‘FrackNation’ Filmmaker Responds to Another Alec Baldwin Anti-Fracking Article: ‘Unacceptable’
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Actor Alec Baldwin has spoken out widely against hydraulic fracturing (fracking) — the process used to harvest natural gas from shale rock. In his latest, he writes a guest piece on the Huffington Post’s blog calling upon “Gasland” filmmaker Josh Fox to provide information so Baldwin can ”address the ‘deniers’ who have debunked his assertions.”
TheBlaze contacted another documentary filmmaker — Phelim McAleer — who is producing “FrackNation,“ a film that says it will ”tell the truth about fracking” and that McAleer says is nearing the end but is still in editing. His general response to Baldwin‘s assertions and Fox’s information: “where is the science?”
Fox’s response to Baldwin includes the following:
1- This 2009 piece from ProPublica that refers to a Garfield County, Colorado, study that contradicts certain gas industry assertions about methane in drinking water.
2- This 2011 report from Scientific American that describes significant aquifer contamination from fracking fluids in Wyoming.
3- A 2011 New York Times article that refers to the potential “first crack in the armor” of Rex Tillerson’s claims about fracking-related contamination.
4- This article from Food and Water Watch in April of 2012.
5- And this article from a March, 2012 issue of Rolling Stone.
Baldwin then goes on to acknowledge the arguments of the “deniers” — he realizes “not many minds will be changed here” — but calls out gas companies who he believes will leave states with abundant natural gas reserves after they’re done “blasting and pumping and contaminating” without water for “cooking, cleaning and drinking” when all is said and done.
McAleer first calls out the evidence Fox provided to to Baldwin.
“I won’t base the future of Americans …of all people who need energy on articles from Rolling Stone and ProPublica,” he said. “This is what we’re going to do in FrackNation, take all the scare stories to scientists. When you do that…it’s amazing how quickly these scare stories disappear.”
In July, TheBlaze reported a story from the Associated Press that revealed many scientists say the health and environmental concerns held about fracking lack scientific backing:
For example, reports that breast cancer rates rose in a region with heavy gas drilling are false, researchers told The Associated Press.
Fears that natural radioactivity in drilling waste could contaminate drinking water aren’t being confirmed by monitoring, either.
And concerns about air pollution from the industry often don’t acknowledge that natural gas is a far cleaner burning fuel than coal.
As for this last point, a more recent report released on Thursday of this week by the Associated Press had scientists attributing increased natural gas use to a drop in carbon dioxide levels to 1992 levels. Some health experts hailed this in the report as well.
McAleer though focuses on Fox’s claims from his most recent short film “The Sky is Pink” that contamination from fracking leads to breast cancer. Here‘s some of what scientists and cancer experts had to say in the Associated Press’ July report:
But researchers haven’t seen a spike in breast cancer rates in the area, said Simon Craddock Lee, a professor of medical anthropology at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas.
David Risser, an epidemiologist with the Texas Cancer Registry, said in an email that researchers checked state health data and found no evidence of an increase in the counties where the spike supposedly occurred.
And Susan G. Komen for the Cure, a major cancer advocacy group based in Dallas, said it sees no evidence of a spike, either.
“We don’t,” said Chandini Portteus, Komen’s vice president of research, adding that they sympathize with people’s fears and concerns, but “what we do know is a little bit, and what we don’t know is a lot” about breast cancer and the environment.
“It’s just really unacceptable that people are using the scare of breast cancer,” McAleer said. “It’s very nasty to use it unfairly and inaccurately.”
Here Baldwin is seen in June talking about the alleged link between cancer and fracking as well as his economic concerns about the areas affected by fracking:
McAleer said Baldwin is stepping up efforts against fracking as New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo approaches a decision on whether to allow fracking within the state or not. In June, Baldwin held a screening of “Gasland” in Syracuse with scientists and other experts on a panel. In a separate blog post for the Huffington Post, which he cross-links from Friday’s post, Baldwin writes he wants to “address the lack of caution of the Cuomo administration and its failure to present the facts to New York residents about the potentially staggering risks of the natural gas industry’s plans for the New York and beyond.”
These efforts could also be setting Baldwin up as reports have said he might be consider a run for mayor of New York City. The New York Times reported last week Baldwin would consider running but not in 2013 race.





















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mbriz
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 7:42amYa, that’s what you puppets need to do, support oil companies. I live near Youngstown, we never had earth quakes until fracking started. Given the chance, oil companies will destroy your community for their profit.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 7:57am“you puppets.” Let me guess, you an Obama Lefty . The arrogance and nastiness of the of the Left is always a complete turn off.
Report Post »obamapoop
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 7:59amActually, I agree with the anti-frackers with an exception. Regardless of medical evidence fracking is a bad idea because you are destabilizing the earth and bedrock under vast regions of peoples property. Just like I am not against coal per se but removing mountains to do it is not a sound practice.
Report Post »rickroland
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:03amEarthquakes happen all the time, whether you “feel them” or not.
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:41amInstead of “Gasland” it should be titled “Gasbag”-that goes double for you mbriz.
Report Post »Evil Bert
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:49amLook up your facts before espousing nonsense.
The USGS says that the region is no stranger to quakes, though they are indeed rare. Its website notes:
“The Northeast Ohio seismic zone has had moderately frequent earthquakes at least since the first one was reported in 1823. The largest earthquake (magnitude 4.8) caused damage in 1986 in northeasternmost Ohio, and the most recent damaging shock (magnitude 4.5) occurred in 1998 at the seismic zone’s eastern edge in northwestern Pennsylvania. Earthquakes too small to cause damage are felt two or three times per decade.”
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:44amThe universal slavers really hate cheap energy, it fires them up, they will lie, cheat, rob, kill to see their goal of universal slavery fulfilled.
Report Post »DrunkGOP_Hack
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:54amMB – You’re not only a mindless tool, but let me test you smarts.
That computer you are using, how many of the part are petroleum base or produced?
Here is another thing. If oil comes from fossils, HOW MANY DINOSAURS would there have to have been covering the planet to put fuel in your gas tank.
Take basic chemistry. Oil is carbon based. How is it that we haven’t used up all the dinos fuel yet?
Anyone care to disprove the biggest lie to all of us!?
Report Post »Zipit
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:58amI always turn to people like Alec Baldwin for true, reliable scientific information. Frickin Fracking expert!!!! Algore on global warming? Obama on economics? Hillary on foreign policy? Really!!!!!
Report Post »michael48
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:00ammbriz….burn wood, comrade…only requires 12 maybe 13 permits….he!!, you may be abe to eat by this time ..next year..
Report Post »myway
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:05amGet educated before you shoot your mouth off. Baldwin trying to look young is an idiot. Watch this video and see where earthquakes come from mommies boy! There is a reason we have earthquakes maybe spend some time using your brain other then taking it out and playing with it. Semper Fi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9s-NDXqi2U&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »mwhaley
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:20amMrbriz, you sir are an idiot. Frackies and Warmies fit in the same mold. As for your buddy Alec Baldwin. he is not supposed to be living in the United States. As I remember he was going to pack up and leave if GW was going to be president. But now I see the 99 percenter is working for evil Capital “what’s in your wallet” group pushing flier miles for the evil airline companies.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:30amYou had earthquakes before fracking….it’s just that you never paid attention until the enviromental idiots got in your head.
Report Post »strawberry411a
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:19amBull….lived in that area in the 70′s and there was a BIG earthquake back in 74. Quit your liberal lies and stick to facts.
Report Post »Zaggynuts
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:48amPuppets? Oh you must mean the kooks that follow baldwin’s OPINIONS as if they are scientific fact when they are anything but. Fracking hurts no one, this I have witnessed first hand; It doesn’t cause earthquakes, breast cancer, or any of the dribble that baldwin states. It is truly funny how these Hollywood actors believe they are intelligent, when most barely graduated high school.
Damn Nov. can’t come fast enough. After which we can clean house, making these liberal flat earthers crawl back under the rock the came from.
Report Post »Zaggynuts
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:52amOh yea, when everyone gets a chance watch the film “truthland” it is free to watch on youtube… here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTJaaeiuzSU
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:53pmMBRIZ… That is a lie…. The 1st earthquake I ever felt around 1968 was said to be centered around Ohio….. But Baldwin might be right,,, afterall, he’s probably played the part of an oil driller.
Report Post »RebelPatriot
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 6:22pmMost of you complaining about fracking interfering with your water might want to check and see where your drinking water comes from. Many are complaining only to find out their water comes from a resorvoir.
Underground aquafiers are located above the shale and unless they drill through the aquafier to get to the shale the is very little chance of the fracking chemicals or the natural gas seeping into the aquafier, it would have happened already.
You folks complaining are the same folks who willingly give up your rights after every false flag that is being created by the progressive socialist to scare people into allowing the government to protect you.
The government has already failed you. You are stripped search at the airport while illegals and drugs are freely transported across the border that our government refuses to secure. The one thing our federal government is responsible for under our Constitution.
Who are put in more danger by our open borders than we are from Fracking.
How many people have died from smoking? What has our government done to make that illegal? Pass laws to restrict where it can be done? Will you allow them to keep you from smoking in your own homes?
Wake up people, you are being manipulated by the media. Why does Alec Baldwin care? He has large investments in green energy. Look it up.
Report Post »brezzeone
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:05pmyou are a fool
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:28pmBaldwin should shut the frack up!
Report Post »Bigmac1947
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 1:06amStick one of those “Fracking Hoses” up Baldwins Butt until he blows.
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 9:40amYou will never reach these dogmatic freaks.
Report Post »If it’s right wing they are automatically for it – no thinking required.
Susie
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 7:22amYou’re kidding me, right ? Alec Baldwin. That anyone would listen to anything this slobbering, buffoon has to say on anything is absolutely beyond belief. Alec Baldwin – you’re kidding me !
Report Post »Hey FOX what’s next, Alec on The Five beside Beckel ?
castuslonginus
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 7:34amIt was a man with the last name Fox, not Fox news, other than that I agree with you.
Report Post »Shady
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:21amWe have a home here in Susquehanna County in Northeastern PA and I can see a drilling derrick from my Deck…The amount of economic activity is astounding and there has not been a single incident of pollution outside of a couple of spillage problems, and that is inherent with any economic activity…and they were all cleaned up…The economic benefits to the sand mines in Wisconsin and the guar gum growers in India is also astounding…And the gas…we can heat homes and power industry for hundreds of years. Frack away!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:05pmGiven a Herd/Pack of VelociRaptors… and one that goes around attacking others… Alec is nearing his end!
Report Post »22AUTOMATIC
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 4:16pmFracking is going to be one of the biggest saviors for America during the next decade. Next to the Iraqi Dinar RV it will allow us to survive what is coming our way. Well, that is if Mr.Obama doesn’t win. If Obama does win I don’t know. Below is a ton of info for anyone who‘s a nerd about these things like I am and want to know what’s going on behind the scenes. Note: You can ignore the “newsletter” sign-ups they’re offering – just extract the valuable information. Just another reason I believe Bush‘s policies will have saved our country when it’s all said and done. I love G.W.Bush the man and his character but he did let us down with never vetoing any democratic AND establishment Republican spending bills. He did 1/2 of the Reagan idea right. He did the tax cuts but not the spending cuts you have to accompany them with. Romney/Ryan will do both (combine each link below in your browsers)
http://pro.stansberryresearch .com/1202SCRTBUSH/LTWPN408/Full
http://stockgumshoe .com/reviews/12-letter/george-bushs-secret-retirement-legacy/
http://starcasm .net/archives/139865
Report Post »22AUTOMATIC
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 4:17pmFracking is going to be one of the biggest saviors for America during the next decade. Next to the Iraqi Dinar RV it will allow us to survive what is coming our way. Well, that is if Mr.Obama doesn’t win. If Obama does win I don’t know. Below is a ton of info for anyone who‘s a nerd about these things like I am and want to know what’s going on behind the scenes. Note: You can ignore the “newsletter” sign-ups they’re offering – just extract the valuable information. Just another reason I believe Bush‘s policies will have saved our country when it’s all said and done. I love G.W.Bush the man and his character but he did let us down with never vetoing any democratic AND establishment Republican spending bills. He did 1/2 of the Reagan idea right. He did the tax cuts but not the spending cuts you have to accompany them with. Romney/Ryan will do both
http://pro.stansberryresearch.com/1202SCRTBUSH/LTWPN408/Full
Report Post »guz75
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 6:32amI think this just muddies the issue. Regardless of who might jump on either side of this, or their reasons, this is about the people living on land near where these processes are taking place. The issue isn’t whose point of view is backed by science, but that there has been very little scientific research done to back either standpoint.
It‘s easy when it’s not on your doorstep to write it off, particularly when one of the many ‘liberal anti-christ poster boy’ types is connected to it, but if it were on my doorstep I’d expect to see more investment in ensuring the safety of the process and this investment has to come from the government and be independent of the companies using these processes.
There’ll will always be exaggeration and denial on both sides of an issue like this, but that doesn’t mean you can ignore the issue as a whole, as I said there are people that have to live with fracking on their doorstep and I don’t believe it is unreasonable that they should wish to be reassured (and a little less trying to scare them would be good as well).
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 6:20amAny ‘news outlet’ that would publish this drunk has no credibility. The Huffpo is not credible. (I know, a real shocker)
Report Post »castuslonginus
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:00pmBut he a celebrity,he has been schooled on how to pretend to be smart.
Report Post »BIGWUN
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:56amListen, conservatives. The Baldwin regs apply only to you. He needs abundant energy both to spread the word about the evil of right-wingers and to keep his bloated self-esteem fully inflated. You common people neither need nor deserve energy but you should certainly pay for it for as reparations for having earned your money.
Report Post »olddog
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:49amGet on your computer and surf the web about what’s happening in other countries, Spain, France etc. look at all the trouble and violence in the world and you will be able to tie it all to leftist,socialists and their ideas and actions… Baldwin is nothing more than an actor, not a scientist or oill man an actor when he acts like an idiot, well that’s him not acting..
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 4:54amIt seems to me that a “cause” is a necessary fashion accessory for the glitteratti. Sort of the cebebral version of the miniature pink poodle in the designer handbag.
Being an authority on the subject doesn’t seem to be as necessary as being clearly visible in “raising awareness”. One’s cause is something to talk about at parties, I suppose, and to compare with other’s “causes”. One’s sincerity, as with all sincere things in Hollwood, is measured in column inches.
It is all harmless enough, of course, until it detrimentally impacts on the lives of the general public. That is when the vapid waffle of these carefree poseurs becomes dangerous.
It was pointed out to Mr Baldwin that he didn’t leave the USA as he promised he would in his last little piece of theatre. He didn’t mean it literally, it seems.
He was just “raising awareness”.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 3:36amAlec Baldwin is a fracking idiot.
Report Post »Tigress1
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:16pmHe’s also a fracking hypocrite. He’s an anti-Capitalism, Occupier-supporting idiot who advertises for CAPITAL One. Hypocrisy at it’s best.
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 3:02ambaldwin has reduced himsrlf to nothing more than a progressive snot..who cares what this man child thinks.he,s only rubbing his nose in progressive arse …..he is factless in his claims…he doesnt deserve to be in the discussion…he has absolutely nothing to offer…fluke him
Report Post »Dave In Arizona
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:31amWell, who really gives a frack what Baldwin thinks?
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:27amThis jerk is allways looking for attention. I don’t think his mommy hugged him enough when he was a child.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:57amI think that Falcon Crest screwed him in the head.
Report Post »CK1911
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:23amAwec Bawdwin is just pissed he got replaced as Jack Ryan in the Tom Clancy movies. His man-breasts kept jiggling around in all the action scenes.
Report Post »Maxim Crux
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:17amI can’t stand this guy, but there are always consequences to screwing..Fking with things that are not fully understood. Fracking and the consequences of it are not fully understood nor predicted. If it becomes a regular thing around the world there are going to be negative effects to the planetary life. Anyone that thinks that extraction of energy in such a way does not have potential hazards is the fool that says splitting the atom and extracting energy in that way has no negative effects.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:52amHave to agree with you on that. Did some reading on the subject and have found that similar seismic activity is occurring near other fracking sites in Arkansas and Texas. In my humble opinion there should be more studies made by the oil companies and an ability to work hand in hand with the USGS. Okay, if the USGS is willing to work with them and not just screw with them.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:28amFracking has been used since the 50′s. Baldwin is not a scientist, but poorly plays one on TV
Report Post »SeekerEmerald
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:07amHe’s just doing what he does best: repeating things other people have told him to say. That’s what actors do. Unfortunately for him the ones he is repeating are all wrong.
If methane (natural gas) really does cause global warming (it doesn’t) and if it leaks out of the ground naturally (It does) then our best bet to combat global warming is to get it all out of the ground as quickly as possible, so it can be burned s fuel.
I’m being a little sarcastic here, but everything I’ve said is true. It really does seep out of the ground in many places around this country. It’s also called “swamp gas” because it emanates from lots of swamps as well as other locations. Google it, it’s true!
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 4:37amYou are quite correct, Seeker.
Alarmists seldom study the facts, which is the kindest thing that one can say about them, because, if they have, then they are being intellectually dishonest – as with global warming.
Remember the ozone hole panic? Chlorine, as in chlorofluorocarbons, denatures ozone. This is true. What was omitted from the arguement, however, was the fact that almost all the chlorine in the atmosphere comes from transfer of chlorine from the ocean’s surface. (Sodium chloride is salt.)
There was enormous economic waste around the world as governments responded by forcing the conversion of items using CFCs such as fridges, deodorants,etc. The amount of chlorine delivered to the atmosphere by these means, however, was so small as to be impossible to measure.
Later it was discovered that the expansion and contraction of the ozone hole is a normal, natural phenomonen.
And so it is, as you correctly point out, with methane.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 4:59amI might also mention that an idiotic amount of money was expended by my nation’s government in order to find a way to control the methane emitted by burping and farting livestock.
Sanity eventually prevailed, of course, but not before a number of unscrupulous scientists and their fellow travellers had filled their wallets.
Report Post »Belwraith
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:55pmDid anybody else catch that carbon is down to the 1992 levels? I mean…I thought that we were in a state of “global warming” or “climate change”…and that it was caused by carbon….so if carbon is down, how can we be still be in a state of “warming” or “change”? Hmmmm…..
Report Post »iwillnotbequiet
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:56amOh now I know..he’s the guy that just bought a new young wife…
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:16amYes, his “bought” wife was twelve when his daughter Ireland was born. Bought wife is closer in years to his daughter than bought wife is to Alec by 14 years. Seems that Alec really digs little girls.
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:55amJust because someone pretends to be something or someone, doesn’t mean that they really are.
This is obviously Alec Baldwin pretending to be a scientist again, just he has pretended to be politician before, but without the credentials.
Now I’m not a psychiatrist but I have read a few books on Mental Health and it sound like Mr.Baldwin may be suffering from a Delusional Disorder called Grandiose.
Grandiose: “A person with this type of delusional disorder has an over-inflated sense of self-worth, power, knowledge, or identity. The person might believe he or she has a great talent or has made an important discovery.”
I believe Mr.Baldwin may want to seek help from a Mental Health Professional…….
Report Post »iwillnotbequiet
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:55amWho???
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:52amAlec…. your meds are good, go back on your meds, its better for you and its better for the world, your meds are good Alec, put the pills in your mouth and have a glass of water, now go lay down until you’re all better again….
Report Post »team1blazer
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:42amAlec and Al Gore have it all figured out….how to fleece america
Report Post »mbriz
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 7:45amNo dumb arse, that’s the oil companies, what is wrong with you?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:00amMB: “you dumb arse”…Let me guess, you are an Obama Lefty. Never maturated over the wise- guy, junior high level BUT knows all there is to know in the world !
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:29amTeam1blazer is correct you’re the dumb @ss,Gore is a greedy bastard getting rich off the fraud he’s perpetrating and should be sued for fraud.
Report Post »TIME_THE_AVENGER
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:57amGore is a stoopid bastard too. He went to a ‘religious’ college and promptly flunked, I think it was 6 out of 8, courses in one semester. Even his people had a hard time gettin‘ him ’qualified’ for office.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:14pmYep..!
Report Post »endoftherepublic
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:35amI hope you choke in your sleep you A-hole!
Report Post »endoftherepublic
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:33amHey Alec, I remember seeing a movie where you proclaimed that “you are God”. Sorry, but you aren’t jack crap. You couldn‘t act your way around a parent teacher’s conference.
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:29am… and we should listen to Alec Baldwin because of his many years of scientific study?
Btw, Alec, you’re too old to spike your with hair gel. It just exposes how thin your hair is – all those nasty bare patches, and all.
Report Post »purecolorartist
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:27amHe is worse than a fracking idiot. He better take some geology courses or at least do some googleing to see what the real truth about this safe process is.
Report Post »oldasdirt
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:40amSomeone should remind Mr. Baldwin that after Solyndra went bankrupt on the tax payers dime,a hazmat
Report Post »team had to be called in to clean this GREEN companies properties.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:36amHey Alec, to ask you one of your own questions “Who’s in your wallet”.
What does Alec think we are going to do as a nation, for energy, hook a hose to his mouth and run our dreams off his hot air? Can we charge him a carbon tax for causing global warming from his nonstop running mouth.
Wait, wait, wait, oh, that’s right, he is an idiot, why do we care what he says. I am going back to the Playboy bunny being arrested. at least she isn’t shy about being stupid.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:36amThe first mistake you made is listening to Baldwin.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:42amExactly ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgj6NEk9xEw
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:08amEMO wins out over logic in debates Hollywood every time. Perception is reality
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