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Federal Funding for Embryonic Stem Cell Research Gets Appeals Court OK

WASHINGTON (AP) – Federal Funding for Embryonic Stem Cell Research Gets Appeals Court OKThursday’s temporary court action may be a legal reprieve but not one for laboratories. The National Institutes of Health has suspended work to fund new research projects on embryonic stem cells, and while NIH didn’t immediately comment, observers say the scientific process needed to restart that is unlikely before a final court decision.

“No way this would be a scientific reprieve,” said Patrick Clemins of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

While scientists who already have received taxpayer money for stem cell experiments can continue their work until their dollars run out, 22 projects that were due to get yearly checks in September were told they’d have to find other money to continue their work. Most researchers do have multiple sources of funding, and are working now to separate what they can and can’t do, Clemins said.

The government is asking the appeals court in Washington to strike down a preliminary order by U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth blocking federal funding for some stem cell research.

The three-member appeals panel says it is suspending Lamberth’s ruling for now. The appeals judges say they want more time to deal with issues in the government’s appeal.

Lamberth rejected the administration’s request to let funding continue while it pursues an appeal of his order.

The appeals court said the purpose of its administrative stay was to give the judges sufficient opportunity to consider the merits of the Justice Department‘s emergency motion which seeks to suspend Lamberth’s ruling.

Thursday’s move “should not be construed in any way as a ruling on the merits” of the Justice Department’s motion, the appeals judges said in their three-paragraph order.

Lisa Hughes, president of the Coalition for the Advancement of Medical Research, said her organization is very pleased that the appeals court has taken the step.

“It is crucial that federal funding for human embryonic stem cell research be restored permanently and this stay is a step in that direction,” Hughes said in a statement. “While this issue continues to be argued in the courts, we call on Congress to move swiftly to resolve this issue and secure the future of this important biomedical research.”

The appeals judges in the case are Karen LeCraft Henderson, Janice Rogers Brown, and Thomas B. Griffith. Henderson was appointed by George H.W. Bush and Brown and Griffith were appointed by George W. Bush.

Medical researchers value stem cells because they are master cells that can turn into any tissue of the body. Research eventually could lead to cures for spinal cord injuries, Parkinson’s disease and other ailments.

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 11:02am

    I read some Christians here telling me they are in charge of my womb, telling me they own my womb. I read some Christians here telling me they will decide if I can give birth or not.

    I have a hankering to pick up a stick and give those Christians a severe beating about their heads and shoulders. My womb belongs to me and only me. I will decide if I am to become pregnant or not.

    This Christian claim of owning my womb is a type of thinking no different than Taliban thinking. This type of Christian thinking informs me some Christians believe themselves to be minor deities.

    Why, I am thinking to break this birth record held by Octomom. I am thinking to give birth to twelve with one hard push and a bloody scream. Twelve would be just the right number of little red skinned disciples for a last supper table.

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 10:50am

    SYLVIA SORAYA comments, “Her very first entry on this topic is designed as a sucker punch, she is a skilled debater, in fact, she is a master debater.”

    Well, well, look who is here. Last I saw you, Soraya, was at Billyray’s Broken Spoke Saloon over in Eagletown, Oklahoma. I left you face down and out cold on a bar table after whopping you upside your head with a whiskey bottle for your cheating at poker.

    Seems to me you are looking to draw Aces and Eights by taking me on again.

    Soroya writes, “She begins her thesis, ‘A microscopic embryo is not life…’ The entire argument of embryonic stem cell research balances on this fulcrum. Take away the pivot point and you have no argument. I believe that once an egg is fertilized it is a life.”

    Fine, I know you are holding a pair of deuces and are bluffing. If an embryo is life, what are an egg and sperm before sneaking off to drink whiskey and do the hanky-panky? Based upon your logic both an egg and a sperm are life.

    An ace up my sleeve, then, informs me male masturbation is murder and oral sex performed upon a man is cannibalism. Not only is male masturbation an act of mass murder by whatever delightful means, each time a girl dispenses of her egg by tossing her tampon in trash, this is murder.

    We should pass a federal law making male masturbation, oral sex and menstruation capital offenses.

    I match your ante and raise you a million riyal. Are you in or out?

    And pass me that bottle of whiskey, I need to wet my whistle for debate.

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

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    • Sylvia Soraya
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 1:51pm

      *looks around for an ice pack*

      Taha asks, “I match your ante and raise you a million riyal. Are you in or out?”
      Didn’t I hear Billyray whisper something about being “all in” back at that Saloon of his?

      Trying to catch me off guard, Taha sneaks out a card, “If an embryo is life, what are an egg and sperm before sneaking off to drink whiskey and do the hanky-panky? Based upon your logic both an egg and a sperm are life.”

      I did not pull any “p” or “q” from my sleeve. I offered no logic in my argument I simply stated my belief, my truth, “I believe that once an egg is fertilized it is a life.”

      Sylvia Soraya
      Christian Girl

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    • Okpulot Taha
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:48pm

      Sylvia Soraya clonks her head with a whiskey bottle, “I offered no logic in my argument”

      Boy howdy! You need to adjust that tin foil hat of yours! I need to review some of our debate lessons with you.

      Soraya taunts, “Taha asks, ‘I match your ante and raise you a million riyal. Are you in or out?’
      Didn’t I hear Billyray whisper something about being ‘all in’ back at that Saloon of his?”

      Well, gosh darn it, I told you to never mention this. Ain‘t fittin’ for folks to find out the real reason I clocked your head with a whiskey bottle is you were flirting with my boy.

      Soraya closes, “I simply stated my belief, my truth, ‘I believe that once an egg is fertilized it is a life.’”

      Which is exactly why I knotted your head with a whiskey bottle. You know I don’t diapers anymore. Over there at his saloon, that night, you should have stuck with playing poker with me instead trying to get yourself stuck on my boy.

      Now, darn it, quit hogging that bottle of whiskey, hand it on over to me.

      Using Occam’s razor, this topic does slice down to an issue of, “When does life begin?” I both appreciate and respect your position on when life begins. I do understand this point of view of the faithful; a human embryo is life or could become life in keeping with poker odds.

      However, at such an early stage of life, we cannot differentiate between a human embryo and a frog embryo. No difference between those two until much later stages of development. I am, of course, arguing my purely scientific point of view with disregard for this question of a soul.

      Nonetheless, I believe faith and science can coexist and be cooperative. I do not support creating embryos simply for scientific research. This is wrongful. My point of view is much like our friend, SB_SMITH, whose comments are found on a following page here, “I personally have no issues with embryonic stem cells obtained from umbilical cords or from frozen embryos…being used in research.”

      Smith is alluding to unused frozen embryos being thrown away. Soraya, you know I am maddeningly pragmatic. Using those embryos for research, embryos which are normally trash canned, this is a realistic and a logical use of those embryos. Rather than throw away potential for good, we should have those embryos actually create good. You know of this good; advancements in medical science.

      Some object to federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Those who object are not being fully truthful. Costs of embryonic stem cell research is prohibitive and truly can only be afforded by taxpayers. This advancement of medical science is well worth the money spent; rewards are priceless and many.

      There is a moral issue with having large corporations, maybe fictitious Embryos R Us, dominate embryonic stem cell research. Large corporations are in this for obscene profits. This leads to abusive practices such as paying women to allow harvesting embryos. You and I are in agreement this is wrongful. Motivation through profit incentive often leads to moral conflict.

      Federally funded research, our tax dollars, keeps this research in the public domain. Any and all results from federally funded research can be used by anyone or the medical industry at large; profit incentive and “trade secrets” are removed. Additionally, federal funds can have strings attached like, “Discarded embryos only and umbilical cord stem cells only.” Federal funds allow us to avoid profit incentive, keeps information in the public domain and sets moral rules for this type of research.

      Most embryos created for in vitro fertilization are thrown away. This is a tragic waste of great potential. Same is true of throwing away umbilical cords. Denying federal funding is to play into the hands of greedy corporations looking to profit from embryonic stem cell research. Faith and science are not mutually exclusive and never should be. Faith and science should cooperate for the benefit of and betterment of not only humankind but also for all life on Earth.

      This Christian viewpoint of denying any embryonic stem cell research is not just ignorant but also immoral. Readers know I write truth. Denying a baby a life, denying a disabled child a chance at life, denying a cure for disease of aging like Alzheimer’s, this type of denial based upon faith is immoral.

      A classic, Ronald Reagan could have been spared Alzheimer’s through embryonic stem cell research. Reagan vetoed his own cure. Such a loss for America and our world; for more than a decade, Reagan‘s words of wisdom were silenced by Alzheimer’s.

      There is a cost beyond denying a physical cure, there is also a cost of loss of personal intellectual potential. Stephen Hawking, a recent topic here, comes to mind.

      If there is a moral dilemma here, this is a dilemma of faith based hypocrisy.

      Soraya, when you send my husband home, ask him to buy a fresh bottle of whiskey on his way.

      Okpulot Taha
      Choctaw Nation

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  • GlennBeckIsADemagogue
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 9:42am

    “So here you have Barack Obama going in and spending the money on embryonic stem cell research. … Eugenics. In case you don’t know what Eugenics led us to: the Final Solution. A master race! A perfect person. … The stuff that we are facing is absolutely frightening.” –”The Glenn Beck Program,” March 9, 2009

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  • YT
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:33am

    As a nation we have strayed so far the God and the founding values, principles and morals that inspired this country to become what did. Our values are upside down when dogs and cats have more laws to protect their welfare than the unborn! Use adult stem cells. This is just another strategy to get us to not object to population control.

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  • reelmom5
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:32am

    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
    Thomas Jefferson
    I can voice my disapproval and moral rejection of the practice of harvesting embryonic stem cells in private practice, but I should not be compelled to fund what I believe to be morally reprehensible. I am being made an accomplice to murder against my will. Therein lies the tyranny.

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  • Debra-Chicago
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:19am

    This is what happens when the DEMS, who have controlled Congress for 40 out of the last 52 years, are allowed to make political appointees to the bench and to the Supreme Court that are idealogues and have the same agenda as the progressives destroying our Nation daily.

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  • jeffro314
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:03am

    why is there even a debate about this when it will only take us further into debt?
    what money are they proposing using on this? no money – no spending… makes sense…

    Put that checkbook back in your pants Mr. President – doesn’t matter what may be considered legal, it isn’t moral to kill more babies on the public dime, especially when we don’t have any extra dimes right now…

    there is plenty of private funding of embryonic stem cell – again, don’t spend nonexistent public money killing innocents!

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  • benrush
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:42am

    Adult stem cells are more miraculous and don’t require killing and “harvesting” a human life as though we were some group of cannibals.

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  • benrush
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:40am

    Another great place to cut back the profligate ways of the federal government. They are abusing the power WE THE PEOPLE entrusted to them. Time to remove the overgrowth and get back to our roots which have become corrupted.

    When government and science and commerce mix, the result is volatile. We need to remove the temptations to abuse power which have grown like weeds in the federal infrastructure.

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  • EP46
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:11am

    If there is no life to the embryo there would never have been any problem with this type of research. The very possibility of life has always been the reason against this type of research. Very easy to decide, no life…no discussion, certainly no court involvement. This is another way of disregarding the value of the unborn.

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  • rocktruth
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:55am

    I had a typo so I am posting this again:

    Using Human Embryos for growing and harvesting organs reminds me of a morbid science fiction movie.

    The real moral issue is how we spend money and the debt we are leaving for our children. If we used even a quarter of this budget for the study of disease prevention + good health and people did just a little exercise, we could save BILLIONS of dollars on health care while raising our quality of living. Let’s talk about restoring honor!

    I don’t believe people should be forced to exercise & stay healthy like the movie 1984 but that‘s where our country is headed if we don’t restore honor and do the right thing for ourselves!

    People can be encouraged, educated about disease prevention, and they will do the right thing. Well I hope we can. But also corporate-run media needs to step up to the plate and do what’s honorable about health education and even hold their sponsors responsible. I also put responsibility on our church teachers. The bible teaches our body is the temple of God and bodily exercise profits a little. We all need to encourage each other to do the right thing. For goodness sakes!

    Laziness and Gluttony is immoral because it leads to higher heath care cost and encourages corporations to grow unborn babies in laboratories for the purpose of harvesting organs. Spend, Spend, Spend. It is wrong!

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  • Okiegal
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:30am

    I will have to continue later, I am tired…thank you for the debate…it has been quite ‘eye-opening’ to say the least!! Good night all!!

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  • Okiegal
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:27am

    God made us, and if for some reason known only to Him as to why a woman should get with child or not, is Gods will.

    Man has free will to do anything he pleases, but should we? It is on our conscious to or not.

    Should a Dr create more embryos than necessary? Creating more than is needed is a waste of life, I agree…perhaps that is why they create more, and have no thought to the life they made, but for other motives…they will have to answer to God in the end.

    Should we play God?

    Should we leave the woman barren and let her just adopt a child instead of playing God and creating life outside the womb.

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  • Okiegal
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:14am

    God giveth and God taketh away, God creates life. Man in his ignorance takes life and destroys life.
    God would not like the taking of life no matter what stage it is in…

    I have experienced the voice of God, if it wasn’t God, then it was an angel who spoke, and to me the voice was male. Now you will say I am crazy because I have heard God or an angel… :-)

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:09am

    OKIEGAL opens a can of worms. “Okpulot Taha, just who’s embryos are being trashed?”

    Fertility clinics. A woman wants to have a child. She has difficulties conceiving. She seeks treatment through fertility treatment. A dozen of her eggs are fertilized. Two or three of her embryos are introduced into her body. The rest of her embryos are trashed canned.

    Are we to forbid a woman from giving birth because some of her embryos are trash canned? Who are we to judge whether or not a woman can become a mother?

    Denying a woman a child, this is immoral.

    My point is Christians have no objections to trash canning embryos yet object using those embryos to cure disease, to repair broken bodies and to save lives.

    This strikes me as immoral.

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

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    • solvitur ambulando *** Deo
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:01am

      Okpulot I can see you speak from the heart, but you have been told lies. Yes, “embryos” are life, and yes, all life is precious. Those fertility clinics you speak of …there is a great deal of real concern about their activities and how they operate, in fact there is an adoption movement whereby those babies are adopted. Do not assume that because the current popular culture says “embryos” are not life that that is not the case. We have become an arrogant people… we think we can control life and death… we do not. Life and death are in the hands of God and it is a God and we have made ourselves into gods….or so we think. There is a great Spirit to whom we will need to answer.

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  • Okiegal
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:00am

    Okpulot Taha, just who’s embryos are being trashed? If you perhaps are intimating using aborted babies, well you just opened another ‘can of worms’ haven’t you….

    What about using the umbilical cord stem cells?

    As for saying this would not make sense to God, tell me how would you know?

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:57am

    OKIEGAL asks, “What does God say on the matter?”

    I do not know. God does not talk to me. What does God tell you about this?

    There is something I am more curious about, is God’s voice female or male?

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:51am

    UMREBEL1991 writes, “Adult stem cells, however, have been proven and used for years. They can do the same thing that an embryonic cell would…”

    This is untrue. Current strains of adult stem cells are very old, very stale and are displaying expected “diminishing returns” from cloning. Adult stem cells do not offer as many potential cures as embryonic stem cells. Scientists are reaching the end of the line for adult stem cell research.

    UMREBEL1991 adds, “Why kill innocent, unborn children….”

    Embryos are not life. Embryos are not children. Embryos are currently thrown into trash.

    You state embryos are unborn children. This begs a question, “Why do you condone throwing unborn children into a trash can?”

    There is another question. “Are you willing to condemn unborn children to death because of some interpretation of whatever in the Bible?”

    Deliberately condemning an unborn child to death is murder, yes?

    Using embryonic stem cells to save the lives of unborn children, to save the lives of children after birth, to cure disease, to cure the crippled, to end suffering and misery, is this truly a moral dilemma?

    No moral dilemma with simply tossing embryos into trash, but there is a moral dilemma with offering cures and with saving lives by not trash canning embryos.

    This does not make sense to me, and I am certain this does not make sense to God.

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

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    • rocktruth
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:25am

      Using Human Embryos for growing and harvesting organs reminds me a morbid science fiction movie.

      The real moral issue is how we spend money and the debt we are leaving for our children. If we used even a quarter of this budget for the study of disease prevention + good health and people did just a little exercise, we could save BILLIONS of dollars on health care while raising our quality of living. Let’s talk about restoring honor!

      I don’t believe people should be forced to exercise & stay healthy like the movie 1984 but that‘s where our country is headed if we don’t restore honor and do the right thing for ourselves!

      People can be encouraged and educated about disease prevention and will do the right thing. Well I hope we can. But corporate run media needs step up to the plate and do what’s honorable about health education. I also put responsibility on our church teachers. The bible teaches our body are the temples of God! And boldly exercise profits a little. We all need to encourage each other to do the right thing. For goodness sakes!

      Laziness and Gluttony is immoral because it leads to higher heath care cost and encourages corporations to grow unborn babies in laboratories for the purpose of harvesting organs. Spend, Spend, Spend. Is wrong!

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    • umrebel1991
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 9:35am

      Actually if you knew the real science behind it adult stem cells have been used for years and have been proven effective. And they are not old considering they come from a BORN babies umbilical cord blood.

      And unlike you I am a christian and God says the second an egg is fertilized it is life. And God’s voice is has nothing to do with it anyway, he speaks to his people through his word known as the Bible.

      So learn your facts and learn your science. I had the same debate with a REAL scientist and researcher on this matter the other day, not just someone who looks this up on the internet (i.e. you). Adult cells have been proven to do everything embryonic can.

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    • Narya
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 9:58am

      Umbilical cord blood has stem cells in it too.

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  • Okiegal
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:49am

    You have since opened with, “A microscopic embryo is not life. This is a collection of the most basic cells possible. Embryos are most often thrown into trash, discarded without reverence. Embryonic stem cells can lead to cures for many diseases, cures for many birth defects, cures for many different maladies. Embryonic stem cells can and will end much suffering and misery along with saving many lives.”

    According to whom is an embryo not life? What does God say on the matter?

    I will not defer to scientists and science to tell me when life begins, as far as I am concerned, the second the sperm enters the egg, life has begun…

    If you look at it this way, it is triune, one living egg one living sperm come together to create one living human being.

    God has his hand in everything, and no one will suffer from not using embryos…use adult stem cells!

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  • Okiegal
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:43am

    I am in total agreement with you both Rocktruth and Umrebel1991. Well said!!

    Okpulot Taha, you are right…but for the fact you didn”t make the distinction between adult stem cell and embryonic…Stem cell research IS a viable science that should be funded for all the reasons you stated, however I do not agree with embryonic stem cell research and ALL funding should be cut off.

    It is a miracle of God that adult stem cells are a wonderful creation that Man has the intelligence to use to aid those less healthy.

    I for one would like to be able to use adult stem cell treatment for myself.

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:36am

    A thought and challenge for Christians. Debate what is most immoral.

    A microscopic embryo is not life. This is a collection of the most basic cells possible. Embryos are most often thrown into trash, discarded without reverence. Embryonic stem cells can lead to cures for many diseases, cures for many birth defects, cures for many different maladies. Embryonic stem cells can and will end much suffering and misery along with saving many lives.

    Denial of embryonic stem cell therapy is to condemn the many to lives of pain and anguish, to deny a new born a chance at life, to deny the crippled healthy bodies, to deny our military girls and boys a chance at full recovery from damage done by war. Denial of embryonic stem cell therapy is to condemn many to death, often a horrific torturous death.

    Which is most immoral, throwing away cures to protect self-righteousness or denying the hope and dream of many, good health?

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

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    • rocktruth
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:56am

      umrebel1991 said it perfectly.

      It‘s also immoral that we haven’t spent the Embryonic tax budget on the proven methods of adult stem cells than cure disease today! . If scientist spent more time exploring adult stem cells, we could be saving peoples lives right now! Instead they are doing research on harvested Embryo’s for purposes like mass production or organs.

      Maybe they wont destroy the Embryo until it grows and matures enough to produce a new human heart or liver? It’s obvious what science is trying to do.

      Cut spending now!

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    • redneckphilosopher
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:28am

      I will admit that some of this debate is over my head. I’m pro life all the way. Even if you could convince me that this is moral it seems like an open door that could lead to places I don’t want to think about. The progressives are real good at killing our country with baby steps. Just look at the last 50 years and see what baby steps can do. As for the research all I can say for sure is may God” will be done.

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    • derekcrane
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:51am

      The left-wing insistence that embryonic stem cells be used for scientific research, though adult stem cells will suffice, attests that their basic article of faith remains forcing one human to serve another. Whether by redistributionist fiscal policy, mandates on behavior, excessive regulation or “pro-choice” legislation, of which the fate of embryonic stem cells rest, lefties love forcing people to serve others.

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    • Sylvia Soraya
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:25am

      Taha brandishes her pen, “A thought and challenge for Christians. Debate what is most immoral.”
      Perhaps we should start with defining what is “is”.

      Taha is hoping for a debate on the moral equivalence of which life is worthy of defending, the embryo or the life of those suffering from possibly treatable disorders. Her very first entry on this topic is designed as a sucker punch, she is a skilled debater, in fact, she is a master debater.

      She begins her thesis, “A microscopic embryo is not life…”
      The entire argument of embryonic stem cell research balances on this fulcrum. Take away the pivot point and you have no argument. I believe that once an egg is fertilized it is a life. This is my truth, this is my reality. A microscopic embryo is a life, there is no argument to be made, no debate on morality and no debate on moral equivalence.

      The real question we ought to be asking, should medical research of any sort be funded by the Federal Government?

      Sylvia Soraya
      Christian Girl

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  • umrebel1991
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:17am

    Embryonic cell research is unproven to this point and as rocktruth said it requires the destruction of embryo. Which is murder according to the Bible.

    Adult stem cells, however, have been proven and used for years. They can do the same thing that an embryonic cell would, but WITHOUT the destruction of a life. So why not more study and money in the adult cell research if they must increase the money?

    Why even use an embryonic if adult works just as well? And they do. Why kill innocent, unborn children and let loose the wrath of God in yet another area when we have a perfectly viable non-murderous option already in use?

    Just doesn’t even make sense to me. Hard to believe this socialist government would want to increase spending in yet another unneeded area.

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:15am

    ROCKTRUTH writes, “This is immoral and wrong”

    Why?

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

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    • solvitur ambulando *** Deo
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:49am

      yes, it does kill a life. What is truly frightening is in the health care bill now law there is authorization for sooo many kinds of research that does not require any ethical review boards or evaluation or disclosure. In fact, the research authorized (wide open) is funded and has clearance to violate the most basic tenets of ethical research, that of voluntary and informed consent. People were upset with BMI…that is just the tip of a very dangerous iceberg. YOU can become a subject of a research project and have not idea…your doctor does not need to be informed either….and your kids…begin looking at some of these obesity research projects with kids with your eyes wide open. There is very real danger with respect to uncontrolled research by a government that doesn’t acknowledge any moral or ethical guidelines. Be forewarned!

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    • green1red1
      Posted on September 21, 2010 at 1:06pm

      Ethics!

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:07am

    Can you imagine a cure for cancer, a cure for diabetes, a cure for heart disease, a cure for paralysis, a cure for Alzheimer’s, a cure for tragic birth defects, cures for so many horrific conditions and diseases. Certainly, this must be God’s work for the benefit of all mankind. So many wonderful cures right at our fingertips. This is truly a blessing from God.

    The very lives of so many babies will be saved by stem cell research. Children will not have to suffer agony and pain only to die after a few years of life. Kids can leave behind their wheelchairs and walk to the open arms of God, blind kids can see the light of God, deaf kids will hear the word of God and so many families will be spared such tragic suffering. God is touching the hearts of children with stem cell research.

    God is truly a loving god, a compassionate god, and a good father to all babies and children.

    Thank you, God, for gracing us with this miracle of stem cell therapy. Your love for us is boundless.

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

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    • TomBurpee
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:45am

      Skin cells, 10x more effective. Elderly/Adult/Child all do the same thing. Skin cells can adapt and grow faster than stemcells, they also don‘t have to be DNA coded to the recipient seeing as how you can peel a layer of skin the size of a time off of someone’s back or shoulder, and have it grow a whole new leg. Bone/Muscle/Skin/Hair and all. It does all of the stuff you listed above without months of DNA coding!
      By using skin cells, we don‘t have to ’harvest’ anything from a embryo, or “recycle” a miscarriage. The sanctity of life is very important to me, and I’m sure to you also which is why I advocate for the banning of stem cells and the adoption of skin cells. We won’t need women to surrender eggs or embryos, and leave nature to it’s own.
      Which is more natural taking the skin from your back, and growing a new eyeball/liver/heart? Or harvesting stem cells from human reproductive agent (or a miscarriage) and DNA coding it to your DNA combining it with ‘Good’ cells and hoping that it corrects the ‘bad’ cells that are present and causing you problems?
      I vote for option number-one.

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    • Narya
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 9:55am

      Yeah, and I can see the informercial now

      “For the low, low price of one human life, (and seven installments of 699.99), you too can be healed like me”

      Maybe you believe in a god that thinks it’s ok, but my God certainly doesn’t.

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  • rocktruth
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:07am

    Another great place to cut spending. Permanently!

    Adult stem cells should be studied and used for cures.

    The “harvesting” of embryonic stem cells requires the destruction of the embryo. This is immoral and wrong. Even when it’s being used to cure human disease.

    God have mercy.

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