Feds Propose to Open an Unmanned Border Crossing With Mexico to Upgrade Security
- Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:12pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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(The Blaze/AP) The bloody drug war in Mexico shows no sign of relenting. Neither do calls for tighter border security amid rising fears of spillover violence.
This hardly seems a time the U.S. would be willing to allow people to cross the border legally from Mexico without a customs officer in sight. But in this rugged, remote West Texas terrain where wading across the shallow Rio Grande undetected is all too easy, federal authorities are touting a proposal to open an unmanned port of entry as a security upgrade.
By the spring, kiosks could open up in Big Bend National Park allowing people from the tiny Mexican town of Boquillas del Carmen to scan their identity documents and talk to a customs officer in another location, at least 100 miles (160 kilometers) away.
The crossing, which would be the nation’s first such port of entry with Mexico, has sparked opposition from some who see it as counterintuitive in these days of heightened border security. Supporters say the crossing would give the isolated Mexican town long-awaited access to U.S. commerce, improve conservation efforts and be an unlikely target for criminal operations.
“People that want to be engaged in illegal activities along the border, ones that are engaged in those activities now, they’re still going to do it,” said William Wellman, Big Bend National Park’s superintendent. “But you’d have to be a real idiot to pick the only place with security in 300 miles (480 kilometers) of the border to try to sneak across.”
The proposed crossing from Boquillas del Carmen leads to a vast expanse of rolling scrub, cut by sandy-floored canyons and violent volcanic rock outcroppings. The Chihuahuan desert wilderness is home to mountain lions, black bears and roadrunners, sparsely populated by an occasional camper and others visiting the 800,000-acre (320,000-hectare) national park.
Customs and Border Protection, which would run the port of entry, says the proposal is a safe way to allow access to the town’s residents, who currently must travel 240 road miles (390 road kilometers) to the nearest legal entry point. It also would allow park visitors to visit the town.
If the crossing is approved, the Border Patrol would have eight agents living in the park in addition to the park’s 23 law enforcement rangers.
“I think it’s actually going to end up making security better,” CBP spokesman William Brooks said.
“Once you‘ve crossed you’re still not anywhere. You‘ve got a long ways to go and we’ve got agents who are in the area. We have agents who patrol. We have checkpoints on the paved roads leading away from the park.”
A public comment period runs through Dec. 27 on the estimated $2.3 million project, which has support at the highest levels of government from both countries.
But U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul, a Texas Republican member of the House Homeland Security committee, questioned the wisdom of using resources to make it easier to cross the border.
“We need to use our resources to secure the border rather than making it easier to enter in locations where we already have problems with illegal crossings,” McCaul said in an email. “There is more to the oversight of legal entry than checking documents. (U.S. Customs and Border Protection) needs to be physically present at every point of entry in order to inspect for contraband, detect suspicious behavior and, if necessary, act on what they encounter.”
While CBP will run the port of entry, the National Park Service is the driver behind the project, which it hopes will help conservation efforts on both sides of the border. Even as the National Park Service has increased cooperation with its Mexican counterpart, joint conservation has been limited by the inability of personnel to cross the border without making a circuitous 16-hour drive, Wellman said.
So the National Park Service is building the contact station just above the Rio Grande. It will house CBP kiosks where crossers will scan in their documents and talk to a customs officer in Presidio, the nearest port of entry, or another remote location. Park service employees will staff the station, offering information about the park and guiding people through the process.
Similar ports of entry are already in operation on remote parts of the border with Canada.
“We think we can do this without doing any damage to national security and possibly enhance security along the border by having better intelligence, better communication with people in Mexico,” Wellman said.
The crossing would also restore a long-running relationship between the park, its visitors and the residents of Boquillas del Carmen, the town of adobe dwellings set a short distance from the river in Mexico.
For years, U.S. tourists added an international dimension to their park visit by wading or ferrying in a rowboat across the shallow Rio Grande to the town. There they bought handicrafts and tacos, providing much-needed cash in the isolated community.
But US officials discouraged such informal crossings in 2002 after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks prompted calls for tighter border security. Without access to tourists or supplies on the U.S. side, the town of just more than 100 people has seen a 42 percent drop in population from 2000 to 2010.
Gary Martin, who manages the Rio Grande Village store at a nearby park campground, recalls many Mexican residents crossing the river to pick up groceries and other necessities.
“We’re their supply,” Martin said. “They don’t have any electricity over there. So they would come here and buy frozen chicken, cake mixes and things that they couldn’t get over there.”
Martin tried to stock food items Boquillas del Carmen residents wanted, such as eggs and big sacks of beans.
“After the border closed, well, I got rid of most of my food and went back to gifts because I wasn’t making any money,” Martin said. He estimated about 40 percent of the store’s revenue came from Boquillas residents.
Few have risked crossing to the store since. “If they get caught over here they get shipped off,” he said. “They get deported all the way to Ojinaga and then they’ve got to find their way home. It’s not really worth it.”
Still, most days some Boquillas del Carmen residents wade across the river a short distance downstream of the old crossing and scramble up to a paved overlook perched high above the river.
On boulders near the parking spots they lay out painted walking sticks, scorpions and roadrunners crafted from copper wire and colorful beads. Each craftsman’s work occupies a different rock and operates on the honor system with the hope tourists will drop four or five dollars in their jar.
“Sometimes we don’t sell anything,” said Boquillas del Carmen resident Guillermo Gonzalez Diaz. “Sometimes we sell one.” And other times authorities confiscate everything.
Gonzalez, a 34-year-old father of three, described his town as “very sad, very hard” and said there was no work. Without access to the Rio Grande Village store, residents depend on a bus that runs once a week to Melchor Muzquiz, a larger town about 150 miles (240 kilometers) away, for supplies.
A small military presence protects the town from the drug-related violence that has engulfed other Mexican border towns. Now with news of the port of entry, residents are already making plans for restaurants and shops, he said.
“When it closed nobody crossed and everything went downhill. People began to leave,” he said. “Now people are going to return.”
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Comments (221)
MrMagoo
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:03pm“While Customs Border Protection will run the port of entry, the National Park Service is the driver behind the project,”…
So The National Park Service is transforming into border agents now?They are out of control and something don’t seem right here,no matter how rosy this story tries to make it out to be..
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:09pm@MrMagoo
Report Post »Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:03pm
‘So The National Park Service is transforming into border agents now?They are out of control and something don’t seem right here,no matter how rosy this story tries to make it out to be..’
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FEMA camps can’t be far behind!
MrMagoo
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:16pmBaikonur
“FEMA camps can’t be far behind!”
No doubt.I would’nt put anything past this government,especially under Barry’s control.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:32pmBarry, Bush, Clinton…
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:38pmFema camps and the military advertising for “Internment Specialists” have been in the news lately. Yikes!
Report Post »Build the fence!!! If it works for Israel & the Saudis, it’ll work for us.
People, if we don’t get these people out of DC soon, we won’t have a country left.
Grab the torches & pitchforks!
Eliasim
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:41pmHey, I’ve got an idea. Let’s enslave all the people of the U.S, and take away their things to keep the rest of the world from collapsing? Oh wait a minute. They are already putting the tools in place to do that.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:43pmYour time is short America, and so I guess you better wake up while you can.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:45pmThe world is about to break open their emergency piggy-bank known as America.
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:55pmGet ready, they want a NAU badly and the Amero to match… (Wasnt the Canadian border in the news the other day…)
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 6:27pmI think the real question is….. Who is selling the taxpayers the equipment for this crossing? Follow the money folks.
Report Post »Sniper342
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 7:05pmOnly the federal beuracracy that we call a government would put the granola cops at the National Park Service in charge of this. What the hell are they going to spend 3 million dollars on. It’s an unmanned crossing! And they stated right in the article that it won’t stop the criminals from doing what they are doing. Somehow I find myself amazed again daily at the idiocy that is our government (or lack thereof) and the assanine new ways that they come up with to spend money for nothing. Fire them all! Run the loons out of Washington and start over
Report Post »TheCoffinMaker
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:07pmWhy not save the taxpayers some money and just widen one of their drug-running tunnels?
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:08pmIs it me, or do these ideas get stupider everyday?
Report Post »vbklein
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:13pmThey have already spent several million dollars getting to this point, and the facilities are being built at this time. There have been several different ceremonies with border patrol and senators getting it done. check out the Big Bend Gazette or Alpine Avelanche for details
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:14pmPlease support Gov Rick Perry for President…a conservative AND a veteran..GOD BLESS
Report Post »http://www.rickperry.org/
The-Monk
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:19pmS.1867 — National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (Engrossed in Senate [Passed Senate] – ES)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:2:./temp/~c112YBbvbb::
For those of you who do know about this Bill please read it and read to the following links; these links have nothing to do with the part of the Bill that wants to allow Bestiality in the US Military. That part is just too sick.
Report Post »1- Army posts job for “Internment Specialist” following KRB (Halliburton subsidiary) call for FEMA Camp Subcontractors;
http://www.infowars.com/army-posts-job-for-internment-specialist-following-kbr-call-for-fema-camp-subcontractors/
(“Every soldier that enlists in the Army chooses a Military Occupational Specialty (MOS),” writes Robert Johnson. “Designated by a number and a letter, the 31E MOS now includes advanced responsibilities including command and control of prisoner of war and civilian internee camps.” “The job is related to the subcontractor work announced by KBR: “Supervise and establish all administrative, logistical and food support operations, confinement/correctional, custodial, treatment, and rehabilitative activities.”)
2- Government activating FEMA Camps across US;
http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-government-activating-fema-camps-across-u-s/
(Internment Camp Services Bid Arrives After NDAA; KBR’s call for FEMA camp service bids arrives soon after the Senate overwhelmingly passed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) w
Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:19pm“HE mR pRESIDENT!“ ”THEY‘RE TALKING BUILDING ATM’S!“ ”HOW MANY JOBS WILL THAT DESTROY?
Report Post »Did you notice how this story sounds like “Bottom up, top down, INSIDE OUT!”? SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE WE’RE TRYING TO FIGHT OUR WAY OUT OF A BURLAP BAG, AND WE CAN HEAR THE RUSHING RIVER BELOW, AND FEEL THE ROPE BEING DRAGGED DOWN BY THE LEAD WEIGHT!!!
We’ve gone in 1 generation from “GOD BLESS AMERICA” TO “PLEASE GOD SAVE AMERICA” AND KNOW IT‘S BECAUSE THE RABBLE ROUSERS OF THE 60’s WENT INTO politics and our university systems, INSTEAD OF THE PRISONS WHERE THEY BELONGED!
The-Monk
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:19pmContinued….
Report Post »which permits the military to detain and interrogate supposed domestic terror suspects in violation of the Fourth Amendment and Posse Comitatus.
Services up for bid include catering, temporary fencing and barricades, laundry and medical services, power generation, refuse collection, and other services required for temporary “emergency environment” camps located in five regions of the United States.)
3- Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirements;
http://static.infowars.com/2011/12/i/general/kbr-doc.pdf
(“The Continental US will be broken up into five regions as indicated in the map below Services will be required in each State within each region.”
“The personnel on site to be covered by these services will depend on the size and scope of the recovery effort, but for estimating purposes the camp will range in size from 301 to 2,000 persons for up to 30 days in length”.)
The-Monk
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:22pm@YoungBloodNews
Report Post »Hey YoungBloodNews; How have you been doing? Haven’t heard from you in a while.
Clara88
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:22pmGov. Rick Perry…
“The idea this president now, with Iran getting one of our predator drones in their possession, and he had opportunities — he had two choices. Actually, he had three. He chose the worse. And those two opportunities he had was to either retrieve that drone or to destroy it. And he did the worst of the three. And he did absolutely nothing. And the Russians and the Chinese will have our highly technical equipment now. This president IS the problem,” Perry said at the ABC News debate in Des Moines, Iowa
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:28pm@Sniper342
Report Post »Posted on December 11, 2011 at 7:05pm
Only the federal beuracracy that we call a government would put the granola cops at the National Park Service in charge of this. What the hell are they going to spend 3 million dollars on. It’s an unmanned crossing! And they stated right in the article that it won’t stop the criminals from doing what they are doing. Somehow I find myself amazed again daily at the idiocy that is our government (or lack thereof) and the assanine new ways that they come up with to spend money for nothing. Fire them all! Run the loons out of Washington and start over
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There running a contest, “Who can spend America deepest in debt by 2012, whoever blows the most money with the least to show for it wins a seat in the Planners Commission of “THE NEWSTATES” PER THEIR CONSTITUTION “Go ahead search the web for it, it DOES EXIST, AND IT”S CHILLING, IT COMES TO US VIA THE CZARS, VAN JONES ET AL.!!!
The-Monk
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:37pm@Clara88
Report Post »Same thing Bill Clinton did… he gave China our Ballistic Missile technology for campaign contributions via Al Gore and some stupid Monks.
colt1860
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:48pm@Clara88
Bank of America Lobbyist Tells Rick Perry They’ll Help Him Out
youtube.com/watch?v=1F0RQLFybtw
Perry’s North American Highway
youtube.com/watch?v=yXdhph3pwXk
Perry signed a Bill giving instate tuition to illegal aliens, rejected a proposed bill resembling that of Arizona‘s SB1070, and hasn’t done much to stop the growing population of illegal aliens and size of sanctuary Cities in his own State. Many of the jobs created in Texas are federally funded jobs and Government positions. One of the reasons why buisnesses are moving to Texas is because there is abundant cheap labour without the hassle of companies having to give benefits or long term contracts to their employees, thanks to illegal aliens. His dealings with certain companies and their interests concerns me, see his support for the Trans-Texas Corridor (a massive private-land grab and intended for a NAU) and his executive order for an HPV Vaccine, aimed at little girls. His State’s debt has doubled during his Governorship. Texas has ranked, during his two terms, as one of the lowest perfoming States in Public Education. About 60,000 anchor babies are born in his State annually. He had originally avoided or ignored a proposed bill restricting the TSA. That’s just his record, not really my opinion.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:58pmSo YOU would prefer Mitt OR Newt….NOT MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Veterans are supporting a VETERAN….Gov Rick Perry
Report Post »Our military deserves a Commander In Chief they can be PROUD of and RESPECT
GOD BLESS OUR BRAVE MILITARY AND OUR BELOVED BRAVE VETERANS
http://www.rickperry.org/veterans/
colt1860
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:07pm@Clara88 If I had to choose between those three, then yes, I’d go with Perry. But they’re not the only ones running right now.
Report Post »That Guy
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:31pmWe get strip searched at the airport… Unmanned border crossing, who needs to watch that… nothing to see here, just keep getting raped by the TSA…
Report Post »random357
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:37pmOnly a liberal would call this unmanned port of entry a security upgrade. Whats next are they
going to say 2 + 2 = 5 and yellow is red?
Looks like the war on drugs and illegal immigrants is over and the USA surrendered.
Report Post »MetalPatriot
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:53pm@Monk
I went to your link. What organization made that…basically, where’d it come from? What is the implication? That we’re going to be herded into camps so that Hispanics can takeover territory? I can see that happening. But, we’re just conspiracy idiots…things are going fine…according to plan.
There’s a person in this blog that has an avatar with Aztlan as the southwestern U.S. Territory. If people don’t think the Aztecs are trying to rebuild the lost empire, think again. With no facts other than my own limited observation, I believe a vast majority of the gangs & drug cartels are the builders of that nation. Could be totally wrong, but I believe it personally based on racial demographics I see here in SoCal, & the population in prisons. Again, no facts, just opinion.
I always appreciate legitimate correspondences & will reply respectfully.
Report Post »ericnnnghm@msn.com
Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:20pmSorry my link didn’t paste on that constitution Pasted from: http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/concon/newstates.htm
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:11pmIs it just me, or does it seem as though the government is actively destroying our nation? our laws and our sovereignty?
Report Post »GriffNC
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:13pmFirst time commenting , hope this goes to the right place , this is not a reply to MRMagoo
Report Post »Here is our sign !!!!!
Sniper342
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:07am@ Mil Mom… Thanks for the link. You are correct that is enlightening and frightening.
Report Post »Buildingforcash
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:12amOnly our government would call leaving one unmanned door to the prison open a security upgrade
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:14am“We need more security, so we’re gonna open an unmanned border crossing.”
SABOTEURS!
Abolish the Dept of Homeland Security.
Secure our borders by CLOSING them, not opening unmanned crossings.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:15am“…Once you‘ve crossed you’re still not anywhere. You‘ve got a long ways to go and we’ve got agents who are in the area. We have agents who patrol. We have checkpoints on the paved roads leading away from the park.”…”
Report Post »and those agents are doing a really good job now, aren’t they? Gawd, I can’t believe the circular thinking of these libs. These people have no business consuming O2.
Who really cares if the Mexicans have to drive 200 miles to a legal checkpoint? This is just another nail in the coffin of Amerika’s drug war.
JRook
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 11:54amTexas would be a great place to pilot a program of fining individuals and businesses $250,000 per occurrence for the hiring of illegal aliens. The jobs are the inducement and the individuals and businesses who exploit these workers, by and large >95%, know they are illegal when they are hiring them. Stop the inducement, reduce the number of illegal aliens and lower the unemployment rate. Individuals and businesses who hire these workers pay them off the books in most instances, so are also guilty of multiple employment and tax laws. They are not entrepreneurs or job creators, they are common criminals.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:31pmThe Park Service, Forest Service and BLM have had armed law enforcement for many years. My wife worked for the Forest Service and carried a Model 1911 .45 APC ever day.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:21pmSome of them may get shot as well. Poor idea.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:00pmGood for the little Mexican town, good for the Americans who used to visit there, good for people who run the grocery stores on the US side, everyone wins. There is no effect on illegal activity one way or another.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:23pmYou sure seem to know a lot about the affairs of our country.
For someone who claims to live in Western Europe, that is.
Considering all the love you profess for Pelosi, I’ll lay odds that you are from Frisco.
Report Post »LouC57
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:26pmDude, are you nuts or just sarcastic?
Report Post »I grew up in Hell Paso (El Paso), and back in the day border crossing was no big deal, and YES we did rely on mostly Mexicans for nannies, housekeepers, gardeners, and the usual farm workers.
Sadly times have changed.
No borders, language, culture = NO COUNTRY.
Therightsofbilly
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 6:21pm@LOUC57
She is not being sarcastic.
Sad, but true.
Report Post »GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:02pmLOUC57,
Report Post »That’s right!. No borders, No language, No Culture = No country.
No Multiculturalism!!!
You can’t lose your country as Europeans did!!!
Every day is more evident the attempt of this Administration to take down your country and “spread it” to others.
Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:25pm@GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:02pm
LOUC57,
That’s right!. No borders, No language, No Culture = No country.
No Multiculturalism!!!
You can’t lose your country as Europeans did!!!
Every day is more evident the attempt of this Administration to take down your country and “spread it” to others
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Not to worry, Van Jones, & most of the Czars have been working on a replacement since 1974, Their almost ready to reveal their creation & it’s chilling! Try this:
SECTION 6. Each shall pay whatever share of governmental costs is consistent with fairness to all.
SECTION 7. Each shall refuse awards or titles from other nations or their representatives except as they be authorized by law.
SECTION 8. There shall be a responsibility to avoid violence and to keep the peace; for this reason the bearing of arms or the possession of lethal weapons shall be confined to the police, members of the armed forces, and those licensed under law.
Pasted from
SECTION 15. If governments of the Newstates fail to carry out fully their constitutional duties, their officials shall be warned and may be required by the Senate, on the recommendation of the Watchkeeper, to forfeit revenues from the Newstates of America
Report Post »SECTION 6. The Overseer, with the administrators and other officials, shall:
a. Provide the means for discussion, in each party, of public issues, and, f
Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:44pm@GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:02pm
LOUC57,
That’s right!. No borders, No language, No Culture = No country.
No Multiculturalism!!!
You can’t lose your country as Europeans did!!!
Every day is more evident the attempt of this Administration to take down your country and “spread it” to others
****
Not to worry, Van Jones & Most of the Czars have been working on a replacement since 1974 and are all ready and anxious to put their years of work into place . Just check out this:
SECTION 6. Each shall pay whatever share of governmental costs is consistent with fairness to all.
SECTION 7. Each shall refuse awards or titles from other nations or their representatives except as they be authorized by law.
SECTION 8. There shall be a responsibility to avoid violence and to keep the peace; for this reason the bearing of arms or the possession of lethal weapons shall be confined to the police, members of the armed forces, and those licensed under law.
Pasted from
Report Post »chips1
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:57pmI’d say that William Brooks is a product of the Peter Principal. He is 2 levels higher than his I.Q.
Report Post »ares338
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:57pmSi Señor I promise I don’t have eeeny drugs on me….honest!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:56pmWhat if they build an unmanned gate so Mexico has even less restriction than the gates at the subway stations in NYC?
BRILLIANT I tell ya, brilliant.
Um, they already have that gate that stretches from Texas to the Pacific coast in California.
Report Post »drbage
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:00pmWill there be water stations? Will SEIU be there to recruit?
Report Post »All brought to you by Big Sis, “Lying is dependent on your state of mind” Holder, and Obummer.
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 6:59pmWell I would certainly hope so. We sure don’t want illegals dying of thirst in the process of committing a crime after-all!
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:31pmBut certainly they’ll need more UNIONIZED TSA to molest people at both sides of the crossing? What if someone tries to cross with an unbroken colostomy bag, or an artificial joint?
Report Post »Civil-Z
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:56pmEvery time I hear the fence argument as a standalone point I have to think. That should not be what comes out of this little bite of news. The states are a test bed for new ideas. This idea is testing an open society and how to make it automated for centralized control of the population abroad. Be careful not to wrapped up in the anti-immigrant conversation. That isn’t the real what you are seeing. What you are seeing is a testing ground for how a one world government would control populations. Just like the unmanned drones will be centralized control over the masses. Not conspiracy theory, because it is easy to control military personnel. It is ingrained to follow orders and to accept ridiculous concepts and follow. These factors have to make you stop and say what part of the population will be controlling all these automated systems in the future. Think a little deeper on these things and open your mind to the possibilities.
Report Post »shazam3
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:14pmMy thoughts exactly. This is just a talking point for the Globalists in the future if it’s reasonably succesfull for the locals for two weeks until the gangs and the coyotes take over with their forged papers. They will have to spend millions for a hospital to take care of the pregnant women who want their anchor babies and then all the free stuff that they think their due. This is just the most stupid thing I have ever heard…
Report Post »hilltoparabians
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 6:17pm2 things: First, if the town is dwendling let’s send them the 11+ million illegals that are on the wrong side of the boarder. That will make their town boom.
Report Post »Second, will we all have to show IDs via kiosks to move from place to place in the future?
This is another F&F but in the wrong direction and with people instead of guns (or maybe they will bring their guns with them and G… knows what else).
I wonder what kind of conservation the volcanic rocks need? Anyone?
valleyfever
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:53pmWe pay good money to incompetent civil servants to come up with solutions like this to our serious border problems. The lunatics are running the asylum!!
Why not fire all those who now have anything to do with border security and hire back contractor bounty hunters to patrol the line. Pay them a commission on every illegal alien they catch. They would secure that border pretty quick.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:01pmBack in the 60′s we received a box of rounds for each illegal we turned over to the BP. Maybe 1 box a year was good. The government couldn’t afford 1 round in this environment.
Report Post »johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:12pmHey, bubba, I can beat that one!
Place one million dollars in each of five numbered accounts in the US, representing five geographic sectors along the border commanded by five Mexican Army Generals.
Everytime we apprehend an illegal on our side, $1,000.00 would be deducted from that sector’s account. That border would be tight as a tick after two months!
Will we do it? Hell no, way too much payoffs and corruption. Witness the ATF and their “Fast and Furious” stupidity.
Obama really doesn’t want that border secured. When the hammer falls, he’ll revel in the chaos all those infiltrated Iranian special forces will bring all across America. Shopping malls, grammer schools, any soft target will do. Ever stopped to imagine what six trained Iranians with fully automatic AK47′s could do in a mall on Saturday afternoon? Obama, Holder and Napalitano have and they just don‘t give a rat’s ass. Obama has “unindicted co-conspirators” from terror trials to the White House for dinner for Christ’s sake.
No mainstream media coverage. Hell, this comment won’t even be published at this site.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:52pmWell, them coming here to trade, do business worth us, buy and sell is not the problem. I mean, before 9/11, and many years before that, the US protected the border but also allowed foreign Citizens to cross without much trouble. THE DIFFERENCE was that as they came here, they had no right to buy land, open up a store, create a radio station, send their kids to our schools, receive food stamps, get free lunch for their kids, access to our court system, legal representation or counsel, Government funded interpreters, apply for Medicare or Government run services, receive birthright citizenship for their babies, get a driver’s license, rent a house, seek representation or help from our elected officials, get a job, open up a bank account, get a bank loan, be accepted for a mortgage, buy a car on lease, receive instate tuition, get a license to do operate a business, etc. They did not have any incentive to stay here if they came to visit here. And hey, we actually enforced our laws, and didn’t let them do anything under the table. We actually cared about our own Citizens and our own towns. We must cut off all special benefits and whatnot given to illegal aliens. Even with an easy entry border, we wouldn‘t have an illegal immigration problem if we didn’t reward those who came here illegally. And that is the root of the problem. History proves it. America was a vast open land before, but it never gave entitlement programs or welfare to anyone, citizen or not.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:07pmI was going to post my own comment but after reading your I felt there was no need. You said it better than I would have anyway.
An absolutly great and honest post.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:32pmHell yes! Said well.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:49pm3.2 million dollars for a dirt road? Are you kidding me? The dirt is already there so just make it flat!!! I’ll do it with my tractor for $300,000 and that includes the cost of the tractor.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:06pmLeave it to the Government to create a marble road in the middle of a dessert. I remember seeing pictures of the old USA with dirt roads, even on major highways and central roads. But this was when endless borrowing, printing money, and spending without limit were unheard of. But I guess Progressivism also means laziness, greed, selfishness, and entitled luxury. What happened to hard work, respect, integrity, frugality, thankfulness, pioneering, godliness, agronomy, independence, value of time, and living within our own means? In our culture and society today we have a belief that Government must make our lives easier (meaning we work less for ourselves) and we must advance in our lives with the financial aid of Government (our fellow neighbor
Report Post »s money). This entitlement mentality must be put to an end.
Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:40pmYour talking Lava Rock, YOU MUST HAVE QUITE A TRACTOR!
Report Post »notreally
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:48pmDiscrimination against white males is equal rights for all.
Christian symbols on public property is the establishment of a state religion.
Giving civil trials to terrorists who want us dead is equal protection under the law.
Granting mortgages to people who don’t have a dime in their pockets is social justice.
Government spending us into bankruptcy won’t lead to bankruptcy.
Teaching our kids that Amerika is evil is a good education.
Socialism is what the Founders sought in the Constitution.
And now, opening the borders enhances border security.
Those who control the meaning of words control the future.
We are at the end-time of American freedom if we don‘t destroy the demcrats’ agenda, and all their media allies, to bring our beloved nation to its knees.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:50pmAnd our Burlap bag seems to be falling faster and faster, is that the Rio Grande or an ocean I hear? “Help, Someone please catch this bag and let America out, before we DROWN!”
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:47pmCould end all problems,Just let Obo make
Report Post »Mexico 58th. state.
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:53pmRotflmao
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:30pmWe should annex Mexico & divide into several states. I believe that America should annex any country if 50% or more other country has emigrated to the States legally or illegally. We would have a dozen new Hispanic Senators.
Ti would be funny if party politics changed & the Hispanics no longer needed the Democrats.
It would be funnier too if the new Mexican American citizens were against immigration from south of Mexico like they are now. the poor progressives wouldn’t know what to do.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:48amIt actually might be cheaper and work better.Maybe not all of mexico but the northern states.Its the poorest part of mexico from a resource perspective.Many of the citizens from there move north and south for work and resources.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:44pmWho voted for those dumb dipstick in Washington?….BUILD THE D-A-M-N FENCE ….NOW!!!!!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:14pmA border fence along the whole border will take years to build and an unknown amount of money. What we should do, if we want results now, is place a fence only in strategic places, and allow private land owners to actually defend their homes against invasion without legal repercussions.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 7:20pmYo Colt;
I bet that a surveilance system could be up and running in months. We transported and entire Army to Iraqi in said time.
I just read a story in a magazine about a rancher that owned 1000 acres and the constant illegals crossing his property, even comming to their house… I’m sorry but I would not want to live that way.
I do not understand why the products the Mexicans cross for could not be made availible to them in Mexico….. but then what do I know…
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:59pm@4truth2all A surveillance system would absolutely work. My point in only placing a fence in certain places (that we can actually personally guard also) is that there are many underground tunnels funded by the drug cartels. A fence wouldn’t really be much of a deterrent for them. As for those ranches, I’ve heard plenty of those stories too. There was a rancher who actually got sued for by for fighting off illegal aliens on his property and had to pay a large sum to them. That’s ridiculous. There are certain cities in these border States where a property owner cannot detain an illegal alien (citizen’s arrest), hold him at gun point if trespassing, or even confront them. They must call border patrol and wait until they get there to deal with the illegal alien. I mean, this border has been opened for about 30+ years now, these coyotes and drug cartels have a pretty good advantage and have all their bases covered. What some politicians consider border security will not do much, as it is only to give us the illusion that their trying to secure the border and enforce our laws.
Report Post »Mtroom
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 11:50amI wish people would get off this fence stuff…It will do more damage ti all aspects of life on the boarder ….The thing I see is a need for military presence..A border with real humans to asses the situations in countered…I live close enough to the border and see and hear a lot from both sides of the border…The majority of the flow seems to be fleeing a battle zone …The violence in some border towns is out of control..I really can’t bring myself to send a mother of 5 and her children back into that type of life..Seems crazy to me… We could use some troops, and something like a red cross that can make the right decisions about the people entering the US…Not a computer…This small town in Mexico seems like a good relation and should be treated as such…Opening a trade route with it is a good thing for both sides, but there has to be a better solution ..The difference between illegal and refugee needs to be better defined, some of these families have no where to turn…I just feel that the few are hurting the many here…The world need to hear some of these stories these families have from Mexico…I do not believe they show enough…There is fighting going on in Mexico that rivals any violent country in the world and no one is doing anything about it…Placing some troops at different locations will slow a lot of the violence down, and all the troops would have to do is train around the area…Seems to me that would be some good on the job training.
Report Post »JQCitizen
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:41pmIs ANYONE surprised that THIS ADMINISTRATION would make CONSERVATION a HIGHER PRIORITY than SECURING OUR BORDER, especially before a TOUGH ELECTION for the Criminal in Chief?
Report Post »JustJason
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:41pmIts all about importing voter fraud and Latin American communists.
Report Post »Agnes
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:14pmWe just make sure that the clown and his croonies leave Washington. Do you think they would rather go to Mexico than Chicago?
Report Post »KingDork
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:39pmThis is like taking a test with over 100 true or false questions… and getting every one wrong.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:42pmThese idiots managed to get 102 WRONG.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:58pm@82dAirborne
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These idiots managed to get 102 WRONG
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and ,MISSPELLED HIS NAME, BUT HEY, IT‘S NOT LIKE HE COULDN’T COPY IT OFF ONE OF HIS MANY BIRTH CERTIFICATES!
Rogue
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:39pmDoJ is also proposing that an ATF-run assault rifle shop be set up on the US side of the border, with free delivery to Mexico on purchases of 2 guns or more.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:29pm@Rogue
Report Post »Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:39pm
DoJ is also proposing that an ATF-run assault rifle shop be set up on the US side of the border, with free delivery to Mexico on purchases of 2 guns or more
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No paperwork, No Waiting Period, No Questions, Will Accept: Visa, American Express, Mater Card OR 3 KILO’s OF THE DRUG OF YOUR CHOICE!
navypop
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:38pmwhy not ? we gave them guns now lets let them come in un checked .. sounds like an obama plan , and when it fails it will be w ‘s fault.. he can’t lose. maybe they will bring the guns back … i didn’t think so.
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:37pmHow convenient!
Report Post »Right in time for the 2012 elections!
That way they can all come over and cast their vote!
After all, polls are not allowed to check status, that would be racist!
Hammerdown
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:36pmThis tops the cake, dumbest thing I have ever heard. Is this an April Fools joke months ahead? Someone needs to be canned for coming up with this “idea”.
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:33pmIf you lazy Americans would work for $5.00 an hour,we would not have to let cheap labor in
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:29pmYes,let them come across to get their welfare,WIC,food stamps and Medicare
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:31pmWhen the global structure collapses, Hispanics by the millions will come across the border. So just do as Glenn Beck is doing and move to Texas.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:53pm@Eliasim
Report Post »Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:31pm
When the global structure collapses, Hispanics by the millions will come across the border. So just do as Glenn Beck is doing and move to Texas
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ESPECIALLY THOSE OF YOU WITH MILITARY TRAINING! We ALWAYS need a FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE!
objectivetruth
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:55amActually they can’t recieve most of the beenies legally.Its also why ID theft is rampant.By the way the reason that some of them collect disability is due to the tax treaty we have with mexico.Its a little complicated and I don’t have time this morning to drag the links for pasting.Guts of it are that their work record from mexico is used for basis of determination.
Report Post »GoldenSage
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:28pmThis government is getting worse with the biggest idiots around. The only thing worse than these idiot government officials is The People who keep putting up with all this by thinking Obama is a ‘nice’ guy. It was ALL Bush when he was president, now, it is everybody ‘but’ Obama, and people still thinks he is such a nice guy. What bull. Al Capone was a nice guy to many people, too. We The People are now the laugh of the world.
Report Post »lcallday
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:25pmSo, would this be our first kinetic border crossing?
Report Post »rlimike
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:24pmWe could have the whole border un-manned & un- fenced all we need is a strip 1/2 mile wide imbedded with anti personnel mines.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 7:10pmthat is what i was thinking but would never post. make sure that warning sings are in several languages with pictures
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:23pmThis will be good! This is going to fix everything!! Is the entire Federal Government insane???????
Report Post »tweet
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:32pmTo answer your question, YES!
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:36pm@TWEET- Thank you. I thought maybe it was just me……….
Report Post »cyclops
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:48pmInsanely lunatic…..
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:04pm@82nd Air — insane is being too optimistic with them. There is more going on here than we anticipate, this is a cover for some other large work, like rumors of a highway route from Mexico to Canada cutting across the US. Not saying this will be part of that, just to illustrate with Mr Obama you can never trust what you are seeing is not a ‘make it acceptable’ kind of decoy or lure.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:30pm@Snow – While I don’t want to believe it’s as sinister as that; it may well be. It’s hard to believe that this administration could make so many horrible & destructive decisions by accident. If you listen to Obama non-teleprompter he doesn’t sound intelligent enough to engineer everything that has happened since he took office.
OMG!!!!
Report Post »(Obama Must Go!!!)
Mil Mom
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:02pm@82dAirborne
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:30pm
@Snow – While I don’t want to believe it’s as sinister as that; it may well be. It’s hard to believe that this administration could make so many horrible & destructive decisions by accident. If you listen to Obama non-teleprompter he doesn’t sound intelligent enough to engineer everything that has happened since he took office.
OMG!!!!
Report Post »(Obama Must Go!!!)
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He was hand picked for this position because his gargantuan ego made him believe he‘s that intelligent while he doesn’t have a clue to what will happen to him when they’re through with him. He’s really just a puppet for the cabal, it’s the PUPPETEER, totus, who’s really spearheading this. DID YOU EVER NOTICE HOW IN THE YEARS SINCE CLINTON, INSTEAD OF QUOTING THE PRESIDENT THE lsm NORMALLY QUOTES THE WHITE HOUSE? IT’S A WONDER HE HAD TO ROBOSIGN THAT BILL WHEN HE WAS OVERSEAS LAST YEAR, MOST OF THE LEFT & LAME STREAM MEDIA KNOW, HE‘S NOT THE ONE THEY FRAUDULENTLY ELECTED IT’S TOTUS!