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FL Cops Say Woman Tried to Sell Baby Grandson for $30k

FL Cops Say Woman Tried to Sell Baby Grandson for $30kDAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) — A Florida woman and her boyfriend have been charged with trying to sell her infant grandson for $30,000.

Florida Department of Law Enforcement agents arrested 45-year-old Patty Bigbee and 42-year-old Lawrence Works on Friday in Daytona Beach after they met with an agent posing as a buyer. Both were charged with illegal sale or surrender of a child, and Bigbee was also charged with communication fraud.

FDLE agent Wayne Ivey said an investigation began last month after an informant told authorities the woman was trying to sell the baby. Authorities say the woman originally wanted $75,000 but was talked down to $30,000.

The child’s mother is currently incarcerated on unrelated charges.

The infant has been turned over to child welfare officials.

Authorities said they didn’t know if Bigbee or Works had an attorney.

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  • moonpeace
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 12:24pm

    I don’t understand why this happens to me. I post a message and it doesn’t show when I check it. I post it again and get a notice that it cannot post a duplicate message. So I change a word or tow and post it again and then suddenly both posts are listed. Do I need patience or what?

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    • zagfan
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 3:12pm

      Maybe you need your wife to help you…you know, the one you want to trade in..LOL

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 5:54pm

      Comment. Patience…. Go off article, read, read, read some more, add some comments, add other comments and go back to the first one a bit later. Yes, it takes awhile depending on traffic.

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  • moonpeace
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 12:20pm

    Second Listing:
    It is difficult for me to imagine such a cold, heartless person doing this to a child of God. A relative, or even a stranger, how could anyone do this to pure innocence? Obviously, the grandmother has never known love herself. Therefore she had no love to give her own daughter who is paying the consequences right now by serving time in prison. That’s usually the way it goes. We can only love when we have known love. In spite of her own very likely mistreatment as a child, the grandmother must nonetheless suffer the consequences of such an evil deed. Somebody in the family has to eventually break the chain of mistreatment or it will continue on down the family line. Children are just so special and so wanted by the majority of human beings, and it actually hurts to think of one being treated this way.
    Now, on a lighter side, I have a wife, two-tone, no tears, rips, or otherwise unusual wear whom I am willing to sell for just $5000 OBO. I’m guessing she has less than 1000 hours of heavy use. Have kept up with regular 6 month check-ups since bringing her home. Would also be willing to trade for a slightly newer or lesser model.
    Just call moonpeace at 814-555-0651 and leave name and number.

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    • valarie
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 1:10pm

      Moon, I strongly suggest that you do not let your wife see that post. Just sayin’…

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  • moonpeace
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 12:16pm

    It is difficult for me to imagine such a cold, heartless person doing this to a child. A relative, or even a stranger, how could anyone do this to an innocent child? Obviously, the grandmother has never known love herself. Therefore she had no love to give her own daughter who is paying the consequences right now by serving time in prison. That’s usually the way it goes. We can only love when we know love. In spite of her own very likely mistreatment as a child, the grandmother must nonetheless suffer the consequences of such an evil deed. Somebody in the family has to eventually break the chain of mistreatment or it will continue on down the family line. Children are just so special and so wanted by the majority of human beings, and it actually hurts to think of one being treated this way.
    Now, on a lighter side, I have a wife, two-tone, no tears, rips, or otherwise unusual wear that I am willing to sell for just $5000 OBO. I’m guessing she has less than 1000 hours of heavy use. Have kept up with regular 6 month check-ups since bringing her home. Would also be willing to trade for a slightly newer or lesser model.
    Just call moonpeace at 814-555-0651 and leave name and number.

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  • mikenleeds
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 12:07pm

    granny and her young stud need some money for there fix ,,,, hide your grand babies

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  • PATRIOTMAMA
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 11:22am

    To the former prisoner that posted here: While I don‘t know you and will give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re not a horrible person; Losing your right to vote is a consequence of the crimes you were convicted of. I believe as the bible says that people should be forgiven but even God doesn’t take us out of the consequences of our actions. If you have committed a crime that you were convicted of you suffer the consequences of those actions. I‘m glad that you appear to have learned something from it but that doesn’t mean you should get to get out of the consequences.

    If you feel strongly about the constitution and want to make a difference, make a difference where you are. Meaning, go and share your testimony with people and teach them about the constitution and why your right to vote is so important. You’ve lost yours and now you regret it. Take the lesson and the circumstances God has put before you and use it for good.

    But I’m sorry, losing your right to vote is a legitimate punishment and consequence for criminals. End of story, no second chance on that one. I’m sorry.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 11:04am

    I bet she has a fading Obama bumper sticker on her car.

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  • dontbotherme
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:50am

    I feel so sorry for the baby. Thank God he is to young to ever remember this. I sincerely pray that a good, loving family is found for him asap far far away from Florida. God will take care of the “grandmother”. I would die for my grandchildren.

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  • valarie
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:40am

    What a filthy, worthless, crack-head, piece of s#i^. Behold your typical Democrat voter.

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  • mamawalker
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:38am

    The real travesty is that our current adoption system is very broken! While there are many couples who want to adopt in the US, they go out of the country so they don’t have to worry about a stupid judge giving the child back to its biological parents! It’s despicable how our system works and this baby will likely be tossed from home to home until it is older and possibly remain in the system indefinitely!

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  • bertr
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:27am

    and if she had aborted a child rather then trying to sell it, it would have just been another day in america. that makes me wonder about society more then what happened

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 11:39am

      That’s not thte point. It’s another example of an over regulated, GOVERNMENT failed system. The child has the right to LIVE, just never with these people. How many young women say I could NEVER give my child away, as in adoption, but in the next breath they want to ABORT the same child? Child protection should only go so far, then the best interest of the CHILD should come first.

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    • bertr
      Posted on December 2, 2010 at 11:10pm

      You are right, im letting my disgust with what we allow in similar situations to make me apathetic and cynical to the things we must preserve
      Im trying to be on the right side but the hypocracy of current America angers me, this is still a very wrong, just not as wrong as what we commonly accept as ok in these times
      I live for this country and i seldom reference abortion because it seems an evil that another generation must face(maybe why Franklin didnt fight harder against slavery) but in reference to the fundamental wrong in this story, they seem relevant

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  • barbaraw62
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:20am

    Shouldn’t shoot anyone…. what’s wrong with you people… ya sound like a bunch of vigilantes! Stop it… somebody just love that child so that he doesn’t have the same rotten morals as his parents and grandparents…. I would do it if they would let me…..

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  • benrush
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:58am

    Nobody suggested shooting the child. Put on your reading glasses.

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  • Devil Dog 7175
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:49am

    One way ticket to Iran… Maybe a “rock” party… nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more…

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    • SgtB
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:36am

      Hey Devil, was 1775 already taken?

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  • grandmaof5
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:28am

    Equaljustice, I’m sorry, you don’t recognize SNL humor? I guess it’s funny when they do it but only on NBC and nowhere else. Get over yourself and lighten up.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:43am

      NO. I do NOT think saying you should SHOOT someone, ESPECIALLY the child, is funny. It’s just plain SICK! That‘s LIBERAL comedy that I don’t find amusing..

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    • SgtB
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:46am

      @ equal justice
      We are the angry mob, luckily we do live in a country where the rule of law is generally followed. However, it is our belief, no matter how much of a libertarian I am, that there is no place in this world for a child to be sold. The grandmother should have made the state aware that she couldn’t care for the child or was unwilling, then he/she should have gone into protective custody and lived with a foster family until the custody issue could be settled by a competant individual or group of individuals.
      What you are reacting to is merely our reaction to the deplorable way in which this child was treated, which cannot be excused. You sound like a regular person and I am sure that you understand that 99.9 percent of the people who frequent this site are the least likely Americans to deny another their rights, even that of a fair trial. Once again, this is only our personal reaction and not what we actually act on.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:52am

      I wish my grandma thought like you grandmaof5, mine is a leberal democrat along with my grandfather. The worst part is that they live off of his federal retirement and social security, which he thinks can go on forever. I’ve tried to explain that it is a Ponzi scheme, but it is hard to convince the few who the scheme worked for that it IS a scheme and that they are actually stealing money from the next guy in line and so forth.

      Ron Paul for President, 2012

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 12:24pm

      Equaljustice, I reread the comments and can’t see anywhere “shoot the baby” is included, only smart aleck comments about the grandmother and her boyfriend. I bet none of us have put our children or grandchildren up for sale lately so those two deserve a little jabbing.

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  • Ray2447
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:23am

    Women’s domestic violence against men and children is grossly under reported, while child victims and male victims are still routinely being ignored by the taxpayer funded domestic violence industry. According to the U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services and DOJ statistics, more kids are killed by neglect and abuse in a year (1,760 in 2007), than all the female intimate partner homicides in a year. Mothers are the single largest group of kid killers, according to HHS ( child deaths by neglect and abuse section) and they have a rate twice that of fathers. Nowhere near the money is spent to protect kids from kid killing mothers as is spent by the domestic violence industry to protect women. A lot of innocent men are witch-hunted by the corrupt, gender feminist influenced, taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry. Involving the corrupt d.v. industry in an attempt to prevent abusive and neglectful deaths of children is a big mistake. No place better characterizes the corruption of the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry than “Los Misandry.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAmOxvudpF8

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:16am

    The sad thing is that this child would be better off SOLD to a good family! Now he is in foster care in custody of the STATE. The dad will not show up for fear of having to support the child. He will be forced to have “PRISON” visits with the mom and the grandmother. He will go back and forth to the mom’a custody as she goes in and out of jail and by the time he is around 12, the mom won’t care any longer. THEN she will finally relinguish parental rights. I was a foster parent and it’s a messed up system! These poor kids don’t stand a chance in that system! :(

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    • missmarie
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:30am

      I know exactly how you feel. Direct knowledge and involvement with the system forces you to look at these heartbreaking situations through a different set of eyes. I’m an emergency foster parent, which means I’m the one picking up abused, injured or sick, and neglected or abandoned children from police stations and hospitals in the middle of the night. My thoughts and prayers go out to this precious and innocent baby. In reality, it will be several years before the system get “approval” to place the baby up for adoption and there is a high likelihood that this child will have been moved in and out of several “homes” by that time. It is sickening. Psycho granny can rot in jail, or preferably a much hotter location, for eternity.

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    • wecanhandlethetruth
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 6:25pm

      Agree completely!!! If Florida is anything like Nebraska HHS they will try to reunite the child with Mom no matter what kind of mother she is.

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    • wilted6orchid
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:18am

      To those rejoicing that this child has been saved from the horrible granny and being sold to someone else. Think for a minute about what kind of person would illegally buy a child. Not a pretty picture. Human traffiicking does still exist. It’s a bid situation all around. Foster care isn’t the best place for a child to grow up, and adoption is a long way off…if someone will adopt him before he ends up in Juvenile hall himself. Bless his heart, I hope all the best for him.

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  • SnapTie
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:09am

    Please somebody cut off that gene pool.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:33am

      We have a eugenicist here! Careful, we‘ve been there as a country before and it ain’t pretty.

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  • HillCountryPatriot
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:01am

    Is anyone else looking at the picture of this woman and saying “That HAG is not even close to 45 years old! That must be a mistake–she looks like she is at least 70!” Like an ‘ol dried-up piece of leather! Ugh!

    Thank God they got that kid away from her. I agree… save the taxpayers some money and put them out of their misery.

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    • Divern808
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:57am

      If you knew what Meth does to people, that Old crone is probably 40 years old.

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  • belleharbor
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:59am

    Whats funny is someone had sex with that women.I know it is serious but are you going to tell me no one knew she was this way lets look back over her life as a mother nice tree.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:44am

      No, really, she used to be a supermodel in Daytona but as she got older the government wouldn’t pay for her implants, facelift and tummy tuck so she fell on hard times. Same with her young boyfriend. Now they will go to jail and all that is probably included in the penal healthcare so when they get out they will be nipped and tucked and ready to go. Actually on a “man scale” she is probably a two-******. Children’s Home Society is a great source for adoption in North FL so hopefully someone will be happy parents if mom will sign baby over. Prayers for baby.

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  • belleharbor
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:57am

    Now that’s a good way to stimulate the economy.

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  • wildturkeywatcher
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:54am

    This is one case where parental rights should be TERMINATED as quickly as possible and this baby should be adopted by one of the families who so desperately want a baby and will give it a good home. Move fast, Florida. This baby needs love and comfort to grow and develop NOW.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:17am

      I think there isn’t enough info to say that parental rights should be stripped away. We don’t know what the mother is in jail for, maybe she is in for a short time on something minor, maybe she had the baby in jail and wants to turn her life around for her child. The grandmother deserves everything she is going to get, even if her jail time is inappropriate she will live her life as a pariah, and I think she may be able to look forward to a real hot place when she passes, and I’m not talking about Florida.

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:28pm

      Oh please KATE … how about we worry about what is best for the baby and NOT worthless parents “rights”.

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  • EP46
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:51am

    And the UN is condemning us for capital punishment ? With people like this ?

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  • CAMOCOWBOY777
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:49am

    Here’s a money saving tip. One .45 to the back of the head for both of them. Cost, .50 cents
    No incarceration, no costly litigation, and no taxpayers having to foot the bill. Make them dig their own hole too. Of course someone will have to cover the hole… Maybe some volunteers can be found to do that for free.

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    • wildturkeywatcher
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:56am

      Whoa; hold up there partner. Save the baby; let the law take its course with the idiots.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:57am

      How ’bout we just drop them over the border in Mexico and then the UN can blame them for human rights violations when they are executed.

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    • Dirty Harry
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:04am

      “Here’s a money saving tip. One .45 to the back of the head for both of them. Cost, .50 cents”

      I disagree with this wholeheartedly!!! A 158 grain jacketed hollowpoint .357 is much more appropriate. Costs a little more but well worth it.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:18am

      This conversation is SICK? who are you people? TROLLS, go back under your bridge..

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    • CAMOCOWBOY777
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:28am

      Okay Wildturkey, you foot the bill. Equal Justice will help you. Maybe then you two and Amnesty International can protest that they didnt get a fair trial. Maybe you would like to help with their legal defense as well. Oh sorry, I forgot, THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING ALREADY PAYING FOR IT.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:41am

      WOW. We already foot the bill and these people may be sick, but to say you want to shoot anyone, especially the innocent baby, makes you even MORE sick.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:30am

      Whoa Whoa Whoa! Nobody said anything about shooting the child! It is the two people who tried to SELL A PERSON that we think should be shot. And I don’t see a need to waste a perfectly good .45 or .357 to do it, a .22 LR is effective at point blank and costs pennies. We are not gonna get this country out of debt by spending willy nilly you guys, I’m ashamed.

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    • MadeInAmerica
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 5:46pm

      Shoot the baby? LOL!!! WhereTH did you come up with THAT?

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    • CAMOCOWBOY777
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:47pm

      EqualJ, you should really read these stories before you start commenting on them….
      Obviously I was referring to the woman and her boyfriend (who’s name and age were given in the text).
      You’re just another bleeding heart pants pee-er looking for an excuse to fly in someones face. I have seen your type plenty of times before. Although most of those people were adolescents.

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  • DagneyT
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:44am

    This is beyond despicable! I hope they throw away the key! They have a special place in Hell for people like this!

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:27pm

      Hopefully someone NOT IN THIS FAMILY .. will have a chance to adopt and give this child a real life .. and not what this family obviously offers .. a life of crime.

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  • CandaceGray25
    Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:39am

    Wow. No wonder the mother of the child is in prison. With a mom like that…

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:55am

      My sentiments exactly. I have to wonder just how truly uncommon situations like this woman trying to sell a child – her own grandchild for God’s sake!!!

      Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}  
    • mizflame98
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 9:10am

      The irony is the infant probably would have been in far better hands if the sale went though. Crazy grandmother and incarcerated mother. The situation can only get better for that baby.

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    • kwatch
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:10am

      and you know the dems- they want to make sure prisoners have the right to vote! sickening isn’t it?

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    • ElaineA
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:28am

      Well it is a sad story but at least it was her OWN grandchild …. think about it.

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    • AngryTexanFromAmarillo
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 10:46am

      @kwatch While I don’t agree prisoners should be aloud to vote, I do feel once they are released and off parole for a certain amount of years they should get that right back. No where in the constitution or the bill of rights does it say a convicted criminal loses his/her right to vote and as a former prisoner myself I wish I could.

      Just because someone has been to prison doesn’t mean they are a horrible person. And I can promise you this, While I was in I met A LOT guards that deserved to be there as much if not more than some of the prisoners. But I was naive once in thinking anyone sent to prison deserved to be there, until I was on the other end of a BS felony charge.

      Don‘t get me wrong there are some bad people in prison but I also know their are a bunch in there that shouldn’t be. our legal system is screwed up beyond anything most people realize. In todays world its no longer innocent until proven guilty,

      I guess what i’m trying to get at is this, Don’t stereotype all prisoners or ex-cons because believe it or not some of them are actually productive members of society. They learned from their passed mistakes and have been made better people. and to continue to punish them after they have done their time is not fair. Of all the rights I lost once I was convicted (not really convicted more like Scared into signing a plea bargain) my right to vote is the one that bothers me the most.

      I did enjoy hunting at one time but the loss of being able to own a gun doesn’t bother me as much as losing my right to vote.

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    • Major Infidel
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 2:02pm

      I have lost all hope for humanity.

      We need a good plague.

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    • UPSETVET
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 2:58pm

      I really feel sorry for Patty and Lawrence possibly not having an attorney, looks like they just might need one. How about the attorneys of the ACLU, couldn’t they defend them for, unfair restraint on comercial activity, or something like that. Poor kid, Mom in the slammer and grandma trying to sell him. Truth is, he’ll be better off without Mom or gGandmom. I hope some loving couple will get him that wants him.

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    • Robert W
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 5:22pm

      Yea she looks all there. Poor kid.

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