‘Fascists Go Home!’: Tea Partier Injured in Assault by ‘Teamster’ at Sacramento Protest
- Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:17am by
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The MoveOn.org “American Dream” rally in Sacramento produced one of the day’s more volatile moments. A man wearing a Teamsters Local 439 jacket launched major body-check action on a Tea Party member.
The opposing rallies were divided by 10th Street, west of the State Capitol. All was peaceful, until members supporting unions crossed the street.
An amateur videographer caught a shoving match on tape. The video showed a face to face argument right before Richard Andazola, 28, of Stockton, shoved a tea party activist.
“He bum rushed across the street, came right at us, swung his bullhorn at me, hit me in the hand and then put his hand around my throat and started choking me,” Rodney Stanhope of Placerville said.
The video doesn’t show the choking incident, but clearly shows the shoving. Because of it, Sacramento Police officers cited Andazola for battery.
Andazola tells a different story though.
“He was spitting on me, he’s bigger than me, and I told him to get off of me,” Andazola said. “I was backing up and he was staying on me ’til the point that he spit in my mouth.”
Here is the moment in question:
And here is KXTV-TV’s full report:
The KXTV-TV slideshow of the event can be viewed here.
The Sacramento Bee slideshow can be seen here.
The KOVR-TV slideshow can be seen here.
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RISE AND RISE AGAIN
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:39amAnd they wonder why state goverments and the people want to end the unions power.
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:49amPart of the reason that people want to END union power is because it reduces the power of workers.
I don’t think they should be ENDED.
Just drastically reduced.
Such as government, it doesn’t need ending, but drastic reduction.
In regards to the IRS and Federal Reserve, however, they need ENDING.
END the FED and the IRS.
Report Post »Extremepatriot
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:42amUnions are the biggest contributers to the Dems. If all unions are ended then the Dems biggest contributers are gone and we can destroy Democrat power in the government probably for 20 years until they can talk enough busineses to give them enough dollars to stand up to the Republicans. I think one party Republican rule for 20 years will be enough to get America back on the right path again.
Report Post »Smitty1969
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:51amThese people don’t even know!
What is nazi short for?
It’s a contraction consisting of the first two syllables of the German word for National Socialist (Nationalsozialist). (It is not an acronym, and the recent custom of spelling the word in capitals is incorrect.)
It means a member or adherent of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei – often abbreviated NSDAP). In English Nazi is also used as an adjective.
Note that in German the word is a noun and is generally applied only to people.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_nazi_short_for#ixzz1FAPx52hM
Report Post »Smitty1969
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:57amThe also say “Hitler hated the Union’s” again they are dumb as a horse. Hitler gained power through the unions, got what he needed from them then killed off their leadership because they were too much trouble (useful idiots).
Report Post »Smitty1969
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:43pmHmmm?? working on your post to see if I am wrong.
Report Post »theVirginian
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:00pmSorry, first post was wrong thread…
Actually Llyod, Smitty is right about him using them to get into power. It wasn’t until after that he dropped them -
“Under Röhm, the SA also often took the side of workers in strikes and other labour disputes, attacking strikebreakers and supporting picket lines. SA intimidation contributed to the rise of the Nazis, breaking down the electoral activity of the left-wing parties. However, the SA’s reputation for street violence and heavy drinking was a hindrance.”
“Röhm and the SA regarded themselves as the vanguard of the “National Socialist revolution.” After Hitler’s takeover, they expected radical changes in Germany, with power and rewards for them. However, Hitler’s use of the SA as storm troopers was a political weapon he no longer needed.
Along with Joseph Goebbels, Gottfried Feder and Walther Darré, Röhm was a prominent member of the party’s “socialist” faction. This group took the words “Sozialistische” and “Arbeiter” (“worker”) in the party’s name literally. They largely rejected capitalism (which they associated with Jews) and pushed for nationalisation of major industrial firms, expanded worker control, confiscation and redistribution of the estates of the old aristocracy and social equality. Röhm spoke of a “second revolution” against “reactionaries” (the National Socialist label for old-line conservatives), as the National Socialists had previously dealt with the Communists and Socialists.
All this was threatening to the business community, which had supported Hitler’s rise to power. So Hitler swiftly reassured businessmen that there would be no “second revolution.“ Many ”storm troopers” were of working-class origins and had expected a socialist programme. In fact, it was often said at the time that members of the SA were like a beefsteak — “brown on the outside and red on the inside”. They were now disappointed by the new regime’s lack of socialist direction and also failure to provide the lavish patronage expected. Röhm even publicly criticized Hitler for his failure to carry through the National Socialist revolution.”
Ernst Röhm was the head of the SA before ‘33 and using workers unions to help the Nazi cause. After Hitler consolidated power that they were now a threat that had to be dealt with…
Report Post »Smitty1969
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:47pmNope!
Report Post »Smitty1969
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:58pm@ Drako srry you stand corrected!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 7:06pmThe Virginian:
See my response above, in the responses to “Silverline.”
I think we agree on more than we disagree on, and I think we agree that The Blaze needs to upgrade its thread presentation.
We haff to keep up with Ariaaannnnnna:)
Report Post »Smitty1969
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 7:55pmHmmm? They erased your post LLoyd, why? It was a good thread. One of few in the rants.
Report Post »Silverline
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:38amv
Report Post »felina g
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:51pmote !
Report Post »theVirginian
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:58pmActually Llyod, Smitty is right about him using them to get into power. It wasn’t until after that he dropped them -
“Under Röhm, the SA also often took the side of workers in strikes and other labour disputes, attacking strikebreakers and supporting picket lines. SA intimidation contributed to the rise of the Nazis, breaking down the electoral activity of the left-wing parties. However, the SA’s reputation for street violence and heavy drinking was a hindrance.”
“Röhm and the SA regarded themselves as the vanguard of the “National Socialist revolution.” After Hitler’s takeover, they expected radical changes in Germany, with power and rewards for them. However, Hitler’s use of the SA as storm troopers was a political weapon he no longer needed.
Along with Joseph Goebbels, Gottfried Feder and Walther Darré, Röhm was a prominent member of the party’s “socialist” faction. This group took the words “Sozialistische” and “Arbeiter” (“worker”) in the party’s name literally. They largely rejected capitalism (which they associated with Jews) and pushed for nationalisation of major industrial firms, expanded worker control, confiscation and redistribution of the estates of the old aristocracy and social equality. Röhm spoke of a “second revolution” against “reactionaries” (the National Socialist label for old-line conservatives), as the National Socialists had previously dealt with the Communists and Socialists.
All this was threatening to the business community, which had supported Hitler’s rise to power. So Hitler swiftly reassured businessmen that there would be no “second revolution.“ Many ”storm troopers” were of working-class origins and had expected a socialist programme. In fact, it was often said at the time that members of the SA were like a beefsteak — “brown on the outside and red on the inside”. They were now disappointed by the new regime’s lack of socialist direction and also failure to provide the lavish patronage expected. Röhm even publicly criticized Hitler for his failure to carry through the National Socialist revolution.”
Ernst Röhm was the head of the SA before ‘33 and using workers unions to help the Nazi cause. After Hitler consolidated power that they were now a threat that had to be dealt with…
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 6:13pmTheVirginian, you make some good points.
Before 1934 there was a “left wing” in Hitler’s party, centered in the SA. In the murky and violent atmosphere of the times, there was even a lot of coming and going beteeen Communists and Nazis: street fighting skills were valuable to both. The red color of Nazi banners was meant to provoke the Socialists and Communists, and at the same time (hopefully) to attract workers. Nazi art featured burly worker types with hammers (the better to beat Marxists with). Most notably, in 1932, Nazis and Communists briefly both supported a transit workers’ strike in Berlin. Unlike Mussolini’s Fascists before 1922, the Nazis were careful not to let themselves be used as strikebreakers. Many in the SA did see themselves as the vanguard of a workers’ revolution, not grasping that Hitler intended something more radical: a racial revolution. They paid the price for this misunderstanding in 1934.
But let’s not get carried away. None of this made the Nazis a truly left-wing, labor or union-based, or even union-sympathetic party. In the Reichstag, they sat to the right of the Nationalists. Few employed workers ever joined the Nazi unions, such as they were, or the Nazi Party before 1933. The Nazis competed unevenly with the Communists for unemployed workers to swell the SA, and none of the Party’s highest leadership could be described as of working-class origin.
I hate to bring it up, but there’s also the little matter of who was paying for all the beer hall rallies, street demonstrations, propaganda leaflets, and uniforms and weapons–not to mention the airplane that ferried Hitler around the country in 1932! Before that, it’s a total canard that “big business backed Hitler.” Cult-like, the Nazis drew most funding from fervent believers who were encouraged to “tithe,” so to speak, and pump their savings dry. In 1932, though, the Nazi drive, with its endless electioneering, had to rely on the “big RMs,” and these it got from heavy industry and the banking establishment, in exchange for promises that Hitler would smash Marxism and stifle the Communist, Socialist and confession-based unions, which he proceeded to do.
Report Post »theVirginian
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 10:33pmWhile that sounds mostly true Lloyd (perhaps entirely), the point was the unions being “useful idiots” to those who craved power, only to be betrayed by the powers that be when their usefulness was over.
And why did your other post disappear?? It was certainly civil, just us talking :)
Report Post »Right is right. Left is wrong.
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:38amGTS-LOS should be the new phrase for these people.
GTS-LOS = Government Teet Sucking Leeches of Society. You know, like the AFL-CIO
Report Post »dicklexic22
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:27amthat’s so clever, i hope it catches on. the leeches are the banking industry genius not the unions
Report Post »KEA
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:38amIf this is the best they can do for a Bottom Up moevement the left is in REAL trouble!
This guy is a GUTLESS LIER!
Report Post »BlazerBlazer
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:36amThe left are such hypocrites…they speak of peace, non-violent marches and this is what you get… not one Tea Party member has ever hurt anyone. I feel such frustration, but that is what they want… for us to lose our tempers, but it hasn’t worked yet… Tea Partiers keep the peace and make a mockery out of the left wing goons…
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 10:38amThis is the marxist-left. They have a different language than normal Americans do. It truly is 1984 with them, peace is war, love is hate, freedom is slavery.
Report Post »mOB
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:36amWhat an ass! This individual is an obvious example of a product of the public school system. For God’s sake if you care about your children get them in private school or homeschool them!
Report Post »excelizen (a goal, not a title!)
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:39amHomeschool Rules!!!
Report Post »lillianrose
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:21amYep- all 4 of kids, in a private christian school. Funny thing- it costs less to successfully operate than a public school and kids do very well on the sat tests. The teachers really care about the kids and do a great job preparing them for the future. I grew up in a small town and my experiences at public school made it a easy choice to not send my kids. Just one example- I was in 4th grade when I saw a fellow student getting beat up by a female teacher- he was punched and slammed up against the radiator, the school was not concerned and she got away with it.
Report Post »REDPILLREADY
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:07pm@lillianrose
Report Post »I appreciate your comments. I too put my boys in a Catholic school even though we weren’t Catholic. The school’s administration was extremely responsive to parents and had the authority and respect needed to run the school. The teachers were mostly good to great and the in the rare case one was not, normally a new one, they were gone within a year, sometimes mid-term. Try that in a public school. Definitely sent a message. Paying a very high property rate made tuition both difficult to afford but also it really burned my @$$. The $s I was paying for tuition was at least 50% less than the town was spending per child in the public system. With that said, the Catholic school was cleaner, better maintained, and just a much better environment for the kids. By the way, resources were very slim in the school. My boys were not angels and each ran up against some disciplinary issues. The deal was they were confronted fair and square with the warning that if it continued, they’d be gone. Scared them straight because they were both embarassed (shame has a purpose) and they definitely didn’t want to return to public school. The biggest thing that made me angry was learning the teachers were making much less than public school teachers. Thats when the light really went off: The public union system is corrupt and is failing our society!!! Its starving the kids of a good education which in turn undermines our democracy and the exceptionalism of our free market economy. The hell of it is public unions are just one of the things that really need to go to win this country back to our constitutional republic with a vibrant free market economy. America has been traveling on parrallel tracks for too long. Too many like us have opted out of public school and other failing aspects of the liberal-progressive controlled America AT OUR EXPENSE. They take our tax dollars and then we spend whats left on ensuring our values and standards are not comprimised by participating in their failed and corrupt institutions. Now we’ve arrived at a crisis. Despite the grossly excessive taxation, progressives still managed to spend us ALL into oblivion and destroyed the economy for ALL of us. Freedom loving, Truth seekers can no longer sit on the fence, pay the piper, and while the progressive-liberal ideology is ruining our nation. Of course I’m just describing what the tea party movement is all about. God bless it! Either the balance of the American people keep focused to continue the statement made in the 2010 midterm elections OR we learn how effective decades of progressive indoctrination and the exploding welfare-entitlement state has been in delivering us to the tipping point of no return. These are times that try men’s souls. 2012 can’t get here fast enough!
idrathermisstotheright
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:21pmIn Oregon:
Private Christian School = just under $5,000
Public School = $12,617
Private school = highest SATs in the state.
If we had free markets allowing you the choice with your own tax dollars what do you think people would choose?
Now isn‘t is funny when it comes to killing babies it’s all about choice but when it comes to educating the survivors, he// no we have only our way.
Report Post »Chino
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:36amIf you don’t agree with the way I think state/industry should be merged…. YOU’RE a fascist!
Report Post »JaneLovesJesus
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:34am“He’s bigger than me”. Oh puleeze. You are short so you get a free pass assaulting people? I think it’s clear who the thug is. Which one called the officer over, and which one ran from him?
Report Post »Seriously, people, stay safe. There are those who would love nothing more than violence in the streets :(
Bullwinkle
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:31amAnd it’s coming, probably very soon and very ugly.
Report Post »Think4yourself
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:34amMore union thugs. They are everywhere now…causing more and more problems.
http://www.unsalvageable.org
Report Post »Right is right. Left is wrong.
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:34amWhere is the MSM showing how violent the government teet sucking leaches of society are?
Report Post »dicklexic22
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:25ami bet you‘re typing from your mom’s basement. unions built the middle class and have been the only organizations in American history to stand up for workers against monopolies and corporations. conservatives like you just want to be water boys to the CEO crowd thinking maybe if you hold their jockstraps long enough their wealth will “trickle down”
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 4:03am@Dick–
Report Post »No, actually the free market built the middle class. And while it might be true that PRIVATE-SECTOR unions have, in the past, gotten fairer wages, working conditions, etc. for their members, we aren’t talking about private-sector unions now, are we?
dicklexic22
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 4:13amthe free market built the middle class, what does that mean? that’s like saying the economy built the middle class. your free market Beckism has gotten to your brain, the free market is not this inhuman entity working through us all like the spirit of the wind, it’s ran by human beings who are part of major institutions and who try constantly to rig the system most notably and most powerfully financial firms. the free market doesn’t do sh%t, people build things. and by the way, from the colonial era onward, government (public sector) has always been entangled with the private sector. you can’t separate the two economies or labor markets. public sector wages have always been a stop gag for downward spiraling private sector wages, they’re what check the private sector labor market. you take them out, there’s nothing stopping corporate america from turning the US into sweat shops.
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:13amMight I suggest you leave your computer and go read a history book?
A “middle-class” begins to emerge when private ownership of the means of production becomes possible (i.e., when a free market is established), as was the case in the late middle-ages/early renaissance with the end of feudalism.
Report Post »Just_Bubba
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 11:53am@dick…
Report Post »My skills and knowledge are what placed me firmly in the middle class, not some a$$ hole that is supposedly representing me. I was in a union for a decade and all it did was hold my wages down and place senority over productivity. I was told repeatedly to “slow down because you are making me look bad” and “if you work hard they will expect you to do it that fast all the time”.
Your whole premise is false so give it up and o get a real job where you are paid for what you do, not who you blow.
excelizen (a goal, not a title!)
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:33amWE must be peacful, We must Video Everything, and WE MUST PROSECUTE!
Report Post »LAM2
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:09amExcelizen — Completely agree that we must be peaceful. What ultimate good can be accomplished yelling into the face of a radical leftist? Most are not persuadable, and many have no clue why they are there. Far better to calmly ask questions while the camera runs and keep them talking — a very wise man once stated that that which comes out of the mouth is the overflow of the abundance of the heart (yea, I know, that was Jesus); now that those masks have come off, all we need to do is ask probing questions and let them reveal who they are at heart. Let them be hoisted on the petard of their own words.
Report Post »rodamaa
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:32amLooking at the shot of the cops and the horses, I had to wonder, who is the real horse’s ass
Report Post »BigMuddy
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:32amThe meathead union members always turn to violence because of their inability to express themselves verbally. The unions are finished. No amount of yelling or pushing and shoving can change that eventuality.
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:32am~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Report Post »I love watching the beginning of the end of union power. This is wonderful!!!
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banjarmon
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:32amwas that broker0101 doing the pushing?
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:34amNo, the guy wasn’t wearing diapers, couldn’t have been 101.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:00amHe had a date with his blow up doll.
Report Post »Insipid
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 9:31amI just can’t see BrokenRecord101 pushing anything, except his hockey helmet into the wall.
Report Post »WeveAlreadyWon
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:32amI thought Fascism is when the Government controls the Banks and Corporations.. hmm not what Tea Partiers stand for lat time I checked. Funny how stupid the Left is calling the Tea Partiers Nazi’s (who stand for Government Control) and Fascists.. Uneducated Brown Shirt thugs = SEIU
Report Post »Research idiots and find out who you are standing for. It might surprise your dumb asses.
lillianrose
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:33amSpeaking of a**’s- where is Joe?
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:31amSeems as though there is a bit of embellishment from both sides. I didn’t see a bum rush, a swinging bull horn or any choking. Nor did I see any spitting or backing up by the shorter guy.
So glad for cameras.
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:01amNotice how the thug trys to melt into the crowd and slip away when the police break it up. Can you say admission of guilt?
Report Post »Kurty C Wipe
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:17amWelcome Black Carter?? Thats funny, I don’t care who you are!
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:21amWBC ~ “Can you say admission of guilt?” No doubt! He knew the cops saw him violently push the other guy.
I’m just saying that when you already have right on your side, there is no need to add any little details to make your story sound better.
Report Post »KEA
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:31amTwo years of the left calling us violent racist teabaggers and not one shread of evidence!
Less than two weeks of protest and we now see numerous video proof that the left is guilty of excatly what they claimed the tea party was doing.
I hope they charge each and every one of them!
Report Post »Mstrrlm
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:39amHave u not seen that the left does what it wants and hold up a mirror and says look what the right is doing
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:31amI think everyone can tell who the real National Socialists are.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:33pmLeft-wing wankers call Walker a Nazi because Hitler smashed the German unions.
Right-wing wankers think the unions are Nazis because Hitler called his party “socialist” and workers.”
Neither seems to have the slightest appreciation of what Nazism was, except that it was bad.
Report Post »mere citizen
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:36pmLloyd, may I suggest you read “Why Hitler Came into Power” by Theodore Abel? Published in 1938, it contains autobiographical works from those who supported Hitler. There is much more to it, but it is clear that the Nazi party combined German Nationalism WITH socialism and that was a major part of the draw. As I read the book I came to believe that without the economic dislocation of nearly every aspect of German society Hitler could not have come to power. German society was quite stratified, and large numbers of Germans worked for the state. The whole fabric of society was being threatened by a rapidly changing world and into this void came communists and fascists who promised a better way. Read about the early days of Germany post WWI and it is startling to realize that essentially a civil war was taking place, one between Communists and the German form of Fascism. It is startling because it is history that once again, is not taught in schools. Nazism was in large parts,the response of the German people against Communists who were attempting to take over Germany. The fact that many prominent Jews were also Communists but who were Capitalists in their own life, while urging Communism on others, led to much of the early antisemitism. Think George Soros here. The similarities between the 30′s and now should give many pause.
I say that specifically because the tactics the Communists used then are not much different than the left use today. The chaos caused gave an opening to people who focused on social justice because they understood the pain the German people were in, and then they exacerbated the class and ethnic differences for political gain. Communists of the time were attempting to erase class and ethnic differences, the Nazi’s, understanding German society, enhanced those differences instead. I don‘t mean to sound like the Communists were the good guys here because they weren’t. But if someone truly wants to understand Fascism, including the German brand, it is necessary to highlight differences and similarities between the Communism and Fascism. Communists wanted to take property and make it the states, a huge problem for Germans, who had a much lower population of what was peasants than say Russia or France. Fascists were willing to let people kept their property and businesses, it’s just the state would tell them what to produce, how to produce and when to do so. That then took some of the risk out of capitalism and promised less chaos. It also required larger numbers of people employed by the state to enforce all those regulations, which decreased unemployment, which made the German people happy. The state therefore made unions obsolete, everyone was working for the same end and that end was for the betterment of the volk, through the agency of the state.
Report Post »By and large Fascism is a much more efficient form of socialism, a more militant communism. No stretch of the imagination makes the Tea Party movement or those attempting to back down government from within the Republican Party into Nazi’s or Fascists. It is only historical illiteracy and flat out lying from transference that can make that occur. Obama‘s and today’s lefts policies are close to Fascism than to Communism. One only has to do some research and reading to see it quite clearly.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:26pmat 4:13pm
Mere Citizen,
Most of your analysis of the Nazi phenomenon is accurate, but not all. Abel is valuable, but much research on Nazism postdates 1938! Richard Evans’ recent 3-volume “The 3rd Reich” takes up most of the controversies and draws on lots of sources that have arisen since, and weighs them fairly.
The best way to approach Hitler’s “socialism” is by way of your observation that German society was highly stratified: honors, titles, dress and decorations meant something. Officially, the Nazis ignored these things, welcoming rich, poor, aristocrat, commoner, worker, farmer, middle class, rural, urban, Protestant, Catholic (just not Jewish!), whatever. Hitler when it suited him claimed to be a worker, on the basis of a few odd jobs in his early 20s.. In practice, few Nazis were working-class before 1933; the Nazis made various attempts to take over existing unions or create their own, with no success at all. Most German working-class folk, if not devoutly Catholic, had bought into one form or another of Marxism–Socialist or Communist–by the time the Depression hit. The German Communists especially were the ones who, as you so well put it, “came into the void” created by World War I, and Nazism (and other fascist movements) were in the literal sense “reactionary” because the Communists really had been the first to unleash serious civil violence in 1919.
Your most interesting comment is that Communists wanted to erase class and ethnic distinctions, while Nazis wanted to enhance them. Sorta wrong and sorta right. Communists preached class conflict for now, a classless society later, They denounced racism and nationalism as spawn of capitalism which would disappear when it did. Nazis based their whole ideology on the idea of racial hierarchy: the master race should stifle the preachers of class conflict (”first they came for the communists, then they came for the socialists”) so that the purified unified racial community could expand and subjugate inferior breeds. But Communists of course were not above ethnic prejudices despite themselves, and the Nazis, despite their view that all Germans except Jews should be joined in a blonde, apple-cheeked “racial comradeship,” displayed a keen sense of class and played on it: Hitler sometimes affected the guise of a bluff, simple worker and sometimes tricked himself out in formal dress with a lot of heel-clicking and ladies’-hand-kissing.
I don’t agree with you that Nazism was a more efficient form of socialism than communism. It wasn’t very efficient at all, as the test of World War II proved! There were overlapping jurisdictions, rival bureaucratic and military hierarchies, redundant agencies, uncoordinated programs and projects from start to finish. Nor was it socialism. The commonly accepted definition of socialism includes state ownership of the land, factories and basically all :”means of production,” so by your admission the Nazis were only nominally socialist: farmers kept their land titles, corporations made profits and paid dividends, homeowners (except Jewish ones) were not turned out of their homes by “committees of the poor” as in Lenin’s Russia. Hitler revealed his real views on labor when he destroyed Communist, Socialist and Catholic trade unions in 1933. He replaced them with a new labor organization of his own, one which included all workers and in which all but cosmetic advantages were on the side of management–Nazi management, with Nazis becoming capitalists and capitalists, if they knew what was good for them, becoming Nazis.
Two other groups you bring up deserve mention: peasants and Jews. German farmers dreaded Communist expropriation and collectivization and so backed the Nazis in large numbers, and who can blame them? Jews were prominent neither in Germany‘s Communist Party not in the ranks of Germany’s biggest capitalist interests. Some who were prominent in culture and the arts–big battlegrounds in Weimar days as now–were Communists, but not Party biggies. Jewish capital was mostly in commerce and banking, not industry, and I can’t think of any Jews who were both prominent in German Communist politics and at the same time big market players. I challenge you to name one!
I for one have never called Tea Partiers Nazis. I think George Soros is entitled to spread his views and his money in any non-violent, legal way he likes. I think Obama is a thoughtful man who tries to be non-ideological but still thinks in “left” categories. He’s probably overwhelmed by the suddenness of his rise and the extent of his responsibilities, but I think he’s improving and will continue to do so in his second term.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:41pmMere Citizen, I would want to add that while the Nazi Party before it came to power was socially broadly middle-class, stylistically it was anything but “bourgeois,” with its discipline, uniforms, saluting, street brawling, etc.
Neither the Tea Party nor the left-union protest movement so far much resembles it there. A few wackos carrying guns or roughing up the opposition are far from the state of Germany in 1919, or even 1932, when, as you say, there was virtual civil war.
Report Post »Comeandtakeit
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:30amI hope the tea party makes sure to always have video cameras handy at these events. I am a five foot one 67-year old woman and a woman got in MY face at a town hall. It was very fascinating. She did not physically do anything but it was amazing to me the vitriol evident in her face because she disagreed with me speaking out at the town hall. She was carrying one of those “astroturfed” signs.
I was standing in front after the meeting and everyone was being pleasant and nice when this woman came up to me and literally accosted me. I was astounded as were the people around me who had been talking to me. That sort of thing usually doesn’t happen where we live and there was an overwhelmingly anti-obamacare bill group there who had been listening to our congressman, who is also against the bill. A small group was there with matching signs. She was very rude. She literally snarled at me.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 7:57am@ COMEANDTAKEIT~~ We are the same age and apparently notice many similar things, like “She literally snarled at me.” Don’t they? It seems to me satan is being uncovered before our very eyes.
I, too, am “short”. It gives us a good center of balance from which to swing should the need arise. We are exercising these days as if our lives depend on our ability to physically defend ourselves. Power on, COMEANDTAKEIT, and GOD BLESS and PROTECT!
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:21amAt first I thought it was the Dems against the Rep. party, My thoughts are shifting now to what you really have are the government sponges wanting everything given to them, against actual hard working, peace loving Americans of both parties. I too was accosted by a “progressive libraturd” at a park once, just for having an American flag sewn on my vest. The rant was against “American Imperialism”. This was recent and the wormie little guy was about a foot shorter then me, and I am 6′2″ and 200lbs, and was with my motorcycle club at the time. I really do think they are just looking for the incident that will spark the civil war that THEY want. There is a saying we are all aware of…Careful what you pray for….You all know the rest, and my patience is wearing VERY thin.
Report Post »Semper Fi !!!
PatriotMomof5
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:30amA bully who found his 30 seconds of fame. Bottom of the food chain. Doesn’t he have anything better to do……like grow-up?
Report Post »saviorammo
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:50amHave you ever been to Stockton? It’s the craphole of CA. That tell you anything? The entire city’s I.Q is less than a third grader.
This is just the beginning. When commies get desperate they get even more irrational. Don’t count on Law Enforcement on any level to do squat.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:58amUnfortuntely, yes I have been to Stockton. A buddy of mine, his Brother-in-Law was found shot dead there. Some sort of drug deal, he was walked out into a field, and a bullet to the back of the head. Just a lovely town full of lovely, peaceful people.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:09amHey Stockton is still better than Oakland
Report Post »taebaggranny
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:46am@ SAVIORAMMO Yeah, I’ve been to Stockton and the only place worse is Medesto, CA.. Both are drug and crime capitols..Then you have Bakersfield, Fresno, Sacramento and SAN FRANCISCO, Berkley and Oakland…I don’t live in CA anymore..It was becoming angerous to go to the grocery store in the middle of the day where I lived..A little town between Visalia and Bakersfield..
Report Post »thebertmanlives
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:30amYa. He really looks “injured” more like his pride.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:20pmI wonder what you would say if you were on the receiving end of that thugs assault?
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:43pmYou must have been looking at the vid.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 4:23pmBertman you seem like a really nice lady so I will try to be polite to you. Do you allow people to assault and batter you? Would it be okay if I crushed your grill and stomped your guts out?
Probably not. And I know that because I try really hard to live within the legal framework of society. Now you on the other hand probably don’t care about these things because you were indoctrinated by leftists who told you it was ok to lie,cheat,and steal because youre doing the lefts work. You see, ma’am, we here at the blaze and all of Becks extended family, that means us not you, fear nothing that comes from you. You cannot defeat us because the battle has already been fought and won. Now you are just sorting yourself out as to where you’d like to stand. I would suggest that you do a little soul searching and decide if the measly morsels you receive for your hard work here on the blaze are worth your sacred honor- if you have any left. Be a nice lady and get a real job.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:30amYeah, he even tried to hurt my hand with his throat and break my bullhorn with his head. That Jerk then tried to bleed on me. Everytime I threw a punch, he just keep hitting my fist with his body. All his fault.
Report Post »NextGeneration
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:02amUnion thugs!
Report Post »GrannyATL
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:28amLet’s see if this gets covered by anyone besides Fox.
Report Post »Think4yourself
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:35amNot a chance. That would not support their agenda.
http://www.unsalvageable.org
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
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Report Post »It doesn’t matter. The union’s power is soon to be history along with anyone who defends them, i.e. Obama and friends. This is an absolute hoot!!
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Boss J
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:38amThat looked a lot like Pelosi and company pushing through a crowd in order to stir up some trouble.
Report Post »I‘m guessing that the unions didn’t provide Port-a-Potties for their crew and they were coming over to use the Right’s.
CatB
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:39amJust doing what the leader said to do …. and btw .. it is called “projection” when the real violent left accuses the non-violent right of violence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMDur9CDZ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv-L_UEYtNo
Report Post »cidav8r
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:43amBUST THE UNIONS! These people are THUGS. They use strong-arm tactics to bully others. If private employers want to coddle these people and let union labor run them out of business – fine. But there is NO reason for unions to represent employees at ANY level of government. BUST THE UNIONS. GET RID OF THEM. It’s time these people get paid at no higher than the average private job, it’s time they contributed to their benefits like any private job, and it’s time their ridiculous tenure job protection gets round filed. Perform your job well or GET OUT. BUST THE UNIONS! They are killing our country and are flat out anti-American, socialist Bolshevik thugs! BUST ‘EM!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:45amAccording to my local NBC affliate tonight there are no TEA Party protests going on — it is all Union and all good … and all lies! I don’t usually watch but I wanted to see the weather .. I should have just looked online!
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:46amIs it a coincidence that immediately after Obama said that he will heal the world,
Report Post »the whole world is on fire ?
Is it a coincidence that immediately after after Obama said that his will be a post-racial Presidency, we are seeing the worst form of hatred against Whites by his core supporters ?
Is it a coincidence that immediately after Obama said that the Gov of WI has assaulted the unions, the unions are actually physically assaulting American patriots ?
Quagaar Warrior
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Report Post »I wouldn’t buy anything union-made if it was the last item on the shelf!!!
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thepatriotdave
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:49amThe left has NO CLUE as to what the American Dream is. And I’m starting to think that the Union rank and file only care about one thing… THEMSELVES!
It’s as if the Unions have given the country a giant middle finger by getting chummy with Socialists, Marxists, Anarchists, progressives, etc.
http://www.americasteapartynews.com
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:00amUm….and? Maybe it’s because I lived in Athens GA, college town of the University of GA where there are 112 places to drink in a 6×3 block area, but someone shoving another doesn’t quite get me in a “state”. This to me is VERY tame when you have two hard-core ideologies demonstrating together.
Report Post »Maybe just me, but “yawn”.
cheezwhiz
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:02amLets recall:
Report Post »Get in their faces
They bring a knife, you bring a gun
I am angry
Punish your enemies
Whose @$$ to kick
Fired up,ready to go
Sit in the back of the car
Your agenda is my agenda
I won
Did I miss any pearls of wisdom ?
ISRFLAGSTILLTHERE
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:05amWhat a tough guy looks like the unions are showing there true colors
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:06am@cheezwhiz
You missed just one.
“Look General, you wake me up one more time at 3AM talking about some world crisis, I am going to kick your A$$. I got a golf game tomorrow.”
And.
“If we just ignore the problems, they will go away”
Report Post »RJGUSA
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:09amThese punks eventually are going to push or strike the wrong person. That bull horn would be sticking out of that idiots ass if that was me he tried to get tough with.
Report Post »Blowbama, Soros, Van J. & co. You are succeeding in dividing the very people who stood together post 9/11. I’m pissed & I hope you all are too! God save our REPUBLIC!
SHASTADIANE1
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:12amJust more of the same old same old. I have a FB friend tonight trying to tell me about how RIGHT the unions are..I hate to POST on FB contriversial subjects, because you get so much crap. But this gal I have known for over 30 years, and I really like her, but she is so radical left that it is just way beyond my comprehension. Really does make me wonder about people and how their thought process works??? I just get up in the morning and go to work and do my job, and support myself and my kids and my grandkids..I keep track of what is going on in this world. Glenn Beck is so close to http://www.tribulationperiod.com, that I have to think that he is right on with all his rantings and ravings. He gets upset..hello, yeah, I am upset also…I just worry about my kids, grandkids etc. I am not long for this world, but they still have to live in it for a while or at least till the Lord comes back…Be prepared people..that is all I can say, is be prepared, and check out the BLOG on the website I have mentioned…it will scare you, and I think that Glenn may be getting some of his predictions from here. IF NOT, then he is not the ONLY one saying the same thing.
Report Post »Founder
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:37amLooks like no one is covering anything – it is almost as if these protests never happened… the most coverage I see is here on blaze… even the chatter channels are “off”….
this was a complete failure in terms of how thuggery works, “they” love extremism and sympathy when there is imagery showing them being beatin and jailed ,, and got none today. and no one cared.
this was their last great day to start something and it didnt work,, the fleebaggers HAVE to come back now. Even they have said they “may” have made a mistake.
The unions are busted,,, there is no other choice and they know it, they just wanted to go out in a huff
Damn! my tea is hot!!! gotta run……..
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 7:37amCATB…my 14 year old son only watches the lib media to see what lies they are telling the people who watch. He gets so mad, because he knows the truth and he knows exactly when they are lying.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 10:07amOnce again, the greed and violence from the left shows just who they realy are.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:34pmCHEEZWHIZ, you forgot these: “Grab a torch” and: “I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore…I’m wondering if I could kill him myself…” and: warnings about “rivers of blood” or: “put poison in Nancy Pelosi’s wine” maybe: “shoot to kill” to Liberty Univ grads, or they may shoot first “shoot them in the head” and the good ol’ “second amendment remedies” to solve the HarryReid problem and: “don’t retreat, instead reload”..and on, and on, and on…
Report Post »thebertmanlives
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:27amGlenda hopes for a civil war but when it comes, Where will he hide?
hifi74
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:16amWell obviously you are either not paying attention to what Glenn has said or you are too blinded by your toe-the-line idiocy that you refuse to see it…. which one is it?
cheezwhiz
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:20amHe is warning us , but you guys are planning and arming for that civil war, and going by the character of your people, there won’t be anything civil about it either.
Don’t tell us that your side is not relishing this turmoil, chaos, hatred , hostility and animosity towards our country and her people.
Atleast have the decency to accept responsibility for the lumps of cr@p you people are leaving on our country’s lawn
saviorammo
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:23amWrong question to ask yourself. You are the one who prides himself on living!
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:27amdoh! You were soooo close to making a coherent statement. Relax for a while, wait till the meth wears off, and try again.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:27amthebertmanlives-in-his-Moms-basement,
The short guy sure looks like a skin-head to me. Or is it just my glasses?
http://www.americasteapartynews.com
Report Post »FlatFoot
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:36amUnion Thugs doing what they do best will incite and incite and then claim self-defense. Select members get training for it by Union bosses. Think of the inner workings of Union’s such as the AFL-CIO as a motorcycle gang, or a mafioso ‘family’. You have to start at the bottom as something akin to a ‘prospect’ and then work your way up doing ‘dirty work’. One of the ways to ‘make your bones’ is to do what those two clowns were doing in the video together. In fact, Unions have long been known to bring in ‘mercenaries’ that are not even Union members but are affiliated in some way and they are very good at thuggery.
We’ll be seeing a lot more of these shenanigans from Union hooligans. Frankly, I‘m a bit surprised we haven’t seen a lot more of it already given Barack Hussein Obama’s very close knit friendship with Trumka and how, for Obama and his personal agenda for America, Unions and Union Thugs are such useful tools.
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” -Barack Hussein Obama
“Every once and awhile you need to get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary.” -Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.)
“We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.” -President Barack Hussein Obama
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:45am@ FlatFoot
And I was thinking that since the Guano ( D-Mass) sorta kinda seemingly walked back from his call for bloody streets,
Obama’s thugs will forget their instincts and become paragons of non-violence and zen
Miami
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:02amI hope to God these aren’t teachers… If they are it explainers a lot.
“Hitler hated Unions…”
Does this MORON know that Hitler was a community organizer? His nickname was the Paper Hanger.
These union thugs even look like they might be from the Aryan Brotherhood, skinheads and all. The guy with the assaulter wearing the skullcap and Teamsters pullover sure fit the click…
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
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@ Thepatriotdave,
WHAT THE HELL YOU MORON, I’m the most conservative, pro-American, pro-Constitutional, anti-union, anti-Obama, anti-democrat, American that can possibly exist! I choose to shave my head like his because it’s cool, comfortable, and looks good because I’m balding as he is. You, my friend, are an embarressment to all conservatives everywhere, (assuming you are one)! To compare anyone to an anti-American, democrat, union-member because of the length of his hair is perfectly and absolutely narrowmindedly shallow. You owe all true Americans, and especially me, an apology!!!
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cheezwhiz
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:10am@ Miami
I hope to God these aren’t teachers… If they are it explainers a lot.
Report Post »They might be nurses. Remember this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9X1Va5aw5Y&feature=player_embedded
They are Jerry Brown’s BFFs
Miami
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:17amBy the way I never hid in 7 tours of duty, what makes you pencil necks think we would hide from you…?
Big talk from a keyboard, just like the punk in the video, he ran or tried to…
the only reason he was even mouthing off was because of the gang of thugs around him. Note how he coward in front of the camera after wards. Claiming to be the victim, what a wimp, a man has character or he doesn‘t and they clowns don’t have the conviction to stand by their actions.
All you Liberals follow the same idiotic formula, for God sakes come up with something NEW…!
Report Post »Miami
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:30amcheezwhiz
Unions need to GO
They had their time, just like Slavery, prearranged marriages and trading dowries. Things run their course and Unions have run theirs’
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:42am@ thebertmanlives
Report Post »When your people tell hard-working tax-paying patriotic Americans to
“go home”
is it something like what your beauty queen Helen Thomas says about Jews ?
Or like what illegal mexicans say about Americans ?
oberhammer
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:45amAFL-CIO president Richard Trumka (Obama’s best friend) makes over 7 million dollars per year being a Union Mafia Boss. He owns multiple mansions. Think the main stream progressive press will report this?
Report Post »I wonder how much money he has in off shore accounts. Maybe someone should investigate him. Hell will freeze over first before 0Bama’s administration investigates this progressive socialist crook.
Templar Knight
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:55amLiberal Hippie Progressive Commies like yourself aren’t to bright. If anything we don’t want a civil war but your side does.
Soros – Calls for civil inseparability.
Jones – Calls for top down bottom up and inside out chaos.
Piven – Calls for riots in the streets.
You and your fellow Union workers have been calling for violence. It‘s obvious which rally’s are peaceful and which aren’t. With the Tea Party rallies the media tried so desperately to find violence but could find none. With the Union rally‘s it’s so easy to spot the violence yet the media tries to hide that fact.
So Berttheteenagewitless care to make any claims that dispute these facts? Cause the more you lefties talk, the more obvious it is how stupid you really are.
Report Post »Buzzsaw
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:24amAt your moms house of course.
Report Post »freedomofspeech
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:47am“Glenda” oh your funny. Civil war what are you talking about. just because unions want to milk the tax payers for more money, haven‘t you heard our country is BROKE and that’s no joke. The private sec has already had our pay and time cut also what the companies we work for has decrease the amount they match with our pensions and healthcare.
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:52am@Miami–
Report Post »“Hitler Hated Unions…” sign caught my attention too, and made me think: You do realize that Nazi is short for National Socialist German **Workers’** Party?
walkwithme1966
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 4:10amSo all of you are afraid of a civil war from a little bitty pushing match that last all of 2 minutes – this is what Beck has done to you – he has made you afraid and when people are afraid, they get out their guns and without much provocation – someone shoots and real violence breaks out. And this is exactly what Glenn wants so he can say – I told you so!!!! Don’t let it happen! http://wp.me/pYLB7-H6
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 4:57amPublic sector unions fleece the tax payer. They should be outlawed.
Report Post »http://guerillatics.com
mere citizen
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 6:36amUmm, as a nurse who works in a union hospital, and a union that was rolled into the National Nurses United WITHOUT A MEMBERSHIP VOTE, I assure you that the video you are seeing is not nurses who are being thugs, it is the organizers for the union who ARE NOT NURSES. Anymore than the hypocrite who is the Director, Rose Ann DeMoro, is a nurse. She has never been anything but a union organizer. None of the top union people are nurses.
Report Post »This union is so radical that when our contract came up last year it became ugly almost from the get go and the union was pushing hard for a strike, the hospital threatened strike breakers. In March last year when the contract expired the hospital stopped automatically deducting dues and promptly almost half of the nurses refused to pay dues, including myself. It is what ultimately made the union willing to negogiate instead of using in your face tactics because so many were not paying dues the union was close to decertification.
Traditionally, nurses did not unionize, and did so only when we were forced into hours and patient loads that were not safe. Like much of union history however, the conditions that drove people into unions are much different now. Not because hospitals would operate any differently then they used to if they could, but because of the expectations of the public that has been educated to understand a nurse doing a 16 hour shift could kill you with a mistake, or a nurse taking care of 7 patients could do the same. Did unions play a part in making this difference? Yes, they did. And like so many unions once the main issues have been dealt with, they make up new ones in order to keep living. I once supported my union strongly because I believed they made the difference regarding how well patients were taken care of, today I can’t support that union because they no longer have the focus on the patient and patient care, though they pretend to. They have a focus instead on their power and how to increase union facilities. The California Nurse Association where the National Nurses United grew out of, has a long history of controversy and radical politics under DeMoro. But then one of her professors was an ex SDS member, and it is that professor that she cites as her inspiration. Charming is it not?
So be clear, the vast majority of nurses are not unionized. The spokespeople you see for ones who are unionized are rarely, very rarely nurses themselves. In fact the head of my union has said some things regarding nurse practice that are so asinine that it outraged the majority of us because of his severe lack of understanding how we actually practice. I know I was not the only person who wrote him a scathing letter about his need to educate himself and thus not embarrass us in public. Make a difference? Doubtful, but it made me feel better for a minute. There are a few nurses who would behave the way that union thug did, but they are few and far between.
cessna152
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 7:05am@Miami
Report Post »So true… these morons don’t realize that Hitler stood for everything that Tea partiers are against. Hitler was a big government, socialist (National) against freedom. Gee, the Tea party is for smaller government and free market principals. I am so fed up with these lying, slandering, disingenuous progressives. It almost seems they can get away with being animals and we are tormented for standing on a street corner smiling… this is just the beginning folks. However, I will never back down to these people and I know most Tea partiers will not either.
nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 7:26amDo you see how these little punks are emboldened. He should have been arrested.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 7:30amMy husband is a teamster and hates them. They do not look out for eachother, in fact they are always trying to get their union brothers fired. They always vote for themselves. leaving the newbes with a lower wage. it dont matter how well you work, it is all by seniority. Its the communist way.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:13amWas this skin head union thug stuuuuupid or what? He couldn’t put a sentence together in his non-coherent defense of his actions.
Report Post »This is what we are up against folks. Try having a rational discussion with people like that. They have no defence of their arguments and resort to insults and physical intimidation. In short, we are dealing with adults that use adolescent reasoning.
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:23amThat Union guy is wearing the same boots as the
Report Post »cops ????
Bronco II
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:32amWell I guess we know you don’t listen or watch Glenn because your lieing he has said the opposite of what your trying to put in peoples head.SHAME ON YOU.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:49am@Quagaar Warrior
What don’t you understand about the following statement?
The guy is a skin head union thug.
Are you having a bad hair day? Just asking.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:52amRegarding: “Hitler Hated Unions” sign
There is a term for the rhetorical evocation of der fuhrer in a debate, its called Godwin’s Law.
Godwin’s Law states that the first person/group to compare the other to Hitler/Nazis loses and has no point.
Report Post »Insipid
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:53amQuagaar Warrior I am with you my brother. I shave my head as well for the same reasons, not to mention the ladies don’t seem to complain. It really stinks when people like to call others names or place them in groups when they simply don’t know all the facts.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:57am@Quagaar Warrior
Report Post »Thanks for that. My husband is so far right it’s pitiful and he shaves his head. He says he doesn’t want a “toilet seat” look. but in the case of the union worker, actions go with it to make a complete package. My husband wouldn’t asault someone, either.
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 9:07am@walkwithme1966
Report Post »I see your still actively posting useless unsubstantiated nonsense. Don’t you ever get sick of listening to yourself? How do people like you get so miserable?
I think either your parents beat you too much or they didn’t beat you enough.
fulcrum
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 9:30amIs it me?
Report Post »It seems these union protesters are racist, I don’t see many african Americans in their marches, in fact they look like skin heads bikers
Melvin Spittle
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 9:37amWhat I find interesting is that law enforcement is union and therefore have taken sides in this issue even though they swore an oath to uphold the law. Wisconsin is evidence of this which begs the question: Should ANY law enforcement agency be allowed to unionize? Could this not present a conflict of interest as it has in Wisconsin?
Report Post »kreese
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 9:47am@ FLATFOOT:
You said it very well! Anyone who who disagrees is either an ignoramous or a Democrat–oh well, they’re the same. Did I forget to mention stupid?
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 9:57am@ Quagaar Warrior I think you owe Patriotdave an appology my friend. I thought the very same thing, skin head. You might to choose to shave your head because it makes you look “cool” due to hair loss. But thugs and gangsters shave their heads to portray an image of being tough and to make it harder to id an individual. Patriotdave didn’t say that guy was an anti-American, democrat, union-member because of the length of his hair… You did. What he implied was… that anti-American, democrat, union-member looked like a skinhead. I agree.
Report Post »rappini
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 9:58amBarry Soetoro is making this all happen with the Unions because he’s planning a big push for the 2012 elections and the Unions will put him back in the WH in 2012. Just like they put Dingy Harry and Miss America (Pelosi) back in office last November. The Unicoms are planning the that TP just goes to sleep between now and 2012.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 10:18amLet’s be clear; any moron who calls a Tea Party supporter a Nazi is soooo ignorant that they can’t even be taken seriously. Hitler was a socialist. If you don’t know that, you really should keep your mouth shut because just by opening it you let everyone know you’re profoundly stupid. But just incase you can’t read history, think, who would commit atrocities? Someone who wants freedom and small government or someone who wants to take the rights away from people so they can under perform and not have to worry about losing their job. Someone who thinks it’s OK to steal from others so they can sit on their fat lazy ass? Unions destroy industries and those who support them are selfish and lazy! To use a moronic liberal word, they are unsustainable. LIBERIALISM = EPIC FAILURE!
Report Post »Coralchristie
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 10:29am“Hopes for civil war”? Obviously you haven’t listened to him or you like to lie. Beck promotes peaceful responses.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 10:30amMaboulet…. I mean Walkwithme, Ya know you really need to get that multiple personality thing looked a. You have claimed to watch his show and listen blah blah blah, but you come on here and mince words and twist what he has said ust like you do copy and pasting from media matter on your blog that you reference on here too. Funny how you have to use the right to springboard your leftist ideology. Just like you showed before, YOU (I mean you walkwithme) are ok with the lefts mantra of “If you support me I’ll force everyone else to support you” ideology of the liberal loons in Wisconsin. Try again though, I am actually starting to enjoy your looking like a loon routine.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 10:44amTea-Baggers are finding out that Karma is a bitch. They thought that they had exclusive rights to shout down and intimidate. Tea-Baggers need to learn that they are a reactionary minority and real american patriots have awoken and are defending the rights of all americans, not just the rich corporate masters.
Stay strong teamsters.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 11:15amIgnore this one…he’s a professional Soros thug.
Report Post »jeckelmyhyde
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 11:30amBeck has been pretty much on target, althougjh thebertmanlives could be correct. The left are the ones that are overreacting in a knee jerking manner to Beck. Facts always seem to bother them and they have a hard time dealing with them. I can see you lefties feeling that way, after all, isn’t it all about feeling over fact with you guys. If you dissagree with someone you either resort to character assassination or name calling and then progress to violence.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 11:31amstart pressing charges against these bastards…
Report Post »davisgarvey
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 11:51amYou are not paying attention, “bertmanlives,” to what GB is discussing. There is proof aplenty that he‘s not too far from the truth of what’s actually going on in the country. You are intentionally deaf, dumb and blind – the pity is that you likely have some level of intelligence that’s bein suppressed.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 11:55amwho is the real nazi here? the one w/ no hair is who…
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
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Report Post »@ Armed Patriot,
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Hey moron, I never said it makes me LOOK cool. I said it’s cool, as in TEMPERATURE, idiot. I thought the word that followed might give you a clue. Apparently not. You’re obviously a victim of the public school system. I’m sure you failed reading comprehension at every level. That’s assuming you ever moved up at all. Try slowing down long enough to comprehend the meaning of words and how they are assembled.
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junior1971
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:50pmWho’s Glenda?
Report Post »junior1971
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:52pmOh, by the way, he can hide behind me!
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 12:59pmQUAGAAR WARRIOR,
I can see your argument especially since I still keep the high and tight (I’m due for a haircut too now that I think about it) from my military days 7 years ago, but PatriotDave didn’t necessarily equate short hair to white supremacists. Looking at the total context, I took it as the thugs actions as a whole combined with his rather bare head colluded with the images that we all associate with Skinheads, Nazi’s, and their ilk.
I would venture to guess that there was no ill will meant on his part by his comment, but it could have been worded a little better to more accurately portray his thoughts. I think this is more of a miscommunication.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:01pmJunior,
I’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with you on that too.
Report Post »Ed Cramden
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:08pmGlenn believes that we are in the end times. Delusional? lolol Yes.
Report Post »Ed Cramden
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:09pmAre those two guys gonna kiss? Tough guys with no brains.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 1:46pmThe Herman Cain supporters are not going to be happy that bald=”skinhead.” 70,000+ (just in THIS location) union supporters and there are a handful of pushing vids?
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:08pmah, this is NOT Wisconsin, and there‘s no evidence that he’s with a union.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:14pmTIFOSA
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:08pm
ah, this is NOT Wisconsin, and there‘s no evidence that he’s with a union.
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Well if you choose to willfully ignore the Teamsters jacket he is wearing. Funny how that doesn’t seem to be a rather telling detail to you.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 2:49pmUh no, like I said…
Report Post »happyboy
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 3:28pmLOOK CLOSE, MANY UNION THUGS ARE ARMED WITH HAND GUNS.
Many of these Union Thugs must be police officers if they can carry guns. This is the reason the local police are not doing anything to prevent violence. The TEA must be better organized and create teams of people to take videos to prove that these Union Thugs are really criminals. Any police officer who becomes violent in a demonstration should be fired and videos are the only way to prove it. It they have shaved heads, they may be police officers, they save their heads to prevent criminals from pulling on their hair during an arrest.
The TEA cry in China is JASMINE.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 4:00pmbertman
Where will he or we “hide?” I’m not sure i understand your 5th grade question. We aren’t hiding anywhere. never were never will. it is you sir, who hides behind words and in the shadows. youre a bottom feeder who licks his masters hands for a taste of the spoils. You don’t believe anything you say. someone tells you what to say then like a little kid you just regurgitate it. You are also a capitalist failure and will never amount to anything. They are not gonna let little scumbags like you into all the hip parties. youre not gonna be the man of the hour at any hour. you’re a patsy, man, wake up. Youre disposable, don’t you get it? Are you doing all this so you can have a slave job with no chance to be anybody that anybody will remember?
Report Post »Templar Knight
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:11pm@hifi74
Lol, I think you just left Tifosa speechless without a comeback. It‘s obvious the federal funded schools aren’t doing their jobs when kids like him or her don’t know what Teamsters are. Probably doesn’t even know who Jimmy Hoffa was. Or how Robert Kennedy a Democrat fought against one of the biggest Union bosses of all time.
Report Post »pitboss711
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:21pmWell, I guess if I didn’t think I could make it through life without a union holding my hand…I’d feel threatened, too. Poor insecure babies.
Report Post »pitboss711
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:36pm“He was spitting on me, he’s bigger than me, and I told him to get off of me,” Andazola said. “I was backing up and he was staying on me ’til the point that he spit in my mouth.”
The video clearly shows that Andazola is a blantant liar. Andazola approached the Tea Partier. Andazola instigaged the shoving. Then, Andazola whines and cries like a little beotch. This is typical liberal behavior, so who’s surprised??
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:43pmNot speechless, I stood by what I said. period. I suspect this is why the headline has: ‘Teamster’ because it’s an assumption.
Report Post »pitboss711
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:45pmI’ve always thought gang/mob mentality was amusing. “I’m not squat one-on-one, but I’m a big man with my buddies around me to back me up. Hold me back…ho-o-old me back!!” What a maroon!
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:49pmand yeah, TEMPLAR KNIGHT, it’s clear that you are waaaaaaaaaaay more intelligent than me. It was interesting that my female avatar didn‘t clarify whether I’m a male or female-sort of proves my case :P
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 6:01pmtifosa
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:49pm
and yeah, TEMPLAR KNIGHT, it’s clear that you are waaaaaaaaaaay more intelligent than me. It was interesting that my female avatar didn‘t clarify whether I’m a male or female-sort of proves my case :P
LMAO…
Report Post »Pathetic.
Tif, how much does failing for a living pay? I suppose I could try to go to school to learn how to fail….
Where did you get your degree, cuz you are a Master at it.
lillymckim
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 7:44pmIn these last few months, around the country, our district leaders and others have had the opportunity to participate in gatherings of union and community activists and local elected officials discussing how to weather the storm and come out of it with stronger unity, larger member involvement, broader outreach and new leaders.
Just as our Party was in the heart of the election battle, we are now contributing to this fierce fight back to stem the tide of union busting and privatization.
Even as we contend with the dangerous and extremist Tea Party, there is also a rising class consciousness in our country that must be nurtured and organized. That is our task.
Oh yes from the “CPUSA” the Communist Party USA
Report Post »The same CPUSA who are marching Arm In Arm with Big Union!! Who are part of the 50 state protests!
MCAinSTL
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:03pmGlenn does advocate non-violence and uses Ghandi and MLK as examples. The difference is that Ghandi and King were fighting against institutional wrongs. In our case, the media makes the union thugs out to be the oppressed, so they don’t care what happens to us. The only thing the union thugs understand is violence and fear. They need to be intimidated by us and when they see us at a rally, fear us. This is about the 10th report just on The Blaze I’ve seen about our people getting assulated and just taking it! We look like a bunch of wussies. Personally, if someone hits me, I’ll either shoot them with the .38 I always have with me or I’ll mace them and beat them without mercy.
Report Post »EL ZORRO
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:48pmYou coment is a perfect example of PROYECTION, you accuse others of what you are guilty of, you have not shame, been a PAY MERCENARY of the ENEMYS of your own coutry, George Soros is proud of his job on MORONS like you.
Report Post »EL ZORRO
Templar Knight
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 8:53pm@Tifosa:
Your statement was invalid and absolutely has no basis to stand by. Your accusation:
“There is absolutely no evidence that he is with a union.”
Stands inaccurate as Teamsters is a well known large union. As well this violent man is marching with union members, and he is defending union beliefs with violence. What other evidence do you need? Did your school of progressive communists not teach you how to use common sense? Does intelligence not apply to you as long as you say “I am right you are wrong”?
Fact of the matter is progressives like you don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to arguments so then those of you who rally resort to violence. It‘s all over the place not just in Wisconsin where Union members who rally for Unions have attacked opposing your rally’s like those of us who are in the Tea Party’s.
As for your avatar I didn’t pay much attention to it as more so the comments people post. But even if I did this is the internet so even if you had unicorns and butterfly‘s in the picture which some male artists are known to paint it doesn’t mean squat in gender.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 9:28pmTIFOSA
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 5:43pm
Not speechless, I stood by what I said. period. I suspect this is why the headline has: ‘Teamster’ because it’s an assumption.
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Let me give you a quick lesson here. Corroborating evidence – it is evidence that tends to support a proposition that is already supported by some evidence. In this case from circumstantial evidence. He is marching in a pro-union rally with other known union members, he is wearing a union Teamsters jacket, he is chanting pro-union and anti-teaparty monikers, and exhibiting a behavior that has been known to be exemplified (especially as of late) by members of the union and pro-union crowds. Basically it is strong enough evidence that the assumption would not only hold up in court but to deny it like you have only makes you look like a fool. Care to continue? Because you are in way over your head here.
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 10:22pmIt is kind of funny, but the unions did not allow blacks into their ranks until civil rights laws forced them to.
The sign bearer is right, its a fact that Hitler detested the unions. If you read your history though, you will find that Marx, Trotsky, Stalin and Kruschev loved the unions. How come they don’t carry signs bragging about that?
Report Post »theraven
Posted on February 27, 2011 at 10:48pmKIlroy is watching.
Report Post »cnsrvtvj
Posted on February 28, 2011 at 8:17amThe unions have always been thugs. In the past week alone there have been several incidents of violence. Maybe now the people will start to understand how the unions try to intimidate through violent means.
http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the Union Thug video
Report Post »ConstitutionalPatriot
Posted on February 28, 2011 at 10:07amThat is the Communist and Marxist party, also known as Union leaders that wants a Civil War, and when it happens the useful idiots known as union members will be thrown out as well. Wake up and see who is backing and walking with the union’s. They are socialist/marxist/communist’s. Don’t believe me, read their signs. Either you are a socialist and want the end of the Republic, or you are a useful idiot in all this. Make an honest decision.
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on February 28, 2011 at 12:00pmOne question. Who crossed the street to start the argument? If you cross the street, then you are the antagonist. If you then throw the first punch, shove, ect, then you are involved in assault. This is pretty cut and dry.
Report Post »DirectlyUnPCman
Posted on February 28, 2011 at 12:20pmThe video is clear on what happened. How this liberal fool, or any other who comes here, can say it was hate filled conservatives is beyond logic. You want the violence. But just be warned, you arent the only ones who will fight, and there are more of me than you. Dont be so cocky.
Report Post »happyboy
Posted on February 28, 2011 at 1:21pmThe attacker is a police officer. That is why the other cops did not arrest him. The COPS are on the side of the UNION THUGS now and are assaulting TEA demonstrators because they the COPS can get away with it.
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 1:31amA midget uncle fester. Pathetic.
Report Post »Deuteronomy22
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 9:17amMan I always here all of you rightwingers bragging about what you’ll do to the socialists but when push commes to shove, literally, you cry to the police. The problem is most of you are way too old to fight and in another decade or two will be a tiny minority.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 1:04pmannnnndd so the truth comes out. Breitbart dropped the whole issue because truth was that the guy made up the allegations. Whodathunkit ;)
Report Post »TheTeamster
Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:39pmTo all you Union hating people on this page. First, you all are entitled to your opinion. That’s what makes America great we can agree to disagree, but let me make it clear that it’s the Tea Party members that are inciting this kind of incident that took place at the California State Capital. They are the ones calling us Union members “greedy scum.” And yes when people are there shouting hateful words things get heated. But I know this young man personally and he is not a violent thug as you are all portraying him to be. His beliefs are strong just like yours and he and all of us Union Americans disagree strongly with the tactics that are being used to take away our freedoms. Richard is a young man who is a very respectful young man and no, he is not a skin-head as someone suggested.
If you watch the video closely the Tea Party member claims Richard hit him with his blow horn and choked him. Why is he lying? It was a push and no punches were thrown. Quit making a mountain out of a mole hill. I was taught at a young age if you instigate a fight and get your butt kicked you have nothing to cry about. If you don‘t want a confrontation then don’t go to rally’s and shout hateful words and expect there not to be some kind of confrontation. What you people want is confrontation all I see on this page is “civil war” and yet you call us thugs. The civil war conspiracy theories are all in your twisted minds and there is no threat being planned out on you or your way of life. Read the word and see how the devil spoke through Peter to try and persuade him not to go to the cross. The devil speaks through people and I believe the devil himself is speaking through your leadership. Yes, Glen Beck is a false prophet.
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