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Federal Appeals Court Upholds Obama’s Health Care Law

Federal Appeals Court Upholds Obama’s Health Care LawCINCINNATI (The Blaze/AP) — In the first ruling by a federal appeals court on President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, a judicial panel in Cincinnati on Wednesday affirmed an earlier ruling that Congress can require Americans to have minimum insurance coverage  (commonly referred to as the “individual mandate”).

A conservative law center had challenged the provision, saying that it was unconstitutional and that Congress was overstepping its powers.

The three-judge 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel delivered a long opinion with disagreement on some issues.

The 2-1 majority opinion was written by a Jimmy Carter appointee and agreed with by a George W. Bush appointee. The dissenting judge was appointed by Ronald Reagan. MSNBC has more:

Today’s ruling by a federal appeals court in Ohio, upholding the Obama health care law, marks the first time a Republican-appointed judge has found the most controversial part of the law constitutional.

Earlier this month, The Blaze reported on a separate case being heard in the 11th Circuit Court. While this case is not expected to be ruled upon until the end of the summer, the judges had a negative tone when discussing the insurance coverage requirement. The Los Angeles Times has more:

“I can’t find any case like this,” said Chief Judge Joel Dubina of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. “If we uphold this, are there any limits” on the power of the federal government? he asked.

Judge Stanley Marcus appeared to agree. “I can’t find any case“ in the past where the courts upheld ”telling a private person they are compelled to purchase a product in the open market…. Is there anything that suggests Congress can do this?”

More than 30 legal challenges have been filed over the health care overhaul. So far, this latest case bring the total number of decisions upholding the law to four, with two other courts finding it unconstitutional. The case is expected to eventually reach the U.S. Supreme Court.

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  • EdBoo
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:41pm

    The problem here is the Supreme Court is going to drag out its review. The more time taken is more opportunity for one conservative justice to resign or die and Obama gets to appoint a liberal who will surely vote for sustaining the law as passed.

    This issue has absolutely nothing to do with universal healthcare. It is libs trying to get themselves thoroughly imbedded in the electorate and saying conservatives will take the helathcare freebie away if you don’t vote for liberals. Since 43% of taxpayers pay no federal income tax now who do you they they will vote for?

    Universal healthcare is fine as long as everyone pays who is able to pay. But, if they don’t pay the financial penalty should by higher – much much higher – like the average cost of healthcare coverage which eliminates the reason to dropout. Right now those opting out are essentially getting almost a free ride on my dime.

    Medical coverage should be like dental and vision. If you can afford it and you don‘t pay for it you don’t get any. Duh!

    But, that doesn’t work for the Medicaid class – the unfortunate due to no fault of their own, the real dumb, the uneducated and useless who can’t keep their knees together and especially those who spend it on non-essentials simply because they want it.

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    • Craftsman
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:11am

      Sorry, but no matter how many pay Universal Government Healthcare has been tried and it doesn’t work that well for most. Not in Canada, nor in England… people there can claim they are covered, until they need an MRI and have to wait 6 months because there are not enough machines…or this or that It all has to be rationed.
      I do agree that the leftists are also buying votes with this takeover…. but by forcing someone who is 25 years old and makes $20,000 to pay $3,500.00 for healthcare he wont use and doesn‘t want it absolutely doesn’t make sense. It isn’t free and they cannot sell it as free and its already costs them one election.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:41pm

    “If we uphold this, are there any limits” ? Uh, no. They will be forcing you to buy a GM battery operated car and GE “energy efficient” appliences next.

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    • Italia
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Gonzo, what do Republicans want to do about that “socialist” military we al pay for, and how about forcing us to buy auto insurance? Why can we be forced to buy auto insurance, but not health insurance?

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 4:05pm

      italia,
      You are only forced to buy AUTO insurance if you drive. Also, you drive on public roads,right? Well, you need insurance. You own 1000 miles of private roads then you don’t need insurance. The hospitals, doctors and so forth are all private, yet you are forced to go through a government system? Government making the rules?

      What if i were Prez and made you buy all food through my stores? That would be ok right? Because all people need to eat.

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    • Netsurfer2
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 5:42pm

      Auto insurance is a requirement because you can damage other people’s property when you drive, but healthcare is not a requirement because it is victimless and only to one’s self. It would be nice to where when we work, we pay for healthcare when we can afford it, but nothing is free in life or given!

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    • Craftsman
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:55am

      Italia,
      Yes, Auto insurance is only “forced” to protect others property… they do not force you to protect your own auto ( only the bank does if you owe them for the auto). Plus in most states you can put up a bond or cash for the amount they ask for liability insurance amount. In healthcare you cover yourself. If we wanted to cover just those without health insurance, the 8,000,000 who really might need it…and of those they would maybe need it once in 10 years as they are all younger and cannot get Medicare.
      Why not just open Medicaid to these 8 million the rare times they do need it? Or better yet medical saving accounts? It really wouldn’t take a whole new program that is meant to turn the whole healthcare system over to the Government.
      As for military spending, like all other government programs there is plenty of waste that should be cut. Sadly, we have enemies in this world and even hate our liberals and will walk over your dead body when they take over even if you kiss their booty and tell them you want Sharia law. So we have to have a military no matter what you think.

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  • jrfox
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:39pm

    They are very sick. Send them to thier doctors–ocrapcare– first and we can see what it is like.
    The 6 CC is a facist entitiy and must be removed all any cost. They must have been bought and paid for.
    Rebellion is getting close.
    does anyone else see that they have enslaved so many–thru welfare/poverty– and they will vote for $$$$$
    Evict them all in office they are spineless for not stopping this.

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  • BillComstock45
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:39pm

    If our blood-sucking, free-loaders calling themselves “Congress” would just do their damned jobs, as they swore under our Constitution to do, as well as a non-activist Judiciary, then we would not have unelected czars and regulators doing our President’s bidding. What has happened to this country, where we have a preponderance of un-American officials being able to cause the eventual demise of our beloved USA?

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    • candcantiques
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:19pm

      ALL elected officials do what the federal reserve tells them to. Who do you think bought them the job? This country is COMPLETELY run by the federal reserve which is owned by the big bankers who own the big companies like CBS, NBC, ABC, and they tell the employees of those companies what they can and cannot say through a little organization called The Council on Foreign Relations, which ALL owners of ANY news corporation MUST be a member of, including…. wait for it……FOX. Why do you think Beck left. They didnt like his report on the FED. It was only a few days after his show on the FED that he announced he was leaving.

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  • FoxholeAtheist
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:33pm

    Sure. Just give us a public option or perhaps make Medicare available to everyone.

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:46pm

      We already spend more on Medicare/Medicaid than we do on Defense/Wars. That’s not enough for you?

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  • Rob_M
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:32pm

    This is why judical activism is a threat like few others. The law is what they say it is, get to them and you have everything.

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  • JohnBirch
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:28pm

    That’s right! Throw me in jail too!
    While they’re at it……when we all STOP paying taxes …they can come try and get me then too!

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    • bleuze
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 8:00pm

      I have already stopped since I work too hard for my money to have it given away. I’m luckly, in that my income is not on a w-2 or 1099 form

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  • flsnipe
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:28pm

    Great, were screwed things are just getting worse America is no more!

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    • Netsurfer2
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 5:49pm

      Many things in America is screwed up, family life, lack of jobs, economy, legislation, we can go on and on. We need to get our country back on track! Vote 2012 and throw the bums out!

      Now as usual they are trying to pull this “tax and spend” on us!

      We are competing on a global market and we need a fair handshake!

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 6:03pm

      There is also an Executive Order in place after Palin becomes president that states all those who voted for Obama in ‘08 will be shipped to Mexico.

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  • Dahart
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:28pm

    Perhaps we should strat looking for that undiscovered island to move to……

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  • YEAHYOURIGHT
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:28pm

    Come on. This is an easy one, judges!Just send this to the Supremes to sort out quickly before more of our money is wasted fighting the inevitable and putting it in place to make it harder to uproot. After 2012 it will be the first order of business anyway.

    Assuming all this will happen, no reasonable, fair-minded judge can put a stay on executing such a questionable law until the battles are settled? Just another disgusting attempt to shove socialism down our throats. By judges, no less.

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  • CarlyinNJ
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:27pm

    Very Disappointing!!

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:25pm

    It is going to the Supreme Court it will just take time for the justices to get their adult diapers on!

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    • frustratedwithgovt
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:32pm

      Hope they don’t take a trip in those depends. We all know how much the TSA likes to check those.

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  • Steve
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:25pm

    Who the hell cares what 3 judges think. Vote in Conservative Representatives in 2012 and defund the whole damn thing.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 4:39pm

      There is a executive order that will go into effect after obama is reelected next year. The order states that all churches will loose their tax exempt statis. With all this extra money all our problems will go away. The president will be reelected next year after he swaps the 92% the government owns of Utah to china for almost 2 trillion dollars. You folks don’t realize how smart the man is.

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  • Young_Conservative
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:25pm

    They are telling me how to spend my own money before I even get out of College… It’s bad enough they take upwards of 30% of my summer income already and they want more? I won‘t even be able to start saving once I’m out of college all because of Fedzilla.

    I feel another feel another revolution brewing against an out of control government…

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    • candcantiques
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:08pm

      Thats what they want. They are pushing us and dividing us on purpose. Why would they do that. Well someone up above was commenting on the idea that martial law will never be declared because the US military would stand up for the people. Ever wonder why there are so many wars? Most of our military is out of the country. Keep an eye out for small back page news stories that state that United Nations forces are here for training.

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    • Suzanne
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 5:50pm

      @CANDCANTIQUES…good observation, my suspicions exactly…who will be left to ‘defend’ us if our best and brightest are deployed overseas? Beck had a great episode a few months ago where he challenged our civilian police officers to contemplate seriously who’s side they were on….because this administration is manipulating public wrath and wedges not only between the classes and races…but also instigating paranoia and suspicion resulting in lack of respect and confidence for our police forces who, while in the process of ‘doing their job’, are forced to uphold laws and legislation contrary to our Constitution and the rights guaranteed by it. Many otherwise law-abiding patriotic American citizens will be forced to break ‘the law’ by not abiding to this piece of garbage Obamasurance legislation. And by then becoming ‘criminals’ be ‘restricted’ from certain rights like the right to bear arms? What is it Glenn says…bottom up, top down….

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  • It is their RIGHT, it is their DUTY...
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:24pm

    Could it be that the Judge was paid off?? Or possibly owes a favor to the administration??
    Gosh, I don‘t think there’s anything sneaky or suspicious going on here do you??
    LOL !! Is there anyone in the white house that’s not a communist or socialist now??
    Maybe the maid??

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    • candcantiques
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:27pm

      when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

      I AGREE

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  • frustratedwithgovt
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:24pm

    Booo! – Get a clue – Gov’t has no right to tell me what to buy or what not to buy.

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    • TheodoreRoosevelt
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:57pm

      except for states making you buy car insurance

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    • frustratedwithgovt
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:25pm

      Buying car insurance if very different. If you want to drive you have to have it. If you choose not to drive you don’t.

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    • Living In NYC
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Good call on Teddy you are so right Frustratedwithgovt!

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    • Commonsense Libertarian
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 7:46pm

      @ Theo:

      The difference Sir, is that per the 10th amendment the States retain those rights. They can legislate all they want at the state level. As Reagan put it, if the people of a certain state do not like the policies of that state, they are free to vote with their feet and move. By requiring all American Citizens at a national level to pay for insurance it is a violation of the 10th amendment. Not only that but per the 10th, those unnamed rights are retained by the people.

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  • the zipper
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:22pm

    So now my beloved government can tell me what I have to buy. It’s all over if this stands

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    • tinydd
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:57pm

      Everyday I get closer and closer to the decision of leaving America, I’m thinking China right now as I lived there for four years before and it was much better than what is going on here now.

      Oh yeah, China’s top income tax rate, 18% of which I can live with that.

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    • tarbush
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:24pm

      And next the govt will be telling you that you can‘t own a gun and you can’t exercise free speech (unless if it is approved socialist thought. All other will be classified .as hate speech. )

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    • Lamarr01
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 10:52pm

      The following is copied from MSNBC on the “here” from above:

      UPDATE: In 1942, the US Supreme Court ruled that Congress had the power to stop an Ohio farmer, Roscoe Filbert, from growing his own wheat. The court said then that his decision to grow his own, rather than buying wheat on the national market, affected interstate commerce, which Congress has the authority to regulate.

      Today, the Sixth Circuit appeals court said the same logic applies to health insurance.

      Opponents had argued that while Congress has broad authority to regulate economic activity, it has no authority over inactivity, such as a failure to buy insurance. But the appeals court said today that Congress is actually regulating the market of self-insurance for health care, in which people try to find some way to cover their costs other than by purchasing insurance.

      But the court said self-insuring affects interstate commerce, by shifting the costs of the un-insured to people who have insurance, just as the wheat farmer affected interstate commerce by growing and consuming his own wheat instead of buying it on the national market.

      My comments:
      The judges decided the Constitution does not regulate “non-activity.” Therefore, Congress can pass laws regulating things you do not do. If you bandage your finger yourself instead of paying to have someone else do it, who are having a negative affect on interstate commerce.

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  • Untameable-kate
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:22pm

    I don’t care, I’m still not going to obey the health care law. They can throw my butt in prison. We’ll see how popular that makes BO

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:53pm

      Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc were not popular yet they stayed in power for quite some time. I guess when you‘re dead it won’t matter anymore.

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  • Marnin
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:22pm

    So tell us in the article in the “long opinion” why they felt that Congress had not overstepped it‘s bounds and didn’t violate the commerce clause?

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:44pm

      DITTO!!!!!!!

      WE WANNA KNOW THE DETAILS!!

      Thanks for the headline and the quick article, but, we want the details, too!

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  • upstateny
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:22pm

    America and the Constitution are dead.

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  • candcantiques
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:22pm

    There are only 2 things that I MUST do in this world. LIVE and DIE. Obamacare isn’t on the list

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:21pm

    That shall change in 2012.

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    • rodamaa
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:35pm

      Get busy campaigning now to rid our selves of this garbage in the white house.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:37pm

      Roger that.

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    • Italia
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:13pm

      Rodamma, Republicans don’t have a candidate that anyone other than bat crazy knucklheads would vote for.

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 5:56pm

      ITALIA
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:13pm
      Rodamma, Republicans don’t have a candidate that anyone other than bat crazy knucklheads would vote for
      _______________________
      Anyone – human, animal or even mineral – would be 14.5 trillion times better than the dictator in office now.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:21pm

    God above get these cases to the Supreme Court before the nightmare progresses too far beyond the ability to be stopped; it is a Chimera of the greatest order and nightmare being made reality.

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:41pm

      what the hell is the supreme court going to do? they’re just as liberal.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:35pm

      So where does this go next? What about the other circuits that deemed this Unconstitutional?

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 6:07pm

      This is a battle that will continue. If lost in the Supreme Court it will still go on. It is wrong, and Americans will not let it stand.

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  • candcantiques
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:20pm

    Throw me in jail. I WONT BUY IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:26pm

      The prisons are already full! Guess all that extra money coming in will have to go to build more prisons.

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    • Untameable-kate
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:38pm

      They can let out the prisoners like they do in California and stick all the conservatives in there, since we will be the ones not paying for Obamasurance.

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    • 50BMG
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:22pm

      The irony is that in prison, you’ll still have mandatory government health care. But at least you won’t have to pay for it.

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    • Wdawg
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:13pm

      They wont put you in jail. They are having it enforced by the IRS, so they will just take it out of your bank account.

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:20pm

    It is too late.
    God save us.

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    • ILUVAMERICA
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:27pm

      PLEASE READ!!!!! PLEASE READ!!!!!!
      Obama is going to take TOTAL control of our Country!!!!!
      Why the “Balanced Budget Amendment” is a Hoax – and a Deadly Trap
      http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/why-the-balanced-budget-amendment-is-a-hoax-and-a-deadly-trap/

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    • BloodSweatandTears
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 12:46am

      @ILUVAMERICA

      go to THE LINK within @ ILUVAMERICA IF BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT measure is True… We are all in very serious trouble. If THIS iS TRue We need to ALL see OUR ConGRESSmen TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!! This is further reaching ThAN ANYTHING yet to pass thru this ADMINISTRATION!!!

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:29pm

      THERE IS A GREAT REPORT BY CATO ABOUT HOW TO MAKE OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ESPECIALLY THE MEDICARE SYSTEM BETTER: http://tiny.cc/n1l5m

      We don’t need ObamaCare we need federalism and market based solutions.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:37pm

      It’s not too late. The least conservative Republican candidate has promised to repeal it. If you have to, hold your nose and vote for him. Hopefully, you won’t have to. Hopefully, we’ll have a better option but, vote to repeal this socialist program when you get the chance.

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:40pm

      When the Weimar Republic collapsed the people were so angry that hundreds of politicians were massacred. Shouldn‘t these activist judges and politicians be a bit afraid at this point in time considering it’s their fault for allowing our country to crumble?

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    • rukiddinme59
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:43pm

      @ILUVAMERICA – I have little doubt you love the country (just look at your screen name). Obama is NOT and CANNOT take over the country. I say this because I had a liberal friend who was literally in a panic because he believed GW Bush was going to declare martial law. He believed with all his heart and soul. I told him then that there were 3 reasons it wasn’t going to happen. First there was NO logical reason for it to happen (other than his liberal mindset running amok and buying into Bush conspiracy theories) Two, this country has the largest armed populace in the world. Third even if he tried that means the military would have to be compliant in standing against the American people. Obama’s agenda may be the most un-American I’ve witnessed in my lifetime BUT there is no way in HELL that our all volunteer military will take up arms against the American people. If we ever got to that point I have 100% confidence that the military would stand with the citizens and they would honor the oath of corps to protect the Constitution against all enemies foreign or DOMESTIC. Sleep a little easier at night my friend, Obama isn’t taking over our country (albiet he is trying his best to fundamentally change it) anymore than my liberal friends thought Bush would. He‘s gone in 2012 and there’s not one thing he can do about it.

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    • HKS
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:43pm

      It be nice to own a few judges, George Soros.

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:44pm

      Another bunch of boobs who don’t understand the constitution. Please, someone tell me where in the constitution is says the Feds can requires us to buy a product from a private company to simple exist in the US? How about it, trolls?

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    • Rogue
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:45pm

      One judge gave the following explanation of her ruling: “”Congress had a rational basis for concluding that the minimum coverage provision is essential to the Affordable Care Act’s larger reforms to the national markets in health care delivery and health insurance”.

      From my understanding, that means the government is free to force you to pay for a service if it helps to provide that service to others who can’t afford it (see socialism). Essentially, she looks at this as a tax, with revenues used to pay for the Government service of healthcare. According to this nutjob, maybe the Government can’t force you to buy something when no “greater good” can result, but it is apparently constitutional for you to be forced to pay for the healthcare of all other citizens through additional taxation.

      Just another Tax and Spend scheme.

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    • sooner12
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:47pm

      Let us see how this plays out when it gets to the US Supreme Court.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:48pm

      @Gonzo:

      Indeed there is still hope, it is not too late so long as even one of us holds onto hope and is willing to stand against the encroaching night. God is moving, and making his presence felt; people are waking and understanding – slowly as it is to us – and the tide will shift.

      This nightmare has been brooding for a century of maneuvering by the progressives, and soon will be making their last stand. THEY of the progressives are losing control of the message, control of the people and control of their dream it is a nightmare happening to them.

      For now they hold the power, not the control. Soon they will lose both.

      Just as with the hand of the Almighty helping Israel, there are the signs of His influence happening.

      Hang on and the storm will pass; we need to ride it out, and work togeather, for we will do so the People of America.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:51pm

      BO is not a Constitutional president. Remove him from Office NOW!!!

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    • rukiddinme59
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:52pm

      @ILUVAMERICA – I have little doubt you love the country (just look at your screen name). Obama is NOT and CANNOT take over the country. I say this because I had a liberal friend who was literally in a panic because he believed GW Bush was going to declare martial law. He believed it with all his heart and soul. I told him then that there were 3 reasons it wasn’t going to happen. First there was NO logical reason for it to happen (other than his liberal mindset running amok and buying into Bush conspiracy theories). Two, this country has the largest armed populace in the world and citizens that would use them if our country was under drastic an immediate threat be it internal or external. Third, even if Obama tried to set himself up as a “king” of sorts then that means the military would have to be compliant in making a stand against the American people. Obama’s agenda may be the most destructive and un-American I‘ve witnessed in my lifetime BUT there is no way in HELL that our all volunteer military will take up arms against the American people of which it’s comprised of. If we ever got to that point I have 100% confidence that the military would stand with the citizens and they would honor the oath of corps to protect the Constitution against all enemies foreign or DOMESTIC. Sleep a little easier at night my friend, Obama isn’t taking over our country and setting himself up as perpetual ruler (albiet he is trying his best to fundamentally change it into something othe

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:52pm

      I resist.

      I’m the sovereign.

      The Supreme Court has no sovereignty over me as an individual.

      The Supreme Court is UNDER me.

      WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE SOVEREIGN, and WE AND OUR GUNS SAY HELL NO!

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:00pm

      TexasCommonSense
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 1:44pm
      Another bunch of boobs who don’t understand the constitution. Please, someone tell me where in the constitution is says the Feds can requires us to buy a product from a private company to simple exist in the US? How about it, trolls?
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      Commerce clause and Necessary and Proper Clause. Same with Social Security and Medicare. Sorry, but the few holdings in Red Courts that supported your position were legal jokes of opinions. It is a shame that the US has waitied this long to take its first baby step to providing for all of its citizens.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:01pm

      We are now officially doomed!

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    • pajamash
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:03pm

      “If we uphold this, are there any limits” on the power of the federal government?
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      Let me answer that for you judge….NO!!!!!!

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    • hauschild
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:05pm

      Commies at every federal turn.

      Kinda wish the Congressional Hearings of the 1950′s would come back into fashion.

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    • CREUSLY
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:17pm

      @Iluvamerica I read that and it was very informative, thank you for sharing, though it is kinda scary to think they’ll be able to spend whatever they want as long as they have enough votes to do it and that the Pres says how much they are initially able to spend..

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:37pm

      Whats with these Judges that think that Government and I say that in the broadest sense, for today it could be the Federals but once the die is cast why not the State or even a County and then down to City, require a citizen to engage in commerce against their will. As farcical as this might be could the Feds require Citizens to purchase Life Insurance with the Government as the Benefactor as a way they would claim to reimburse S.S. for paying a retiree more than what they put into the system? Don’t Laugh

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    • old white guy
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:40pm

      bloody unbelievable. bush appointed a liberal judge.

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    • PatrioticAmericanDad
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:46pm

      ENCINOM
      Your Socialistic Maxist real self is showing. If you want to live someplace where it is the government’s job to take real good care of you, why don’t you move there? May I suggest Sweden is nice this time of the year, or perhaps China, or Cuba. Why should I work my but off so that slackers can spend my money. Your liberal freinds in Washington tried to make it possible for everybody to own a house, and in part that’s why we are in the soup now. The fact is you and I can’t give enough to satisfy what the Progressives want to spend. They are borrowing $.42 of every dollar they spend. How is that sustainable?

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    • pajamash
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 2:59pm

      “They are borrowing $.42 of every dollar they spend. How is that sustainable?”
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      It is not sustainable patriot, that is why Obama and many democrats keep hammering on, “it is only fair to raise taxes”.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:03pm

      @ encinom> please don’t be from encino,ca
      ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..I seams obvious that you see a different relationship between Citizen and Government then most on this blog. Can you point out another Country and say that is the model you would like to see here.

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    • 408 CheyTac
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:07pm

      a liberal judge appointed bu a progressive dem agrees with a liberal judge appointed by a progressive republican.

      Where is the news in that?

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    • Italia
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:10pm

      They sure do force us to buy car insurance, and none of those justices can find that law either?

      I’ll tell ya, Republicans sure do hold the corner on denial, deafness, and forgetfulness.

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    • SummerB
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:51pm

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/27/critics-say-soros-trying-to-stack-courts/

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:54pm

      @italia. . . . . . . . . . . . .
      They sure do force us to buy car insurance, and none of those justices can find that law either?
      I’ll tell ya, Republicans sure do hold the corner on denial, deafness, and forgetfulness.
      ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..What you say about Republicans might be true but at least when we write something it is accurate unlike yourself. In the State I live in you only need Liability insurance to compensate others due to your Malfeasance. If the car is payed off you no longer need to protect the note holder so no collision in required.

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    • hifi74
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 4:01pm

      ITALIA
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:10pm
      They sure do force us to buy car insurance, and none of those justices can find that law either?

      I’ll tell ya, Republicans sure do hold the corner on denial, deafness, and forgetfulness.
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      That’s mandated by the states not the Fed Gov you dolt. Get a clue before posting here lest being shown for the dolt that you are.

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    • chazman
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 4:01pm

      To hell with ‘em … I won‘t buy anything that I don’t believe in, and I don’t believe in OBAMMYCARE! I am an American and a Patriot, and if they come after me I may not win the game, but I will score a lot of points! Our backs will soon be against the wall, folks! Come out fighting!

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 4:14pm

      encinom, sorry, these clauses authorizes taxes, not forced purchases.

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    • melmatmic
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 4:35pm

      Encinom,

      Social Security and Medicare are also unconsitutional in my 56 year old opinion.

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    • 2smart
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 4:50pm

      @encinom, The Commerce and Necessary and Proper Clause? Are you kidding me? You can do better than that. Add another boob who doesn’t understand the Constitution to the list!!

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    • JRook
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 5:18pm

      Whether you liked or disliked Nixon, he was perhaps the most forward thinking and strategic Presidents we have had. He proposed national health insurance because he realized the need to spread the costs out over the largest group of people possible. Don‘t remember exactly how he was going to fund it but the simple fact is you can’t support spending twice as much per capita as the next highest country with only 60% of the people paying for insurance. There has to be a standard set of coverage for all Americans and it has to be funded with something that everyone pays into.

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    • chazman
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 5:40pm

      We have to work harder than ever to NEVER allow Liberal Marxism to occupy positions of political authority in America ever again, no matter what it takes.

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 5:42pm

      It can and WILL be repealed. What if, for example, you don’t subscribe to Western medicine? In that case, Western medical insurance would be a complete waste of money. Sorry, you cannot force free Americans to buy something they don’t want or need simply because that are alive and some dictator says they have to!!

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 5:48pm

      HIFI74
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 4:01pm
      ITALIA
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 3:10pm
      They sure do force us to buy car insurance, and none of those justices can find that law either?

      I’ll tell ya, Republicans sure do hold the corner on denial, deafness, and forgetfulness.
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      The BIG difference here is that you don’t have to buy car insurance. You only have to if you drive on public roads. You can own a car and drive a car on you own land and do not have to buy insurance.

      BUT with this medical insurance you HAVE to buy it, just for being alive. Even if you don’t subscribe to western medicine!! Comparing this to auto insurance is shear stupidity, as there is no comparison.

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    • nort0149
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 7:04pm

      @ITALIA
      They sure do force us to buy car insurance, and none of those justices can find that law either?
      I’ll tell ya, Republicans sure do hold the corner on denial, deafness, and forgetfulness.

      Who forces you to drive? If you don‘t want to pay for car insurance then don’t drive. You have a choice.

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    • hifi74
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 7:24pm

      IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 5:48pm

      The BIG difference here is that you don’t have to buy car insurance. You only have to if you drive on public roads. You can own a car and drive a car on you own land and do not have to buy insurance.

      BUT with this medical insurance you HAVE to buy it, just for being alive. Even if you don’t subscribe to western medicine!! Comparing this to auto insurance is shear stupidity, as there is no comparison.
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      I think you have me confused with the dolt I quoted. I agree with you here. I was showing that on the face alone being State vs Fed makes their argument completely invalid. Plus I didn’t want to further confuse someone who is already clearly lost.

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    • Live_Free_orDie
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 7:27pm

      Hey Appeals Court…GFY!!! Last time I checked, I live in the USA…and you can‘t force me to buy anything I don’t wanna buy! If you want to send me to jail…go for it. I’m tired of working to support illegal aliens, drug addicts, and POS politicians anyway.

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    • 101
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 7:50pm

      What ya gonna do lock up the workin man fo not havin insurans. LMAO. IT WILL NEVER WORK.

      4 months ago had a truck hit, 7600. in damages, some Hispanic w/no insurance. SHE GOT A FINE, I had to pay 1200. to my deductable for an accident that was not my fault…see where this is going?

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    • hifi74
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 8:02pm

      Encinom,

      You are apparently very confused about the constitution. 1st the Commerce Clause,

      Amendment X

      The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

      Take note of “powers not delegated to the United States” and “reserved to the States”. That means unless the Constitution specifically gives authority to the Fed Gov it is pursuant to the States.

      2nd the necessary and proper clause,

      To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

      Nowhere in there do you see a foregoing power to force a citizen to buy something JUST for being a citizen and alive. No you could try to argue on the part of Section 8 clause 1 “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States”. Unless the AHCA was a tax, but it’s not, so presented and argued by the Dems. But then it would still be unconstitutional because it is NOT applied uniformly.As proven by the 1400 waivers granted by the Obama Administration. Sorry but your AHCA is nothing more then a 21st century Poll tax, and ver

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    • AOL_REFUGEE
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 8:36pm

      This is just insane. This country must be in the process of going down the poop chute.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 8:40pm

      That’s ok. Somebody is going to start shooting these Nazis and Commies that disregard the Constitution in the face. Then it’ll stop.

      The Answer to 1984 is 1776.

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    • ramburner
      Posted on June 29, 2011 at 10:50pm

      Why can’t we rid ourselves of the vermin in our Federal Supreme Court? It seems that even though we elect good people, after waking from a deep sleep, we are still stuck with legislative law from the bench. This is NOT what the Constitution declared was right. Why is it that law is filtered through revisionist history? Wake up America, it may already be too late!

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    • lylejk
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:42am

      To paperpushermj; The Fed does not require Automobile license because they can’t. It’s the State you live in that requires it and the State does have that right (hence Massechusettes healthcare law thougth I don’t agree with it). What powers not given to the Federal Government are retained by the State and it should be up to the individual states whether or not to require whatever insurance they feel that state needs their citizens to have. I don’t think the States ever relinquished that right to the Federal Government (healthcare included). :)

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    • Cold War Vet
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 4:17am

      @ FASTFACTS

      The CATO Institute writes some pretty good stuff. I read it myself. It’s worth looking into!

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    • one years food ration like glenn says
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 7:43am

      Oh yeah ? Why cuz you say so ? Oh I see, it’s written right there under the abortion amendment in the constitution ,stupid me I didn’t see it, Thanks judge…. pfftt !!!

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