Fort Hood Shooter’s Beard Puts Trial On Hold
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FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) — The trial for an Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly 2009 Fort Hood shooting has been put on hold while an appeals court considers his objections to being forcibly shaved.
Maj. Nidal Hasan had been scheduled to enter a plea Wednesday to charges in the attack at the Texas Army post, but all court proceedings were put on hold before he could do that.
Nidal Hasan. Credit: AP
According to a defense motion, Hasan indicated he wanted to plead guilty for religious reasons. Hasan, 41, is an American-born Muslim.
But the judge, Col. Gregory Gross, said he could not accept a guilty plea on the 13 charges of premeditated murder. That‘s because the charges carry death as the maximum punishment and the government is pursuing the death penalty in Hasan’s case. Hasan also is charged with 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.
The trial that was to start Monday will be on hold until the Army appeals court rules on Hasan’s objection to being shaved. An appeals court order issued Wednesday that put the proceedings on hold gives the judge a week to respond.
Hasan‘s attorneys have said he won’t shave because the beard he has grown in violation of Army regulations is an expression of his Muslim faith. But Gross said Hasan would be forcibly shaved at some point before the trial if he didn’t shave the beard himself. He said he wants Hasan in the courtroom during the court-martial to prevent a possible appeal on the issue if he is convicted.
At the start of Tuesday’s hearing, Gross once again found Hasan in contempt of court and fined him $1,000 for disobeying orders to shave. Hasan then was taken to a nearby room to watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television, as he has done since growing the beard in June.
Gross previously delayed Hasan’s trial from March to June and then to August. On Tuesday, he refused defense attorneys’ request to delay the start of the trial again and said it would begin with jury selection as scheduled Monday.
Prosecutors have a 265-person witness list for Hasan’s trial, including a terrorism consultant who says the American-born Muslim meets several factors indicating he’s a home-grown terrorist.
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another pucker
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:24pmLet’s remember this THING, until he is tried and convicted, continues to receive about $6,000 a month, his salary, tax payers money!
I say immediate dishonorable discharge. Than let’s just try him in the civilian court! Remember, it is Texas, we follow through with the death penalty!
XOXOXO
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:32pmHe is still a US Officer and should be compelled to wear his uniform and shave. If he refuses MPs should shave him and dress him by force. He should be Court Marshaled for this behavior. Is the entire US Army now a Army of queers? Are there no real men left in our military?
Report Post »BrownWaterVet
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:38pmYes, he continues to collect his pay & benefits. The government has determined that this is a case of “workplace violence”, not terrorism. The soldiers killed & wounded are not entitled to any medals or recognition as a result. Based on the background info that has come out so far on this guy & the shooting, how is this NOT terrorism? Why is the government so afraid to call this what it is, terrorism?
Semper Fortis
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:38pmIf the present US Army is too cowardly to do what should be done, Let General Franks take over. I and many old retirees will volunteer to help Franks straiten out that Court Marshall.
Report Post »Flag-Man
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:54pmThe rules of the military say no facial hair, so what is the problem here?
Report Post »He is still in the Army. Shave him.
Semper Fi
manjodad
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:07pmThe government decided it was workplace violence? You mean Obama decided it was workplace violence. Shave him, wax him, burn it off, pluck it out. Do whatever needs to be done. He was a soldier when he started this, he will remain a soldier until they dishonorably discharge him and put him before a firing squad.
Report Post »Altair
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:07pmSad to say, Muffy… this is the case where General Casey said a greater casualty than the deaths this animal caused might be “diversity in the Army.”
Report Post »RaeAnnR
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:18pm“At the start of Tuesday’s hearing, Gross once again found Hasan in contempt of court and fined him $1,000 for disobeying orders to shave. Hasan then was taken to a nearby room to watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television, as he has done since growing the beard in June.”
He should be find $1000 PER DAY until he does obey orders to shave. We would get our money back and then some… This POS forfeit his rights when he shot all of those people… This pansy a$$ judge needs to grow a few and get this done!
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:30pmIf they can’t hold him down and shave him, do it the simple way, have someone smear bacon drippings in his beard and then he won’t be able to get it off fast enough.
Report Post »panache
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:38pmJust release him and put him in a barracks with a few dozen army guys. They will take care of the situation. Whoops, the razor slipped. Too bad………
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:56pmShouldn’t be too hard to slip some knock-out drops in this
Report Post »TUR*S food or drink and then shave his sorry azz like a
Q-ball…it’s not rocket science. drop all the charges, say
one..for murder, wash him in pigs blood and hang him..
along with the rest of the Git-Mo residents, and knock off
all this Liberal politically correct bullshi**..”Get Err’ Done”
GOOD GAWD…………………………………………………..
DesdemonasCrew
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 8:08pmI say shave him. Right about shoulder level.
Report Post »DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:43pmHandcuff him, shave every inch of his body, put lipstick and eye shadow on him, stick his fat rear end in a flowery sun dress and march him into the courtroom to be tried, convicted and put to death.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:28pm@muffythetuffy
You must’ve missed the article on the gay General. The answer to your question is “yes”.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:56pmJust add insubordination and mutiny to the charges and proceed. I believe the military still has the death penalty. In a court martial this could take 20 minutes and justice rendered by sunset.
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on August 16, 2012 at 8:51am@Muffy: court martial him? Big deal-he’s already got all those death sentences pending. Forget the Army regs, try this pos and execute him!
Report Post »BTW-ever notice how ALL these mass killers have that crazed look in their eyes?
StonyBurk
Posted on August 16, 2012 at 8:57amLet’s not forget either–all those years when he was pretending to be an Officer and a gentleman and merely promoted the HATE of Islam in his power point programs and such– it was ok for the Muslim to live and to slay his fellow soldiers and wage jihad against them with no beard–but now that he is on trial suddenly he doesn’t want to die without a beard? What a pantload of pig dung.
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on August 16, 2012 at 10:00amSedate him and shave that nasty thing off….case closed…..dammit man….he killed American Service Men and he is treated like a foreign national on amnesty.
Report Post »ahall925
Posted on August 16, 2012 at 10:46amSadly, he is being Court Martialed by the Military. When given the death penalty, he will be transfered to Fort Leavenworth. The death warrant has to be signed by the President. So you know it will never happen.
Report Post »Gremlin1974
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:58pmNo civilian court. I want this trash to Hang, period.
Message to Mitt Romney, within 24 hours after you win the election order the Justice department to officially review the charges in this case and have it classified as it should have been from the start, as an overt and open act of terrorism. Heck, even the accused says it was Terrorism for crying out loud.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:23pmForce shave him and get on with Army business.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:35pmThe Army would never tolerate some white male acting like this. MPs would be ordered to shave him with a dull razor and scrub him down with a scrub brush. Is our whole US Army now a bunch of sniffling homosexuals?
Report Post »Msgt Ret
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 8:07pmYep!
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:19pmWould the Army like some help shaving him?
Report Post »devildogger
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 11:22pmNo Muffy, those who serve are not unable to perform the task. This goat f*cking subhuman just needs to be sprayed clean with a firehose. The military is NOT a democratic organization. It is a dictatorship. Maj. hasan has no rights he serves under the UCMJ, not the Constitution. Tie him down, anesthetize him and shave him. And shave him every damn day. And when he is executed for his crimes, bury him with a freshly killed pig. Just like BlackJack Pershing did in the Phillipines
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on August 16, 2012 at 1:01pmAdd your comments @ TAXEVERYONE I’ll help!
Report Post »IIIcorp
Posted on August 16, 2012 at 3:15pmStart fining him $1000 per day that he has the beard. His Attorneys will get him to shave when they see their fees going away. Muffy the real men in the Armed forces have stripes on their sleeves. Once the gold goes on the hat brim, they become politically correct wimps.
Report Post »Gremlin1974
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:59pmForce shave him, give him a BLT for breakfast and lets get this court thing on.
Report Post »bcope01
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:13pmShave the SOB and get on with the trail. Recommend death by firing squad.
Report Post »clockwatcher
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:12pmHe should get Islamic justice just like in the peace loving people of Syria, you know tie the guy up and throw him off a 4 story building. After all is the way of the religion of peace.
Report Post »KenInIL
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:41pmWhy has it taken 3 years to “bring him to trial”. With dozens of witnesses, why do the LIARS need so long to prepare, they should be tried for incompetence. He was a serving US officer, he obviously wasn’t nuts. This is a military court, he committed treason, execute the traitor.
Report Post »Old Truckers
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:10pmHow would you like to be the barber who is assigned to shave that flea infested beard?
Remember, you can‘t ’slip’ with that razor, or you could then get the death penalty for murder. Nice huh?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:31pmHow is it that his beard delayed the trial last month & the month before that?
He should have been to trial way before this.
Report Post »Patriot Z
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:46pmthats easy..no need to kill them…id just forget the shave and go for a wax. fing the biggest gayest hairdresser and give this mussie the brazillian of a lifetime
Report Post »FEMALL
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:06pmOne of the soldiers he murdered was pregnant.Why is he not charged with 14 counts? I say put the trial on hold until after November, charge him with terrorism and put him in general population at Leavenworth.
Report Post »JoJoStarbuck173
Posted on August 16, 2012 at 12:12amExcellent idea, and would end up saving the taxpayers a considerable amount of money and time on the appeals that he is sure to get after he is found guilty.
Report Post »ElChupaCabraDeUSA
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:03pmon second thought, I volunteer to remove his beard….with a ball bat
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:10pmHe should be forced to have a bikini wax all over his body…painfully slow!!!!
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:02pm“the judge, Col. Gregory Gross, said he could not accept a guilty plea on the 13 charges of premeditated murder. That‘s because the charges carry death as the maximum punishment and the government is pursuing the death penalty in Hasan’s case.”
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Couldn’t accept a guilty plea? How does a judge get to steer how the trial goes? If the defendant wants to plead guilty, why does a judge object? Personally, I think he should be put in front of a firing squad.
The-Monk
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:25pmHi Anonymous T. Irrelevant,
I think it has something to do with the death penalty can only be recommended by a jury and not a judge. So the judge wants a jury trial because the prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
Report Post »damnedifwedont
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:41pmI’d love to see Allen West in charge of this BS. Domestic terrorist? No way. Islamic TERRORIST
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 7:41pm@DAMN
Col. ALLEN WEST would be the MAN for this trial……OORAH !!
Report Post »I think Col. West did the right thing in Iraq.. saved some of his
Troops lives, by his actions, a true HERO in my eyes..Semper Fi..
ElChupaCabraDeUSA
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:02pmCan someone just give him a shaving cream pie in the face filled with NAIR?
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:01pmHang him by beard until dead
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:59pmi dont want him to shave..i want him to rot..bearded or not
Report Post »sgtbrown01
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:56pmLets get past this silly distraction the judge should simply sign off on a no shaiving “****” and get this prosecution done…..who cares if he has a beard….convict and hang this terrorist so we can move on to something more productive
Report Post »Old Truckers
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:56pmThis is really ridiculous, why does he even need a trial?
So many people saw him shooting his victims, and who cares if he is shaven or not?
Just let justice prevail for once without all the lawyer inspired drama.
The “justice” system is a joke as far as I am concerned.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:56pmJust behead the stinkin’ terrorist already – stop wasting time!
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:14pmDon’t be in such a dang hurry. First we need to give him an hour alone with Barney Frank. Then we cover him in bacon and booze and porn. THEN we hang him.
Report Post »ellietoo
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:53pmOh, wow. I can hear the White House screaming now! “What ever happened to religious liberty in this country?” Shave the guy and get it over with. The people who were slaughtered by this guy deserve better.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:51pmTRAIL?! Why waste our time and money? I don’t care if he shaves between now and when they stick the needle in his arm.
Report Post »Too_Far_Gone
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:58pmTake his whole head off and save a razor !
They’re use to that treatment, heII they made it a standard ..
Report Post »hayesstephen
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:07pmHe certainly deserves death no doubt about that. In his case keep him in prison for the rest of his unnatural life. I think he is paralyzed from the waist down. As Marshal Rooster Cogburn said, ” those boys can be pretty rough on you gimps.” I’ve probably misquoted him but you get the idea. To me to lose one’s freedom is far worse than death, living behind locked gates and doors is a living hell to me. Yahweh grant Paradise to all the dead, and comfort their families. Comfort, Heal the wounded.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:11pmHi Just…….I want him to get the needle NOW. This farce has gone on too long and Hasan seems to be running things, not the judge. Same as with the Gitmo prisoners.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 7:11pmAccording to a defense motion, Hasan indicated he wanted to plead guilty for religious reasons. Hasan, 41, is an American-born Muslim.
Report Post »But the judge, Col. Gregory Gross, said he could not accept a guilty plea on the 13 charges of premeditated murder. That‘s because the charges carry death as the maximum punishment and the government is pursuing the death penalty in Hasan’s case. Hasan also is charged with 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.
Grant his wish, accept his guilty plea and execute him! Don’t waste any more of the taxpayers’ dollars on a forced trial.
Nanaswords
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pmBeard or no beard … Get this person sentenced before O’s lame duck period !!! Do not want to see this one walk !!! There is no question as to his deliberate actions to kill our men and women at Fort Hood !!! Is this the same image as saddam hussein…for sure…Should end the same as s.h. did !!!
Report Post »sgtbrown01
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:50pmwe are both right on this one the beard is a distraction and a delay tactic,…… who is the prosecutor on this case “Barney Fife”…..get it done convict and kill this guy before obumer lets him off the hook.
Report Post »Ranger45
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pmInteresting….so this “workplace violence” was motivated by “religious reasons.” Smells surprisingly like jihadist terrorism to me.
I say sit on him and shave him with a dull blade.
Report Post »Steel Monkey
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pmHow about using bacon grease and a dull razor! He is a piece of **** and deserves nothing! If it was a Jewish rabb, they would cut his beard! Stuff a pork chop up his butt!
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pmHe is a (dishonorable) office in the military and MUST abide by the code of conduct over religion first, the beard comes off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Knock him out and shave it off !!!
Report Post »Too_Far_Gone
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:31pmHang him then shave it off ..
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:17pmIn G. Washington’s time, he would have simply been shot by firing squad. By the way, Mao or Joe Stalin would executed him. If you are military, no matter what side, an act like this man committed is not tolerated. Do you have to have a degree in law to see this?
Report Post »Madmilo
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:47pmTake a straight razor and shave it off right at the neck. (Head and all).
Report Post »Seth Patriot
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:50pmDamn. You beat me to it Milo.
Report Post »iampraying4u
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:52pmto beard are not to beard
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:45pmMission: Shave your Beard… Refusal to obey Orders: Execution!
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:44pmTrim it with a machete and then stone him.
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:54pmYou want to put a dent in the national debt? Sell tickets… the winner gets to shave him. I’m in.
Report Post »Champflyer
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:42pmHe didn’ have trouble shaving before he decided to be a cold blooded killer so take the SOB and cut his freaking beard off, and DAM his religion!
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:45pmI agree, cut his head off. Oh wait, you said beard didn’t you? That too.
Report Post »team1blazer
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pmAmen! Stop screwing around with this sorry POS.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:40pmhand cuff, sedate and dry shave this b@$tard….
Report Post »dman78
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:50pmdon’t sedate, shave him with Nair as the shaving cream and a rusty dull razor. strap his head down, we don’t what him to be cut, badly.
Report Post »Champflyer
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:51pmAmen, or use a Weedeater!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:53pmYes! Do it, shave the SOB, get him tried, convicted and executed. This has gone on long enough.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:56pmI should have also said – make sure the barber is suffering from the DTs…..
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