Federal Judge Thinks Obama Should Have Bypassed Congress on Debt Ceiling
- Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:08pm by
Tiffany Gabbay
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During the entire debt debate, it was not unusual to hear liberals suggest that President Obama simply go over Congress’ head and raise the debt ceiling unilaterally. It is one thing for the left to endorse such an unconstitutional push, however, it is wholly another when an federal judge does it.
But shockingly, that seems to be what Judge Richard Allen Posner of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit did during an interview with Bloomberg Law’s Lee Pacchia about the legal implications of the recent S&P downgrade. What is even more shocking, however, is that the Reagan-appointed judge, apparently known for making controversial statements, is allegedly conservative-leaning.
So who exactly is Judge Posner, and what would posses a federal judge to suggest Obama bypass Congress unilaterally?
Posner is a Senior Lecturer at University of Chicago Law School, is a prolific writer, and some assert him to be one of the most influential thinkers regarding law and economics.
In an article for the left-wing site Slate, even Eliot Spitzer wrote of Posner:
Richard Posner, esteemed federal judge of the 7th Circuit, is one of the most respected and prolific conservative intellectuals. As a founder of the “Chicago School,” he is both a creator and defender of the free-market theory that has guided deregulation for the past 30 years.
During his Bloomberg interview, Posner asserted that, in a show of strength, the president should have just raised the debt ceiling, even though a lawsuit would have soon followed. As if to say, “big deal.”
Judge Posner’s eyebrow-raising comments on Bloomberg come at around the 5:00 minute mark:
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Comments (176)
Profx72
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:44pmDoes this really surprise anyone? A description by “Client #9″ that someone is Conservative that does not include some vitriolic accusation of racism or hatred is about as reliable as Rush Limbaugh endorsing Hillary Clinton during the 2008 Democratic Primaries: it’s not even worth the time to note! Lifetime appointments and positions of academic elitism warp the minds and words of even the most Principled Men & Women. And, he’s right in one regard: had the President done it, an injunction would have been mired in the courts, and no court would ever rescind the increase in the debt ceiling in a timely manner for fear of the economic repercussions of enforcing the Constitution. During the process, the Congress would eventually raise the debt ceiling anyway, rendering the issue moot. It wouldn’t have solved the problem, but it would have set a precedent that would allow our Executive Branch to become a dictatorship…a result no “Conservative” would EVER endorse!
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Gypsy123
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:43pmWould George Washington by passed the Congress and did what he wanted too. No! because he was man of honor and integrity.
Report Post »tvr54
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:56pmYa man so true.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:08pmIndeed, to have a viewpoint of how wonderful a man of integrity and honor Washington was, consider the moment when the army wanted to make him a king; how many of us in his place would have then given into the temptation and gone for it?
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:08pmEliot Spitzer wrote that the judge was a great conservative? Does anyone else see something wrong with that?
Report Post »RON-BLAZE
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:11pmThey dont make guys like George Washington anymore…..Hes been rolling over in his grave since he died. But we need a New George Washington soon or its a bust.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:48pmSend this old fart, who’s outlived any usefulness, to Gitmo.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:50pmYet another American Jewish lame-brain.
Report Post »the iceman
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:56pmThere are no such things as honor and integrity in Washington anymore.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:58pmwhatever..ropes,gasoline & pitchforks !
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 7:10pm“Posner is a Senior Lecturer at University of Chicago Law School”
Report Post »That right there rules him out as being considered ANY kind of conservative!
Patrick in AZ
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 7:22pmJust goes to show that being “conservative” does not put someone above the temptation of being a dictator or trampling on other people’s rights. Who hasn’t ever said, “there ought to be a law.“ or ”some people should not be allowed to have children?”
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 7:27pmHe‘s not fiscally conservative or he wouldn’t have liked the idea of raising the debt ceiling. And he doesn’t appear to be a constitutionalist because it specifically gives the right of enforcing the 14th amendment to congress, not the president.
His “conservatism” must be narrowly focused.
Report Post »mr anarchy
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 7:31pmgeorge washington would have nothing to do with you …
george washington would of told you keep his name out your mouth
where do you get this idea where you know anything about the founders
people who use founders… rarely know them read them just what other people have said about them
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 8:04pmLook at Posner’s eyes. Shifting right to left to right (back and forth). I have a friend with a brain problem that does the same thing. Shifty eyes. And did the Bloomberg guy say “sar” instead of “saw” at 5 minutes into the clip? I would expect better verbiage from a Bloomberg guy.
Report Post »ramburner
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 9:33pmSo, What are we going to do about it? Is this guy appointed, make SURE his appointment is removed at the next election! If he has a lifetime appointment, we MUST change the laws WITHOUT a grandfather clause that allows these Communist, Marxist people to maintain their job. If the laws cannot be changed or should not be changed, then we need the legal advice of a Constitutional lawyer who can show a court how this person has broken their oath to uphold the Constitution and therefore MUST be removed from his position!
Report Post »lineinthesand
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 8:53amMr. Anarchy, you sir, and your comments are reminiscent of a brown streak in a pair of underwear.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 10:23amJaycen
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:08pm
Eliot Spitzer wrote that the judge was a great conservative? Does anyone else see something wrong with that?
Unfortunately yet again it’s just another rabid Marxist Jew with an innate contempt for our Constitution. There’s little doubt in my mind that if this wicked bunch could they’d round up all Patriots and place us in concentration camps like they did to the Russian people. Remember Bill Ayer’s plans?
Please wake up America. Our future depends upon you knowing who these people are and what their intent is. It’s late in the game!
How many more examples must I provide?
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:26pm.
Thomas Jefferson fired judges.
Let’s bring that back.
Judges do stupid things every day, why are they immune?
Report Post »Marci
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:42pmWhat would possess him? I don’t know…that whole University of CHICAGO thing comes to mind. And how many times do people have to say that the debt ceiling wasn’t what got us downgraded, it was the refusal to cut the appropriate amount of spending.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:48pm@LINEINTHESAND
And just why is that, S-Fer-Brains?
Report Post »chazman
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:54pmThis is why America is in the trouble it’s in. It‘s because of AhOLES like this that think it’s OK to go against the Constitution of the United States of America! Yeah, screw the law and the American people. Yeah … maybe we ought to start hanging you ‘forward thinkers’ from the nearest cherry trees on Pennsylvania Ave. What say ye?
Report Post »2smart
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:41pmThat would have gone over real well with the masses. The Dow would have fallen 3600 points and the other two agencies would have downgraded our credit rating as well. Some people really need to sit and think and then do a cause and effect analysis!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 7:29amHow can this man be Federal Judge and not know that Congress and only Congress can set the budget?
Report Post »Danang1972
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:40pmHey Judge -STFU and just go away!
Report Post »IMAWAKENOW
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:02pmYou mean pass away.
Report Post »fastfacts
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:38pmMORE POWER TO THE COURT SYSTEM TODAY…
They called ObamaCare’s mandate unconstitutional…
Then Ohio courts called Ohio residents signature list to get ObamaCare repeal on the ballot VALID. They will be having that on the ballot in Ohio. ( http://url2it.com/gnca )
YIPEE!!!
Report Post »Eyeball
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:37pmProgressivism runs deep in this country, and one day we need to have a whitch hunt to root them all out.
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:46pmYou don’t need a witch hunt. They are bringing the destruction of our economic system. Once it collapses, the Libs will not be able to provide for themselves, nor will they have prepared. Let them starve. Wealth creators of the world should go on strike… just like Atlas Shrugged.
BE PREPARED.
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoStinkingBadges
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:47pmWe don’t need no (witch) hunt to track down these stinkin’ traitors … their coven is Washington DC. Burn that and their spell is broken.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:52pmMy collection of VOODOO dolls keeps getting larger. Made in Kenya, too!!!!
Report Post »mr anarchy
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 8:02pmi see lots of ayn rand fans here the austrian school of economics is not american
Report Post »she had nothing to do with america’s founding our founders jefferson madison
hell even george washington would laugh these clowns right out of the political world
teaparty= neo nazi boot lickers… thats all they are
Windsong
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:32pmThis gives nw energy to the idea of either term or age limits on all Judges. Many Judges have decided to throw the Constitution out the window in favor of whatever social or political agenda they have. Oh, and Judges? The United States of America didn‘t get into the abyssmal shape it’s in by politicians alone…many of you contributed just as much as Washington to the moral, ethical and financial failure in this country.
Report Post »Together, you are in danger of losing the credibility and respect that the American people have always afforded you. All that you’ve accomplished, Sir, is to cement the belief that no Judge should have a lifetime appointment. The ‘Judges’ today seem to be getting bored with the Constitution. I mean, what‘s more fun than gathering together on a Saturday night and playing ’How to have fun changing the Constitution‘ with your other ’Judge’ friends.
It’s simple, Sir. I can’t respect anyone who decides to make his or her own law, while disregarding the lives of the citizens you are supposed to be defending. I vote for term limits of twelve years, but no more. And, Obamacare and all other ‘regulations’ will apply to all Judges, politicians and government employees. You want to change the law for the American people, then you will live under the exact same conditions you impose.
Sicboy
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:36pmThis judge and rick perry would get along just fine. Some people call perry a conservative too. But he’s not. Look at his WHOLE record, he’s not a conservative. Just a politician trying to fool the people. How did perry become a millionaire while holding office?
Report Post »semihardrock
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:29pmA Political statement from a Judge? THE SAME DAY another Judge makes judgment on Obamacare ACCORDING TO THE RULE of LAW!
Report Post »Black Manta
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:32pmWhat is law?
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoStinkingBadges
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:48pmOr badges?
Report Post »ChuckJ
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:26pmAnd yet another reason to get of some people out of office.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:25pmThe Judge never stops blinking, and he often looks down to his left. Need a body language expert to analyze.
Report Post »Tickdog
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:25pmworthless.. and this idiot is a judge?
Report Post »TinSoldier
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:22pmHe “airs” on the conservative side?
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:27pmhis new old timers pills have been infused with communist flavors,
Report Post »Texas Hills Patriot
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:22pmIf suggesting the president should go around the law is not a reason to have this judge removed from the court, I don’t know what would be.
Report Post »jim
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:21pmPosner is a scary man… an activist judge who sits on the bench to affect socialist policy, not to weigh cases with respect to the Constitution. The U. of Chicago is one of the biggest disgraceful blights on our educational system… nothing but destructive abhorrent policy makers come out of that horrible “school” of radicals.
Report Post »bhelmet
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:21pmHow is this NOT grounds for impeachment?
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:19pm“Airs” on the Conservative side? I wonder if that is supposed to say “ERRS” of the Conservative side?
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:21pmOh, I missed that. Maybe they mean his flatulence is conservative.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:14pm@Islesfordian
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:21pm
Oh, I missed that. Maybe they mean his flatulence is conservative.
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LOL that’s funny. I’m thinking it was certainly an “error” on the writers part because since first appearing it’s been edited. The “air” went bye bye!
kentuckypatriot
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:19pmI knew he was from Chicago, I just knew it! And they say he’s a conservative judge? Could’ve fooled me!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 8:16pmtwerps like him are first to go in a lawless world…… open that door to bypassing the law and why would any law have meaning?
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:19pmAir’s? Really?
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:19pmjust another george soros payed employee,
Report Post »mr anarchy
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 7:55pmyou are another nazi who follows austrian school of economics… tell us how the founders wanted taxation mofo.. tell us you paleo-nazi austrian school know nothing of our founders piece of fecal matter
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:17pmChicago?? Conservative??? Constitutional??
I’m from Konnecticut, He is as conservative as most Republican Politicians here , and as liberal as all DEMOCRATS
Can you say brain hemmorage(SP)??
Report Post »Twinspeedr
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:15pmObviously we are NOT still “all there”. Time to retire.
Report Post »skippy6
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:14pmKing Obama!!!! just go around the system!!!! what a joke!!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:14pm“Posner is a Senior Lecturer at University of Chicago Law School”
Report Post »OK, enough said.
commonsenseguy
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:20pmdang it gonzo, that was my thought, what the heck, i guess all this heat is working on my brain,
Report Post »have a great day, and PRAY FOR RAIN, not just for Texas, but every where,
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:25pm“Chicago Law School” was enough to say it all.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:25pmExactly what I thought!! Going around congress on the debt ceiling just might have been the last straw for the country. Glad he was smart enough to not try that!
Report Post »AlansTigg
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:12pmthey’re everywhere
Report Post »Dr. Insane O
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:11pmRetire Gramps.
It isn’t 1968
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