Feds Raid Million Dollar Home of Welfare Recipient in Washington State
- Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:39pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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Residents of a wealthy lakefront community near Seattle are surprised to learn that one of their neighbors, who has lived in a $1.2 million home for the last 8 years, is the recipient of more than $1,200 a month in public housing vouchers, federal and state disability, and food stamps. King 5 reports on the couple living large on the taxpayer’s dime:
The Seattle PI reports that federal prosecutors filed a civil lawsuit Friday, claiming that Lyudmila Shimonova and her partner, chiropractor David Silverstein, made false claims for federal government housing assistance benefits totaling $135,000.
King 5 says that records show that the cheats have truthfully provided their address when applying for benefits. In addition to a lavish residence, court records indicate that the couple gives money to charity and has traveled to Turkey, Tel Aviv and several resort towns in Mexico.
An unnamed federal official told the station that the housing voucher program provides coupons that help low-income people pay their rent, and allows people to get out of housing projects and move into the place of their choosing. What the program does not do is analyze where people choose to move.






















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Arc
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 2:08amBy all means……VOTE……..Our representatives ARE NOT doing their job………call them, write them, email them…….encourage your neighbors to do the same……….encourage members of your social organizations……….offer to give them a ride to the polls………..Long live the REPUBLIC
Report Post »dwh320
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:46amNot all the facts are here. I know for a fact that ANY housing voucher REQUIRES a inspection from the agency issuing the voucher of the home BEFORE the applicant can move in. Sounds like someone got paid off to falsify reports.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:08amWe NEED more Government Folks !!! More of these
Report Post »SOB’s lining their pockets…the more Agencies’ you have,
the harder they are to Control, not a damn one knows
what the other is doing..especially a Libotard State like
WA. State, bet this isn’t an isolated incident..
Dump this Administration and about 2/3 of Government
Agencies’ ……Bunch of corrupt POS !!
Ruler4You
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:14amI‘m about to loose my home of 16 years struggling and spending the last nickel I have to remain in a home and all the while I’ve been paying taxes so this A H can get a mansion paid for out of my hard work! I’m outraged!
Report Post »steve-in-pa
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:16amCongress needs to implement a new law that states; if you are an able bodied person receiving Government entitlements you need to do community service to pay back the taxpayers who are helping you out. The more money you receive the more hours of service required. You would not give your kid an allowance for doing nothing. You don‘t learn the value of a dollar if it’s just given to you.
Report Post »Nutty News
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:19amIsn’t anyone watching where our mones goes?
Report Post »CALL ME SNAKE
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:39am@Groundzero: Duly noted. What is your point? It was stated that he went to Turkey as well. BTW: Have you started rounding up jews yet? Are the ovens and gas chambers ready or are you just going to shoot them in the head? How long will it take for you and your thugs to kill all the jews? I fear you are too far gone to hate to be saved in this life. May god have mercy on your soul.
Report Post »mikemac
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:44amWell ya gotta live somewhere!
Report Post »bccrane
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:48amThis story is the problem with big government. Government employees must prove they are doing their job, if it is signing up people for welfare you overlook a few things as long as your making your quota, same goes with food stamps. Other agencies continue to pile on regulations to give their employees more things to go out and do their job with, EPA, DEQ, Osha, etc. We had the experience of even government contractors needing to prove they were doing their job during TB testing of cattle in our area, one veternarian was finding no evidence of TB in the herds she was testing while the other veternarian was finding suspect cattle in every herd she tested, well guess which vet kept her contract with the government of course the one finding evidence to continue testing into the future. In our herd she wasn’t finding any reactive cattle until she looked up and realized there were only 11 head left to test so out of those 11, 10 came back reactive and needed to be tested again and when she came back the very first cow that came in the chute she determined it to be suspect the rest were cleared so that cow was shipped out to be slaughtered only to find it didn’t have TB and we found this was happening at every farm she tested.
Report Post »jonrod
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:56amThis is common in Washington State. The majority who work for the state do the very minimum in order to do the jobs that they suppoxedly are required to do. And the public seems to turn a blind eye to someone who is recieving money that they are entitled too, somhow believing that any time tjhat you can fool the state for money it is all right, forgetting or simply ignoring the fadt that it is the Taxpayers not the state that is supplying those cheaters with the aid. Anyone who blatenly recieves money like those mentioned in thw article should have their property forfeited, and should enjoy a vacation in prison for a while. But I repeat if the so called workers in the various departments “Both Statf and Federal” were doing the jobs that they are being payed to do then there would be quite a saving to those enities.
Report Post »GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 11:18am@SNAKE I have no problem w/ Hebrew ppl, it the Jew controlled MSM telling the US ppl what to think that is criminal. Speaking of Turkey: http://nswbc.org/Op%20Ed/Part2-FNL-Nov29-06.htm
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 11:28amWell when your trying to Cloward and Piven all of us you eventually run out of the needy, and when you haven’t sunk the boat yet you gotta do what you gotta do.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:02pmI take NOTHING from the corrupt government.
Report Post »I work for every dime I have.
I am nearly homeless and the water to my house was shut off a week ago due to non-payment.
( I worked for the 130 Dollars It will take to turn it on tomorrow )
I used to average 1400 dollars a week in 1992.
I got shut out by technology in addition to corrupt criminals in Washington manipulating the economy and sending our jobs overseas to redistribute the wealth abroad.
And people don’t understand why I am PI$$ED OFF ??????
oneshiner
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:16pmTo compare: Look at how many of our government & congress steal from us too. Corruption abounds in many forms. I’d almost bet a bunch that half of the people drawing welfare, housing benefits, and food stamps are doing it fraudulently.
Report Post »Knew a professional lady who’s divorced husband went on public assistance and would go to food banks and get extra butter, etc. and share enough with her so she could share it with her friends.
This was firsthand knowledge and it really ticked me off. The lady was a prof. at a local college and made plenty of money.
ashestoashes
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:54pmIf all welfare fraud were stopped..that would help immensely…this is just one example of it.. what about the 338.3 billion paid each year for illegal alien welfare? And how is it right to fund women shelling out one child after another to get welfare checks.?
Report Post »zenjak
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:03pmSo this guy is getting taxpayer money to live in a lavish mansion and does nothing for the country in return…
Sounds like the president.
Report Post »pcj
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 2:04pmGood post Pelosithegreat. This is what we need to do: go after the culprits by phone, email, visits or whatever and watch the state of Washington to make sure they don’t sweep this under the rug. We, the people, will rise up and make our government accountable to us! I sent my message to Dr. Silverstein…..LOL
Report Post »MTCOWBOY711
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 2:14pmI tell my neighbors and anyone who will lend an ear, most dismiss me with complacency and apathy. I was a Red Ripper from 81-83, Donald Shearer was our CO.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 2:23pmPretty outrageous. There has to be a better way to help the truly needed get the help they housing or food help they need. Unfortunately, like most federal programs, food stamps has become a great ATM for the grocery industry. Also, this is akin to Exxon getting $5 billion in federal tax credits.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 2:24pmGuess the Chiropractor was doing the majority of his business in cash to avoid reporting and paying taxes. I’m sure there is no one here doing anything like that.
Report Post »MarciaB
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 3:06pmI will NEVER vote for Newt Gingrich or Mitt Romney by any means..
Report Post »oldschoolgreen
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 3:09pmSteve in PA
Report Post »Sounds like a job right?
MTCOWBOY711
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 3:49pmI was a Red Ripper from 81-83, Don A. Sharer was our CO. Great American who as a hostage in Iran told his captors and fellow patriots, “If you are to shoot us, go ahead, but we will not get on our knees, we stand together.”
Report Post »USDevilDogMom
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:10pmIt’s a fact that all buidings to be used as dwellings have to be inspected. All the appliances have to work properly, even the light bulbs have to work. I was cleaning out some storages in the New Orleans area after Hurricane Katrina & I came across a Section 8 rental list. It gave the address, description of the house & rent amount. I was floored when I saw a lavish house on the Section 8 List in the “Super Rich” area called English Turn. Television Chef Emeril Lagasse had a house built there. I still have the paper somewhere, I’m not exactly sure, but I think the rent there pre-Katrina was $1,400 a month. Rent has escalated since Katrina, more than doubling in most places. At any rate, that cost for anyone to rent a house on Section 8 is outragious and robbing the tax payers.
Report Post »Atrocities
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:12pmYet another example of liberals gaming the liberal State system of WA. Thanks Christen for all the wonderful debt you have saddled WA state with. Oh and we especially love all the new tax increases from sales to gas too. And it was rather nice how you scammed your way into office by “finding” just enough extra votes to cheat Rossi out of his victory. Not once, but twice. Nice to see ACORN doing their job for you. If there is a hell, I hope your name is at the top of the admittance list.
Report Post »ghostsouls
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 11:10pmHow can 2 people on a housing voucher have such a huge house. The house would only be 1 bedroom and only up to the current price a reasonable 2 bedroom would go for. They they would have to have it inspected to make sure it is qualified for the section 8 program…something else is going on here, where are the state and county officials who oversee the housing program????
Report Post »1389AD
Posted on December 6, 2011 at 12:29pmNo more federal housing assistance benefits. Charity should be private and administered locally. Otherwise, it becomes corrupted.
Report Post »libertylouise
Posted on December 6, 2011 at 7:53pmThey Probably Friends of Obama and Thugs.
Report Post »Jstarusa
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 5:30pmIsnt that just peachy keen? Being a disabled senior living on social security only, I get NONE of the above and we do the best we can. But it does seem that part of the story is missing, I sure hope so, because if not its a shame that the system gets abused like that.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:57amwow that’s a nice welfare program .
Report Post »That means I can move to Beverly Hills ?
Where do I sign up ?
All these welfare programs & medical programs should be shut down & start all over again with new guidelines , this can’t go on anymore .
Barry Da Fraud
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:22amThey are just members of the 99% that have been getting what is owed to them for being born. Just wait, Barry Soetoro will have all of the OWSers as their neighbors. After all, it buys votes for Barry….on your dime that is.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:39amthis happens all the time, govt. Can not police its giveaway programs, in Texas 70 % of all illegals are on some sort of welfare, its the new American Dream !!!!!
Report Post »joleary
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:16am@ Coindexter…..careful your bigotry is showing.
Report Post »RoboZiggy
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:50amloleary
Report Post »What’s your problem, he told the truth.
Put down that PC crack pipe and look at what is happening in this country.
hud
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:12amCoindexter yes but this is obummer’s wet dream come true
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:18amYea quit with the pc bs, it is destroying our country. This example shows just how badly the welfare system needs to be reformed and privatized. The government can’t run anything effectively or efficiently. All government programs need to be privatized.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:22amThese people are no different than the banksters and politicans now days.
Report Post »berlich
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:55amThe difference is that the “Banksters” etc.. followed the law as passed by congress. If we don’t like how they behave all we need to do is change the law. These welfare fraudsters are taking money that could be going to someone who has a real need. It could be helping someone provide for themselves. Welfare is supposed to be a safety net, not a permanant income for those who don’t need it.
Report Post »addie
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 5:49pm@ The Truth – WRONG! If you don’t like the banks then I suggest you stop using them. Start paying for everything in cash! Banks are providing a service. These people are flat out THIEVES! You can’t just stop paying taxes yet you can stop going to a bank or using their services.
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:55amAgain, END ALL WELFARE. I don’t care if you are a millionaire or a bum on the street, or some crack whore with 15 kids. It’s unconstitutional. End all welfare, and all forms of entitlement programs.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 6:33amMy handicapped adult son gets SSI (based on the fact that he can’t work, nothing to do with our income). If it went away, I would have to put my husband’s parents on the street because they are living in a house we own together, of which we pay a mortgage (they own their half). The house went on the maket right as the housing market was crashing, over 3 years ago, and hasn’t been able to sell. We could make it without the SSI, but only if we weren’t paying 2 mortgages. It makes me sick that there are millionaires on Welfare and food stamps. All I can think of is Cloward and Piven.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:35amTAX THE RICH….and they are the ones living on the ‘government tit’…….how’s that supposed to work out?
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:47amSo Lorraine…you are spending your sons SSI on your house payment? In efffect you are stealing from me! I would rather you not take from the Government and and let me and others give you the money directly from our offerings at Church. You are no better than the teat sucker named above. that money is for your sons life, not your house payment. get a smaller place.
Report Post »GulfPeg
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:54amYes, end these programs! Including food stamps for “I L L E G A L A L I E N S”! If this is taken away from them, then perhaps they will all self-deport!
Report Post »BarCalliyon
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:55amBaddoggy if you even tried to think for a second you would realize what loriann12 was saying. Her son is on SSI, therefore he is able to not be a burden on his mother who is doing the honorable thing and taking care of her inlaws instead of making them the tax payers problem. So if that goes away we as the tax payer will have 2 people to care for instead of 1. If anything you should be celebrating what a caring and compassionate women she is instead of being negative. If there were more people like her we would have less problems.
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:57amEconomic collapse will right many wrongs. The riots, burning and looting will be tough to go through, but too many welfare parasites will be upset when the checks stop coming. No more EBT credits on the first, no more SSI, no Sec. 8, no Medicaid, reduced Medicare, no prescription drug benefits, etc…
Report Post »It will all be gone, and quite frankly I am looking forward to that day.
BarCalliyon
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:38amAZindependent, you are looking forward to the day when mass amounts of people will starve? When we loose vast amounts of technilogical advances in medicine? People will be reduced to that of societies in third world countries where only having a gun will prevent your neighbor from taking whats yours, and thats if you are not already over run by a group more powerful than you. No thank you I would rather fix what we have now.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:39amActually, you’re allowed to use an SSI check for food and housing. My son tithe’s on his SSI check, giving 10% to the church and gets an allowance to spend anyway he wants to. It is less than the mortgage payment.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 11:16amYes..lwt the handicapped, the elderly and the disabled die in the streets…they would be better off.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 11:42amI have heard that having 11 kids per household has netted them 144,000 a year..
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:23pmBarCalliyon Yes, yes and yes. I am so sick of welfare cheats, disability fakers, paying for Obama’s vacations, medicare fraud, foreign aid, endless wars in places I could care less about. Let the collapse begin, in fact hasten the collapse vote for Obama in 2012. Let Obama drive this country off the cliff into the abyss like the captain of the Titanic .
Report Post »justangry
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:50amThis couple should run for office. They’d fit right in with all the rest of the crooks.
Report Post »Marci
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:56amDid they say Michelle and Barry Obama? Surely they mispelled those names….
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:03amObama’s are the biggest freeloaders of all. Talk about entitlement queen, Moochelle has spent $10 million taxpayer dollars on vacations over the past two years. They are headed to Hawaii for a 17 vacation, to take a break from campaigning which can really wear a guy out. This madness has to end!
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:24amThey must be newts cousins, families tend to think and act alike.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:31amBarry and Moochelle spend money like two crack whores who won the lottery.
Report Post »ProudTeaPartyMember
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:43amAnd I‘m sure they’re the only scammers. END ALL WELFARE IN AMERICA. You have kids and can’t feed them, jail.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:37amsorry, no jail. jail is becoming just another form of welfare. remove the kids until the parent has employment.
Report Post »Hiswill
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:42amThe government wants to tax us more so they can give more away in fraud. The more they get the more they spend. Learn how to protect our tax money and I’ll send you a little more.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 11:25amIf you are an american serviceman deployed in a conflict or war, welfare and medical should be available.
Report Post »Tmptd2twyt
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:28pmI think it would be great to end it all then re-instate it as
1. If Qualified You will be on Welfare with the child u have now and the fruition of current pregnancy
and only 2 offspring’s will be covered.
Obviously u need help in feeding said children and U need not have anymore. IF you have more children they will NOT be covered.Or better yet Voluntary Temporary Hysterectomy and Vasectomy. Til You can get on your feet again.
2. No One in the family tree will Qualify for said Person above in using Welfare to take on added
children after the effective date of Qualifying for Welfare. Can Qualify if Said Person dies in
Childbirth or Natural Causes, not from Gunshots, Murder or Drug Overdose or other acts of
a Crime.
Ends Eons of Family on Welfare due to Baby factory to Qualify for Welfare to Grandma and Grandpa and Cousins and Sisters and Brothers and Aunts and Uncles and 2nd cousins and so on.
3. Like Unemployment One must go to look for a job if Not a Senior Citizen or Disabled or Handicap
in any way that working is not feasible, It will be mandatory to look for work and have it signed
by Manager of said Working place you are applying for =Accountability.
4. After 4 years you Must Qualify again.And same rules apply.
There are other rules that can be added but these are the ones That Most DRAIN from the Limited Welfare pool.
Report Post »And if You can Come Up with a better Idea,Do So if not, Don’t Complain with what I wrote.
God B
objectivetruth
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:06pm@•Tmptd2twyt
Report Post »Both methods you indicate for birth control are permanent.No chance at reversal.Women aren’t given hysterectomys for birth control.They are given tubal ligations either through surgery or some of the newer methods[essure comes to mind]for birth control.A iud is used for long term birth control but is reverseable.Hysterectomy is used only for serious and potentially fatal health concerns.It involves the removal of the uterus fallopian tubes and ovaries[total].Any combination without all removed is known as a partial hysterectomy.
Vascectomy is the only permanent birth control I know of for a man.
One thing I’d change.No children are to be used when welfare is determined.Not one two absolutely none.
Netsurfer2
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:37amJust another scammer who wants to rip off the American public for what they can get! I just wonder of how much of that money did they send home to their native country??? Just think of how many others are here in America??? I‘m so sick of the welfare Lib’s throwing our hard earned tax paying money out the window!
I would lay a bet that they could recover trillions if they could investigate even more here in America! Who knows??? Maybe Hillary will be found out???
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:11amThis is why we need to find out exactly what Newt plans to do about this kind of stuff before he is considered for the canitate.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:36amMeanwhile, I have to take on 2 full time jobs just to make ends meet.
Report Post »Thanks Obama, you did more to me than any other President in modern history….Jerk.
JLGunner
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:27amRemember when Michelle uttered those haunting words “barack will never let you go back to the lives you knew”? That sent chills down my spine.
Report Post »Kisses6350
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:37amSeriously??????? Things that make you go, “HMMMMM”……
Report Post »Phreqguru
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 3:18pm@JLGUNNER…That was the warm tingly feeling running up your leg…the snake going for the jewels.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:34amSounds like a good reason to file seperately. I’m in college right now and make pretty much no income so maybe I can qualify to have the taxpayers pay for my food and mortgage. End sarcasm. This happens everyday and more often than you can believe. When you have federal and state aid programs run with taxpayer dollars and employees of the taxpayers overseeing its implementation you lose any meaningful oversight and you demoralize the charitable base in society. As long as the gov’t hands out “free” money there will ALWAYS be someone with their hand out who just wants something. That is why charity should be completely voluntary and come from the individual or organizations of individuals who are united by their own choice and free will.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:13amThey can;t audit. A computerized check by zip code would catch some scammers. Demographers can use the 9 digit zipcode & know with a reasonable amount of certainty much information ab out the resident s of said zipcode. It ain’t that hard to program.
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:36amThis is precisely how Republicans plan on paying for the payroll tax. But the MSM has ignored that fact, maybe now it will get some attention.
Report Post »RLNoland
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 2:52amYpur assuming of course the Gov cares………….
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 6:27amIt‘s not like the state collects info on everyone’s income annually or has a record of who owns what property. That they could collect rent subsidies for 8 years is unbelievable, until you realize the goal of the Gov’t is to hand out checks, not verify need…
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:17pmState governments have their computer software set up so they can store data on whether the interior walls of your house are wood paneling or dry wall & plaster. They do the same with plumbing fittings. Why should the state government care if you have 2 faucets (fittings) in your house or 3?
Does that makes sense?
- Meanwhile the elected set up friends & families on state commissions, where they draw 6 figure salaries to look into some sort of problem.
- But if they have to cut, they cut teachers & policeman 1st & commission never. Gov Christie cut commissions to help balance the budget.
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:05amOh, he ain’t play pimpin!
Report Post »db321
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:09amFalse claims totaling $135,000 – That nothing, Obama spends that amount on rent during his most recent vacations.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:21am@ DB321- So did Bush and all the modern day presidents before him.
Report Post »heartitorleaveit
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:34amThose darned American presidents anyway! This would never happen under sharia! No woman would ever be given ANY money. They are less than human after all! I cant believe these American Presidents letting there wives show there ankles and everything. Its more discusting than an image of muhammad! (but less disgusting than a picture of a dead Jew!)
wow you quit me sirhan… winners never quit, but you did.
Why do you really C.A.I.R surhan? Oh thats right you dont ansew questions, sorry.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 6:19amHey @SURHANSURHAN – Which Bush? The one that vacationed at Kennebunkport, ME or the one that went to Crawford, TX every chance he had?
The only other President in ‘modern times’ to go on so-called ‘Destination Vacations’ was Bill Clinton, and his excuse was he was homeless (his first home was a mansion in White Plains, NY).
Reagan went to his ranch in CA, Carter went to his peanut farm in GA, Nixon went to his house in San Clamente, CA, and I don’t think Ford was in office long enough to take any number of vacations.
JFK and LBJ went to family homes as I recall, but they were a bit before my time.
Eisenhower went to his farm in Gettysburg & Camp David (named after his grandson)…
That about covers the last 50 years – what is your definition of ‘modern times’?
Report Post »Mstr Smith
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 6:25amExactly,..they both are AFU!
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 6:37am@db321—not true,try again
Report Post »knighttemplar999
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:00amThere was an article a few weeks ago about illegal Mexicans collecting 4.2 BILLION in bogus tax refunds. They don’t have social security numbers but learn how to scam the goverment by getting employer tax IDs.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:31amYes, but the liberals will still tell you that illegals pay more in than they take out. They will get someone for a liberal think tank like the Center for America Progress (in part funded by Soros) to show that via some sort of analysis (sleight of hand accounting & statistics that would make Mark Twain gripe once more about damned liars). The best part will be where JeZuS (JZS) provides us a link & admonishes us that we should pay attention to said analysis.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 6:24am@walkabout – do illegals buy more tires, gasoline, airline tickets or other federally-taxed items (like visits to tanning salon, liquor, and cigarettes than tax payers?
The debate is INCOME TAXES not excise taxes, BTW.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:21pmbeekeeper
I believe the illegals do more harm than good. The liberals argue they pay SS but don’t draw. But a full accounting would loo at all social services they use. It can’t be argued that it is illegal for them to draw state services, because many government entities purposefully overlook that they are illegal & give them government money anyway.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:59amIts people like this that ruin it for those who need it the worse… and this is one reason we are in trouble economically. I know of several cases where people are scamming the Welfare and SSI.. and even called to report it. And the government did absolutely nothing!! I hope this couple serves some serious time behind bars…
Report Post »Fightforlife
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:34amTrust me when I say that it’s not people like this that ruin it for the rest. I am a landlord and the people that ruin it for others is what landlords call “Professional Tenants”. They are low life leeches that have the knowledge of a Tenant Landlord Attorney. They know all the ins and outs and if you try to evict them, they throw all the road blocks that they have learned from their parents. I’ve accidentaly rented to family members of people that have done this to me and they were exactly the same. I have since learned to steer clear of them through strick application processes.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 11:29am#fightforlife I own a property managment company that does both commercial and residential and I agree with you 100%! unfortunately the professional tenants I see these days have infiltrated some of my commercial properties and are frequent fliers of the business bankruptcy and reopening LLC’s in all sorts of names so it isnt identifiable. I am fed up with it!
Report Post »knighttemplar999
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:55amA Jewish chiropractor, ha, those guys aren’t even real doctors.
Report Post »rdub76
Posted on December 6, 2011 at 10:04amnope just real jews
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:53amOH come on these are not the only ones cheating the government.. there are THOUSANDS out there who should and could work collecting.. living as good as those that DO work.many times better….and the government wonders WHY the taxpayers are FED UP ..
Report Post »Fina Biscotti
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:47amRich people and the politically-elite know that if they get caught, they can just get a high-dollar attorney – offer to pay the money back = Free Pass.
Report Post »Fina Biscotti
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:42amI hope these screwballs in the McMansion – go to PRISON – as what would happen to middle-class people caught defauding the US Govt.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:49amI agree. What about the HOUSING project ALSO in WASHINGTON state mainly for ILLEGAL ASIANS who get TOWN HOUSE, (cost per $ 336,000) with maintenance provided by US GOV (US) and they are ILLEGAL??? WIth mostly brand new automobiles (with fancy wheels ) parked out front.
Report Post »I want a PRESIDENT who will ride ROUGH SHOD over these ridiculous welfare recipients. ALSO: IF people coming to the USA were made to take courses on how we became the USA and the sacrifices that have been made…and required to SPEAK ENGLISH instead of forming their little colonies…I doubt that they would be so eager to rip us off via WELFARE fraud. IT goes hand in hand.
Fina Biscotti
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:41amI came across another means in which people are defrauding the system – thanks to ILLEGAL ALIENS claiming to be offended to show ID =
the WIC Program.
It is absolutely disgusting.
Report Post »BloodSweatandTears
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:07amWhat? Please explain this.
Report Post »confederacyofdunces
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:17amIf you don’t learn how to cheat the system in Russia or the Ukraine you will die. My friend married a Ukrainian girl. She looked emaciated. Child support for her child in the Ukraine was @$8 a month. She told me all kinds of stories on how things are there.People to this day survive on potatoes. Its no small wonder that these girls want to marry American men.
Report Post »It doesn’t make up for this cheat. It makes the honestly disabled look bad and it gives some douche bag the chance to have hearings and cut funding from those who need it.
Like all things there are good and bad that come with it.
Californiasodbuster
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:16amI would like to know what the Blaze thinks about Bill s. 1867 ?
Report Post »ConservativeCharlie
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:26amNow that is a good question.. I would like to know too. But as far as this story goes., the welfare state has reached fever pitch. I recently learned of a man in Ohio that was collecting 4000 a month for multiple children he had fathered over the years by different weman, even though he was no where near any of the kids and not apart of any of their lives.. In some of these circles kids havce become a money racket. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqKoNHhbpfM
Report Post »vonMises
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:14amHuh! I wonder how many contributions they bundled for our Money-Launderer-In-Chief?
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:25amBoth are probably State Democrat Party Leadership for the DNC. They do fit the profile.
Report Post »NOTAMUSHROOM
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:04amA Russian, huh? Go figure. This is not news for the Pacific NW. The Russians learned a long time ago, back in the USSR, how to work the Socialist system of the government. They typically drive big, expensive cars and live in McMansions. Oops! Sorry to blow your cover, comrades!
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:19amГлупый Америке, ХА!
Report Post »TPartyXpress
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:31am@UlyssesP How true. Land of the welfare states.
Report Post »Sgt_Rock
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:45amI agree, the Russians have huge organizations doing exactly this kind of fraud, as well as credit card, debit card, vehicle theft, vehicle cloning (stolen cars using legit VIN from salvaged cars etc). This has been going on all over the U.S. but it is very big in the NW. In lib states, that love to give away money with little or no checks and balances, this is bound to occur. Recently it was reported that California and Washington (among others) had billions of food stamp money (EBT cards) being run thru atms in China, Mexico, you name it….imagine that. Washington‘s social service agency wouldn’t acknowledge there was a fraud problem until it was exposed by a local TV station. People would sell their EBT card, call social services and report it stolen and get a new one right away. Next month, repeat the process. This in a state that is $2 Billion plus in the whole…w/ a democrat governor and legislature for the at least the last 25 years. No fiscal checks and balances and one of the most liberal welfare systems in the country, so liberal in fact that folks come from other states when their benefits run out and apply for benefits here, and they are welcomed with opened arms. This hag of a governor and her demokratik sozialist legislature are a freakin’ disgrace. They make it easy for dirt bags to pull off scams like this.
Report Post »Steverino
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:02amЖивите хорошо от идиотов!!
Steve
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:55pmWhat a disgrace. I hope and pray that someone will start paying attention to this waste.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:34amDisgrace is right…can’t believe how many extended family members are on some kind of welfare/disability..and not a one of them truly disabled.
Report Post »Cosmos102
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:49pmWhy is the Govmint always so easy to loot?
Report Post »phillipwgirard
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:10amexcept when your honest they rip you to shreds
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:48pmWell, that is a used boat in front of their house, and they do cut coupons. And besides, its hard work filling out all those forms. They even cut back on the Grey Poupon.
Report Post »WAR PIGS CRAWLING
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:20amOh, the humanity…….please tell me they were not forced to drink their chablis from a box…..oh, the humanity
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:38amThey had to cut their Starbucks from Grande to Tall.
Even their Bagettes are day old, and their caviar is not imported.
Living in squalor, those poor souls.
Report Post »confederacyofdunces
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:40amThe forms ARE difficult. That’s why most people are denied benefits the first time and have to appeal, get a lawyer, resubmit.
She was probably committing fraud.
If she actually has a condition that makes her disabled then there is no law against living in a good home with a Doctor as your roommate (or whatever, shack up buddy). It looks bad, as if she is living high on the hog but the Dr is probably paying the lions share.
Again, she probably IS committing fraud but don’t assume all disabled are cheats.
I’m disabled, my wife works, we have a decent house, bills up the as5.
I have had 3 bypasses, heart stents, a partial amputation, copd, and now Cancer. I probably look OK to you and if you saw me get out at my handicapped spot you would thing I’m pulling a fast one. You CAN NOT judge a book by it’s cover. My father in law lived a hard 25 years with heart disease. People would stare or talk behind his back but his quality of live was terrible. He died alone, tired of all the medications he quit his meds, said goodbye and died.
I know there are cheats out there but there are a lot of people who worked and paid into the system and they should not be judged. Their problems are between themselves and their doctors.
It’s time to drag my catheter upstairs and try to sleep. If anyone wants to trade places I’m up for negotiations.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:45pm“I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.” – Relating to prices and the poor, 1766
- Ben Franklin
Maybe the founders were right?????
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:43amOf course the founders were right,they wouldn’t recognize the government we have now !
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