holds true for prayer in public. Should one not agree with the material being presented, one is free to ignore it with no penalty incurred (in this life, anyway) and think about sex or whatever else makes them happy. Good manners dictate that they not make a fuss about it. Has anyone else noticed that manners have gone out the window with morals over the past couple of decades?

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  • Oh, God!
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:22pm

    I thought the contraception mandate went into effect Aug 1?

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:20pm

    This is just as silly as the democrats saying the Republicans are “waging a war on women”

    Wake up and realize both of these parties are pathetic

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:00pm

      Forcing a Catholic university to have birth control as part of health coverage? That is not going against religion.

      We have been talking about Barcelona vacationing Sandra Fluke since about January. She is just one of the up & coming leaders of the Democrat effort to undermine the churches if they are not liberal churches.

      Which Reminds me Sandra Fluke can spend $785 (or more) for a round trip ticket form the U.S. to Barcelona, but she can’t afford the price of a condom.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:07pm

      @walk

      The government should have no say on birth control(get out of health care). There wouldnt be a attack on religion using birth control. If religious groups(hospitals) quit taking funds from the government, they they can do as they please.

      Freedom isnt always the fun or easy choice, but its the best choice.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:30pm

      If the farmers or businesses all around you are taking government money & the government takes you money thru taxes, you almost have to take the money to survive until you can vote to have no one get money & shrink government.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:55pm

      @Walkabout
      Brilliant!!! That is what Ron Paul has always said about his congressional district and those earmarks. Bravo son! Now you just need to help the others see your point and be consistent across the board. There is nothing wrong with trying to get money that was already stolen from you

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    • RGFROMTEXAS
      Posted on August 10, 2012 at 1:23am

      War On Religion ???

      Hey Mitt you forgot to memtion his war on puppies, baseball, ice cream,
      bubble baths and long walks in the park.

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:17pm

    If Obama wanted to widen his base (a little, anyway), he’s dump Biden and name Ron Paul as his 2012 Running Mate. I’m all for it!

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:27pm

      Please post the similar views Obama has to Paul. Back your statement up.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:48pm

      @Mutiny

      “Please post the similar views Obama has to Paul. Back your statement up.”

      I think Model’s point was that taking on Ron Paul would likely make quite a very libertarians who would vote for a third party (or grudgingly for Romney) change to the Democratic side.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:55pm

      you are an idiot. Hey, i would vote for Ron Paul as vp over Mitt Romney ANYDAY

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:12pm

      Regional Equity Movement = Obama Game plan

      Stimulus funds are by regions. if you want to play cities/suburbs have to give up the independence.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:38pm

      @locked

      No he is ignorant to Ron Paul’s policies. He lets Bill Oreilly do his thinking for him. So what you are saying you think Model is for is libertarians will go vote Democrat?

      I dont think Libertarians want a candidate who:

      Starts wars without a declaration.
      Supports the Patriot Act.
      Supports the NDAA.
      Supports bloated overspending.
      Doesnt want to phase out and end the FED.
      Wants government controlling the health care system.
      Wants amnesty.
      Supports gun control.
      Doesnt want to end the TSA.

      Problem for us is Romney and Obama both want those things.

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:10pm

    If you elect a president willing to protect the Constitution, religions are safe. Neither Romney nor Obama protect the Constitution.

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:20pm

      When our rights don‘t come from a higher authority then we’re easier to control.

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    • MODEL82A1
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:22pm

      MUTINY, does the Frustration ever seem like its becoming too much for you to bear? Is there any way we can help to that end?

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:31pm

      @model

      I am not frustrated. I am amazed their are so few people left in this country who cherish their freedom. You can attack me all you like, but you never seem to be able to attack my views with facts.

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  • Individualism
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:09pm

    I don’t think their is a war on religion waged specifically by the president maybe by other areas of goverment. My neighbors have not had to change anything about their religious routine but i did hear in Arizona about folks getting arrested for religious worship in their home.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:16pm

      “i did hear in Arizona about folks getting arrested for religious worship in their home.”

      Actually, they built a structurally unsound church on their land while lying about it. Kinda hard to lie when you specifically paint the word “church” on the sign outside. They had several -years- from the county to appeal the ruling, or, y’know, check the regulations, but they didn’t.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:18pm

      Individualism, that is 100% false. No one was arrested for worshiping in their home. The man in question built a church on his property, hosting dozens of people a week, that was not up to code. He was arrested because, despite the city trying to work with him on the matter (this played out over several years), he refused to bring the building up the code.

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    • DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:01pm

      BRUCE P.
      The First Amendment states: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof….
      What part of “free exercise” do you and the city not understand?
      At what point does a man’s Bible study group become a church? Who’s qualified to make that decision? Is there a legal definition of church?

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:24am

      @Democrats

      “At what point does a man’s Bible study group become a church?”

      Putting a sign up that calls their building a church is probably a good point to start saying, “Hey, maybe they lied about this being a church…”

      “Who’s qualified to make that decision?”

      The government, or more accurately, their officials. They make the laws, after all.

      “Is there a legal definition of church?”

      Of course.
      “To define churches and other religious entities, some of the IRS guidelines consider whether or not an institution has:
      a distinct legal existence and religious history,
      a recognized creed and form of worship,
      established places of worship
      a regular congregation and regular religious services, and
      an organization of ordained ministers.”

      They need to zoned properly, however. Converting your house into a church (without filing as a church, without adhering to zoning laws, without regard to your neighbors’ property rights, without adhering to building codes) is pretty dumb. Especially when you are warned several times about the proper procedure, over the course of several years, and still ignore it.

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  • RLTW
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:06pm

    Dictators like Obama have always attempted to manipulate and or cut the feet out from under religion, it’s no secret state progressivism want to control/replace the church.
    State run religion is what they want, so they can preach there creed and control the masses.

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  • Gita
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:01pm

    As a catholic I am angry at this administration for attacking my church. As an American I am determined to see Obama lose this election. When any government feels empowered enough to attack any group of people as Obama has done, we know, based on history, where a regime is headed.

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:19pm

      I’m angry about losing my right to peacefully assemble/protest, my right to hunt squirrels with automatic weapons, my right to privacy from government, my right to private property, my right to a jury by my peers, and my right to a speedy trial too.

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    • WLBCO
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:20pm

      Today the Catholics, tomorrow the Jews, Baptists, etc. This band of Chicago crooks must be sent packing in November.

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  • randy
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:00pm

    Look! We have 6 huffpo members here today?

    Report Post » randy  
    • Wango
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:09pm

      Somebody has to represent the functioning brains among us.

      Report Post » Wango  
    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:12pm

      The Blaze keeps reposting HuffPo articles.

      Must be a legitimate news source.

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:12pm

      @WANGO…. So says **** for brains….

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    • Wango
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:24pm

      RIGHTUNITE . . . See?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:47pm

      LOL…yes WANGO/ENCINOM/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/HORSEDANCE…functioning brains..like you creating all those screennames for yourself and creating imaginary histories for them like you did on the “Romney Spokesperson” board?
      You know? Where you told us about that imaginary incident while you were an imaginary desk clerk (in 1986) at an imaginary hotel and you were upset by the imaginary words of Mitt Romney and his imaginary “Bain Boys’, who you were traumatized by because they didnt’ rain gifts and affection down on the lowly imaginary desk clerk? As a result today you’ve become a twisted, bitter lefty troll with a penchant for creating mulitple screennames on blog boards. Is this the behaviour of a “functioning brain” to you sport? Really?

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    • Wango
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:19pm

      AVENGECAKE . . . Yes, like you I feel your energy waning, your desperation increasing, your British aplomb, a myth to begin with, leaving you naked before the world, like Randy Travis at a north Texas convenience store. Yes, of course my story was imaginary. You can’t abide the idea of someone having an interesting life. What would you tell yourself about your own vapid existence, full as it is with trips to the pawn shop to search out bargain VHS tapes. Dare to dream, oh vengeful baker. One day you too might have an actual experience that enlightens you beyond the scrotum squeezing confines of your digital day. But you must have courage, little one. Perhaps start easy, something with purpose where you aren’t expected to actually interact on a personal level. I suggest a visit to the dentist.

      Report Post » Wango  
  • JohnGalt
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:00pm

    War on Religion, War on business, War on common sense, War on the family, You name it, if it’s a typical American belief he pretty much went to war on it.

    they guy goes to war with anything except our enemies.

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  • SREGN
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:56pm

    O’s First Commendment: Obama is your god, he brought you out of the land of prospertity into this new land of Fairness, and you shall have no other gods before him.

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  • www.TopTheNews.com
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:54pm

    I’m more worried about the assault on Constitutional civil liberties than anything…

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  • SimpleTruths
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:52pm

    Another distraction from Mr. Paynotaxes

    Report Post » SimpleTruths  
    • Landon410
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:57pm

      has barry the half white ever released his college transcripts?

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    • randy
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:03pm

      HEy SIMPLETON!
      How bout your Man Crush Obama coughs up his college records, his social security info, and his birth certificate?

      When it does, let us know, and we’ll let you back into this discussion………

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:11pm

      When Obummer releases his College transcripts, and everything else he spent millions locking up, I’m sure Romney will release his 10 years tax forms…. I‘m guessing Romney won’t have to worry about that because Obama would never get re-elected if he released his papers.

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    • Smokey_Bojangles
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:13pm

      Harry has a maximum worth of $6,307,999.00.
      How do you make that much money in 43 years of working for the Government?
      Child Prostitution ring? Embezzlement? Selling Drugs? Taking Bribes from Mexican Drug Cartels?
      Hmmm.

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    • thetruthlives
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:16pm

      paynotaxes. you obviously have NO idea what you are talking about.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:51pm

      It hurts doesn’t it SIMPLETON? No really the fact that Obama has spent over $100 million on attack ads in battle ground states and he can’t seem to get any results from it. So you keep repeating “where‘s Romney’s tax returns”…hoping beyond hope that he plays your game…while Obama squanders his money (hey..what’s new there right? He squanders our money like there’s no tomorrow…all $6 trillion and counting) and Romney has outraised him for the third month in a row. It hurts SIMPLETON doesn’t it bright boy?

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