FL Pastor: NYC Imam Has Two Hours to Contact Me
- Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:05pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Terry Jones, the pastor who had planned to burn Korans on 9/11, has given Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf a two hour deadline to contact him to confirm if the Imam is in fact planning on moving the mosque slated to be built near Ground Zero. The deadline expires at 3:20 pm ET.
Still, it is unclear what will happen if Jones is not contacted. Jones himself did not deliver the message, but rather had another pastor, K. A. Paul, deliver the challenge. Paul gave out two numbers that the Imam can use to contact Jones.
“There is a confusion going on,” Paul said. “We want to clear that confusion.”
Toward the end of his statement, Paul did admit that while legally Jones has a right to burn Korans, it is not the right thing to do. He also echoed Jones’s earlier statements that he had been “clearly deceived” by a local Florida Imam who he says promised that Rauf had agreed to move the Ground Zero Mosque.
UPDATE:
According to Graham Fitzgerald of Sky News, the pastor’s deadline has passed without word from Imam Rauf. Fitgerald reports that Pastor Hall, who’s been acting as a spokesman this afternoon, has asked Pastor Jones not to burn any copies of the Koran despite not hearing from the imam.
Hall also said he and Pastor Jones still hope to fly to New York to meet the imam and resolve their differences over the proposed mosque near Ground Zero peacefully.
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Comments (131)
PATRIOTMAMA
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:44pmWe as Christians are instructed in the bible not to put stumbling blocks in front of others. This is NOT the way we need to conduct ourselves. I believe in standing behind your word but please disassociate yourself from Christianity. If he doesn’t, then I urge his congregation to disassociate themselves with him and all other Christians as well. We want peace-loving muslims to stand out against radicals in their faith, we have to do the same when people like this try to hijack Christianity and make this about a media stand-of. Please EVERYONE pray this situation is turned into something that honors God and Jesus. Not this! Please!
Report Post »poppopschell
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:00pmPatriot: your assumption is wrong about Islam. To be a good Muslim, one must accept the Koran and its writings as the word of God. The Koran calls for violence against nonbeleivers in order to conquer the world for ALLAH.
Can a Christian accept the New Testament in only ways they wish or does one have to accept and try to live the teachings? The same goes for Muslims and the Koran. You can’t be a true Muslim without accepting the concept of violence in the n ame of a world ruled by ALLAH.
Report Post »Lester Willox
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:40pmTo be fair though, Mr. Poppopschell, you‘d have to mention that there are very few Christians who actually follow the NT in every point and I’m willing to argue there are NO Jewish people who follow the cruel parts of the Torah/OT. It’s the same with Muslims. They have a moral compass too. It’s just the extremists who riot.
Report Post »GulfPeg
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:42pmI agree with using the Qoran as toilet paper, however since I have heard the authorities do not allow books to be burned because the ink is toxic, send the used Qoran dirty pieces up to the Imam in NY. and let him worry about where to get rid of it. :)
Report Post »greg4fitness
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:50pmYes… the pastor will have to purchase Carbon Credits
Report Post »spacegod
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:41pmI don‘t like the idea of burning or destroying anyone’s cultural spiritual heritage.We’ve already lost priceless works in the Alexandrian Library fire, the Inquisition book/people burnings, the Taliban’s destruction of Buddhist statues, and the rocknroll record burnings in the 60′s. The only razing that should take place is that of Pastor Jones’ muttonchops.
Report Post »GA.Phillips
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:39pmMan o’ man, can we just say that this man has given up his pastor role in favor stupid political statements,this dude needs to go preach the Good News by the direction of the God he claims to serve if he ever has.
It’s one thing for a everyday citizen to stage a pointless act in an attempt to express a frustration with resolution of a perceived problem, but for a so called PASTOR to start burning books is completely in conflict with the teachings that a Christian Pastor should be demonstrating with his life.
Now we are getting into weak attempts at black mail, DUDE you need to go study your Bible, the one you claim to represent with your Life!
Report Post »krenshau
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:37pmAs a Christian, I think we should not do things to cause strife. As a human, I would do it just to piss off the muslims since they seem to be nothing but a bunch of cry baby wusses. They demand “respect”, but they respect no one else. They have lost their chance to say they are a peace loving religion in my book. They have picked my pocket and broken my leg too many times.
Report Post »123halle
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:35pmeven if he does not do it . there are other churches going to do it tomorrow tn,kans, wym. and some others can’t remember all many I know
Report Post »Cowboy Logic
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:35pmSimply astounding.
Report Post »Areyoukiddingme
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:35pmI think one of the major issues with this whole deal is the coverage. How did this entire event make it from a 50 person cult in FL all the way around the world? Look at the video can you possibly get anymore microphones in a pile?
Report Post »I hope that no newscast will show Koran’s on fire if it happens…. However i have a feeling that this has gone past the point of no return even if no Korans are burnt.
poppopschell
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:23pmDiggingit6: Exactly. The PTB have plans to creat religious warfare and then step up and claim if the people give them power, they will stop the violence. It’s an old method but sick and Satanic in nature.
Report Post »SoulSearcher
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:33pmBuild that beautiful bridge, Rauf!
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:31pmthis is exactly what the muslims want, one huge test to see how far they can push America.
we bet the NYC imam is busy golfing with obama, he isn’t going to make any phone calls to Florida. that “peaceful religion” is about to show its true face against AMERICANS and CHRISTIANS (unfortunately) worldwide.. and a great place for us to watch is Dearborn MI, haven of a huge amount of immigrant muslims.
Report Post »KYinAZ
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:29pmI am really troubled by one thing I just can’t let go of. Why does this idiot think his moustache looks good?
Report Post »warriorcop
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:29pmMen who think they are on a Mission from God are always dangerous. Look at these two Mutants. I do not have a problem with God….it is his fan club that worries me
Report Post »greg4fitness
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:29pmDoes anyone know if this guy has support from anyone? Does he have a following of people at his church that are going for it and joining in or is he alone? If he’s alone just leave him alone.
But… radicals in the middle east will use this for propaganda, even though it’s one lunatic. They’ll want to burn our flag, kill everyone in america because of one guy… it’s not justifiable but any excuse they can drum up with will do.
Report Post »hunterredneck
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:26pmThe media simply needs to walk away from this and it can’t be a problem to anyone. The more they fuel the fire the hotter it gets. The media is the root of most problems in this country!!!!
Report Post »Azmodious
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:22pmHe was decieved? I thought he said he talked to what he calls the Iman that plans to build the victory Mosque. This guy’s an idiot and a bad liar.
Report Post »Rose2010
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:22pmPastor Jones should never have planned to do this in the first place because now he has no way to back down without losing face and giving the appearance that the terrorists have, once again, intimidated us into submission. It was a stupid idea to begin with; it accomplishes nothing. It might be different if he had the support of his own country and his own government, but clearly, he does not. Threats such as burning their holy book should only be made when and if we have the will and the military power to back them up. And I don’t see that ever happening.
Report Post »poppopschell
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:28pmRose, it’s accomplished NOTHING??? Heavens sake, more truth about Islam has already been discovered and much more will occur4. Americans will soon learn that ISLAM practices what the Koran teachjes… violence to non-Muslims.
Report Post »poppopschell
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:30pmAlthough I disgree with Pastor Jone’s burning of Koran, it is easy to be a critic from the sidelines. What have you done to expose the violence advocated in the Koran, Hadith, and Sharia Law?
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:21pmRose,
Report Post »The unfortunate result will be the same wether he burns the books or not. If not this issue it will be another soon enough. You are dealing with a school yeard bully just looking for a reason to kick your butt. They will find a reason, any reason, to re-ignite the flames of hatred. We need only to exist outside of their rules and laws to be infidels and we all know what the karan says about infidels, especially if they publically voice their opposition to islam. Moderates are the bully’s little sister, they stand on the sidelines and say “dont do that, he is going to get pissed” but will not do anything to try to stop it because they know they will come under fire if they do. Intimidation and Fear are their tools, so know eventually we are going to have to stand and fight these bullies. Don’t be afraid, it only empowers the bully. Strand strong with your convictions and know that you will be called upon as a soldier for Christ one day. It will boil down to a point to where you personally will have to make a decision, become muslim or fight. That is the reality of this situation.
Lion420
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:52pmRead the koran…learn that it’s not “just another religion”…….
Report Post »Okpulot Taha
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:22pmJohnathon Seidl writes, “Paul gave out two numbers that the Imam can use to contact Jones.”
Shoot, by now Obama has ten-thousand former ACORN employees flooding those numbers with calls.
Once again, my cowgirl hat is tipped to this good reverend. I respect his taking a firm stance and respect his standing behind his words. He might be a kook but he walks the talk. We know exactly where he stands, no bones about it.
He is to be respected for his standing behind his words.
Okpulot Taha
Report Post »Choctaw Nation
Joseph
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:24pmI don’t belive in the burning, however isn’t funny that Jones is being depicted as a little do nothing preacher with a little do nothing church that can hold Radical Islam hostage and in his little do nothing hand? I said it before and I’ll say it again, this is a modern day David and Goliath. I don’t belive in what your doing Pastor Jones, but I admire your convition and holding your ground.
Rev. Jones giving ultimatims to the radical Muslim world and pulling it off? I see a Hollywood Film in the works….
Report Post »Okpulot Taha
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:57pmJOSEPH comments, “Rev. Jones giving ultimatims to the radical Muslim world and pulling it off? I see a Hollywood Film in the works.”
Yes, sir, sure enough! I think you and I swapped lies about this yesterday, day before.
Jones certainly has Muslims making murderous maniac fools of themselves. Last I checked, one person killed by Muslims, along with widespread rioting, looting, burning and destruction. This is almost as comical as those cartoons years back. Well, this would be comical if not so frightening. Very clear many Muslims are violent murderous nutjobs.
This is quite the turn of events, quite amazing actually. One man, a rather eccentric reverend, just about has our entire world aflame. Crazy, shocking, unreal, this man of God has presidents, leaders, military men, religious leaders, clerics, he has almost all peoples of our world in an uproar and calling upon him. This is almost beyond comprehension.
Many miss the real event here which is placing Islam under a blistering hot stage flood light.
I love this reverend. I am wondering if some Muslim will chop his head off. I hope not.
This good reverend has Rauf and all Islam over a barrel and the reverend ain’t holding a jar of K-Y Jelly.
Okpulot Taha
Report Post »Choctaw Nation
Joseph
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:37pmI wonder if the real reason he deciced not to burn them is that the EPA threatened him with a fine for burnning toxic waste in a city limit?
Report Post »greg4fitness
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:21pm2 hours? This psych job is giving terms? What a joke. Just ignore the guy. There are plenty of copies if the Koran to go around. Why do we even pay attention to people like this? Who the heck cares… let him do it alone in his church. I don’t imagine he has alot of support. Burning the Koran isn’t going to make them not build the Mosque there, sorry dude.
Report Post »Clarity
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:37pmThe media needs to leave this alone. They are the ones that are keeping this story alive and well. In fact it wouldn’t suprise me if the Pastor was put up to this by someone.
Report Post »Mystic
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:58pm“A **** crowing on his own dunghill.” – Puke and Snott
Report Post »sbirk
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:20pmIf Pastor Jones follows through with his threat to burn the Korans tomorrow, he accomplishes nothing. He gets his 15 minutes of fame, but he’s doing nothing positive to remember the victims of 9/11. He’s stooping to the level of the terrorists by his actions. We should never forget 9/11 and those who died as a result of the terrorist attacks, but there are better ways to remember them.
Report Post »Tom Smallridge
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:49pmI have a better way to remember the 9/11 victims. Carpet bomb the Afghan/Pakistan border for 24 hours starting at 0000 hours zulu 9/11/10. All you would be killing are terrorists or terrorist sympothisers. Screw Karzai and screw the “moderate” muslims. Not ONE “moderate” muslim to this day has condemned the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:20pmwho is this nutcase he is no part of my christian faith this guy is wrong and so is the imam but what i am more concerned about is the mainstream media coverage and how they are promoting this as how all Christians are and that everyone on the right is like this moron.
Report Post »poppopschell
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:31pmPsychosis: Just6 a few questions. OK? Do you think that the Koran teaches violence against non_Muslims? It does!!!! What have you done to the great dangers that Islam advocates and practices for world domination in the name of Allah?
Report Post »Horkathane
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:36pmWait, your Christian faith? What are you GOD? Who appointed you to say who belongs to the Christian faith and to cast out those you dont agree with?
Report Post »Mystic
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:51pmPOPPOPSCHELL – Don’t throw stones. The bible also teaches violence against non-Christians. Be careful what discussion you wade into… ;)
Report Post »poppopschell
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:18pmMYSTIC: I challenge you to show anywhere in the New Testament where Jesus and His followers advocate violence against non-Christians. You won’t find it unless Jesus was a total liar when He said, “Blessed are the Peacemakers for they are the children of God.”
Now if you claim that the Catholic and Protestant wings of Christianity have killed each other and nonbelievers especially Jews, You are right. Yes, there is much religious intolerance in these two wings. That is one of the many reasons why God and Jesus Christ set up the Restored Church.
Report Post »Mystic
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:20pmPOPPOPSCHELL – Is the Old Testament out of play in the discussion of things in the bible?
Report Post »NoMarxist
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:19pmWhy can’t they go back to burning bras.. That would draw much more coverage.
Report Post »Rose2010
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:23pm“Coverage”, pun intended?
Report Post »Okpulot Taha
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:36pmNOMARXIST comments, “Why can’t they go back to burning bras.”
Do you have any idea of how painful this is for us women? Last time I burned my bra, why, I nearly singed my eyebrows right off. Besides, if you were aware of the price of bras these days, you would not suggest this.
Let’s have a “Burn Your Boxer Shorts” day instead! This would start some entertaining brush fires.
Okpulot Taha
Report Post »Choctaw Nation
Mystic
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:48pmOKPULOT TAHA – Just had to give you a thumbs up for this one! Gave me a good snicker for my Friday. :)
Report Post »Joseph
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:16pmOkpulot Taha, Stupid quesion since I’m not a woman, Do they plump when you cook them????
Report Post »Have-Gun-Will-Travel
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:18pmStop Islam before it spreads as it is in Europe,
Report Post »Now I do not believe burning books is the answer,
but we need to come up with something
Gigantopithecus
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:28pmHow about we revoke the citizenship and deport all Muslims that are trouble-makers – starting with the Imam.
Outofctrl247
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:36pmHow about koran confetti ! Could we shred it ? And toss it out the window.
Report Post »123halle
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:37pmI am with you 100% ! time to push them back
Report Post »DARoberts
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:57pmthe audition!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:29pmAm I wrong to be excitedly anxious about this?
Report Post »I understand the angst from people..and I understand how people are upset by the Christian’s side on this (from Florida) … the Muslim side is a given.
But at the same time…. I kinda want to see something happen here. I want some man-made ACTION!!!! I’m tired of being bullied and afraid of the radicals.
I want to see the collateral damage in this situation to be a nice big parking lot somewhere in mid east.
Lion420
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:50pmAs ugly as it sounds…let’s do it! I’ve read the koran…it condones murder, torture AND lying…I’ve seen muslims, or islamists, whatever you wanna cal em, treating women like frikin cattle! I live in a neighborhood FULL of them. With the beards and the dirty nightshirts
dorothea
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:58pmAgreed!!! however, I’m getting sick and tired of bending down to the Muslim world and putting the other cheeck…
Report Post »whitaker
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:11pmyou mean like this:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf3mXe7BU0Y&feature=related
poppopschell
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:17pmWill be interesting to see how the MSM especially MSNBC handles this. My guess is that the NY Iman will NOT agree but as Glenn Beck always says, “I hope I’m wrong.
Report Post »Rock Knutne ND
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:13pmI guess we‘ll see just how ’Peace Loving’ Imam Rauf and his beautiful religion are…
Report Post »Shawn-GA
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:13pmThis stand-off is getting dangerous, I do not like the way this feels at all. 2 unimportant men making themselves more important using God as the catalyst. This does not end well and there will be collateral damage to innocent people I can feel it.
Report Post »Areyoukiddingme
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:42pmOMG! This guy is off his rocker…. I don’t like to give out my phone number to much due to spam calls… I can’t imagine being one of the most hated people of the world at the moment and giving it out…. LOL Hope you have unlimited minutes buddy.
Report Post »Freelancer
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 3:58pmIt’s getting dangerous and ridiculous…. I am particularly saddened by the supposed Christians here that espouse love and prayer and then I read the nasty comments toward Islam. If I, my family or my country is attacked by Islam, I will fight back with all that I have. But everyone here that went to 8/28 and claim to have experienced something amazing are doing nothing but ripping that experience to pieces. These two “men of God” are acting like children arguing over who’s God is greater and you people are starting to act the exact way that they want you to act. Stop the damn insanity now and if we are attacked, we respond in kind to protect our nation and people.
PeterBreitholtz
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:06pmI don’t know about you, but I am extremely anxious!
Report Post »Shawn-GA
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:11pmPlease join me in praying, your faith’s name does not matter God knows that you love him no matter what religion you choose. We are better than this, we need to feel our souls and not just follow what pride, lust, envy cause us to feel and act upon. I am an imperfect person I am not better than you, we are all capable of more than we are acting like. Our human life is less than a millisecond in the total time of our eternal life in God.
Report Post »TS0711
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:22pmWe’ve got military helicopters (three of them just flew down the Hudson River ) do flybys of lower Manhattan… tomorrow should be interesting.
Report Post »If you think the Mosque is no big deal than read this…
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/islam_center_eerie_echo_of_ancient_iRTMW6TprkULnaA1Nqi9xM
Shane Beals
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:30pmI Believe that we should boycott all Muslim business in the USA in tell they move the mosque. This will be a peaceful way of expressing are anger for a people that won’t are money and wont to destroy us.
Report Post »Hobnob
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:12pmHas anyone seen the alledge Qurans alledging to be burned? If the Imam is being threatened, he needs to see the pile of Qurans and ask God to intervene. Or if it’s just one Quran, get to a Green Screen Studio make it look as if a warehouse of these are going to explode.
Report Post »AnOregonian
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:26pmwell put!
Report Post »KnowingTheFuture
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 11:08pm“Nation will rise against nation, and KINGDOM against KINGDOM. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.” Matt 24:7-9
Report Post »A Man For All Seasons
Posted on September 11, 2010 at 3:58amhttp://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/islam_center_eerie_echo_of_ancient_iRTMW6TprkULnaA1Nqi9xM
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