Dad of 6-Year-Old Who Died in Shooting Gives Heart-Breaking Interview Detailing the Moment He Learned of Tragic Death
- Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:19pm by
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An Aurora, Colo., man was awoken at 3 a.m. by a family member calling from New York to tell him his ex-wife had been shot. It was unknown at the time where his 6-year-old child was. Both were at the tragic shooting at the midnight showing of “The Dark Knight Rises” in Colorado. Then he learned of the tragic news.
(Related: See other stories on The Blaze relating to the ‘Dark Knight’ shooting)
“After three hours of sitting at the children’s hospital in Aurora, I found out my child was dead,” the unnamed man said to KDVR in an interview. “After being thrown in circles and circles and telling me you’ll be able to see her in just a moment, I found out my child is dead.”
After this comment, the man who was facing away from the camera goes silent, shaking his head. Watch the interview:
KDVR reports that the man became enraged at one point and had to be detained by police. His daughter was one of 12 killed in the shootings that occurred around 12:30 a.m. Reports indicate at least 59 were been injured in the scene thus far.
The man has not been admitted to the Aurora Medical Center to see his ex-wife allegedly because of a comment he had made.
“I need to make sure that she’s at least okay. I’ve lost the rest of my family,” he said.
When told the suspected gunman, 24-year-old James Holmes, was still alive, this man said, “Hopefully some people at least have some common courtesy and take care of somebody who has the willpower to murder an innocent child and other innocent people,” he said. “Hopefully the law enforcement has some kind of courtesy and some kind of basic justice.”
Fox News Insider posted a longer version of the heart-breaking interview. Watch it here:
This story has been updated to include more video and to clarify information.
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Comments (180)
Teufel Hunden
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:35pmThat is mild to what I would have done and said had I been given the run around about my child. These people are the victims of those who make gathering places such as these, gun free zones. In my State, chances are that 1 in 20 would have likely been armed and this would have ended badly for this turd.
US-First
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:44pmAnd who would the 1 in 20 have shot at in a dark packed theater full of smoke and panicking people? I support gun ownership and conceal carry. However, I don’t think it would make a difference in this case. This guy was firing for effect and didn’t have to aim.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:59pmHe was also wearing a bullet proof vest and a gas mask. He’d already tossed some kind of smoke grenade, so a marksman would have had to try for a head shot or maybe a leg shot. A leg shot probably wouldn’t have disabled him. Unless they could have gotten the back of the head, the gas mask could have protected him. Either way, any shot that would have been taken would have had to be lethal and 100% accurate. I’m not that good of a marksman. But guess who will be going to the range alot more now.
KOCHLEFFEL
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:20pmWhy is a 6 year old baby at a midnight show? He should have been in bed.
Report Post »But this is America, a totally screwed up society. And this is my opinion!!
ChuckJ
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:09pmNice blame the parents when some ass walks into a place and starts killing innocent people. I guess we should blame the threatre for not having more secured doors, or maybe the police officer who gave this loser the ticket awhile back for not shooting him on that scene. Put blame where it belongs. On this evil sob who decided to take people’s lives. There is no one else to blame.
Report Post »Kupo
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:14pmKOCHLEFFEL
Uh, why shouldn’t a 6 year old be up at midnight, especially during the summer time when they don’t have to get up for school? I would be far more concerned about a 6 year old watching a PG-13 movie, personally.
Report Post »mike119
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:57pmAnd who would the 1 in 20 have shot…..the guy shooting people.
Report Post »BuzzardSays
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:59pmSix year old children get excited about super-heroes like Batman. Taking this young child to the opening show is not really the issue. It is the fact that the love of the people grow cold. I wish they had waited and given this child his nightly rest, instead of this monster giving him his RIP.
Someday God will judge the living and the dead and those who don’t know Christ and disbelieve in Jesus will get a full hearing of why their turning up their noses at salvation is such a big deal.
Report Post »brooks1977
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 8:59pmI agree with you Koch. Decent parents would not drag a 6 year old out to a PG-13(barely) rated movie especially on of the new Batman movies. I have seen them and they are very violent and disturbing. This had nothing to do with a 6 year old being excited about a super hero. And regardless of a childs excitement children are not capable of making the best decisions that why they need parents to tell them no and offer guidence. This idiot mother simply wanted to fulfill here own need to be one of the first to see this movie probably with other idiot frinds of hers.
There is another story on yahoo right now about a couple who took their 4 month old baby and 4 year old to this theater also. We will get the details later I am sure about the shooter but it can probably be tied back to irresponsible parenting that probably started with small things like dragging an infant to a midnight movie.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:13pmFrom the reviews I’ve read on the psychotic violence in this movie, no 6 year old child should be seeing it. If you love seeing blood and sadism as an adult, I guess that’s between you and your god, but no responsible parent would allow a 6 year old child to view such trash. What the hell ever happened to our imaginations? Have we totally lost them? I was quite happy when John Wayne shot someone and they fell over dead, or clutched their heart and fell off their horse. I don’t need to see blood, brains and flesh flying everywhere as a bullet tears into someone. Sheesh!
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 11:13pmBlame the sicko……no one else, pleaseeeeeee………….it is horrible.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 1:05amWhy are you hating (note the poor grammar is intentional) someone because their SIN is different than your SIN? Hmmm, huh, why?
First off, how dare anyone say a parent is bad because they keep their child up past midnight. My husband has always worked the 2nd or 3rd shifts. If I didn’t keep my babies up past midnight, they would never see him, nor would he see them. So butt out!
The only time this was no longer feasible was when they started school, but during the summer they would almost always stay up past midnight. But, it really isn’t any of your business. This woman did not ask you for your parental guidance. She is in a hospital fighting for her life! And, at some point they are going to have to tell her about her 6-year old. You do not know this family’s situation and should not pass judgment as if your life has been an impeccable display of perfection.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 9:07amMy first thought was why was this child at a theatre at midnight? I see they’re divorced, maybe it’s a case of they each spoil the child when they have her. As a former police dispatcher, a lot more crime happens at night than in the day time. I would never allow any “child” under the age of 18, even accompanied by an adult, out after midnight.
Report Post »RRFlyer
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 9:23amColorado DOES Issue concealed weapons licenses. My wife and I each have one. Colorado is also Open Carry in most of the state. Even so most of us don’t carry our guns everywhere. I‘m sure that’s true in “your” state, wherever that may be. Just because we have concealed permits doesn’t mean everyone always carries their weapons everywhere. Although I am carrying mine more and more lately.
Report Post »IMAWAKENOW
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:00amAnd this wasn’t the youngest victem. Why would ANYONE have a small child out at midnight watching a violent movie like this? The shooter is the responsible party here but WTF are parents doing these days.
Report Post »little big man
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:25amUS-First
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:44pm
I would have been aiming at the muzzle flashes and the one wearing the gas mask.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:41amIf there was just one other gun in that theater this would not have happened.
Only a Joker like this killer would still state that taking guns away from people will save their lives. We see over and over again how just one armed civilian in an audience can save people’s lives. Everyone who needs to have a gun or desires to have one should be allowed. All insane and deadly gun control laws should be revoked. Let us save our lives.
Report Post »addie
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:45amThis father obviously didnt take his 6 year old daughter to the movie, his EX wife did. My heart goes out to this man for his loss!
I am sorry but I do not believe a 6 year old or the infant should be at a midnight movie, especially a violent movie. The funny thing is, the people who think there is nothing wrong with it are the same people who wonder why there is so much violence. 6 Year olds have no business going to this movie no matter what time the showing is.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:46amDEMOCRAT PARTY HAS THE BLOOD OF THESE PEOPLE ON ITS HANDS
The Democrat Party is a party of Death, a party of the Joker. They are responsible for the deaths of these people and the deaths of so many others who would be living today if Democrats did not outlaw our use of guns to protect our children and other loved ones. A 71 year old man last week saved the lives of many people in an Internet restaurant when he used his legally owned gun and shot two armed robbers.
Remember to vote this November against the Party of the Joke, the Democrat Party. Remember who it is that wants to save lives.
Report Post »Graycloud
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:54amI totally agree with you, US-First you must not know about training with a firearm. Some of us are xcops and can very easily pin point the dirt bag. This is why I think everyone that has a carry permit should be deputized, and also, what good is a carry permit if states and cities put restrictions on where you can carry. Remember one very important thing,it takes a lot to get a carry permit and nothing for some jerk to just shoot a gun into a crowd. I feel for all who lost loved ones.
Report Post »NukeHaze
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:54amI certainly feel for this man’s loss. Him being refused by the hospital to see his ex or his daughter is poorly worded and leaves ambiguous as to which he was referring to since he may still have considered his ex to be a part of his family. He should not have been turned away based on his remark. I have heard many more people make stronger, justified remarks concerning Hassan and the demented pervert that was beaten to death out of righteous anger when found molesting the Texas man’s daughter. A six year old little girl… I guess it really is true that in the middle of the Rockies, Colorado has been overwhelmed and made impotent from PC just as Laramie, WY, after certain events took place to draw extreme left wing nut jobs out from the coasts and into the heartland to try and do their attempts at marxist missionary conversions.
Sir, I grieve for you and your family and though I cannot possibly imagine the enormity of such a horrific tragedy executed against those who you feel the basic male (and real motherly female) human need to protect your family against all threats conceivable, please know that among so many others, our prayers are with you for the Comforter to stand at your side in this time of need.
Report Post »rc30
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 1:15pmJust think if 4 or 5 people had a gun to fight back. Yes he had armor. But if people would be able to arm them self. Maybe the gunmen would have think twice. When the cops got there he gave up with out any fight.
People who think we need more gun laws. Need too look at the number of guns in this country. All a ban would do is let evil people run wild. My hart goes to all the people who lost someone. For this man who did this I hope you rot in hell.
Report Post »Man-On-A-Mission
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 1:24pmYea…you would have been armed with a hand gun and him an assault riffle with body armor…but I’m with you. If I’d been there with my 9mm….I would have unloaded on his A$$……
Report Post »smokeysmoke
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 2:01pmWHY DOES THIS MAN DESERVE LIFE IN PRISON…. ….. t THE MOST HE SHOULD GET IS TWO WEEKS OF THE WORST TORTURE WE CAN OFFER, AND THEN WE EXECUTE…. I WILL GLADLY OFFER MY SERVICIES, IM SURE I COULD DO WELL ENOUGH TO MAKE HIM WANT TO DIE
Report Post »Oldbutnotsenile
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 2:22pmSummer, winter, spring or fall, no 6-year old needs to be out at midnight, much less in a packed theater. No caring mother would take their young child out at that time of night just to see a stupid premiere of a gross movie.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:45pmSeveral of the shooting survivors have already forgiven the killer. How many will thank the killer for taking their loved ones?
Report Post »WatchingAmericaDie
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 3:31pmTo KOCHLEFFEL: I’m with you 100% on this one.
Report Post »happygranny
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:18pmWhat was a six year old doing at midnight in a movie theatre showing such a film?????
Report Post »glennrocks
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:34pmProbably was just starting to develop schizophrenia. They lose all empathy for others.
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:11pmThis is the real reason America is dying, there is no empathy. Everything that happens in the country is the new political football to be thrown back and forth between the 2 extremes of the field.
Report Post »Things that used to bring the country together now divide it even further.
Instead of respect for the unfortunate victims and their families, they’re forgotten in the rush to get an agenda supporting label on the shooter. These are Americans who were shot, not convenient talking points for the left or the right.
Valuable
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:31pmThat is not true that people with schizophrenia lose all empathy for others. There are those with mental illness and in particular certain personality disorders where their ability to empathize can blunted at times. It is rare to find someone with true sociopathy/psychopathy.
Report Post »DcBs Blaze
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 11:17pmYou are both right and wrong. No offense to anyone here, schizophrenia is an extremely complicated disability. It varies with each person due to variations in each individual’s character. One of the most important variables, that affects the actions and thoughts of a individual with schizophrenia is other mental health issues also affecting the individual. From my experience, emotions such as empathy, etc. is definitely present in these individuals. At times the individual may lose the ability to distinguish reality; in these moments people with schizophrenia, as with individuals with other mental disabilities have a much more difficult time thinking beyond trying to discriminate what is reality and what they need to comfort or protect them self. Other factors that have profound effects on people with schizophrenia include: major life changes, appropriate use of medication, and misuse of legal and/or illegal drugs. Schizophrenia… maybe, maybe not. God bless all affected by this event!
Report Post »Dugobi
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:19pmWhy were there no armed citizenry in the theater?
Report Post »chips1
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:49pmIt’s owned by a democrat. Protectiny your life is the job of the government. Another crisis that Obama will jump on. He is just clearing a path for the muslim brotherhood.
Report Post »HisNameWasRobertPaulson
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 1:15amThe theater is owned by Cinemark, the single largest owner of movie theaters in the entire world. Most chain theaters have a policy of no weapons on site unless you are a member of law enforcement.
Report Post »Bitter_Klinger
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:18pmthe really ironic thing is the UN small Arms Treaty is being neogitated right now. I am sure in light of this random (?) tragedy, the masses will embrace this unpopular treaty now. I cannot help but think the Kenyan is grinning and fistbumping MOOchelle right now
Report Post »Truth Wins Every Time
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:16pmRadical Left-Wing & Registered Democrat, Obama Supporter, Occupy Black Bloc Member James E. Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater:
Sources: Net
White Punk Targeted U.S. Military Service members:
The false stigmas of right-wing Tea Party radicals, once again being shattered in Aurora Colorado.
A radical far Left-Wing and Registered Democrat and avid Obama Supporter, “Occupy Black Bloc Member James E. Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater Killing 12 And Wounding 50.
Report Post »Truth Wins Every Time
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:34pmhttp://www.examiner.com/article/occupy-black-bloc-member-james-e-holmes-shoots-up-aurora-co-movie-theater
Report Post »DRsnapper
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:03pmfunny yahoo wont let me post this wonder why
Report Post »conservativemom99
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:08pmReporters should stay away from these devastated people. She asked the stupidest questions of a man obviously in a state of utter shock and grief…
Report Post »Turn off the cameras and lead him to someone who can help him and leave him alone.
Honestly…
just disgusted with the lack of feeling and the hunger for a juicy story here….
honor007
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:48pmI couldn’t listen to the interview past the part where she asked him if his daughter was DEAD?? She seemed very cold and robotic like. Sad, really.
Report Post »RHO1953
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:47pmI agree. When I saw this on the tv today I instantly turned the station. I don’t think it proper to be interviewing a man in the throes of grief. It was wrong and I refuse to participate. I despise that reporter for intruding into that man’s grief.
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:14pmWHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS REPORTER. I wonder how she‘d feel if somebody stuck a mic in her face after her daughter was dead and asked so callously ’IS YOUR DAUGHTER DEAD?’. Now what, blah blah blah. The media have no shame.
Report Post »Windwalker
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 12:10amThis reporter must have learned her interview skills from Barbara “Wa Wa” Walters…same dumb insensitve questions, with obvious answers evan a kindergardner has more brains than to ask. The only thing she is missing is the Elmer Fudd speech elocution.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 7:15amHONOR007, My husband and I saw that on the news last night and we both thought the same thing. She did seem a bit fridged. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps, she was just trying to keep her composure but, my husband said she needs a swift kick of common sense in the a$$.
Report Post »honor007
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 12:50pmI just couldn’t get over how cold and DIRECT she was. I‘m glad to know I wasn’t the only one feeling shocked over her lack of compassion? wow?
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:59pmWell, this is going to piss some of you off but here goes.
I’m bored by the whole story. Bored.
It’s the same tune every single time. Well, to be fair, we rarely hear about it when it goes like it SHOULD have last night.
Every time, “oh it’s so sad”, “I feel bad for the families”, blah blah blah. I swear it’s the same quotes every time.
Then the News people start the Gun Control nonsense.
Then we hear more details about this loser than anyone would ever want to know. I do not care what this POS had for breakfast, OK? I don’t give a damn what his *name* is.
Both political sides start pointing fingers like a pair of 8 year olds. Beyond predictable.
Bored.
Here’s the hard cold truth;
– The World Is A Dangerous Place.
– Go Armed Or Be Killed.
– YOU ARE NOT SAFE.
Who got all those people killed? They did. Yup, I said it. They did.
Did they do anything to deserve being slaughtered? No (and my prayers *are* with these people. But.) They also did nothing to stop it.
Smoke cigs for 30 years, die.
Drive a 100 MPH every day, die.
Eat and drink until you’re 300 pounds, die.
Go unarmed, die.
It’s just a question of time and odds.
A hundred years ago two things would have stopped this guy
– A Moral Society. (And if that failed…)
– An Armed Society.
Quit pretending anyone is ever “safe” and settle for prepared. Then all these stories will turn out like the ones we never hear about; one dead perp, one reluctant hero
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:18pmI’m not pissed with your comment, and I appreciate your truth.
Report Post »apbt55
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:24pmI agree, neither I or my wife leave home unarmed and at home usually armed, we live in the sticks and need to protect the animals from predators.
Report Post »Windwalker
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 11:24amOne of the biggest mistakes made by people who attended this event was trusting anyone assuring this theater was a “gun free zone” or a gun free anything. Witness the ‘no guns allowed in Chicago’ law stupidity…much like New York City and Washington D.C., a little 6 yr. gold girl selling lemonade in Chicago was shot and killed by a stray bullet. The cliche “when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns” not only rings true but is a fact. This evil human being knew exactly what he was doing and he knew how vulnerable the vitims were. The sick part of this he will hire a legal gun who will plead temporary insanity due to his economic state or whatever ‘state’ mental or otherwise he can claim as an excuse for this horrific crime. Justice will not be served with this murderer as it was with Timothy McVey. Colorado hasn’t had an execution in 35 years. Research Oklahoma….quite a different story.
Report Post »lbk
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:50pmMy question. I want to know who sold him all of these weapons? What web site or gun dealer sold him this stuff. Someone, somewhere had to become suspicious of these purchase. Someone, somewhere had to notice, hear or see something. Clearly, to be able booby trap your apt. the way he did, SOMEONE SAW SOMETHING!!!! If you sold, saw or heard anything, WHY DID YOU NOT REPORT THIS.
Report Post »Dugobi
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:28pmSo! All things are equal, just that some are more equal than others. We can profile in a sporting store in the presence of legal activity, but we cannot profile on the street with all indications that illegal activity is in progress.
Report Post »Highland
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:33pmIt doesn’t matter who sold him the weapons. If I bought a kitchen knife and went out and stabbed 10 people with it, would it matter whether I got the knife from Walmart, Kmart, Target or the local grocery store?
Report Post »AffirmationChick
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:43pmThe guns used aren’t out of the ordinary, nor would them being purchased at the same time be considered cause for alarm. This is especially true in this day and age when people are feeling threatened by loonies like this and the government, meaning they’re buying a lot of weapons.
We live in a society where we’re trying to stamp out death, and everyone‘s purposely shredding the memo that that’s not possible. Accidents happen. Tragedies happen. People die. Young, old, and in between. They die from doing stupid things, and they die while doing something as normal as going to a movie. It’s horrible for those involved, but everyone always jumps to “we should have been able to stop this death.” No, sometimes you can’t.
Report Post »fobama
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:50pmThey should murder this creep that did this to these people, that poor kid, an what he is dealing with right now is un thinkable..
Report Post »facilitiesmgr
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:38pmIt wouldn’t be murder if this person is put to death. It would be punishment for wrongdoing. He would be the recipient of justice meted out.
The Bible says “the government doesn’t bear the sword in vain.”
Report Post »DDD
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:50pmThe reporter is a moron. Does she realize how unfeeling she sounds when she asks the poor father if his daughter is dead. So matter-of-factly – like, “do you like mustard on your hotdog?” The media sucks. If anything ever happened to me and a reporter came up to ask a question (any question), they better duck!
Report Post »Jamea1754
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:34pmMay God bless him and keep him and bring him through this.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:32pmYea obviously god really loves this guy…
Report Post »Altair
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:18pmLaw enforcement has the perpetrator. Give him a speedy trial, ended by Saturday.
Burn the bastard at the stake on the 50-yard line at Mile-High Stadium at 3:00 PM local time Sunday afternoon.. Nationally televised.
People go off the deep end because they don’t really fear the consequences. Hassan (Ft. Hood) is doing fine, on extended vacation, drawing about $115,000/year military pay. The Gabrielle Giffords shooter lives in airconditioned comfort. Etcetera, all across the USA.
Burn the bastard. Slowly. Publicly. Within a week of the atrocity he committed. Maybe in the crowd will be a few who have second thoughts next time they get funny ideas.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:38pmsounds like something an arab would do. and i mean, look how well public executions have worked for them!
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:57pm@ALTAIR
Something tells me you’re new to western civilization – that’s ok – let me give you a quick rundown of why that is an awful idea.
It’s paradoxical for a society to proclaim they respect human life and then turn around a punish criminals in the way you describe.
Publicizing executions dulls the public to the concept of murder, arguably thereby creating a more violent culture.
Someone who is mentally deranged acts without the concept of repercussion. It doesn’t matter how harsh you make those repercussions – to their perspective they wont get caught and the penalties don’t apply.
Hopefully that gets you started. Welcome to Civilized America and the Western World!
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:23pmI think going back to public hangings would help. Some people have become sissies.
Report Post »kellyann62
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:17pmGod Bless that young man…..My heartfelt prayers out to him and all of the others that are suffering. Having said that – I thought the reporter did a horrible job with that interview and was, what I thought, very callous and unsympathetic. It was hard to listen to.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:33pmWhy didn’t god bless him to begin with?
Report Post »buck762
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:57pmIt’s obvious he has not blessed cesium with a brain
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:23pmwas good enough to get me a PhD at least
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:27pmAlso lets say you’re absolutely correct. Mr. sky wizard didn’t bless me with a very good brain. I would concede that is true being that I was dumb enough to sacrifice 6 years of my life in graduate school…will never get those years back that’s for sure and now I have to pay off all this debt. So what did I do to deserve such a non blessed brain? Do you think it could be because I was raised a Jew?
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:48pmCESIUM, Brag much??
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:11pm@ hatchet… It’s amusing on here when “fundies” accuse me of being “without thought” when I hold a degree in “thought.” But I am really not arguing against me being stupid. I really do not view myself as highly intelligent. However, if this really is the case and like Buck suggests I was not actually blessed with true intelligence unlike him as he alludes to, why would god limit me and not him? What did I do to be born unblessed? What if I wasn’t born american and starving in Africa.. What did I do to be that unblesssed? I don’t get it, I must really be stupid!
Report Post »ChuckJ
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:23pmCesium, where did the “Jew” state,comment come from? The orthodox Jews I know are all educated people and hold the Lord close to their hearts. If you do not believe in the Lord or His Son Jesus Christ then that is your right but making remarks like that when someone is just trying to comfort a victim of such trajedy doen’t make you dumb. It just means your an insensitive douche. And for the record my family and I are praying for the victims and their families.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 8:23pmCESIUM:
Report Post »One of your posts bragged about your PhD and yet your last post stated, “I must really be dumb”. In other words, it took you 6 years of college to achieve stupidity. “Here’s your sign”!!!!
Cesium
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 8:51pm@Chuck.. I am not a douche.. I‘m highly upset about this and I feel horrible for this guy and I’m going to stay that way.. I just am not going to pretend praying is going to do anything other than self soothe. People don’t understand that when they say they are “praying” for them it is actually selfish and “self soothing” You prey for this guy and get up and it all feels better.. Fine pray! why tell us you’re doing it?! You want a cookie?! good for you! Fine my prayers are with him too! “please god, since you failed to protect this man from severe emotional pain and loss that left him in ruins, I pray that you can now intervene to help him feel good about his life someday” Oh what’s that? you can intervene?
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 11:27pmCesium – Getting a PhD doesn’t make you intelligent or better than anybody else.
Report Post »forthepeople
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:15pmA 6 year old after midnight at at movie theatre ? I cannot relate ?
Report Post »SquareHead
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:22pmI was thinking the same thing. I would never allow my six year old to see that movie anytime of the day!
This does not mean that it is the Dads fault that this nut job did what he did, even though chances are he will feel it is for the rest of his life. Nevertheless; my prayers go out to the Father and the family of this girl. I pray that God will strengthen him and comfort him through his tragic loss.
Report Post »Dearth of Humor
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:22pmThat‘s because you’re an idiot! Summer, school’s out, with parent.
Report Post »SolitudeBliss
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:58pm@Dearth of Humor – Even in Summertime, a 6 yr old should not be out of bed, much less out of home, at that time. Still very sad that this happened
Report Post »conservativemom99
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:11pmDon’t judge…it’s summer…if this hadn‘t happened you wouldn’t be asking that. They would be out having fun with their parent, seeing a blockbuster movie after midnight…how cool is that to a 6-year-old? I’ll tell ya…COOL!!!
Report Post »brooks1977
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:11pmHumor, you are the idiot. Wether school was out or not I would not drag my 6 year old daughter out to stand in line hours for a movie she shouldn’t be watching in the first place. I don’t blame either of the parents for what happened, but maybe if there lives didn’t revolve around things like being one of the first in line to see a movie maybe both of them will still be alive.
I know this will probably piss several of you off since most people today could not imagine a life without thier Ipods, Ipads, Youtube, or my personal favorite addiction of choice FACEBOOK!. The idea of waiting till the crowds thin out and maybe not dragging your 6 year old to a PG-13 rated movie(barely) will always seem more abnormal and wierd than needing constant entertainment.
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:32pmTruly depressing and sad for all the people in Aurora. If I had a 6 yr old however, I don’t think I would want to be out at midnight for a movie and getting home at 2 or 3 in the morning. Not for any movie. It can wait for the daylight hours when risk for anything happening is just as high, but I got a better eye shot at everyone coming and going even standing in line or watching the parking lot as we waited. This coward, shooter waited for the darkness outside and had the dark theater inside to aid his psychotic actions. Sometimes I think it is the adults who want to see these films more than the kids do and drag the kids to them anyway. I see it all the time when a big movies opens or some stupid video game is being released on the news. The kids are already asleep waiting with their parents. Little ones should be home in their beds sleeping at that hour. The Dad of the 6 yr old has a right to question, to be angry, and to have justice done for all involved, but it is Colorado, so it is very much a tossup. He will probably not get the death penalty.
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:59pmFOURTH I was thinking the same thing
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:25pmRight on BROOKS1977!
Report Post »swamp_donkey
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:32amyeah lets find faul with th victims , seems common wisdom wit you pussbags , is that why trayvon was at fault for being shot
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:12pm…
Report Post »In my opinion, Soros and the occupy freaks are behind these violent acts.
They want to destroy everything in America. They want to instill fear and wreak havoc.
They want the collapse of the American culture, businesses, family values, religion, and morals.
TheWinchester77
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:37pmYeah, not too sure you’re onto anything there, Bub. Let’s try not to sound like nut-jobs ourselves shall we? These were the isolated actions of a sick, evil individual. Liberals will simply use it as fodder in their war against the Second Amendment. Stick to reality rather than conjecture and your arguments will sound more convincing.
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:38pmTHEWINCHESTER77, These are different times we’re living in, LEADNOTFOLLOW may be on to something.
Report Post »DrunkGOP_Hack
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:12pmThese rodents, and gutless hid your face punks!
Real men!
Kill babies, children, mothers. You opened a can and you can’t put a lid on this.
Report Post »StepUpSpeakOut
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:08pmIf justice truly prevailed, the offender would be marched right out into a public area and hanged this afternoon. No need to identify him or ask the question “why?” He did the crime, he was caught red-handed, and he needs to pay with his life…NOW.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:17pmexactly
Report Post »momrules
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:08pmMy heart goes out to this man. The anger he is feeling, the pain he is feeling is so raw. May God and friends be with him now.
Report Post »woodyee
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:55pmOCCUPY / Black Bloc has cleansed a page from their website, a page where they claimed ownership of James Holmes, the Aurora murderer.
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire; there have been several references made on this site to stories about same appearing in England and the US. All references to Holmes as Occupy /BlackBloc have been removed.
Please copy and past on other related threads -THANK YOU!
Report Post »woodyee
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:09pmUPDATE –
As evidence of prior existence, the page is referenced here –
http://occupywallst.org/forum/colorado-disaster/
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:24pmJames E Holmes
Report Post »1690 Paris St, Apt 10
Aurora, CO 80010-2918
James E. Holmes is 24 year old he is from San Diego CA. The suspected Colorado movie mass murderer was a loner and graduate school dropout who dyed his dark hair red in homage to Batman’s arch-nemesis the Joker. Demented gunman James Holmes declared “he was the Joker, enemy of Batman” after his arrest for the killing spree during a midnight showing of “The Dark Knight Returns,” said NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly.
Shooter James Holmes Targets Cops Who Respond to His Aurora Apartment With Bombs. The apartment of the man suspected in the mass shooting at a Denver-area screening of the latest Batman movie is “booby-trapped” with an array of sophisticated material, the local police chief said Friday. Speaking at the scene where police were working to gain access to the apartment, Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said: “His apartment is booby-trapped. We are trying to determine how to disarm the flammable or explosive material. We could be here for hours or days. The pictures are fairly disturbing. It looks very sophisticated, how it’s booby-trapped. It could be a very long wait.”
Bill Warner private investigator at http://www.wbipi.com/
Posted by BILL WARNER at 5:51 AM
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July 20, 2012 – Posted by pibillwarner | BLACK BLOC TERRORISTS, OCCUPY BLACK BLOC LUNATIC FRINGE | Occupy Black Bloc Member James Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater Killin
Altair
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:26pmhttp://cheatersflorida.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/update-occupy-black-bloc-member-james-e-holmes-shoots-up-aurora-co-movie-theater-killing-12-and-wounding-50/
Apparently, the movie itself referenced OWS prominently as the bad guys. Sort of the flip side of Micheal Moore movies. Which caused no mayhem from the Tea Party.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:54pmApparently the FBI IS aware of this Bill Warner. http://youtu.be/eqZlR4ajfuI Seems legit to me.
Report Post »DoomsdayProphet
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:51pmExecute this murderer. Slowly. Make him learn show others what will happen.
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:49pmMy heart is aching for this father that has lost his child and for all the victims and families. It is so hard to believe that anyone can have that much hate in his heart to kill others but they do.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:28pmI’m not sure it is hate, but just an emotional detachment from society. He told the police that “he was Joker, enemy of Batman,” and had dyed his hair red. Clearly delusional.
Report Post »He should be shown no mercy for killing innocent children, and grown-ups, for that matter.
SquidVetOhio
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:46pmMy God. I have 5 children. I can’t imagine what this man is going through. I hope he knows that his 6 year old child is in the loving arms of Christ right now. This poor man, I will pray for him.
Report Post »buck762
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:03pmAs will I and my family
Report Post »Tigress1
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:38pmMy condolences to all the families of those involved in this horrible, senseless event.
Report Post »Highland
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:34pmWhy would anyone take a 6-year-old (or a 3-month-old, for that matter) to a midnight showing of a violent film?
Report Post »whatthecrazy
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:47pmEven tho this is America and we are suppose to be able to do as we want i think your question is valid.I personally would not got if i had to take a child unless of course if it were a childs program.
Report Post »OUTRIDER WRITER
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:53pm@HIGHLAND
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Poor judgment.
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Whom among us has no regrets? Just so sad.
phillipwgirard
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:59pmI ask the same thing, very irresponsible, and to top it off the movie was rated pg13, I wouldn’t let my children nor would I take them any where at midnight, though I feel for the children, I do not feel for the parents,
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:17pm@ OUTRIDER: No offense intended but I think taking a six year old to see a midnight movie (regardless of content) represents an utter lack of judgement as opposed to poor judgement.
Report Post »gryffn
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:43pmExactly! When my son was 6 – or 8 or 10, they only reason he would be awake at midnight is if the house were on fire!
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:43pmI’ve heard that baby sitters are expensive these days, so I guess taking babies everywhere, anytime of the day or night is justifiable. NOT!!!
Report Post »woodyee
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:29pmOCCUPY / BLACK BLOC Believe Holmes is one of their own.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-black-bloc-member-james-holmes-shoots-up-au/
READ through the comments.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:33pmYes .. I have this …
http://www.examiner.com/article/occupy-black-bloc-member-james-e-holmes-shoots-up-aurora-co-movie-theater
To this father .. I am so sorry for the loss of your daughter … may God give you and your family and all others peace. I don’t blame this father for becoming enraged .. who would not.
Report Post »theprofessor1031
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:46pmInteresting. That page is no longer found on the occupy site.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:49pmPage already deleted…
Report Post »momrules
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:09pmWOODYEE………your site has been deleted.
CATB………………yours is still there.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:10pmThey probably posted it, let the info disseminate, then deleted it. Now they will say the “baggers” are blaming Occupy? Just thought since that seems to be the game of left.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:29pmI tried to save it in my favorites. I know the photos won’t show up but the guy who posted this is Bill Warner. Here’ s the first part of the story..
UPDATE Occupy Black Bloc Member James E. Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater Killing 12 And Wounding 50.
Friday, July 20, 2012
“The Dark Knight Rises,” the third and final installment in director Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy, pushes the ideological envelope even further than before. It’s impossible not to feel Nolan’s disgust at Occupy Wall Street a movement the film paints as both incoherent and violent courtesy of a class warfare villain armed with nuclear weaponry.
A lone gunman dressed in riot gear and wearing a gas mask burst into a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., at a midnight showing of the Batman film “The Dark Knight Rises” and opened fire, killing at least 12 people and injuring at least 50.
The suspect, James Holmes, 24, of Aurora, was caught by police in the parking lot of the Century 16 Movie Theaters, nine miles outside Denver, after police began receiving dozens of 911 calls at 12:39 a.m. MT. Police said the man appeared to have acted alone.
Witnesses in the movie theater said Holmes crashed into the auditorium through an emergency exit about 30 minutes into the film, set off a smoke bomb, and began shooting. Holmes stalked the aisles of the theater, shooting at random, as panicked movie-watchers in the packed auditorium tried to escape, witnesses said.
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