Review Finds Flaws in U.N. Climate Change Group
- Posted on August 30, 2010 at 6:28pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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The United Nation’s climate change scientists need to be more open to alternative views. That’s according to an independent review commissioned to study the issue, says the New York Times.
The report was released today by the the panel from the InterAcademy Council and criticizes the UN’s International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
UN scientists have come under heavy fire after “a few glaring errors—including a prediction that the Himalayan glaciers would disappear by 2035—made it into” the last United Nations climate change report, released in 2007, according to the Times article.
That claim, says review leader and Princeton University professor Harold Shapiro, was inaccurate: “At least in our judgment, it came from just not paying close enough attention to what (peer) reviewers said about that example.”
Another report, Shapiro said, “contains many statements that were assigned high confidence but for which there is little evidence.”
Additionally, the release of e-mails from leading global warming scientists contributing to the 2007 report shows that some global warming data were manipulated to trump up global warming claims.
“IPCC leaders have been criticized for making public statements that were perceived as advocating specific climate policies,” the report notes. “Straying into advocacy can only hurt IPCC’s credibility.”
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Capitalism Supporter
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Living In NYC
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 8:38amAl (Puppy Dog) Gore, Obamo, and all their buddies will make billions on this deal.,,that is the motivation!
They fly huge jets and we will be forced to drive Chevy Volts….no way keeping my F-350 and V8 Mustang…before I am forced to buy a Volt.
Report Post »Marcus Aurelius
Posted on September 2, 2010 at 6:41pmThe peer review process is very far from perfect but apparently the IPCC is happy to use non-peer reviewed material. It’s a depressingly stupid situation.
More on this sort of ridiculous rubbish:
Report Post »http://rulehibernia.com/2010/08/un-climate-change-external-report-findings/
asmith
Posted on September 1, 2010 at 2:12amQuick everybody take all of your money and give it to the government. If you don’t the planet will die and everyone you love will die and then the earth will break out of orbit and fall right into the sun. Right. I watched a documentary that basically said that a single volcano eruption produces more co2 than the entire output of the human race since the industrial revolution until today. I don’t know if that is true but it is more likely to me than to stop all industrial production and return to the good old days of the covered wagons and outhouses. It will make you appreciate toilet paper I’m sure.
Report Post »Damage6
Posted on August 31, 2010 at 11:28amOk I think I can understand where some of this garbage comes from (understand not condone mind you). You take a group of people (climate researchers) whom 10 years ago probably didn’t even get listened to at career day at their kids elementary school. All of the sudden their cool. They have people giving credence to the reports they right and even discussing their work passionately and all kind of rock stars and Hollywood elites gushing about how their saving the world. Now put yourself in their shoes. You can spin the data to say the sky is falling or you tell the truth and loose your multi million dollar government grants and go back to having the kid with the most boring parent at career day.
Report Post »jimspice
Posted on August 31, 2010 at 9:38am“…global warming data were manipulated…”
I didn’t see any evidence of that in the report or in the three previous investigations either.
Report Post »Damage6
Posted on August 31, 2010 at 11:35amUhhh……. How ’bout Hockey Stick Graph being total BS. The medieval warm period being included in the first two IPC reports then mysteriously disappearing. The “Nature Trick” . The peer review process being totally contravened and one supposed scientist urging his peers to dumb incriminating correspondence as documented in their own emails?…. Any of this ring a bell? That’s just off the top of my head there are whole books devoted to documenting how the data was being jacked.
Report Post »DGroundhog
Posted on August 31, 2010 at 1:53amThis all begins with Bert Bolin. Rarely do I see anyone discuss his hand in starting this man made warming nonsense.
Disappearing off the internet apparently (there used to be several more reprints of this article online):
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn05262007.html
Peer review, heavily overworked in the rebuttals I have been reading, is actually a topic on which the greenhousers would do well to keep their mouths shut, since, as the University of Virginia’s Pat Michaels has shown, the most notorious sentence in the IPCC’s 1996 report (“The balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate”) was inserted at the last minute by a small faction on the IPCC panel after the scientific peer-review process was complete. Here’s how Dr Fred Goldberg describes the probable culprit, Professor Bert Bolin, a politically driven Swede who was the first chairman of the IPCC, from 1988 to 1998. Goldberg’s very interesting paper is entitled, “Has Bert Bolin fooled us all concerned climate change caused by humans?”:
“In 1995 IPCC presented its second report: The Science of Climate Change”. In this report a large number of researchers work through hundreds of scientific reports and delivers a comprehensive report where they conclude that there is no evidence that human beings have had an influence on the climate. This conclusion is of course very important for politicians and policymakers around the world. But what happened? The editor of the IPCC report then deleted or changed the text in 15 different sections of chapter 8 (The key chapter concerning whether human influence exists or not) which had been agreed upon by the panel of contributors involved in compiling the document. In practice politicians and policymakers only read the so-called Executive Summary for Policy Makers. In this document consisting of a few pages it is clearly stated that humans have influenced the climate, contrary to the conclusions of the scientific report.
“Professor Fredrik Seitz, former chairman of the American Science Academy, wrote in the Wall Street Journal already the 12th of June 1996 about a major deception on global warming: “I have never before witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer-review process than the events that led to this IPCC report.” He gave many examples of changes and redefinitions and finished by demanding that the IPCC process should be abandoned.
“Had somebody subordinate to Bert Bolin within IPCC made these changes it is reasonable to think that Bert Bolin himself would correct the errors. That he has not done is why I draw the conclusion that it must be Bert Bolin himself who is responsible for the changes and no subordinate person has dared interfere with his boss.”
Report Post »WIDE SPREAD PANIC
Posted on August 31, 2010 at 12:46am“At least in our judgment, it came from just not paying close enough attention to what (peer) reviewers said about that example.”
Ya think?
Report Post »Dave
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 11:23pmThe “review” process, while exposing a number of troubling issues, proves to be fundamentally flawed in failing to review the science employed by the IPCC. According to a Fox News report on this review (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/08/30/independent-audit-slams-un-climate-panel/), “the IAC did not spend its time analyzing the accuracy of climate models and climate science.” As computer models are intrinsic to the reliability of climate change science, the failure to review these has produced a gaping hole in the report.
Report Post »GeeWhiz
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 11:42pmThen again there is that whole business of extrapolating data from non-existant weather stations, and the leaving out of data because it didn’t fit the hypotheses…and the missing emails, and researchers ignoring disparate theories from other reputable scientists to the point of literally locking them out of the discussion..and on and on.
But here’s the kneejerk easy way to know if someone is full of it: Any ‘scientist’ that says ‘the science is conclusive’ or ‘the debate is over’ is lying through his teeth. Anyone who says this is ignoring the basic fundamental tenant of science which states that the ‘science is NEVER done’. Never, not ever.
Too many factors that play into this not to have reverance and be humbled by the scope of it. If you don‘t see humility know that it’s spin, and I don’t care who is talking.
Report Post »FeralCat
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 11:02pm“What’s this?” thought Barack Obama. “I can feel nothing warmer at all! That is terrible. Am I stupid? Am I a flat-earther? Am I a denier? Am I not fit to be President? That would be the most dreadful thing that could happen to me. “Oh, it is very hot!” Obama said aloud. “It has my highest approbation.” And Obama nodded in a contented way, and gazed outside, for he would not say that he felt no Global Warming. The whole entourage that he had with him tried and tried but felt no warming, any more than the rest; but, like Barack Obama they said, “It is so hot!” and Rahm Emanuel counseled him to always say that he felt hot when he was out in public, even hotter than all the Eric Holder and ACORN troubles were making them both feel. “It is warm, hot even!” went from mouth to mouth. On all sides there seemed to be general warming, and Barack Obama gave Al Gore the title of Imperial Master of Global Warming Science.
So Barack Obama went in procession, and every one in the streets said, “How incomparable hot it is! What a hot day it is!” No one would let it be perceived that he could not feel warming, for that would have shown that he was not fit for his office, or was very stupid or a flat-earther or a denier. No day of Barack Obama’s had ever been as hot as this one.
“But I’m freezing my ass off out here!!!” a little child cried out at last. “Just hear what that innocent says!” said the father: and one whispered to another what the child had said. “But it is cold out here!” said the whole people at length. That touched Barack Obama, for it seemed to him that they were right; but the thought within himself was, “I must go through with feeling all the Global Warming. I do not dare to do otherwise” And so he held himself a little higher, which was very difficult for him to do with all the bowing to dictators that he has been doing, and his aides held on tighter than ever, and proclaimed the Global Warming which did not exist at all.
Report Post »JustBlazing
Posted on August 31, 2010 at 8:25amFirst post – funny, second post – tolerable…third LONG post about the same topic – It’s time to move on… (org)
Report Post »FeralCat
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 10:53pmAnd the High Goracle spoke all these words, saying: I am thee Goracle thine Oracle.
ONE: You shall have no other Oracles before Me.
TWO: You shall not make for yourself any carbon images–any likeness of anything carbon that is in heaven above, or of anything carbon that is in the earth beneath, or anything carbon that is in the water under the earth.
THREE: You shall not ever take the name of thee Goracle thine Oracle in vain.
FOUR: Remember My birthday, and keep it carbon free unless you have credits that you bought from Me.
FIVE: Honor Me instead of your father and your mother especially if they don’t believe in Global Warming.
SIX: You shall not ever malign Me or else you be apostates.
SEVEN: You shall not commit adultery with My wife, but I can with your wife and daughters and goats.
EIGHT: You shall not ever steal My carbon credits.
NINE: You shall not raise any challenges to the most holy doctrine of Global Warming.
TEN: You shall not covet any of My mansions; you shall not covet My private jets, nor My SUV’s, nor My pizza, nor My Krispe Kreame dounuts, nor My Biggie Fries, nor My hot fudge sundaes.
Report Post »Rosey
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 11:42pmI think your brilliant (”…but I can with your wife and daughters and goats.” HILLARIOUS!)
Report Post »but I’m not sure anyone should be putting these ideas out there just in case “the goricle” ever gets any real power…he might adopt them and we might not be laughin’ any more.
FeralCat
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 10:51pmGlobal warming might kill me, this I know,
Though my thermostat is turned down, oh so low.
Though my lights are all set on dim,
Still Lord Al bids me to scrimp more for Him.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
Though my Honda is oh so slow,
With my mind in his hands I’ll go.
On through life, to others let come what may,
He’ll be fling in a private jet going His Lordly way.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
Though I am no longer young,
I have learned so much which He’s begun.
Let me live in a cave like my ancestors did for The Goracle with a smile,
Go with Him the extra carbon credit pile.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
When the nights are cold and long,
In my mind He puts a bong.
Telling me in words so clear,
“Let Me be clear, I am The Goracle that you must hear.”
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
When His work in America is done,
And His bank accounts weigh a ton.
He will take my roof above,
Then I’ll understand all about His kind of love.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
I praise The Goracle, does he know?
Have I ever told Him so?
The Goracle loves to hear me say,
That I will buy His carbon credits every day.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Report Post »Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
Rhino Circus
Posted on August 31, 2010 at 2:09amYou have a melody to that or may I have at it???
Report Post »Susie
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 10:26pmI am amazed that the IPCC is still in existence and that its leaders are not all in jail for fraud. Not only have they been caught falsifying documents but because of their hoax once wealthy countries are becoming so bogged down in the bottomless pit of the Green economy that they may not be able to supply aid when in fact catastrophic weather caused disasters happen – and they will.
Report Post »Perhaps the most egregious Eco-Nazis, like Maurice Strong, George Soros, Bill Clinton and Al Gore should be forced to make reparations for the damage they have done.
triper57
Posted on August 31, 2010 at 8:47amSusie – why would anyone go to jail at the IPCC. I di not htink anyone went to jail over the UN’s Iraq oil for food program.
Report Post »Shield of Faith
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 10:10pmSo let’s all get on our bicycles and peddle head-long into Cap and Trade. No exhaling please.
There once was an element named Carbon,
Now abundant in organically grown Jargon.
It once was the basis,
For our happy round faces.
Now lost in Al Gore’s evil Bargon.
newsguyfyi
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 9:42pmKermit sings “It’s Not Easy Being Green” (accompanied by some recent Climategate headlines): http://optoons.blogspot.com/2010/02/its-not-easy-being-green.html
Report Post »FeralCat
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 9:24pmAble to guzzle more energy than dozens of normal men! Producing more hot air than a locomotive! Able to pile up carbon credits higher than a tall building in a single bound!!!
Look UP in the sky! It’s ChickenLittle! It’s FlyingSnakeOilSalesman! It’s the Sultan of Hanging Chads! It’s the Ayatollah of Heat! It’s the High Priest of the Inquisition! It’s the Doctor of Doom! No, it’s CarbonMan in a private jet painted green! And now following in the tradition of other great men such as Jimmy Carter and Yasir Arafat, he is the proud recipient of a Nobel Prize!!!
CarbonMan, strange visitor from an alternate reality who came to Earth with claims and scary predictions far beyond those of any sane and honest man, disguised as Fat Albert, and now joined by other members of the Royal GreenLeague such as BioFuelHummerMan and EcoCleaningWoman, they all fight a never ending battle for science-fiction, hypocrisy, power grabbing, money grubbing and the Hollywood way!
Report Post »Conservitus
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 10:23pmFeralcal LOL thanks for a great laugh. Great piece of writing my friend. CarbonMan OMG that is funny.
Report Post »Rosey
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 11:30pmBrilliant!!! You should win the nobel prize for that peice of writing…and the oscar, and a tony, and a emmy…
Report Post »Omega Man
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 9:09pmI trust science; I just don’t trust scientists.
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