Florida Atheists Scrub Away Highway Blessing With ‘Unholy Water’ Because They‘re Not Going to Tolerate ’Bigotry’
- Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:28pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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The latest fight between atheists and religious groups leaves one asking who really crossed the line.
Polk County, Florida, sits smack in the middle of the Sunshine State containing several highways drivers travel through to make their way between major cities in the state. Last year, area religious leaders formed a group, Polk Under Prayer (PUP), that decided to bless the Pasco-Polk county line along Highway 98. PUP’s director said the act was done so that “God would protect us from evildoers, mainly the drug crowd, that they would be dissuaded to come in to the county.”
This gesture has apparently offended area atheists deeply enough that they felt the need to organize an event Saturday to symbolically scrub away the holy oils used by PUP to bless the county line. Bay News 9 reports that the atheists, organized by Humanists of Florida, used “unholy water” to remove the blessing and wash the road because it made them feel uncomfortable:
“But Humanists of Florida members don’t see it that way. They say it makes them feel unwelcome.
‘It sends a very bad signal to everyone in Polk County, and (anyone) who travels through Polk county who doesn’t happen to be Christian,’ Palmer said, ‘This event is not about atheist rights; this is about welcoming everybody into Polk county.’
So they took their ‘unholy water’ and washed the road.
It’s been an ongoing feud between the groups in the county: the atheists are also unhappy with prayer bricks PUP members buried along I-4 and various other roadway leading in to the county, engraved with Psalm 37.
‘For the wicked shall be destroyed, but those who trust the Lord shall be given every blessing,’ Geringswald (PUP director) said, reading the psalm from his Bible.
Geringswald said PUP is trying to do something positive – to keep crime out and encourage faith. He says they also plan to run TV ads later this year that will say they are trying to send a positive message about criminals turning their lives around.
The humanists say they don’t plan on stopping their protests any time soon.”
Ellen Beth Wachs, the president of Humanists of Florida Association and Atheists of Florida, further explained to ABC News the motivation of the eight atheists who scrubbed Saturday:
“’This anointment ritual was to call out the angels to check each car that entered the county, to make sure they were Christian, and if they weren’t Christian, they would either follow Christian beliefs or get put in jail,’ Wachs told ABC News.
Wachs said the eight members of the Humanists of Florida Association who brought buckets of water to the roadway today did so in jest.
‘They understand that a year later, there’s no oil left on the roadway. It’s just a symbolic gesture to show that we can poke a little bit of fun at the Polk Under Prayer gesture. We’re not going to tolerate their bigotry,’ Wachs said.”
Atheist groups have found themselves in national headlines of late for campaigns against those with religious believes that raise the question of which side is really intolerant. American Atheists carried out a multi-state campaign around the holiday season last December, posting billboards on major highways that associated Jesus Christ, Santa Claus and the Devil, to myths. The same group filed a lawsuit last summer to stop a steel cross found at Ground Zero from being displayed at the National September 11 Memorial and Museum. ABC News reports on the latest clash between atheists and religious groups in Florida:
(H/T: Fox News)





















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Comments (410)
rossi_thomas
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:58pmAtheists will always be Useful Idiots for some cult. Right now they’re Cultural Marxists. During the French Revolution it was “The Goddess of Reason.” They’re always some hate cult seeking to tear down, attack, hate, blame, lie, and deny. Atheists make great Liberals.
Report Post »infidelible
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:44pmTo say someone is an atheist is to say won’t they do not believe, not what they do. To says that you have a group of atheists is about as informing as saying you have a group of people that don’t like country music. Maybe they prefer classical, punk or new age – who knows.
And atheist seems to be a fluid word these days as well – some would even consider it the equivalent of agnostic or even close; that’d be a gross mistake. So, while making a sensational article for the purpose of harvesting readers and comments, “atheist” doesn’t mean a whole lot on its own.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:48pmWell somebody needs to go down there all Norm MacDonald-like and say: Hey, hey hey, what are you uh, supposed to be cleaning, huh? Oh, you’re uh cleaning H2O out of the highway eh? But Jesus didn’t come about through H2O, Jesus came about through water and blood. Get it? Yeah uh, Kind of like me telling you Jesus didn’t come about by H2O – that would be the water when you realize it‘s true coming down off your buzz of hurting people’s feelings. And the blood would be you paying the price for being wrong all along. In other words Jesus Christ came through hundreds and hundreds of years of mistakes, and realizing the mistake, and then paying the price for the mistakes – that’s water and blood.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 9:15pmWell, frankly, this all sounds kind of silly to me on both sides. To the PUP I’d says, first, cars put plenty of oil on the roads (and then into the creeks), as if any were needed to start with. Second, if you want to stop drug traffic or other crime, I don’t believe blessing a road is going to help, any more than sacrificing an animal there will (Leviticus 4:35 etc). I get the gesture. Okay, fine, whatever. But try something else okay?
To the atheists I’d say, get a life. What’s wrong with you? You’re just poking fun at people to get their goat? You’re idiots.
Report Post »Gorp
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 9:18pmI hadn’t heard about this until I read the Blaze story.
NOW I am offended by the atheists and will make it a point to NEVER visit Polk county. It make me, a Christian, offended. I might have to drive on that stretch of road and be protected by whom now? Satan?
I don’t think so. I’ll stick with God!
Report Post »Dinkiecb
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 10:26pmBoth sides need to “get over themselves” I wouldn’t go thru there now cuz all of ya are frickin nuts!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 11:05pmFirst of all, “unholy” water is absurd. How exactly do they get unholy water? Run through a toilet or something???
Report Post »Secondly, don’t they realize that by acting this way, it’s showing they DO believe in something. The antithesis of God.
The-Monk
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 11:10pm@Itsjustjzs
Report Post »Are you two brothers or just cell mates at the same nut house? Seriously!
Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 11:52pmJZS says:
“To the atheists I’d say, get a life. What’s wrong with you? You’re just poking fun at people to get their goat? You’re idiots.”
JZS,
Yes, the atheists are poking fun in order to get their goats.
Once they get the goats, guess what?
More poking.
And who the hell are you to chastise anyone else for poking fun at someone to get their goat.
Report Post »Guess that makes you an idiot also, just about every day, ya think?
ViewPointtt
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 12:36amIdiots yes, but far from useful. This attention-grabbing scheme has backfired.
These atheists demonstrated that they believe the water is holy/anointed/supernatural etc. just as much as the Catholics. Otherwise, they would simply scoff at the well-intended attempt… instead of investing time and energy to remove it. If it is not holy, then it is plain water and does not require removal any more so than plain rainwater.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 1:07amCan’t wash it away. I hope they didn’t splash any of the unholy water on themselves. On a previously untreated skin it doesn’t come off either.
Report Post »The Atheist Libertarian
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 1:32amAbsolutely nothing that you said describes me. You are an ignorant bigot.. shrieking your “beliefs” at the top of your lungs. the problem is that when you spend 100% your time screaming at the top of your lungs, you can’t hear anything.
The Atheist Libertarian
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Report Post »strewth_cobber
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 2:57amOne does find people’s willful ignorance amusing… I always enjoy a good laugh (being a believer in the the Father as Creator and Salvation of the Lord) when greeted [confronted] by those who claim to be Athiest and make such a declaration of themselves. “Hi, I am atheist!” and I reply, “That’s great! I am a Christian, too!” Afterall, if people knew some history they would know that the early ‘Christians’, persecuted and enslaved by the Romans (in their coloseums et cetera), were the first ‘Atheists’ since they wouldn’t bow down to the Roman/Pagan gods and the various deities! Hence, the Christians are the original Atheists!
I love God, He’s got the greatest sense of humour!
Report Post »ghostsouls
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 3:02amIn their great wisdom, they just admitted there is a God. How can you wash away something “holy” with “unholy” water, if it doesn’t exist in the first place….. Thanks for the proof!
Report Post »MYHEROISRON
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 7:46amYa need to save it for Islam, you atheist freaks! They’re the ones who will cut yer heads off!
Report Post »little big man
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 7:54amhow do you make unholy water?????
Report Post »rambosharley
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 8:21amIf they don’t believe in God….why do they even care….doesn’t make sense to me!
Report Post »wesinLR
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 8:34amthe people of faith are supposed to pray when faced with problems.. Blessing the road is really no more than asking God to aid them.
Report Post »for the people with no faith to do what they are doing is nothing more than a showing of hate and intolerance.
One side of this is acting in trust .. the other… hate.
you tell me which side you would want as neighbors…(for the lemming libs- its a rhetorical statement really not caring who you pick, its not like you will do much more than blindly go in one direction till death anyway. )
TheShocker
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 8:45amDeath to Atheists! Death to Atheists! That’s what the Muslims would be chanting had the Atheists offended them. Who do Atheists think will defend them from fanatical Muslims after Christianity has been destroyed? Morons.
Report Post »ScoobyCheese
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 10:02amTo me, this group of atheists calling Christians bigots because they exclude people or tell people that they are wrong would be like democrats telling republicans that they are horrible people because they are so political.
Report Post »It is one religious group telling another religious group that they are wrong for being religious. Silly atheists.
GO-FOR-LIBERTY
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 10:31amNow where did I put that bolt of lighting?
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 11:27amYou can have a million tax paying Americans vote, and the court throws it out, or you can have 1 atheist or **** complain about something and that holds. read about how Hitler and the brownshirts destabilized Germany and all this kaos will start making sence.
Report Post »83plus
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 12:05pm“They‘re Not Going to Tolerate ’Bigotry’” Okay so where’s their tolerance of the religions? I haven’t seen any.
Report Post »83plus
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 12:08pm@rambosharley Good point, I’m having a difficult time with that one myself.
Report Post »BuzzardSays
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 12:28pmI have never met an atheist who was not a lost soul searching for a verbal fight, any verbal fight to help them with their low-self esteem. These little angry children, who deem themselves above all others, intellectually, are unworthy of any discussion whatsoever.
I say we Christians start 2012 off with a campaign to ignore all atheists and their shenanigans. We shall do what we want, when we want and ignore these fools. That is what my bible calls them…fools. In the scheme of God’s eternity these men and women, exercising their freedom of stupidity, shall be naught but a sorry remembrance for a believing Grandma or Grandpa or mom or dad who tried so desperately to save their children from the Lake of Fire, and failed. We grieve for the believer who could not wake the foolish atheist from their love of iniquity. Many a dead-atheist already knows the anguish of their foolishness as seperation from God eternally is their every moment of mental torture forever and ever.
Fools repent and believe in Jesus Christ. Your choice death or eternal life. I think I already know your stupid answer. But, hope springs eternal.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 1:01pmIs this really a bunch of Atheists feel uncomfortable driving on a street because holy water had been sprinkled there, or a bunch of godless heathen douches going well out of their way to give religious people the figurative finger in true Atheist fashion?
I know which one I think is more likely.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 1:21pmHoly crap!
I’m shocked and amazed to see that I agree with JZS on this one.
Even down to “try something other than holy water.”
Here’s the deal: I’m intimatetly familiar with Polk County, having lived in the general area for a long while. This is the county that was nationally known as sex-predator sting and meth lab capital of the US.
If the very religious population of Polk County (and the vast, vast, *vast* majority there are) want to put out prayer bricks and holy water, whatever floats their boat. It‘s not picking anyone’s pocket or breaking anyone’s bones.
Unfortunately, Atheists (not all, but enough to make one believe that it’s most) aren’t content with just overlooking things that they see as superstition. They feel compelled to harrass and annoy people of Faith at every opportunity, and it’s only getting worse year after year.
Can anyone honestly say that they can remember somehting as brazen as this or the billboards as few as 20 years ago? Even 10 years ago, there was only the one-off, here-and-there case, but nothing like the full court press that‘s happening here from Atheist groups’ billboards to Obama”s attack on religious freedom, you name it.
Report Post »stage9
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 2:30pmIn order to claim that there is no God, one would have to possess infinite knowledge of the universe. Atheists claim to possess infinite knowledge while arguing that no one with infinite knowledge exists!
Atheism is the stupidest worldview, outside of moral relativism, that mankind has ever conceived.
Report Post »the wireworker
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 2:35pmdid you notice they had to label the tank “unholy water”
yeah you don’t wanna get that stuff mixed up with weed killer!
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 8:18pmThis proves that Atheists really do believe in God or they would not have felt compelled to do this.
Report Post »binge_thinker
Posted on March 20, 2012 at 10:27pmWhat we’re talking about here is the hatred of God and those who revere him. In other words, liberals.
Report Post »70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:57pmAtheist really means communist fascist. They believe in massive huger controlling totalitarian government. Its their way only!
Report Post »TEA PARTY UNTOUCHABLES!!!!!!!!!
The Atheist Libertarian
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 1:35amThat is easily the most idiotic comment in history. everyone that read it is now dumber for having it in their heads.
The Atheist Libertarian,
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Godfather.1
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 6:31amHey Blaze, why don’t you report on things that actually matter. Since you are reporting on something from Florida, why don’t you include a story about Trayvon Martin. He was the unarmed teen who was killed by the self-appointed neighborhood watch captain. Or, is it that you are afraid that there will just be a myriad of racist comments pouring out about how the little n word deserved it?
Report Post »nelbert
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 8:38amTo THE ATHEIST LIBERTARIAN
While not all atheists are like the ones in this article, it is fair to say that lately there have been a number of incidents where an atheist group has gone out of its way to be flamboyantly provocative. Groups like American Atheist and Freedom From Religion have been waging attention-getting campaigns along the same lines as a group like PETA. Following the logic that there’s no such thing as bad press, they act up and attract just enough attention – and donations – to justify their behavior.
Report Post »The down side is that they get labeled as fanatics by many others who then may ascribe that behavior to all atheist groups.
Consider the group in this article. According to the Humanists of Florida, “This event is not about atheist rights; this is about welcoming everybody into Polk county” by ritually scrubbing the road with ‘unholy’ water. So a group that professes to be about reason and against meaningless mythological rituals enacts its own rituals.
Surely I’m not the only one who sees the irony.
(And stop calling me Shirley … couldn’t resist)
Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 11:28am@Godfather
Nice deflection there.
Report Post »stage9
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 2:31pmYou’re absolutely correct. Atheistic regimes are responsible for the brutal murder of more people in the 20th century than all other centuries combined! THAT is an inescapable fact!
Report Post »SovereignSoul
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 5:59pmCan you cite any facts to back up your bold statement? Assuming that civilization is only 6 thousand years old (a huge assumption), that still gives us 100 centuries. I have a hard time believing your assertion without some basis of fact (besides your word that it is true). I look forward to your reply.
Report Post »nelbert
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 10:52pmTo SOVEREIGNSOUL:
By the proximity of your comment to that of STAGE9′s, I suspect you are questioning the validity of the statement that “Atheistic regimes are responsible for the brutal murder of more people in the 20th century than all other centuries combined.”
Report Post »Admittedly “all other centuries combined” makes doing any meaningful research a stretch because where does one obtain reliable data from antiquity and how does one definite atheism in, say, Mycenae in the 5th century BC? Nonetheless, it is fair to say that in the 20th century, regimes normally described as being atheists were particularly brutal and were responsible for a profound amount of deaths. According to R.J. Rummel now Professor Emeritus of Political Science at the University of Hawaii, deaths attributable to various communist regimes range from a low estimate of 40 million to an upper estimate of 260 million with 110 million being a fairly reasonable and reliable mid value. (http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM). This number covers the time period from 1900 to 1987 and includes communist regimes in 30 different countries. (Another data source is http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm).
If nothing else, such numbers ought to provide strong evidence that man will be vicious to his fellow man with or without religious differences to use as an excuse.
Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:40pmIs atheist another word for four-years-old?
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:47pmH2O can neither be Holy or unholy, and if I lived near there I would go help them scrub off that bunch of nothingness, and that would really chap their butts.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:51pmAnd I’d say: well I’ll help you scrub off this nothingness because Holy Water is of the spirit and not H2O.
Report Post »jeann
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:51pmidiots have nothing better to do…Their brains aren’t big enough
Report Post »rossi_thomas
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:55pmItsJustAnotherUsefulIdiotNamedTim
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:56pm@justjim
Report Post »You do know that on this blog there are many Cathloics, Methodest, Baptist, and many other factions of Christian beliefs that use holy water to baptise, annoint, and perform other religious rites with don’t you?
Do you in your religion take communion? If so where does the blessed wine and flesh of christ come from?
Just curious.
Chuck Stein
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:57pm@ Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Report Post »The atheists’ conduct shows that they are insecure in their position. You are right — a very immature thing for them to do.
Taquoshi
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:54pmHow old were these people? I assume we are talking adults here, presumably ones that made it past third grade.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the blessing of the county line happened LAST YEAR. I hadn’t heard that Polk County was in a drought, so I assume it has rained down there. Any oil or holy water used would have been washed away weeks, if not months ago.
Secondly, the whole point of the prayers of protection was to keep those involved in drugs away along with those who would come to Polk County with evil intentions. I guess the atheists are endorsing drug dealers, murderers, rapists, thieves, and child molesters to come to Polk County. I guess they are more comfortable with that level of society. And trust me, they are already there, and I don’t even have to search the local newspapers to verify that.
Personally, that’s not the kind of clientele I would want to encourage to come to my area. Taxes go up and the people who pay taxes and give the place a reputation as a worthwhile area to live and do business in leave. Doubt me? Have a quick chat with any realtor, your choice. Schools, services and crime are the major deciding factors for people looking to move into a new area.
Finally, who knew about the blessing and was “turned away”? Was there a sign? Who made the fuss, not the PUP group. And as for the atheists, wow, they’re running scared. I guess they actually do believe in something.
Report Post »trinklefinder
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 9:25pmthat wasn’t a very nice comment rossi. it makes you look ugly.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 11:27pm@Itsjustjzs
Report Post »The act of cleaning something makes it real in the minds of the ones doing the cleaning.
PaxInVeritate
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 12:56am@ITSJUSTTIM
Hmmm… ask any thoracic surgeon what happens when a human being gets suspended with arms stretched out and unable to support their weight. Breathing becomes labored, suffocation sets in and the lining of the lungs and heart become filled with fluid (i.e. water). When the spear of Longinus pierced the side of Jesus Christ, both water and blood poured out. Since it was from the very body of God’s only begotten Son, the water was most definitely holy.
Next, in consideration for Holy Water blessed by priests and deacons, it is by invoking the power of the Trinity (that is in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit). This authority is given by Jesus Christ to the Apostles and their successors. The blessing of water is called a sacramental. Two sites to visit if you want to know more about it….
http://www.cpats.org/_WebPostings/Answers/2009_05May/2009MayQuestionsAboutHolyWater.cfm
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=74630
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 9:57amWell there is water, & then there is water that has been blessed to make Holy Water. How exactly do you make “unholy water”? Is this some satanic ritual or do you have some depraved minds urinating in it?
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 1:35pm@ Mycomet123
Report Post »Good point. If the atheists really did not believe in any “supernatural” being/force/whatever (which is what atheists always SAY), then they would have “Plain Water” or “Non-Holy Water” — but “UNholy Water” would support what atheists vehemently deny — that they are “pro-Satan“ or some other ”unholy” being/force/whatever.
binge_thinker
Posted on March 20, 2012 at 10:30pmI find Atheists to be the most religiously fanatical of all groups. The way the obsess with religion is really something…
Report Post »ChildofJesus
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:38pmWhat are they trying to prove? Sure they think God doesn‘t exist but they obviously fear something that’s why they’re making such a big deal. Doesn’t matter to God of course all their efforts he just laughs at (psalm 2 )
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 11:57amI think deep down the atheists know that God exists, but they are just angry for whatever reason.
Report Post »SimonPure
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 3:00pmAtheists fear the God of the Bible in the same way you fear Zeus.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:36pmIf atheists do not believe why take time to scrub anything? They are phonys who are just evil.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:38pmWant to really burn them up? Ignore them.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:40pmReally…being an Athiest is easy. Just dont believe. I love it when an Atheist screams. It means i am getting to them. Ha!!!
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:40pmYou can’t bless a highway anyways (That’s pagan), and therefore there is nothing to scrub away.
Report Post »copper107
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:59pmThey, the atheists, said they scrubbed the words to show they were not going to tolerate their (the Christians) bigotry. Those scrubbing atheists are displaying bigotry to the nth! This is America, we have free speech!!! You can scrub all you want you atheists, but the bottom line is you are showing a more bigoted side of yourselfs’ than the message you obliterated.
Report Post »Mikev5
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:29pmMost of these people are fakers anyway it’s a fad that’s all religion bashing is the rage now.
It’s just another excuse to be a NUT that’s it.
Listen I walked away from the church 30 years ago I can’t pinpoint the reason I did it just happened. Am I hostile to the church or think church goers are bad people; no I do my own thing that’s all.
I follow my own path does this mean I don’t believe no it means I believe in my own way.
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 10:57pmMikev5- Your own way won’t get you to heaven though. Jesus said that He is the Way the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father except through Him (John 14:6) even then there will be those who even believe that won’t see heaven for Jesus will tell them to depart (Matt. 7:21-23). It is those who DO the will of the Father. For those who believe AND obey and remain faithful unto death will receive a crown of life. (Rev. 2:10) I hope you will consider these things.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 11:32pm@Itsjusttim
“Want to really burn them up? Ignore them.”
I suggest that everyone ignore Itsjusttim because he just acknowledged what will burn him up.
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 1:25amITSJUSTTIM, blessing objects is not pegan, nor blessing of places. Are you going to tell the Jewish people that they were involved in peganism when they blessed the Holy of Holies?
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 4:42amscarebear83, where did Jesus say that you have to be a member of a church?
Second, “He is the Way the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father except through Him (John 14:6)”
You don’t understand what this means. It does not involve heavens as a some form of destination.
“even then there will be those who even believe that won’t see heaven for Jesus will tell them to depart (Matt. 7:21-23)”
Also, the meaning of this is different from what you think it is. I won’t tell you, you’ll know what it means at one point.
“It is those who DO the will of the Father. For those who believe AND obey and remain faithful unto death will receive a crown of life. (Rev. 2:10)”
What do you think the will of the Father is? Following what the church tells you to follow?
Report Post »It almost sounds like you believing that a formal observance is the way. Nothing is further from the truth.
scarebear83
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 10:59pm…have to be a member of a church?
Those who truly are Christ’s have been added to His church Acts 2:47, 1 Cor. 12:13 The church involves people and in the 1st century those people met regularly as pointed out in Acts and the letters to the 1st cent. churches
“u don’t understand… It does not involve heavens as a some form of destination.”
I don’t think I stated that. My point was that Jesus is the only way for 1 to be saved. Buddha or Zeus will not save, nor any other way that may *seem* right to a man.
“the meaning of this is different from what u think it is.”
I must have missed something then, Jesus will allow disobedient people into heaven even if they do believe?
“What do u think the will of the Father is? Following what the church…”
The will of the Father is stated plainly in the Bible. You don’t need denominational church creeds to tell u what is right or wrong, that‘s man’s way and thus those who will say on Judgment Day “Did we not prophecy in your name? etc.” thought they were doing what was right but followed their own way instead of what the Lord commanded. We are commanded to hear the word of God (Rom. 10:17) To believe (John 3:16) confess (Matt. 10:32-33) repent (Luke 13:3) and be baptized FOR the remission of sins (Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16) and remain faithful unto death (Rev. 2:10, John 14:15) Everything we need to know about God’s will for us as it relates to salvation can be found in the Bible. No need for interpretati
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 11:01pm*interpretations or creeds from men. The Bible interprets itself and is plain as day for anyone who wishes to truly know what God’s will is.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:21pmInteresting redefinition of the word “bigotry” from the progressive dictionary..
Report Post »rawmilker
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 1:16amI hear there is alot of citrus groves and agriculture down in that county, full of illegal migrant workers and lots of crooked farmers that hire them. Being one of the larger counties in the state trying to compete with Tampa & Orlando and fairly advanced in commerce, its also a podunk, backwoods, haven for nutjob huckleberrys. This may explain the recent turn of events over the blessed roadway.
Report Post »SimonPure
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 2:57pmIt’s spelled “Gandhi”.
Report Post »Scaz
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:11pmI’m starting to come to a conclusion about “Athesists”. They seem very caught up in denouncing other people’s beliefs. Not just with stunts like this one, but I’ve even noticed it in my work place. There is a lady who I work with that seems to always make it the point to everyone in the office that she’s an athesist. Like we all really need to know this. Personally, I think she does this to convince herself more than convince us of her beliefs (or lack there of). It‘s like a little kid who’s left out of a club and is ttrying to convince themselves that they don’t need to belong. They’ll have just as much fun by themselves.
I also have a friend who does the same thing. It‘s almost like he’s angry at God rather than not believing in him. I kind of feel sorry for them because they always seem a little angry. Why would you be angry at what someone else believes.
Just my observations.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:22pmWhy, indeed?
Report Post »Seems like an Athiest would not be concerned at all in anyone else religion, right?
Well, thats right on. Because a person that keeps proclaiming that they are athiest, are indeed really trying to profess some other ideal. Or they are just an arogant person. But to think that athiest gather together, pull money from their own pockets to run a organization “against” something that they think does not exist is just short sighted. Where can you find an organized group of folks that don’t believe in Jesus, and have the organization to pull off these “Activist Movesments”?
The DNC thats where. Don’t be played.
Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:22pmHEY— That’s an easy one- Just ask her what goes in the place where a soul would normally be !!!!!!!!
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:30pmIt isn’t about disbelieving, it’s a lot about anger. If they truely just did not believe, it wouldn’t matter at all to them, but they have to try to spit on God-which really says they know He exists. I’m just tired of them and their foolishness.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:32pmAtheists are the bottom of the barrel. The waters of Heaven are swelling up around them first because they are the lowest on the pole, and it’s setting them on fire.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:34pmYou haven’t seen anything yet, just wait until Atheists are fully submerged in the invisible waters of God.
Report Post »TerryDo
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:45pmWhy are they so desperate to get attention?
Don’t they realize that 99% of the people do not care if they are atheists’?
Next time someone proclaims to you that they are an atheist, just answer them with a simple reply, ‘really, good for you’, and then just watch their reaction. I get a very strong impression they want confrontation and by denying them what they desire (attention and confrontation) will just deflate their God denying egos…
Report Post »copper107
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:05pmThe lady at work who is always professing her atheism should have a glass of shut the hell up. She is is forcing her non-religious beliefs on you!!! Oh my God, can they do that in the work place?? Tongue in cheek, but WTH, why is anti okay? Not pro? Guess it depends on what government says is okay.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:14pmWhat’s the difference between that and proselytizing? Also, are your purposefully misspelling “atheist(s)” as “Athesists?”
Report Post »aharvnz
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:25pmSCAZ, I think you’ve nailed it. I was trying to figure that one out for a while now. I was thinking along the lines of kids who get picked last because they are weird but it didn’t quite fit.
Report Post »zhaan
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 9:59pmI know atheists who aren’t this way at all – they just want to be left alone. But the type of atheist that has to go out of his way to “erase” a blessing or put up an offensive billboard is someone with serious emotional issues they aren’t dealing with. As many have said here, they are probably angry at God, not disbelieving in God, because you have to believe in something to be SOOO against it.
Report Post »MrMark
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 10:25pmThese activist, “evangelical atheists” don’t represent the vast majority of true atheists – who just aren‘t convinced there’s a God and have no use for religion personally, but don’t have a problem with you if you are religious. These wackos are following personalities like Richard Dawkins and others like him who have made it their mission to eradicate religion from society completely, and have ignored much of history and re-defined the rest in order to make their case. They claim that science holds all the necessary answers – but true science never claims to have all the answers, it just observes the universe and seeks to understand how it works and doesn’t assign values.
These people are just a tiny group of angry malcontents who think everyone else is a moron.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 4:57amMrMark, well put. Neither do I have a problem with atheists like yourself.
Report Post »MrMark
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 6:50amTWOBYFOUR – I am not an atheist. I have been a believer for forty two years. I just don’t use common Christian terminology when communicating with others because much of it is misunderstood, misused and confusing, especially to those who don’t have a personal knowledge of Jesus Christ.
True believers and true atheists can have respectful conversations about their differences and walk away respecting each other even if they disagree. Christian zealots and New Atheists will have a shouting match and dislike each other afterwards.
It is also important for Christians to understand the true goal of science – which is NOT to disprove the existence of God, but to understand the universe around us and how it works. This desire is engraved into our DNA as humans, so we’re always exploring to see what is over the next mountain ridge or at the bottom of the ocean or in the depths of space or at the center of each molecule. It’s how God designed us, and it doesn’t clash with faith.
To get a better understanding of “New Atheism” I suggest reading “Why God Won’t Go Away” by Alister McGrath.
Report Post »binge_thinker
Posted on March 20, 2012 at 10:32pmAtheists confuse me in their near messianic zeal to eradicate Christianity specifically and their thin skinned sensitivities.
Report Post »burnteye86
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:02pmGod‘s going to put something on them that Ajax won’t take off.
Report Post »TurboCat
Posted on March 19, 2012 at 2:28am@MRMARK I believe you have hit the nail on the head with your comment.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:01pmNo surprise here..
Report Post »The sign of times.. This country use to be a Once Great Nation.
Now just a shell of itself .
A Country that was founded on Judea Christian beliefs, has fell away from the truth and now has joined the rest of the world ,in a blind attempt to get rid of the One true God.
They are godless boasters and they want what will never be …”to be gods”
They are deceived and they follow “The One” who knows his time is short.
And ..“if”.. they follow him to life’s end …They too will share in the lake of fire.
VanceUppercut
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:40pmReplace “One true God” with Allah, and “godless boasters” with infidels, and you sound like one of those Muslims you hate so much.
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:47pm@vance
I doubt tho that he/she is likely to cut your head off for offending God as it seems to be fashionable to do when Allah is deemed offended.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:51pmAre you going to replace Bible Thumping …
Report Post »With bomb vest and Beheadings too ..???
Weak….. very weak.
sawbuck
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:28pmVance.
Report Post »Also I might add.
I don’t Hate “The Muslim” ..
I hate the Cult they blindly follow.
I hate their actions ,their message of hate,
their underlying agenda.
To take by force with the edge of a sword.
Conform or die.. Will soon be their motto…And..
If they ever get the chance, they will take our Country too.
The most Christians do is to point out were your heading ,
the rest is between you and God.
And most now a days , Most “Christians” don’t even do that .
Slick move on “projecting on other people” ..
That some of you…Do so well…!
geonj
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:01pmhow can it be bigotry if i include you in my prayers, as all Christians do? i pray that you may be washed in the merciful blood of the Lord our God, and offer you up as a perfect sacrifice to our Savior, that you may know His love.
Report Post »getourcountryback
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:00pmSo I wonder if the atheists are this sideways every day of the week or only on special occasions? What happens if they see someone praying and minding their own business? Do their collective heads spin and they burst into flames or something? If they have time, I have some windows that have holy water on them they could come scrub for me…….
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:07pmKeep asking questions like that and you will soon realize that there is no Athiest movement, but a political move from the left to seperate the country.
Report Post »Voice_of_One
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 11:31pmI too have some floors that have Holy Water on them, will they come and scrub them for me as well.
Report Post »geonj
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:57pmfools, man cannot was away a sacrifice to the Lord our God, who we love with all our heart all our soul and all our strength. it is never to late to ask the Divine Mercy to grant His mercy on you and wash away your sins while granting you His grace for a merciful death.if you come to know and trust in the Savior’s love, you will be happier people. i will pray for all of you lukewarm souls.
Report Post »The highlander
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:57pmThere is a day reckoning on the horizon and the atheist will soon realize they made the most horrific choice of their defiled miserable lives. May God’s grace touch their hearts- for time is running out in the most prophetic time since Jesus Christ walked the earth.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:53pmPeople neither make something Holy or Unholy, and therefore the Atheists have no affect. Only the Lord makes Holy water, and people would see that if they back down and let gays get married because marriage is just a word, and that’s all. Therefore you will see that after they get married, their labor pains will be multiplied by 1000, then you will see Holy water in action.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:05pmNot to be picky, but holy water is made by people.
Holy water is regular tap water that has been blessed by the Holy person of that church.
By the way, a real athiest would not care who you worshiped as they think there is no God, and they also think that they are right and you are ignorant for believing in God. Therefore they could not care less about written scripture or blessing on highway bridges. Believe it or not athiest do not hang out in groups, or churchs. The real enemy is the left and this is a political move not a religious one.
Report Post »DEFCON4
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:29pm@Macpappy, Sir, I do believe they hang out in groups at churches. They are called college universities.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:42pm@DEFCON4
Report Post »Indeed that is right, I mean Left.
Yes, that is true; and at those same colleges we will find the that the most organized group of non believers will be young democrats, or the office of the DNC on campus.
My point was that this is a war on Christians alright, but not from real athiest. It is a war on christians from the left liberal orgnaizations, hijacking the “Athiest” montra.
macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:17pmDEFCON4
Report Post »Although I am a man of no religious affliliation, I am a patriot of our Constitution and will be fighting along side the Christians when the time comes. The time will come.
bigmel754
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:46pm@ITSJUSTTIM
Report Post »Very disappointed in your comment about; backing down and letting gays get married because marriage is just a word, and that’s all. Marriage is something special it takes two caring individuals to make it work and in today’s world a lifelong marriage is almost obsolete. To let gays be married the same as a man and woman is a sin against God. To throw our hands up in the air and surrender to a lie is what is destroying our nations Christian beliefs. Marriage to me is much more than a word! To be married and make it work is a blessing for the couple and their offspring! Yes, I agree, many marriages do not work, and God made rules for that if you are a believer. I am so upset with the battering of Christian beliefs for someone or some group to benefit by degrading God will! I am so confused by so many hate groups who have no goal, but to disrupt someone else’s lifestyle. Gay’s, atheists and racist all fall into a dangerous category (hell), What has happened to the freedom of living a Christian life it already is hard enough as it is! It is my freedom to not believe in your style of life and it’s your right to not understand my lifestyle because you’re an unbeliever. I am allowed to choose who I like and who I do not like, the thing that needs to be put out front is the fact that I can dislike anyone I want to! However, I do not and will not hate because of race or religion! But, when it threatens my God, my family, my life and/or my beliefs I find it is
bigmel754
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:53pmcontinued:
Report Post »is important to take a stand. When I was a young teen I was molested by a gay! I have grandkids and the thought of that happening to them terrifies me, you want to know why? Where do gays get their victims? From our kids! You know why! Because two men together can’t produce a child nor to women! So they have to go after what is not theirs! ITSJUSTTIM, please understand I do not know your life style and this is not directed at you! It is directed at those who think they can change by beliefs by suppression my voice!
Anadara
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 9:03pmThe liberal left, anti-American cultists, seek to destroy all institutions that represent the core values of America. This is the objective of their conspiracy and utilizes many useful idiots. Why these fools choose to ruin a well ordered society and replace it with anarchy is beyond any clinical neurosis.
Report Post »ph2691
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 11:21pmThe use of holy water is not against scripture,.Numbers 5:17 “And he shall take ”holy water” in an earthen vessel, and he shall cast a little earth of the pavement of the tabernacle into it.” Regarding the Atheist I think they put a great deal of energy trying to wash away something they don’t believe in. Atheist are not all knowing and they have a very limit knowledge of the universe and have no way of ever learning everything in it and therefore they can never disprove God with such limited knowledge. All they are left with is whining and complaining like spoiled children about “the big sky daddy” they don’t want believe in.
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:52pmWhen did atheists start to believe in sacramentals. That is what “unholy water” is.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:03pmHow do you make unholy water ???
I know how to make holy water .. you boil the DEVIL out of it … Don’t be offended .. it was a joke my minister told.
Report Post »burnteye86
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:06pmWhen did athiests EVER make sense?
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:32pmGreat joke, CATB!
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:53pmPelosi or Shultz’s douche comes to mind.
Report Post »Need to be FREE
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:49pmMaybe they should bless the road again may need it. What is wrong with Divine protection? Even for non-believers can’t hurt. Christians (all believers for that matter) unite and push them back to where ever they come from.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:55pmYou don’t have to push back, you don’t have to fight. Follow the money. This so called Athiest group has to be funded, who funds it.
Report Post »I would bet you my bottom dollar that these “groups” funded by Liberal political groups. Or even by the Muslim Brotherhood.
Christians and athiest got along fine until Obama and the left came to power. “Activist Athiest” what a laugh.
JACKTHETOAD
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:48pmSee the spin mutate? Religion=Christianity=bigotry=racism. It’s as plain as the nose on your face.
Report Post »scuba13
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:45pm“Spiritual freedom is the root of political liberty….As the union between spiritual freedom and political liberty seems nearly inseperable, it is our duty to defend both”. – Thomas Paine
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:43pmThese atheists are starting to annoy me with their selfishness…..Some people wish for their religious beliefs to be displayed and those who aspire to the religion of atheism want none to be displayed……When courts rule that no religious symbols may be displayed doesn’t that mean the atheists beliefs are being displayed?Why do they get what they want in the public arena?
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:51pmBeing athiest is to deny religion. Anyone who claims to be athiest and claims to be in a group of athiest are not telling you the whole truth. An athiest would not take the time to erase a scripture, or blessing, they could care less. Look to the Liberals and you will find your guilty party. Know when you are being played.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:06pmYeah – could be — reminds me also of that hateful “Baptist church” people who go around protesting at funerals of soldiers, etc. – could also be a bunch of radical libs — makes the “religious right” whom they hate look bad and promote more hatred toward “Christians”. Yep – could be.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:06pmBIgotry ..??? Isn’t that when athiests try to stop religious groups .. ??? Unholy water?? What is that athiest pee .. perhaps someone should check and see if is a hazardous substance.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:26pm@Mcpappy – Being played or not, they bring these snarks of theirs to the courts and they have been winning. Unconstitutional though it may be, they are winning and our rights are being stripped from us one by one. They are by far the most intolerant people I’ve ever seen.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:35pm@From Virginia
Report Post »Yes I know that they are coming to court and they are winning. That is kinda my point. These groups calling themselves athiest are really political hacks for the left. Where, you might ask, do they get funding from? I am quite sure that individual athiest are not pulling money from their own pockets to fund the lawyers and activist groups. My point is that Christians and Athiest have lived side by side in this country for over 2 hundred years, but here in the last 3 years all of a sudden we have athiest running around in “groups” hating on Christians. Follow the money for these so called athiest groups and I am sure you will find that they are funded by groups like Media matters, Sorros, DNC, etc, etc.
Athiest don’t hate christians, they dismiss them.
flatdaddio
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:43pmlol, blessing are not soluble, lol
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:43pmIs it not a little unbelievable that all of a sudden, I mean like just in the past 3 years that the Athiest are coming out of the wood work? This anti Christian move we are looking at is derived from this administration. I know a few athiest, and agnostic and they could not care less that Christians or Muslims worship a God. This “action athiest” bullcrap is for the unlearned masses, and is being hand fed to you by the MSM. The challenge is in the white house not in the church yard or the interstate highway. Watch what the other hand is doing while you are kept stewing in media soup they feed us.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:29pmThat’s fine, but it also means the administration is at war with those of faith. That’s a might big boot to have at your throat. Ask the Catholic church.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 8:05pmYes, but it is better to know who you are really at war with. The left has hijacked the athiest name and made it a tool to tear down Christian beliefs
Report Post »Mannax
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:39pmDo you have any idea how you look when you do stupid crap like this? It makes you look like you are afraid of the Christian God in which you have supposedly no belief.
Please do grow up. If you feel unwelcome into a place that is of intense faith, perhaps you need to do some self exploration.
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:39pmGod…You can quit playing your sick twisted game of hide-and-seek anytime now…I know it’s a lot of fun watching your human ant farm kill each other over whether or not you exist…but it is getting a little old
Report Post »Grasshopper42
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:44pm“The FOOL hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.” Psalm 14:1
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:54pmI have been speaking with God since I was 23…It took me about a year to catch on that it’s just a game…we are all just meat-puppets for his pleasure
Report Post »burnteye86
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:10pmGod isn’t the one hiding. it’s mankind. Adam was the first one to hide from God.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:16pmShylow ..
I have been speaking with God since I was 23
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Maybe that’s the problem ..You were talking…
Report Post »When you needed to shut your pie-hole and listen..!
ShyLow
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 7:27pmIt’s a game…God is playing us all like Nintendo…Now go be a good toy-soldier,and get those non-beleveirs,that are direct result of God playing hide-n-seek
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:36pmHow can there be as they say “Unholy” water, if they don’t believe there can be Holy Water?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:41pmT’is alike the Satanic Bible… reading the Bible backwards!
Report Post »Need to be FREE
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:42pmThat’s a good one
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:49pmI know Luker, it was a Rhetorical Question.
Report Post »Infidel49
Posted on March 18, 2012 at 6:35pmYou don’t need to tolerate it. You don’t need to believe. When you die you go to where you need to go and I will go the other way. It makes no difference to me and I couldn’t care less.
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