FBI Says Gang Infiltrators Stealing Military Weapons For Sale On U.S. Streets

The FBI is concerned not only that gangs are infiltrating the military, but gang members are funneling military ordnance to criminal associates on the streets– including high explosive artillery rounds.  FBI Says Gang Infiltrators Stealing Military Weapons For Sale On U.S. Streets

The problem, according to Military.com, is that recently the FBI has come across a number of instances in which:

“Gangs are acquiring highpowered, military-grade weapons more frequently, according to the latest National Gang Intelligence Center (NGIC) Report. And FBI and law enforcement officials suggest gang members — both enlisted and those working at military bases as contract civilians — may be funneling the firearms to their street-level counterparts.

So it appears criminal syndicates — that include prison gangs, bikers, and notorious Latin gang MS-13 — are getting their hands on a variety of military-grade weapons including rifles, grenades,  body armor, and even artillery rounds, according to the latest NGIC report released.

On two separate occasions thus far in 2011, live artillery rounds have been found in the homes of people affiliated with the military, including one who was a known gang member. These projectiles can be easily converted into improvised explosive devices (IEDs), such as those that have plagued the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But even small arms — which are strictly accounted for on base and have their numbers checked multiple times throughout the day — have appeared in the hands of street thugs, or been intercepted during an attempted sale.

In July, for example, 27 AK-47s were stolen from a warehouse at Fort Irwin in California, and sources told military.com that gang members were suspected in that theft. Fort Irwin officials have refused to comment on whether the base hires parolees, though it is also suspected that this may have been common practice, as the army base is in a desolate part of the California desert, and hiring for day-to-day maintenance jobs poses its own challenges.

More important than what has been stolen so far is how widespread is the infiltration of gangs in the military.

The  FBI’s NGIC has identified members from 53 gangs who are serving in the military. According to the NGIC, “members of 37 of those gangs — including the notorious 18th Street and Mara Salvatrucha (MS) 13 — have infiltrated the Army. Twenty-eight gangs have been identified within the Marine Corps’ ranks and five in the Air Force.”

It is believed the army has the biggest problem with gang infiltration of any of the U.S. military services, but some analysts have suggested other services may be skewing their reporting to ignore gangs in their ranks.

The problem of gang infiltration of the military itself, however, is not a new phenomenon, and may be receiving outsized attention in the media because of its ability to capture public attention.

As you can see from this 2006 news story (below), there have been reporters sounding the alarm about gang infiltration of the military for years, and so far the effects have been very limited :

To put things into context, if the FBI assessment that there are 1.4 million active gang members in the United States is correct, that would mean  about .5% of the total U.S. population belongs to a gang. Given that there are officially 1.4 million members of the armed forces, listing a few incidents of gang violence tied to those in the army would not seem to indicate a widespread epidemic as the FBI report and some media outlets suggest.

That said, gang infiltration of the army will receive continued attention because of the high stakes involved. The prospect of even relatively few gang infiltrations of the U.S. military is alarming because of the critical role the armed forces play in our defense at home and abroad, and the possibility of mass casualty incidents if certain weapons find their way into criminal hands.

But media outlets must be held to account and remain careful not to unfairly malign our men and women in uniform because of the actions of a tiny minority, while each day we see the honorable, indispensable, and tireless efforts of the U.S. armed forces at work.

(h/t Business Insider)

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  • Centralsville
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:52pm

    Gangs are a natural outgrowth of the breakdown of the American family and fatherhood brought on us by the courts and feminism. As we become a nation of bastards gangs will rise.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:11pm

      I so agree. Being a thug doesn’t make you a man, it just means you have testosterone. that’s how communism expects to ruin a nation, and if you read Agenda 21, there are all kinds of examples of giving women and youth more rights than men. As a woman, I find the feminizing of our men deplorable. I don’t want a “sensitive” man, or a man who just has a chip on his shoulder like a thug. I want a man who will stand by me, support me (financially, if even modestly, and emotionally – by being the strong one). I’m lucky in that I found mine.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:36pm

      Gangs frequently provide a “family” for troubled youth. You on the left may take a bow.

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:39pm

      Hmm…the country is headed towards collapse, Communists, anarchists and now gangs armed with military weapons are going to be roaming around…….I’m thinking that the population of this country is going to start dropping very soon…….The cities are probably going to become deathtraps.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:40pm

      loriann12

      I heard it said of Al Capone & later in another piece I head it said about the mafia guys in general.

      They are not the smartest. They are not the strongest. They are just the most violent.

      Average IQ & average build combined with much violence will make you come out on top in a dog eat dog world. All good people have to do to ensure it, is to do nothing.

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    • quicker
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:54pm

      Just some of Obama`s people arming up for his Civilian Army .

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:19pm

      This Is Just A Lie To Cover Up The Fast And Furious Act Of Treason Committed by Eric Holder

      Now all the weapons given to the Mexican War Lords are now being sold on the streets of America.

      If you get shot in your guts next year remember it was Obama.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:28pm

      The US Army Is Leaving $Trillion Of Weapons In Iraq.

      Just wait till these weapons start to appear in our city streets. All of our Black Cities will begin to look like Mogadishu. Whites have been buying little rifles and and single shot shotgun, Blacks will be getting machine guns, armored personnel carriers, tanks, Javelins, SLMs and RPGs. ACORN will really be able insure Obama get elected next year.

      Hot TEA cannot stand up against RPGs and Javelins.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:47pm

      This is a huge problem for Americans. With the war over in Iraq these gang members are coming home and will be ‘unemployed.’
      I personally guarantee you, many of them look at the Zetas as role models. Need I say more?

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    • SLOWBIDEN
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:49pm

      If they whould have waited Eric Holder would have done it for them

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 7:14pm

      Centralsville…..
      Yes…you are correct on that.
      Its of course an outgrowth of the ‘civil rights’ mentality of the 50′s-60′s. Those programs, leftist/activists judges, militant ethnic groups, athiests, communists, Cloward-Piven, Sharpton, etc. This is where we are now because of these anti-Americans. Decades of teaching socialism….of teaching hatred of Whites, on and on it goes.

      I do not expect this to end peacefully. It is too-far gone. I hope all realize that the un-constitutional anti gun laws (anti CC) in effect will have to be disregarded when the time comes to protect you family.

      That anyone could possibly NOT see the hatred of this Pres for our heritage/country is unbelieveable to me. Believe me, there are people who still want Obama in office. Are they THAT dumb to realize the ramifications for themselves and their families?

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    • toto
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:46pm

      Anyone who has ever been in a gang or is associated with a gang should be persona non grata in the military. If a law is needed then pass the damn law.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:44am

      Then why doesn’t the FBI do something about it? Get all these gang members out and put a stop to it. Or is the DOJ and the WH promoting it? It has to be really easy to separate these gang members from the regular troops. At least I hope it is. How can we determine the difference? Tats? Gang Affiliation? Military rank? I think it’s time to get rid of every gang member in the US Military.

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:43am

      It’s not just that but we are idiots for allowing foreigners and Islamic barbarians to enter the military.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:01am

      Gangsta types in the military stick out like sore thumbs. Inside source at Ft Irwin tells me it was military guys who took the AK’s. Our military is us and we are them, they are simply a subculture of us. Society is crumbling at large and was getting pretty bad in the ranks when I retired 10 years ago. I can’t imagine how much more its out of control. The values of those being brought in even though they are volunteers is substandard to those when I joined in 81. Most kids in the service today come from broken homes, yea thats a big difference and a problem in the larger scheme of things because they’ve lacked guidance and no one has the guts to give them guidance without worry of retribution through workplace violence which exists in the Mil just as much if not more in Civilian life. I found after some years passing along it was getting harder to communicate military values to these people, I believe my being White was a major factor as the ranks got more diverse, the idea then pops in their heads that they own the place and your the hold over from another era that was racist to people like them. The feeling is Get out of our way, don’t you know you have no place or authority to give orders….even though you clearly out rank them. I dont know how many false accusations of racism lobbed at me that went no where and how many times the race card was pulled, but it was enough for me to hang my hat in disgust at what I was seeing happen inside to the armed forces.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:29am

      American have a Constitutional right to purchase those weapon. The fact that they have to purchase them in an illegal manner is the crime. 2CD AMENDMENT IS ABSOLUTE

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  • rafa2design
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:49pm

    No offense to any of our soldiers but I guess it’s inevitable ever since requirement and standards to get into the military have dropped.

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    • john34287
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:20pm

      Do you have any reference material to back up your claim as to the requirements and standards have been lowered to enlist into our great military.

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    • goofyfoot2001
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:41pm

      In fact only about one out of twenty candidates get into the marines. They have limited slots and can be quite selective. Er….ya fool.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:42pm

      rafa2design

      Requirements vary with the year. At the height of Iraq they lessened. With the bad economy they considerably tightened.

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    • whosafraidofspookydude1
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:15pm

      easy from 2005 the army was able to waive felony just like a fat recruit getting a waiver for be img overweight ….just saying

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    • chips1
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:24pm

      John Kerry!!! Colon Powell!!! Lee Harvey Oswald!!!!!!

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    • Halloween
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 9:57pm

      The standards have been lowered to get in. You don’t believe me, you have not been in. Get your heads out of your fourth point of contact and listen up!

      You do not need a high school diploma to enlist.
      Call the recruiter and get the answering machine which is also in “Spanish”.
      Once you are in, you will see how affirmative action gets all the wrong people promoted.
      You do not need to be a U.S. citizen to enlist.

      That will be all! Go back to your beer and sports and live the Liberal dream as ignorant sheep yet to be slaughtered. Next formation will be O dark thirty….dismissed!

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    • Halloween
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:04pm

      JOHN34287– No reference material needed. If you doubt us Combat Veterans, you must be in love with the government and believe it should (the government) be increased in size. No go back to your PlayStation before you mom finds you got on her computer.

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    • john34287
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:03pm

      Halloween, GFYS………….It was a simple question….no need for your dip **** response. Have a son that recently returned after a one year deployment. Again, I repeat GFYS

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  • Need to be FREE
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:46pm

    This has been said for many years. Even Hollywood has made movies and TV shows about it. Gangs are like fleas and cockroaches, hard to get rid of if you let them grow.

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    • Jus-sayin
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 7:01pm

      FAST AND FURIOUS II…..Migrating to a community near you.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 8:09pm

      In fact, experts on the possibility of a coming societal/economic collapse have been stating for years now that if you live in a city, you are living in an area where life will become untenable outside of the few gangs that may survive there for a while. Food will be unavailable (most stores only hold a three day supply, and if they cannot be re-supplied they will be ransacked very quickly). If you live in a city, make plans NOW for a way to get out of there in one piece and know where you can move to for relative safety over the long run.
      But know this: the locusts in the city will not stay there. When THEY run out of food, they’ll come looking for others to take it from…be prepared, be armed, BE FREE.

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  • B-Neil
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:43pm

    Weapons are getting out becouse the Powers thet be want them out. Just like the two car louds of weapons thet appeared in the housing project in Chicago. Like the guns thet went accross the boarder, it happens all the time. They just got cought on this one. Its comming folks. Don‘t let it cross your mind that it is’nt. The Powers thet be want an Armed Revolution so they can breakdown the country and change the Government. There only stumbling block is the American Spirit fueld by Freedom. CARRY ON McDUFF p.s. MARRY CHRISTMAS to all Americans, even th atheists.

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    • mils
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:53pm

      True.
      Who is watching the store and the books as to how much of anyting we have? People need to be held responsible.
      There will be an armed conflict onour streets.
      When we find an active gang member in the military, they should be sent to gitmo..no questions.
      If there is a conflict, hoping it’s around washington and the NE…

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  • JohnnyMidknight
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:41pm

    Gangs? Don’t you mean Eric Holder and Fast & Furious is what is releasing these weapons? Well, they sold guns to Mexico, so what makes you think they didn’t do the same with the military to gangs here?

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    • Wolf
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:45pm

      Did they sell the guns to Mexico, or to the drug dealers in Mexico? (Not that I‘m sure there’s a distinction, but we gotta be clear about this, you know.)

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  • Thors Hammer
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:34pm

    “Lovin” No, the actual quote is ‘Love of money is the root of all evil.’ When someone loves $$ more than his/her fellow man, and would do anything to attain it, nothing good ever comes of it.
    However, when people with money use it to help their neighbors, that’s the right thing to do with your money. Money is not bad; worship of it is.

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  • Centralsville
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:34pm

    Gang members, like homosexuals, should not be allowed in the military. We don’t need that trash in our military.

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  • bullcop0411
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:32pm

    This is what happens when you lower the recruitment standards…..c r a p in c r a p out. Did they really expect anything less? There is no integrity in the military leadership and it starts from the top down. Generals of all branches, including my beloved Corps, have turned a blind eye to the denigration of the military in the name of a damned promotion.

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:14pm

      Question:
      How do they get in? Why do we take them? I guess the standards really have been lowered?

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    • Sgt_Rock
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:48pm

      Answer; waivers…recruiters will get waivers for certain background issues. Say some fool is a gang member, but has never been convicted of anything. I didn’t say arrested “Convicted” He can get a waiver on the arrest and get in. It doesn’t mater that the case never went to trial because a witness was murdered, they don’t dig that far. The background checks are a joke. There is a ban on gang tattoos, but if they are in a place that will be covered, or you can get a waiver, you can get by that reg as well. You can get a waiver or exemption for damn near anything. There is freakin’ graffiti in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and it is a disgrace. But I have also know soldiers who had been gang members and the military saved their lives, so there is a positive side. The reality is that the hoodlums generally stick out, and as an NCO or Officer, if you know what to look for you’ll see them.

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    • bullcop0411
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:49pm

      Yes, the standards have been dropped. I served in the USMC in the 90′s. Came back in the USAFR and went to Iraq this time. I was in Kirkuk with mostly Army folks and it looked like a gang recruiting station. I know I saw gang tats( I was a cop for 14 years) and saw the gang signs being thrown too. Educationally, the standards are incredibly low. Most of the kids I ran into/worked with could not complete a sentence using correct grammar and most could not even spell. It was all about putting numbers in for the recruiters…sad because they allowed it to happen, again, in the return for a promotion. It is one thing for our military to be all volunteer but to allow gang members…known gang members displaying new tattoos for their gangs into the military is…well, disgraceful.

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    • whosafraidofspookydude1
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:24pm

      Kentucky pat 2005 began alot of crazy stuff. stoploss in military ,recruiting stats where on news nightly navy offered 20k to join reserve I myself took asvab test for warrant officer in army scored it I was 33in the would‘ve trained me at that age not normal wouldn’t you say and 15kI signing bonus….and I have a few assault on record…truth is they didn’t expect many returns from Fallujah.

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:13am

      Thank all of you for your service and clarification on this issue! Wishing each of you a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!!!

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  • BO_Bill
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:32pm

    Gangs represent the power projection model for humans whose ancestors evolved in tropical environments, in the absence of gunpowder. In this type of human, bodily strength has been the primary determinant of their Natural Aristocracy, and breeding patterns. Power is projected from these populations by young males who make their decisions based on race, or tribe. See Los Angeles.

    In contrast, humans whose ancestors evolved in the presence of seasons and gunpowder have been guided through the ages under a Natural Aristocracy determined by Talent, and Virtue. Talent being necessary to accurately direct energy. Virtue being necessary to lead men capable of accurately directing energy.

    Read Thomas Jefferson on The Natural Aristocracy. As time moves forward observe the current racial divisions within the police departments and military become more defined. The divisions are biological and planned, by a people who are more clever than they are smart.

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    • encinom
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:51pm

      what a load of pure racist BS

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 8:15pm

      Please note this is the one and only time I agree with ENCINOM on anything.

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    • M1A2_Tanker
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 3:13pm

      This is Culture not Racism, Learn to read ENCINOM.

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  • FANGS
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:32pm

    No doubt, Eric Holder and Obama are shoulder deep in this scandal.Obama’s civilian army. Gear up people, this is the next step in the protest crowd. Obama wants his civil war. I hope everyone has done their homework. The Unions Democrats and the leftist news media must be your first concern. Study them, study where they sleep.

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    • ICanComment
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:51pm

      Fangs said, “No doubt, Eric Holder and Obama are shoulder deep in this scandal.”

      Before I speak, don’t get me wrong – this is not an attack on you. I disagree – I absolutely doubt that the administration has anything directly to do with gang members being in the military and/or pilfering of weaponry. Maybe by inaction or lax background checks, but I don‘t think it’s deliberate. Could I be wrong? Sure, of course.

      As far as all of the individual things you spoke of, such as his referring to a civilian army, civil war, and protesters getting violent, these are all things that have been supported by various levels of factual evidence. Should we be mindful of escalating tension between Americans? Yes, absolutely. However, we all look really ill informed when we speak quickly about the administration being responsible for _everything_. It’s kind of like “I blame Bush for the weather.“ ”I blame Obama for gang members in the military.” Huh? Nah, I don’t buy it. Violent conflict coming, though? I really, really hope we‘re wrong and that we’ll be laughing at ourselves in ten years, but unfortunately it seems all too plausible. Things are definitely getting ugly out there.

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  • Dismayed Veteran
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:30pm

    When I went through Officer’s Basic School, we weren’t issued magzines for our M-16A1. We got 2 at the firing range and had to turn 2 back in. We had to to turn our magazine pouches upside down to prove they were empty. Our bayonet and M16 were locked in the armory over night. In 1970, the Army was loaded with gang members because of the draft.

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  • LovinUSA
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:25pm

    I could see this coming when it first aired, how sad, that you misuse what is our protection to flame the fire of hate to harm, mame and cause more disruption among your own American people and I can bet who was behind it all, does the “Puppet Master ” ring any bell? or perhaps “spooky Dude” O-h-h-h-h what money can do for you . Now I know what my parents used to say all the time, “Money is the root of all evil” wonder where they heard that from? Fill me in folks I want to hear the history on this one!

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 8:18pm

      Your parents were wrong…LOVE of money over everything else is evil. Money is only a tool for survival. In large amounts (in the hands of righteous people) it can become a great good.

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  • Thors Hammer
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:25pm

    They’ve known about this for a long time. Seen it addressed on “NCIS” (both of them) Just wish the good guys could do it as quickly and effectively as they do on TV.
    They need to bring back – and use – firing squads! Anyone dealing in this merchandise is a terrorist, and an immediate threat to our safety and security. Water board, get all the info you can, then dispose of.

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  • MaxineH20Sux
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:24pm

    And when I said they leave their gang “Tags” on houses in Iraq I was NOT kidding.

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    • MaxineH20Sux
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:27pm

      unfortunately, their initiation is to go into the military to learn about it to pass it on to their gangs back home.

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  • MaxineH20Sux
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:23pm

    Wow, and I was ridiculed by you all the other day for stating the facts about gangs in our military. Thank you Blaze for letting everyone know I am not crazy!!!!

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    • Sgt_Rock
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:48pm

      I must have missed that post. I just retired as an E-8 MSgt /First Sgt from the Army Nat’l Guard after 30 yrs between the Guard and Active Duty. I would have backed you up. Gangs have been prevalent for some time. I did a tour in Iraq and two in Afghanistan. There was graffiti everywhere. In my civilian job I am a police officer. A Police Sergeant in a municipal police agency in the NW. I began my police career in L.A. In the 80s. I specialized in gangs, and have testified in court numerous times as an expert in three states and Federal District Court. Yes, there are punk a** hoodlums in the military. The Army and the Marines are chocked full…all you have to do is check the tats…aside from the neo-nazis, which used to be significant, you now have the entire gamut black and Hispanic gangs. Gangster Disciples, Vice Lords, Crips, Bloods Nortenos, Surenos, every body but Spanky and Buckwheat. I didn’t see any represented in my unit(s) because of the caliber of soldier and all around greater maturity level, most of my guys were in their 30s, but occasionally we worked with line units that had what I referred to as “individuals of questionable personal integrity.” That is not to say they wouldn’t do their job when we were in contact, but I didn’t want them around any sensitive gear. Granted, they knew it could end just as badly for them as for any Taliban, but some guys are less mentally gifted than others.

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  • neverending
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:21pm

    obama’s plans are in full swing and working in every possible avenue of our country. Anyone really believe our military would stand up for us anymore? I doubt it very seriously.

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  • neocon1
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:21pm

    More of the BLACK plague afflicting America.

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    • MaxineH20Sux
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:31pm

      It is not just blacks, the gangs are White, Black, Latino, Asian and becoming interracial as well. This is the problem with gangs. Some gangs also use sports teams logos as theirs so parents and people will not know ( they may turn their hats to the left or right) and that represents certain gangs as well.

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  • elosogrande
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:18pm

    Catch ‘em – kill ‘em – no exceptions!
    Problem solved.

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  • NeoFan
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:18pm

    Does this mean they are trying to tell us that they are being ordered by the DOJ to sell these weapons on the streets of the US?

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:17pm

    That‘s precisely why America doesn’t need more gun control, but rather politician control.

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  • V-MAN MACE
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:17pm

    Good. We need mil-spec weapons because they’re training the military to disarm and pull triggers on citizens.

    FLOOD the streets with guns.

    The more guns, the better.

    The more guns, the safer I feel.

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    • Wolf
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:20pm

      I agree, VMan- we need more people arming American citizens- not just the gangs alone. Every American should be following the Constitution and the Swiss idea of being armed: military grade weapons behind every door. It’s the only way to insure the government fears the people rather than as it is now with the people fearing their government.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 8:22pm

      I just hope that there will be enough civilians out there who remember their training if confronted by these sort of people. Certain weapons can be targeted, and what was stolen once can be stolen again to be used by the good guys!

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  • AIDANMAN
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:14pm

    Our new civilian army…as Obama promised…

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    • neverending
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:22pm

      Exactly right.

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    • bullcop0411
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:38pm

      I hate to break it too you but this has been an ongoing issue. When I was in in the early 90′s, gangs where there and weapons were constantly being stolen. It is not new nor is it part of obamas plan. As much as I deplore Barry, this is so not new news, especially to those of us who have served. Skinheads were real popular when I was in.

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  • MPry
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:11pm

    Truth is, the military needs to correct that shite immediately

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  • 762x51
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:08pm

    Things have changed since I was in during the Southeast Asia War Games. In those days, getting caught with just a spent cartridge case on you meant the stockade. I cannot even imagine what would happen if you “lost” a weapon. Why aren’t these people being court marshaled and imprisoned for 10 – 20 years then given a DD?

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    • GumRock
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:51pm

      I Agree
      Make the Punishment be As Harsh as Possible
      Let the Word out on the street be .. “You Mess with the Military and you
      will be Locked up till your to old to wipe your own A$s ”
      and anyone on the street caught with a Stolen Military Weapon . goes right to
      Military Court to be tried and punished under that Jurisdiction. then allow the Military use the Advanced interrogation techniques
      to Find where the Gun Trail is and run them All thru that court system
      Also .. anyone in the Military “ Sporting” gang Anything .. put up on charges of Treason.
      As Barney Fife say’s “ Nip It In The Bud ”.

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  • The Third Archon
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:08pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baRCq3twqww

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:14pm

      Awesome video, but you’ll have to explain what that has to do with anything?

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