Florida Man Has Loaded Gun Stolen From His Car, Only to Have It Returned With a Disturbing Message
- Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:29pm by
Jason Howerton
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A Florida man says he will no longer carry a loaded gun in his car after a disturbing incident at his Port St. Lucie home. Someone apparently wanted to teach him a lesson in gun safety.
Mike Maisonnueve told local police that his gun, bullets and a knife were stolen from his unlocked vehicle parked in his driveway, WPBF reports. After realizing his car had been broken into, he started making his way back into his house when he noticed a bag next to the front door, with words scribbled on either side.
One message read: “LOADED GUN unlocked car = STUPID!!”
On the other side: “LOTS of children in the area.”
Inside the bag were Maisonneuve’s gun and knife, but missing were the bullets.
”I learned a lesson, a valid lesson” Maisonneuve told WBPF. “I should not carry a loaded firearm in my car.”
“My mind’s been other places the last week or so. I thought I locked my car. Apparently I didn’t,” he added.
While the person who pulled the stunt may have gotten his or her point across, police are currently looking for the suspect who removed and gun, ammunition and knife from the vehicle. The suspect could face charges of armed burglary.
According to a Florida criminal defense attorney’s website, “It is a burglary to enter both a conveyance and a part of a dwelling any kind, including the attached porch even if it’s a temporary; that is a non-permanent structure. It can include mobile homes which have a roof over it and are designed to be occupied by people at night, it always includes the land and property the dwelling sits on. The burglary statute in Florida defines a conveyance as any motor vehicle, vessel, railroad car or ships, trailer, aircraft or sleeping car.”
“If you enter an automobile with the purpose of stealing something inside you committed burglary of a conveyance: a first-degree felony.”
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woodyb
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:22pm“If you enter an automobile with the purpose of stealing something inside you committed burglary of a conveyance: a first-degree felony.”
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His purpose was not to STEAL the gun, but merely to MOVE IT to a safer place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And ‘armed robbery’?????????????? Do the police know that WHOMEVER it was had a gun knife, or baseball bat in his/her possession??????????
Report Post »avgconservative
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:29pmWoodyB… think about it. REally? REALLY?
Report Post »CorePatriot
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:29pmOnce he or she, had the weapon in their possesion, they were armed.
Report Post »CorePatriot
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:33pmand as far of a safer place, don’t you think popping the trunk and placing there would have been safer? This was an idiot and dangerous move by someone trying to make a point about firearms.
Report Post »Orastreet
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:36pmIn Florida, it is against the law to take property out of the control of the owner even temporarily without their consent. This was s dumb move, a simple conversation with the owner would have sufficed.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:39pmDoesn’t matter what the heck they were doing, they took someone elses property, the bullets, they broke into someone elses property, the car, and invaded someone elses property, the porch, with stolen weapons.
I have had my truck broke into a few times, and it was always when I left it unlocked. Luckily, they only took the change, a few dollars I had in the armrest, and sunglasses. But I did sit out a few times late at night waiting. I did catch a young man walking down the street weaving in and out of driveways, he almost pee’d his pants when he started up my driveway, and I jumped out from behind the bush. I think he may be on the track team, cause man did he blast down the street. Funny thing, we haven’t been bothered since.
Report Post »wvgirl
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:52pmHow do we know he/she didn’t use the gun/knife in a hold up? Wouldn’t have to necessarily be fired to be used in a robbery/kidnapping, etc.
Is the man married? If so, did his wife take it to teach him a lesson? Should be able to check the hand writing to prove/disprove anyone in the house doing it.
If someone was merely trying to teach him a lesson, what were they doing in the car in the first place?
If they were just trying to teach him a lesson, how did they know the gun/knife was in the car? Was this a set-up on the part of the gun/knife owner to do harm to someone else?
Was someone setting the gun owner up?
Had to be someone he knows. If it was a thief, why would they bring it back? What were they looking for, if not the gun/knife?
Too many questions. Sounds fishy to me
Report Post »DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:55pm@darmok
Report Post »Good one.
Guy made a mistake so I guess he’s lucky it was just someone wanting to teach him a lesson who was thief. So it worked…lesson learned. No one lost anything but a few bullets which is the cost of the lesson. He should now better next time. Unlocked anything with a loaded firearm is not okay when kids are around.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:06am@DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Report Post »I agree with you 100% on the gun safety. I never ever leave firearms out, unlocked or unattended. And I would never leave it in my car, locked or unlocked. That is very stupid of this guy.
tomas.062873
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:07amHOW DID THE ROBBER KNOW THERE WAS A GUN IN HIS CAR?
HOW DID THE THIEF KNOW THERE WAS ANY WEAPON IN HIS CAR IN THE FIRST PLACE
Did he leave it on his dash or did he leave it on his seat huh!!!!! so the robber stole it from the car cause he was a thoughtfull man and in BIG LETTERS LET ANY ONE WALKING UP TO THE HOUSE KNOW THERE WAS A GUN IN THE BAG WITH A KNIFE !!!!!!
SNOOPY NEIGHBOR YOUR A MORON!!!!!
Who goes around checking peoples cars if there locked or not then goes through them to save the children from WEAPONS then advertise to those children in this bag is a gun in knife ..
Report Post »limalimamike
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:16amSo, the porch is the safer choice than in a car? doubt it.
BETTER. Go to the door and KNOCK and talk to the guy, instead of being 50 shades of grey criminal.
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:30amI agree, it was a pretty stupid move to do the way that it did but he did make his point. Just like it was even more stupid for the guy to make absolutely sure that he locked his car also didn’t have his gun locked up in a car safe. And we will know if this guy really learned his lesson because if he did, he wouldn’t charge the guy with anything if they do catch him. All the guy with the gun has to do is refuse to state in court (and let the cops know that he won’t do it beforehand) that the guy “stole” it or ANYTHING and they couldn’t do anything because they would have to prove a crime was committed in court.
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:52am@WOODYB>>> A plastic bag on the porch is safer than in a car even if left unlocked? Really? I mean do you really believe that? Do you understand how crazy that is? I really hope you don’t have a Weapon of any kind if you really believe what you posted, that’s simply put, unbelievably stupid!!!
Report Post »Weiners Wiener
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:56amYou are confusing burglary with theft. They are not the same thing. Just like people confuse assault with battery, or think they’re the same thing. The suspect entered a private space illegally. That’s burglary. He then carried the gun into another private space, the front porch. That’s burglary with an armed weapon. TWO burglary counts.
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:47amNo, the thief thought he would deliver a social message. FAIL! Children in the neighborhood. Really? Children like the very person that stole the gun from the dudes car and then figured out they couldn’t really do anything with the gun without getting caught? Then decides to deliver some idiotic social message. This “kid” needs to get a “social lesson” as well. A lesson delivered by a judge.
Report Post »JesterJay
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:00amwho ever moved the bag wasn’t concerned about kids, they basicaly wrote “GUN IN HERE” on the bag.
Report Post »v15
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:07amThis reminds me of the time I put my HK .45 in a gallon-sized Ziploc bag, wrote “Free Toy” in large letters with a magic marker, and left it on the merry-go-round at the local elementary school.
But seriously….only the left would break the law when they believe someone else is breaking the law. It’s not as crazy as a lesbian cutting herself up, setting fire to her house, spray painting anti-gay slurs on the walls, tying herself up, and then running around screaming for help.
Report Post »mastice
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:26am@woddyb
“After realizing his car had been broken into, he started making his way back into his house when he noticed a bag next to the front door…”
And putting it next to his front door, with a note clearly advertising a weapon inside a bag, is a safer place? The person who took the firearm, for whatever reason, invaded the privacy of another person by entering their vehicle and taking an object. (even to relocate)
How would you like it if someone entered your car and took something out of it… put it on your front steps? You’d be pissed.
Report Post »buzzkill59
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:38amIt was in a private vehicle parked on private property!That means he trespassed,then broke into the vehicle,stole the gun,knife,and ammunition!What was he doing on this guy’s property looking into his vehicle?You could infer from his actions that he was a thief in search of an opportunity!The fact that he left the gun and knife on the porch is immaterial!He had no right to be on the property,in the vehicle,and no right to remove the gun from the vehicle,nor to keep(steal)the ammunition!
Report Post »Having said all that,the guy who left a loaded gun in an unlocked vehicle is a moron and should be more careful!Fortunately for him being a moron is not a crime!If it were all the demonrats would be in jail!
KyleD
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 3:39amIt’s legal to carry a loaded gun if you have the proper permit; it‘s not legal to break into a car and steal what’s inside. Period.
Report Post »Cadcamtrainer
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 4:47amOnce that person removed the firearm from the car, that person was armed and in the possession of a stolen firearm because it didn’t belong to them…… Not a very smart thing to do. They should hav called the LO if they were that concerned, or at least ring the door bell and talk to the owner.
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 4:57amI would posit this was a female thief. It’s kind of obvious why.
Report Post »Mapache
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 6:04amI would assumed he was armed when he entered the porch with a gun, bullets and a knife.
Report Post »grimmster
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 6:35amUm, the question here is, how did they know the gun and knife were in the car in the first place?This was not done by some random person walking by,but by a friend, or more likely, a family member……….
Report Post »wisebeyond
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 7:00amHe didn’t BUILD that robbery… so it was more of a robbery-armed than an armed-robbery! Don’t forget to always assume… ‘somebody else did that’ !
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 7:51amI say tell the cops to go out and catch some real criminals. What? Did they run out of real criminals to chase down?
Report Post »JRHelgeson
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:21amHOW DID THE ROBBER KNOW THERE WAS A GUN IN HIS CAR?
Report Post »– Pretty simple, he saw the ‘Insured by 357’ bumper sticker.
atechgeek
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:32amI carry concealed and have loaded weapons in my car. There is never a day off of gun safety .. ever. That being said …
The neighbor who took the gun out of the car “acted stupidly”. They should be arrested and charged if they are found. They gun owner also “acted stupidly” and should be fined because it is illegal to leave a loaded weapon within a child’s reach ( a bit of a stretch ). The gun owner was reckless .. granted he said he made a mistake and had a lot on his mind .. but that is no excuse. It could have been worse. Glad it wasn’t.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:46amI would bet money that the person who did this, knows him well, might be related to him, and is not some random burgler who decided to do a good deed. I would also bet the person who did it, was within eye sight of that bag, and saw the owner find it.
Report Post »kadster01
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:00am“‘I learned a lesson, a valid lesson,’ Maisonneuve told WBPF. ‘I should not carry a loaded firearm in my car.’”
Report Post »Well, hell yes, there’s the obvious solution to your carelessness, right? Just jump to the conclusion that you should never ever carry a loaded gun in your car. Not, lock it in the trunk or carry it inside, or at the very least, lock the car. Instead, kowtow to the gun-hating left and take it to mean you shouldn‘t carry protection when you’re in your car.
SocialistSlayer
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:06amThey stole the bullets – Game over – They are criminals !
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:16amThis is just another one of those stories that smells bad to me.
Kind of like this Marine kid that was supposedly held by “gov nut house folks’, or the lesbian that was attacked by anti gay people. Once the truth comes out, you find the story was not as it initialy sounded.
This is some stunt by the anti gun crowd. Remember, this is Florida. The Travon Martin thing is still fresh, we are months away from a big election, there have been a rash of recent mass murders…..
The libs are out in full force, wanting to make gun owners look bad, and they want to advance the gun control.
This story stinks.
Report Post »dimitrisokolov
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:38amA safer place is in a bag on the front porch?
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:43amWow. Are you a lawyer or the perp?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:51amWoody is right.
Much better for this man to have this minor break in than for police to look for him after a real criminal steals it, uses the gun in a crime & then the police are questioning him & the DA wants to throw the book at him for negligence.
To adhere to the criminal code in this case & prosecute the good Samaritan is to be a pharisee.
It is as stupid as Neanderthal’s disciplining a teenage girl for bring 1 single aspirin to school to deal with menstrual cramps under a Zero tolerance policy.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:53amOrastreet
Report Post »And what would that conversation be like?
“While I was illegally tresspassing on your property, I illegally broke into your car, and illegally searched it finding your legal weapon in your legally parked vehical on your property.”
“Now you can not do that!”
Walkabout
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:54amIt was the wife. She is anti-gun & the husband is pro-gun. They are going thru some problems & his head in not in the game. Thus the oversight.
Report Post »FrankJHornik
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 10:08amWrong. The bullett were not returned therefore it is a felony
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 10:16amNo gun or any other important item should be in an unlocked vehicle, but only because the owner could lose them through burglary.
This misguided self-appointed do-gooder, who thinks he’s protecting “children” by removing the weapon is really admitting they have young thieves in the area.
Sorry,but I have a hard time being sympathetic to any “children” who break into homes or vehicles to steal items.
Report Post »UpholderOftheConstitution
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 10:18amWoodyB, your premise is idiotic to say the least. So the ends justifies the means is what you are saying? Completely idiotic.
Report Post »commonsensefreethinker1
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 10:38amuhh? 3 words , LOCK YOUR CAR and yes the moment someone lifts the handle to your car door without your knowledge has just committed a crime. Stay the **** off my property!!!
Report Post »PennPatriot
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:12amOk so here’s a question, what if the gun owner had two guns,(like I do,one to carry and one for home defense), and he happened to walk outside and see the other guy inside his car taking something.? What would happen if he would have shot him for breaking into his car and trying to take something.? Would he have been justified? And since when is it that guys business to tell another how to live? Maybe i should go into his house and take all of his kitchen knives and cleaning supplies and put them somewhere else.
Report Post »waldens1
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:19amHi Woody, while I get you point, how exactly is a plastic bag on a front porch labeled with the words “LOADED GUN” written on it actually safer than an unlocked car? Just curious. I mean, if the person really wanted to make things safer, wouldn’t that person be better off just knocking on the guys door and saying, hey I think you left your gun in your unlocked car and that is probably not safe. I mean, the guy seemed pretty reasonable in the video.
Report Post »brezzeone
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:53amI’m with you WOODYD
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:54amIt was dumb to leave the car unlocked and yes some teenager could be running around trying to sell a unregistered gun to the highest bidder. Stateing he won’t have a loaded gun anymore in his car just put a target on his back for a carjacking. I carry a gun at all times and a double barrel derringer in my boot. When I go into the postoffice I leave the concealed gun in the car with my wife. Starting November 1st here in Oklahoma we go to open carry and I will leave my holster on and let the wife hold my Ruger .30 in the car. If and it is rarely that I’m by myself, I would lock the gun in the back seat consol and lock the car. I try to stay away from places and states that will not recognize my carry permit. As a result many sates won’t see me visiting their lovely states on vacation.
Report Post »1776_2012
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:52pmA paper bag on the front porch was a “safer place”????
Report Post »bobdog19006
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:14pmI think the police would have a hard time establishing criminal intent in this case.
But between the time he removed the gun, bullets and knife from the car and the time he returned it, he was legally vulnerable to the burglary charge, because he would be unable to disprove a claim of criminal intent. That’s what made this a dumb move.
Good thing this wasn’t New York. They’d both be in jail and headed for felony prosecution.
Report Post »Sorionc
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:01pmTrue could not be charged with theft. For theft you must take and have an intent to never return
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:27pm@Sorionc
Report Post »Under your logic I can drag you out of your car take a joy ride, then bring it back to you, and that isn’t a crime, because I never intended to Keep it?
Atlanticgrl
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:55pmSo removing it (something that is NOT his to begin with) from this man’s car, where it was CONCEALED to his FRONT PORCH – out in the open- is better? Are you going to start “policing” people’s front yards, relocating lawn mowers or rakes laying around so little children don’t get harmed by them? Seriously?
And children should be taught to keep their sticky fingers off of things that are not theirs – like somebody’s car.
Report Post »CommonSense13
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 3:10pmIf you are gonna run your mouth at least know what you are talking about. A burglary in florida is defiend as entering the listed conveyances in order to commit a crime there in. The crime in this case is theft of the man’s personal property ie. the gun, ammo and knife. Theft in florida is defined as depriving a person of the stolen object no matter the length of time or whether the item was returned.
The person armed themselves when they took possession of the firearm, hence the armed burglary charge.
So now you will complain that he got his items back…..except for the ammunition. Try a little reading comprehension prior to running off at the mouth.
Report Post »American Cherokee
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 3:11pmWife/ Girlfriend/ Relative/ Creepy Bossy Neighbor is an O or Hil fan and anti guns/ 2nd Amendment. Man is planning to vote for Romney/ Ryan and likes guns and Constitutional Rights.
Wife/ Girlfriend/ Relative has or can grab other keys to car.
“Am dealing with things.“ ”I thought I locked the car.”
He probably did lock the car.
Wife/ Girlfriend/ Relative is threatening to divorce/ leave unless he converts to liberal and they thought it would be cute/ fun to self righteously “teach him a lesson” about the evils of “bad guns” and the virtues of unconstitutional bossy dictatorship utopia.
“Because I say it’s good for you.”
He “now realizes he should not carry a gun at his car”.
Oh glory be! Let’s all now go to France and join hands with Jonny Depp, Gwyneth and Brad and sing the praises of our new science gods.
OK When is the spaceship going to show up, scold the annarchist selfish bossy mean jerks and take the Rocky Horror Picture Show crew away and let Nice Free Loving Good People get on with their Free Happy Good Lives?!
Sheesh! God Bless!!
Report Post »xraycommd
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 3:21pmDon‘t we want a society where we don’t have to lock our cars? Only a freakin PC liberal would steal a gun from a car and have buyers remorse and leave the gun on your door with that message on the bag. I have neighbors in my housing area that jump off the curb screaming slow down children in the area when you drive by @ 30mph. Everyone of them is a liberal puke wanting to control every aspect of my life and YOURS.
Report Post »tootsie roll
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 4:05pmYes they do read the story his gun and knife were removed idiot
Report Post »shakedowncrews
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 5:00pmIs taking a loaded gun out of a car and placing it instead on the porch really a “safe location”?
Report Post »Ladybug29
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 5:12pmHow did the thief know the gun was there? That question is not addressed.
Report Post »blarman
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 5:20pmWoodyB, So what you‘re saying is that it is okay to steal someone else’s property to prevent someone from potentially harming someone with it.
So can I have your car the next time you hit the bar for drinks? Oh, and I won’t be bringing it back.
Report Post »Lgbpop
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 5:56pmThat is idiotic. B&E is B&E, no matter the motive claimed for doing so. The guy is a thief. If all he wanted to do was send a message, he could have written it down and left it in the owner’s mailbox. Fact is, he stole the owner’s firearm and other things, and entered property he didn’t own to do so.
Report Post »Huffer
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 6:53pmWhen responding to mistakes made by others, remember, hind sight is 20/20. We are not all rocket scientist‘s or psychologist’s so leave the person a little slack before ridiculing their actions. At the time they were performing the act of moving the gun to a safer location, and turning it into nothing more then a throwing weapon by removing the ammo, they thought: “Wow, this is really ingenious of me!”.
Report Post »The story should be used as a learning tool for someone else who might make the same mistake, though with innocent intent, was unlawful.
rich66
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:44pmThe fact is they were armed as soon as they picked up a loaded gun and knife.
What would have happened if the homeowner would have come out to lock his car and caught this jerk off?
Someone probably would have gotten shot.
Or maybe he could have been car jacked with his wife and kid in the car and reached for his gun which was gone.
And they all could have been found dead.
Maybe the dumbass cold have jst ol him, Hey yu left your car unlocked.
No, the cowardly dumbass chose to be more creative instead of politely acting like a man and doing it face to face.
Jerk!
And another thing, it should have been on his person instead of unattended.
This was the day two fools met.
Report Post »I am pretty sure it will be fingerprinted and then dumbass number 2 will be found
CharlesMartel
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:44pmHe stole the ammo.
Report Post »Normanator01
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:57pmEnds don’t justify the means………Two wrongs don’t make a right. 2 very old sayings…….but they are timeless.
Report Post »Fla Del
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:05pmI live in Florida. I carry a loaded weapon all the time.
Report Post »I have a permit to do so. It is my right.
Sometimes I leave it in the car but I always lock it and the weapon is never in sight.
It is hidden inside the car.
Going without your weapon anywhere is stupid and risky. Crime on seniors is up big time.
The punks think that we are easy pickens and our ATM is their piggy bank.
I earned what I have and they cannot have it without a fight.
WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges12
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 2:49am“police are currently looking for the suspect who removed and gun, ammunition and knife from the vehicle. The suspect could face charges of armed burglary.”
Police … a day late and a dollar short. How do you like your “standing army” America? (Not too bad? Just wait until they get their real marching orders …)
Report Post »adoerfler
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 10:17amI think this guy put the gun in a bag and moved it himself. If the story were true, after finding the gun why would he then call the police? He did this to help the anti-gun lobby, or for his own 15 minutes of fame.
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 12:50pmHey, the thief had good intentions. Ya know, societal improvement. A little theft and butting into other people’s business is good for society, ain’t it?
Report Post »inblack
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 2:58pmThe police are stupid.
The gun owner should have been arrested for failing to secure his gun – but given that he had the courage to come out and admit his mistake, the cops should just go home and thank the mystery stranger.
Report Post »Grizzlyof5
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:21pmThis is a disturbing trend in our country. People seem to think they have a right to violate your personal property rights. Stay off of my property and out of my vehicle and you won‘t have to worry about what is or isn’t in it.
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:35pm@Grizzlyof5
You are right…..
And the right thing for the person that stole the firearem to do, would have been to say, Hey man I noticed that you are leaving your Gun in your car unlocked, not a smart thing to do.
Instead of turning it into this Big Drama, where the Police are involved.
Just be a good Friend or Neighbor……..
Report Post »Rampart
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:17pmExaclty, Grizzly…If your kid breaks into my truck, parked in my driveway on private property and hurts/kills themselves with the legally owned weapon they stole from me, I have no pity for them–That’d be karma and the result of YOUR poor parenting.
Report Post »Celeste.Christi
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:20pmWho calls the police to say “I’m too dumb to own a gun and someone told me about myself”.
What an idiot.
Report Post »Ramv36
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:28amVictims of a crime such as the home owner. NO lesson is worth committing felony burglary to teach.
You have to ask yourself….how did he find the gun in the first place? Was he ‘accidentally’ rifling through the contents of another man‘s vehicle parked in the driveway of another man’s house?
Report Post »Had that guy caught him, he would have been WELL within his legal right to use deadly force in most states, and especially Florida.
And he STOLE the guy’s ammo, which, depending on it’s value, could be felony theft as well.
I fully appreciate and approve of the firearms safety lesson…but not if you commit multiple crimes to accomplish that message!
Judeo_Christian
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:12amChristi, it is not illegal to legal to leave your gun in the car on your own property. It is illegal to get into someone else’s car or home and remove items. The home owner did the right thing by notifying the police that a crime had been committed.
Leaving the gun in an unlocked car is not smart for obvious reasons. However, let’s not forget who represents the real problem here…the burglar.
Report Post »termyt
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:52amIt was a powerful lesson. The gun owner thought so and the thief was right. If you agree with the sentiment, which the gun owner claims to, why involve the police at all?
Yeah, theft is wrong – and it was wrong to keep the bullets, but how about “no harm, no foul?”
I guess the gun owner just wants to return the favor. He won’t leave a loaded gun in an unlocked car and the person who taught him the valuable lesson without harming him will get to go to jail and never legally own a gun or vote ever again. Seems fair.
Report Post »CorePatriot
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:18pmbullet thief!
Report Post »Magyar
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:17pmIf you have a firearm and a CCP— that firearm MUST always be in YOUR control— Period!
If you are considering a CCP, make sure instruction is with a certified NRA instructor.
The best in S. FL is ;
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:15pmThis story is a hoax.
Report Post »getitgotitgood
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:52ammost likely humans lie constantly
Report Post »RRFlyer
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:20amman didn’t land on the moon, bush blew up the towers, obama is a citizen. Love you conspricy idiots
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 10:12amRRFLYER…conspiracy? If you are call someone an idiot maybe you should learn how to spell. It is not a conspiracy it is a hoax. I was right the last time when I said the ***** who claimed three men broke in and carved stuff on her was a hoax and I am calling this one a hoax. You would have to believe that there are two complete idiots in this case. First you have someone who would go onto someone else’s private property, get in their car, take out a gun and a knife. Unload the firearm. Write gun on a plastic bag. Stick in on the porch in plain view. Then you have another idiot who would go to the media and tell them all of this and make a complete fool out of himself. On the first idiot: There is a lock on the door in the car and locking the door would be easier and “safer” than what supposedly occured. The second idiot would never admit this unless it is a flat out hoax with alterior motives. You want a conspiracy theory, here it is: Maybe he killed someone with the firearm and now he is trying to come up with a story so he can say he it happened while it was out of his possession. You want to know what I love RRFLYER. I love idiots that buy every stupid story that the ‘media’ tells them without questioning it one single bit.
Report Post »Freebird
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:59pmAgreed,this sounds custom made by the left,as one more reason that people can’t be trusted with gun ownership.
Too many things in this story don’t make sense.
And the guy that this happened to,reminds me of that puke that stood up and asked Obama to “Please raise my taxes.”
Report Post »Freebird
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:17pmJust noticed that the gun owner was wearing a veteran’s cap in the interview.
Wasn’t Glenn just talking about this regime wanting to dis-arm returning veterans,this morning on his radio show?
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 6:18pmI thought the veteran hat was a nice touch too. They don’t miss a beat do they?
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:09pmIt really make any difference, No one has the right to enter someones property and take something without their permission.
1000 things could have gone wrong, when the person stole this firearm……..
Report Post »GlennaBeckski
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:08pmAm I mistaken or did they give the street name? Then they span the neighborhood.. Hmm nice home, nice boat .. nice vehicle I’m sure. I would advise keeping your firearms very close for the next 20 years or so LOL.
News reporters are either very inconsiderate or extremely dense people it would seem… Like the jackazz that outed the Navy Seal!
Report Post »CorePatriot
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:25pmYou’re Right! WTF? Media morons at work.
Report Post »rusooperman
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:26pmYou were not mistaken! Funny. Scary. Stupid.
Report Post »that_other_guy
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:07pmThis guy is a huge idiot for leaving a loaded gun in an unlocked car. But it also serves a lesson to all the liberal dumb asses who want to mark bullets, this clearly proves that bullets can, in fact, be stolen.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:05pmAn Unloaded gun is as useful as a condom at the Pharmacy. When You need it,its to late.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:26pmIt is too bad that B.O‘s biological farther didn’t use a condom.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:02pm“I have a very strict gun control policy: if there’s a gun around, I want to be in control of it.”
– Clint Eastwood
Words to live by…
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:01pmGuy could face Armed Burglary?!?!?! Are you kidding, I applaud whomever the person was who took the gun and left the message, and also was smart and removed the bullets so that no kid might’ve picked up the gun and used it.
The gun owner was stupid, it should’ve been properly secured and NEVER left in a car, it should always be either put into a lock box in the vehicle or brought back into the home and locked up safely, so this was the owners own careless ownership of his weapon.
Report Post »1RealAmerican
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:29amAre you kidding? You applaud this guy? IT”S CALLED THEFT – PERIOD! This idiot entered someones private property without premission and removed items and it doesn’t matter if he (or she) was trying to make a point or not! Try that at my house and watch what happens – If someone even looks like they are going to come on my property I go out on the porch with a gun – it has made a differece in finding my shed door open in the morning – that and the secuity cameras…………….
BTW – I don’t know how it works in Florida, But in Ohio if you leave your gun in your car it has to be propely secured……..
Just sayin………
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:11amYou applaud this?Yeah I see its all for the safety of the children isn’t it.What child breaks into someones car and steals their gun?Perhaps the teenage son of the current thief.Like daddy like son.
Report Post »While leaving your gun in your car in a residental neighborhood might not be the smartest thing to do,it isn’t a license to commit theft burglary either.
Sounds like someone may have used it and returned it.Good thing he called LE.There is another possiblility I’ll keep to myself.Lets just say if its stolen again in the next few months [whether from car or house]I’d be 100 percent right.
anothercomment
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 6:48pmThis is an outrageous story beginning with the unlocked car and ending with a detailed map of where the incident occurred. The admission from the gun owner regarding the theft, and the bizarre package placed on his door step is frightening (no, absent minded is not a valid excuse). I don’t see a conspiracy, just a ‘confederacy of dunces’. If you own a gun, know the laws and what the real responsibility of gun ownership means: knowing how and where to keep your gun and never, never, never leave your firearms in your car!! If you are the noisy neighbor who feels justified with your actions, you’re the village idiot and obviously not a parent. No parent would leave a package with these items on a door step. I hope they find you and charge you with theft and given the maximum.
Report Post »CharlesMartel
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:53pmWhile he/she was unloading the gun, he/she was holding a loading weapon, while committing a burglary, and you applaud that?
Suppose the owner (or a neighbor) came out of the house with another gun. The owner (or a neighbor) would have been justified in shooting, before asking whether the burglar holding a weapon was being helpful.
Good intentions don’t prevent bad things from happening.
Report Post »nobull14
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:53pmThis man should not be allowed a firer arm ? I would not leave a loaded firer arm in my car and if that’s not bad enough ?. and unlocked car. I have a concealed weapons permit , This guy is a moron . !!!!
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:04pmIs that english?
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:05pmEssen DAt Enrish?
Report Post »nobull14
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:12pmyou sound like a crazy
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:28pmNO! You sound like a moron. Write in English or don’t write at all. Know one can understand what you wrote.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:30pmfirer arm
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NOBULL
You sound like a moroon
Report Post »Amica
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:41pmNot A Crazy:
Report Post »“Know one??”
Six_Seven_and_No
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:56pmNot a crazy. Just wow.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:20amSorry NoBull, I know I came across a little harsh.
Report Post »TJexcite
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:49pmIt most likely was just his wife or other family member who knew he keep his gun in the car over the house. Or is was the neighborhood watch captain who was checking cars to make sure they are locked and found one that was not.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:55pmYep. Something ain’t right about this story. I think it is anti-gun agenda driven.
Report Post »Displacedsoutherner
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:00amThis smells, and not a good smell like smokeless powder and gun cleaning solvent.
And the loaded gun was lying on the seat next to the knife? So as we are meant to understand this story:
1) A guy breaks into someone’s car for the purpose of stealing anything of value and during his search of the vehicle he finds the above mentioned items of appreciable street value which, in a sudden paroxysm of concern for community well being, he returns with a note regarding gun safety, keeping the ammunition as a further measure to protect the community and reinforce the lesson he hopes to impart to the gun’s/knife’s/ammunition’s irresponsible owner.
Or
2) As postulated here, the above mentioned items were out in plain view in the vehicle and a concerned citizen who happened to be looking in parked cars in people’s driveways saw the items and decided to make an object lesson out of his discovery. So he illegally enters the vehicle, “confiscates” the items and, like the conscience stricken miscreant in scenario 1, decides to return all except the ammunition with a stern note about gun safety.
Each sounds about as unlikely as the other.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:43pm“It can include mobile homes which have a roof over it and are designed to be occupied by people at night…”
Look, I know Florida is know as a trailer park heaven for the poor and elderly but, ALL MOBILE HOMES IN FLORIDA DO HAVE A ROOF OVER THEM. Geez..
“The suspect could face charges of armed burglary….”
Excuse me? He might not have been “armed” when committing the burglary. He apparently was “temporarily” armed after the burglary. Another Geez…
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:55pmHe didn’t burgle anything, he just secured the weapon and moved it to the door step. The gun owner is a dumb schmo, and got lucky one of the local kids didn’t get a hold of the firearm.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:03pmHidden Lion…you have to buy the story to start with don’t you. Do you think a true gunowner who had something like this happen would be stupid enough to make it happen? What would his point be? I think the point here is a political anti-gun agenda driven issue to try and continue what they perceive to be a wave of public anti-gun sentiment.
Report Post »IvanK
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:10pmThis guy has his head crewed on wrong… If there was a lesson to be learned here is to remember to lock his vehicle! I have a CCW and due to the inherent responsibility of having one, I ALWAYS lock my vehicle! In the event I ever forgot to lock my truck, the security system automatically locks the truck after 45 seconds of inactivity. As for the perp, he/she absolutely needs to be found and charged. Even if their was no intent of theft, the perp entered a vehicle and removed a firearm. What a young child or any other interloper found the weapon on the door step and discharged it? I’m thinking this guy has a liberal neighbor who made the decision to “show him”. I wouldn’t surprise me one bit. Liberals have no problem breaking laws to prove a point. It’s inherent in their deeply narcissistic personalities.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:15pmI wrote: Do you think a true gunowner who had something like this happen would be stupid enough to make it happen?
I meant: Do you think a true gunowner who had something like this happen would be stupid enough to make it public? This story is a hoax.
Report Post »00100111
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:00amBreaking into a vehicle, even an unlocked vehicle, that is not your own is burglary. So yes, he did burgle something.
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:42pmTSA doing a door-to-door courtesy check. Warming up for the “big one”
Report Post »nmontague
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:42pmIt‘s not a burglary if you don’t have intent to take something. If they intended to do that, they wouldnt have left the note. Though I have to wonder how they knew what was in the car to begin with.
Report Post »Thisisareallylongusernameisntit
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:25amNMONTAGUE
Report Post »Hey Einstein, how would you like me to take your car for a joy ride and park it somewhere near your house when I am done? Don’t worry, I will leave a note telling you how stupid you are, so its not burglary. Besides, you should read the story before commenting. The person did steal the bullets.
mtncrusr
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:11pmWhy is the *hole digging through a car parked in a driveway? Clearly was up to no good and should be arrested for that even if not for stealing bullets.
Report Post »forthepeople
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:42pmIn his drive and the car doors shut, windows up ? This is not normal behavior from the unknown busy body ? What’s this guy going through everyones things ?
Report Post »Even for American this does not sound right ……There has to be more to this story ????
NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:06pmThank you. Someone else on here with a logical brain.
Report Post »Charles
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:48amI’m curious about whether the pistol was in plain sight by anyone walking by the car. If so leaving the pistol in the open in a parked car is a bad idea. A loaded pistol in plain sight in an unlocked car even worse. Whoever took it out and unloaded it knows how to handle guns since the typical gun fearing loon would be afraid to even touch it. On the porch in the bag without the bullets it was no longer a danger to curious kids. Whoever did that obviously should have said something to the guy instead of doing what he or she did. The guns owner sounds reasonable and instead of just being furious about someone touching his monkey he is taking it as a lesson. I wonder if its someone he knows
Report Post »Charles
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:51amAnd – the headline about the “disturbing message” ? Seriously? Whoever wrote the headline is far too easily “disturbed” to be in the news business. . It was a message that made sense even if the caper in whole was itself “stupid”.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:41pmI would take a Different Lesson away from this event: You are being closely Watched by a Freak!
Report Post »Totally Domestic
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:57pmA nosy liberal neighbor.
Report Post »Probably a woman
KarenKat
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:41pmMaybe it was his wife ( if he has one)……………..
Report Post »Aceofshades
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:05pmI was getting ready to post that myself. Wife, neighbor, friend, Someone who knew it was in the car and wanted to prove a point. Still a stupid move. On both peoples accounts.
Report Post »wellhangingchad
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:38pmHe is not going to carry a loaded gun anymore? Hopefully the criminal who tries to rob him or do him harm will have the common courtesy to let him load it before the next robbery takes place. What a maroon!
Report Post »Jonnyonwheels
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:36pmThe lesson he SHOULD’VE learned is to not LEAVE his loaded firearm in an unlocked car, not to not carry it in his car?!?!
Report Post »chips1
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:35pmIf Florida needs someone to prosecute, Obama goes there once in a while.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:35pmSounds like a rent a cop sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong,maybe Maisonneuve should have been carrying his weapon.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:44pmExactly PROG. That was dumb leaving it in the car, and makes it useless for protection if he steps away. Needs to find him a good conceal carry holster and keep the thing on his body.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:46pmHi RJJ,
Did you get the “In God We Trust” video?
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:34pmWhat an idiot.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:50pmI agree
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:58pmWho? The idiot that made it their business to go into this guy’s private property and steal his gun?
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:30amA stalker, WTH; ppl will make mistakes & it should be pointed out 2 them, but not this way, geezzz.
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