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Fox‘s Krauthammer Goes ’Hard Left’ on Domestic Drones: ‘I Want a Ban’

Charles Krauthammer Calls for Ban on Domestic Drones

The Federal Aviation Administration has begun rolling out its progress on domestic drone use rules and procedures, spurring privacy discussions. (Photo: Wikimedia)

With recent exposure of who is authorized to own and fly drones in the United States and a bill passed earlier this year opening up the sky more for military, commercial and private drone use, the Federal Aviation Administration has begun rolling out rules for how local law enforcement can use unmanned aerial vehicles. This has continued debate over what is considered an infringement on privacy.

And now Fox commentator Charles Krauthammer is weighing in, and his position might surprise you.

The FAA states on its website that its main concern is to “[streamline] the process for public agencies to safely fly UAS in the nation’s airspace.” Some of the recent progress the FAA says it has made includes developing a method to expedite the process for interested parties to obtain a Certificate of Waiver or Authorization (COA) to fly the drones; changing the length of authorization from 12 months to 24 months; and allowing law enforcement to fly a drone up to 25 pounds (the rule used to be 4.4 pounds) in controlled airspace within the operators line of sight.

(Related: Directive: Air Force can evaluate information about you collected by drones — if it‘s ’incidental’)

Fox News describes some of these actions as “taking a tool that has become synonymous with U.S. counterterror warfare in countries like Pakistan and Yemen — and putting it in the hands of U.S. law enforcement.” Although, it notes that drones flying over U.S. soil would not be equipped with weapons and would be used for surveillance only. Charles Krauthammer on Special Report earlier this week said he wants a resounding ban on domestic drone use.

“I’m going to go hard left on you here. I’m going to go ACLU,” Krauthammer said in the show. “I don’t want regulations. I don’t want restrictions. I want a ban on this.”

Krauthammer explains that he considers drones “instruments of war” and cites the Founder’s aversion to such instruments maintaining a presence inside the United States. He compares a drone to a high-tech version of an old army and a musket.

Watch the panel debate here:

Commenting off Krauthammer’s stance on domestic drones, Hot Air speculates that much of the negative reaction to drone use in the U.S. is over the “ick” factor that machines similar to those used against terrorists will now be increasing in our own airspace. It writes what really should be considered “icky” are privacy concerns. Hot Air also questions if drones will really be of value to law enforcement as other technology, such as cellphones and in-car GPS systems could be accessed by police following the appropriate legal channels:

If you have probable cause to find out where someone is, there are faster and more precise ways of finding out technologically than by sticking a camera a few thousand feet up. In fact, if Google’s self-driving car catches on, cops might eventually be able to remotely commandeer a perp’s car if necessary. In a world where, according to cybersecurity experts, there’s not a single unclassified computer network in America that’s secure from hackers, drones seem an odd place to draw the line in the sand.

Fox has more from those concerned about privacy infringement:

“Our Founding Fathers had no idea that there would be remote-control drones with television monitors that can feed back live data instantaneously — but if they had, they would have made darn sure … that these things were subject to the Fourth Amendment (protecting individual privacy),” Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, told Fox News.

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Lawmakers like Barton say there are “legitimate uses” for drones on U.S. soil, but that strict privacy standards will be needed.

“It would be okay for a drone to be used in order to make sure that all the cattle on a ranch are identified on an ongoing basis. It’s okay … to survey a forest to make sure there are no forest fires. But it would not be okay if that individual who purchased the drone then decided ‘I think I’ll go and check and see what‘s going on over in my neighbor’s backyard’,” Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., said. “That would be wrong and that has to be protected against.”

(Related: ‘Guerrilla-like police tactics’: First American arrested with aid of drone to appear in court)

According to the FAA, later this year it will release a proposed rule that would establish policies, procedures and standards for all the various users of small unmanned aerial vehicles, which it says “will likely experience the greatest near-term growth in civil and commercial operations because of their versatility and relatively low initial cost and operating expenses.”

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  • eramthgin
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:43am

    “HARD LEFT” my butt. Its a HARD RIGHT turn. The communists (oops progressives) want to keep an eye on everybody. It is the conservative that wants the government out of our lives.

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:52am

      My thought exactly.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:01am

      Much like the U.S. government makes claims that the air space over the U.S. is property of the the U.S. then that means the air space over my property is my air space and can only be used with my permisision. Any drone activity over my space is an illegal search. and a 4th amendment violation.

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    • Kevin The Elder
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:05am

      Amen brother!

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:32am

      I agree this is Hard Right. This is a constitutional issue.

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    • bobdog19006
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:42am

      I might have been OK with this if I had one shred of hope that government agencies would never abuse their authority.

      But then I remembered that I live in Chicago. Home of Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel, the Richard Daleys, Jessee Jackson, Jessee Jackson Junior, Dick Durbin, Jan Shakowski, Ray LaHood, Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, Rod Blagojevich, Tony Rezko, and Jeremiah Wright.

      Then I realized once again that we don’t live in a perfect world. When it comes to privacy, what little we have left is largely an illusion, not because of an evil plot, but because public officials are far less than perfect. Consider the widespread use of public surveillance cameras, stoplight cameras, now speed cameras, supposedly forbidden federal gun ownership records, the sale of drivers license records, warrantless “voluntary” vehicle searches, inspection of cell phones during traffic stops, sobriety checkpoints, license plate scanners, invasive TSA full body patdowns, “naked” body scanners…and those are just the things that come to mind. None of these were created with a nefarious purpose. But they can and have been abused.

      Now they want to expand the use of drones? As I write this, there are drones over the city of Chicago warming up for the NATO conference.

      In 2012, Skylab became self-aware…

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:54am

      And alot of leftist don’t realize the price of rolling over for the government in return for some handouts or just to vote D. You are right this is hard left not hard right. But the problem all democrats are left and far left and most republicans are left as well. To be a moderate in the current enviroment in D.C. is to be a leftist. As most of the government is left of center.

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    • scruffycat
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:32pm

      I can remember being a kid of 14 back in like 1969 Los Angeles floating around in an innertube in our big backyard pool at night watching both the city and county helicopters with their big searchlights flying around crisscrossing the cities, lighting up streets, backyards, people walking, anything moving outside after dark. They would hover over our pool and light it up if they saw someone out in it after dark, even though the pool was lighted, the patio next to it was lighted, and our parents were sitting there under the patio. “Just flip them off and they will go away” Dad would say. And this has been going on like that since then, so I don’t see what difference having full sized choppers constantly watching you versus small drones flying around watching stuff would be.

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    • JRook
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:40pm

      So Bush was being a progressive when he pushed through the Patriot Act. As insulting as the name of the law was.

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    • the_system_disconnect
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:41pm

      Amen, Keep the drones OUT of our air.

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    • RiseAboveThem
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:14pm

      Yeah really – I’m surprised at Charles. It’s been Obummer and his thugs that have gone after personal liberty with a vengance with their overbearing regulations, taking control of the internet, etc. etc.

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    • twowarvet
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:29pm

      Yes, isn’t it just classic how Republicans these days are so muddied in what the definition of conservatism is [to be read as "all over the map"!], that they can’t even properly identify Constitutional protections as being conservative.

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    • EndTheFedNOW
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:31pm

      Hard left? Whoever wrote that is a unAmerican neocon piece of trash. hafrd left. Ill show you hard left.

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:12pm

      @JROOK, Yup, and the TSA, DHS.

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    • ShawnB
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:43pm

      YEAH not just them (leftist, commies, ext..) There are so many republicans who are for this.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:27pm

      I agree with the Krauthammer. These NWO goons are so scared they are going to have trouble controlling us that they are going full bore to create Terminator-like, autonomous flying robots to hunt us down. These LEO freaks are enemies of the people. They love freedom, but only for themselves and their families. The rest of us are just here to work and to provide a source revenue. Our lives and the lives of our children mean nothing to them.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:43pm

      Republicans Heroes like Allen West, Bachmann, Marco Rubio, Mike Rogers, Eric Cantor and Paul Ryan all voted for the….

      Federal Aviation Administration Act
      National Defense Authorization Act
      Extension of Various Patriot Act Provisions

      Feeling like you been lied too? or do you feel safe now?

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    • mrsuperpat
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:14pm

      “THE BLAZE TAKES HARD LEFT”
      The blaze sides with leftist police state tactics over the Constitution

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:30pm

      @johnjamison: That’s only up to 500 feet. Otherwise planes would have to pay you for property infringement.

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    • Tabasco81
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:53pm

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7tavj7Jhko

      Senators Graham and McCain Arguing Over Killing American Citizens With Predator Drones (C-SPAN 2 Video Clip)

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 12:27am

      Finally, something to agree with that lefty Krathhammer about!

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    • okienoodlerfan
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 12:01pm

      WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE, AMERICA?! Shut this practice down NOW!

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    • yorkieczar
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 11:16pm

      I agree that headline was incorrect. Banning the government from taking more of our rights is not hard LEFT.

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  • constitutionaldirective
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:42am

    This is INDEED a CLEAR CUT violation of the Bill of Rights..

    end of debate.. end of story.. END of LIBERTY.. or pretense thereof!

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:03am

      They already use thermal imagining and enhanced audio to illegally monitor people. This is just more of the same trampling of our civil rights by the tyrant that is government

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    • okienoodlerfan
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 12:03pm

      Total ban — NOW!

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  • Mo Better
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:41am

    Be ready. Be prepared. Have a game plan.

    This tyrannical government is way past being responsive to citizen protest of any sort and well beyond caring what the neutered Congress has to say about anything. Suing and/or sharing your feelings with your Representative and/or Senator is a complete waste of time and energy.

    Self-help will be the only effective remedy. Be ready, be prepared, have a game plan.

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    • ConstitunalAmerican
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:08pm

      Neutered is an excellent word to describe many in Congress. They are do nothings on most things and Fast & Furious is one example. They won’t go after Eric Holder. Congressman Darrell Issa went around the Mulberry bush several times on Greta Sustern’s show avoiding the issue whether the contempt citation will go to the Attorney General or is it just talk. He says we are trying to work with the Democrats on the committee and give it a little time!!! What?? Its been well over a year. Where’s the snake venom used by Pelosi and Reid?
      To read the full article go to:
      http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2012/05/15/whats-hold-fast-and-furious-contempt-holder

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    • usedCZARsalesman
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 10:09pm

      Do you have ANY idea how hard it will be to keep your family safe if Ocommie throws a couple thousand of these in the air right after he declares martial law but right before WE THE PEOPLE have a chance to organize and de-thrown him?

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  • firemanfrank
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:40am

    Congress will love to be spied on by the drone police, they have more to lose than me , if they wanna watch me drinking beers while cutting the lawn, but they will catch congressman in far worse crap. Anything louder than a whisper is recorded thousands of feet away. That’s a drone the size of a football on top of the empire state building. You won’t have a clue, talk about breach of security, catch a politician with his pants down and you own him……

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  • dmehl0404
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:30am

    Now all we need is for the TSA to be in control of monitoring and flying them. They ARE responsible for the most intimate invasion of our privacy and our personal rights. It would just work out perfect for the government.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:38am

      They probably are already being trained for their usage; and soon enough I can see them being armed to the teeth for usage against American citizens without mercy.

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    • wdittgasn
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 3:08am

      SNOW I fear you are right…..Imagine when they put machine guns on them…..Like Krauthammer said they will make great targets for practice…. I can hear the rednecks now…..Hey Bobby thars annuderun!!

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  • The_Jerk
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:30am

    A ban on domestic drones is not left or progressive. It is American. We are living in a prison without walls.

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:53am

      Well it is progressive unless you can find justification for it in the Constitution.

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    • cgnick
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:29pm

      Drones are unreasonable search. Unless the cops have a search warrant they should not be using a drone to collect evidence against anyone.

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  • megarobryder
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:29am

    The drones are skeet in my opinion. Another extension of evil. I better not see one over my farm.Something is wrong when they feel the need for all this surveylence. They are like kids with new toys and we keep giving the money for them to go out and play. Take the candy away and send them to bed without any dinner……Of course they will be slipping out the window in the middle of the night. Simple reason & logic is totally gone with these people.

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    • Bangstick
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:10pm

      AT 30,000-50,000 feet, it is very unlikely you will ever see them but they will see you just fine.

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    • Bangstick
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:13pm

      Besides, are your Rights really being violated if you never know they are spying on you?

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    • laurencetribe
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:44pm

      Collectivist governments institute the best surveillance and prevaricators they can buy because they trust no one, believing that a large number of folks would willingly cut their collective throats for reducing their once envied independent nation into a land of the haves and the have nots ruled by distant elite leaders.

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  • dataway
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:27am

    Just put God back in schools and put 10 Commandments where everyone can see them and you won’t need all this technology! People are going berserk!

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  • bobdog19006
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:25am

    I don’t think Krauthammer goes far enough. I want a ban on all weapons issued to federal authorities unless they have a bona fide law enforcement role in their charter. I want a ban on state and local agencies routinely surveilling internet traffic at the drop of a hat. I want a ban on warrantless “voluntary” searches of vehicles without probable cause. I want a ban on ninja swat uniforms issued by every law enforcement agency in the United States. I want a ban on routine deliberate lying by police during interrogations. I want a ban on localized versions of the 4th and 5th amendments. I want federal laws like immigration laws to be either uniformly and justly enforced by the federal government or repealed altogether. I want judges who are unable to base their decisions on actual law and rule based on political considerations to be removed from the bench. More than anything else, though, I want partisan politics completely banned from law enforcement.

    And, I want a pony for my birthday.

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  • blaaaaackwoman
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:22am

    I propose that Glenn test out these drones by sending one under the desk when SE Cupp has her legs crossed up on the top of the desk.

     
  • observer48
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:21am

    Without qualification, I agree with Krauthammer. the very idea of putting drones in the air over our soil without cause is an infringement of our liberties.Do you really think whoever has those things up won’t use them to monitor you and me? How can we make even the slightest pretense to being a “free” country when there are drones in our sky? How much more power are we going to give the government before we realize we have empowered our own destroyer?

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    • Americanaiko
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:34am

      The Founders are rolling over in their graves. This is not “hard left”…this is “Hard Freedom”!!
      I could not agree with the good Doctor more…on any subject.
      This is about the essence of being an American.

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  • HorseCrazy
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:20am

    say no to drones say no to big brother. stop voting for tax increases for your local police department everytime their unions come with their hands out for more on the ballot and they will lack for money for these. starve the beast folks they need a wake up call. the lawsuits that are coming regarding these on the local state and federal level will further deplete the already broke government. no drones.

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:20pm

      I like it. I’d like to add hang any jury you find yourself on where they use drones, illegal searches, etc. as evidence.

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  • chips1
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:18am

    This is just horrible. I feel this will end up like using radar. The only reason it was used as a law enforcement tool was to generate funds. Police have been reduced to money collectors. In the old days, supervisors expected us to reduce crime and accidents. Today they accuse police of profiling. It’s a lie and is used as an excuse to control people. Goodbye Constitution. Hello marxism.

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  • psst
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:14am

    Why not give the populace some kind of ankle brace or an implant so the government will know our everywhereabouts 25/8.
    I would prefer some kind of implant that not only register your locations, but your bodily functions and health risks, right after the doc spank you on the kharse at birth.
    This implant can them monitor if yer maw is feeding you the right guvmint approved formula, or giving you too much salt, mebbe detecting too much candy in yer stool, check to see if yer fries are cooked w/ the guvmint approved cooking oil. How about if you’re kidnapped. Presto,immediately found, alive or dead.The pros outweighs the cons.The NWO/OWG is on the way. May as well git prepared ASAP.

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  • Individualism
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:10am

    Uh Oh a NEO CON thinks things are getting to NEO CON for him.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:18am

      you are an idiot. try using the brain in your skull to see throwing idiotic names out to define people does nothing but make you look like a tool. no one wants drones it unites everyone right left up or down.

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    • Americanaiko
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:49am

      All Conservatism is new to you. Or over your head.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:49am

      INDY. Hmmmmm lets’ see… a pic of Ron Paul as an avatar, Krauthammer being Jewish, the usage of the word “neo-con” (a couple times) can only lead me to believe that you are presenting a double entendre…

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:18pm

      Time2 “double entendre” LOL when they teach you army boys to talk like that?

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  • SunnyFLBeaches
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:09am

    I agree with Krauthammer. It seems like there isn’t anything anymore that was meant for good but eventually is used for bad. It won’t be long before these are used to invade privacy. It’s the nature of people to snoop, push their limits, see what they can get away with, rationalize… We didn’t need cameras on every corner, cameras on traffic lights, we don’t need this. It will become an invasion to our way of life as we know it. Just think of the possibilities these can be used for if in the wrong hands: spying, peeping Toms, goverment (local or national) watching, police invading our rights, it’s endless. Once they are allowed it can only go downhill from there.

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  • Mark0331
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:00am

    “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” April 17, 1787 Ben Franklin

    ………perfect quote regarding our society and how our ‘leaders’ see us….. Barry supporters, this is happening under ‘your boys’ watch…4th Amendment sums it up pefectly…

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  • haroldthomp1
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:58am

    Wow! a perfect tool for a terriost strike in the USA!!! Ban them in the skies over the USA. PERIOD!!!!

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  • kralspaces
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:55am

    How could this be hard left? Controlling the people is 100% socialistic, Hell, it’s darn right communism! He might be supporting Ron Paul next.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:55am

    He is correct! This is the beginnings of a slippery slope. I can also see it as a cost reducer as apposed to using manned helicopters…..

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    • GrumpyCat
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:33am

      I don’t see how a drone is any different than manned aircraft. If one can fly over, then so can the other.

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    • inblack
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:40pm

      @GRUMPYCAT

      Seriously?

      1) They have different names
      2) Manned crafts are manned
      3) Drones are not manned

      I’d think for an IQ over 50 this would be obvious.

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:55am

    Krauthammer is dead on right with his assessment of this. I heard him last night was cheering him on. I say that this is a complete violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

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  • Watcher1952
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:54am

    What they gonna do when we shoot the damn things out of the air……We have very little privacy as it is….

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    • LLATPOH
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:11am

      You know, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised at all if that starts happening. However, even aiming a laser pointer at a flying object will put you in the tank for quite a while – the FAA tends to lay the smack down on people that infringe on the rules, just to set an example.

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    • Dorugremon
      Posted on August 11, 2012 at 4:34pm

      A) Send you up the river for a very long time.

      B) Use this as another excuse to eliminate our gun rights.

      C) Arm the damn things and shoot back.

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  • Mike Benton
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:52am

    How are the drones any different from police cruisers? The very word “cruiser” means they are roaming around looking for trouble or they are strategically positioned to be able to respond quickly.

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    • kralspaces
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:56am

      You mean the police are profiling?

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:57am

      The drones belong to the military and are a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. Police cruisers and the police themselves are part of your local community and the states and local communities have the authority in accordance with the 10th Amendment.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:00am

      For arguments sake, I live on a 25 acre plot of land and you can’t see my house from the street. A cop can‘t come on my property just to see what I’m up to, but now he can fly over from the comfort of his desk and check things out with no warrant, just because he feels like it.

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    • LLATPOH
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:18am

      I like your point, GONZO, but what’s the rule on airspace above your property? Is it yours, or is it public space?

      An officer can gaze into your property from the road (and may or may not see anything), so why couldn’t a drone gaze down from above? Also, given the fact that the drone doesn’t have to be directly above your property, all they have to do is hover above a roadway to see in.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’m not disagreeing with your point, just not sure what the current rules are.

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:20am

      hairy head- what’s the big deal ? you sound like you are trying to hide some thing… don’t you know the drones are for your protection.

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    • chips1
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:25am

      GONZO:
      Don’t forget to use a helmet when you use your riding mower. OSHA will put you out of business.

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    • HKS
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:26am

      My question is, if they can fly over your property at will do you have the right to shoot them down? If not, why not?

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:31am

      Steely, I have an armed malitia with tanks man, keep it quiet.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:33am

      LL, These things are pretty cheap compared to a real helicopter. A fairly small but affluent town could afford to put a bunch of these up VS one chopper. Do you really want to live in a world where Big Brother watches your every move?

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    • LLATPOH
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:49am

      Good point, I don’t. :)

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    • SageInWaiting
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:14am

      GONZO, if I had 25 acres (or more), I’d like to have one to keep an eye on things. I guess this means the feds are eying limiting our use of RC aircraft… there goes ANOTHER hobby.

      BBQ (smoking a brisket) pollutes the air; charcoal is as dangerous as coal in CA. (Or is it that the lib vegan next door is jealous of the mouthwatering aromas?)

      Boating has become heavily regulated (zebra mussels, invasive water weeds, pollution)… granted, the first two are serious but the regs and inspections are still opportunities to look farther.

      Fireworks… (must be a terrorist in training).

      A GUN enthusiast??? (Must be a terrorist in training.) Archery… CROSSBOW??? (Those look as evil as a SEMI-automatic “assault” weapon.)

      Want to use an ATV? Ya, sitting in a canoe floating down a river sipping a “cold one” when a couple of these jokers is hopping from gravel bar to gravel bar is annoying and they don’t leave the place “pristine” (until the next flood rearranges all that gravel and changes the channel has it has for millennial) but these guys DO give you a good chuckle when they hit a hole and submerge the air intake in water… Again, if I had 25 or more acres or more, they’d be a necessary tool, especially to haul out that venison for the smoker.

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:38pm

      @LLATPOH: The bundle of rights that are attached to your property contains a number of items like mineral rights, right to private enjoyment and air rights. But air rights only extend to 500 feet which is why airlines can get away with flying over your house. If you rights extended into space you would be entitled to compensation unless the airlines were granted special privileges. But those privileges would have to be agreed upon by you.

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  • Mandors
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:50am

    Supporting and protecting constitutional rights is not Left or Right wing; it’s just right.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:48am

    I don’t think his position is “hard left” at all. It’s constitutional conservatism, which surprises me more coming from Kauthammer.

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    • Blazebanned
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:05am

      I agree with you Gonzo, but Krauthammer is more conservative than you might think,and many of his comments are based on law, usually constitutional, and being a realist.I dont always agree with him,but unlike Gingrich and odumbass, he is a lot of times, the smartest man in the room, like him or not.

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    • DSTSS2010
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:07am

      The “Lefty” part is; going to the ACLU. The ACLU will try to stop everyone, including the military, from using drones.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:25am

      Hey BB, I agree with you, but his unwavering support for Romney throughout the primaries was a bit much for me.

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