Former Marine Detained for ‘Ominous’ Facebook Posts Speaks Out for the First Time: ‘It Made Me Scared for My Country’
- Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:23pm by
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The former Marine who was detained by federal and local law enforcement over a number of controversial Facebook posts is speaking out for the first time since a judge ordered he be released from a psychiatric ward in Salem, Va. last Thursday.
Brandon Raub, 26, spoke with John Whitehead, his lead attorney and president of the Rutherford Institute, and recounted his frightening ordeal, saying he is “afraid” for his country that an American citizen can be detained without due process.
Raub was put in handcuffs and hauled away from his home in Richmond, Va. by federal and local law enforcement officials on Aug. 16 for making anti-government Facebook posts referring to “revolution” and statements that questioned the official story behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks. He was then sentenced to up to 30 days in a psychiatric facility on Aug. 20 by a judge — no trial, no arrest warrant, no charges filed.
He was held under Virginia’s “civil commitment” law that allows police to detain an individual that is extremely mentally ill and may present an imminent threat to himself or others.
Throughout the interview with Whitehead, Raub appears to be coherent and completely aware of his surroundings. On the surface, he certainly doesn’t appear to be suffering from a mental disorder. However, Whitehead recently told TheBlaze that he is seeking to have Raub evaluated by an independent psychiatrist to prove that.
The military veteran explained why he decided to serve his country as a Marine and what led to him posting the controversial remarks that resulted in his detention.
“I got out of high school in 2004 and I worked for a year, and then I looked at what was going on around the world and saw how my brothers and sisters were volunteering to go overseas and I love my country quite a bit, so I figured that I kind of had a place in that,” Raub said. “I always knew if I joined the service, it would be the Marine Corps.”
Raub served in both Iraq and Afghanistan as a combat engineer where he located improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and built field fortification systems.
“Originally, I never imagined that there would be problems to the degree we have or things going on — that are easy to find if you are told to go look for them. Very specifically, the rampant abuse of executive orders,” he explained. “It literally gives the president the ability to write his own laws.”
He went on: “What really concerned me was the length of time that we’ve had executive orders on record that will allow the federal government to seize private property, industry, even language denoting labor camps — that’s real language in real executive orders.”
Raub also addressed arguably his most controversial Facebook post, where he proclaimed, “Sharpen my axe, I’m here to sever heads.” He says it was a metaphor and lyric from a Canadian rap song.
“The truth is very powerful and it has the ability to cut, and the truth is not always nice, sometimes it can be very specific,” he said of the statement.
The Detainment
Raub took his attorney step-by-step through the morning he was taken away in a police car. He says he initially spoke to two FBI agents through his front screen door in his shorts. However, he added that there was law enforcement “stacked all up and down the road.”
“They didn’t say very much, I actually had to ask them why they were there,” Raub said.
The most disturbing part, he explained, is that police didn’t say anything about a search warrant or arrest warrant, they said they were just there to “talk” but ended up transporting him to a mental hospital.
Raub said the FBI, Secret Service and local police all showed up that day. They seemed concerned about some of his Facebook posts but weren’t specific.
“A secret service agent asked me to step outside and talk to him and out of my own free will, I went out into the street and spoke with them,” the former Marine said. He added there was one Secret Service agent leading the conversation. They spoke for 10-15 minutes about “some of the stuff going on in the government,” including the Bilderberg Group, a secret group that some believe control the policy of most major world governments. Officials recently confirmed that they had received a number of complaints about some of Raub’s “ominous” Facebook posts.
Raub and his attorney skipped over the fact that Raub is a 9/11 “truther” and did not mention it during the interview. Nonetheless, being a “truther” is not against the law and the First Amendment protects all speech, not just speech that is uncontroversial.
Following the conversation, the cops surrounded Raub and detained him.
“Did they say, ‘sir here are your Miranda rights?” Whitehead asked.
“No, they just started grabbing me.”
Raub said he was not physically or mentally assaulted by police, however, they refused to let him put on a shirt or shoes.
“I’m pretty tough, so I rolled with the punches. But it made me scared for my country that a man can be snatched out of his property without being read his rights, I think it should be very alarming to all Americans,” he said.
Raub also confirmed a recent claim made by Whitehead on Glenn Beck’s show on TheBlazeTV that one of the psychiatrists at the Salem psychiatric center threatened to “brainwash” him and force medication on him unless he followed orders.
After the terrifying incident, Raub is convinced that Americans are living in a society similar to the one found in George Orwell’s classic novel “1984.”
“If you read ‘1984’…in that society there was something called the ‘Ministry of Truth.’ Bill Clinton very recently went on record and said that he believed there should be a Ministry of Truth in this country to monitor the internet,” said Raub.
“It’s a government that I loved,” he added, saying he still “absolutely” wants truth to prevail within the federal government.
Raub reiterated that people should take “peaceful” and “non-violent” methods to educate themselves and disseminate information about what is going on in the United Sates.
Watch the entire interview via the Rutherford Institute here:
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Comments (141)
Flag-Man
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:33pmClinton wants a Ministry of Truth, I believe Clinton had a legal problem for lying to a judge..
Report Post »If we did have a Ministry of Truth the president & all of congress would be in jail.
Which might not be a bad thing.
Semper Fi
sillyfreshness
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:41pmAll compliments of Facebook-the ultimate government spying mechanism.
Report Post »SWORD_OF_THE_LORD
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:09pmNo such thing as a “Forrmer” Marine Blaze !
Have some respect.
Report Post »supermansdad
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:28pmThere is too such a thing when you are not honorably discharged. Not saying this man wasn’t just that it IS possible.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:44pmWhen the law comes to your door to talk never step outside; Cops came to my door years ago to talk and asked me to step outside, I laughed in there face and asked them if they thought I was stupid, they didn’t like the fact that I knew what they were up to.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:47amSword…Only Marines and those of us who know Marines know that.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 9:01amThis man is a nut and a moon bat. he does not represent me or Tea Party ideals.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 11:15amHe and other Marines fight so we can be free and then he has his freedom taken from him as if he is some serf living in the USSR. The Obama Federal Government is a Rouge Government that has forfeited its authority to govern us. It has become an outlaw among nations creating its own laws. Today this Rouge Government is a threat to the American people but soon it will become a threat to the World. Its our fault, we created it and its our obligation to dismantle it.
Report Post »CynNie
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:21pmBush/ cheney are the ones who signed the patriot act into being , so why would anyone vote for a republican ever again?
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:51pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llg-a8FamJg&feature=share
I am worried for our country too, look at what the RNC is doing. I have lost faith in both parties’ to much corruption on both sides….
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:51pmI am worried for our country too, look at what the RNC is doing. I have lost faith in both parties’ to much corruption on both sides….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llg-a8FamJg&feature=share
Report Post »PhineasJWhoopee
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:31pmThe Progressives are making great strides ( in goose steps ) of destroying all rights.
Report Post »acidovorax
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:26pmThis is not a new occurance, nor a direct result of “progressives”. The State has used involuntary confinement against individuals for decades.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:41pmTry centuries if not a millenia by now. BTW, if you haven’t seen Changeling, it is similar to what happened to this Marine, except with Angelina Jolie.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 5:04am@ SgtB
I saw it and was shocked by it, as it is a true story.
I thought that it was a thing of the past, as I’m sure other people did.
Silly us…
Report Post »ccrabill
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:31pmSo tired of Beck-ites slamming ‘truthers’. When you people can explain what happened to World Trade Center Building 7 I’ll be ALL ears!
Report Post »db321
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:48pmHey CC – I’ll explain to you what happen to the Trade Center Towers. Big Jets piloted my Muslim extremest flew into them and they fell down – killing nearly 3000 people.
If you think for one moment that 911 is a conspiracy, then the biggest mystery of all is that not one truther was involved with the planning of 911 or the so called truth would be out already. How did the planners keep truther’s out – how did they know truther’s were going to be truthers. Go smoke some more pot and think about that.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:23pmWe’ve got our hands full enough of facts about whats really happening to this country. Even if the government had a hand in 911, whats the diff now? Focus on the mission at hand! Getting the current occupant of the WH out of it and electing a WE the People president.
Maybe that aint Romney, but its a far cry from the socialist we have there now. Its a stepping stone! If the government is somehow later and factually found to be implicated in a conspiracy to carry out that fateful day then we’ll only know one thing, they were right all along which will still change nothing. We’ve still along way to go at repairing the damage done to a nation by DL. It will take two terms and another Conservative administration to get past the mess we are in if that is even possible which at this point I do not believe it is.
Anyone governing today knows the country is being propped up at all four corners with match sticks. We havn’t much longer as the debt piles up and the whole thing comes down. God help us.
Report Post »supermansdad
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:27pmOnce again, Chief is dang accurate in his response.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:58pm@DB
Report Post »look into WTC 7 and then report back
SgtB
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:39pmDB321, The building the other man is speaking of was NOT hit by a plane, yet it caught fire and then subsequently fell in on itself, similar to the Twin Towers. Keep in mind, building 7 was not a highrise and none of the surrounding buildings were on fire.
Now, that said, I’m not sure what to make of the 9/11 bombings. But I do know what to think of the incidents at Ruby Ridge, Waco, the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, and several other cases. In my opinion, all of these were caused and exacerbated by our federal government. Oh, and just so you know, I went to school with now grown men and women whose mothers and fathers were inside the Murrah building at the time of the blast, so you can trust (as much as you can trust a person over the web) me when I say that I do not take that accusation lightly or without consideration of the facts.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:05amPopular Mechanics explained that years ago. They brought in experts from all around the world to investigate these truther claims and debunked every one with cold, hard facts. You, like the rest of these truthers, have a problem dealing with the truth. You’re not interested in the truth.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:22am@sgbt
You may know people associated with that event but it doesn’t make your accusation any less stupid. That building had be targeted by white supremacist groups before. It was a target. Targeted by a bunch of idiots (Timothy McVeigh & Terry NIchols and friends) McVeigh said they did it in protest of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If that’s your justification for “ caused and exacerbated by our federal government” then any of us can blow something up.
Report Post »bekhiet
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 4:07amDid you happen to see the Jesse Ventura episode about 9/11 on conspiracy theory? You can still see it online. It’s interesting.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 5:08amDebunked?…lol…No way. 9/11 was an inside job…that is a fact. Study for yourselves.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:13am@ rise
I offered a source and a very good one at that. All you did was bump your gums.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 10:33am@Gray….Popular Mechanics didn’t debunk anything.
Report Post »DSVet
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:07amHey db, you still didn’t answer the question. What happened to wtc building 7 that was NOT hit by the planes nor debris from tower 1 and 2? No answer? Ya I thought so because you cant explain it.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:32pmWTC 7‘s drone didn’t make it there as planned.
Report Post »gsplgtr
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:04pmI live in Chesterfield county, VA . If someone is a “danger to the public or themselves”(psychiatric), the police are allowed to pick them up on what is called a “green warrant”. chesterfield PD knew this and still proceeded to help the feds. That scares me to no end.
Report Post »RichmondMomforFreedom
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:14pm@GS: I’m in Richmond as well. This is incredibly disgusting to digest!
Report Post »hokiecpa
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:34pmAlso in Chesterfield County. This scares the crap out of me.
Report Post »supermansdad
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:32pmIn most states it’s called an EOD: emergency order of detention. 100% legal provided certain criterea are met. Making irrational threats against others, yourself or a delusion inspired threat all count. I don‘t know what the doctor said in approving the EOD but as long as the i’s are dotted and t’s are crossed it is legit.
Report Post »WindyDualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:41pmImagine the response Henrico would have fielded- huge numbers, armored vehicles, helos over head. RPD would have laughed and drove the entourage through Gilpin Court for kicks. Pretty cool times to be alive in; you can thug and sell drugs, just don’t talk liberty or freedom of thought and speach on “social” media. We are all now on a central VA watch list. Weeeee.
Report Post »acidovorax
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:29pmWINDY wrote: “Pretty cool times to be alive in; you can thug and sell drugs, just don’t talk liberty or freedom of thought and speach on “social” media.”
If you take a minute to Google it, you will find that if you sell drugs, the police will often come to your apartment, bust down the wrong door, shoot the family dog and shoot or injure the innocent tenents inside. This guy was lucky.
Report Post »ThoreauHD
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:29amIt‘s too bad Obama doesn’t live in Chesterfield County.
Report Post »WindyDualism
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:32amYeh, sure acid.
Report Post »Richmond area still has open air drug markets, the cops actually hide on major hood holidays so as to not endanger themselves, but yeah- I really should see what life is like in google ville. Thanks again for the stellar insight.
ITHINKTHEREFORENOTLIB
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:22pm@Windy: That’s pretty funny. Albeit, true…
Report Post »Economist
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:35pmThey are targeting veterans that are liberty minded. Brandan Raub advocates buying silver to end the FIAT money monopoly of the central banks. This was a warning shot to all the Liberty minded individuals. They certainly don’t like young veterans like Brandon who “CAN” fight for their liberties to be influential. BIG SIS has already put out “minders” to watch out for returning vets that are upset with the “administration”
FOLKS this is scary stuff!
Report Post »762x51
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:49pmI assume by BIG SIS you mean Medusa Napolitano.
Report Post »Amarilloan
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:14pmConcerned for the kind of thinking which includes “911 truther” speech. However, how he was treated is not allowed by our Constitution and ANYONE who tries to use that kind of tactic on ANY citizen needs to be put before a firing squad for TREASON.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:18pmObama is trying to keep this a big secret – which is why you haven’t read about this – but he also had four other soldiers arrested, supposedly because they killed some people and wanted to overthrow the government. Yeah, sure.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/28/justice/georgia-soldiers-plot/index.html
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:04pmJZS, You are about a day late and a dollar short. Did some research on this ‘gang’ yesterday and I get the idea that the members have had some sort of conversion. I’m leaning towards Islamic, but not sure yet. Right now only four have been arrested and arraigned, but the gang contains more members, and apparently some are in the state of Washington. Where they want to poison a water supply and attempt to destroy the apple crop. Not exactly Tea Party people right? Although you probably think so. Doesn’t even sound like the OWS crowd to me. There is defiantly something else going on with this bunch.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:35pmIf they don’t like what you say, they come pick you up and and you disappear. That is how tyrannies always begin. First one at a time, then in groups. Then suddenly there are so many they have to have concentration camps(Fema camps) Nice to see the police are so agreeable.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:19pmRJ, I gotta admit, you can spin conspiracy theories with the best of them. So you did some research? Care to divulge the source of your information that this gang have converted to Islam? Are you protecting your sources and keeping that information, unknown outside the right wing paranoia machine, to yourself? Do you have super secret information you can’t, at present, divulge? Information unknown to the FBI? You ARE good!
Sure, all right wing militia groups who have fantasies of overthrowing the government by murder have converted to Islam. Timothy McVeigh was a Muslim, as are all the white guys committing or planning to commit mass carnage. Sure RJ! Ya got that right!
Please keep me up to date on your research. I don’t want to be a dollar short and a day late. I know you have privileged information that you have to keep secret as it ferments in your active, intelligent, squirming brain.
If there is anything you are able to divulge you can find me over here – in the real world.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:00am@Economist
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:35pm
They are targeting veterans that are liberty minded. Brandan Raub advocates buying silver to end the FIAT money monopoly of the central banks. This was a warning shot to all the Liberty minded individuals. They certainly don’t like young veterans like Brandon who “CAN” fight for their liberties to be influential. BIG SIS has already put out “minders” to watch out for returning vets that are upset with the “administration”
FOLKS this is scary stuff
Report Post »****
If you had picked up the link on Drudge yesterday their story pointed out (as did Pat & Stu on air I think) that big sis is working to put as many returning vets as possible on drugs for PTSD promising all kinds of benefits available if they’ll apply, then they find out they lose their 2nd Amendment rights as soon as they admit to any kind of psychological or psychiatric problem.
Bill Rowland
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:10amI am not a 911 truther but am a retired US Army MSG and am scared of the current administration and its trampling on our rights. What is the child in the White House loses – he won’t be able to accept that and will try anything to stay in power including a declaration of Martial Law. That allows him to ignore normal procedures, to lock people up without charges or warrants, just because they disagree with him. I sincerely believe that he and Valerie Jarrett have p0lans in place to do exactly that.
If this occurs it will foment a revolution, one that we don’t want but will be forced to deal with. I would hope to be part of that revolution. Remember I swore to defend the constitution against ALL enemies foreign and domestic.
Watch the other hand.
OMG Nov 6, 2012
Report Post »Trollkiller68
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:53pmHonest people that love God and the truth have nothing to fear. The Liberal Communist house of cards built on lies is beginning to fall to the ground. The new administration will change this climate of fear to one of true hope and change.
Report Post »Monica2
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:33pmSounds just like the Iranian guards, amongst a people generally corrupted liberal cannot exist and it appears police officers are now political agents for Obama. Gee that worked out so well in Germany.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:21pmAnother reason to never let them in without a warrant (unless you called them of course). Let a judge first decide if they want to allow it to happen. It may, but you have at least inconvenienced them and you have a judge on the list of people to sue. Never without a warrant though, I support the police but if they are not there because you called then they are not there as your friend. Talk to me through the door or window unless you have a warrant for arrest or search.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:29pmYou think those guys really cared about a warrant? Nice of your local Five-Oh to step up there and do what’s right eh? Gotta protect those pensions boys.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:39pmOne of those CIA agents, the one that looked like Puffy, looked like he just got back from Columbia.
Report Post »Tex_Rabbit
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:03pmDo not ever step out side your house or invite them in. That is how the get you with out a warrant.
Report Post »scrudge
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:19pmAh Yes… get use to it comrad… we are slowley becoming a socolist country….
Report Post »Goldline_scam
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 11:10amYeah. Damn socolists…
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:10pmWow people have to be detained to be scared for their country? Huh, I was scared (I mean not really scared, but more like a ‘Here we go again’ type thought) when I was old enough to behold my Social Security number.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:30pmCan’t they just barcode that on you know in case you lose the card?
Report Post »PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:32pmWhy stop there? People lose their id’s, fingerprints, resumes, time sheets, credit cards, gps location, car keys, house keys, work keys, refridgerator keys, grocery rations, health rations, health records, birth certificate (Obama exempt of course), dental records, computer keys, internet passwords, phone numbers… I could go on and on….
Report Post »Bobert
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:04pmThe biggest concern to me was that, I believe, Mr. Raub mentioned (or his attorney mentioned) that the particular facebook posts that someone found “objectionable” were actually messages (not post) to just his brother and sister-in-law – and not found on his general facebook page (which means that some agency was monitoring these “private” conversations). Now – it’s extremely foolish to believe that you can communicate anything electronically without the NSA/CIA/DOJ/FBI/DHS, etc. snooping around and monitoring it – but could someone at The Blaze check into this to see if it is true that these were no message were private and not published on his page that everyone (or everyone he has selected as a friend) could see. I would also like to see his attorney issue a Freedom of Information Request requiring the government to disclose who was monitoring his Facebook messages.
Report Post »bikerdogred1
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:01pmFight for your country and be sold out by the democrats,the party of the people,the communist people,are the people dumb enough to believe any different.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:13pmYou’re a fool if you think this is just the Democrats responsible for this. Romney, in a debate, said he supported it. Most of the Republicans voted in favor of it. Then they voted against RP’s bill that took out the two paragraphs that removed indefinite detention from the 2012 defense bill. And the Republican house could have defunded Obama’s ability to enforce anything if they had any balls or actually wanted to keep the tyrant in check. No sir, we were bipartisanly screwed on this one.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:17pmHi Justangry,
I’m watching the RNC (live), they‘re counting off the delegate votes and I’m a bit miffed that the sign for tallying the votes only has “Romney” and “Others” listed. I think the sign should have everyone’s name listed.
I did get to see Dr. Paul there.
Report Post »Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:48pmBig Brother is watching you. Be careful what you think, say, and do.
That is not the country that swore to uphold and defend when I joined the military, like three generations of my family did before me.
If Obama wins in Nov, liberty may well be at an end.
Report Post »RichmondMomforFreedom
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:19pm@ JustAngry: I agree with you. This is not a partisan issue. Unfortunately, Romney probably will not even come close to settling this subject. I wish it were not so. We have too many progressives out there representing us. I didn’t know what the “Patriot Act” was back in the day- and thought, “well, maybe this is an okay idea.” Horrifically disillusioned as to the right I was surrendering. Unbelievable. I’m still voting for Romney this fall, even if he is somewhat of a Moderate. I hope he is better at putting our people back to work. i wonder if everyone on the blaze will be dissecting him the entire time he is President like we do Obama? I sure hope so. It’s like GB suggests, “Don’t trust ANYONE.” I‘ll definitely be watching Romney and hope he doesn’t disappoint me to many times over.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:49pmHey Monk, I didn’t realize you were there. Tell me, what are they thinking? Are they trying to lose? You look at the vote totals and wonder why they went to so much trouble to undermind the state conventions. Now, what they’re doing with the rule changes, it‘s so obvious what they’re trying to accomplish. I heard the Paul delegates just stormed out of the convention after being dissed.
@Richmond, I wish I convince you to take a stand with many of us and hope for a miracle at a third party candidate taking it, but I understand. We all got to do what we think is best and hope for the best. Perhaps something will change between now and Nov. and folks will really see what’s going on with the parties and unite under the Constitution. I personally think they’re on the same team only pretending they have different philosophies. Anyway, the liberty movement will be here keeping an eye out on whoever takes the WH. It‘s not like we’re shy about pointing out how corrupt these pig politicians are.
Report Post »forthepeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:31pmBiker Dog Red One : Both side of this government has overstepped there bounds for years now ,its time to say D. None of the Above – Start Over !
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:43amHi Justangry,
Yea, I’m there, it’s just down the street from me. If you remember, I asked both you and Soybom315 if I could buy either or both of you breakfast or lunch. I really wanted to meet both of you. The RNC is going rather smoothly, Police everywhere. So much so that the Black Bloc and others are too afraid to cause trouble. But, two more days to go. You’d be surprised what nice clothes and a nice tie can do to get into the RNC. Not to mention a nice haircut. I can just about go anywhere…. as the Police are watching the hoodlums.
The basic overall theme of the Republicans is OK and it’s a shame what they did to Dr. Paul and his delegates. I didn’t see them walk out as I was pushed back by the security guards. It was a tense moment or two and the security is intense.
Wishing you and yours the best. : )
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:43am@Monk, Stay safe man. Even though the anarchists turned out to be a nothing of consequence, I’d still be concerned someone would be looking for a fight with the large contingent of security.
Report Post »PatriotK
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:57pmThis is a stunningly shocking story. I hope that everyone who comments on this story will also contact you Legislators (both State and Federal) and ask for a Congressional investigation (send one to Darrell Issa, since he’s head of the government reform and oversight committee – plus the F&F investigation).
Without “Due Process” we are not free. There are two situations that I’m aware of where Due Process goes out the window – Civil Commitment like used above and Child Protective Services (I’ve seen dozens of horror stories the past few years of children being snatched from their parents, just on the whim of someone who ‘reported’ them. Well, since the gov is busy encouraging Snitching, you’re going to see more of this.
There was another story yesterday of a man who was just cleaning his guns on his back deck, a nosy neighbor called 911 and he had swarms of Swat. Took him in for evaluation, recorded all of his guns and then released him. He was a Veteran as well.
We must insist with all our Legislators that there are no situations in America where they can waive Due Process!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:08pmYeah, I already contacted mine about the NDAA. They didn’t bother answering me. I believe they all know most Americans don’t want it. Most don‘t even know they suspended our rights to due process because it wasn’t reported by the media. The Paul supporters have been screaming about it months in advance, but we’re “kooky” so no one listened.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:10pmdue process ““due”“ to the many uninformed people who voted for obama we as a country are now in the ”’ process”‘ of seeing our freedoms being flushed down the toilet.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:10pmsnitches get stiches. Oh wait that only applies to people that are snitching on things I agree with.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:28pmY’all know you have no rights currently right? Well, let’s just say “limited rights”.
The Insurrection Act of 1807 (10 U.S.C. § 331 – 10 U.S.C. § 335.) was updated in 1976 with the National Emergencies Act ( 50 U.S.C. § 1601-1651). This act allows the POTUS to declare a National State of Emergency. In this state of national emergency you do not have the right of Habeas Corpus nor do you have full 5th amendment rights.
We have been at a declared state of emergency since 1995. Owebama has continued this and notified congress.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/09/09/message-president-regarding-continuation-national-emergency-respect-cert
Under the National Emergencies Act, Congress has the power to reverse the POTUS. Of course they do not…heck they don’t even vote on the matter. It is this state of emergency that can give way to things like NDAA.
Congrats sheep. Welcome to your Bi-Partisan police state.
Wanna guess if FOX, or Rush, or Hannity or Beck will ask Romney if he will cease the National State of Emergency? C’mon…I’ll even give you odds.
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:54pmOur fathers fought Communism -
WE on the other hand, elect one to be President
Report Post »762x51
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:03pmI must be one of your fathers then. I was taught to kill communists when I was 18, not vote for them. I did not vote for, nor will I acknowledge Comrade Chairman as the President of the United States. I will not obey his edicts or the communist agenda his supporters have forced through Congress in the dark of night. Barack Obama is a liar, a thief and a cheat, he is not my President and he should not be yours either.
I don’t know what this kid posted on Facebook nor do I care. What I can tell you is he must be right otherwise they would not have reacted like this. If it walks like a communist, talks like a communist and acts like a communist, it IS a communist, period. This is how all totalitarian regimes act, people who oppose them just disappear in the night without a trace. Those who are prepared also disappear in the night but leave a stack of bodies where they fought for their freedom. I do not intend to die in some commie detention cell.
Report Post »face.chewer
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:52pmHe resembles James Holmes doesn’t he. His crazy eyes and hand gestures in the video seem ominous.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:03pmOh good grief. Get a life.
Report Post »RichmondMomforFreedom
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:23pm@Roth: Thank you, this guy must be on Bath Salts as his Username suggests. Ick!
Report Post »kalayaan
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:01pmHey Face.Chewer…you sound more dangerous that this Marine…you should see your psychiatrist soon…
Report Post »frogg
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:50pmWe somply must get back our country!!!!!!!!!!!! This is some SICK S#@$!!!!!!!!!!! This is the kind of thing that the Gestapo and KGB did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where were we when they took our Nation away from us!!!!!! Vote the BUMS out this November! Please! Pretty Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Check out http://www.rescueourconstitution.com/
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:49pmMuslim outreach = Giving the the Fort Hood Terrorist Hassan the latitude and freedom to kill 15.
Report Post »Obozo /Ronald Eric Holder McDonald = Muslim Outreach. How dare they destroy our country, said Harry Reid’s little friend who whispers secrets in his ear.
762x51
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:53pmI thought Harry Reids “little Friend” was in his pants.
Report Post »korbin
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:44pmoathkeepers.org It will not cost you a penny to take a look. being an oath keeper is simple, obey your oath. encourage others in law enforcement and military to reaffirm their oath they took. If the folks that detained this marine illegally remembered their oath to UPHOLD and DEFEND the US Constitution they would have stood down and refused to follow an illegal order. PERIOD, they are as bad s the ones authorizing executive orders such as NDAA, patriot act and so on. This guy is not alone by any means, there are many Good Americans who work hard, have families, contribute to society in a positive way. It is sad they ignore illegal’s flowing into our country and yet put tons of resources into tracking, following and harassing our Military men and woman or any American for that matter. STAND up people…..
Report Post »RedNeckMormon
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:18pmKorbin, the only question I have about oathkeepers ( i agree with the premise completely) but doesn;t joining an organization like oathkeepers basically sign you up on a list of the first groups that government goon will try to take down ???
Report Post »Just saying….
dennisS
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:05pm@redneckmormon–Don’t worry, from your handle there, redneck..Mormon, either one puts you in the cross-hairs of Big Sis! She (he?) doesn’t like either one. So you are already on the list for a trip to the re-education camp. Better pack up!
Report Post »sizzlinsexybeckster
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:42pmI wouldn’t be surprised if our government abducted every American and transported them into a concentration camp. I’m glad this man came forward and I salute him. I believe we are currently in WWIII, I’m sure hundreds of thousands have probably already been abducted this year… or maybe more. I believe it officially started the killings when their creepy mental leader Piven announced “It is time.” (meaning it is time again for the “racial cleansing” they did back in the 1940′s when they abducted and murdered millions of innocent people – I believe it is already here and has been going unnoticed…..) Probably taking people who have no family or friends who are have listed themselves on the Facebook. I’m glad this man is here and letting us know.
Report Post »SteamedinMichigan
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:38pmScary…..terrifying
And UnAmerican!!!!
God Bless Raub
Report Post »wtd
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:43pmIndeed. Raub impressed with his demeaner and intellect – not at all what I expected, given previous reports.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:38pmWe need to take the nation back and disband the massive and oppressive system that the progressives have installed. Our land is to be a Republic, not a Communist dictatorship.
Report Post »Justus39
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:37pmThis is Obama’s government whether you wish to believe it or not. They lock this young man up and did not lift a finger until Hussein killed a 15 people at Fort Hood. IF Americans are to afraid to take a stand the Obama will be just as Hugo.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:09pmAmerican Government has done this sort of thing since it’s conception. I believe now with the media it probably happens less. People labeled as insane used to be housed in jails in the 1700′s because they felt that mental illness was due to sins. The government even cut out peices of peoples brains and forced experimental drugs onto people. It wasn‘t until the 1930’s that people were treated more humanely.
Report Post »galicant wiseword
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:59pmfreedommover – Until a few weeks ago I would have agreed that the 30′s was the upward change in mental health but then I looked up the word vivisection and had my mind blown for several hours as I learned about the evil man is capable of. I finally investigated MKULTRA which I had dismissed until then as a wacky theory word. What I spent the next days finding out is that our Government has been and IS still conducting human experimentation. The American, Canadian and world head of the American Psychiatric association killed folks and ruined the life’s of others in support of evil ends, and THEN was promoted to this position. My entire college career has been in psychology and therapy, do you think I give a crap about regulation from this industry anymore? Did you know that part of our WWII ending treaties with Japan included all the gruesome Unit 731 research they had conducted. The atrocities we know about probably pale in comparison to the ones we have not and may never uncover. I would encourage all readers to familiarize themselves with the reality of our out of control government and what they are capable of biased on the logical comparison of what they have already gotten away with. Take a half of one hour and google it my friends, nasty stuff.
Report Post »Justus39
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:32pmI am an old man but you young folks had better stand with this man while you can. You have been left a mess and a pile of debt.It does not appear that us older folks are willing to stand with you so I suppose we have become to selfish. I just hope God will forgive us and bless you.
Report Post »Brad Wesselmann
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:01pmHe will, on both counts…keep the faith my friend. :-)
Report Post »WindyDualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:01pmWhat Brad said, ditto.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:32pmthis going to happen more and more if obama and the democommies are reelected ,they want complete control and will use such laws to shut everyone who does not agree with them down, this is what communist do and as of right now,we are still the ““ United States of America ”” not united states of communism, not yet,but with laws like this and more that are being made up and with the democommies trying to turn America into a communist country, it want be long. god bless this marine for defending our great nation and for sacrificing himself for the greater good we need more like him, because if we had to depend on obama and the democommies to protect this country, hell we would be screwed from the start because the cowards would run and hide.
Report Post »sizzlinsexybeckster
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:49pmEven if Obama is not re-elected, before the new president is even sworn into office – he will make sure that never happens…., he will create some chaos to use Martial Law, which keeps him in office permanently…….. d’oh! We are all going to die! Ugh!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:16pmThe republicans were more in favor the legislation percentagewise than the democrats. Senators McCain and Graham wrote it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD0GthpIgQw
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:30pmThis type of stuff will end when Americans decide to start shooting politicians in the head on site regardless of sex or political stance, just kill them all and start fresh. The new ones will remember, for awhile, what happened to their predecessors.
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:49pmreally? thats what you think? come on…..
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:01pmShould I put it more eloquently for your PC ears LANDON?
God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion.[1] The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.—–Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:06pmUm…that’s just murder. Wow.
How about we follow the constitution and re-establish the republic. We lawfully arrest those that have infringed upon the constitution and the rights of people. We give them fair and open trials as outlined in the constitution. If found guilty we punish them is a just manner.
Seems a whole lot better than just shooting people in the face.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:14pmYa Roth lets have Government employees, cops, arrest Government officials and store them in a Government funded jail I’m sure the police will do that.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:16pmRoth when has a Government ever been drastically reformed with out violence. Military Coups, revolutions all have violence.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:28pmGod bless America land of the free uhhhh ya free because you aren’t under arrest your handcuffed for your safety.
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