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FL County Magistrate Rules Jewish Couple Can’t Use Condo for Prayer

A Palm Beach County, FL couple was at the center of a religious freedom debate on Wednesday when a local magistrate decided that their prayer practices were not up to code. Literally.

Isaac Feder and his wife Judith, Hasidic Jews, have drawn the ire of their neighbors and the county for turning an extra condo they own in the Century Village condominium complex into a makeshift synagogue. According to those in the community, the Feders’ constant praying, and the coming and going, is disruptive. They complained to the county, which in turn found that Feders were violating zoning laws.

FL County Magistrate Rules Jewish Couple Cant Use Condo for Prayer

Isaac and Judith Feder.

An attorney for the county argued that it is illegal to use the second condo in the village as a only house of prayer instead of just, well, a house. Local station WPBF summarized the county’s argument: “You can pray in your home, but you can’t buy a home just to pray in.”

For weeks a battle raged between the neighbors, the Feders, and those who supported the couple. The Feders — which only live in the area during the winter — says they sometimes sleep at the extra condo, as well as entertaining guests in it. In the end, the neighbors, and the county, didn’t buy it:

But what‘s interesting is that the riff between the neighbors isn’t really between Jews and Christians, Jews and atheists, or even Jews and Muslims. Rather, as Palm Beach Post writer Frank Cerabino says, almost the entire village is Jewish — so the debate is between Orthodox Jews and non-Orthodox Jews.

According to Cerabino, the more modern residents are upset about a transformation they see happening withing the village:

Jewish residents at Century Village talk freely about their condo community being overrun by the more zealous members of their own religion, whom they view as clannish and disrespectful of social norms – most notably, turning community pools into ritual cleansing baths.

“If they can get three or four people on the board, they can get control of a building,” said resident Elaine Brown. “And then they can change the rules. This is the greatest threat to the Village we’ve ever seen.”

Aron Sandel, a seasonal resident and an Orthodox Jews who lives in the complex, denies the group is disruptive, and feels many of those critical of the Orthodox members are overreacting.

“We don’t have weapons. No guns. Everything is quiet,” he told the Post. “In order to pray, we need a minyan, and that’s 10 men. Sometimes we have a hard time making the minyan.”

“It’s really not about zoning,” Sam Koenig, a 64-year-old Orthodox Jew within the complex, told the Post. “This crowd doesn’t want this because it reminds them of an Eastern European shtetl, and makes them feel as if they’re going back in time.”

“If they win, I’m going to turn my apartment into a mosque,” Maynard Merel, a modern Jewish resident vowed.

They didn’t.

For now, there won‘t be anymore prayer gatherings at the Feder’s extra apartment. And no mosque at the Merels’ place either.

Comments (100)

  • Thatsitivehadenough
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 8:04am

    I am m.o.t., but, I can’t agree that having so many people coming and going and praying loud enough for other people to hear (who may not want to…isn’t that like playing YOUR music too loud for the neighbors?) is asking a bit too much.

    Sorry, I can’t support them.

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    • pammypoo
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 9:57am

      I agree. We have some downstairs neighbors, who moved in around the same time as us. Well the woman is a “minister” and they would have their group come over and they would be yelling and screaming…Jesus….white-trash. I had to call the landlord numerous times and they were given warning letters…They would also be yelling and screaming in the middle of the night. When they had their group over, you could hear them all over the building. Disturbing the peace! They haven’t had their group over for a long time, but are still loud and up at all hours of the night, along with a their year old and a teenage son!

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  • florida123
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 8:01am

    Where am I RUSSIA………………Of course you can buy real estate and use it to pray in……….Good Grief what is the courts problem???

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 7:20am

    This is a condo building, similar in appearance to apartment buildings. I would not be happy if I lived in an apartment complex and someone rented an apartment and turned it into a Church. Religion has nothing to do with it. It’s called consideration for others. I don’t care what religion, I don’t care who it is, I don’t care if someone wants to have a little bar for them and their buddies, it shouldn’t be done there. That is why there are zoning laws. If they let these people get away with it then they couldn’t stop someone from starting a Mosque there or any other type of religion.

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    • Navyveteran
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 11:48am

      Zoning laws are unconstitutional! Read Pawhuska post he said it very clearly and accurately! If these ppl don’t like what the jewish couple are doing, then sell the condo who would love to have a synagogue near them, especially if they are handicapped and can’t drive to a synagogue for worship!

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  • American_Alliance_for_the_Support_of_Sarcasm
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 6:47am

    WHAT?!

    They can buy a home to do what ever they please in!
    Most of all pray in.
    Where is your seperation of church and state now?
    You have the State telling you where you can and can’t pray.

    TYRANNY!

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  • BobParker2003
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 6:01am

    This is so like Nazi Germany. Why not an American KRISTALLNACHT? Well based on this judges idea, why not? Wouldn’t that be justified? This is truly disgusting!

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  • phil1765
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 5:07am

    So exactly how is it that these people praying in a condo that they own infringing on anyone else? They said that they coming and goings were a source of annoyance for neighbors, so we are going to go there now? How is it that suddenly someones neighbors can determine when you come and go?

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    • mrclean
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 11:32am

      I wonder if you’ve ever lived in a apartment bldg, where you can hear almost everything your neighbors are doing through the walls and wildows and doors. Excessive noise originating from one’s neighbors on a regular basis (above activities of normal everyday living) is very stressful.

      I think a call to the cops might have been sufficient to lower the Feder’s noise level IF-IF-IF they cooperated. But I also think there‘s an issue boiling below the surface here that’s probably going to trump anti noise and zoning laws and you probably have the right idea about it. Bottom line, if they weren’t breaking contractual agreements, their “home” is theirs, period. While there’s a lot of animosity between Hasidic Jews and non-orthodox Jews as the article says, no one has the legal right to dictate how you live your life, the number of guests you have, or the frequency of visits. IMO

      It sure helps to have a cooperative spirit, though. Doubt that’ll ever happen in this case.

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  • CaptainSpaulding
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 2:43am

    Weird.

    They’re violating zoning laws.

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    • Pawhuska
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 6:47am

      zoning laws are unconstutional!
      the founding fathers almost said the inalienable rights were life liberty and property (and they should have)! Their fear was weakening the power of the goverenment to take property for the public good for roads etc. The problem is that governments only know force! They now in essence “own” all property by property tax which is wrong and by zoning laws which are wrong! Your rights and ownership have been usurped by the “common good” that is communisum. Freedom says you have a right to act in your own self interest and because that is a general concept that people will generaly follow if thay have the freedom to do so then the common good is better served and freedom is maintained!

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  • BonnieBlueFlag
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 2:27am

    I can’t take all the ignorance on this site. This was not the city suing the Feders. This was the Condo Association suing the Feders for violating the contract of the purchase of the condo. Doesn’t anyone give a fig that the Feders knowingly signed a contract and then violated it??!! If the law doesn’t mean anything, especially private contract law, then the erroneous Bill of Rights have no meaning either! Either the law means something or it doesn’t. Why do you people hate the law?

    Also, people keep mentioning Sharia law being implemented which has NOT happened. If it does, I will be the first to shout about it. A judge ordering MEDIATION to be conducted within Islamic law means NOTHING. MEDIATION MEANS NOTHING WITHOUT BOTH PARTIES’ CONSENT. It is like a judge ordering marriage counseling before a divorce. That marriage counseling may be done by a priest! That doesn’t make it Jesuit Law! Who cares! It’s just mediation! It’s what allows Judge Judy to make “rulings” because both parties sign an agreement to abide by the “judge’s” ruling- it’s a private contract with no legal order except under ordered mediation.

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    • Pawhuska
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 6:32am

      I agree with your premise about private agreements.
      I disagree with your previous post about the “power vacum”.
      The constitution is still the supreme law of the land and there are some powers reserved to the states but others are off limits to all except for private agreements. Yes freedom of religon, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, the right to keep and bear arms, and on and on are freedoms that cannot be regulated or Zoned out of existance. Just because congress can make no law doesent mean that states or counties or cities can; or else the “rights” would mean nothing and the constution would cease to be the supreme law of the land. However personal property rights allow a property owner to set standards and rules for their own property and if a person bought a condo with agreed restrictions then as a matter of private property agreement they have the right to set private rules. I believe you have a “right to keep and bear arms” and no government body has any authority to restrict that, but as a property owner if one choses to prohibit the carring of arms on their private property that is fine. You have freedom of speech but you cannot come into my house and say anyting you want any way you want on my property! So I stand with you on property rights but do not agree that any government body has a right to restrict bacic freedoms! There is no power vacume! The power is with the property owner! Some infringments are not permitted to any government body! Unfortunately we have lost sight of the rights of the property owner in this country and expect the city or county to Zone the use of others property to our liking. Private property agreements are a much better way to go! If we don’t return to private property rights in this country all freedom will soon be lost.

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  • Chet Hempstead
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:55am

    Yeah, and the use of the word “house” in the story is very misleading. What we’re really talking about is a fairly small apartment in a big building with dozens of other apartments. So if you live right next door to someone who is having a dozen or more people come in to pray three times a day seven days a week you would be absolutely right to consider that a nuisance that you shouldn’t have to put up with.

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    • louise
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 8:38am

      Jesus Christ met in homes with other believers. Nuff said. This is my property . If we have people come over to study the Word of God and pray…..it is NO ONE’S business.

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    • Dan
      Posted on March 26, 2011 at 2:22am

      Agreed.

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  • jokar
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:51am

    I’ll bet anything that if it were Muslims, they would not care. Heaven forbid!
    “We are liberal, open-minded Jews, but Religious Jews?? So embarrassing…

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:35am

    sounds like the spoiled young obama-jews want the actual ‘real’ jews to go away ..and stay away

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  • dcwu
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:35am

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; … ”

    But that doesn’t stop Congress and all the other high handed meddlers from DISRESPECTING an establishment of religion – and anything and anybody else they decide to jerk around.

    How can we stop all these damn meddlers?
    They won‘t just leave us do as we please when we don’t interfere with others.
    I am starting to believe Jefferson had it right about spilling the blood of tyrants and patriots about every twenty years.
    Nothing else seems to be getting their attention.

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    • BonnieBlueFlag
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:58am

      1) Congress didn’t make this law. Anyone who believes in smaller Federal Government believes in larger local government. There cannot be a power vacuum. State’s rights mean that states and municipalities can make these decisions for themselves.

      2) If a group of Muslims or Scientologists were to file into a privately owned McDonalds filling it to capacity and start preaching the Koran, would the police be violating the first amendment if they made them leave at the owner’s request? Just as the owner of the McDonalds has rights to his own property, the owners of these condos in an associated HMA has the right to restrict the use of property. It’s in the contract these people knowingly signed.

      3) It is within the rights of a city to have zoning laws. This is not a private bible study in someone’s residence, this is an unoccupied building being used as a synagogue in a condo that is zoned for single-family occupation.

      4) If you want to own property with no restrictions a) don’t enter into a contract with a Homeowners Association b) buy your property in out of the city into the county.

      If this were Muslims you would be singing a different tune. I’m pretty sure you would not want to live next to a good ol fashioned sheep slaughter during Ramadan! And don‘t say you can’t have animals in the city- that’s ZONING- and it’s also their religion! If you’re for the synagogue you should be equally for a mosque in the bungalow next door slaughtering sheep. Same, same.

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  • TheSoundOf Truth
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:17am

    Buuuuuuuut….the courts sad allowed Shariah to be practiced? Um, am I the only one seeing the writing on the wall here?

    I’m keeping my hands in my pockets when I leave my house.

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  • Chicago Ray
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:05am

    This is just a landmark unbelievable intrusion into our homes we can’t stand for. I can but I can’t believe these liberals in high places, they‘re almost challenging the American population to ’come and get us, we dare you”..

    They just may get their wish if 2012 doesn’t get here soon!!

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    • Chicago Ray
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:14am

      As to the praying, Perhaps if they just change it over to a dual usage Mosque and crack house it’ll fly?

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  • kenia110
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:04am

    I’m a Florida attorney. Without knowing more about the details in this case, it is difficult to say if this was the right call by the Magistrate. The fact that the other residents are obviously prejudiced against Hasidic Judaism is irrelevant to the decision. The facts of the case do matter. Zoning laws DO matter. If u move into a community where u have them then u must obey them. It appears that their prayer circles constitute as a definition of a church. Churches fall into zoning laws because in a residential neighborhood such heavy traffic creates a nuisance. In any case, we shouldn’t rush to judgement on this without all of the details.

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    • TheSoundOf Truth
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:19am

      Kenia, you and I both know that if these people were Muslim and wanted to buy a house for prayer the ruling would be totally different. If you don’t see that, then I believe you are delusional.

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    • Ron_WA
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:30am

      We (Christians) have a long history of using our Homes as secret places of worship during times of oppression & for Bible study, etc. but I have to agree that at a time when most religious sects are not repressed nor is this a “HOME” supplement to standard worship (versus “house”, “apartment”, “condo”, or “residence” – key point HOME is where the heart is the others are waypoints & simple shelters). This does not qualify for exception from zoning laws based on religious exception.

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  • Ron_WA
    Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:01am

    Bit of a dilemma for me ‘cuz I’m all for praying anywhere anytime but I can see that if someone in my apartment complex was using the adjacent apartment as a 24/7 church & wasn’t living there I might have a problem w/ all the comings & goings.

    Even though certain aspects of worship (hymnals & gospel singing) can get a bit noisy, if this was their primary residence that they offered up as a sanctuary I’d look at it completely different … but to use this spare condo almost as a religious place of business since it was bought purely as a place of worship for a minimum of 10+ men, 3 x per day, x 7 days per week is a tough one for me to reconcile …

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  • nappy
    Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:54pm

    Same thing is going on here. They turn residential houses into synagogues and then complain their rights to pray are being violated. It is a common tactic. I applaud the decision. This is happening all across the country. Usually with absolutely zero concern for the neighbors that have to put up with the extra people parking, noise, etc.

    Most of their critics are also jewish. It has nothing to do whatsoever with being jewish. It has everything to do with being arrogant, self centered and disrespectful to the neighborhoods they live in.

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    • Ron_WA
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:19am

      Who is ”THEY”? Who are “THEIR CRITICS”? I’m w/ you the “zero concern for the neighbors” & “disrespectful to the neighbors” part but a bit confused about the “they” part …

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    • nappy
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:30am

      They are usually a chabad group.

      This article is misleading at best. I have no doubt that if someone were to actually look into it , like a real journalist should, they would find the other half of the story. This article was a pathetic excuse for journalism.

      They usually claim their rights to pray are being denied. This is a very common tactic which has been adopted by the group at large. They also adopt neighborhoods as their own and work very hard to get their people elected to local government. They routinely call their critics ‘haters’ in efforts to change the field of play.

      Their critics are normal residents who would like their neighborhoods to remain residential neighborhoods.

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  • CrazyJ
    Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:52pm

    the real story is that guy in the background with the huge goiter.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:52am

      I can’t believe you made me go back and look at the video…..but gosh I think you’re right.

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    • WISEPENNY
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:14am

      OMG it sort of looks like a conjoined siamese twin that didn’t develope all the way. They need Leroy Jenkins to lay hands on that thing.

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  • robx
    Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:51pm

    I thought we could not tell people where to build? Or is it only mosques that we have to accept anywhere they choose to practice their religion.

    “This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable.” – Barak H(BANNED)n Obama

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  • Stoic one
    Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:47pm

    (scratching my head)
    So the modern (liberal) Jews are angry with the old fashioned (conservative) Jews?
    about prayer?
    do these people have the same history??
    ahhh never mind.

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    • TheSoundOf Truth
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:24am

      Stoic, the modern jews call Hasidics “cultists”. Be that as it may, at least they practice their religion peacefully. Maybe they “annoy” some people with their unusual lifestyle, they still have their 1st Amendment and they are allowed to use it.

      The hypocrisy in this country is astounding. They can’t buy a house to “pray” in and the 1st Amendment isn’t relevant, yet when the Westburo Baptists protest funerals they are protected.

      I am confused. Doesn’t make sense to me.

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:34am

      The World is UPSIDE DOWN.

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    • zman173rd
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:53am

      “…so the debate is between Orthodox Jews and non-Orthodox Jews..” I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ARE GOING TO TEAR INTO ME ON THIS ONE BUT HERE GOES.
      You see this in the way Jewish actors and directors ignore the plight of the Jew. In the way they vote democrat. In the way they seem to have a dislike for Christianity. Whoa! Down boy. I may be catholic by birth and brought up to fear the man who wore his shirt on backward, but It sure seems to me that the Jew votes and runs his business in the same way that the Muslims do. The difference is the quiet way the Jew hides his disdain for Christians. It’s a kind of guilt complex I think that SOME have in that maybe, just maybe, they screwed up. Maybe their Messiah wasn’t supposed to rescue with the sword and bring the wrath of GOD down on the enemy. Hey I’m just a guy who hopes he believes enough in GOD that I’ll make it through the door. I try to live the good life but crap, that’s hard to do. If I know I made the mistakes in life and if I repent for those “sins”, there’s hope for me, but what about the Jew? Can he repent and still be Jewish? See it’s like any other religion that doesn’t believe in Christ and that’s okay cause they’ll all get their own “heaven”, even the atheist. Except for the Jewish folk there’s one teensy difference.
      And that’s just an opinion, I don’t live by it or judge others by it. I‘m just sayin’…

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    • BonnieBlueFlag
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:10am

      @ZMAN173RD

      Yes, Jews can repent of their sins and still be Jewish. It’s called Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement. I hope that answers your rambling incoherent question.

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  • JP4JOY
    Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:46pm

    Want to bet if they were muslim they would have won? The whole system is spinning out of control.

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:33am

      No doubt ..remember they have to be accommodated.

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  • RestoreCapitalism
    Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:45pm

    On the one hand you have Jews, and on the other hand you have liberals who call themselves Jews.

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    • Chicago Ray
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:11am

      Or you have the real true liberals who just outright hate Jews and don’t hesitate to say it, which you can see on the net at least a dozen times a day :( ie Charlie Sheen

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:31am

      Funny .. those who hate the Jews .. see no difference .. Only the Jews themselves make that distinction.

      Ben Franklin said We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. At the signing of the Declaration of Independence

      They might want to take note of it!

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:41pm

    cant people mind their own freakin business????

    seems to me they need something to do with their lives………………idle hands and all that

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:47pm

      I’m left to wonder how Jews praying in their own condo is a bad thing, while it’s good that the Dept. of (so called) Justice is suing a school in Chicago for not wanting a teacher to bail on her students for weeks to go to Mecca and vibrate…or whatever Muslims do there, besides plotting to kill “infadels”.

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  • TXPilot
    Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:39pm

    Hey there all you Jewish people out there that voted for Obama…..are you paying attention now?…..

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    • mill
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:00am

      baaaahhhhhhhhhh…….they’ll follow anyway…jackboots all the way. Sad and ironic.

      Hey, what do you think they would have done if the couple were Muslim..hhmmmm????? Holder would have already ruled in their favor and hung that judge…

      good luck all you jewish sheep. wow, that sounds ugly doesn’t it..oh well baaahhhhhhhh you guys voted for the obama, i didn’t.. baaaaahhhhh

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    • Chicago Ray
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:08am

      I say that to my many Jewish friends up here in Buffalo Grove IL (which is like Skokie IL demographically) all the time jokingly but obviously seriously.

      I give em that “Hey Joe, how’s that hope and change goin?” almost every day to someone or another lol

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    • chips1
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 9:36pm

      It wasn’t the praying that was the problem, it was the golden calves on the lawn.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:38pm

    That violates so many laws, I don’t even know where to start.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:00am

      I do believe these people will settle their difference without resorting to bombing each other.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:03am

      Something tells me these young and hip Jews would have had no problem if that condo had been used as a swingers club.

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:05am

      They aren’t the right religion. If they were Muslim no one would even have the guts to bring this up to the zoning board.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:07am

      “If they win, I’m going to turn my apartment into a mosque,” Maynard Merel, a modern Jewish resident vowed.
      ——————-
      ‘ a modern Jewish resident ’
      Whats that term I’m looking for ….oh yeah:
      Self hating Jew

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:09am

      Start here. Public nude bathing when turning community pools into ritual cleansing baths is nasty. Especially with the older folks. I mean, if they were ritually cleansing shapely 21 year old Jewish cheerleaders…

      UlyssesP  
    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:18am

      Darmok and Jalad:

      Yes it does violate many laws and codes across the board; the core dispute here though seems to be one of ideology and control instead of just about the inconveinences and the law. I hope that the matter can be peacefully resolved, and yet I have to consider also that not too many days ago there was a florida judge who declared Sharia Law will be used to settle a dispute involving Islam.

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:26am

      Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:05am
      They aren’t the right religion. If they were Muslim no one would even have the guts to bring this up to the zoning board.

      ______________________________________________________________

      I AGREE with you Muslims and it would not have gotten to court they would have thrown it out !

      When I was a kid we had “Holy Rollers” who had a building down by the river .. sounds very southern doesn’t it … well it was southern MICHIGAN .. but the neighbors didn’t call the cops or anything when they went on and on night after night in the summer .. remember no air conditioning open windows .. we just learned to “sleep through it”. How much “disruption” could this have caused?

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    • greyrider
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:36am

      Well why don’t you try to start?
      I am so sick of people copping out of discussions/arguments with this BS.
      It is against the law because this complex has a set of rules and regulations that ALL members of the community have to live by and beyond that there are the county zoning laws that these people were found to be in violation of.
      Is it lame? Very. Home Owner’s Boards are busybodies with too much time trust me (I lived in a neighborhood that wanted to fine for changing my oil in the driveway of the townhouse I OWNED)
      Is it denying these people the right to practice their religion? NO.
      You can’t decide which rules/laws/regulations/safety precautions apply to you.
      If you can’t come with something better than “I don’t know where to start” than don’t. Either come correct and contribute or stay in your bed eating snacks and telling your shadow how the man is keeping you down.

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:49am

      “If they win, I’m going to turn my apartment into a mosque,” Maynard Merel, a modern Jewish resident vowed.
      Now that’s so mature .
      Hey Maynard why don’t you go back to Israel & cross to Gaza & pray with the muslims in the mosque .

      Robert-CA  
    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:37am

      I hope they were praying for that guy sitting behind Mr. Feder. It looks like he needs it.

      Who do you want to run for POTUS in 2012?
      http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm

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    • dr_funk
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 2:03am

      Seems like veiled antisemitism to me.

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    • goatkid
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 6:45am

      If they were muslim, or probably anything but Jewish or Christian, no one would care

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    • diesel49
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 7:05am

      now if these people were muslim the only story would be some judge in fl. to implement suria law in the place.

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    • jedi.kep
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 8:22am

      stunning abuse of freedom.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 9:11am

      Creative, I must say. No property tax, which in Palm Beach County is probably pretty hefty.

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 9:48am

      Interesting. These people legally own two condos in the complex. One is used for prayer.

      Hey, it could be alot worse. They might start something along the lines of the Juillard School of Rap Music or maybe have relatives that like to play hip hop music at all hours.

      As for the wit that said he would like to make his condo into a mosque – hey, you go right ahead and do that. Please!!!! If you need names of local Muslims, I’ll help find them. They’d be delighted to help. And you’ll find out all about Sharia law. You won’t have to worry about your swimming pool being used, at least not by the women.

      Oh yeah, and let’s be real clear about this. Is your estate in order?

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 9:55am

      I agree seems violate as well the fundamental principle of a God given right to property. If a man cannot do with property he has purchased -within reason– whatever he will ( and I cannot compare buying a house to use as a House of Prayer-Cannot compare such to say buying a house to turn it into a Crack house–or cannot compare buying a house for Prayer -to buying a house to set up a house of prostitution.What illegal activity was motive for the purchase of property? If a man may purchase a house to live in on weekends only –why can’t he buy a house to pray in?

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    • GODSAMERICA
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 12:06pm

      These people yell so loud about separation of church and state and then they abuse the law to try to control church. They will pay in the end on Judgement Day!

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    • MuddTurtle
      Posted on March 24, 2011 at 4:55pm

      Where is our freedom going? Its not like the guy was having wild heavy-metal concerts. Who knew prayers were so disruptive.

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