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Focus on the Family Boss Says ‘We’ve Probably Lost’ the Gay Marriage Debate

Focus on the Family Boss Says Weve Probably Lost the Gay Marriage Debate

On Friday, we reported that the majority of Americans — 53 percent — now support gay marriage. This has been corroborated and substantiated by a number of studies and polls conducted since March 2011. Now, Jim Daly, the president of the conservative Christian organization Focus on the Family, had this to say about the ongoing marriage battle:

“We’re losing on that one, especially among the 20- and 30-somethings: 65 to 70 percent of them favor same-sex marriage. I don‘t know if that’s going to change with a little more age — demographers would say probably not. We’ve probably lost that. I don’t want to be extremist here, but I think we need to start calculating where we are in the culture.”

What do you think? Have social conservatives lost the battle over same-sex marriage? Take our poll:


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  • Conservative_in_VT
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:06pm

    I would love to know what the % is that said they support gay marriage only because they didn’t want to seem or appear bigoted? I am against gay marriage, but am okay with the people voting yes or no in each individual state. (and being in Vermont… ugh, boy am I in the wrong state).

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  • civilunrestnow
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:06pm

    Here’s an idea…let God handle it instead of trying to manipulate it. If you teach your children right from wrong and bring them up in a Christian home and make them understand that GOD not MAN is the true arbiter of what is right and what is wrong then there should be no problems. God will have the last laugh.

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    • Via Dolorosa
      Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:17pm

      Half true – my two cents, anyhow.

      God expects His children to do more than sit like a bump on a log and not stand up
      to defend Him and His laws.

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:06pm

    Wow, after looking at this poll, you wonder where those idiots got their numbers. Personally, I wish they would all go back and hide in the closet. I am sick and tired of their lifestyles being rammed down out throats. I pity them.. but I don’t wanna know about their everything. Personally I would be ashamed to have anyone know I were gay, if I were gay. I especially hate it taught in the school system to young children.. nothing like messing up the minds of young children! But that is Satan’s plan!

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    • attleboro
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 9:35am

      Because I don’t personally like the poll numbers, surely they MUST be flawed. Uh huh, ok…

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 12:53pm

      Please, go to the Vine with your own kind.. I use to go to the vine, until I could no longer stand the liberal idiots there.

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 12:58pm

      I am amazed, almost 67% of the people voted that there was still hope.. so as I said before, I wonder if their polls are even truthful!

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  • Bearfoot
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:04pm

    People can do what they want, but they have to know there are those inevitable consequences that they will face. 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

    Bearfoot  
  • ofallon
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:04pm

    Jim Daly is a disgrace to Focus On The Family and it’s listeners. Where is James Dobson??? This idiot needs to go and quickly.

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    • StanO360
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 2:36pm

      I disagree, I think he is saying that we need to approach this in a way that recognizes that the culture we live in sees homosexuality through the lenses of years of school and media indoctrination. He’s not saying that we should accept homosexual marriage or stop fighting it, just that we need to change HOW we fight it.

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  • sickoftalking
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:03pm

    The dirty secret here is the majority of 30-somethings actually personally disagree with gay marriage (I don’t know about 20-somethings). They’re tired of hearing about social issues though, and what they’ve been convinced on is “it’s not a big deal”, that gays getting married won‘t affect anyone else’s lives. Allowing gays to marry, in this point of view, gets rid of the issue, so we as a country can move on to address more important problems.

    Its actually not exactly true, though. Private citizens will be forced to treat same-sex marriages the same as traditional marriages or be served with discrimination suits. This will affect a lot of private businesses (including businesses like Christian bookstores, wedding photographers), adoption agencies, and so on. There have already been successful lawsuits where its been legalized.

    So far not many people are hearing about this. I think if anything is going to drive the debate in the other direction its the fact that the younger people who are into left-wing politics are also very intolerant, extreme, and firebrands against religion. They’ll keep mounting the pressure on people who disagree, and turn into bullies. They’ll try to use the court to go after religious people. All The Blaze has to do is report on these stories.

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    • jumbles
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 12:26am

      That last paragraph sounds more like right wing bible thumpers.

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    • NoVampires
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 12:46am

      Yes you are right. There will be an inversion of standings where homosexuality and everything that goes will be in the majority and I mean the overwhelming majority. They will be emboldened. They will feel the need to payback and religious people will be the perfect object of disaffection or hate if you will. Their bullying will be permissible, encouraged, the norm of the land. Those that maintain their religious values will be persecuted and marginalized. The Bible made this crystal clear. People wonder about Christ’s second coming. We have a ways to go before evolving into a monster society. Now we have priests in the Netherland advocating pedophelia and Rome is mum. Soon the rest of Europe, America. There is no escaping the madness to come. Somebody aptly stated, it is not gay marriage or open homosexuality in the military. This is a full frontal well orchestrated assault on America. The destruction of the economy, the churches are empty, the schools are teaching mush yet the nation is too blind to see it what is happening. We are getting ever so close to imploding.

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    • sickoftalking
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 1:47am

      @Jumbles:

      I don‘t know what world you’re in, but religious people don’t have enough power in society today to be bullies. They haven’t had close to any power since the 50s. There are religious lobbies in politics, but the influence is exaggerated, the gay rights lobby is much, much power powerful. On the other hand, if you don‘t agree with gay rights don’t ever mention it in a school or university setting.

      Everyone should also be aware of the site eightmaps.com , put up to publicize the names and addresses of people in San Francisco who donated in support Prop. 8. Real people have lost their jobs over this. And just expect more of this to come.

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    • encinom
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 1:14pm

      Sorry but the Constitution trumps the bible. You are free to folow the guide lines of the bible for yourself, you are not free to impose the bible on others.

      You can not pass laws to legislate morality. While many would agree on broad aspects, much of morality is in the eye of the beholder.

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  • Uncurable wound
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:02pm

    Cowards!!!

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  • fertlmind
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:01pm

    OK,…if thats the way is is gonna be,…. how about establishing a new name for a marriage between a man and a woman? Go ahead and give gays the term “marriage” and come up with a new name for what normal people do when they mate. Let‘s find a new term thats even more dignified than ’marriage’ and restrict it only to a legal union between a man and a woman who are dedicated to each other and their childred. Then assign the death penalty to anyone convicted of bastardizing that term. Everybody wins!

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:57pm

    Jim is a great guy; I’ve had him on my show several times and he is as truthful as they come. What a great guy to know in Christ.

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:56pm

    Gay marriages today, animal/human marriages in the near future. You can’t please one group and leave out the other. It will happen.

    KickinBack  
    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 2:15pm

      No, I know this is a big disappointment to you KickinBack, but you will still not be able to marry the animal you love.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 2:19pm

      No, I realize this is a big disappointment to you KickinBack, but you will still not be able to marry the animal you love.

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  • TruthTalker
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:55pm

    Sodom, Gomorrah and America. The libs are winning (they think). The Lord our Father will decide.

     
    • illuminoddy
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 5:41am

      its eerie how those 3 words just seem to line up and compliment each other nowadays

      another piece of the puzzle

      sodom, gomorrah, babylon, america..

      practically all synonymous

      that would be unheard of even a decade ago

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  • jedi.kep
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:54pm

    Good grief Focus on the Family. Just toss in the towel already! WHERE IS THE BACKBONE TO STAND???

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  • 40 Ford Ragtop
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:52pm

    These lefties are so narrow minded, they can see through a keyhole with both eyes.

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  • Intellectual Honesty
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:51pm

    This is a wedge issue that will increasingly drive a wedge between right wing candidates- and political victories….granted it may be a slow train wreck but a train wreck nonetheless.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:47pm

    well, if it genetics like they try to claim, they will just breed themselves out of existence

    if it is a product of environment as most intelligent people think then this issue, though it effects less than 2% of the population, will still be an issue for a long time…………the squeaky wheel gets the grease for a reason

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  • jefferson1743
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:46pm

    There is no need for the government to be involved in this. There is nothing in the constitution about marriage I do not care and think that the government should stay out of this

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    • Pheeno03
      Posted on May 26, 2011 at 12:16pm

      I completely disagree. The church should not be allowed to dictate the law of the land. This country was founded on the ideas of freedom of religion and seperation of church and state. I think what everyone is finally realizing is that, its about what people want, and not what a church tells them or does not tell them to do. Jesus was pro-slavery, but we ended that.

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  • Willie Wonka
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:46pm

    It’s a shame that when it all goes to hell, they’ll be asking why.

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  • joseph Fawcett
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:46pm

    It will be better for Sodom than those in the last days. It is one of the signs of the times that God will have to put an end to this world because we are more ungodly in these days than they were in Sodom. I am not surprised that doesn’t mean we give up and accept it. If we must go to jail for speaking out against it then so be it. Because I will always speak out against it. If I must die because I speak out against it so be it, the very worst any one can do is kill this body of mine. I will continue to speak out against the whole gay agenda, abortion, and the ungodly. Until the day I die.

    http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist

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    • buckjest
      Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:11pm

      count me in your group; never give up; with GOD ALL things are possible; never doubt it, none of this is happening without HIS hand over it. We are indeed in the latter days, tragic yes, but exciting too knowing our Lord is near.

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    • Bearfoot
      Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:18pm

      Our Almighty God once destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for their immoral sins.
      Do we think God has changed? Has he become more tolerant toward brazen sin?

      Hmmm….I wonder what His Word says about all this…..

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    • jumbles
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 12:23am

      Bearfoot-God was created by man and man has changed therefore god has changed,His word is also mans creation so change it to whatever suits you.If I was you I would worry about something that really matters,like “Why do planes go faster than trains”?

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 1:15am

      If you don’t believe that God is going to destroy the world and punish the wicked, you won’t have to face the disappointment of him not deciding to do it in time for you to get to watch.

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  • GetUpOnTheWheel
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:45pm

    The problem is that government is involved in the marriage business. It’s a civil issue/contract, and it is a religious issue/contract, but should not be a government one.

    The government should be out of the marriage business altogether, then none of this would be an issue at all.

    If there was a church that would “marry” 2 gay people, then could get married there.

    States’ recognizing or not recognizing marriages, isn’t really the place of the state.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 1:11am

      Okay then, you just have to reverse hundreds of years of laws that favored marriage over other kinds of relationships by creating all kinds of legal and financial advantages to having a legal state-licensed marriage. And you have to eliminate these advantages, which probably played a part in a lot of people’s decision to get married, while convincing them that you’re defending rather than attacking marriage, even though what you’re doing affects them in tangible and practical ways, whereas expanding the legal definition of marriage to include same-sex couples wouldn’t hurt their marriage in any real way. And you have to keep convincing yourself that you were just defending rather than attacking marriage in the future as fewer and fewer people bother to get married once the pragmatic aspects of it are removed.

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    • spirited
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 2:03am

      Without being crass…,
      A friend’s lab used to (literally) hump a certain navy blue jacket that had synthetic sheep lining.
      It seemed like the most natural thing to that sweet dog;

      >and was obviously annoyed when that jacket was taken away.

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    • spirited
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 2:12am

      As with most things….(unfortunately), it boils down to money and property.
      Laws have been written because people are selfish animals first; civilized second.

      >The Ten Commandments are the perfect example

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    • maizie45
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:25am

      amen!

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    • mtncougar
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 11:37pm

      Most heartily agree, why can’t we leave this issue out of government? AND I MOST, MOST, MOST HEARTILY AGREE WITH the posting by TOMFERRARI. I am a die-hard conservative puzzled by the nonsensical ferocity with which conservatives clamor for government to intrude in this area. It does not concern the government, it does not affect us. It is about other people and it does not affect us. Gawd, I can’t stand moralistic postures insisting that we “bend the government arm” to enforce a religious precept.

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    • doodad
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:53am

      @ Chet whatever: What “legal and financial” advantages are not included in civil unions? Wait, let me answer! None! It has nothing to do with legal and financial and everything to do with gay acceptance. The morons polled that approve of gay marriage probably had no idea that civil unions exist for gays. It doesn’t help that Big Media, Big Academia and complete leftists at work spread the propaganda that gays are being discriminated against when they most certainly are not.

      It’s not about “defending marriage” with me either. Marriage is a joke anyway; a joke designed to secure financial security for women and misery for men. For me it’s about not letting one more liberal ideal sneak in the back door…pun intended. The Left needs to be put down like rabid dogs, because they are the societal equivalent of rabid dogs.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 1:27am

      Civil unions exist in some states, but the federal government doesn’t recognize them as being the same as marriages. If two people want to commit to love each other, live together, support each other, raise their children together, what’s the problem with calling it what it really is – a marriage? Because it’s against some people’s religions? So what? Tens of millions of people in this country don’t have any religion at all and they’re allowed to get married and call it a marriage. How come, nobody ever complained about straight people who get married in a courthouse stealing stealing a word that they think they own?

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  • CatholiConservative
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:45pm

    It shows where this so called conservative is – marriage is a divine institution designed to allow Hunan beings to experience small glimpses of heaven on earth & God’s mind conceived genders- man’s mind perverted marriage into nothing more that commitment, physical affection, and a tax break- the reality is so much bigger than that- there is objective, absolute truth beyond our culture, or opinion

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    • Anti.Intellectual.Counter.Clockwise
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:50am

      “Calculating the culture?” Is that how Christians now know what is right and wrong? Perhaps Mr. Jim Daly will be recalculating the culture soon to fix all that is the Ten Commandments as well?

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 9:45am

      @catholiconservative: I believe you are correct that there are moral truths beyond our laws and culture.
      HOWEVER, the Constitution is not meant to force everyone to live by what you and I believe to be moral truths. It is meant to protect the rights of everyone. You and I do NOT have the right to tell other people how to live THEIR lives, only to PURSUE HAPPINESS in our OWN LIVES.
      If we want to preserve FREEDOM and LIBERTY for ourselves, we MUST ALSO preserve it for EVERYONE else, whether we agree with them or not.
      You want to pray on the corner? Go right ahead. But, If two people want to get married, it is none of our business.

      IT DOES NOT AFFECT US.

      PERIOD.

      IF IT NEITHER BREAKS MY LEG NOR PICKS MY POCKET, WHAT BUSINESS IS IT OF MINE?

      THAT is what our founding fathers made our nation to be.

      We must stop picking and choosing which freedoms we want to preserve and which we want to PROVIDE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO GRANT RIGHTS.

      We are BORN FREE, and each and every one of us MUST have the right to live OUR OWN lives as we see fit… NOT to force others to live THEIR LIVES as WE see fit. THAT is neither LIBERTY, NOR FREEDOM.

      God bless America…

      AGAIN!

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    • nurseheidi
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:46pm

      Actually my reply is to Tom Ferrari. If you are forcing my children to read books in school that indoctrinate them to a worldview that differs from mine, then it is both picking my pocket and breaking my leg. What you do in your life is your business…but when it becomes public policy it is my business. I want all gay couples to have legal property rights, healthcare decision making rights and the right to pursue happiness. However, I do not want schools teaching from Heather has two mommies. I want the right to have those discussions at home when I know the child is emotionally ready for them. I wouldn’t have a child in public school today. I would make the sacrifice to home school or not have children.

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    • Pheeno03
      Posted on May 26, 2011 at 12:00pm

      @NURSEHEIDI

      While I can understand you wouldn’t want your child to be taught something that differs from your world views, you have to accept that for your own child’s sake it needs to happen. Children who are home-schooled and only shown one point of view are often socially inept and barely able to thrive as adults. The times they are a-changin’, and while you might not like the direction they are headed in, I think a more appropriate response would be to talk to your child beforehand and explain what your views are, and why you feel that way, rather than pretending nothing else exists beyond your (rather small-minded) view of the world.

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  • HillBillySam1
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:44pm

    Polls supposedly reflect the mindset of the people but too many factors slant the results. With today’s economy and the general anxiety over our personal and financial secutrity, the “social issues” don’t convey a lot of thought among most of the population…..some of the biggest “social sweeps” have ocurred when there has been an economic recession or depression or when our nation was in the uncertainty of a war…..take it with a grain of salt……

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    • Anti.Intellectual.Counter.Clockwise
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:44am

      Interesting how this one on gay marriage and the one on people without children being happier (if both “studies” are reliable) are coming out about the same time. They eventually converge, as gay marriage is the surefire way to counter the Bible as well as prevent procreation at the same time. Who hates God enough to want elimination of those created in His image?

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  • AnAppealToGod
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:44pm

    It’s “cool” to be gay…………..

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:43pm

    However, God scattered us all over to populate the earth. Sinful lifestyles slowdown the Christian population grown while Muslims are winning by having the fastes population grown. Obama enthustiasticlly proclaims Palestine needs more land because of its population growth.

    poverty.sucks  
  • 82dAirborne
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:39pm

    I am 100% in favor of equal treatment under the law for all LEGAL U.S. citizens. I do not agree with the “gay lifestyle.” Gay civil unions would be just fine with me. Gay Marriage is not.

    Give those couples the legal rights: visits to hospital, inheritance, insurance if the employer agrees etc…….

    Not marriage.

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:39pm

    We have lost it and so has America. Last one out, turn off the lights.

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    • vennoye
      Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:41pm

      Well, humanists have been trying to get this done for 70 years…..we live in a society where 70+% claim to be Christian, who never bother to read their Bible and think that they are going to be just fine whatever they decide to do..no big deal. Sad.

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 12:48am

      One by one most of the churches will begin to embrace anything that relieves the pressure. Just remember that when you turn away from God and his commandments he eventually remove his protection. So do you fear man more than God?

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    • Midnight Watch
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 1:20am

      James Dobson is rolling over in his grave, and he’s not even dead. Has it even been a year since he left FOTF?

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    • dizzyinthedark
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:52am

      They don’t have to believe in God or even read the Bible to know homosexuality is not right. They know it in their hearts the second they lay with their partner. They begin to hide it immediately afterward and come up with kinds of reasons why to push it in the ‘closet’.

      If homosexuality were ‘right’ then it would not be an issue with the people. They would not have to fight for it. It was never given by God, so they must ‘fight’ to have this. Most people would not have a problem with it either if they felt the same way, but they know in their hearts homosexuality is not the way.

      I have gay family members and love them same as I love myself. I know they struggle with this and that is their ‘cross’ to bear not mine. They play with fire. They are disrespecting God, in my opinion, by telling God in so many words, “I do not love you enough to have a child from my seed and blood for you.“ ”I will not honor you by bringing a child from my blood line into this world for you, God are not worthy.” To me, having a child is an offering to God. You raise this child to believe in Him to carry on love.

      Getting a little deep here. I’m going to sit in the back of the room now. Again, I apologize as I’ve kind of made it about me, unintentionally. I’m sorry Mr. Beck I tried.

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    • stogieguy7
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:54am

      You are right and I take no pleasure in saying that. Three generations of liberal schools and forty years of a radically leftist entertainment industry have successfully indoctrinated enough people that a majority seem to have no problem with Ted marrying Bill – no matter which one wears the dress.

      Despite all of the cheery comments we sometimes read here, and all of those religious comments, we’re still losing the culture little by little. Not sure what can be done about it, but it probably requires a pretty radical change to set right. Look around you the next time you are in your local grocery or department store. Or in the mall. See what “adults” are wearing and how they behave. Then tell me how we’re “winning”………

      Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but reality is pretty ugly right now. And this is not counting how all of Mexico’s slums have migrated to the United States.

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 11:52am

      We are living in an age that calls darkness light. And this darkness has spread into places we never expected it to reach. Even if the entire world proclaims something to be good, we must stand where God would have us stand. He alone knows all that is good and all that is not.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 10:46pm

      If you have ever watched a gay pride parade…you would know exactly whats wrong with it…bunch of fruitcakes if you ask me…besides the sodomy part, which is beyond GROSS!

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    • illuminoddy
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:55am

      isnt it funny how delinquent gay americans want to get married??

      i mean.. what prompted them to think that marriage was even important or meaningful?

      what is the purpose of marriage if not to procreate

      no, i dont mean the little turds you are all collecting

      just how much of a psychological disorder do you have to have to think that you need to marry the guy you play girlfriend to?

      what do they really think? thats its time to play house?

      in fact, and this is the most true and sober of all facts, gay people are pushing their marriage for the same reason they push their gayness itself, for no other reason than to spread the idea into the minds of others, to spread their pathological illness and mental incompetence, to make it an institute recognized by your parents and your country, so that they can have more dememnted and deviant sex with the ever juicy spring of freshly turned 18 year olds in america

      they are delinquent, and this is for none other than a delinquent, perverse, and sexually deviant reason

      they are calculating and destructive sociopaths and sexual predators

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    • Insanityrules
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 1:20am

      And so? The Bible states that divorcing the wife of your youth for any reason and marrying another is adultery. Yet Americans accept it as remarriage not adultery. So the homosexual thing is worse for some reason? Silly me. I thought sin was sin.

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    • jackrorabbit
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 1:26am

      When you give up, then you have lost, until then fight with every ounce in you, because every country, city, or region that has condoned this behavior has faced the wrath of God, be it Sodom, Greece(ancient) or Rome(ancient). All died, some slower than others, but none have survived.

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    • sonnetswan
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 11:28am

      Does this mean Sodom and Gomorrah deserve an apology?

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    • Nancy in NC
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:55pm

      When anything goes, everything’s gone.

      Our culture is corrupt, our government is corrupt. To pretend that the collapse of this country is not on the horizon is to live in the state of denial.

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on May 26, 2011 at 5:20am

      @DIZZYINTHEDARK

      I cannot begin to express the pain it has caused me to see such an idiotic, incoherent, and illogical sentiment expressed in the English language, which I am so fond of.

      “They know it in their hearts the second they lay with their partner.”
      How do you know that? Are you gay? Probably not, because if you were, you‘d realize that being gay doesn’t appear at all remarkable to you when you actually ARE gay. In fact–the entire cosmos does not revolve around your narrow theological conception of right and wrong; there actually are a LOT of religions and societies which have existed that haven’t thought homosexuality was a behavior noteworthy enough to merit comment on–if you’d been born and brought up in one of these societies, homosexuality wouldn’t even seem exceptional to you…or maybe you’d be a bigot anyways, who knows?

      “If homosexuality were ‘right’ then it would not be an issue with the people. They would not have to fight for it.”
      Because we NEVER have to fight for what’s morally right, every–God just gives it to us. It’s not like we had a revolutionary war to gain our independence, or liberate roughly a sixth of our population from slavery, or stop Hitler…do I have to keep doing this, or do you understand why what you said is stupid?

      And this entire critique is assuming that the nonsense Christians talk about is true–if you don’t buy it, then you have literally nothing to say about homosexuality…because there’s

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