Federal Judge Denies ‘Underwear Bomber’s’ Request to Be Judged By Islamic Law
- Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:20pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Accused "Underwear Bomber" Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab (AP Photo)
On Tuesday, The Blaze covered the ongoing debate over Sharia (Islamic law) in America. In Oklahoma, courts are debating whether citizens have the right to ban Sharia and in Michigan, a group of Muslims have come out in strong opposition to Islamic law.
These are only two examples of states in which restrictions are being sought on foreign laws that some fear will work their way into the American judicial system.
Earlier on Wednesday, the debate over Islamic law found its way back into the headlines when a judge refused Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab’s request to be judged by Islamic, rather than American, law.
Abdulmutallab, a Nigerian man accused of trying to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas day back in 2009, expressed disappointment with Federal Judge Nancy Edmunds’ decision. He reiterated his belief that the Quran, Islam’s holy book, should set the rules governing his case. So far, the suspected terrorist has been less than compliant. The Detroit News reports:
A defiant Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab tried to disrupt the start of jury selection Wednesday by shouting,”Osama is alive!” and propping his feet on the defense table.
His behavior — including his refusal to stand for the judge — marked an odd start to a highly anticipated terror trial in federal court in downtown Detroit.
In a separate complaint, the alleged terrorist claims that he was not read his Miranda rights. As a result, he wants incriminating statements he may have made during his initial detention thrown out. But an FBI agent says that his rights were purposefully not read, because authorities feared there might be more attacks to come.
Agent Timothy Waters testified Wednesday that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab might not have cooperated if given the option to remain silent. Waters says al-Qaida often stages coordinated attacks, and that the government needed to know if there were other planes with “suicide bombers” that day.
Abdulmutallab is charged with trying to detonate a bomb in his underwear on an Amsterdam-to-Detroit flight.
The Associated Press contributed to that report.
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Comments (114)
PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:47pmJust WAIT for the time……….
when a city tries a muslim for something like this (and it will be in the not so distant future – betting Dearborn will be first) and the muslim judge duly elected by the muslim majority population will conduct a “sham trial” and the muslim judge and the muslm jury will throw a party for the muslim guy who will go right out and kill more non-muslims. .
No far fetched. European countries are sinking into Sharia Law now. In this country liberals and RINO’s played fast and loose with the Constitution for years and years (Patriot Act/ObamaCare/TSA feel up unwarrented searches/federal and state “agencies” making law with Congress approval/presidents going to war without Congress approval, etc. etc. etc. In the future it will be American muslims destroying what is left of the Constitution.
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:48pmCorrection
Report Post »federal and state “agencies” making law WITHOUT Congress approval
tower7femacamp
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 6:00pm“He sat up and videotaped the entire thing, very calmly,” said Patricia. “We do know that the FBI is looking for him intensely. Since then, we’ve heard nothing about it.”
On Saturday it was reported that a “sharp-dressed man” had escorted Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab when he boarded Northwest Airlines Flight 253 in Amsterdam. Mutallab was allowed on the plane without a passport. It was later reported that Mutallab seemed to be in a trance.
The alleged videotaping of the underwear bomber and his fudged attack is another oddity that the corporate media should zoom in on. Unfortunately, we no longer have a functioning investigative media in this country.
Instead we will hear endless pabulum about a resurgent al-Qaeda and murderous idiocy from neocons like Joe Lieberman who are screaming for another small and defenseless country to be bombed and more innocents slaughtered as the U.S. chases a phantom terror group created by the CIA.
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/man-videotaped-underwear-bomber-on-flight-253/
Sheepdog911
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 7:29pmSorry there roasted nuts, Sharia is not a form of law recognized (yet) in the U.S. Too bad you didn’t land in Texas, Gov. Rick could finish roasting them for you.
Report Post »dwilco77
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 7:41pmMaybe Sharia court would be OK as long as Sharia punishment followed.. Since he already burned off his unit, which is a pretty good punishment, I doubt there would be too much trouble finding volunteers to stone him while he was buried up to his waist. Be careful what you ask for.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 8:46pm.
Report Post »Can someone tell me why this piece of crap is still alive?
I thought we shot enemy soldiers.
He is the enemy, he tried to kill Americans, why is he still eating my food?
jzs
Posted on September 15, 2011 at 12:04amSorry bud, you’d also be convicted under Islamic law. The Koran says, “…whosoever killeth a human being… it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind…”
Report Post »stacie01872
Posted on September 15, 2011 at 9:09amI was actually surprised to read that muslims in michigan strongly oppose sharia courts in the U.S…..but is it just a ploy??? :) Anyway, why not let him have his day in a sharia courtroom so that he can be sentenced to death by stoning? I kinda like the sound of that!
Report Post »Van Bones
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:29pmWhen I clicked on the picture I thought it was going to be a story about Obamas new flashmob czar.
Report Post »GOOOJOOO
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:21pmOnly In America
Report Post »HKS
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:41pmI would be in favor of lamp post law, A rope (make it a new one, not to offend anyone) and the closest lamp post. About three days in the sun should do it.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:30pmSucks to be him.
Report Post »GumRock
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:17pmJudge ! I Would Like to be judged by ” Bob’s Law ” !
Report Post »Hes my next door neighbor .. and i like his law ..
Chuck Stein
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:04pmWhat the heck? Sure. No problem.
Report Post »Tronix
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:16pmBob’s?…mmmmmm I don’t know Bob, but what about Barry?
Report Post »Tusker
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:31pmThat’s pretty damn funny gumrock!
Report Post »barber2
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:12pmPlease write about the Holder’s DOJ “fair lending unit” created in 2010 led by special counsel Eric Halprin and overseen by Civil Rights Division head Thomas Perez. Sounds like these guys are pulling an “ACORN” by pressuring banks to “lend to minorities at below-market rates and, in effect, dish out cash to politically favored “community groups.” ( I read this in the WSJ on 08/31/11) Please publicize all of the stupidity that emanates out of the current DOJ ! Tons to write about ! Thank you.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:07pmPlease give Holder a copy of the al Qaeda handbook and make him read it. These guys love the free publicity and want to put America “on trial.” Underwear Man, and all of these jihadis , should be tried as enemy combatants which is cheaper, less public, and more in keeping to his motivation. Just another example of the total lack of good judgement of the publicity-seeking Obama Administration and its DOJ. Trying to be “King of the World is damaging to America’s safety…
Report Post »Junter
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:01pmMental illness.. this nutcase tries to blow things up and murder people and when he’s caught he expects special privileges. As weak as the US has become I‘m surprised they didn’t give in.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:22pmThey thought since it was Detroit .. they could get it .. .Dearborn just outside Detroit has the highest Muslim Population outside of the middle east .. believe me they will keep trying to get it in a FEDERAL court.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:00pmRiverDog1 you aren’t too bright are you. I take the word of radical Muslims when they say their plan is to invoke Sharia law all over the world.
When that happens, assuming idiots like you site back and do nothing or take radicals at their word like the rest of us, then let me be the first to say, “We told you so”. I am saying it now because I may die first preventing Muslims from implementing sharia law before I go and may not be able to make a final post to The Blaze.
However, I am sure their are enough good Americans and some Liberal Progressives who will see the light, and protect and defend the freedoms we have.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:00pmAnother mess by the Holder DOJ whose bad judgement not only give these idiots press time , but cost the broke taxpayers big bucks while driving up the deficit. Underware Man should be tried in a military court as an enemy combatant which would be cheaper and not aired in public. The al Qaeda handbook tells their followers to use our laws to destroy us. Maybe someone needs to give Holder a copy and make Holder read it! Duh..
Report Post »chazman
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:56pm… his life won’t be worth spit in a federal pen … laughing stocks rarely are. Not to mention, a carton of Camels can get this fool whacked.
Report Post »jihadazzkicker
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:54pmCome on this guy wanted to blow himself up, lets help him get it done. One grenade tucked away in his rear lower area, actually this could be done back in his home land. Lets see how far he can get before he gets what he wanted in the first place. In fact lets make it a pay for view event and use the money to pay down the debt.
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:49pmI can’t help but wonder what this legal-manuvering has cost the taxpayers (us) so far? He should be charged with contempt of court for his antics to boot, and be taken out in irons. Oh, wait. I’m sorry. Not only is he a muslim, he‘s also one of Holder’s people. Oooooooh; double-secret protection.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:46pmAmerican courts should NEVER be subject to “international laws”. We are a sovereign nation!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:01pmAnd most of the time they are foriegn law does not come into play. Nearly never in criminal (few cases were American law regarding bribery or other interactions with foriegn officials, and then only to clarify the american law). In civil cases, contracts may call for foriegn law to be applied, an arrangement between different parties my depend on a definition of a term from a foreign country. But this parade of xenophobia on display at the Blaze is nearly comical.
The bigger issue the the FBI not reading the suspect his miranda rights.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:29pmForeign enemy combatants are not entitled to ‘Miranda Rights’.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:31pmIt is not xenophobia, but a hatred of a cult of death that has openly declared its intentions to kill us. They have been quite successful in many attempts (not so much here since this idiot is incompentent,) wouldn’t you say?
sharia law is rooted in evil, and in no way promotes justice or fairness. All it will take is one activist judge to allow it, and it will spread like the cancer it is across the country.
You should be concerned when you post in drag (monicne) as I think sharia frowns on this behaviour.
Report Post »selloursouls
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:33pm@ Encinom, no actually it is not a bigger issue the FBI did not read the panty bomber his miranda rights. It’s kind of like if a gunman tosses his gun into a field next to a school the police do not have to read miranda to him because the immediate safety of others trumps the need to read miranda. They can ask him where the gun is and not risk losing the evidence for later prosecution. As with many bright line rules created by the Courts there are always exceptions.
Report Post »Nepenthe
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:58pm“All it will take is one activist judge to allow it…”
It cannot be allowed based on the Constitution of the United States. How hard of a concept is that to understand? In order to allow Sharia concepts to be forced onto defendants, the Constitution would have to be amended. I do not see that happening.
As was pointed out, Muslims, as any other group of people, are fully free to enter into contracts that may have Sharia applied. They are allowed to do this, and if a dispute arises the Judge will correctly apply the law as based on what the contract says, which may or may not be Sharia. This is freedom of association and contract.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:21pm@Selloursouls,
But that exception is limited, the threat must be real and would occur in a relatively short period of time. (gun thrown in the field at a time when the school is in recess, exception doesn;t apply). Also the exception is limited to information about the threat only not about his crime. Their failure to mirandize him may come back to bite them.
Report Post »As for those that say Miranda doesn’t apply, I guess you do not beleive in the constitution and its protections that you are willing to so easily throw them way.
Banter
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 7:31pm@Nepenthe
“It cannot be allowed based on the Constitution of the United States. How hard of a concept is that to understand?”
I appreciate your thoughts on this, however, I think you are being, at best, naive. Two of the most prominent issues that are unconstitutional, gun rights and the healthcare mandate, certainly violate the constitution. It can happen, particularly with the inordinate amount of activist judges sitting on benches today.
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 8:48pmDon’t play with the trolls. They are clueless and stupid. Any attempt to appeal to their reason is a lost cause.
Report Post »selloursouls
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 8:49pm@ Encinom, Where in the Constitution does it say Miranda has to be read? No there is no time limit when the person may be hurt. If there is reason to believe the man had a gun and the gun is near a school time doesn’t matter because the next day a child could pick up the gun. The potential that another attack when dealing with radical Islamists is generally high, so speed in gather information is essential.
Miranda is not a Constitutional right, it is a rule created by the Courts. Rules do not mean rights, they simply tell how the system will run. If the Supreme Court decided tomorrow that Miranda is not necessary no one could claim a Constitutional right is lost. It is simply a bright line rule nothing more. If there is potential to gather information of further attacks then the court will side on the safety of the public. Miranda Readings in simple terms are a technicality.
Report Post »texanpatriot
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:43pmWell said, Jenny.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:42pmyou all with your fear of sharia law coming here is really funny. crazy, but funny.
Report Post »texanpatriot
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:54pmRIVERDOG1: Read the part of this story on this site about the death penalty.
EX-MUSLIM AUTHOR: KORAN DEMANDS ‘JIHAD’ & TEACHES BELIEVERS TO ‘HATE’ CHRISTIANS AND JEWS
TEA in 2012
Report Post »meamerican
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:06pmLook at Europe, are they crazy or is it happening there?
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:44pmAnything to get attention hey riverdog? Mommy doesn’t respond to that holding your breath thing anymore? Go away you flippin’ twit, jeesh!
Report Post »RedheadedStepchild
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:28pmRiverdog1: It does seem farfetched, but when I see articles like with one in the New York Times defending the use of Sharia Law in our courts (for Muslim’s of course)…it chills me to the bone. That Muslim women will not have the protection of our courts in our country is frightening…if you knew ANYTHING that is the Horror of Sharia, you would understand that for me, someone who’s sister is married to a Muslim man– it is something that a constitutes a rational fear…. ESPECIALLY when the ACLU is suing the state of Oklahoma in support of the enforcement of Islamic law in that State. The ACLU’s partner in the suit is CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which has been tied to terrorist groups. If the implementation of Sharia in whatever form is an impossibility and we are sooo stupid for even suggesting it..then why is the lawsuit in Oklahoma only one of many that involve forcing judges to use Sharia with Muslims? Some universities are even teaching it because we are developing a “body of Islamic Law” in America. So Riverdog, chuckle away…. You are right, it is hilarious.
Report Post »unequivocally_right
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:42pmThis guy had a death wish, we should comply and grant it. Let’s for go the painless route and light him up. He was planning on blowing himself up anyway along with other innocent lives on the plane.
Report Post »texanpatriot
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:46pmHow about a lottery with the winner getting to light the fuse???
Riverdog1; feel free to move to the Middle East and live under the law of the thugs. You speak out because you can. Try life where you will be stoned or beaten for the same…
texanpatriot
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:42pmPart of the cleanup of the mess that has been created over the last 80 years should be to unseat these loon judges. That is within the authority of Congress. We need a country based on our Constitution and nothing else.
How can the Great Experiment of the founding of our country continue if it is watered down and torn apart by the rule of man instead of the the rule of law.
Think 2012…
TEA
Report Post »Azreal
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 8:34pmOne Texas patriot to another…
Amen brother.
Its time to review the concept of impeaching judges who have been shown to be unfit for their jobs.
This is why we have Gitmo. This is why civilian trials for people who are at war with us is wrong.
Report Post »paulusmaximus
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:37pmHe is not a citizen of the U.S. he has no civil rights he should have been set to Gitmo!
Report Post »chazman
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:48pm… why is this turd still on American soil? Either take it to Gitmo or feed it to the sharks …
Report Post »Nepenthe
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:52pmHe was not taken to Gitmo because there are still some people in this country who believe in the rule of law. Not high ranking Republicans or Democrats, but there are still some.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:35pmWow – you can’t find an “emptier” look in a set of eyes like these. Dude’s obviously not too bright.
Classic shout out to Elvis with the “Osama is alive” bit.
Sitting here contemplating on much longer until a leftist-loon judge grants such a motion. Any lawyer that would represent – and counsel – a client that wants to be tried by a non-American law needs to be disbarred. I’ve never heard anything so insulting and foolish in my entire life. The absolute stones these bottom feeders have is mind-boggling.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 6:57pm… the rule of law has no place being applied to terrorist’. They are animals and should be treated as such …
Report Post »bernbart
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:35pmWhen can we have a a ban on those trying to impose their right wing Christian religious beliefs on women.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:38pmYou mean allowing women the “right” to murder their unborn babies? Yeah, the right to murder a helpless baby is something worth bitterly clinging to…… (rolling eyes)
Report Post »Marci
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:44pmBern–you are one of those “bleaters” I refer to. If you have no issue with this, then please, shout it from the rooftops that you are perfectly fine with a religious law overriding the constitution. Do not cowardly (and ignorantly) start bleating about Christians. No comparison whatsoever, and if there really were, again, you would have the stones to say more than you just did. Moonbats are a diseased bunch, please seek help.
Report Post »LarryOfAz
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:48pmYeah, like that right wing Christian belief that the only part of a woman’s body that can be seen outside of her home is her eyes thru a slit in her black head to toe casper costume, or that one that women are not allowed to be outside the house without being in the company of a male relative, or that a woman is not allowed to drive a car, or that really crazy christian practice of stoning to death a woman who happens to be attacked and raped, thru no fault of her own, or here‘s one christian belief that it’s right an proper to run down your daughter with a car because she had the audacity to actually date a non-christian boy. Yep, those right wing Christian beliefs and practices against women really need to be banned.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:48pmBernbart forgot that the Constitution was written by a bunch of right-wing Christians.
Report Post »hi
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:53pmPeople come to Christ because of His love and eternal salvation.
Muslims follow islam because they get their head chopped of if they don’t.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:39pm@Bernbart
It is time for your ProbIemSoIver edification !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY
Take the 9 minutes to understand as much about Islam, as a westerner needs to know.
Report Post »This will explain the difference between Islam and EVERY OTHER religion !!!
selloursouls
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:44pmSo from this comment I am supposed to believe that every woman that has Christian beliefs has been forced to believe in said beliefs? Because you do know there are many right wing Christian women, right? I am also guessing you are referring to abortion. I have to admit the more I hear liberals bleating about abortion rights the more inclined I am to agree with their stance on abortion. Because abortion really keeps the liberal population down. Oh that was inappropriate, oh well.
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:09pmBernbart everyone who argues for abortion has already been born, who is going to be the voice for the ones that want to be born,where are their rights
Report Post »W@nd@
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:34pmpolitically correct nimbots
Report Post »just do not get it….
about the muslim religion and
they will keep pushing and pushing in the courts til some
stupid pc judge screws the american pople over and makes
a judicial mistake on the bench.
Look around the world at what they are doing
using laws to get sharia
God save America from this abomination!
Marci
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:42pmIt should NEVER be up for consideration EVER. Any judge who even CONSIDERS whether it should be used or not is in violation of the Constitution (our only law) and should be taken OFF THE BENCH. There is no need to consider whether another law (let alone the law of a RELIGION) should be considered. Where are the separation of church and state bleaters all of a sudden? This (not prayer on public grounds or at events) is what separation of church and state is really about. If we EVER use Sharia in consideration over our laws, we are done. (and yes, I know some judges have already done so, they should be taken off the bench)
Report Post »olddog
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:33pmUnder Islams law, they would cut his hands off then his head and then give him a fair trial.
Report Post »Listen is you wnat to be tried by the Islamic code then please blow something up in islamic lands..
This boys got the Fire Down Below…..
DagneyT
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:30pmFinally American Muslims standing up against sharia, and for America. It’s been a long 10 years coming! As for this brain-washed lad, if someone would take time to introduce him to Jesus, he’d do a turn-around of historic proportions.
Report Post »Gary Fishaholic
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:38pmI agree but there is still not enough of them willing to speak out against there own.
Report Post »IAMMADDOG
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:30pmSo I suppose if I were to go to a muslim country and throw bacon at people they would let me be tried in a court from Y country? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Report Post »Banter
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:27pmGreat, because under sharia he is probably rewarded for this act, not punished. Thank goodness he was incompetent.
Report Post »OUTRIDER WRITER
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:39pm@Banter
Report Post »True.
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and incompetent …blowing off part of his “como se llama.”