Former Marine Refuses Plea Deal in NYC Gun Possession Case
- Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:00pm by
Buck Sexton
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Former Marine Ryan Jerome does not believe in partial victories.
You may recall Jerome was arrested for felony gun possession during a visit to NYC last September. He voluntarily checked in his firearm at the Empire State Building, as it was legally registered in another state, and he believed he was in compliance with the law.
Not in the Big Apple. Possession of any firearm unregistered in NYC is a major crime under the law.
As a 28-year-old Indiana-based jeweler, Jerome brought his legally-registered .45-cal Ruger to New York because he was transporting $15,000 in gold to a Long Island refinery, according to the New York Post.
The somewhat good news for 2nd Amendment advocates is that the Manhattan District Attorney has offered a plea deal to a misdemeanor with no jail time. But Jerome adamantly refuses any deal. He wants all charges dropped. Period.
It is a felony to possess a handgun in New York City whether it is registered anywhere else or not. Those caught violating the statute face a mandatory 3 1/2 year sentence, but prosecutorial discretion often allows for plea deals and lesser punishments.
As a former Marine, Jerome has received substantial support from his brothers-in-arms as well as from those in the chattering classes who believe New York’s draconian gun laws violate the 2nd Amendment. This public attention may have helped push prosecutors to treat this case less harshly than they could have.
“We continue to believe the case should be dismissed outright,” said Jerome’s lawyer, Mark Bederow, according to the New York Post.
The Post claims a document has been released regarding the case that states: “The New York District Attorney‘s Office is offering to allow your client to plead guilty to a single Class ’A’ misdemeanor in full satisfaction of all charges.” The letter was apparently addressed to Jerome’s lawyer from the prosecutor heading the case, Joseph Davis.
The Blaze will update you on any developments in the Ryan Jerome case in the weeks ahead.
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Comments (295)
perry1980
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:47pmI agree that the case should be dropped. However, it might not. And if he does not take the misdemeanor plea deal and if he is found guilty of a felony then he will never have the right to carry this gun legally again.
Sometimes you have to know when to retreat in order to fight again another day.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:51pmEvidently, he’s not free to carry it now.
Report Post »rrjenn
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:05pmRight, he can’t carry it now nor would he ever been given a permit to carry it in NYC. His best defense is to push it all the way for the sake of the 2nd amendment. It should go all the way to the US Supreme Court if needed. We once more need to fight for our constitutionally protected rights.
Report Post »Gladius_Doctorae
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:27pm@Perry1980
BULLHOCKEY sugarbritches! Retreating never helped the french, and retreating got us this clueless POTUS. Ill do it next time, gains nothing. Stand NOW for what you believe in, or dont bother standing. Besides, when has a marine ever retreated?
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:32pm“A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”
John Stuart Mill
I sure hope his attorney has the courage to tell the folks who may end up on the jury all about “jury nulliification”.
“If a juror accepts as the law that which the judge states, then the juror has accepted the exercise of absolute authority of a government employee and has surrendered a power and right that once was the citizen’s safeguard of liberty.”
Report Post »Justice Theophilus Parsons
RonmeyPaulBotsrOdd
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:33pmThis again identifies the “lawyer” mentality that permeates law and creation of legislation from the lowest to highest levels in Government. That mentality is “can’t we compromise?”….show me a prosecutor that does not care about a win and will go to great lengths to get it! Too many are so wrapped up in the game, they tend to prosecute even those that are apparently not guilty, but hey…just going for the win and if they plea down..”I got a conviction!”.
Report Post »Same crap differnent scenario for all those lawyers in the Congress. All they want is a compromise so both sides can keep doing business as usual. It disturbs them when the people are demanding for them to take a side and stick with it. The Debt Ceiling – prime example….
Freedomluver
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:43pm“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them…I won’t chip away at them;
Report Post »I believe they protect us and provide for our safety.”
Mitt Romney
encinom
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:47pmThe idiot failed rule number one of gun ownership, know the laws of the place you are in. He deserves a stay at Hotel Rikers.
UrbanCombatSurvivor
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:49pmEvery man who takes a plea bargain instead of standing on his principles and demanding his absolute RIGHT in a situation like this would be a coward.
I stand 100% behind this marine. Thank you, sir, for AGAIN defending this country!
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:52pm@encinom
You would be the first good little useful idiot to get in line for a permit to speak your mind if Big Sis demanded it…wouldn’t you.
“The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals… It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of.”
Report Post »Albert Gallatin
The_Jerk
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:52pmThis might be the case needed to get rid of this blatantly unconstitutional law.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:55pm@ perry1980
I agree that the case should be dropped. However, it might not. And if he does not take the misdemeanor plea deal and if he is found guilty of a felony then he will never have the right to carry this gun legally again.
Sometimes you have to know when to retreat in order to fight again another day.
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It’s thinking like that which got this nation to where it currently is. You never marginalize your principles like that by rationalizing defeat through acquiescence.
If so, why do you think that the case should be dropped?
Report Post »Miami
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:58pmGood for him,
This country needs more like him, that stand on their values and fight for their rights.
From one marine to all, Semper Fi
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:01pmMost of these problems rest solely on the Supreme Court. Where Are They?? Why can’t they Read the Constitution,, Our Constitution and rule , on live TV. Everyone in AMERICA should be able to see where these Rulers stand. Out in the OPEN. NOW. If these Socialist judges, want to not follow Our Constitution, it should be seen LIVE, by anyone interested.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:03pmOld saying I live by, even though I’m legal to CC…
“I’d rather be tried by 12 of my peers, than carried by 6 of my friends”……
Report Post »TheSitRep
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:14pmNo sir! He must stand and show NYC that they can not tread on his right to keep and bears arms. They are in breach of the 14th amendment also!
No state or local government can deny you of your federal rights. Imagine if NYC decided that the right of women to vote was not applicable in their town.
He must fight and NYC must lose.
Report Post »VigilantGuardShark
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:17pmWhy is it that some laws are respected from one state to the next, but not others? If a majority of States agree on a subject then shouldn‘t their citizen’s be allowed to operate under their State’s laws while travelling through others?
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:22pmtypical thin skinned arrogance.hope his hubris gets the best the best of him.I don’t care how many men women and children he managed to murder with impunity in iraq or afghanistan. He’s a citizen here like every other citizen and subject to the same laws .
fixer
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:28pm@encinom
you deserve a lifetime in the North Korea along with the rest of your liberal idiot friends.You like Communism? go get it.Don’t try bringing it here.You will regret it.
Report Post »onthefrontline
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:36pmSemper Fi. Hang in there Brother …..
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:42pmIf he gets the right lawyers behind him, along with the NRA, he will win. The NRA is pretty smart in that they are very selective on who they represent. If he is squeaky clean with no crimes or stupid stuff on his record, i can see the NRA helping him out. If NYC gets put in a position where they will lose big and have to change their laws, they will just drop this case and let him go. While the ******** in NYC hate gun ownership, they hate the though of having to comply with the 2nd amendment even worse.
Many fights are being won by the gun owners in America to include concealed carry laws in states that were very anti gun just a few years back. Facts are facts, areas with the most gun control on the books are also the areas with the most gun violence.
An interesting letter in the Australian Shooter Magazine this week:
“If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq Theater of operations during the past 22 months, and a total of 2112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.
The firearm death rate in Washington , DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period. That means you are about 25 per cent more likely to be shot and killed in the US capital which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the U..S., than you are in Iraq .
Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington .
Report Post »onthefrontline
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:45pmHey Rose ! time for you and CINMON to wash your burkas..
Report Post »It must be getting hard to see through those little screens..
Don‘t be showin’ no skin now !!!
LeatherNeck2111
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:49pmYou must not be a Marine cause retreat is not in our blood. This will be a much larger fight and could possibly lead to changing New York’s ridiculous gun laws. If the Marine gets convicted for me it will be the final nail and I will be taking myself and family out of this state. I understand the stance you take and trying to play their game but sometimes the fight has to be taken to the end. If he pleads guilty it just says NY’s gun laws are right and he is wrong. This would be a horrible thing to do and allow the state government to get away with.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:56pmI’m with rrjenn on this one.
All the way to the SCOTUS!
So, we put weapons in his hand and tell him to defend our nation.
But when he gets home, we tell him he isn’t trusted to carry a weapon.
Yep, SCOTUS here we come!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:03pmLeatherNeck2111
Well stated. Thus the reason I have always loved serving with Marines. I was in Marjah during the surge. Working with young Marines was an awsome time.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:07pmIt seems to me that the reason why the prosecution is offering this deal is that they are searching for a face-saving exit.
They can feel the ground shifting underneath them and the politicians involved doubtless fear unpredictable consequences further down the track.
Bless this marine for his courage, integrity, and determination. The world would be a better place if there were more like him.
Report Post »Jinglebob
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:19pm“Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. The Marines don’t have that problem”
- Ronald Reagan
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:25pmRose Ellen seems so ironic that this warrior you bash defends your right to do so. You are truly a decpicable human being.
Report Post »drst4scss
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:36pmPerry your a coward!!! You lack Honor, Pride and dignity!!! What a BS answer!!!
Report Post »Recceman90
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 5:28pmI can’t wait to have the National CCW law go into effect…then these Liberal anti-gun/pro criminal cities can cry in their tofu! (sp?)
Report Post »VermontPatriot
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 5:36pmYou really expect a U.S. Marine to take a plea deal?
Report Post »JRook
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 5:38pmWhat exactly does the former marine label mean. It certainly has nothing to do with the behavior or charges. How’s about the Blaze do an analysis of how many former military are in prison?
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:04pmJustice Stephen Breyer was robbed last week by a machete-wielding intruder at his vacation home in the West Indies, a Supreme Court spokeswoman said. Remember D.C. v. Heller?”
Report Post »marvel
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:04pm@encinom
Since according to the supreme law of the United States, “…the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed…”, it makes sense that he naturally adhered to a different set of rules concerning gun ownership, where the first is the following:
1) Treat every gun as if it was loaded.
I might as well post the other 3 for any readers who are unfamiliar.
2) Never point a gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
Report Post »3) Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
4) Keep your finger off the trigger until the gun is lined up on target.
encinom
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:10pm@marvel
Report Post »You left out the first part of the Amendment, the well regulated militia.
Wilbur Longshank
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:22pmI have to agree with the guy all or nothing. I live in Pa have a registered gun and a permit to carry it consealed, but NY NJ does not recognize our conseal permits from Pa. guess they don’t trust our law enforcement to do a good check.
I have an ankle holster you would never know I have a 380 strapped to my leg. I travel all over NY Nj for my job and feel much safer with it, but I don’t dare take it to those two states.
congress did pass a law saying anybody with a consealed carry permit all other states would have to honor it, not this pick and choose states the way it is now.
Report Post »But of course Reid has it sitting in his desk with the rest of the bills he’s holding on to and doing nothing with.
shortyellowbus
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:26pmIt is possible to regain gun rights after a felony conviction in some states. Takes a long time and paperwork, but it is possible.
Report Post »quicker
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:36pmRose Ellen needs to go back in his tent ,His goat is lonely and wants a baby.
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:48pm@encinom
“to keep and bear arms”
Going out on a limb and assuming you don’t know the definition of “keep” or “bear” right?
Report Post »libtardian-refugee
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:57pmThe courts are designed to make it easy to plead guilty, and difficult to “prove your innocence. Wonder if lawyers have anything to do with that
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 7:09pm@encinom
You left out the clear intent of the founders. Was that for convenience, or do you simply hate the Bill of Rights?
“False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.”
Cesare Beccaria, as quoted by Thomas Jefferson’s Commonplace book
“Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place with all that’s good. When firearms go, all goes; we need them every hour.”
George Washington
“That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United states who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms…”
Samuel Adams
Any more brainwashed leftist comments…encinom?
Report Post »CloudNine
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 7:29pm@Perry1980
You Sir, are a coward!
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 7:30pm@FREEDOMLUVER
Excellent quotes Sir. Hope you don’t mind if I use them in the future.
Report Post »Italia
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 7:53pmI agree that all charges should be dropped. He’s obviously innocent of any kind of wrongdoing. He just had his pistol with him, did the right thing, now they want to stick the kid with some kind of record. Why?
Report Post »rc30
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 7:58pmHell with a retreat. We need to stand and fight every day. That all we do is retreat every dam day. When in the hell is the time going to be right to fight. Am not saying we need to start some type of war. But when its wrong its wrong. We all stand and fight wrong doing or we do what we all ways do. Drop are head and walk away. Well I don’t walk away any more. If you are a LIB and want to start in on me. Am calling your bluff and going to agrue back. If you agure with a LIB you can punch hole in there BS so easy.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 8:21pmSemper Fi Marine…tell me how I can help you. Will be there to defend your 6. God save us all. What part of “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” do they not understand??? Death to the enemy, inside the gates. Death to them all.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 9:33pm@Freedomluver
Ouch, ouch, ouch, all this truth and facts is jurt hurting the heck out of the gun hating libs who want to twist the truth.
I blieve you have shut up ENCINOM for a while. He may pop off at the gumms, but he will not have any arguement for you my friend.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 9:35pm“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Prior to the Revolutionary War, all American Colonists that were not French or Spanish were British subjects. Their nation had the best regulated militia in the world. This militia was able to take over the nation of India with hundreds of millions of people and parts of China (Hong Kong) as well as several colonies in African territory, Australia, and a smattering of Pacific and Atlantic islands. They were so well regulated that they obeyed the commands of their officers to steal the munitions and weapons from their fellow countrymen and colonists. This culminated in the battles of Lexington and Concord. In these cities, the redcoats which were at that time the militia that was supposed to protect the colonists, turned upon their cousins and started to deprive them of their freedoms, their weapons, and even their lives.
The first ten amendments were written a paltry decade or so after these events and with the move from the state oriented and weak Articles of Confederation to the United States Constitution, the public felt the need to specifically enumerate their RIGHT to keep and bear arms. The 2nd does not guarantee the gov’t a right to keep and bear arms. Anyone who believes that doesn‘t understand that the central tenant of gov’t is to provide protection and inherently comes with that ability. The 2nd is for individ
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 9:58pmHere’s a good article examining cities with gun control and those with less restrictive laws:
Can Gun Control Reduce Crime?
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0210e.asp
“On the other hand, New Hampshire has almost no gun control and its cities are rated among the safest in the country. Across the border in Massachusetts, which has very stringent gun-control laws, cities of comparable size have two to three times as much crime as New Hampshire.
Vermont has the least restrictive gun-control law. It recognizes the right of any Vermonter who has not otherwise been prohibited from owning a firearm to carry concealed weapons without a permit or license. Yet Vermont has one of the lowest crime rates in America, ranking 49 out of 50 in all crimes and 47th in murders.”
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 10:00pmThe Government can’t do anything contrary to the Laws of Nature, or Nature’s God. That means they must respect and secure my unalienable Rights. I have a Right to defend and preserve my Life, Liberty and property, with any means necessary.
“The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.” William Blackstone
I don’t care who you are. Rights are endowed by God. The Government, since it has not originated or granted even one natural or fundamental Right to the people, has no power to disarm a free people or man.
“Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense.” John Adams
“Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can.” Samuel Adams
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 10:01pmNo Government, even NYC, can take away my God given Rights.
“That all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot by any compact deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.” George Mason
“A people armed and free forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition and is a bulwark for the nation against foreign invasion and domestic oppression.” James Madison
What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t folks understand? As long as a man has LIFE, and is at Liberty (not in prison or detention), all his fundamental and natural Rights are secured, and guaranteed in the Constitution. A right, such as self defense, is so ingrained into our human nature that it cannot be denied. Your denial of someone’s right to own and use a gun, can be the difference between that man protecting and defending his family, children or home from attacks or threats, and him losing and being unable to protect his own, though they be innocent. You think you’re denying HIM a right, but if he has a daughter to protect, you’re also denying her a father to defend her from others.
“The right of self-defense never ceases. It is among the most sacred, and alike necessary to nations and to individuals.” James Monroe
Report Post »golfmom
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 10:04pmIf NY can ban guns then it seems to reason that another city could ban abortions. Both are rights given under the constitution! What gives NY the special right to deny a right? This country has gone insane!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 10:31pmHere‘s Ted Nugent’s latest liberal smackdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=OzJbpA8_wl4#
Report Post »betterthantv
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 10:47pmBut your assuming they can find a jury of 12 people that will actually convict him. Fat chance of that! Even in NYC I doubt they could find 12 people to convict.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 10:54pmI had a pistol permit in NYS . You are told you can’t carry your gun in NYC. He had an out of state permit, NYS does recognize out of state permits. (unless they changed the law) So he broke state law too.
Report Post »georgiavietvet
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 11:00pmPERRY1980…….why should he give in, when new york is in clear violation of the constitution. if he is convicted, he should appeal to the next higher court, all the way to the supreme court if need be, to prove his point. he should also be sueing new york for violating his 2nd amendment right to keep and bare arms. its time states like new york learn that they are not above the law or the constitution……………………..
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:02amJROOK says:
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 5:38pm
“How’s about the Blaze do an analysis of how many former military are in prison?”
Sure, right along with the one on conservatives vs. liberals in prison. (Straight up comparison)
Report Post »And another on atheists vs. Christians in prison. (Comparison by percentages for obvious reasons)
777patriot
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:20amSo our government trusts him to carry a m4 or more on foreign soil and be able to control himself, but not here in the states while under the protection and duty of the 2nd amendment. This is a travesty, he shouldn’t have to accept a plea deal.
A bigger travesty of justice is going on in Oklahoma with Staff Sergeant Charles Dyer aka July4Patriot. This honorable veteran is having his rights trampled on, and has recently been tazzed three times and thrown in solitary for the three weeks following his second mistrial. Please google Charles Dyer, this is an American hero who needs your support.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:53am@ eninom
Report Post »@marvel
You left out the first part of the Amendment, the well regulated militia.
I don’t usually call people morons on line although it seems to fit your post. “Well regulated” at the time it was drafted, means very capable or well practiced with your firearm. At that time, unlike now, there were very little “regulations” as compared to present day. The common sense people of that day are a lot like the common sense people today and have a hard time putting up with thought patterns like yours
ApostolicIlx
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:17amThe thing is he can argue the right to keep and bear arms to the supreme court and get the NYC law thrown out, just like the Chicago law, D.C. law, etc, or the city can drop the case and keep it’s law. their choice. Sometimes, our legal system is just hilarious.
Report Post »arx
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:44amTo all you callling Perry a coward, please lay off him a bit. He only suggested what 9 out of 10 people here do every day to one extent or another. It takes some big cajones to face down a felony charge on principle alone.
That said, it’s going to take a lot more people like him to change the direction of this country….people with enough sack and righteous anger to say NO when confronted with tyranny, and take a stand even at great risk.
Report Post »AKDuclos
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:29pmStand your ground.
Come on NRA, get it done.
New Your sucks
Report Post »Iraq03USMC
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:59pmReally? Accept being unjustly convicted of a crime in which you have a RIGHT and PROTECTION under the US Constitution to carry a gun. No where does it say, you have a right by ‘State Permission only’. Marines never run from a fight. Like our Hymn says “We will fight for right and freedom and to keep our honor clean. We are proud to claim the title of UNITED STATES MARINE. Keep fighting Marine Ryan Jerome. Take this all the way and shove it right up Bloomberg’s a$$. A guaranteed Right is a gaurnateed Right-2A. Please gov’t can I have your permission to excercise my right. I will pay you money for your permit-ion to do it. Citizen don’t get permission, subject’s do.Semper Fidelis, Vigilio et Paratus. Molon Lebe Gov’t. Just try and take them. God, Marines, Soldiers, Vets and good citizens will come the aid of their country. Review HB 45, The Blair Holt Act. Its waiting in the wings for Congress to pass. Then they will go to the states and ask for all their records on gun permit holders, send them a letter-‘Do have any arms you’d like to declare for registration?” Throw it away. Because if you do and say no, you just committed a felony, like not telling the truth on a ATF from 4473. Then they have prima facie evidence for the search warrant for you house. Question is..will your Sheriff’s uphold their Constitutional oaths and protect you? http://www.cspoa.org
Report Post »http://www.oathkeepers.org
old white guy
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 7:44amany restriction anywhere in the country is a violation of the second amendment. n.y. city is still part of the u.s. and has to abide by the second amendment.
Report Post »kim
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 11:34ami agree with you if he is in trouble for carring it now then what will happen to him then
Report Post »jblovesAmerica
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:47pmas a old military man-all old military men and women-write and call the Mayors/DA offices and raise hell in support of this young man.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:04pmBloomberg would just use them for fire starter in his mansions fire place. The man cares nothing of what the public thinks. He views them as cattle and sheep that need to be tended to…
Report Post »Master Sergeant Malone
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:00pmThat’s a damn good idea..bombard the liberal SOB’s!!!
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 5:54pmDon’t just write or call politicians, send $20 to the NRA for his defense fund, they want to take this one all the way by proving that the constitution trumps local laws. A win would prove not just the 2nd Amendment but the 1st and 10th and all the others.
OMG.
Report Post »Italia
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 7:57pm“That’s a damn good idea..bombard the liberal SOB’s!!!”
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Report Post »Mayor Bloomberg is a Republican.
eagle2715
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 8:33pmITALIA, your wrong on so many levels….When you try to ‘correct’ someone, you should at least open another tab with Google, less you look like an idiot…Here, I’ll help!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg
He is actually an Independent, but that was after he was a Republican, and that iss after he was a Democrat…
….He is a liberal, that is a different adjective than R or D or I… As in you can have a liberal republican, or conservative democrat, or progressive independent…
And when he was, he was about as much of a Republican as Kathleen Sebelius is a Catholic….
Saying you are one doesn’t make it the case….
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:43pmEven with these laws NYC STILL has lots of criminals using guns!!! When you outlaw the guns only outlaws will have guns!!! Bloomberg of course, being very filthy disgustingly wealthy has his own “private security” and would not have to defend himself accordingly!!!!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:50pmthe problem is Virgina and other Southern states along the I-95 route. As the Mayor’s office has proven, the las are so law that short of coming out and saying you are a criminal the dealers will sell gund to anybody, no back-ground check at all.
Report Post »UrbanCombatSurvivor
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:51pmGun Control is RACE Control. It’s all about CONTROL…
Politicians are afraid for minorities to legally own firearms to defend themselves with. That is why gun control laws are the most severe where there are the most minorities.
Gun Control = Race Control.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:08pmYou have a stroke recently ENCINOM? Or you just hitting the sauce earlier now? That post is almost indecipherable…
Report Post »doublee
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:27pm@encinom, you are an idiot, saying that gun dealers in states in the south are selling guns with no background check is an outright lie, either prove it or STFU. The only illeagle sale of guns is thru the justice dept. and thats proven.
Report Post »onthefrontline
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:34pmObama and Holder Gave the Mexicans Thousands of GUNS,
Report Post »Should they be brought up on CHARGES ????HMMMMMM
DUMP THIS CORRUPT ADMIISTRATION..
RScottie
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:39pm“the problem is Virgina and other Southern states along the I-95 route. As the Mayor’s office has proven, the las are so law that short of coming out and saying you are a criminal the dealers will sell gund to anybody, no back-ground check at all.”
You are incorrect Encinom, a back-ground check is still a requirement for all gun sales by licensed gun dealers. You should research gun laws before making such incorrect statements.
By the way, it is also illegal for anyone to knowingly sell a firearm to a felon.
Laws that restrict law abiding citizens from carrying firearms do nothing to decrease crime but everything to increase innocent people becoming crime victims.
The only laws needed are ones against illegal USE of a weapon, and, as afaik, it is already illegal to murder someone in NYC, and it is already illegal to rob someone. What more do you need?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:44pmdoublee
Report Post »Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:27pm
@encinom, you are an idiot, saying that gun dealers in states in the south are selling guns with no background check is an outright lie, either prove it or STFU. The only illeagle sale of guns is thru the justice dept. and thats proven.
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I don’t need to prove it, Mayor Bloomberg already has. The Mayor has released reports and hours of undercover video of the scam that guns shows are. Clear proof of the merchants of death at gun hsows sealing ever weapon possible to anbody with cash, no background check, no matter what.
doublee
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:06pmencinom – “I don’t need to prove it, Mayor Bloomberg already has. The Mayor has released reports and hours of undercover video of the scam that guns shows are. Clear proof of the merchants of death at gun hsows sealing ever weapon possible to anbody with cash, no background check, no matter what”.
Bloomy hasn’t proved a thing but what a tool he is to the marxist, communist administration that is history in November 2012 – CONSERVATIVES, VOTE EARLY AND VOTE OFTEN
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:12pm@doublee
Report Post »Bloomberg proved what a fraud gun shows are and how they are nothing more than a mack truck sized loophole in resonsible gun legislation. Private dealers selling guns to anybody with cash, no back ground check needed.
Freedomluver
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 7:24pm@encinom
So, since someone ignores a law that’s already on the books, writing another law will stop them…eh? LOL
Then again, you obviously can’t figure out just how on earth DC has such ridiculous gun laws…and tons of violent crime.
You and Bloomberg are two peas in a pod as that fool will back any insane law that fits his left wing agenda.
Here’s one of his choice quotes…just for you.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/nanny-state-looks-ban-salt-nyc
“If we know there’s asbestos in a school room what do you expect us to do?” Bloomberg shot back at reporters questioning his new initiative. “Say it’s not our business? I don’t think so. The same thing is true with food and smoking and a lot of things.
“Salt and asbestos, clearly both are bad for you,” Bloomberg continued. “Modern medicine thinks you shouldn’t be smoking if you want to live longer. Modern medicine thinks you shouldn’t be eating salt, or sodium.”
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Anyone who would quote Bloomberg as proof for anything is an idiot.
Report Post »dcraw21b
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 11:22pmIf someone at buys a gun at a gun show and is legitimately not legal to purchase one, how can it then be the governments job to attempt to keep everyone from purchasing a gun? That is what we’ve come to with almost everything in this nation. Rather than being smart and seeing that whether or not a convict buys a gun at a gun show, he’ll get it somewhere!!!! Go out and buy one for yourself! Quit expecting the government to protect you from the evil in this world. DO IT YOURSELF. Go get yourself a gun and a security system and some decent weapons training so when some crack head tries to take your money or property, you can actually protect your family. Get off your a$$ America. Do something proactive to protect yourself.
By not doing anything and looking to big brother for help is why we are in such trouble as a country. I stand 100% behind this marine! Thank you for your service; then and now. God Bless you!
Report Post »patriotinoh
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:38pmYou go Marine! We are behind you all the way. It’s time Mr. Bloomberg is taken to task! I hope the NRA steps in soon.
Report Post »lowermytaxes
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:04pmGive them h^ll Marine, does he have a defence fund set up? If so we need to support him and every other person exercising their 2nd ammendment RIGHTS.
Report Post »BROBB549
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:37pmSemper Fi, my friend. Stand your ground. It is about time for New York to join the United States of America and recognize the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.
Report Post »B-Neil
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:35pmEverybody needs to learn how to say; NO when it counts. This Marine has picked the proper time and place. Giv-um hell Jar Head, This Old Grunt is behond you. Carry on McDUFF
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:19pmI’m the child of a marine.,I support him 100 percent,Don’t back down sir.This is just the beginning.Fight till its finished.
Report Post »Patriot of My America
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:26pmI am proud of this American, I support him and hope he prevails. Below are a couple links that will be enjoyed.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/viral-video-dad-shoots-daughters-laptop-with-45-pistol-after-finding-secret-facebook-post/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFXj1ciLZQg&feature=related
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:31pm“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Seems pretty clear to me.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:38pmGive em hell, Marine! They only offered the plea deal because they know this is going to be a heavy blow to their constitution trampling agenda!
Report Post »PoliticalType
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:25pmI hope this marine gets some pro bono help fighting this unconstitutional law.
He’s in for at least 5 years of legal headaches, and may go to jail because of the horrendous liberal lower court judges.
Those judges won’t care that the Supreme Court struck down the D.C. handgun ban, since liberals are prone to be tyrants.
He’ll have to keep fighting this to the Supreme Court, and hope the 5 conservatives stay on the court or get replaced by a new Republican president and senate.
Report Post »LSBeene
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:24pmI disagree with gun laws that are draconian. I am pro-2nd amendment. Just wanted to say that in preface to:
Ryan Jerome did not get CAUGHT with a handgun. He did not commit a crime like DUI, and they FOUND the handgun. No one snitched him out and told police he had a handgun.
He brought the gun with him from a state where it was legal, to a state with different laws. He did so because he was transporting valuables (gold in this case). He then VOLUNTARILY turned in the gun.
There is a crucial concept in law: Rens Mea (guilty mind) – that’s where you have an INTENT to break the law. Now, you can cross a property line and trespass without knowing, or speed without intending to, but this isn’t that kind of case.
He may have known that NY has decided that us unwashed masses don’t deserve the same protection as “our betters” and he should have left the weapon at in his hotel safe.
I mean, he’s not completely innocent, but it goes a LONG WAY when someone turns in the weapon.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:52pmMuch like Illegal Aliens, crossing our border.
Report Post »selloursouls
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:08pmYou are absolutely right. He isn’t innocent. He is guilty of utilizing his 2nd Amendment right. When did following the Constitution become a crime? It is a sad day when Americans believe someone is guilty of a crime when they are simply honoring the Constitution.
LSBeene you are part of the problem. Please never complain about someone violating your rights because with your attitude you are just as culpable of the destruction of the Constitution as New York City.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:24pmSo, the prosecutor can choose who to prosecute and for what charge.
Report Post »If two people have the exact same infraction, two different sentences can be sought and achieved.
If identical infraction are treated differently, that is discrimination.
Who protects us from our own justice system?
texanpatriot
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:23pmThere is no such person as a “Former Marine.” When is the Blaze going to understand the respect that should be accorded these heroes? How about saying ‘A Marine who served from _____ to ____ and is now works as a _____________.
I say this Marine is being Always Faithful…
Now that we have a lot of manufacturing in the South I say we should invade NY and reform them.
Report Post »freedom for sale
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:45pmThe term HERO is used way to much.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:07pmWhile you are correct, I’d take “former”, over “ex”…
The “once a Marine, always a Marine” can be difficult to explain to people who don’t belong to a similar group… Most often it’s not meant in disrespect, just ignorance..
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:21pmI know I’m the child of a marine.There is no former or ex.You are always a marine.
Report Post »BlackCrow
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:23pmWayne LaPierre do you hear this? Larry Pratt? Time to step up! We did in Washington D.C. We did in Chicago Time to pull the lawyers on Bloomberg and his ilk!
Report Post »David Hudson
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:20pmStanding firm on principle. Semper Fi from an Army brother.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:19pmFight them Marine and I know you’ll never quit,you don’t know how to quit.Semper Fi carry on.
BTW Every gun law passed since the second amendment is unconstitutional.Don’t believe it,show me where in the second amendment it states we need a permit from government to own a firearm.There’s no qualifiers in the second amendment.
Report Post »PossumStu
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:31pmAmen brother. Couldn’t have said it better.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:33pmIf gubments can require a permit for you to excercise your 2nd Amendment rights, what’s keeping those gubments from requiring a permit for exercising your 1st Amendment rights?
To those who say this isn’t cause for slippery slope concerns, I say, “wake up”; while I still can with out gubment’s permittance.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 2:40pmLIBERALS demand Americans pay fees, take classes, and beg permission to exercize our 2nd Amendment Right, but will also scream “RACISM” and throw tantrums if you suggest that voters show some form of I.D. at the election booth.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:14pmIn total support of Mr Jerome’s decision .
Report Post »byehlik
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:17pmBoycott NY! Enough said!
Report Post »big_daddy
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:40amNo, we shouldn’t boycott NYC. We should have an OPEN carry protest. Let them try to deal with hundreds/thousands lawfully armed (out-of-state) CCW permit holders who will demonstrate peacefully.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:13pmNew York City,
if you don’t like America you are welcome to secede from the Union and make the final break from the Liberties our Constitution affords.
Report Post »Knucklenose
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 6:27pmcan you imagine the illegals we’d get from new york if they did secede? king bloomberg, would have to build an iron curtain. this sounds like the making of a movie…call it escape from…. oh wait, never mind
Report Post »jetblast3500
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:03pm@Knuckle ROFL, tooo funny. Where’s Plisken when you need him? lol
Report Post »badswing
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:12pmcrazy not to accept plea…get a new lawyer….BLOOMBERG is a dictator and will put you in jail. not worth the fight from the inside. even tho the law sucks it still is the law. 3.5 years is a long time.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:24pmWatch it’ll be 3.5 years with all but 7 days…
They’ll make an “example” out of him…
Then after that people will be quietly fined like they are the 1%.
Report Post »SLARTIBARTFAST
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:37pmGotta’ agree on accepting this plea. No way will Bloomberg let him off, he’s got too much invested in his anti-gun crusade. Take the deal and be free to fight another day, as well as keeping your gun owning rights intact.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:46pmI guess both of you guys missed the part where they said he was a MARINE?
He should fight this just like he’s doing. It’s the most honorable thing to do.
By fighting this crap law suit he’s following through on the oath to protect and defend the Constitution.
Report Post »selloursouls
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 3:18pmWell, looks like I know a couple more people who I wouldn’t count on to help defend the Constitution. Patton would be slapping the crap out a few people on this forum. America really has started raising cowards. It’s sad that a Marine has to defend us and our Constitution overseas yet when he comes back we tell him to surrender and let the Constitution be destroyed when he is in the right. The progressives have done quite a job on the sheeple of this country.
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:12pmAll I can say is it’s a dam good thing there was no gun laws during the American revolution or we would still be under British rule. Wait a minute, do you think that fact was on anybodies mind when they impliented the first law against guns? Just say’in!!!
Report Post »David286 - FL
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:12pmTake it all the way to the Supreme Court…Enough with the destruction of our Constitutional rights!
Report Post »dnewton
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 4:43pmYou can not take something to the supreme court without realizing that they could refuse to hear the case. That is like losing. I don’t understand what kind of face saving action can be taken by the city. Either way they look stupid. Maybe the legislature or the body that made the law could bail the prosecutor out by making an exception or coming up with a better law.
Report Post »NOTAMUSHROOM
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:11pmThe problem being that a misdemeanor on his record would impede his ability to carry a gun and/or purchase firearns. They NYC prosecuter knows this full well so it’s a kind of PR thing for the prosecutor and a backhanded FU to the Marine.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:15pmI Wish I Could Purchase That Hand Gun But I Live In The New Jersey Soviet Republic
The 14th Amendment make me a citizen of the USA not New Jersey so why must I be compelled to give up my Bill of Rights because I live in NJ?
I am glad this case is going to the Supreme Court because NY and other Soviet states know these repressive gun laws will be over turned. The day the Soviet NJ law is overturned I will electronically send off my purchase to legally buy that gun like people in other states can and do.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:09pmSemper Fi, Teuffel. Don’t back down.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:21pmNow, we *do* have a Constitutional problem here, though, in the incorporated vs. unincorporated Constitutional definitions.
The Incorporated Constitution would say that if something applies at the Federal level, it also applies at the state level (as in the Second Amendment argument here).
If that’s the case, then it also means (by nature of “a stupid parsing of the Constitution,” as David Barton calls it) that the 10 Commandments can’t be in local courtrooms, on public property, or taught in schools, as we Social Conservatives would prefer.
On the other hand, the 10th Amendment can be argued in favor of an unincorporated Constitution, which in essence means that while the Federal government can’t effectively ban guns as NYC has, the local level can (and in NYC’s case, has).
Applying it back to the 10 Commandments, this parsing would mean that while the (capital S) State can’t establish a religion, the many states can (and in the past, have). This is the side of the argument we non-Atheist Social Conservatives fall on, more often than not.
We’re on both sides of this argument, depending upon the issue.
Not a pretty place to be. :-/
P.S. a note to the Blaze… There’s no such thing as a “Former Marine.“ The proper term is ”Prior Service“ or ”Veteran” Marine. Please correct accordingly.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:44pmDitto!
Report Post »macphyter
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 5:03pm@LEFTFIGHTER-
Thanks for this amazingly insightful post, and I mean that sincerely. I never realized I was playing both sides of the fence until you explained it to me. I think I would find myself in the “Incorporated Constitution” camp, because that would help stomp out the 2nd amendment infringements by the liberal socialist goverments of some states or cities.
However, concerning the 10 commandments, I think it could be argued that the State is not necessarily establishing a religion by displaying them, but simply espousing a philosophy? Don’t you think?
In any case, lets hope this Marine wins this battle. It could affect all of us in the long run.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 7:45am@macphyter
All praise goes to God and David Barton. I first fully understood the quandry while listening to him talking on the subject.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 7:57amFor anyone else not understanding the above (because I’m long er- winded??)
Incorporated Constitution:
Incorporated: If it applies at the Federal level, it applies at the state level.
Result: Guns can’t be banned, even at the local level, but anything religious can be banned from public properety.
Unincorporated: The Bill of Rights only applies at the Federal level and the states can do as they wish, in accordance with the 10th Amendment.
Report Post »Result: Guns can be banned by state or local government, if that government’s constituency so decides, and (theoretically) God can be worshipped in an open forum in state or local government buildings, if that state’s constituency so decides. BTW, “this is what Democracy looks like.”
@leftfighter
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 8:40am@macphyter
Frankly, I’m torn. The question boils down to, which tyrant would you rather have? Federal or local?
The whole thing kinda breaks down when you really look at how the 10th has been applied until now:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the People.”
The power to limit guns, religious freedom, etc. is not delegated to the Federal gov’t, but under the current interpretation, the Constitution does prohibit the states from making those moves.
Unfortunately, Progressives within SCotUS are using the “living, breathing” argument & looking at int’l law instead of our own laws are interpreting, so you never know if this is going to end up being reinterpreted.
Gun to my head? I guess I fall on the Incorporated side. I can handle not being able to worship on gov’t property if I can retain “the People‘s Liberty’s teeth” b/c I‘d still be allowed to worship in any building not owned by the gov’t.
Here’s the danger: how many of our own homes or small businesses are at least in part owned by the gov’t via Fannie, Freddie, or the VA? When does the “ban God” SCotUS Progressive get the bright idea to make a move on worship in any home with a loan funded by gov’t?
I wouldn’t put that move past Progressives, but we‘d still have a right to alter that gov’t; or abolish it, using said “People‘s Liberty’s teeth,” if absolutely
Report Post »JBaer
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:07pmGood for him for sticking to his guns. (Yes, pun intended)
Report Post »susie4dy
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:07pmI stand with the Marine Ryan Jerome ! Last time I looked new York is part of the United states, Not Nazi Germany!
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:15pmWith bloomberg as mayor, nyc became part of nazi germany when he bought his third term.
Report Post »marthasusan40
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:05pmStand tough Jerome..you will be in my prayers.
Report Post »Elena2010
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 1:04pmSemper Fi, Marine!
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