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Former Lesbian-Turned-Evangelical Christian ‘Kidnaps’ Daughter, Vanishes Amid Custody Battle

Former Lesbian Turned Evangelical Christian Kidnaps Daughter, Vanishes Amid Custody Battle

Lisa Miller (left) and Janet Jenkins (right)

MONTPELIER, Vt. (The Blaze/AP) — Lisa Miller’s path from lesbian in committed relationship to international fugitive started in 2003.

She broke up with her partner, Janet Jenkins, renounced homosexuality and became an evangelical Christian before disappearing in 2009 with the daughter she had with Jenkins.

Now, what started as a custody battle over little Isabella Miller-Jenkins has turned into a global manhunt, with indications that Mennonite pastors and other faith-based supporters may have helped hide the two in Nicaragua and are now coming to the aid of one who the FBI says helped Miller.

Former Lesbian Turned Evangelical Christian Kidnaps Daughter, Vanishes Amid Custody Battle

Eager to keep the girl away from Jenkins and what they consider a dangerous and immoral lifestyle, they liken their roles to that of underground helpers aiding runaway slaves.

“God’s Holy Law never recognizes a gay marriage,” said Pablo Yoder, a Mennonite pastor in Nicaragua, in an email message to The Associated Press. “Thus, the Nicaraguan Brotherhood felt it right and good to help Lisa not only free herself from the so called civil marriage and lesbian lifestyle, but especially to protect her nine year old daughter from being abducted and handed over to an active lesbian and a whole-hearted activist.”

As the gay marriage movement gains momentum in the U.S. with impending legal recognition of the relationships in New York state, the case is a reminder of the opposition that same-sex couples and their families can face.

The saga began in 2000, when Miller and Jenkins were joined in a civil union in Vermont. Two years later, Miller gave birth to the girl, through artificial insemination. The couple split in 2003, with Miller renouncing her homosexuality and becoming a Baptist, then a Mennonite.

Miller was originally granted custody of the girl, but her defiance of visitation schedules led courts in Vermont and Virginia to rule in favor of Jenkins, culminating in a judge’s 2009 decision to award custody to Jenkins.

After Miller and the girl failed to show for a court-ordered custody swap on Jan. 1, 2010, to hand the girl over to Jenkins, the hunt was on. A federal arrest warrant was issued for Miller, and her daughter’s name was added to the missing by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

But they were long gone: In 2009, two months before the judge ordered the custody change, Miller and the girl flew to Central America and took up residence for an unknown amount of time in Nicaragua before vanishing again.

So says the FBI, which revealed in April that it had arrested Nicaraguan missionary Timothy David “Timo” Miller and charged him with abetting an international kidnapping by helping arrange travel and lodging for the two. He is awaiting trial.

According to the FBI, Timo Miller — no relation to Lisa Miller — arranged to fly Miller and her daughter from Canada to Augusto C. Sandino International Airport in Managua.

He’d never met her until they arrived at the airport, according to Loyal Martin, a friend of Timo Miller’s.

Timo Miller has pleaded not guilty and is free on $25,000 bail, awaiting trial. His attorney, federal public defender Steven Barth, won’t discuss the case. Another lawyer for Timo Miller, Jeffrey Conrad, of Lancaster, Pa., didn’t respond to a request for comment.

“Tim believes there is a higher law than the laws of any country that all people, including himself, are accountable to,” said Martin, 40, of Philadelphia, N.Y., who attended Miller’s first court appearance.

In an April 1 affidavit outlining the charge against Timo Miller, FBI agent Dana Kaegel noted the involvement of various religious groups and people involved — in some fashion — with Miller.

At a minimum, she appears to have had the support in the Mennonite community outside the capital of Managua.

Yoder, who works the remote village of Waslala, 161 miles from Managua, told The Associated Press she celebrated her daughter’s birthday in his house last year. He wouldn’t say more.

“She came here to have a good time, and we allowed her to celebrate her daughter’s birthday in my house because of the love we have for the girl,” Pablo Yoder said.

Yoder, who is mentioned in the FBI’s affidavit over an email exchange with Timo Miller planning the party, told the AP in an interview he couldn’t remember how long she stayed. She slept at the house of another pastor, according to Yoder, who would not name that person for fear it would lead to questioning by police.

Members of the church made a pact not to reveal any details to protect Timothy David Miller.

“We want to remain silent because we do not know whether it would cause him problems,” Yoder said. “The moment may arrive when we are going to want to talk, when we deem it necessary to tell Nicaragua the true story.”

Nicaraguan police haven’t questioned Yoder and other members of his church, he said in an interview last month.

“They know we are not involved in this matter,” said Yoder, who likens the help given to Lisa Miller to aid given by Mennonites and Quakers to the aid abolitionists gave runaway slaves.

Richard Huber, of Myerstown, Pa., a friend of Timo Miller’s who agreed to assume custody of him after his first court appearance, sees Timo Miller’s actions as faith-based.

“Choosing to heed God‘s law over man’s would be an accurate way of putting it,” he said in an email message.

Miller may have gotten help from others drawn to her predicament for religious reasons.

The lawyer for Miller’s ex-partner, Janet Jenkins, told the FBI she got a call in June 2010 from someone — she won’t say who — who told her that Lisa Miller and the girl had stayed in a beach house in coastal San Juan del Sur, about 68 miles south of Managua.

The house is owned by Philip Zodhiates, the father of Liberty University law school administrative assistant Victoria Hyden, according to the FBI. Jenkins’ attorney, Sarah Star, told the FBI that the caller told her Zodhiates had asked his daughter to put out a request for supplies for Lisa Miller.

Located in Lynchburg, Va., Liberty University was founded by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell. An affiliate of the university, conservative Christian law firm Liberty Counsel, formerly represented Miller in her court case in Vermont over custody of the girl.

Law school dean Mathew Staver — who leads Liberty Counsel — has said Zodhiates isn’t affiliated with either. Watch Liberty Counsel radio host Matt Barber comment on this case, below:

“From our perspective, she just dropped off the face of the Earth. We haven‘t heard from her or from anyone who said they’ve heard from her,” Staver said of Lisa Miller.

Miller, 42, is wanted by the FBI and Interpol, which recently requested the help of Nicaraguan police in the search. U.S. Embassy officials in Nicaragua said they don’t know where she is.

“We have clues, but we do not want to reveal them so as not to hinder our investigation,” Fernando Borge, spokesman for the Nicaraguan national police, told the AP last month. “We can’t say either, at the moment, whether she is or is not in the country.”

A security guard at the hotel Royal Chateau in San Juan del Sur, Juan Garcia, told the AP last month he remembered seeing Miller and her daughter seated along the waterfront.

Back in Vermont, Jenkins waits for word on their whereabouts, a break in the case — or both.

“It is hard to understand how anyone could consider a childhood on the run better and more stable than one surrounded by family, with two parents and two sets of grandparents who can provide love and support,” Jenkins, who declined to be interviewed for this story, said in an email.

Timo Miller, meanwhile, awaits trial on the abetting count, which could send him to prison for three years. For now, he and his wife and their four children are staying in Pennsylvania, with Huber.

Supporters have rallied to Timo Miller’s his side. At his April 25 court appearance in federal court in Burlington, Vt., dozens of supporters turned out.

More than $30,000 has been raised for his legal defense fund, and donors have provided he and his family with a minivan and an apartment, according to www.timomiller.org, the Timothy Miller Family Support Network’s website.

“When Isabella was about 18 months old, Lisa Miller realized the emptiness of her lesbian lifestyle, and her mother’s instinct alerted her to the danger that lifestyle posed for her young daughter. She chose to leave that lifestyle, repented of her immoral ways, and began a new life,” according to the website.

Star calls Miller’s actions kidnapping. She doesn’t buy the idea of civil disobedience.

“My understanding is that civil disobedience is an act of defiance against a government. Janet Jenkins is not the government, she is a mother who is worried sick about her daughter.”

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:43pm

    Who will stand up for the rights of the other 90% of Americans who have the ‘rite of marriage’ being denied them? What do heterosexuals have if they no longer have the tradition of matrimony / marriage WHICH IS THE UNION OF 1 MAN and 1 WOMAN?
    Where did it go? What about the 90%?

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:52pm

      How is your rights to marry being denied? Name one heterosexual couple being denied the rite of marraige because homosexual couples can also. Your argument is more proof of the need of Beckerheads to hold on to their God and guns against the winds of change.

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    • BernieKittyCat
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:58pm

      Btw, gays and lesbians are only 1.4% of the population according to gov’t stats.

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    • True American66
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:39pm

      Monicne…..what exactly are the “winds of change”?…..would that be progressive winds?…socialist winds?…..morally corupt winds?….I’m dying to know what winds you blow with!….lol

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:37pm

      Representative Bachmann and Governor Christie and other leading Christians agree — it is OK for a lesbian to marry a gay and have a 1-man/1-woman “Marriage” – so what’s the problem?
      This woulkd be a great solution, and if they lived together with another LGTB couple it would be just like a Utah marriage arrangment!

      This math solution threatens Nobody, except those with their nose out of Joint, and those who “fear jihadis” everywhere.

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    • True American66
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:53pm

      Monicne….I see you are a typical liberal….avoid, deflect, or just use nonsensical jibberish to try to remain relevent. If you think you have fooled anyone into believing you are not also Encinom, your as crazy as the rest of the lefties.

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    • True American66
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:16pm

      By the way Monicne…..is the MO part of your screen name short for Mohammad?

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:07pm

      @True American66

      First I am not Monicne.

      Second, you know tha changes in the fact that science and reason has replaced myth and fairy tales. That we truly believe in all men being created equal, not just those that look like us and act like us. The comments here show that the tbagger movement and the fringe christian movements are the last refugee for the bigot hold outs fighting against hte advancements of the 20th century. How dare the nation take car eof its own, with Social Security or Medicare, granted equal rights to all of its citizens regardless of race, creed, gender or sexual preference.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:59pm

      Yes of course my name is NOT based on “mo hammed,” but like John McCain and Colin Powell asked, “What if it was?”
      And U can call me ENCINOM but that ain’t who I be. I am MONICNE.

      Yo Shanky Skank. (Say it till you make it)

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  • momprayn
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:40pm

    What a mess. 8-( Since I’m Christian, I’m very happy she renounced this and became one but unfortunately, as always, painful consequences happen whenever we don’t obey God – sooner or later. Now she’ll have this as a great burden to deal with all her life & the child will probably have some “questions”. The “choice” is always whether to commit the act or not. You don’t have to have sex to live. It’s not a sin just to have “abnormal sexual preferernces” – just when you choose to act on it, just as it’s not with heteros for having “normal” ones – only when they commit adultery, etc. .I mention that bc many Christians seem mixed up about all this. I also believe that some may be that way bc they simply choose to do it for “fun”/“different”/whatever but for the most part, they are born with varying degrees of a genetic defect re this – as a generational curse. I mention that bc many Christians reject that. That does not mean it’s therefore an “excuse” to do it. No – the answer is God expects all of us to come to Him with whatever problems/abnormalities we all have in some form to help us. All of us are born with some “defect”, propensities to diseases, etc. None of us are “perfect” & inherit things from our family line. There are many gays who are Christians & still have those desires but choose not to act on it with God’s help – and yes, she can be happy that way & you can show “love” to people without sexual relations.

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    • fightsocialismnow
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 6:19am

      But thats just it isn’t it? To date, we (people/geneticists/etc.) cannot prove that homosexuality is in fact genetic. All people are born with original sin, witch is correct if one believes that there is a higher power of some sort. However, the government is now legislating an immoral behavior (largely do to the typical mob-mentality “shout down” technique by liberals) because of a “born this way” declaration that they cannot even prove scientifically. God forgives all sin largely and if a woman like Lisa wants to renounce what she believes to be detrimental to her childs upbringing, than she should be allowed to do so. The judge who ruled this case was from what I’ve read an activist. The thing is, is that progressives invent rights to fit their agenda. Pretty soon we’ll have a right to chairs. Random objects… Where does it end? Who knows.

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  • SLIDELLMAN
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:39pm

    I am in full support of hiding this child until she turns 18.

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  • amuzed_right_guy
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:37pm

    Who si this Jenkins monster? She is obviously not the mother, as the real mother “abducted” her own child to protect her from the court seeking to interject a pervert into the life of this child. Tjhere is “right” and there is “wrong”, this sordid story and the use of the courts to push an atgenda is just plain “wrong”. Earlier news stories indicated the poor little girl was terrified of this Jenkins lesbian woman and wanted to have nothing to do with her following earlier court-imposed, unsupervised “sleepovers” at her house. If the state steals this little girl away from her mother and forces her into bondage with this lesbian, it will destroy her life.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:36pm

    God rules; atheists are fools. And God said so.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:53pm

      Only thing is we are a secular nations and Gods laws do not enter the court room.

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    • juneau
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:05pm

      That‘s pretty funny because I’d say, until recently (last 50 years or so?), the laws of our courts were based on Moral law, which, last I checked, was handed down by God to Moses. Just take a look at all the architecture in courtrooms. Now, “man” has intervened in the courtroom and so, many of our current laws are not based on God’s moral code. But it does not then follow that God is not in our courtrooms; we’re just seeing more influence of “man” who thinks he is God.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:26pm

      @Juneau,

      The same courthouse also have images of Hammurabi, Romans and Greeks. We are a secular nation, we do not look to the Bible for the laws on the books. Yes, Moses along with other sources including pagen are the foundations of Western law, but they do not have a direct influence on this nation’s law. Jefferson and the rest of the Founders sought to protect this Nation from becoming a theocracy that many here want.

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    • holy ghostbuster
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 7:08pm

      Hey Juneau, where is the morality in Moses and his henchmen slaughtering 3000 men women and children after he came down from getting the ten commandments and seeing them worshiping a golden calf, after god instructed him thought shall not kill? There are hundreds of other examples just like that one in the bible. You should read it.

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    • juneau
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:48pm

      @holyghostbuster, I do read the Bible, try to every day. God bless you!

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    • juneau
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:11pm

      And on that note, since you’re quoting the Bible, then you believe it? If so, whose side are you on? Isn’t that what Moses wanted to know before having 3000 killed? Perhaps you should take a moment to consider whose side you are on, and is it the wise choice?

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 12:04am

      Once again, ENCINOM perverts legal history. Thomas Jefferson did NOT intend to keep religion out of the thinking of government officials and judges. The intent of freedom of religion in the Bill of Rights was to keep GOVERNMENT out of RELIGION. The so-called wall between government and religion is actually a one-way door, keeping the federal government from dictating religious beliefs to the citizens. It does NOT prevent religious morality from being an individual influence on people who are in the government. LEARN THE CONSTITUTION!

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 1:18am

      @C. Schwehr
      You need to expand you reading list beyond the Beck approved books. It is clear you have little understanding of the law, the Constitution and the Founders. Your understanding seems to be what Beck spoon fed you.

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  • handsoffmystuff
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:28pm

    why did she need to run if this was “just” a civil union and not a ‘gay marriage’.

    BECAUSE THERE’S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GAY MARRIAGE AND CIVIL UNION EXCEPT GAY MARRIAGE DESTROYS THE SANCTITY OF ONE MAN ONE WOMAN.

    And yes it’s gonna be a great time to be a divorce attorney.

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  • cobra two
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:26pm

    What did one lesbian frog say to the other?
    Hey we do taste like chicken.

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  • Bill Wallace
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:20pm

    This is an example where change for the sake of change is NOT good.

    DId nobody think of the implications of same-sex genders would have in situations like this? Or are we just too preoccupied with the rainbows and parades along shangrilala avenue to not look at some consequences our actions might bring about?

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    • NJTMATO
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:48pm

      Definitely preoccupied with the rainbows and parades!!! The consequences of this little girl, with no father…no real father to even learn about. What are people thinking???????!!!!! Now, in Sweden they are implementing schools that are being sure to NOT teach gender affiliation….so you don’t get to be a boy or a girl! Holy cow, what is next!!!?

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  • Hawkeyefan19
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:17pm

    THe only person (or persons) that appear to be out of control would be the court that awarded custody of a child not related by blood to another adult besides her natural mother. Such is the state of the world. Can e expect less as we progress towards God’s judgement? You can’t know the day or hour of His arrival, but you CAN know the season. This is, IMHO, the season.

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  • FlatFoot
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:17pm

    Woo. Lesbian drama. Shocker.

    If a man marries a woman who has children born of another man’s sperm, that ‘step-father‘ has none to limited legal rights to that child without further adopting the child even if the natural father hadn’t been a part of the child’s life from birth. What I’d like to know is that since only one of the two women carried that baby to term, and the other woman obviously did not contribute the sperm necessary to create the child, does the other mother have some legal right to that child, other than some form of visitation, without adopting? Or, maybe she did adopt the child and that is just missing from the story? Because I don’t see how a Judge could possibly legally order full custody of a child transferred to anyone not of natural parentage absent reasons of child welfare/danger concerns and absent a pre-existing legal adoption.

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    • Akira Gomi
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:45pm

      Wtf lesbian central this is the kind of stuff that brings the wraith of God down on all of use. Global extreme weather changes are deffinatly gay or lesbian caused. How about a showing causual relationship between Gayness and weather changes? Increase in BS GAy marriage and increase in Hurricanes, tornado, EQ and Tsunamis? Lets see the correlation then legisslate them into the dust, all the wars and death on the planet will increase.. If we cont. to allow this kind of Sh**

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:07pm

      Jenkins has no blood claim to this child. Easy as common sense and DNA. Agree with you 100% this is what happens when we enter a morally bankrupt era

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    • Oldphoto678
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:09pm

      Sounds like you’re preaching collective salvation.

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  • BrownBear
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:16pm

    1) Regardless of arguments of homosexuality being a choice, the act itself is a choice. And people can choose not to engage in homosexual acts, as Miller made the choice.

    2) Miller is the birth mother.

    3) Doesn’t the Defense of Marriage Act make her “marriage” void in any state that doesn’t recognize gay marriage? If Jenkins became the second “parent” in Vermont, it could be argued in court that her adoption of the child is a derivative of a voidable contract. (?)

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:16pm

    LOL This is what you get when you decide to make a sick life choice part of the main stream! I think you will continue to see more and more of this garbage!!

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  • ofallon
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:15pm

    Lisa Miller should bring the child back to Vermont and face the music by following the law. Trust in the Lord to take care of Isabella. Stop breaking the law.

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    • handsoffmystuff
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:30pm

      The law is immoral. By your thinking, a mother should “do the right thing” and abort her child when ultrasound reveals the sex as a female… because the law in China is the law.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:32pm

      In China, one is only allowed one child. So, do you kill your second baby according to the law or do you follow God’s law?

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    • Totally Domestic
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:31pm

      Lisa Miller is doing ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT THING.
      God be with her and HER daughter. Obey God rather than man
      when Man‘s laws conflict with God’s laws.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:57pm

      Ah yes, the LAW. Did you know that the SIX MILLION JEWS MURDERED BY THE NAZI’s during WWII were all disposed of quite LEGALLY? There were LAWS in place that made their disposal quite appropriate……Did you know that it is still legal to declare someone innocent of a crime by determining the LEGALITY OF THE LAW THEY ARE CHARGED UNDER? If the law is immoral, anyone attempting to enforce the law is equally immoral….KEEP RUNNING!

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 1:16am

      @C. Schwehr
      What law is immoral? Vermont’s law that grant consenting adults in a committed relationship equality. How immoral equality must be. You are nothing more than the Christian Taleban, seeking to tunr this secular nation into a theocracy.

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  • hi
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:13pm

    The child has no biological, nor legal connection to Janet. The marriage was never consummated. If you want kids, don’t be a lesbian.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 8:21pm

      The marriage was legal and reconized under law in the State of Vermont (and I thought Beckerheads respect 10th amendment arguments).

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:12pm

    will someone please explain how the other woman is the child’s relative ??? last i checked, two women couldn’t make a baby .

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    • Kerby Clark
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:19pm

      They are each quite handsome and well dressed, right? They seem rich enough to buy at least one baby.

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  • SREGN
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:10pm

    They wanted equal marraige rights. Now may they be just as miserable as the rest of us.

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  • SREGN
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:08pm

    I have to agree. God‘s law trumps man’s law. Run, Millers, run. May God be with you.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:01pm

      God’s law has no place here. The US Constitution does not reconize the supremacy of God’s law. This is no different than if a muslim fanatic kidnapped a daughter to be raised under islamic beliefs. Both a misguided religous criminals that belong in prison.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:51pm

      ENCINOM: You are as ignorant of the Constituion as you are of law in general. The Constitution acknowledges the very basis for all law…THE GOD GIVEN RIGHTS THAT WE BASE OUR LAWS ON IN THE FIRST PLACE.
      But then, you‘re a progressive and don’t acknowledge God as giving rights. You believe incorrectly that all rights come from the government don’t you????
      Learn the Constitution, read the Federalist Papers, and try to understand why you are so ignorant of the laws….then maybe you can return here and have an intelligent conversation….See you in a few years!

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 1:13am

      @C. Schwehr

      Sorry but the Constitutin has nothing to do with God, he is not in the preamble and the only times religion is mentioned to to limit its role with in the Government. Of course a brainwashed Beckerhead, who knows nothing than what Beck approves of wouldn’t know the truth.

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  • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:06pm

    Maybe this explains the recent federal attacks on Amish and Mennonite communities under the Food Safety Act.

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  • TEARS FOR AMERICA
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:06pm

    Ignorance? I think not. Truth? Yes.

    Woman + Woman = No Offspring
    Man + Man = No Offspring
    Man + Woman = Offspring

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    • Kerby Clark
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:17pm

      I added them up, it equaled 3 men, 3 women, 1 offset.

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    • Kerby Clark
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:20pm

      Spring, I meant spring not set.

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    • EnoughBS
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:02pm

      If you don’t like gay marriage then blame straight people- they’re the ones who keep having gay babies.

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  • MuyLocoNC
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:06pm

    I couldn’t care less if the “partner” is gay, she was a parent to the child and the child most likely loves both women equally. It isn’t right to prevent them from having a relationship because one parent tries to enforce her “beliefs”. This is where I split paths with my fellow Conservatives. I’m an atheist and if you want to believe in an imaginary deity, fine, just keep it to yourselves and quit thinking it gives you some kind of supreme doctrine to use against the rest of us.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:13pm

      So if the imaginary deity does NOT give us some sort of supreme doctrine then riddle me this….where do your rights come from?

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    • bellasbrat
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:15pm

      “I couldn’t care less if the “partner” is gay, she was a parent to the child and the child most likely loves both women equally”
      *************************************************
      I doubt that she even remembers the other woman, much less “loves her equally.” She was just a baby when the women split.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:17pm

      Without God, where does your right from wrong come from, hourly changing opinions of man or whatever you “feel?” God aside, what if Lisa “feels” what she is doing is right for her child. Why are her feelings wrong and yours are right?

      So, the Muslims who flew into the World Trade Centers were right because they believed they were doing good?

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    • JUSTANOTHEROPINION
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:22pm

      Dear MUYLOCONC, it is thanks to GOD fearing people that you are enjoying all the freedoms you have including but not limited to your ability to publicise your opinions here. So if you do not believe in GOD fine, just keep it to yourself and stop trying to use it against the rest of us. Thank you.

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    • 5.45x39
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:26pm

      You don’t believe in God, you’re pro-gay marriage, you mock Christians that do believe in God by stating emphatically their God is “imaginary” and insinuating that their “beliefs” are inferior to yours. THIS is where you “SPLIT PATHS”? In what way would you consider yourself conservative? Pro-life? Not by supporting gay unions, you aren’t. Two women will never create a child together. You don’t believe in freedom of religion, the sancatity of marriage between a man and woman, God, life. So, what’s left? Maybe you own a gun?

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    • BernieKittyCat
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:27pm

      Athiests are why I am no longer an athiest.

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    • juneau
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:30pm

      1) Please do not pretend that your comment, “imaginary deity” is not offensive or patronizing. 2) I do believe I *still* have a right to talk about God nearly anywhere I want. 3) I believe a more fitting question is, “Where do your MORALS come from?” (Which then leads to basic human rights…)

      Funny how those who don’t believe in “my God,” really can‘t answer how those morals to do ’good’ are found throughout humanity and are contradictory to any natural law (survival of the fittest, etc.).

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    • Akira Gomi
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:35pm

      REPENT THE KNIGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND. it is mean’t that you could die at anytime, you are definalty a base dweller and yes we are superior.. Because most christains live the higher law that you progressive think you are doing and think some how lesbian and Gay right it a rues.. BS, you stand for murder and based out activities and would kill a Christain in a second, Oh you are so noble in your BS..Don’t want to be standing next to you when the end comes..

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    • Sound The Trumpet In Zion
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:42pm

      @5.45×39
      I couldn’t have said it better myself. It makes him look pretty ridiculous to state all of this and then claim to be a “fellow” conservative. I bet that he registered as a republican so that he can help try to get in people that are RINO’S (aka democrats is republican clothes) and he‘s been doing that for so long that he’s beginning to think that he’s a conservative. They attack our conservative beliefs but then they all try to play and pretend to be us, what does that tell everyone. They had us because they are jealous of us.

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:50pm

      @ MUYLOCONC

      my problem with you and atheists is the constant arrogance and talking down to everyone.

      All opportunity of exchanging ideas in a civil manor cease when you say “I’m an atheist and if you want to believe in an imaginary deity, fine, just keep it to yourselves and quit thinking it gives you some kind of supreme doctrine to use against the rest of us.”

      Right from the point where you start talking about our God as imaginary you’re already insulting the core of our beliefs. Then you say we think we have a “supreme doctrine to use against the rest of us.” I‘m pretty sure it’s the Atheists that use SCIENCE as some sort of ‘see see i’m right’ like some little brat. Not sure if you know this or not, but alot of Christians do not think science and God are foils. We believe God created all, INCLUDING SCIENCE. He also created all the arrogant little atheists to test our faith. :)

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:00pm

      It ‘isn’t right to gives to someone who had absolutely nothing to do with the child’s conception. It would be like an neighbor or room mate demanding visitation rights.

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    • Dudley Do-Right
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:22pm

      DIMMUBORGIR

      You’ve reminded me of a quote by G.K. Chesterton, “If there were no God, there would be no Atheists.”

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:08pm

      Hi! Muy-Loco NC!

      As an official Hot War veteran – just want u 2 know –

      In the 1970′s there were lots of atheists and Catholics and Jews and Gays and other non Christians fighting and dying for your freedom, most served with at least the valor and honor of the straight Protestants. We still had guys who had been drafted.

      Maybe now the all volunteers are all ramrod Straight Protestant Hetero males, but back then the fighting force was really diverse, included women etc., and we are all now probably getting our retirement checks no matter what we were and are!

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:41pm

      First of all, you don’t know what sort of relationship the child had with the other woman. You‘re reading a whole lot into the story that isn’t supported by fact.
      Secondly, it is the right of the real mother to protect her child as she sees fit. And she no longer sees homosexuality as a healthy experience (which it isn’t) to expose her child to.
      The other woman has no biological attachment to the girl in question END OF STORY.
      Thirdly, I don‘t think you’re a conservative….you’re a troll.

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:06pm

    @ GONZO I am not an atheist, but thanks for ASSuming.

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    • Akira Gomi
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:28pm

      Always mocking, never knowing truth, haters abound..

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    • Akira Gomi
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:29pm

      drop dead and see what you get atheist, hater of all that is good and right..

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:43pm

      Please do NOT drop dead (unless its too late) that was a rude and mean thing to read! There! (if you already died, please disregard this memo)

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:36pm

      Nope, you’re a progressive….just as bad.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:03pm

    “Miller gave birth to the girl” The girl doesn’t appear to be in danger from her mother so, stop wasting time and money on a global manhunt. Ths child is no relation to Jenkins.

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    • bellasbrat
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:12pm

      Well stated Gonzo!

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    • Kerby Clark
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:15pm

      But they were apparently “partners” so maybe there is a corporate spreadsheet to divide up.

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    • Mandors
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:24pm

      Agreed. The “couple” split when the kid was less than a year old. That a court would give this pretend x-partner any rights at all is ridiculous. The biological mother would get full custody if this was a straight couple. A non-DNA contributing lesbian has no interest in a child that she didn’t bear and knew for about ten minutes.

      This is just a classic use the kid as a weapon divorce tactic.

      Move on, the woman got over you.

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    • jackbenimble09
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:14pm

      I’m with you on this one! Well said.

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    • MCGIRV
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:15pm

      I pray for the Lords protection of Lisa Miller and her daughter Isabella from this sick evil world!

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    • Chilloften
      Posted on July 3, 2011 at 12:55pm

      That’s right. And there is no help when this happens in real marriages and divorces so why all the FBI fuss?
      Run girl run- you are very smart and doing the right thing!

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  • catfanatic1979v1
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:01pm

    I know people will protest and try to strong arm the Blaze by saying that mentioning she was a lesbian has nothing to do with anything but that isn’t the point. The point of reporting a story about an individual is the give their entire background when describing them. You can’t leave the reader with an incomplete picture. Repeatedly omitting information gives people an incomplete sense of reality when exposed to this over a lifetime.

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    • Kerby Clark
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:14pm

      I thought all the lesbian data was fantastic. It was a sort of human interest story to me because of it.

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  • Mick1140
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:00pm

    Former Lesbian????…Thought they didn’t have a choice in your Sexuality????…So there is a choice? in being Gay?…..Damn Global Warming…..

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    • Kerby Clark
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:12pm

      I heard there was a biblical checklist that you can take to be straight. You can actually pay to have specialists work the checklist on you and when you are cured they let you go, free at last.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:41pm

      They are both too HOT looking to be lesbians!

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    • SLIDELLMAN
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:42pm

      Homosexuality has always been a choice. That is one of the dirty little secrets of the sodomite movement: It is centered on a behavior that can be modified.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:50pm

      Can women be sodomites? Is there a Visual you can direct me to? Just Sayin.

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    • VanGrungy
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:20pm

      will Queers oppose Abortion if the Gay Gene is found?

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:34pm

      homosex…
      it’s a choice. if you are a male, and genetically disposed to be attracted to “male stereo types”. (i thought we were ‘gender nutral’, what hypocrits) you can CHOOSE to pick a woman that looks and acts like a man.. there are PLENTY out there. so don’t even try…
      you choose it, usually for shallow reasons like sexual activity, which you can always purchase ‘toys’. it’s a comletely selfish lifestyle.. you can never procreate with your partner, with is the only true union between couples. you can speculate all you want abou that, have a child, then come talk to me… it is complete and utter bonding on the scientific level with your spouse… nothing compares to it.
      yeah yeah… if it’s a rape child or one night stand, that is not what we are talking about, stick to the subject. we are talking about the union of marriage and the creation of life that natural couples share.

      only do some animals (usually dogs) show dominance by sticking it in the same sex, and only with the males never with females…
      also… NEVER EVER has 2 females or males, not enslaved, when gender is a factor in their species, “Paired up as life mates” within nature… how long would THAT genetic code last? 0 generations. that logic is SO flawed it’s sickening.

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    • eric6161
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:13pm

      Being born gay is like being born a party animal… you’re born that way. :)

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    • survivorseed
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 12:55am

      You seem to have a firm grasp on the subject JB Kibbs. In fact, I would go so far as to say you are probably the most informed homosexual on the site

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:58am

    1, 2, 3 here come the ignorant “Christian ” comments

     
    • Gonzo
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:04pm

      You beat us all with your ignorant atheist comment.

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    • bew0576
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:05pm

      Looking for them to be as ignorant as yours UBETHECHANGE!!! Geeze your good!!!

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    • TexasTBone
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:09pm

      gonzo: you beat me to the punch. i was going to say the same thing! haha

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    • Kerby Clark
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:10pm

      So if she was a lesbian did she become born again and was enlightened to love straight male sex? That would explqain to me why she was so compelled to get her daughter so she could be a Christian Mother, like in the scriptural bibles that are out there. I say Go Girl, straight Lady you!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:15pm

      If Miller Gave birth and the sperm came from a man what part of the child in jenkins…..zero
      On a different note if gays are born that way how can Miller change her mind and become straight.

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    • Akira Gomi
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:26pm

      What do you know about Christainity, God Hater, Human kind Hater. Anything good and praise worthy Hater! Maybe this women got a vision of hell and she was neck deep there.. Decide to REPENT!!

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:27pm

      Jenkins looks like Maddow

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    • Sound The Trumpet In Zion
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:34pm

      “she is a mother who is worried sick about her daughter.”
      If Miller was the one that had the baby, that would make Jenkins the father so how could they say that she is a mother who is worried sick about her daughter. Even the homosexuals are not able to keep their roles straight as to who is who.
      Is this Timo Miller an American? If not, how did the FBI arrest him or are they now being used to police the entire world? They have a tough enough job trying to keep things straight over here.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:39pm

      Just another Christian lunatic that has taken a book of fairy tales seriously. And the Beckerheads sit back and cheer her as she takes the law into her own hands (something that Beck today protested against).

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:42pm

      .
      Snatched that baby and was gone Lickety Split!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Jennine
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:43pm

      If this were a heterosexual couple and the woman‘s child was biologically not her husband’s, would there be a GLOBAL MANHUNT to run down this mother and daughter? No. The authorities would tell the guy, “Sorry, it’s not even your child,” and she and the kid could live down the block from him if they wanted and no one would touch them. This is a political statement to legitimize a same-sex union. Society’s trying to gobble this woman up with political correctness.

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    • ISRAELISOURFRIEND
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:45pm

      Atheists mock Christians because they say, “your hope is delusional, it’s pie in the sky”.

      They know a lot of facts about weird things, but they don’t the know real thing about anything.

      Atheism has never dreamed a dream.
      Atheism has never lifted a burden.
      Atheism has never solved a problem.
      Atheism has never healed a broken heart.
      Atheism has never brought joy to a wounded soul.

      You’re intellectual argument for everything is “I doubt that”. A moron can learn that in three seconds!

      What do you believe? What can you defend?

      Atheists spend their lives fighting a God they don’t believe in. How brain dead is that?

      Corinthians 1:21 “The world through wisdom did not know God”. Why? What does that mean? That means you can study things but never the the right things, and man may know about rocks but never know the rock of ages.

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    • John 3:16
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:46pm

      Jenkins has no blood or skin in the game, check the DNA, then check Jenkins out of the game. Jenkins is a troll, who if really loved the girl, would want her to be with her true, biological, mother. The daughter will soon learn the truth and Jenkins, the liberal troll, will be shunned by the little girl.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:00pm

      “My understanding is that civil disobedience is an act of defiance against a government. Janet Jenkins is not the government, she is a mother who is worried sick about her daughter.”
      ______________________________________________

      How does it make Isabella, JENKIN’S daughter, when she is biologically Miller’s, and the sperm donor’s, daughter? One would think it is better, emotionally and morally, for the daughter to remian with her biological, heterosexual mother, than it would be with an unrelated stranger and her homosexual lifestyle, along with unrelated stranger grandparents, by law only.

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    • booger71
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:17pm

      The way I read the story is that Miss Miller delivered the little girl and thus it has her DNA. It has no DNA from Ms Jenkins and she should not have any parental control over this little girl

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:20pm

      excellent point Jenine.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:22pm

      Former Lesbian-Turned-Evangelical Christian ‘Kidnaps’ Daughter… who actually turns out to be her son that used to be a dog that she formerly married before she found our her husband was a horse….developing….

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    • TMink
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:30pm

      She had a child with this person. The child presumably bonded with the other woman. In my mind, that means she is stuck with honoring her innocent daughter’s bond with the other woman. I understand that the lady had a change of heart, and that is wonderful for what it is, but a consequence of that earlier relationship is that their daughter bonded with her former partner. In my eyes, that relationship did not disappear after her change of heart any more than it would have if the partner was a man.

      Women are bad for divorcing the partner then all of a sudden deciding it is in the child’s best interest to keep the former partner from seeing the child. Once you have the child, that relationship is set. It must be honored if the child’s welfare is to be considered. The moral of the story is don‘t have children with people you are not willing to have in your own and the child’s life forever more. You do your due diligance on the front end. Men too.

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    • Locked
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:30pm

      It seems many people here believe that foster parents or step-parents also have no say in how their (non-biological) children are raised. If the biological mother was addicted to drugs, or abusive, or a danger to her child, and then split with her husband, would a judge automatically give custody to the train-wreck of a biological parent? No.

      This isn’t a case of “Christian fanatic is baaaaad.” This is a case of a very sick individual breaking both US and international law. Lisa Miller should be pitied for the damage she’s caused, but in the end she is a criminal. The judge’s ruling has proven true: she’s unfit to be a mother. Instead of sharing weekend custody she skips out of the country and flees to Central America? She’s no true Christian; she’s a mess.

      I hope the little girl is ok. The worst trauma will be for her.

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:40pm

      HOORAY!!!! ENCINOM is back after his rigorous, if unsuccessful, attempt to defend his hero Anthony “I‘ll Show You Mine If You’ll Show Me Yours” Weiner!!! Still waiting for your “evidence”, ENCINOM……in the meantime, I suppose it’s OK for you to go back to your Christian-hating antics…..you are such a hoot…..

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    • ILUVJESUS
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:52pm

      Kidnapping is a serious crime. She should have used all legal Means to accomplish her goals.

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    • GodHatesFigs
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:54pm

      @ISRAELISOURFRIEND
      It is way easier for a moron to just blindly accept what is told to him. How about you listen to 1 Peter 3:15 and be prepared with an answer for those doubting brain dead atheists.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:55pm

      Locked,
      A Judge also wouldn’t give the child to a non-biological parent without trying to find the childs other biological parent. But that‘s neither here nor there Miller gave birth to someone else’s child while in a relationship with Jenkin’s. Jenkin’s is neither the mother or father. Therefore she has no true claim to the child nor can she be compelled to pay child support.

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    • True American66
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:02pm

      I see Monicne is Encinom today……geez, get a life!

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:19pm

      “before disappearing in 2009 with the daughter she had with Jenkins.”
      Well how is that physically possible?

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    • planetearthsovereigncitizen
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:25pm

      State Law here automatically makes the child of a married couple the child of both unless disputed, which is resolved by paternity testing (DNA) or the production of adoption proof. Looks like lesbians now get a taste of a mother’s scorn…You asked for it!

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    • Truth Wins Every Time
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:30pm

      encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:39pm
      Just another Christian lunatic that has taken a book of fairy tales seriously. And the Beckerheads sit back and cheer her as she takes the law into her own hands (something that Beck today protested against).
      —————————————————————————————————————-
      Obviously you would do nothing to protect your child. That is if you haven’t aborted them all.
      Any mother, or father knows NO laws when it comes to protecting their child.
      I would give my life for mine. Would you?

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    • Locked
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:46pm

      @Smith

      “Jenkin’s is neither the mother or father. Therefore she has no true claim to the child nor can she be compelled to pay child support.”

      Your error is in saying “a relationship.” They had a legal civil union; both were “parents,” and biology doesn’t matter. Same as a step-parent or foster parent, having a child while in a legally binding arrangement analogous to marriage means that the other mother does indeed have rights to her child. He claim is just as true as a step-parent or foster parent.

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    • JRook
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:03pm

      Why the story does all the work here.

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    • JRook
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:04pm

      Would love to have seen your comments if she wasn’t a born again……

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    • Wayner
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:29pm

      I say WOW to ISRAELISOURFRIEND!!! Your’s is one of the best comments I have ever read in here.
      That should shut up the atheists.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:38pm

      Isn’t “Montpelier” a term from the French? meaning, Pelier Mountain? Coincidence?

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:45pm

      These two are at Least as Hot as the actresses on “THE OFFICE.” Maybe they are really models or actresses, and not Gay Lesbos. Just sayin.

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    • Lotus503
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:00pm

      She did an Ann Heche, huh?

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    • Locked
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:19pm

      @Rangerp

      “I generally do not wish ill on people, but I hope Jenkins chokes on her own tongue and dies in her sleep.”
      Wow… that’s pretty messed up. You prefer the kidnapping criminal over the legal guardian, whom you hope dies horribly. Yikes…

      “I would bet good money that there are real deal statistics out there that show what happens to the poor kids that have to grow up in filth such as this.”
      You would lose good money. Statistics show that most kids raised in homosexual relationships end up on average as normal as kids from heterosexual relationships. Both groups do better than those from divorced households. I would imagine that those from divorced households who are then kidnapped by their parents and brought to South America probably are going to do worst of all.

      ” America is going to pay a huge price for pandering to the sodomites and other assorted sickos.”
      No sickos like former-lesbians-turned-Evangelics who kidnap children and flee the country though, am I right? ;-)

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:14pm

      the fact is this. the child ALWAYS goes with the biological parent. ALWAYS. even if given up for adoption and the parent decides later they want it back. it has happened already, so don’t even try…

      also, jenkins has no genetic tie to the child. she has no claim whatsoever on this child by law.
      justice is blind and hypocritical.

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    • VanGrungy
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:19pm

      The only way to grow the numbers of the LGBT is to indoctrinate as many children as possible.. through the schools, and in more intense settings, through the home..

      This ‘manhunt’ is a vendetta against Christians because as another commenter pointed out a man in a similar position would be SOL…

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:37pm

      @ISRAELISOURFRIEND

      Truer words have never been spoken about atheism…

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    • obama-mecca-me-sick
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 6:37pm

      @EMMINEMSMOM
      Wow! For someone who hates Beck , it sounds like you pay close attention to his show. Not to mention the fact you spend every free moment you have on the Blaze. Who would do that unless they are a paid Media Matters troll? Unless you are just ,ental. Poor soul. I’ll pray for you.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 7:01pm

      I would hate to be in the position to tell a judge I honor a law Above his, but I do ! ! and always will ! !
      and I am not alone ! ! !

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    • SgtB
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 7:21pm

      WOW! The legal system won’t know what to do with this one. Generally, the mother always gets custody in divorce cases, even when the mother has no means of supporting herself or the children and is an alcoholic. They’re gonna have fun with this.

      Oh! This is the first time that I have heard of where a spouse went straight and left a relationship. HA!

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 7:36pm

      TMINK you are absolutely right been their .They think they can change a persons father like changing a job,
      and father, mother, Parent, though not all the same( IMHO) The other parents rights should be upheld !
      Theres either equal rights and protections under the law or theres not!
      THOUGH I do believe in a law above man !

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    • mvivian
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 8:42pm

      I have been praying for Lisa to take her child far, far away from Jenkins for years. Had my mother done that when we found out our dad way a homosexual, years of suffering would have not had to happen. Children of gays question their identidies, do more drugs, engage in more dangerous lifestyles and get truly lost when a parent turns their backs to God and His design for them. We would have had clearer thinking, more focused lives, less stress, less pain and a lot less confusion. Lisa is saving her daughters sanity!
      I think what she has done is heroic. She is protecting her child from perverse influences. If you look up “gay parents” on pubmed, you will see that the statistics are against homosexual parenting. Oh, but Hollywierd says otherwise. People leave the homosexual lifestyle everyday all over the world. It isn’t easy for them, but those who love God will repent and go His way. Jesus heals the sexually broken every day. With God, all things are possible. People who do not put their faith in the hands of a loving, healing, powerful Lord are the ignorant ones. Unfortunately, more and more children will be harmed and humiliated the way we were because of homosexual practices. Go ahead and attack me. I lived through it. I know what Lisa is protecting and I support her KID-SAVING despite the screwed up laws in this sick country.

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    • eric6161
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:11pm

      That is such a sweet story. I love how people find Jesus Christ, repent of their sins, and find grace in His blood. I sure wish there was a way for me to help her… sometimes I wonder how the underground railroad did all the good they did… or how Oskar Schindler did all the good he did by saving so many Jews. Thank God there are so many open-minded people who fight evil wherever they find it. God bless you Timo, Lisa, and Isabella. May God keep you away from those who wish to hurt you most… homosexuals and their enablers.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:23pm

      Funny, I was waiting for the ignorant opinions by the homosexual apologists who support the legal perversion we’re seeing here!

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 9:42am

      oh, goody, encinom is back.

      Now we can once again be blessed with his brilliant contributions to society – all the productive things he says – all the good advice – all the creative input.

      HOW did we adults manage to survive without his FLAMES?

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 4:04pm

      Locked,
      If I am married to a woman and she has another mans child she can deny me visitation(even if my name is on the birth certificate) on the grounds that I’m not a biological parent just as the courts can bar her from seeking child support from me.
      And I made no mistake in calling it a relationship as the term is an all emcompassing. boy freind girl freind,best freinds,husband and wife,or whatever you call what they had.

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    • RationalJames
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 11:28pm

      You called it, nice! :P

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