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‘Forced Unionization’: SEIU Collects Union Dues From Disabled Kids’ Medicaid Checks

Forced Unionization: SEIU Collects Union Dues From Disabled Kids Medicaid Checks

Robert and Patricia Haynes care for their two adult children, who because of their cerebral palsy rely on others to feed and change them.

Robert and Patricia Haynes take care of their two children, who at the ages of 30 and 34 are more like children in adult bodies. That’s because they both have cerebral palsy, and rely on their parents to feed and change them — and likely will for the rest of their lives.

The Haynes family receives monthly checks from the state of Michigan through Medicaid, allowing the parents to care for their son and daughter themselves instead of institutionalizing them. But because a Michigan law classifies Robert and Patricia as “home health care workers,” they are considered public workers and therefore automatic union members — meaning the SEIU gets a $30 cut of the family’s Medicaid subsidy as union dues.

“We’re not home health care providers — we’re parents taking care of our children,” Melissa Haynes told Detroit Fox affiliate WJBK-TV:

Forced Unionization: SEIU Collects Union Dues From Disabled Kids Medicaid ChecksBut that’s not how the state of Michigan sees it. According to Michigan Capitol Confidential, it’s an example of “forced unionization” under a plan enacted five years ago.

The Washington Examiner reported:

Michigan Department of Community Health Director Olga Dazzo explained the process in to her members of her staff [sic].  “MQC3 basically runs the program for SEIU and passes the union dues from the state to the union,” she wrote in an email obtained by the Mackinac Center. Initiated in 2006 under then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich., the plan reportedly provides the SEIU with $6 million annually in union dues deducted from those Medicaid subsidies.

Robert, a retired police officer, told WJBK it’s not a matter of being pro-union or anti-union.

“It wasn’t a choice, we were just told this is what’s going to happen,” Patricia Haynes told the station.

They said even though they themselves are doing alright financially, they could certainly use the extra $30 a month to care for their kids — as other families under similar circumstances no doubt could as well.

And despite allegedly belonging to the SEIU, Robert told Michigan Capitol Confidential his family is receiving no actual benefits from the union:

“Nothing,” Haynes said. “We’re not getting anything from them. We’ve tried to contact them, and they don’t even bother to respond. I don’t even know what they could do to help. Considering the dues money we’re sending them, maybe they should come over and babysit our kids so we could have one night out.

“We take care of our kids at home,” Haynes continued. “There aren’t any working condition issues. There are no raises to negotiate. There aren’t any union issues involved. But the money keeps being taken out of our checks anyway.”

According to the Examiner, Granholm’s successor, Gov. Rick Snyder, R-Mich., has “already ended a similar scheme to provide unions with new ‘public employees’ in the area of child care.” A state bill to end the practice for all public sector unions passed the House but has stalled in the Senate.

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  • stormwatcher64
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:19pm

    Same thing in Massachusetts, except, they give you a choice of either joining the union and paying dues or not join the union and pay an “agency fee” which is a percentage of your gross pay. You CAN’T opt out if you want to keep your job.

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  • jblovesAmerica
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:18pm

    Find the home address of the State Union officials of SEIU-
    time to do a OWS at his or here home.
    Peaceful of course.
    Lets see-AK-47′s and Molotov cocktails are not allowed.
    are you listening
    wake up.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:26pm

      One of Obama’s favourite unions.
      Mr Trumka and his unions have lots of money, time and manpower to dedicate to recalling Wisconsin politicians or bussing in to any OWS riot but they just dont’ have the time to return a call to this family? And theyr’e certainly happy to take much needed tax payer money from two special needs people and their parents. Here’s two middle fingers to Mr Trumka, Mr Obama and their SEIU brownshirts.

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    • proantisocialist
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:46pm

      I wonder if an seiu member shows up at their house to take over for them while they are on vacation.or do they check on them to see if thay are getting their lunches..
      and how would the strike work?

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    • Emrys
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 8:51pm

      This is mob-style thievery pure and simple, it is un-American, and should be stopped immediately with refunds ordered forthwith. Union thugs and thieves, pure and simple.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 10:28pm

      Not to throw “cold water” on this despicable story…but Dr. Savage reported on this a couple of weeks ago and he also was the first to report on the gangs in our military, particularly on our war ships…They actually terrorize the dark ship decks at night! I sure wish we could get all of the conservative talk-show hosts together long enough to rally the listeners to ALL OF THEIR PROGRAMS and organize a huge rally on Washington…Wouldn’t we make a true force to be reckoned with? I think so! I see it as so LARGE that even the main-stream media couldn’t ignore us! All the hosts “boast” about “their” patriotism…it would certainly be nice to see them lay down their egos long enough to save our NATION! Nah…what was I thinking?…all the cities across our great country would have to be set a blaze before they would ever consider such an event..then, it will be too late!.

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    • Hobbs57
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 10:36pm

      No doubt, As the Mafia was forced into the public sector, they gained more power than they could have ever imagined. At least when the Mob was illegal, they would have whacked some of these guys like Trumka who have gained way to much power.

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    • TheE
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 11:49pm

      I love it. Get on that Michigan!

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    • apollo18
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 3:38am

      Why would this be a surprise to anyone?

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    • Cat
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:39am

      Azdebi

      Those outside that media have discussed the idea of conservative talk show hosts getting together as chums for quite some time.
      The problem is, all commentary and news media are highly competitive, brutal and ruthless toward each other.
      With 24/7/365.25 news and commentary, it’s not just their egos in the way, they’re in it for the money.

      Michigan has a serious problem and it’s only going to get worse until the productive citizens stand up to socialism and kill it. Something that will take years because socialists NEVER give up until the society they’re infiltrating is ruined, then they move on to the next pile of money.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:56am

      Isn’t this the same state that tried to force baby sitters to join a union, even home care centers, pay dues and get no benefits? I think Stossel did a report on it. If the state finds out you‘re watching someone else’s kids in your own home, they hit you for union dues. There was a joke going around that housewives should be unionized.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:58am

      @AzDebi

      My husband suggested that all the businesses get together and put out speakers and broadcast talk radio to the OWS protesters so they can address them personally (he was in particular thinking of Rush). Let them know we are on to them, and we know what’s going on there.

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    • tirepitstop
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 10:04am

      Simular thing happened to my wife… she is self employed, with a contract with the county, she was forced into a union, her fair share… I did not know they could “force” you into a union being self employed….??

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 10:42am

      Yo JZS:
      Hey “uncle J” where are you ??????????
      nothing to say, uncle J

      SEIU.. scamming money from people that is meant to take care of their handicapped children. Money that the taxpayers provide through their taxes. They then take this money and use it for there SEIU unAmerican garbage…. and these are your friends, dude…. and you tell others to wake up!

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  • bernbart
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:17pm

    another BLAZE LIE!

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    • sheerterror
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:20pm

      How is this a Blaze lie?

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    • stormwatcher64
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:20pm

      Care to explain how it is a lie?

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    • Perkins
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:22pm

      Got any proof of that big shot?

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    • dgboy
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:23pm

      Prove it is a Blaze lie.
      Back it up!!!!

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    • quicker
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:24pm

      How about you prove that statement.

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    • Kankokage
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:26pm

      Hmmm, direct, incontrovertible evidence? Check. Admittance from state officials? Check. Liberals in absolute denial? Check. Yup, must be a lie.

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    • Jomil48
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:27pm

      to Bernbart, Go vote for obama agian you marxist a– h—-

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    • heyjim55
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:32pm

      This is not a lie the same deal exists in Washington State I have friends who had money with held from them for taking care of their elderly mother. They were never told where the money was going until they personally went to the State’s Capital for answers then they were told that SEIU was getting money for union dues. Three weeks later SEIU sends them a letter stating that they were raising their dues on them and in the same letter requested a donation to support certain activist groups who were promoting union issues. The mother passed a way and so did their relaitionship with SEIU.

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    • PROTECTNEXTGEN
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:33pm

      BERNBART, I recommend asking your handlers to give you better training. Of course, it could be that you have been completely ideologically subverted to the point of no return. Hey, you could just go straight to calling me stupid. Give us a grunt, eh?

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    • 762x51
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:36pm

      Ahhh BurnFart, still towing the Marxist party line I see. Deny reality make up facts to suit your twisted reality. No problem. You jackboot union thugs are coming down hard and very soon. I have increased my supplies by an additional 10,000 rounds just to address the “Union Question”. I think I have the perfect “Final Solution” for it now.

      See you on the battlefield peewee.

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    • 4GODUSAANDISRAEL
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:37pm

      again burnbutt, use some of your time in your Mommy’s basement to get educated

      http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/15977

      Go there Burnbutt, refute that!

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    • Jomil48
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:39pm

      to Bernbart do you still live in your mom’s basement?

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    • Rickfromillinois
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:48pm

      Benrbart, another union supporting moron. All of the evidence that you need that the story is true is sitting in front of you. All of the evidence WE need that you are a moron is in your post. Unions are like your typical thugs. They don’t care what the reason is, they want YOUR money. They have absolutely no remorse about how they get it or who they get it from, they are going to take it. What makes it additionally disgusting is that they get state and Federal governments to support these greedy pigs feeding at the slop trough and squealing for more. Never trust a union, never trust a union member, and never trust a union supporter. They close their eyes to what they are doing and that the union is doing in order to get their money the greedy parasites.

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    • coindexter
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:56pm

      HEY BARNSHART…your lie is just another Oblaba lie. see how easy it is to sound like an infantile J@CK@$$

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    • desertspeaks
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:17pm

      none are so blind as he who will not see,.. notice how he cannot produce any evidence of a lie, just say it often enough until its the truth.. where have I heard that before?

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    • Rightallalong
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:26pm

      In our Orwellian country its a lie if the progressives say its a lie. Well done!

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:34pm

      See Bernbart, by posting and then not responding, you show that all who believe in BO are liars and cheats and strengthen all to get BO kicked out in 2012. You must be so proud to be a parasite on the backs of society. I laugh at you.

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    • LICENSEDTOCARRY
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:50pm

      Just go away troll. You have worn out your welcome

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    • Brad from Texas
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 8:18pm

      They don‘t know how it’s a lie. That’s just all they have is name calling. “LIAR”, “RACIST”, “SHAME”, don’t waste your time waiting for an actual, logical thought.

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    • JFaulk
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 8:45pm

      So, Berbart…. Where is your response? You acuse… Yet you don’t support your statement… Waiting… Still waiting…

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    • mr.goodvibe
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 8:47pm

      BURNTFARTS is a trangendered, hermaphrodite drag queen. Do I have any proof? No, but neither does he.

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    • hippyhater
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 9:24pm

      @sheerterror…. its a blaze lie because brenbart says so! cant you tell hes a liberal and as such he enjoys an obvious moral and intellectual superiority to the rest of us. never mind that the blaze is reposting stories from other news sources. i am sure that those sources are just fine when they report stories supporting the lefts agenda but when they don’t they must be part of some sort of evil blaze empire. brenbart is just a leftist lemming parroting the narrative soup du jour. click on his/her name and see the other post he’s made. both funny and a little sad.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 9:39pm

      BernBart can’t answer, His mommie called him for dinner. He was on another site about guns and truly thinks if you have a break-in, just call 911. Yeah, all the good that’ll do. Unless an officer in nearby, he can be drilled full of holes before help comes. People need to take a gun handling class and be prepared. We never know what might happen and I want to be able to protect my family & home. “When they outlaw guns, only OUTLAWS will have guns.” The SEIU sucks!

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    • Seede
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 9:47pm

      Hey Bernie
      You say it’s a lie– Prove what you spiel -

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    • RossPoldark
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 9:52pm

      The state unions should be ashamed of themselves, but them again they have no moral conscience!!

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    • janetfoster
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 9:55pm

      I live in Washington State, a forced unionism state, and I am the care provider for my disabled adult daughter. My daughter requires 24 hour supervision and care because of her disability. She could live in a “Group Home” or an “Adult Family Home” but I prefer to keep her at home with us for as long as possible. I am 69 years of age, and she is 40. I receive a small Medicaid Personal Care Provider check as payment for her care. If she resided in a Group Home, Medicaid would pay around $2000 for her to live there.
      The state with-holds $30.00 from each month’s check for SEIU union dues. I refuse to become a Union member, but that doesn’t matter. Union dues are deducted anyway, because it is the law in this state. Washington is NOT a right to work state. Parent care providers are treated exactly like other home care workers, and we are forced to pay union dues (deducted from our check by the state and given to SEIU) and soon we will be required by new legislation, to take continuing education classes on a yearly basis, even though we have cared for our children since birth. Go figure! This new legislation, voted in just this month, requires the state to pay for continuing education classes for all union members. Non-union members (myself and many other parent care givers) must pay for these required classes out of pocket, or JOIN the union. We pay the same dues as Union MEMBERS, they get the classes free.We must pay out of pocket. FORCED UNION MEMBERSHIP along w/ forced d

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    • db321
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 10:23pm

      BERNBART – I hope the Unions double or even triple your retirement and your pay – they promise the world but they can’t pay for it – the State can’t pay for it – you’ll never get it – you are being used like the useful idiot you are – I use to have compassion for the Union people that are in jeopardy of losing their pension because of the Thugs that run the Union – Not anymore, unions are bankrupting Union States and now they want to bankrupt the Federal government.

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    • fishoutofwaterfromsocal
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 10:48pm

      Bernbart..it’s all true. I actually have first hand experience with this stuff. The unions are out of control. Example: a group of employees paid for with our tax dollars is sought by a national union and they are required to join if 50% plus 1 of the other people in their group vote to be unionized. Take that group after a conract is tentatively agreed to…the union goes out and tells them that if they don’t vote yes they will have to strike and if you cross the lines the union can doc their pay as a fine for crossing the stike line!! Oh yeah. It’s all true..God Help Us All!

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    • Joe Schmuck
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 11:14pm

      Bernie-B

      >>—> Drive by words

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    • apollo18
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 3:40am

      This is just a “union Label” business card. (Bill is in the mail)

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    • liljoe62
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 12:58pm

      Enough of your left wing FECAL BLIZZARD! It stinks already! We dont need a lemming like you smelling the place up!

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    • kabenninger
      Posted on November 20, 2011 at 6:18pm

      forced unionism is not a lie you idiot – I’m forced to pay $400.00 a year to a union I do not want to be affiliated with – just to keep my job. I work two jobs just to survive and the money I pay to the union – filtered through to get donated to leftists politics – would sure help me pay for my winter heating bill – I might be able to keep my home to 63 degrees instead of 59.

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  • momrules
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:13pm

    I have heard horror stories about the unions all my life but this being allowed has simply floored me.
    How dare Granholm, how dare the unions……….
    I love Texas more and more, it‘s a right to work state that the unions haven’t destroyed yet.

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    • ohnomrbill
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:12pm

      What kind of horror stories have you heard about unions. With anything there is good and bad, I would think like all union dues it has to be stated that is what your paying. If these people didn’t read there pay stub, as most americans see where ever penny is going from there check I would be suprised

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    • momrules
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:43pm

      @onnomrbill……….Does it really matter what the stub says. This is wrong on every level. These are parents taking care of their kids. Do you know what level of commitment that takes? Do you know what Medicaid is for? This is just another union scam.

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    • apollo18
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 3:56am

      “Horror stories” Mr Bill? Union fire and police depts that make decisions based on seniority opinions, instead of competency, that go on to get their “union brothers” killed. I want the “brother” that has the most on the ball, the most education, the best “street-smarts”. NOT the oldest, the son, the brother, nephew, the one “sleeping with the captain” being put in critical positions that should go to the best qualified. The “rank and file” all over the country know what I’m talking about. “We‘re gonna let the 10 most junior guys go because they’re not gonna give the rest of us a 10%, across-the-board pay cut. But don’t worry, as soon as the vote is over, we’re picketing those ——-’s down at city hall”. Guess who’s laughing at you? Union “horror stories”? You think we’re stu pid, BROTHER?

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    • loriann12
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:09am

      When I got divorced and moved back to my homestate of Missouri, I worked briefly (3 years) for a union. I hated it. I paid union dues every week, and got no benefits. I had no choice other than don’t work there. I couldn’t find another job, so changing jobs was out of the question. I didn’t vote the union in, why did I have to pay union dues? I think there should be a mandatory re-vote every year, for the new employees to weigh in on whether they want the union or not. Once a place is unionized, there is seldom a chance to not be union. As for parents being charged union dues, maybe they should sue for more SSI, or whatever it’s called. If union people can go on strike to get more pay, they should too. Raise the pay by about $100 to offset the union dues…..I know, not realistic. It’s not like they can strike…what are they going to do? Not take care of their children? Put them in a home? That would be heartless and these piece o’ cr@p unions know it. They are exploiting parents.

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    • GUNNSUP
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 5:26pm

      @ 762X51, I will stand with you & will cover your 6 …..Semper!

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  • RichNGadsden
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:12pm

    I was stunned to learn this yesterday on either Beck‘s or Rush’s radio show. This is absolutely absurd. They claim that being a parent to a special needs child is reason enough to pay required dues?! All that I can say is this is the result of such a marriage between Democrat politicians and the SEIU. What sick, disgusting, and depraved idea will they come up with next? Furthermore, being in Michigan I’m almost positive that these parents have voted Democrat all of their lives and will likely continue to do so. It’s like slowly cutting your own throat.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:29pm

      Have you always been so insipid BERNBART? I’m betting you have.

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    • sheerterror
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:30pm

      What has Beck or Rush lied about? I would like to know.

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    • 4GODUSAANDISRAEL
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:44pm

      easy avengerk, Burnbutt didn’t even know that America is a Republic, not a Democracy, he’s the dullest bulb the trolls have in their box, he doesn’t understand big words like insipid, so take it easy on him

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    • Mike N
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:54pm

      @ BERNBART

      That‘s an educated reply if I’ve ever read one . . . care to school us on the benefits of our swollen government?

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:02pm

      they get more goverment money if they are concidered health care workers. so they shouldn’t take ANY money from the goverment right?

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:06pm

      Bernbart You‘re so obtuse and blinded by ideology and your only comment to this story is it’s a lie,prove your charge.

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    • AlmostaCowboy
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 4:33pm

      What! You never heard of the International Brotherhood of Parents? No? Well, we’ll have to raise your dues to inform you about it.
      They‘re lucky they don’t live in CA. They’d have to hire someone to come in to take care of their kids while the parents comply with CA mandatory break and lunch rules…..like babysitters here get.

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  • Truthmonster
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:12pm

    Al Capone and Adolph Hitler would be so proud of these thuggish monsters. Ban Unions

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  • cassandra
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:11pm

    SEIU the communist union thinks they can do anything they want, Why doesn’t Gov, Synder put a STOP to this stealing money ? Unions are corupt and a scourge to America

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  • godhatesacoward
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:10pm

    Can we all say unions = the largest ponzi scheme in modern history of our once great nation?

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    • 762x51
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:38pm

      Nope, Unions are still a smaller ponzi scheme than Socialist Security. – Sorry.

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    • godhatesacoward
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 8:38pm

      Yeah 762, I knew that would come up after my post! You are correct!

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 12:40am

      Amen. This needs to be looked into and not shoved uner the rug. I am appalled by this and so would the majority of the American people if it were well known. Especially since Obamacare urges people to take care of their own loved ones in their home. So the Unions can get more money? The repubs need to use this in their campaign ads. What about the govenor of this state, was it ever voted on by the people? I would like some more info on this and some names to go along with it.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:10pm

    They have no scruples and no shame. They, the SEIU, are just pure evil. So be it. So let‘s beat ’em!

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    • henryKnox
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:32am

      Thank God for the Tea Party. The only way Americans will survive the onslaught of central planning (communism/socialism/progressivism whichever name the are using) is through the Tea Party. We have to have organization and we need principles. The Tea Party is the tool to use to take America back. They always respond by diversion and say “from whom”, to which I say progressives/socialists/communists. The only term that they will admit to is ‘progressive’. In the 40‘s and 50’s the Soviet handlers told American Communists to tell authorities that they were not Communists, they were Progressives. There is very little difference, it is only terminology.

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  • Truthmonster
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:10pm

    The unions have their roots founded in Nazi Germany. Wait till they try to sell organs from these poor children to pay dues with. They would pick the gold from dead people’s teeth for dues. It’s extortion, it’s organized crime, it’s a thug shakedown. Unions leaders and their brown shirted jack booted thugs should be thrown in prison.

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    • momrules
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:37pm

      Your comment reminded me of something I read on World Net Dailey today.

      Cass Sunstein, Obama’s regulatory czar wants to be able to take organs without consent.

      In his book “Nudge: Improving Decisions about Health,Wealth and Happiness” he states ‘ the state owns the body parts of people who are dead or in certain hopeless conditions and it can remove their organs without asking anyone’s permission.”

      This goes along with your assertion that the unions ( the government ) will do anything for money.
      There is a lengthy article on the WND site if you are interested.

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:10pm

      @ MOM. sorry the casss sustein thing is 2 years old and has been proven false. you should read WND only for comedy, they have no credability.

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    • momrules
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:34pm

      @riverdog……………Not so fast hotshot, do a little research and you will find that he does advocate exactly what the WND article says he does. The book was written in 2009 but I can’t find anywhere that Sunstein has changed his mind.

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    • apollo18
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 4:06am

      truthmonster Your point is well-taken but the Nazi’s started in 1922. The Bolshevik Revolution happened in the Soviet Revolution in Russia/the Soviet UNION in 1917. They’re really not that different, but Lenin were first, if I’m not mistaken.

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    • 762x51
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 3:04pm

      MOMRULES – Sunstein’s organ confiscation program would be OK with me as long as we START with HIS organs. Now where are those Fava beans and chianti?

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:07pm

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh corruption at its finest.. so what is anyone doing about it??? God help us!

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  • RoAdFiXeR
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:04pm

    I‘ve had to go to meatchiken on business from what I’ve seen the best thing that could happen to lower meatchicken is if lake meatchicken and Huron flood and it gives that cesspool of a state a good flushing….

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    • mr.goodvibe
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 8:51pm

      Hey buddy, please don’t lump the UP in with the prog trolls from under da bridge eh!

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  • Impenitent
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:02pm

    the government union taking their portion of government handouts…

    I wonder how much of obamacare payments the seiu will take?

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    • onebigassmistakeamerica
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:08pm

      I was just forced into a union in Washington State (I am a state employee, unfortunately). I feel these folks’ pain.

      I tell ya’, these unions are like Nazis.

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    • ohnomrbill
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:16pm

      You are never forced into a union I work in a union shop and if you chose not to join you don’t have to. we are only required to give what are union dues would be to a charity of our choice, we still get all the benifits of being union but its not a half too situation quit laying

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    • sheerterror
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:25pm

      ohnomrbill

      Sorry but I’ve worked in union shops here in Boston. If you don‘t join the union you can’t work. Would love to know where this union of your is.

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    • onebigassmistakeamerica
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:42pm

      Again, WA is a forced union state. I went from a non-union position to a union position because some of my co-workers pulled that shady ‘card check’ deal and didn’t tell other co-workers that when they signed “for information” that they were authorizing the union to represent us.

      And if I don’t pay at least minimum dues then I lose my job. To have money go to a ‘charity of my choice’ would require a legal battle because I prefer charities like the NRA, that liberals don’t support.

      So AGAIN, unions are like Nazis.

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    • AlmostaCowboy
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 4:35pm

      @ONEBIGASSMISTAKEAMERICA – more like Stalin.

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  • ElPzee
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:01pm

    Money and Power. That’s the unions agenda. Thank god I‘m from the south where union corruption isn’t tolerated.

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  • AZGodGoldGuns
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:01pm

    I wonder how much money the ex-governor got from SEIU, how many vacations he had paid for in the name of fact-finding trips paid for by SEIU. Democrats must be the stupidest people on earth. They keep voting the same corrupt people in office over and over again. When is America going to wake up?

    http://www.conspiracyofcrisis.com

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    • Forced_Union_Worker
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 11:35am

      Our former Gov., Jennifer Granholm was a huge union supporter. She also signed a law requiring day care workers that were watching more than 6 children in they’re homes to join a union. Our new Gov. was able to get rid of that one. The only good thing I have to say about Ms. Granholm is that since she was born in Canada she will never be able to run for President.

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  • lizaz
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:58pm

    Unbelievable union greed!!!!!!!

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  • Joe Schmuck
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:56pm

    Just one of many entitlement systems that need to be reformed.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:55pm

    The SEIU is indicative of what unions have become. They are some of the best supporters of that Marxist… obama. That support alone has caused me to be more and more against them. The fact that they get money in this illegal fashion shows their crookedness and the corrupt nature of democrat-run America. Down with the SEIU. American citizens have to fight this tyranny.

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  • CatB
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:55pm

    This is EXACTLY why I left Michigan .. the unions run the state .. and they are running it into the ground .. them and the intitlement class that keeps putting in their (democrat) candidates into office and keeps them there.

    TEA!

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:54pm

    Heads up stay at home moms! Your Next!!!!

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  • Fred-Dayton
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:54pm

    Same in Ohio – SEIU finagled representing home health care workers and state agreed to take dues out of Medicaid payments.

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    • dmforman
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:08pm

      This is why we don’t need unions in our government or as government workers. Disgust. I don’t want my federal tax dollars (medicare) going to unions, but tax payers have no choice.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:20pm

      Don‘t forget that the biggest heartburn for the unions in WI was that the dues would no longer be withheld from Gov’t workers paychecks. The Gov’t employee would have to write the check themselves – which would cause the worker to wonder what that payment was really worth since it would now be very visible to them rather than hding in a payroll deduction. I dare say there would be a huge receivables problem for the unions. The thug coffers would be emptying at an alarming rate

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    • Mtroom
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 3:08am

      6 mil from medicad annually ….and “I can’t figure out any possible cuts in spending I could make.” Oh, that’s redistribution I think…Anyone vote on that?.

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  • honor007
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:53pm

    Wow!

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  • Corwin of Amber
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:53pm

    I’m not shocked by the depravity of seiu…but then, I’d never have the stones to even attempt something so crass and greedy. seiu is sickening.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:51pm

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    Good Democrates are not supposed to complain. You are getting just what you voted for…….

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:54pm

      I am sure they take them to the polls to vote too.

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on November 16, 2011 at 5:51pm

    Gross.

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