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Five Reasons Why the Obamacare Decision Might Not Be As Bad As You Think

Ever since the shocking ruling by the Supreme Court today that labeled Obamacare’s highly controversial individual mandate a “tax” was handed down, conservatives have been reacting with a mixture of depression and cold fury, especially toward the man who made it possible, Chief Justice John Roberts. Branded a “coward” in some corners, and a traitor by many, Roberts has been relentlessly criticized for a decision which many see as eroding the last obstacle to an overpowered government, and which certainly has the potential to do just that if the political philosophy that has so dominated the current administration continues unabated.

However, sympathetic though we are to these admittedly weighty fears of increased state power, we think one fact may have been a bit obscured by this response – this is still a decision by John Roberts. And John Roberts is still a Bush appointee, with a judicial philosophy that makes hardcore judicial liberals cringe, albeit a little less now. As such, since the decision was released, a steady drumbeat of commentary has gone up from everyone from Reason Magazine to Charles Krauthammer to Erick Erickson to George Will to even Ken Cuccinelli, one of the people who lost in the case, claiming the decision might be a sleeper victory. With a list of people like that believing they’ve secretly won, we figure we owe it to them to at least try to sum up the case for the Obamacare case being a success. Here are the top five reasons we can see why the Obamacare case might come back to haunt the Left and make the Right cheer:

#5. It made taxation the panacea for constitutional questions

No, really, hear us out. The fact that Obamacare‘s mandate has been arguably rewritten as a simple tax provision actually means something very positive at the political level for those who don’t want excessive government overreach to get carte blanche. Prior to this case, regulation of industries or people was always justified under the framework of interstate commerce (we’ll revisit this later). Now, however, taxation has been given a power that most liberals could not have imagined in their wildest dreams. On the surface, this looks like a bad thing. Actually, it could be quite the opposite.

Obamacare is probably the first case to ever involve what is arguably a sleeper tax – that is, a tax that isn’t called a tax in the law itself, but may behave like one. It will also probably be the last, because from now on, every single case that remotely involves IRS penalties as a means of enforcement will be instantly slammed as a sleeper mandate-style tax by its opponents and subjected to the same level of scrutiny as your average tax increase while in Congress. This mandate was able to get by on the fig leaf of being a penalty. Future adventures with the idea won’t have that luxury.

This means that Roberts has just sent every future mandate to clear the desk of anti-tax giants like Grover Norquist before it can get become law. All we can say is good luck with that.

#4. The liberal judges inadvertently brought Federalism back

Arguably ever since progressivism first became a potent political force, the fact that the Federal government is constrained in relation to the states has chafed endlessly at progressive policymakers. Perhaps for this reason, they have worked to make the very concept of states’ rights anathema, both legally and politically. Conservative jurists, meanwhile, have pushed back, citing the traditional separation of powers.

This case implicated that question strongly, as one of the less glamorous questions considered was whether a mandatory Medicaid expansion that was attached to Obamacare was constitutional in the first place. According to the Roberts Court, it was, but there was a serious catch, explained by Peter Suderman of Reason Magazine in this video:


Got that? States are allowed to opt out of the Medicaid expansion without any retaliation in terms of existing funding from the Federal Government. In effect, this meant that the expansion was completely toothless, and states would only undertake it if they thought that additional money offered by the Federal government was worth it. The idea that states can opt out of anything is a huge jump towards state sovereignty.

But, you might be thinking, so what? Roberts could have gotten all that and more if he’d signed on with the conservatives. This misses the fact that not only did Roberts resurrect states’ rights, but he did it with the blessing of several liberal justices on the court, since the ruling on the Medicaid expansion came down 7-2. This is the equivalent of getting Al Sharpton to vote against affirmative action, and it means that functionally, even the Court’s Left has declared the Constitution itself in favor of state sovereignty over and against Federal overreach. To quote Ken Cuccinelli:

“They preserved our first principles protections, our individual liberty protections. They advanced state sovereignty, strangely enough, while keeping the law. That was not one of the combinations that were even in our top five. That permutation was one that we didn’t spend a lot of time thinking was a likely outcome. But here we are. That’s the one we’ve got.”

#3. Roberts actually set up a limit on the Commerce Clause

This is similar to the situation above, except even bigger. One of the signature judicial “achievements” of the Left has been the erosion of individual liberty using Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce. This disturbing trend arguably reached its peak in Wickard v. Filburn, a case that said that Congress could regulate everything including how much wheat a farmer fed his hogs because that could have a plausible impact on interstate commerce. In the face of this, liberals rushed to pass every conceivable form of regulation, no matter how nitpicky or micromanaging it was, because if that was allowed, everything was. Successive courts nibbled around the edges in cases like United States vs. Morrison, but ultimately left this expansive reading untouched.

Until now. You see, there was one thing Wickard never did. It never said you could make a farmer buy wheat. Oh, you could regulate how he used it once he bought it, or how he produced it in order to sell it, but you couldn’t say he had to go buy it if he had no intention of doing so in the first place. And as it turns out, you can’t. The Court drew a line in the sand, saying the Federal government can’t create commerce in order to regulate it. This could easily have gone the other way if a liberal had written the opinion. As George Will pointed out:

If the mandate had been upheld under the Commerce Clause, the Supreme Court would have decisively construed this clause so permissively as to give Congress an essentially unlimited police power — the power to mandate, proscribe and regulate behavior for whatever Congress deems a public benefit. Instead, the court rejected the Obama administration’s Commerce Clause doctrine. The court remains clearly committed to this previous holding: “Under our written Constitution . . . the limitation of congressional authority is not solely a matter of legislative grace.”

Fortunately, that’s not what happened. Instead, with the support of his conservative colleagues, Roberts wrote this reading of the commerce clause into law:

“The power to regulate commerce presupposes the existence of commercial activity to be regulated. . . . The individual mandate, however, does not regulate existing commercial activity. It instead compels individuals to become active in commerce by purchasing a product, on the ground that their failure to do so affects interstate commerce. Construing the Commerce Clause to permit Congress to regulate individuals precisely because they are doing nothing would open a new and potentially vast domain to congressional authority. . . . Allowing Congress to justify federal regulation by pointing to the effect of inaction on commerce would bring countless decisions an individual couldpotentially make within the scope of federal regulation, and — under the government’s theory — empower Congress to make those decisions for him.”

This is the brightest line in the sand ever drawn on the question of where the interstate commerce power ends. The excuse of the taxing power is, as we’ve pointed out above, a trap for the Left. This standard, meanwhile is very likely to get more rigorous as time goes on. As Cuccinelli says:

“They’ve turned this whole thing into a spending and regulation question with this ruling. The individual liberty pieces were preserved and states got strengthened here in the constitutional structure under this ruling.”

In order to undo the evils of previous decisions like Wickard, the Court first had to take a stand and say, “This much and no further” when it came to interstate commerce. Thanks to Roberts, it has.

#2. This deflates Occupy Wall Street’s biggest cause

Look, we‘re not pretending this case isn’t a victory for the Obama administration. It is. However, it also gives conservatives an unexpected right hook to use against the Obama administration’s Democratic base. Remember how before this decision came out, every liberal within breathing distance was bemoaning the fact that the case Citizens United v. FEC, which they claimed was decided by a runaway “activist court,” had permanently ceded American government to those with money?

You should, because many left-wing protests, including Occupy Wall Street and the Wisconsin protesters, used Citizens United as a rallying cry. Like the Obamacare decision, Citizens United is a 5-4 decision, and had Obamacare come down differently, Occupy Wall Street and their brethren could have used that as yet more evidence that it’s time for a constitutional amendment to “save Democracy.”

Except Obamacare’s decision came down technically in their favor. And that means that all the liberals who were sharpening their knives to go after this “activist court” suddenly have to revise their low opinion and start treating the Court’s decisions as final. Now, of course, it could be said that the same applies to conservatives who like the Citizens United ruling, who now have to endorse the Obamacare ruling. However, there’s a big difference – the Obamacare ruling doesn‘t say it’s unconstitutional to repeal Obamacare. It just says Obamacare is constitutional. Citizens United, meanwhile, says you absolutely cannot enact certain kinds of campaign finance law, no matter how much the bedraggled masses at Zuccotti Park might want you to. In other words, one simply leaves decisions up to Americans. The other hardwires an obstacle to progressive attacks on speech into the Constitution. And thanks to John Roberts’ decision, Leftists now have to either argue against Obamacare or for Citizens United. Arguably the main talking point that motivates their base – too much evil Republican money in politics – has just been frozen out of relevance. Charles Krauthammer puts it best:

Whatever one thinks of the substance of Bush v. Gore, it did affect the reputation of the court. Roberts seems determined that there be no recurrence with Obamacare. Hence his straining in his Obamacare ruling to avoid a similar result — a 5 to 4 decision split along ideological lines that might be perceived as partisan and political.[...]

How to reconcile the two imperatives — one philosophical and the other institutional? Assign yourself the task of writing the majority opinion. Find the ultimate finesse that manages to uphold the law, but only on the most narrow of grounds — interpreting the individual mandate as merely a tax, something generally within the power of Congress.

Result? The law stands, thus obviating any charge that a partisan court overturned duly passed legislation. And yet at the same time the commerce clause is reined in. By denying that it could justify the imposition of an individual mandate, Roberts draws the line against the inexorable decades-old expansion of congressional power under the commerce clause fig leaf.

Law upheld, Supreme Court’s reputation for neutrality maintained. Commerce clause contained, constitutional principle of enumerated powers reaffirmed.

1.  Mitt Romney now will have a much easier time defeating Barack Obama

When it comes to this one, as President Obama might say, “this is not politics, this is math.” In the not-quite-24-hours since Obamacare was ruled constitutional, Mitt Romney has raised a breathtaking $3 million, according to Politico. Why? We’ll let Erick Erickson make the case for us:

Finally, while I am not down on John Roberts like many of you are today, i will be very down on Congressional Republicans if they do not now try to shut down the individual mandate. Force the Democrats on the record about the mandate. Defund Obamacare. This now, by necessity, is a political fight and the GOP sure as hell should fight.

60% of Americans agree with them on the issue. And guess what? The Democrats have been saying for a while that individual pieces of Obamacare are quite popular. With John Roberts’ opinion, the repeal fight takes place on GOP turf, not Democrat turf. The all or nothing repeal has always been better ground for the GOP and now John Roberts has forced everyone onto that ground. Oh, and as I mentioned earlier, because John Roberts concluded it was a tax, the Democrats cannot filibuster its repeal because of the same reconciliation procedure the Democrats used to pass it.

It seems very, very clear to me in reviewing John Roberts’ decision that he is playing a much longer game than us and can afford to with a life tenure. And he probably just handed Mitt Romney the White House.

How else to put it? Romney has been handed an issue where 60 percent of the voting public agree with him and told to run with it. The reaction of many people who previously were skeptical of Romney shows just how powerful this is – he has transformed from the problematic standard bearer of a party that might potentially have to face thorny questions on health care to the anti-Obamacare candidate: Anti-mandate, anti-massive tax on the middle class, and pro-liberty. Some have claimed his own law in Massachusetts will end up being used against him in this case. If that’s true, we’re at a loss for who could possibly use it. The Obama administration has to run on their record, and the fact of the matter is that running on a law that imposes a massive, unpopular tax on the whole country, is going to look a heck of a lot worse than running while disowning a previous experiment with the idea at the state level and promising to do away with the national version once elected. Romney’s moment of heresy was  years ago. Obama’s is right now.

Do these reasons presuppose a massive gamble on Roberts’ part? Absolutely. Could things go ruinously wrong if the makeup of the Court shifts to the Left after this decision? Yes. Could things go ruinously wrong if Mitt Romney doesn’t win in November? Obviously. But this decision could still turn out to be the nail in the coffin of the Obama Presidency. Or, perhaps more appropriately, this Court could be the death panel that decides it‘s time for Obama’s administration to end its life.

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  • eyestoseeearstohear
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:56am

    I couldn’t sleep for thinking about this mess.

    I kept hearing Obama say, “I didn’t do this because it was good politics-
    I did this because I BELIEVED it was good for the country & the American people.

    All I could think was….
    Just because YOU BELIEVE in something –
    IT MUST BE CONSTITUTIONAL, FIRST!

    But, ROBERTS MADE THAT HAPPEN FOR HIM.

    Right now – I don’t find Roberts decision a good one…
    I guess I’ve gotta give it more time.

    BUT – either Roberts did use a long range scope & plan on this OR
    HE WAS VISITED!!!!!

    This is the CRAZIEST DECISION I’ve EVER seen a SCOTUS make –
    especially when ALL THE HIGH CARDS WERE IN HIS HAND.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:06am

      Right now – I don’t find Roberts decision a good one…
      I guess I’ve gotta give it more time.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~..
      I think this is a wise way to go. Lets give it time, kick back and observe… Then will see

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    • milez5
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:49am

      I think there are many on the right who are trying to find a way to pretend that Roberts is on “their” side.
      He isn’t, that should be clear both from the Obamacare ruling and the SB.1017 ruling except by those who insist on seeing what they want to see and hearing what they want to hear.

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    • TNcraftsman
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:02am

      Soon, we will see the wisdom. Be thankful! Who shaped this decision? And, again, WHO (?), will be a footnote in history as being the one (or, many) responsible for pushing progressives into defending their ideology? My jaw dropped at the news! (Needless, to say) Then, after thinking about it, what had been done, the thought occurred to me.. Is it possible that many of us are myopic? (shortsighted?) What is the finish line???? Y’all will have to answer for yourselves. But,in the words of Chief Dan George “Endeavor to persevere!” (Outlaw Josie Wales)

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    • aChameleon
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:06am

      I think I‘ll just accept the fact that it’s ruled constitutional. If the bill works, well, fine. If it doesn’t work, we will all know who is at fault. The old saying “give ‘em enough rope, they’ll hang themselves” comes to mind. The liberals own this thing forever now.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:32am

      Chief Justice Roberts was the only “Conservative” who ruled correctly and honestly according to the law, as they swore to do. 

      1st-CJ Roberts clearly lays out Gov cannot force you to buy anything. That rules a Federal mandate unConstitutional, as it should be, and finally squash the attempt to expand upon the commerce clause in the future. 

      2nd-CJ Roberts properly defines the “penalty” for what it is, a tax. Each and every one of us have deducted our house, medical expense, a child birth, etc from our taxes. In doing so, we pay less in taxes than those who did NOT do whatever it was we deducted. That same principle applies here. If you choose NOT to buy healthcare, you pay a tax. If you buy healthcare you *deduct* that tax, paying less. 

      3rd-By properly ruling, he brought forth the reality to each and every one of us that Obamacare is a great big tax, that Congress can tax how they want according to 16th amendment and that it is our RESPONSIBILITY to elect Reps/Sen who will not tax us to death, if we do not want it. That both parties have been doing this same thing for YEARS. 

      I think ObamaCare stinks. It’s horrendous but CJ Roberts was appointed to rule according to law and that is what he did. Obama did not want to call it a TAX, why? Because we’d reject it even more. Judicial activism would be to declare it as something it isn’t, CJ Roberts did his job by calling it what it is, a TAX. Let’s do ours. 

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:55am

      If I might throw my two cents in? The more I hear of Roberts writings the more I see.
      Has anyone noted that Roberts was able to get the Liberal side to agree to put a line in the sand regarding the Commerce Clause. It seems to me their collective badmouthing the Commerce Clause made the limits of that ability… less but ….certainly not more.
      … if I could steal a line from one of my Fav. Movies .
      YOU SHALL NOT PASS

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:05am

      Now, since SCOTUS has declared ObamaCare properly as it is, a tax, Congress and it’s many lawyers should get their head out of their rears and file under Rule 44 for the case to be heard again before the court on the grounds the Tax law was passed unConstitutionally thru Congress as ObamaCare did not go to committee or follow the correct process for tax law to be passed. They have 25 days to do so. 

      All is required is for a majority of the justices to approve case to be heard. (4 dissenters + Roberts = 5) Those 5 will surely rule the process to pass this horrible bill as unConstitutional voiding every aspect of it. 

      In order to “repeal” as Romney lies and says he will do, we need 51 Senators and we have 47 currently. We will be leaving the repeal in the hands of the same idiots who allowed it to pass to begin with. 

      Lastly, ask yourself what this crap of “repeal and replace” is about… Replace? No, don’t replace with anything. 

      We must win the Senate and we need to double our efforts for safety and encourage a appeal as said above. We must do it for ‘Merica!!!

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    • lqtm
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:17am

      LMAO you couldn’t sleep.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:21am

      The people of Wisconsin got it.
      State run health care systems are like humongous public sector unions.
      They suck the wealth out of the private sector, and this non-stop infusion of taxpayer money is like an addictive drug. It breeds corruption on all sides, and low-quality services. (Believe me, in these systems, EVERYBODY buys supplemental insurance.)

      The “private” taxpayer works his behind off to be able to maintain his freedom while being forced to finance this expensive corruption.
      Just a thought, but perhaps we should look at decisions against union financing for ideas on how to fight Obamacare.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:22am

      the wisdom of his decision is we get to decide ..this is a wake up call for all Americans..we can no longer be careless with our votes or not bother to vote..our freedom depends on our ability to choose wisely…it is not the supreme courts job to protect us from our bad decisions…What Roberts is saying is, vote them out and repeal obamacare..he is correct…Make sure any politician you support is committed to repealing this legislation.and upholding our constitution.Roberts is reminding us ,we have a republic ,if we care enough about it to keep it.

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    • Living In NYC
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:39am

      As all the smoke and emotions clear, it sounds like Juctice Roberts did a “rope a dope” on the liberals. Funny when “intelectual elitist fools” are sooo smart they hang themselves with their own rope.

      We have to remember we have a pack of fools in this adminstration! Tthey think they are smarter than us all, but everything they try fails! Really they are just dumb and arrogant! These fools have no understanding of how the world really works! Barry and his pack have a prism that is totally warped!

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:45am

      What a crock! First, Obama the Marxist is always one step ahead of us. As soon as SCOTUS handed down the AZ ruling, Obama rescinded the 287(g) agreements and set up a Federal hotline akin to 911, where illegals can call for help if the villains in AZ as much as glance their way.

      Second, Obama decided to bypass Congress long ago. So who gives a **** about the powers of Congres being curtailed. Barack’s got his czars, executive orders, executive privileges and whatever other screw-congress tool he needs. He’s all set for November too.

      This story is a sleeping pill. Spit it out.

      What a crock! First, Obama the Marxist is always one step ahead of us. As soon as SCOTUS handed down the AZ ruling, Obama rescinded the 287(g) agreements and set up a Federal hotline akin to 911, where illegals can call for help if the villains in AZ as much as glance their way.

      Second, Obama started to bypass Congress as soon as he occupied the WH, so who gives a **** if SCOTUS reined in the power of Congress. They did Barack a favor. The dictator has his czars, executive orders, executive privileges and whatever other screw-congress tool he needs. He’s all set for November too.

      This story is a sleeping pill. Spit it out.

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    • 123456beatriz
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:08am

      still Hey! Roberts for me your a real @!!##***%%@@!…..TRAITOR!

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:19am

      This also means that all the mandate waivers given out to Obama‘s supporters are Unconstitutional as you can’t opt out of a tax.

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    • Liberty_Effect
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:34am

      I dont buy all this conservative spin. Obamacare should have been ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL, period, end of story. Now it persists and is constitutional. Does that make us more, or less free?

      Do you think the government will care in the future what the OPINION of the ruling was? Heck no, they will see that Obamacare is constitutional and will bust that door open with the next terrible, unjust law. Thats how it always happens – first they open a crack – then they bust through it.

      There is zero reason to celebrate this

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    • Liberty_Effect
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:48am

      This article is complete hogwash. This is the same line of thinking that gave us bailouts and TARP

      John Roberts: ‘I had to abandon the constitution in order to save it.

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    • johnpaulkuchtajr
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:07am

      I’m coming down on the side of Roberts being a pretty good poker player in addition to a wise jurist.

      Think of an energized, conservative base opening their checkbooks from now to November, aiding voter registration drives and engaging in the election process.

      Obama’s time for honoring himself is fast coming to an end, thanks to a man named John Roberts who will be membered as saving the nation from a mad man!

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    • Wilma
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:09am

      I agree with Eyestoseeearstihear, Roberts was visited!

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    • JoseMartinez
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:25am

      I slept quite well,this ruling was a slap a the Pres.The court said that the bill was “structured” as a penalty when in reality it is a tax.Roberts said that the courts duty is not to protect the masses from their “stupidity”( You idiots voted him in”),so in November you can vote him out.In effect the Pres. and congress lied.They also said that the govt.can not withdraw funding for existing agreements with the state as a means to force states to adopt fed. mandates.So if the states refuse to accept fed. money for these health exchanges then in effect the “law” can not be implemented.People do not understand that having “free” or “mandated health does not garentee access”

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:27am

      Our mantra should be 0BAMACARE TAX INCREASE. Say it loud and often.
      Like Judo, use opponents “strength” against him.

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:36am

      @EYESTOSEEEARSTOHEAR

      “I couldn’t sleep for thinking about this mess.”

      Too bad for you Eyes,but after hearing the scotus verdict I slept like a baby for the first time in years. A wonderful, deep, secure and invigorating sort of slumber.

      I’d lay off the blaze for a while if I were you and see how you will benefit from the ACA.

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    • kadster01
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:45am

      Yeah maybe… but my honest feeling is that no one in the government these days is that smart, and even if s/he is, none of the others are smart enough to catch on. Also, none of these points will make a bit of difference unless the balance of power is shifted. That is the next big obstacle to overcome. They’ll just keep on doing what they wanna do because no one is stopping them.

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:45am

      eyestoseeearstohear
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:56am

      I couldn’t sleep for thinking about this mess.
      ___

      I didn’t sleep either. I fear for my children’s future and the future of the republic. The USA is a shell and it was STARKLY proven by the courts and by Holder and by Obama’s actions from FF to ObamaCare.

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    • 000degrees
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:48am

      Julia Roberts is on the Supreme Court????

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    • theblazerunner
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:49am

      many did not get to sleep last nite…some americans actually care about this country.

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:54am

      @LIVING IN NYC

      “They think they are smarter than us all, but everything they try fails!”

      What?? The scotus ruling yesterday was a victory of EPIC, GINORMOUS proportions for Obama and his administration. How do you see that as a fail?

      My simple advice to you is: think before you comment.

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:58am

      Here’s the thing, he could have stricken the entire bill down AND written the majority opinion invalidating future use of the ICC. Sorry, this dog don’t hunt. He’s either 1)Weak 2)Traitor 3) All of the above.

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    • sy212
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:58am

      I agree with paper, walk softly and carry a large stick

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    • ambrosia
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:09am

      @JOSEMARTINEZ
      Re: your statement
      “Roberts said that the courts duty is not to protect the masses from their “stupidity”( You idiots voted him in”),so in November you can vote him out.In effect the Pres. and congress lied.They also said that the govt.can not withdraw funding for existing ”

      Most of the fools, wealthy commies & clueless earthworms are GOING to vote
      for this creep, NO matter what.
      The wealthy elite refuse to admit they made a huge mistake
      and the clueless earthworms’ “gimmee more, Obama” attitude is ear bleeding & never ending.

      Everyone else MUST vote & throw King George Obama OUT of office.
      Just think what he will do in another term.
      He has much more to “redistribute”, he has only just begun.
      Simmering on the back burner is his VAT tax & a thousand other taxes to
      pull revenue in to fund HIS social welfare programs & all his failing green & solar businesses.
      He will be taxing & spending our money like Speedy Gonzales.

      Get busy everyone, stay on target, stay on the politicians to answer to us
      or be forewarned that they will ALL be OUT of office.

      Thekey words are “Tax & Spend Liberals”-
      shout it, repeat it, never mention them without the tag, “TAX & SPEND” !
      Call them what they are, hold them accountable & vote ALL of them,
      including wimpy Rhinos OUT !

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    • TheCoffinMaker
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:14am

      Romney is a greasy phony.

      Obama will have another term.

      Personal firearms will be banned.

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:30am

      I slept like a baby…I know the process and the implications. :)

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:36am

      Delusion: Mark Levin
      http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/06/mark-levin-on-obamacare-ruling/

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    • eyestoseeearstohear
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:36am

      Morning Blazers!

      Rough day yesterday, huh?

      OK…let’s get up from being knocked to our knees and GET ON OUR KNEES & PRAY…
      Thanking the Lord for widening our eyes and showing us what & who we’re up against-
      and giving us the good sense to know THERE IS A WAY TO OVERCOME, with
      His Guidance.

      The Bibile tells us – and my Pastor preaches – ” The Lord won’t put more on you
      than you can bear – AND HE WILL ALWAYS SHOW US A WAY OUT!

      SO – let’s get on this – FULL FORCE & FORGE HEAD ON INTO THE STORM.
      THERE IS A WAY OUT – “ IF” WE ARE READY & WILLING TO SEE IT THROUGH.

      In addition to thanking God, I want to thank Glenn Beck –
      FOR KEEPING ME SANE, YESTERDAY. And, I thank a lot of you for your
      written words that made me realize, I WASN’T COMPLETELY NUTS!

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    • lawrench
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:37am

      I was surprised when Justice Roberts sided with upholding the Mandate. I think what he did and how the ruling came down was probably the best that we could hope to happen. While many of you will think that I am a liberal plant. I do not want ObamaCare any more than any of you. What I think is so good about this decision is that it does limit the Commerce Clause of the Constitution so much that it halts Progressives in their tracks. No longer can they claim the Commerce Clause gives them carte blanche to regulate individuals down to where they shop or the food they buy. It also brings to light that the Democrat Progressives are Lying, Taxing, over-regulating progressives. People will remember that the “penalties” were for those that did not have Health Insurance, not for everyone. With this decision, it shows that the Progressives knew it was a Tax and did not want people to know until after it was passed. Hence, why SOH Nancy Pelosi said that they would have to pass it to find out what was in it. If they told you it was full of Trillions in new taxes, would the average democrat on the street want their taxes increased by that much? More than likely not! But this pulls the cover off of the democratic party, now they are naked for all to see. And as the old saying goes, The Emporer has no clothes.

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    • Thomas
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:42am

      I feel much better now after reading this. Excellent at making their point. I can’t wait til November. ;-)

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    • Longinthetooth
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:57am

      Just a few thoughts here;
      As a TAX, O’care is the LARGEST IN WORLD HISTORY. (500 BILLION dollars)
      Add that to the LOSS OF DOLLAR VALUE (and purchasing power) as the FED/Government/ECB/Government(s) continues to “devalue” our/their monetary base in order to “save” their corrupt, disintigrating monetary system frauds, here and in Europe.
      Mix in a little MORE tax exemption EXPIRATION of the Bush tax cuts (Taxageddon), sprinkled with another healthy dose of EXPANSION OF THE DEBT LIMIT.
      Now, bake into the cake double the amount of home forclosures seen in 201-2011 (from the banking “shadow inventory”) along with increased job loss and tax revenue loss (resulting from and adding to all of the above).
      And finally; Frost with a topping of IRS “enforcement” and shove down the throat of EVERY (R’s & D’s) “middle class” Americans throat,
      And, after getting a little taste, I believe that you have a mix that NO ONE will be willing to swallow!

      Psalm 77
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      Man is only governed by his own consent
      Either by virtue
      Or by Lies, deceit and deceptions…whether his own or by others

      All things serve the Will of God

      Daniel: 7: 26
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      Cut the Head from the Snake and the Body will die.

      End the Fed

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    • Couyon64
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:07am

      Romney just secured most of the swing voters out there. Obamaski will have his behind handed to him in November. Remain optimistic and vigilant.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:24am

      In the richest nation, a State, Alabama, need to ask for military assistance, to help provide free medical services to the poor.
      “The Delta Regional Authority (DRA) and The United States Air Force National Guard and Reserve Commands will host Operation Black Belt 2012, a military community assistance mission May 1 through May 10 in Demopolis, Selma and Hayneville. The program will provide treatment for medical, dental, or vision care for citizens of the Black Belt region of Alabama.” http://www.demopolistimes.com/2012/04/13/uwa-partners-with-operation-black-belt/

      Yet, the good Christian Conservatives rather the poor and unisecured go bankrupt and die , sick in the street.

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    • mac410
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:26am

      What I find interesting in the finding is the part that says that the Government cannot withhold established funding to a state in order to force the state to act.

      Remember when Carter told the states they had to drop the speed limit on the Interstates to 55 mph to save on gas? The threat was that he would withhold DOT Highway Funds from the states that didn’t comply.

      Remember when some president decided the drinking age was 21 and was going to withhold highway money if a state didn’t comply?

      All that kind of manipulation has been tossed in the trash heap by this ruling. Don’t think any of the talking heads have figured that out yet.

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    • Clive
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:28am

      “Mitt Romney now will have a much easier time defeating Barack Obama”… not sure if you’ve looked at the electoral votes, or swing state votes, but obama is clearly going to crush mitt, in an embarrassing fashion. quit getting everyone’s hopes up and be real, if anyone liked mitt, he’d stand a chance. but they don’t. he’s a john kerry lookalike and no one will get behind him.

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    • Clive
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:30am

      also, its like they think conservatives forgot, that romneycare, is obamacare, as in, romney basically invented this whole thing. they also know that romney was pro gay, and pro choice, up until a few years ago. don’t think conservatives are so stupid, that they will fall for this RINO’s BS.

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    • MBA
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:47am

      The best plan is to elect mitt and work for repeal. That is the only option we have right now. Let’s make the Constitution work for us now! Unbelieavable that none of these people (and I say that with undue respect) have no respect for the US Constitution. Why are these people on the Supreme Court? And, a better question is, how can they call themselves Americans? Disgraceful.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:02am

      That’s right MAJASDAD..you go to sleep and sleep very soundly- because you’ve been asleep throughout all of this just like Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

      Did Obama, Pelosi and Reid really believe they were smarter than John Roberts? Clearly you’re not smarter than Roberts MAJASDAD, because if I were an Obama supporter right now, I’d be shaking in my boots after this decision.

      Ignoring the fact that Romney has now raised $4 million since the SCOTUS decision and the Tea Parties are dusting off the powdered wigs and the Gadsen Flags (a scenario Obama didn’t want after the shaming he took in 2010)- Romney now has three big arguments handed to him by Roberts:

      1. Obama imposed a gigantic new tax on working people.

      2. Obama deceived the American people by saying the individual mandate was not a tax, when it was indeed a tax.

      3. Obamacare made it look like money would go to insurance companies – in the form of new premiums – this was supposedly to keep premiums low as the companies were required to take on people with pre-existing conditions, but now that money is really going to go to the federal government. So get ready for your premiums to skyrocket up and/or for insurance companies to be strained to the limit. Both -or even just one- of those scenarios are bad for the American consumer.

      That’s right MAJASDAD..stay asleep and sleep soundly..that’s exactly where we want you right now.

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    • anomnomnommm
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:09am

      When American goes down, there is a place you may feel more comfortable: https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720×720/309926_10151065856435586_803289410_n.jpg

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    • muffythetuffy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:23am

      Roberts’ Court Will Not Allow Any Repeal Of Obamacare. NONE!

      Any and every law passed by Congress to repeal Obamacare will be declared un-constitutional. The Liberal Supreme Court has crossed over to the Dark Side and there is no turning back. By the end of this year all of Obama care will be in place. Its going to be a rush job to complete.

      Obamacare and the EPA will together revoke and invalidate the US Constitution. Everything and anything will now be a tax created by any of the departments of the government. Guns will be outlawed via a special yearly tax on them. Pay the tax, turn the guns in, or go to prison.

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    • NJAZ
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:29am

      GOD BLESS JOHN ROBERTS. Check Sarah Palin’s fb post today to understand that!!!
      I tried to repost her rant, but fb opens the whole thing, thus hiding the “share” button.

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    • NJAZ
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:33am

      GOD BLESS JOHN ROBERTS. Check Sarah Palin’s fb post today (6/29/12) to understand that!!!
      I tried to repost her rant, but fb opens the whole thing, thus hiding the “share” button. hmmmmm

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    • egon16
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:34am

      Some have said that they need time to think about and soak in this whole thing and that perhaps after they do, it won’t be so bad. The court has just upheld Obamacare, a law that we have found out whats in it after 2 years of scrutiny. I don’t need any time to think about the decision, it’s terrible because the law it affirms is bad. Perhaps the courts decision will impact future legislation in positive way, but for now it bad, real bad.

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:35am

      @Encinom: Once again you make a blanket statement about Christians with no facts. We’re use to this from the left, just like all conservatives are evil or ignorant; we’re use to the stereo types placed on us by the left.

      But once again you’re wrong. It seems to me that he Air Force getting involved is a perfect example of my taxes being used to provide care on a humanitarian basis. The difference is I‘m not being told by the government that I’m required to buy health care or face jail time. That’s just a communist approach to government.

      It would also seem to me that if those communities are in such bad shape then where are Rev. AL and Jessie beating the drum for help. As far as I see anytime people in this country is asked for donation to help a community the nation answers with overwhelming support and donations. Of course those donations are all by choice and not mandated by government and that choice you seem so eager to give away.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:39am

      John Roberts has handed the election to Romney and single-handedly stopped the abuse of the commerce clause by the left. Did Roberts take a gamble playing his long-game rather than the short game? Absolutely, but as his brief alluded to, it’s up to us to fix bad laws by voting the bad law makers out of office. It’s not the job of the SCOTUS to do this.

      Roberts essentially voted with the four conservative judges not the four liberal ones. He prevented the partisanship criticisms towards the Supreme Court. He gave the left‘s mouthpieces some candy so they’d shut up (see MAJASDAD’s posts for example). He‘s given power back to the states on the Medicaid expansion which can also be argued in the future that the Federal Government cannot withhold or take away funding from states that don’t comply with it’s edicts. This is a huge victory for conservatives.

      Most importantly, he made Obamacare’s mandate a tax. The democrats cannot use the filibuster to stop votes on a repeal now…it’s now down to a majority vote.

      Every Democrat running in November will be forced to defend what amounts to the biggest tax increase in American history, a tax mostly levied against the young and the middle class who don’t normally carry health insurance..and Romney can bludgeon Obama with this for the next five months using Obama‘s own words that he wouldn’t put any taxes on the middle class..“not one dime”.

      John Roberts has outsmarted Obama, Pelosi, Reid and

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    • ISRAELISOURFRIEND
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:45am

      CONSERVATIVES MUST LET THIS PLAY OUT. WE’RE GONNA SEE THAT ROBERTS WAS GENIUS IN THIS!

      HE PLAYED THE LIBERALS RIGHT INTO HIS HANDS, THEY ATE IT UP LIKE KOOLAIDE.

      THIS WILL GO DOWN AS ONE OF THE BEST FOURTH QUARTER COMEBACKS FOR THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT!

      ROBERTS IS A GENIUS!

      Thank you sir!

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    • 50211bs
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:56am

      The 2nd craziest is what they did to AZ.

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    • Busybea007
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:07pm

      Well – it looks to me like they gave Obama a Healthcare Bill – and allowed the States to “opt out” -
      and Roberts “re-wrote“ the bill to make it constitutional and changed it to a ”TAXED“ instead of a ”fine”.
      Libturds and Obama spent almost a year telling us it was “NOT A TAX”(no big deal – they always lie).
      After the “Opt out’s” that Obama gave the Unions and all his friends – looks like the “middle-class” will
      end up “paying for it”! (if there are any jobs left for them to earn the money to pay for it ) Small business will be “wiped out”. AND IT STILL WON’T “PAY” FOR THIS “TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS”
      COST – AND WE WILL BE BANKRUPT . Luckily, we have an election soon where we can “kill many birds with one stone” (Vote). REMOVING THESE COMMUNISTS AND RINO’S IS THE ONLY
      WAY TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY!

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    • Plan B
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:09pm

      All the talking heads are saying Mitt will win. Of course. Do you really think O wants to be in office when this house of cards comes down??

      Republicans will blamed for decades for the colapse of the country. They have just been set up for a huge fall.

      I would not want to be in Mitts shoes next year.

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    • Rogue
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:18pm

      Seems that many here are breathing a sigh of relief in anticipation of successful GOP victories in November. This will be the most important election in modern history, for both sides. If you think this will be anything resembling a fair election, you are sorely mistaken.

      “Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:19pm

      A Pandora’s Box was opened yesterday and there is no going back. The Coward Roberts betrayed us all and our Constitution. No only for Obama care but now the government can mandate anything they want and force you to do it under the guise of a tax! Sure all the gutless republican politicians are saying they are going to repeal obamacare but are they really? And more importantly why are the Republicans vowing a law to limit the use of the commerce clause to mandate other things on the American people? It‘s all a fraud and I’m afraid the Republicans are as involved as the Commiecrats. Our Constitution was stolen yesterday! Why aren’t people in the streets protesting? Because America has become a nation of lawless wimps, yes, the American people are Cowards!

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    • KevinVA
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:43pm

      The Bill was completely unconstitutional and the method in which this was passed, via re-writing the mandate as a “tax” instead of a fine, was also unconstitutional. Roberts re-wrote the bill in front of our face and ruled its’ legality. How you can see anything GOOD about this, is beyond me… You’ve been slapped in the face by judicial activism. Even KENNEDY, a wishy-washy liberal, saw the fallacy of this bill.

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    • I.Heart.America
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:43pm

      Conservative Senate….We NEED Them To Repeal ObamaRobertsTaxCare

      https://www.conservativesenate.com/step0?c=RP4FB32B5695CFC

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:48pm

      Referring to a Little Limp Long-haired foreign parasite, we do not need lectures from, or advice from some muckraking troll FauxMericans posing as citizens.

      Besides;
      It‘s Friday and soon access to your boss lady’s computer will end!

      Off you waltz, now; Matilda! – It’s time for Skippy to be on the Hop!

      Okey Dokey, Ta Ta.

      Do as l command you and disappear. At least we true patriots do not worship Queenie Lezzi-beth round here. We like hetro leadership, “matey.”

      Way to Go. Crumpet-stiltsken!

      Oh, My. TEA time.

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    • GilbertAcct
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:55pm

      Republicans are absolute hypocrites when it comes to health care.

      Consider this article:

      http://www.campaignforliberty.org/node/11641

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:02pm

      THis Healthcare was passed thru Congress as a fraud………a lie to the American people ….with Senators being paid off to vote for it……..and now has been upheld by the Supreme Court as a fraud….a lie to the American people………ARE YOU NOT SICK OF IT YET?

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    • moderateliberal
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:11pm

      not sleeping has a detrimental effect on powers of rational thinking… this explains why you don’t understand ACA. Get some rest on Sunday and you may be thinking so clearly, you’ll wake up a liberal. that goes for all of you.

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    • DisgruntledInClinton
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:38pm

      Except everyone is forgetting the massive voter fraud, including allowing illegals and dead people to vote, that will take place.

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    • k2weaver
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:43pm

      this is the only game, during which, you can sleep. simply ask everyone you meet, “How will you be paying for your healthcare?” if they work, at all, it is either them or their boss. if they don‘t then their life doesn’t change. either way every american will pay more for products (cost is always passed on) or vote better.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:48pm

      You don’t play games with commies. Of all of the incredibly dumb rationalizations making Roberts a hero, saying that it now only takes 51 votes to repeal O’CARE takes the prize. If the whole thing had been cut off like a cancerous tumor, repealing it would not be necessary.

      Roberts gave a dictator the power to tax. His arm was twisted, and that is what Barack and every other commie in history know how to do well. Remember all the lawyers his machine sent out to find dirt on Palin? However, Roberts was not the only Justice who was targeted. The commies started by saying Thomas had to recuse himself because of his wife. That didn’t work. Roberts had an Achilles heel of some kind, or he was seriously threatened. In one week, the VERY SAME JUSTICE sided with liberals on two major issues DIRECTLY AFFECTING BARACK’S POWER TO CONTROL US (hint: that’s not a coincidence). Barack voted against the Roberts nomination because Roberts had always been a trustworthy conservative. No, Roberts didn’t give the commies candy. He handed over the country. GOD and only GOD may, MAY turn to good what the devil meant for evil, but don’t give Roberts the credit. It’s insane.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:01pm

      What Roberts has done here is thrown down the gauntlet. He’s saying…”if you don’t like bad laws, vote and get them off the books…don’t expect the SCOTUS to do it for you, that‘s not it’s job”.

      He‘s told the Obama adminstration that they can’t abuse the commerce clause, that if this walks and talks like a tax IT’S A TAX. This is how Obama’s counsel argued it before SCOTUS and Roberts has called that bluff. It’s a brilliant move by John Roberts. He’s innoculated the SCOTUS from the “partisanship” criticisms. He‘s given the infantile liberals some candy to shut them up and he’s given Romney and the GOP weapons with which to bludgeon Obama and the Democrats.
      Obama and the democrats have to now explain the biggest tax hike in US history that will affect young people and the middle class. The rich are fine, they can either pay for medical care out of pocket or buy insurance as they see fit. But young people and the middle class who don’t always choose to buy insurance now have to pay a tax for their decision to opt out, or buy insurance that puts another financial burden on them.
      This is excaserbated by the fact that before Roberts’ decision, the money from the mandate would have gone to the insurance companies to pay for the new feature of coverage for existing conditions. Now it goes directly to the federal government. Watch the middle class’ premiums go up and insurance companies strain to cover the added costs. A lose-lose for the A

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    • JL320
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:07pm

      Well I was going to vote 3rd party. Romney is nothing but a progressive RINO, and I really don’t want to vote for either of them. I would rather cast a 3rd party vote for someone who I believe in. But my new goal is to just get Obama the hell out of power. Romney better have the balls to arrest this p.o.s. after hes out of office!

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:11pm

      KRYPTONITE…I don’t care what motivates you or what makes you angry about the decision…just use that anger to get to the voting booths in November. Obama has to go or this country is in for a lot of pain.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:44pm

      @AVENGERK
      Besides angry, right now people like you are driving me up the wall. For example, you say, “Obama and the democrats have to now explain the biggest tax hike in US history that will affect young people and the middle class.” REALLY??? Commies never explain anything or take responsibility for the wrong they do. They SPIN & LIE. Why is it too hard for you to admit that Roberts’ decision was a killing blow, and that it reeks of arm-twisting? Of all the commenters on this blog, I would have expected you to have your feet planted firmly on the ground, not to dream up airy-fairy rationalizations.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:58pm

      @AVENGERK

      Good posts.

      Notice that JZS has not been around trumpeting the great victory?

      Even he knows what really took place with that ruling.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:01pm

      KRYPTONITE..let me elaborate on “the democrats will have to explain”. I‘m with you on that point that the democrats have no intention of explaining why a fine is now a tax on the middle class and young people after Obama said he wouldn’t impose “one dime” on them.
      They won’t step forward with an explanation but now they have to squirm and doubltalk having to avoid using the “T” word but they can’t avoid it because if Obamatax is not a tax, then it’s unconstituonal. Of course the enemedia won’t press them on it, but it’s going to seep out anyway. They’re holding a steaming pile of sh#t thanks to Roberts.

      They’re stuck with a pile of sh#t they’re trying to deodorize during an election year. Remember..it’s not just Obama seeking re-election, many democrats are too.

      It’s up to Romney to press the point. It’s up to the RNC to press the point. It’s up to the superpacs to press the point. People will begin asking “what‘s this tax I’m paying now?”. “Why is the IRS getting money the insurance companies should be getting?”. I fully agree with you, the liberals will lie and doubletalk. Just this mornning Charlie Rangel did exactly that..he said “whatever you want to call it”. No Charlie..it’s a tax, anything else is unconstitutional..IT’S A TAX!. This is going to pile on so the duplicitious democrats won’t be able to avoid addressing it. It‘s then up to the voter to determine if they’re being lied to and cheated.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:19pm

      KRYPTONITE..I also agree with you that this sets a dangerous precedent on the taxing powers of congress. It’s a gamble that Roberts took. But as Roberts intimated…if you dont’ like a law, vote those lawmakers out. This is a long game we have to play, not a short one. Step one is removing Obama and people like Cass Sunstein out of the white house. Four more years of an Obama unaccountable to the voter is something we cannot as a nation endure. He will govern by executive fiat and mangle the constitution beyond recognition. He will pick and choose which laws he defends and which he ignores.
      More urgently, Europe will tank it’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. America can weather this much better wtih more people working and in turn, more taxpayers paying into the system. Right now, we have a reduced workforce under Obama with no sign of improvement on the horizon. We are very vulnerable to a Euro meltdown. Added to this, Obama has proven to be an incompetent with foreign policy, Syria is the game changer in the region against Iran..Obama once again wrings his hands and “leads from behind” on that score.
      He has to go…PERIOD! We will be in an weakened state with Barack Obama at the helm, the man is an incompetent, narcissistic ideologue he’s utterly useless to the American people.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:22pm

      RIGHTSOFBILLY…I beg to differ..I think you give JZS far too much credit. I believe JZS is awaiting instructions from Media Matters on how to spin..”oh yeah..we forgot to mention it’s a tax on everyone” to the American people.
      A beer says I’m right?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:41pm

      Hey Billy,

      I noticed that also; his last post was the 27th at 10am.

      Got a question for you….

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:32pm

      @ AVENGERK
      No need to preach to the choir. :) I know all the stages of communism. It irks me that smart conservatives call this a hidden victory, that’s all.

      One of the first two sectors of society commies infiltrate is the media (academia being the second). Your argument that libs will squirm when confronted with TaxedCare would work IF the media were objective. Sadly, they are all state-controlled now, except for FNC and conservative blogs, which moderate Dims and many independents never watch or read. So don’t expect a plentiful harvest there. When TaxedCare kicks in in 2014, it’ll be too late for the useful idiots to change course.

      Now to your interpretation of Roberts’ ruling: “If you don’t like bad laws, vote and get them off the books…don’t expect the SCOTUS to do it for you, that‘s not it’s job”. Well, he did indeed tell us to go F*** ourselves, but to me it sounds more like an aggressive retort from someone whose conscience is nagging him so bad, he has to project his guilt on others to try and make it go away. Roberts knows he did wrong. No one was asking him to REPEAL Obamacare. What’s more, NO ONE — except for the commie apparat — expected him to morph it into TaxedCare. All he had to do was declare the law AS IS unconstitutional. Four judges did their job. He did not. I feel sorry for the guy. He’ll have to live with the fact that he caved in for the rest of his life.

      Later

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:10pm

      KRYPTONITE..we‘re on the same side no matter our interpretation of Roberts’ actions.
      I hear you loud and clear, the left has had decades of unchecked infiltration and manipulation of the media and schools it’s going to take time to change and we have work to do.
      Cheers.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:24pm

      Ha. I find it funny that “Millions of Americans who do not currently have health insurance will have it for the first time” was not one of the “good things” that came out of the Supreme Court’s ruling. I guess ideology trumps actual Americans, eh?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:33pm

      PENCILNECK…Healthcare “should not be purchased by more taxes on the middle class”- Barack Obama.
      For Obamatax to be constitutional it must remain a tax…the biggest single tax hike on the middle class in US history.
      Keep trying champ.

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    • J_R_H
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:33pm

      Don’t forger, it‘s Bush’s fault.

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    • VoteBushIn12
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:07pm

      @EYESTOSEEEARSTOHEAR

      Funny how you’re lecturing President Obama about constitutional legality in a case that the SUPREME COURT has already ruled in his favor for.

      Forgive me, but I am going to trust the SUPREME COURT over you when it comes to anything even remotely constitutional.

      News Flash Blaze readers, the Constitution is bigger than just the 2nd Amendment ok? So stop sticking your nose in everyone’s face about what a constitutional scholar you are. This clearly shows you AREN’T one… like not at all.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:28pm

      VOTEBUSHIE…so let’s indeed stick to what the SCOTUS believes is constitutional…what do you think of the biggest single tax hike to the middle class in US history?
      And that money that Obamatax said was going to pay for the premiums for that “pre-existing” condition mandate…it’s now going to the IRS champ. Oh the humanity….

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:44pm

      @Publius

      In the off chance that it does not get repealed, and our health care system degrades to the point that we all have Canadian quality care?………….get back to me then and tell me how much of a great idea it was.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:46pm

      @AVENGERK

      Yeah, you are most likely right. I was trying to flush him out of the tall grass to see what his thoughts were.

      He didn’t bite, at least not yet.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:48pm

      Hi Monk,

      Maybe he’s visiting the clan.

      You say you have a questions?

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    • sandrunner
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:55pm

      Wisdom is lacking in Roberts behavior. There is no common sense in excepting this ruling binding. Just because it took one persons opinion does not make it a real judgement. All he has to say if it is constitutional or not. He has no authority to write in the law into the bill, where there were no word or other wise saying it is a TAX!!!!!!!!

      This is taxation without representation. that is a fact ! ! ! ! ! !

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:15pm

      Hey Billy,

      Yep, one question. Are you interested in hearing my theory?

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    • eyestoseeearstohear
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:50pm

      @ VOTEBUSHIN12

      I’m not “lecturing” OBAMA on ANYTHING! I’m expression MY opinion.
      Neither am I asking YOU or anyone else to accept my opinion over the Supreme Court.

      YOU can trust whomever you so choose, as it is obvious your trust lies in
      untrustworthy, usurpers of the Constitution – but again, that’s YOUR CHOICE.

      But, before YOU “lecture” who is or who is not a constitutional scholar, I suggest
      you read Admendment I, of the Constitution before taking to your SoapBox.

      Oh, wait – that’s right – YOU don’t uphold anything remotely Constitutionial UNLESS
      it’s suitable for you, do you? Oh, I forgot – I’m sorry – forgive ME!

      Well, don’t get any on YOUR NOSE – while visiting the Blaze, OK?

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    • mike1127
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:26pm

      If things work out in the ways the article states, this ruling could be a very good thing indeed. If States can simply opt out of Obamacare, then Obama’s use of all of his political pull in making this bill pass was wasted, and Obamacare will probably not be used by many States.

      My favorite part of this ruling was it being passed as a tax, which Obama swore would never happen with Obamacare. Once again, Obama has lied to America. I do believe this will make it easier for Mittens to win but, more importantly, this should give us the means to get another Republican-controlled House and Senate.

      With a Republican-controlled Congress, the office of the President can be forced to take its rightful place at the bottom of the power tripod in D.C. For decades, the office of the Presidency has gathered more and more power unto itself, to the detriment of all Americans, and millions of others around the world. It would be nice to have Congress declaring wars (if necessary) and not the President doing so illegally. Congress needs to step up and do their jobs, including reining in an arrogant President with delusions of grandeur. Congress needs to slap the next President that tries to illegally introduce legislation, and slap him hard.

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    • go2gym
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:36pm

      You don’t have to “give it more time.” Do some analysis against it. Read the Court’s opinion in full. Yes, it’s 193 pages, but the first 20 spell out what Roberts did. It’s incoherent and it conflicts with itself. Truly, it does conflict. That’s not an exaggeration. Read 20 pages and you’ll discover something that will strike you as incredibly odd from a SCOTUS Justice.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:41pm

      Hi Monk,

      Sure

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:41pm

      OKIEFROM:
      If you don’t mind my asking, EXACTLY what type of tax is this new penalty?…excise, income etc? And please answer why it is classified as such…

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    • sinsay7
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:43pm

      “most Americans don’t realize how many times the phrase “the secretary shall determine” appears in the health care law. Or they don’t care. Or they think the administration would never do any intentional harm. This is scary.”

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:09pm

      @Encinom: you missed this that this is also a training exercise for the AL National Guard & Reserves: “Authority co-chairman Chris Masingill said the purpose is to provide quality training for soldiers and medical care to poor communities.” (http://blog.al.com/wire/2012/04/black_belt_alabama.html)

      you also missed why the Governor is happy to help train the AL National Guard (which is part of his job as commander-in-chief of the AL National Guard): “The region has too few doctors and too many unplanned babies born to teenagers. The health of its people suffers because of poverty and poor transportation, a lack of routine checkups, risky personal behaviors and poor dental care. Funding of programs that do seem to help is often short-lived or inadequate.“ ”…In all of the 12 counties of the Black Belt, there are 348 licensed doctors, or 15.7 doctors for every 10,000 residents, according to data from the Center for Business and Economic Research at the University of Alabama.” (http://www.al.com/specialreport/birminghamnews/index.ssf?blackbelt/blackbelt19.html)

      when you limit your research you learn very little & you add nothing of value to the conversation.

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    • ItsTupacImBack
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:14pm

      It goes back to the same people that passed it?

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:12am

      This article is complete GARBAGE.

      This ruling has completely opened the door for universal health care. All they have to do is attach it to some sort of tax…

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    • Cosmos102
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:27am

      THink about it… Obama had the protests planned as an October surprise, and it all hinged on the outcome of the Obamacare ruling. Roberts has effectively shut these destructive protests down. Why would Obama and his puppet masters risk having the OWS protests now? The Oblamer admin. got what they wanted but still need to sell it to the people. Knowing that Obamacare had the majority against it, I think Roberts has gambled that the people would come out in droves to vote for Romney and against Obamacare.

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    • jzs
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 3:08am

      What’s been interesting to me about the argument against the Affordable Care Act is the evolution of the right wing arguments against it. The “death panel” argument was big for awhile. As is stood your insurance companies decided what was and was not not covered, what lifetime amounts they’d pay before they cut you off (for cancer treatments for example), when they‘d cover your new child or your other children and when they wouldn’t (if your newborn had problems, sorry they’d say, preexisting condition, he wasn’t covered before he was born, and he already had the condition then), when they’d raise your premiums (which they did when you got seriously sick) and when they’d drop your coverage, even if you’d paid them half your life before developing a serious condition like cancer. The insurance companies were the death panels if there are any. And anyone who’s battled with an insurance company knows that.

      But the ACA, by preventing companies from doing screwing you for profit, that, according to Palin was a death panel.

      Anyway, the next argument was that you were being deprived of your freedom. That‘s so stupid it didn’t stick even with TP members. Now it’s taxes.

      The US is at the very bottom of health care provided to the average citizen among industrialized countries. The Republicans won’t be happy until we have the worst health care the world but most Americans believe in exceptionalism for everybody, not just the the rich like those

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 4:11am

      @AVENGERK

      Boy, you right-wingers sure are bitter. You’re all freaking out over some vague idea that your freedom is being violently yanked away. Some, like Beck have chosen to put the blame on Roberts calling him a traitor, coward etc. Others, like you have decided his ruling is part of an intricate, subtle, masterfully crafted, multifaceted scheme to plant the seed of failure that will bloom further down the road ensuring the inevitable demise of the ACA. Sounds like a cool prologue to a John le Carré novel, but I think your wrong there though. You’re taking for granted that all conservatives are partisan, egocentric, ruthless and bitter, with the humiliating defeat of Obama at the top of their agenda.

      Perhaps Roberts was simply trying to make an apolitical decision based an objective interpretation of the law? Too far-fetched Avengerk?

      I just read a good article by Paul Krugman. Here are his concluding comments, eloquently put as usual.

      ” The point is that this isn’t over — not on health care, not on the broader shape of American society. The cruelty and ruthlessness that made this court decision such a nail-biter aren’t going away.
      But, for now, let’s celebrate. This was a big day, a victory for due process, decency and the American people.”

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 5:11am

      “The US is at the very bottom of health care provided to the average citizen among industrialized countries. The Republicans won’t be happy until we have the worst health care the world….” — JZS

      The slick propagandist at work–
      The US government does not provide health care to the average citizen– so OF COURSE they are at the bottom of this statistically. This statistic has nothing to do with the quality of health care.

      But hey, whatever. I’m just hoping that if JZS has a serious health condition, JZS will seek care in one of those countries at the very top of the list for providing free health care to their citizens. And no private clinics for you JZS, the quality is in that free public health care….

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    • WEBWITHDEB
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 1:17pm

      BFD?

      No . . . BF TAX!

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 2:53pm

      Wow, JZS and MAJASDAD were up late last night.

      Media matters paying overtime now?, or have they gone to double shifts leading up to the election?

      JZS, please, call it what it is from now on OK?………It’s called “OBAMACARE”, and he will wear it as a badge of shame throughout history.

      And, the first time you posted this propaganda piece of yours, you put it on page 14………and SPECKCHASER left you a reply there, in case you didn’t see it.

      Have a happy 4th of JULY……….if you celebrate the 4th, that is.

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    • Ragnars Repos
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 3:30pm

      Polishing a turd.

      BTW…The fact that Roberts was granted his power by the Progressive Bush regime is no comfort at all.

      Conservatives are piss-poor ‘defenders of the constitution’. It’s disgusting to watch them complain-and-wait, complain-and-wait, complain-and-wait, and on, and on; scared to death to be ridiculed by the left, scared to death to open their too, too pure mouths and unleash some spirited, and righteous resistance on their would-be, no, soon-to-be masters.

      Not sure what they’re waiting on. It surely isn’t Romney, is it? Do conservatives actually believe this Progressive Republican (watered-down-socialist) will save individual freedom and what‘s left of the ’American way of life’?

      Fat chance, ‘patriots’.

      Get on your knees, like Beck says. It‘s all you’re good at. Pray to your ghosts in the sky and hope that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE does the work of saving your sorry *sses from impending tyranny.

      You’re already mostly slaves to banks and pols (redundant, I know), so what’s a few more inches to full-blown tyranny, right, conservatives?

      So, you will be permitted to wave your pretty flag, for now. That should make you feel better. But, be sure sit still for your masters so that they might have an easier time of fitting you and your families with tax-payer-funded shackles. OK, proud Americans?

      That’s it. Goooood little serfs.

      SOMEONE will most certainly be along shortly to ‘take care of you’, babies. Just wait patiently

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 7:25am

      “Chief Justice Roberts was the only “Conservative” who ruled correctly and honestly according to the law, as they swore to do.

      1st-CJ Roberts clearly lays out Gov cannot force you to buy anything. That rules a Federal mandate unConstitutional, as it should be, and finally squash the attempt to expand upon the commerce clause in the future….”

      This is a bunch of wishful thinking gone wild. A strict constitutionalist would have voted to reject Obamacare due to its unconstitutionality. John Roberts was coerced by Obama to rewrite it any way necessary so Roberts could sign it. Roberts, when faced with a little pressure from Obama and the Dems, folded like a Chinese cookie. Roberts is a soft headed weakling.

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    • coachpan
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 8:31am

      Exactly! The SCOTUS did the American people an injustice. They are totally political. The Un-affortable Care Act is unconstitutional. But, then again, don‘t stand in Barry’s way of “fundamentally changing” our country.

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    • VoteBushIn12
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 7:47pm

      @EYESTOSEEEARSTOHEAR

      Don’t be an imbecile. You can choose to “believe” whoever you want, but that doesn’t mean the person you are believing is telling the truth. And if you knowingly reject the truth in favor for a more convenient response then that only servers to further highlight how weak, sheepish, gullible, stupid, and deceitful you are as a human being.

      You are claiming Obama (who taught constitutional law at U of C and Loyola) is undermining the constitution with his Health Care reform. Yet the Supreme Court (you know, the currently conservatively oriented, judicial committee charged with determining constitutional legality) has ruled he is not.

      Please tell me again how you know more about the constitution than them. I find your insights soooooo enlightening.

      This may come as a surprise, but what you “think” is correct is not always in line with objective truth. If you want to claim your OPINIONS – that’s fine, but realize you sound like a complete IDIOT. It’s literally akin to arguing with a Math Professor that you “believe” 2+2 = 6… In the same vain, you can call it an opinion, but that doesn’t make it right. It only makes you stupid.

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    • NationalElec
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 12:04am

      Did Supreme Court Judge John Roberts have more insight into what is happening in America than most people?

      John Roberts is a very intelligent person and didn’t get to become a Supreme Court Justice by chance. He is well educated and very knowledgeable in events that are going on within America today. I believe that the decision that Justice Roberts made regarding the Obamacare mandate was a well thought-out decision based on information that Justice Roberts had first hand knowledge of.

      Everyone is questioning why a conservative Supreme Judge would make a decision that would allow a healthcare bill such as Obamacare to be upheld, causing republicans and democrats alike to be astounded by the Supreme Courts final decision. People even have been thinking that Justice Roberts may have been threatened or bribed by certain people within the Obama administration to make such an unexpected decision, which up-held the Obama Healthcare Bill mandate. Some people even have a silly notion that Justice Roberts is part of a conspiracy group trying to get a New World Order takeover within America. Others even have a silly notion that he did it in order to write a best seller.

      Going back through Justice Roberts’s life and knowing he has a fine wife and two wonderful children, and all of his many great accomplishments, I personally do not feel that this man would ever do anything to harm our country, even though today it may very well seem that he has. It will be just a few

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  • Roberbris
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:54am

    http://www.bestofmandel.com Closer today to “bank holidays” than yesterday. Closer today to a “depression” than yesterday. Closer today to “civil unrest” than yesterday. Closer today to “taxation without representation” than yesterday. Closer today to “total economic collapse” than yesterday. Closer today to “Socialism and Communism” than yesterday. Closer today to “Trillon Dollars of New Debt” than yesterday. Everything appears to be “far worse today” than yesterday, yet, somehow it can be spun to be “better than we thought”. God, I love this country. Prepare yourselves for the inevitable, complete collapse of the economic system within America. Buy the movie, Red Dawn, and tv series Jericho, for starters and prepare.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:40am

      read the article again and think about it….the supreme court has given us many tools to fight back with…as well as a reminder ,Its our Republic ,if we care enough to keep it…its now our responsibility to repeal this legislation..and rid our government of evil self serving politicians..

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:13am

      @rober
      I completely agree. Just because John Roberts is tinkering around the edges – does not mean it is a victory…We are still left with a MASSIVE mandate, the tax, and all the provisions that are contained in it. 10 years from now, nobody on the court will remember the opinion on the verdict – only that the government is allowed to force people to buy a product.

      We dont have time to tinker around the edges – this needed to be struck down NOW

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    • Liberty_Effect
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:35am

      Great – so now we have to rely on Boehner and McConnell to do the right thing……

      Oh crap

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    • highcarry
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:42am

      simply a bunch of feel good pap.

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    • VinnieSquawker
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:01am

      McDave – spot on. And that is what the justices said – ,It is not our job to second guess policies enacted by politicians who were elected by the American people. Exactly right. So all the morons who voted for this marxist kid are to blame, not the misguided kid himself, nor the judges. Actions bear consequences and we are bearing them now. Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.

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    • zorro
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:07am

      The spin on this decision is making me sick. It sucked. Roberts blew it, period. For all of this magical things to happen, Obama has to lose. That’s not and never will be a sure thing. You know what would have been a sure thing? Overturning Obamacare. Enough conservatives. We lost. Let’s take the loss and betrayal with dignity instead of sounding like a bunch of damn liberals spinning this to make it look like we won. No one is buying it…

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 7:06am

      @ZORRO
      Well as I live and breathe, a smart, reasonable conservative. So I guess Roberts isn’t the only one.
      Anyway, well said Zorro.

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  • lylee
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:40am

    So, now all we need to do now is repeal obamacare. 60 senators, no RINOS, keep the house, and a president with balls of steel all in place at the same time! Right…..

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:04am

      It only takes 51 to repeal, 60 to overrule a fillabuster.

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    • DADA
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:31am

      By the same rules that were used to pass it, it can be repealed. I want to see Boehner carrying that huge gavel when the votes are cast. When the voting is done he needs to smash Pelosi’s skull with it while wearing a Jason mask.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:17am

      @Dada
      Republicans have the house. Why doesnt Boehner craft a bill to DEFUND OR REPEAL OBAMACARE NOW?

      Answer: he aint gonna

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    • Ramv36
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:27pm

      @soybomb315

      From what I heard yesterday, a repeal vote is ALREADY scheduled in the House NEXT WEEK. Of course it will die in the Senate like the last 28 job creation bills passed in the house and sent to the Senate since 2010, but at least the symbolism will be in place in time for the Senate elections.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:59pm

      Then defund it. The house has control over that

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:13pm

      Pretty unlikely scenario, isn’t it?

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  • mharry860
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:32am

    It looks like some SCJ’s need to be replaced under the new Romney Administration. I’ll leave it up to to others to make sure there are several of them, starting with Roberts.

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    • MRMANN
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:43am

      Would that we could replace them!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:23am

      Only one problem – they will be nominated by Romney. Romney is a moderate progressive and has nominated liberal judges in the past. You think Romney will go all ‘strict constitutionalist’ on us?

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    • Ampleforth
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 8:59am

      The best Mitt Romney can do is to appoint John Roberts clones. That’s the best.

      Liberty is lost. Yesterday’s ruling is the U.S.’s Arab Spring.

      It’s time to fertilize the tree, folks.

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    • mercenary4freedom
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:08pm

      In the end, I have to agree with AVENGERK, this will come back to bite obama in the ass as its the biggest tax ever imposed on the american people.

      obama will get whats coming to him this November, a bigg boot up his ass out the door then on to arrest and life in prison or execution by hanging. He is an infiltrator and ineligible to be president of the US. This attempt to implode america from within isn’t being attempted all by himself & they will be hunted down and dealt with accordingly as well. Its nearing time to take matters in our own hands as the politicians continue to thumb their noses at us.

      Looks like ENCINOM is straying away from his usual NAMBLA website again. You & your fugging commie gay buddies will also be dealt with.

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  • lapitup
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:28am

    Out of all that Roberts could have still gone with the right and have just declared it unconstitutional. All those mentioned above are long shots and if some of them are true we will not see it for decades. Everything mentioned above is nothing but a political pundit spilling gobeldy ****. Bush and Roberts are Traitors in their own right. It sounds like the guy who wrote that just used long words as if trying to give his words more value and more meaning (I had to look up a few words, and slow down in spots). Most mentioned above are so far reaching its like they are trying to find “something” good out of it. This is a win for Obama and everyone on the left no if, ands, or butts about it. As mentioned above.

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    • Liberty_Effect
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:38am

      amen brother

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:44am

      “Out of all that Roberts could have still gone with the right and have just declared it unconstitutional. ”

      Precisely. This article is trying to make lemonade out of dog urine. It doesn’t fly. Roberts is a traitor to the Republic and a cowardly little worm.

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    • RetiredAmericanNavyTaxpayer
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:20am

      @LAPITUP

      Ok, here’s the shortened version in plainer language.

      The SCOTUS declared it to be a tax. By Constitutional law the US Senate is the ONLY group that can authorize Federal taxes.

      IF, I repeat IF, We the People can get a veto-proof super-majority of genuine American patriots elected to both the US Senate and the House of Representatives then the Health Care Act tax can be repealed by the Senate and new intelligent and effective non-socialist health care reforms, including medical tort (lawsuit) reforms introduced and enacted by the House and Senate.

      If R’s (but not RINOs) control both the House and Senate then even if MR. Obama somehow manages to cheat, steal, lie or buy his way to re-election he will find himself blocked by a Congress that works under Constitutional law acting as public servants, not elite rulers.

      “You may think that I’m a dreamer,
      But I’m not the only one….” (John Lennon)

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  • Stew57
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:20am

    This is like looking for the silver lining. The clouds are still there. The federal has been further empowered. Individual rights are gone. (3)One can be mandated to do anything now. Farmer doesn’t want to buy wheat he can be mandated to buy it or be fined I mean taxed. Now that he has bought it he can be forced to use it as the government see fit under the commerce clause. (2) Do you really expect the mindless masses that get to vote understand you argument? When have they said anything that made sense? (5) With fewer and fewer paying taxes how long will it be that those that try and hold the line on taxation will still be electable? (4) will not last long as the federal government can punish states without calling it a punishment. (1) Who wants Romney? He maybe better than what we have now by the smallest of margins but that is debatable.
    Our freedoms have been eroding for a long time but this makes it official. We are no longer a free people. America; land of the once free.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:37am

      The Law was to be our “king”… to Protect us from any King… but those involved in Law (making, interpretation, and enforcement) failed us… for they became Loyalists!

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:37am

      Here’s my question: if any fine can be labeled as a tax, what happens to the clause regarding “unreasonable fines” in the 8th Amendment?

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  • Max jones
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:09am

    encinonom will have to pay, first time no doubt…..

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:17am

      Not if he is under 26 our is wealthy. He can choose to pay the penalty or his parents will cover him.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:13pm

      MAX…it depends which ENCIDIOT personality you’re talking about. If it‘s just ENCINOM you’re right, he’ll just have to pay for the first time. But his “MONICNE” personality is supposedly a well to do woman who at 60 years old runs marathons so “she’s already “hooked up”. Then there’s his “SLEAZY HIPPO” personality which is a corpulent male youth who indeed will either beg his mother to stay on her insurance (because daddy’s nowhere to be found) until he’s 26 or will have to pay.

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  • LB
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:06am

    I was thinking along these lines all day today. Hoping there had to be a good reason. The more I read and understand what Roberts did the more I think he did it for the good of our future. Still hard to swallow. We have to win in Nov. my guts can’t take the icky feeling I had today. Felt like Nov. 2008.
    Romney 200%

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    • eyestoseeearstohear
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:43am

      @ LB

      Me too!
      I’ve been churning this over & over all day, trying to find answers, reasons and hope.
      Felt like I did in 2008, as well – SICK TO MY STOMACH & SCREAMING AT THE TV.

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    • Liberty_Effect
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:36am

      @LB

      Just like Bush, Roberts had to ABANDON THE CONSTITUTION IN ORDER TO SAVE IT?????

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    • GIVE.ME.LIBERTY.OR.I.WILL.GIVE.YOU.DEATH
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:46pm

      Only a REVOLUTION can change this RULING…I was hoping for restoration but…
      This RULING by The US Supreme Court that makes Obamacare just the tip of the iceberg of things to come…its not just Obamacare, it is this OPINION of the US Supreme Court that will accept new unchallenged laws that could go into effect while usurping The People…dictating…even if Congress is able to rid ObamaCare, the RULING of the court still STANDS…that is the big problem on top of other big problems

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  • lukerw
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:04am

    COLD FURY, here: With both Political Parties promoting Liberals, leading to All Branches of Government in Liberal hands… where they are willing to Take from Everyone to support Social Justice, regardless of the consequences of Destruction of the Economy and any sense of Freedom…. where the Receivers vote for the Payola Action… and where they embrace Enemies & reject Old Allies… there Is No Protection to Protect us from ourselves, stupid choices, nor Lies and Evil Ideology. Honesty has fled this Nation… and the Media & Education have become Saboteurs!

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  • Truth Wins Every Time
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:51am

    I said in other post that people were wrong about Roberts. This proves me right. All that needed done was to read what he said and how he said it. Roberts has stomped on Obama in way that no one else has. Roberts did darn good.

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:58am

      I agree, he said the people are responsible for electing those in Congress that have the right to tax the American people. We voted them in if we don’t want socialism we need to vote them out.

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    • booger71
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:05am

      Scotus and Congress still does not understand the commerce clause. It was meant so States could not get an upper hand on other States by placing excise taxes or penalties on goods and services going across state lines. It was not meant for the Federal government to actually say what can be sold between individuals or from state to state. They only have the power to regulate foreign trade.

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    • LB
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:07am

      Agree!!

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    • KStret
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:33am

      The ruling still ostensibly gives the government the power to tax behavior. Couldn‘t the government now mandate that everyone go to the gym at least three times a week and if you don’t, you have to pay? Couldn‘t the government mandate that you eat only vegetables and if you don’t you have to pay a “tax”? Couldn’t the government mandate that you drive an eco-powered clown car instead of a truck by imposing a penalty on driving a truck?

      As long as they call it a tax instead of extortion this ruling deems it constitutional. The government could even impose a tax of one million dollars on all top 5 lists…..The supreme court has affirmed that the progressive method of implementing their agenda by taxing behavior to get the desired result is constitutional.

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  • DemonaLyn
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:49am

    Both Interesting –
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyLU9-VqVxY&feature=youtu.be

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/665/502/Hidden_Obamacare_Secret:_RFID_Chip_Implants_Mandatory_for_All_by_March_23,_2013.html

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  • catwilli
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:46am

    The reason republicans filibust is because dems won’t listen to their ideas

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:46am

    I watched GBTV tonight and his show made me feel so much better.. so just maybe Roberts isn’t a traitor after all, so please forgive me for saying so.. God has a plan.. and believe it or not I think he has things under control, but we’re going to have to watch Washingtom like a hawk! God help us!

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    • pwatkins
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:10am

      Well said Abbygirl.
      God has a plan indeed…we can never stop praying and waiting for answers bc God always provides. It is very important to keep an eye on DC and choose our leaders wisely and always do our best to choose the path God put before us.

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    • KStret
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:52am

      The key part of the reason TV segment that really stuck out was when he said republicans are going to have a hard time going for a total repeal because some Republicans like portions of this bill.

      In other words, conservatives are going to fight the progressive republicans and democrats to get this bill repealed. Is Romney a conservative or a progressive republican?

      There has to be a unprecedented tea party sweep of the republican party in November.

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    • moderateliberal
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:16pm

      if god has a plan, let’s hope it involves exterminating people who watch GBTV… freaks.

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  • Simple-James
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:45am

    The problem with key points 2 & 3 is that they are based off the opinion statement that “technically” doesn’t hold anyone to any standard because it was a statement of explanation for this particular constitutional review. It can, however, be used as a point of reference in future SCOTUS reviews, but not in the forming of or voting for any new act. I think. Please correct me if I’m wrong. (I hope I am)

    Other than those points, I’m trying to see the positive in the others…. trying.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:44am

    As I said. Justice Roberts is a genius.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:42am

    So this sums it all up:

    Obama won the victory for this round, and has in turn set up the means for the leftists destruction in the larger strategy being carried forth by the conservatives. This assumes Romney and the Right will actually pick up the ball and run full force with it, the people will back them, and no one messes it up just as the goal is to be reached in ending the madness of Obamacare…

    And the wild card is Obama himself who probably is already preparing multi regulation and executive fiat decrees to unleash on the nation and make his coming dictatorship all too real.

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:41am

    I don’t know? I have a question but i don’t know if there is an Answer yet.
    The Chief Justice claimed that the Commerce Clause is not Germane, making the case in essence a tax issue and Congress has the power to tax and spend. That Part is clear.
    Question ?
    Many Governments have the legal ability to tax from States to Counties cities even special tax districts. Once this authority to Tax people in this way becomes common law,does this authority somehow stay is the Federal Domain or it free to filter downward to that special tax district?

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:10am

      Elected representatives have the right to tax the hell out of us, we have the responsib ility to stop them by voting those representatives out of office. This is how it works.

      The problem that has come about is the public sector and the entitlement sector have become a huge benefactor to those tax increases. None of those people generate their own revenue so they really don‘t bear the burden of increased taxes most of the time it will result in raises for those in government jobs and more entitlements for those who don’t work and are illegals.

      When more are benefitting from the taxes than those who are paying the bill you have wealth redistribution which is what the socialists have been working on for 60 plus years.

      They wealthy won’t pay for healthcare few do know, they will pay the penalty and get off cheap. The shrinking middle class will be the ones footing the bill which is exactly what the socialist want for their utopia. The superwealthy and government and the serfs left at the bottom.

      It’s the same old song, different first. You will not become wealthy on your own work ethic and brilliance the socialist and wealthy will see to it. More regulations and taxes will keep people from working their way to becoming millionaires.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:54am

      Ummm Patriot is that a Yes or No?

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  • miamisammy
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:38am

    “The individual liberty pieces were preserved ”
    I fail to see how individual liberty is preserved when the power to tax is now MASSIVELY expanded beyond its constitutional limits (the Fed income tax required a constitutional amendment). It is NO consolation to be given some academic explanation that the freedom we’ve all just lost could have been lost under some other clause of the constitution.

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:16am

      Congress has the authority to tax the American people. That is why we should be electing fiscally sound minded people or we will be taxed into poverty.

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  • psadie
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:38am

    I agree. I think Chief Justice Roberts thought this out well. I don’t think he wants his country to sink. He has to live here too. I believe that the Justices keep their eyes on the pulse of the nation.

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  • Beltfeed
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:33am

    We will win this war against these progressive commie bastards. Drive the liberals nut with the link below.

    http://www.cafepress.com/politicallyinjected

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:43am

      We have the advantage now in the larger context; one thing I missed completely was the tactical battle over Obamacare and lost sight of the long range plans and goals. My goof indeed. Now as long as the time and place we have is not yielded or wasted, then we will win.

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  • Watermain
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:33am

    In spite of all that optimism, I still think anything with Obama in its name is basically evil and should be ended, no matter what the cost.

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:23am

      It can and will be done if he is voted out of office by the 60% who think Obamacare is wrong.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:51am

      As one of commenters wrote earlier today we should quit calling it obamacare but Obamatax thus in the future let us all call it like it is. Obamatax. May someone “out there” print a t shirt Obamatax. I’ll buy one. And wear it. To justify Roberts at this moment in time is lost —–we have young people who throw self on bombs to save their friends yet this man doesn’t want to look political and screws all of us? Give me a break. Glenn is right. Coward. I will apologize anytime I am wrong if time proves otherwise.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:30am

      What a day! Can’t decide whether to laugh or cry. Don‘t know if I’m more angry at that *** O, or if I’m sick and tired of that evil woman, Pelosi. She tells lies, stories and plays make believe. She acts like she‘s talking to first graders when she’s telling us how the cow ate the cabbage.
      We’ve been watching the pea under the glass with her double talk, used to confuse and deceive us. She may be a lousy liberal hag, who acts like a dumbbell to make us think she’s sincere, but I’ve seen through her.. She is evil to the core. As long as she gets all HER perks, to hell with the Nation and it’s hard working, honest people who want freedom to make our own decisions, worship God, try to stop the abortion abomination & Obamacare.

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  • trolltrainer
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:29am

    Not to mention what this is going to do to the economy, the stock market, employment…

    Liberals always accuse Republicans of wishing the recovery fails for political reasons. Ironic that they are the ones that keep driving the nails into their coffin…

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  • mikellyusabr
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:26am

    I appreciate the effort, but I can’t shake the feeling of singing in the rain while eating sour grapes…

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:26am

      Wanted Stawberry covered CheeseCake with Graham ******* Crust… Got yogurt in a government approved container!

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:37pm

      LOL LUKE You can now not say GRAMCRACKER

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:21am

    Great.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:26am

      Affordable healthcare isn’t great its a BFD!!

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:30am

      encinom, dont you understand that now your mommy has no choice but to pay for health insurance or be fined by the IRS?

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:32am

      LOL, who is it affordable too?

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:55am

      Your right affordable healtcare is, this is nothing more than a tax on the middle class. The rich will opt out and pay the penalty it’s cheaper. So once again the middle class will be left making p the difference. For their efforts they will get the same healthcare as the prostitute and pimp that works the corner who doesn’t pay taxes and lives off the middle class who will give them insurance.

      What is certain is there will be no more millionaires created through the middle class. You won’t be able to start a business and become wealthy in America. Too many taxes and too many regulations will keep Americans from reaching the American dream.

      But those criminals will have healthcare and not pay taxes, those illegals all 12,000,000 of them will get health care thanks to the hard working middle class that will foot the bill.

      We will be better off just to start working in the black market or drug trade like the rest of the criminals and illegals in this country, because our efforts will not get us ahead.

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:13am

      @ENDGAMER ..

      Now if we can just find someone to do this .. challenge it on the facts stated … ie deemed.

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    • Tractorboy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:39am

      Encinom and the likes love the so called free stuff from the toils of others because they are what we used to call Peter Pan men, they never grow up, and take responsibilty for them selves, we have way to many of them in this country, that’s why we are being told how much soda we can drink and such. We vote like children, we get treated like children.

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    • ezekiel22
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:11pm

      enicom how would you know? You just a loud mouthed little pecker-troll filled with inanity.

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  • CatB
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:13am

    I heard someone say that now that it is a “tax” (always was) anyway .. since it IS a TAX we now only need 51 votes in the Senate to repeal not 60 … does anyone know if this is true?

    OMG 2012 … LIBERTY!

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:25am

      The only reason the Dems needed 60 votes is because of the GOP philabust every plan.

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    • uptickusa
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:30am

      Yes it’s true

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    • Expatjames
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:34am

      Only need 51

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    • Watermain
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:34am

      Oh no, she’s back….

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    • endgamer
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:46am

      Here ya go! Judge Roberts may have done us a huge favor.. The individual mandate was DEEMED passed by the senate because it WASN’T a TAX!!! They didn’t want to risk their version going back to the house.. Now that its a TAX the affordable care at may be invalid!! watch! http://www.fox19.com/story/18910419/reality-check-if-affordable-care-act-is-a-tax-is-law-invalid

      I sent this to Glenn, of course he ignored it!

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:56am

      @ encinom

      “Is because of the GOP philabust every plan”.
      Just what do you think the Honorable Opposition does? Your use of “Every” as in every plan…. is an Exaggeration

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:08am

      @enci .. like Reid … you mean won’t even let it be brought to the floor .. or voted on … like that?

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    • Buchanan16
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:25am

      @End Gamer

      You do realize Glenn is sent hundreds of emails a day? And he has a radio show, a TV show, a network, and multiple businesses to run? Restoring Love to plan? Oh and I forgot one more: A FAMILY!
      And I‘m pretty sure he himself doesn’t read ALL of his emails. There’s probably a job for that.

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    • Simple-James
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:31am

      @ENDGAMER

      I hope that report holds water. If it does, do you think the Der Fuhrer will care?

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    • EM2T93
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:57am

      Encinom…put the beer down. It’s late. Enough is enough already…

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:35am

      @ encinom

      Dood you are upside down…the adm branch is held by el presidente and the senate is overrun with uber liberal democrat Senators…so clearly the DIMS own the system.

      But that will end soon as you folks have shot your wad…it’s over with in 2012…that is if the bloody SHEEP you folks indoctrinate every day WAKE THE “F” UP!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Ramv36
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:31pm

      Whatever the House passes, the Democrat controlled do-nothing Senate will kill it without ever reaching the floor, in the same way they’ve prevented votes on all TWENTY EIGHT job creation bills passed in the house and sent to them since 2010.
      With the killing of these jobs bills in mind, I thought it was hysterical that Reid gets up yesterday and says it’s time to focus on jobs. Really, Harry? NOW is the time to focus on jobs, after you’ve willfully refused to do just that for over a year!?!

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    • RamonPreston
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:25pm

      51 votes? I see…one from each state. Now I understand Obama math.

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