Frances Fox Piven Turns to UK Paper to Launch Broadside Attack on Beck
- Posted on February 11, 2011 at 12:31am by
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Regular viewers of the Glenn Beck program on Fox News Channel know the name Frances Fox-Piven. She is the surviving half of oft-discussed Cloward and Piven, and currently a professor at City University of New York. After many months of silence, Fox-Piven has suddenly come forward and is addressing the statements made by Beck, trying to diminish his theories. On Tuesday Fox-Piven used a British newspaper to attack the Fox News host and his audience, accusing them (and many Americans) of being racist and too dumb to understand how their government works stating;
“The strange stories that Glenn Beck creates with his chalkboard gain traction with Americans, who are made anxious by the large changes that have overtaken the United States, including the election of a black president and the increasing racial diversity of the population, deindustrialisation and the decline of American power abroad, as well as cultural changes in sexual and family norms.”
“Strange stories that Glenn Beck creates?” He is using your own words.
Mrs. Fox-Piven also wrote on the ability of the common man to comprehend what their government is doing;
“In reflection, contemporary government policy is also extraordinarily complicated and difficult to decipher. Healthcare legislative proposals run to many hundreds of pages, and the texts of the regulations to implement them are even longer. And none of this can be understood without a great deal of information about existing healthcare arrangements.”
Last year Congress worked very hard to pass rules for the banking and credit industry that would make their agreements with consumers simpler and easy to understand. Why can’t the same be done for the “extraordinarily complicated and difficult to decipher” legislation like the Healthcare law (over 2000 pages) or the almost 70,000 pages of the tax code?
Beck has frequently quoted from a 45 year old magazine article from Cloward and Piven, detailing in their own words, a plan to overwhelm the American Capitalist system and replace it with one that redistributes the wealth and basically guarantees all citizens an annual income from the government. Oddly enough, their 1966 plan for redistribution was basically a “no questions asked” and “no qualifications required” type of program where the guaranteed government-paid annual income must contain no demands on the recipients as it relates to potentially elevating oneself from poverty;
the right to income must be guaranteed, or the oppression of the welfare poor will not be eliminated. Because benefits are conditional under the present public welfare system, submission to arbitrary governmental power is regularly made the price of sustenance. People have been coerced into attending literacy classes or participating in medical or vocational rehabilitation regimes, on pain of having their benefits terminated.
What kind of horrific government would expect a citizen receiving benefits to learn how to read and write or, God forbid, learn a skill that might lead that person out of poverty and into self-reliance and possibly prosperity?
Last month, Mrs. Fox-Piven stepped back into the public eye, writing another article that garnered significant Beck attention, the second paragraph of the January 10th story titled, “Mobilizing The Jobless,” also referenced on the Glenn Beck Show, contained the following:
So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations, sit-ins and unruly mobs? After all, the injustice is apparent. Working people are losing their homes and their pensions while robber-baron CEOs report renewed profits and windfall bonuses. Shouldn’t the unemployed be on the march?
The attention paid to the Cloward and Piven strategy and the new article inspired a groundswell of response generating untold emails and phone calls sent to Fox-Piven, some of it reported to be extreme and (according to Mrs. Fox-Piven) included death threats. In the past few weeks, Frances Fox-Piven has decided to go public with these threats as well as respond to Mr. Beck. On January 24, 2011, she appeared on an MSNBC program hosted by Cenk Uygyur and delivered this bizarre response to the question about the threats;
The Beck audience is like much of America, generally hard-working, freedom-loving folks who want to be sure that their leaders support and defend the Constitution, while creating an environment that also lives up to the ideals of our Declaration of Independence, guaranteeing every citizen life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. (not a guaranteed income, just the equal shot at earning happiness)





















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Comments (311)
Lone Ranger
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:59amIf you want to upset a conservative, lie to him. If you want to upset a liberal, tell the truth.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:30amSO True!
Report Post »23
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:52amagree!
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:01am.
Report Post »Wow! – Simplicity itself! – Thanks!
rottimomrox
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:53pmA frickin’ MEN!!! I think I love U
Report Post »TpartyPatriot
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:48amand she teaches our kids….sad
Report Post »DVT
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:48amWell…frances foxy…if the shoe fits wear it! they’re your own words…address that will you? or perhaps you can do the US of A a favor and just give up the ghost,and take your radical friends with you!
Report Post »Pyx
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:46amFrances Fox Piven … perhaps it should be Francis. Look at the picture. Its a man, baby !
Report Post »Star Spangled
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:44amScroll to the button of the UK site to find more trash talk about Beck ( and his listeners)
Report Post »Remember this is a LEFT wing paper .
Here’s a Right wing UK site I like to read . http://www.telegraph.co.uk/
komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:57amWhat’s with these lefties going overseas to bash Beck? First it was Wallis, now it Piven…who’ll be the next lefty to bash Beck and the American people as stupid, ignorant, crazy, and/or racist to a foreign audience?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:26amIf we could get them all over there … it would be a good time to close our borders!
Report Post »dogden
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:39amBeck is good. Tells it like it is. Gives us facts to look up.
Report Post »Anderson Copper is normaly good at covering news but now he seems like part of the problem wanting Mobarac to step down and leave a leadership Vacume, easily radicalized in Egypt rather than an orderly transition into a peaceful goverment there.
*************
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:36am“Fox-Piven used a British newspaper to attack the Fox News host and his audience, accusing them and many Americans) of being racist and too dumb to understand how their government works stating.”
Finally, a story on this site that is true and accurate and not just fiction made up by a Wacked Out, College Dropout, Alcoholic and former drug abuser who has a fulltime psychiatrist assigned to him to prevent him hurting himself or others! Oh, and insures Beck takes all his medications. I guess this will be the last issue of the “The Blaze” source of creative fiction for the delusional masses.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:20amlol and you even make a bad tool
what a droll so disappointing, i was hoping you were intelligent, but i should have known better
TROLL
Report Post »Abby Normal
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:13amLOL, oil, you’re too much! and so off with you to Siberia to contemplate your words…that‘s what they’d do to you in Russia. I’m afraid it is you that is deliusional my friend, but hey, you keep your head in the sand, where it is all nice and cozy, k…I prefer the light of truth, as opposed to your darkness of lies…have a great day!
Report Post »rottimomrox
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:12pmAnd you are here because…
Report Post »Oh, wait, there ARE no intelligent, truthful, motivated, honest, Constitution abiding (and loving), Piven kissing leftwing MOONBAT (did I mention honest) sites for your pestilent mistress, and yourself to visit…
I guess we’ll let you play here. Read, listen and learn, young moonbat. You, too, will see the error of your ways and become a proud CONSERVATIVE.
dcwu
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:32amcommie
Report Post »fedlibertarian
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:31amOk finally watched the damn video… “Ughhhhhhhh…“ Long pause should be filled with ”engaging in violent civil disobedience, looting, rioting, killing rich white people and taking their money.“ Her brain clearly had a short circuit from her subconscious which was thinking ”wait I did call for violence, Glenn was totally right. Nuts!” Stank Goober looked like he saw a Big Mac; got a little tongue tied there. This “man” is an intellectual amoeba.
Report Post »mill
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:07amThese USA haters get all pushed out of shape…
Report Post »when Glenn Beck repeats their own words to them!!
he’s not lying..he’s merely REPEATING their own words!!!
1TrueOne55
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:27amShe must really love having to leave the US to make her claims. Is she so young that she is going to live long enough to see her dreams fulfilled, I doubt that. When you read history books they are filled with attempts to make changes to a culture of a country and it takes decades even centuries to fulfill. She will be dead and gone before the realization of these dreams.
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:57am.
Report Post »& let’s work hard to make certain her dreams are NEVER realized…
Don
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:24amIt will not be her who brings down the country but those who study her and her husbands books that will do her deed. We now have many people who openly advocate the overthrow of the government could this be because of the president? Can anything less be expected when the president associates with terrorists, communists and Marxists?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:23amI still don’t get it .. these people break law after law .. threaten the country with revolution and get away with it! WTF (to quote Sarah Palin)
Report Post »tbear44
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:31amLet ‘em have their revolution. They will find out real fast the good guys are mostly all armed!
Report Post »fedlibertarian
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:24amNearly impossible to imagine this wrinkled rag of undead flesh was once the half of an esteemed academic team which actively worked toward the same goal as Bill Ayers et. al., to try to bring down this country and create a Socialist paradise just like the one I escaped in eastern Europe. Thankfully her life was a failure. Now she calls out, one foot in the grave, screeching, trying to leave a legacy of hatred and rage in her wake. Clawing at those who’ve defeated her, like a rabid female dog. Few words can express the fate that I wish befalls upon this zombie and those of her ilk. Including the parasitic tub of lard giving her a platform. Long live GB; I will not abandon you. I am with you.
Report Post »Metalist
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:00amWell said my friend…. well said.
Report Post »23
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:38amhappy to have you here. You know what lies ahead. Keep talking my friend, keep telling everyone your story.
Report Post »shy
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:22amBeck must be very close to the truth to get this women so riled up.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:21amGood observation .. they always attack what they fear .. and the thing that they fear the most is the TRUTH! Glenn, Sarah, Backmann ,,, etc .. they speak the truth.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:29amoops .. tried to post without glasses .. .Bachmann.
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:54am.
Report Post »You‘d think she’d be more grateful to Beck… Few of us had ever heard of her before Beck gave her lots of free exposure.
Cherished Emblems
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:18amIf you think the Egyptian uprising is big…wait until the republicans show up in 2012!
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:07amStop belittling the plight of millions of people in Egypt, please.
Report Post »shy
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:17amFor this women to open her mouth. Beck must be geting to close to the truth for her comfort.
Report Post »MissCherryJones
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:16amIt still amazes me (and it shouldn’t) that people attack Beck for falsehoods and fantasies, when he uses their own words. Do they claim to be taken out of context? No. They just say he is making it up. Crazy conspiracy theories.
Report Post »Ok, maybe some of the things he says may be a bit far fetched. But WHAT IF?
I‘m just sayin’
LittleBigMouth
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:13amI think her hard drive crashed… The next dehydrated HippieBot will need more space.
Report Post »What a joke. This guy gets a show? They call this old bat Doctor? What in the world are we headed for?
Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:24amThanks for that one. I needed a good laugh. Yes indeed, her hard drive crashed alright.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:10amI got a news flash for you you old bag yes i am common i am a common patriotic American that will sacrifice safety for Liberty. So keep talking .
Report Post »awizard
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:15am“In reflection, contemporary government policy is also extraordinarily complicated and difficult to decipher. Healthcare legislative proposals run to many hundreds of pages, and the texts of the regulations to implement them are even longer. And none of this can be understood without a great deal of information about existing healthcare arrangements.”
Wait a minute … If “I’m” too dumb to understand the rules, how the h&ll am I supposed to “follow” them?..
Life CAN be pretty simple … If you let it be … I have found a place in this Great Country to thrive and prosper … and I would be/am willing to share the “secret” with anyone that will listen, or try to hear it … Avoid the “Government”, “work”, and don’t blame everybody else for your mistakes …
and destroy( not physically ) anyone that gets in your way …
This country was born on Individual creativity, Freedom and D@mn hard work … it will not be torn down by lazy, whining freeloaders that want to take what I have Built …
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:10amFrances, darling, we have spent more than 9 trillion dollars on the “War on poverty.” The more you subsidize poverty the more you get of it.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:09amHey Beck, bulling senior citizens is shameful, you should be ashamed of yourself. Why don‘t you pick on President Obama’s children again while you’re at it. You are going off the rails man.
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:24amSince when does quoting someone and revealing their ideas count as bullying?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:30amHey 13th, what in the world is “Bulling” ?
I keep telling you guys that education is the key.
Report Post »Okieflyover
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:31amBullying? With her own video, her own audio and her own writings? Wow!!! That’s a pretty weak argument, but I don’t see her addressing or touting what has she has said. Just lashing out at Beck for pointing it out.
Cockroaches always run from the light. I could at least respect her or Obama if they would just say what they believe and not what they think they can sneak by us.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:27am@ 13thGenerationNonAmerican
I have three words for you:
Hooked on Phonics.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 5:21amWe should sick Clinton on Beck
Clinton Kicks the Crap out of Fox News Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L2513JFJsY&feature=related
Report Post »VApatriot2
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:07amBullying her? Really. I think our history shows a time when enemies of the state and TRAITORS were dealt with in a more serious manner! Perhaps that method should be brought to light, yet again. Bullying is too good for her.
Report Post »sbleve
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:06amCuriously, did you have relatives on the Lexington green?
And another besides: Mr Beck has many times spoken of the innocents of children. Children are not cannon fodder, a parents public ideas and expressions are all debatable through exposure.
Report Post »BIGDAN63
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:54pmLMAO, 13THGENERATIONAMERICAN(IDIOT), I think its clear to see she can’t comprehend her own argument, or she is defiantly on set of Alzheimer. but its clear that she is trying to twist her own words to mean something else after she has spoken them. and for the death threats, she is truly delusional
Report Post »CountMeIn
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:42pmJust shows what 13 generations of in-breeding will do to the brain. This guy can’t seem to think for himself and lets the libs think for him.
Report Post »txmyrmidon
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 12:39pmWhen has he ever picked on Obama’s children? As a public figure himself he has said he would never want his children picked on so he would never do the same thing to Obama
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:49pm13, get a life. Come back to the thread when you have something coherent, relevant, and intelligent to say, namely an argument.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:07amThis woman is so very dangerous. She is Satan. I pray that she will go to her grave a failure and will never experience the satisfaction of bringing down the greatest country on the face of the earth. I try so hard not to hate our enemies but people like her make it very difficult. To think that our freedoms and rights have allowed her to become successful is hard to swallow.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:17amThey make it hard to be a christian sometimes but I always think this to shall pass but i will admit sometimes it’s like a kidney stone.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:38amPamelaKay,yes it is very difficult for most Christains to love our enemys,I to have problems with that one,I know the Bible teaches us to pray for those that despitfully use us, so maybe this works,Francis i pray that you will set down shut up and be a sweet old grandma for once in your life,
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:05amShe needs to “reunite” with her husband.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:13amSomeone needs to buy her some appliance which uses DD batteries
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:17amExactly .. my G .. these people her, Soros and the like … trying to destroy the country ..
hey FFP and Soros — most of the rest of the world is too your liking .. go there!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:18amJust drop a HOUSE on her!
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:29am@ Cheezwiz
At this point in her life I doubt that even a jackhammer would do the job.
Report Post »CanadianForGod
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:18amHow old is that hag? I‘m sure she’ll kick the bucket soon, Soros too.
Report Post »RAZIELCCCXVI
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:04amSo tired of the race card being played, Piven is just upset that Beck outted her out for who she truly is. This woman is the epitome of EVIL
Report Post »pakaeboiboi
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:30amAaaaah …… do I hear the Beck and Cry to canonize Francis Fox Piven??? as …… Saint Mother Santeria …. it just has a ring to it you know!!!!!
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:04amAre they sure she is still alive she looks like a zombie to me.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:17amScout, I love your handle.
But I cannot stand that sorry excuse for a human being!
Report Post »MOLLYPITCHER
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 7:20amI wish her God speed in joining her husband.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 7:39amFor a minute there….she fell into a zombie state….I think she realized what she was going to say…..Oh my!
Report Post »Tony Cat
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:22amLook at that still frame picture of her, and imagine her saying “Vader! Release him!” LOL!!!
Report Post »Mizpah55
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:01amIsn‘t it funny that Glenn’s “theories” are words right out of her mouth? Another Marxist who hates my country and needs to move to give into her inner self and move to Russia. I am so tired of these people attacking the truth. Go back to the Fatherland, Francis!!
cheezwhiz
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:17am“In reflection, contemporary government policy is also extraordinarily complicated and difficult to decipher. Healthcare legislative proposals run to many hundreds of pages, and the texts of the regulations to implement them are even longer. And none of this can be understood without a great deal of information about existing healthcare arrangements.”
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Translation from libberish to English :
Americans are stupid. Its no use explaining to them the awsomely awsome healthcare law. Its complicated. Maybe they’ll read a comic book.
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So now that a marxist has called Glenn’s audience “ ignorant” , “ racists” and “ homophobes” ,
does that mean the marxists are scared that Glenn’s audience are too well informed
which is making the comrades go nuts ?
komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:22am“submission to arbitrary governmental power”
Otherwise known as tyranny… in fact, “arbitrary power” is almost exactly the same phrase John Locke used to define tyranny. (I’ll look that up and get back with a quote.)
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:27amOMG, did she just have a stroke on live tv?
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:27amPlease before watching Piven , make sure there’s no kids around you , you don’t want them to get nightmares for the rest of their lives .
Report Post »She’s a freak .
Hey Piven there’s a lot of communist countries out there , just pick one & leave , it would be very hard to transform this country into a communist one when there’s prepacked communist ones .
komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:39amFrom the Second Treatise of Government:
“17. And hence it is, that he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power, does thereby put himself into a state of war with him; it being to be understood as a declaration of a design upon his life: for I have reason to conclude, that he who would get me into his power without my consent, would use me as he pleased when he had got me there, and destroy me too when he had a fancy to it; for no body can desire to have me in his absolute power, unless it be to compel me by force to that which is against the right of my freedom, i.e. make me a slave. To be free from such force is the only security of my preservation; and reason bids me look on him, as an enemy to my preservation, who would take away that freedom which is the fence to it; so that he who makes an attempt to enslave me, thereby puts himself into a state of war with me.”
“172. …Despotical power is an absolute, arbitrary power one man has over another, to take away his life, whenever he pleases. This is a power, which neither nature gives, for it has made no such distinction between one man and another; nor compact can convey: for man not having such an arbitrary power over his own life, cannot give another man such a power over it; but it is the effect only of forfeiture, which the aggressor makes of his own life, when he puts himself into the state of war with another: for having quitted reason, which God hath given to be the rule betwixt man and man, and the common bond whereby human kind is united into one fellowship and society; and having renounced the way of peace which that teaches, and made use of the force of war, to compass his unjust ends upon another, where he has no right; and so revolting from his own kind to that of beasts, by making force, which is their’s, to be his rule of right, he renders himself liable to be destroyed by the injured person, and the rest of mankind, that will join with him in the execution of justice, as any other wild beast, or noxious brute, with whom mankind can have neither society nor security.”
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:00amAfter all, the injustice is apparent. Working people are losing their homes and their pensions while robber-baron CEOs report renewed profits and windfall bonuses.
Report Post »—————-
These robber-baron CEOs, do they include people like Franklin Raines ? How about the execs of Goldman Sachs or Citigroup or Fannie and Freddie ? Are their bonuses justified ?
This bagabones is really really really bummed that there is no blood on the streets of USA and the communist revolution ain’t happening . She is getting restless. Just like Obama is getting restless that the revolution in Egypt ain’t happening the way he has fantasized about revolution .
She has fantasized about the revolution as it happened under Che and Mao and PolPot ,to happen in USA and she can almost smell victory now. ALMOST .
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:13am“The strange stories that Glenn Beck creates with his chalkboard gain traction with Americans, who are made anxious by the large changes that have overtaken the United States, including the election of a black president”
Not an issue. A lot of us like Allen West. Of course, he doesn’t see himself as a color, but rather an equal to his fellow Americans, and to the rest of mankind alike – rich, poor; holding a position of authority, or not. Piven’s views on race suffer from the same flaw as did the Weather Underground: namely, since skin color does not affect behavior, it’s not possible for the made up “class” of “white people” to be the source of any kind of racism – not even in theory.
Also, both Piven and the Weather Underground assume that it’s normal to come together over shared ancestry (to be distinguished from “culture”). What do I care that my great great grandfather was roommates with your great great grandfather? That says absolutely nothing about the two descendants.
Victims of the “tune out” era, I think. Their ability to think critically is severely lacking.
” and the increasing racial diversity of the population,”
Again, race doesn’t define people, so this is not an issue.
“deindustrialisation”
Anyone would be upset at government-caused economic destruction.
“and the decline of American power abroad,”
This is not an issue, either. Each country’s sovereignty should be respected. I‘m actually happy that China keeps violating America’s so-called “patent rights”, because rights are only secured by countries on behalf of their respective citizens. No one should pay attention to American patent rights but Americans; Same with China, India, and Russia.
“as well as cultural changes in sexual and family norms.”
Homosexuality isn’t normal. Piven needs to read this article:
The Meaning of Same-Sex Attraction
Report Post »http://www.narth.com/docs/niconew.html
WTH
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:31amBest plan to deal with this nutjob is to just out live her old ass!!!!!!
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:46am@komponist-ZAH,
Thanks for the John Locke quote. It seems to me he was a bright guy.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:21am“The strange stories that Glenn Beck creates with his chalkboard gain traction with Americans,
Report Post »——–
This coming from the woman who thinks that TEA parties are about sex
Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:26amLet’s not forget that someone on, Bill Maher or Jon Stewart (I think) said that Beck only had an audience of around 300,000. Hmmmmmm, makes me wonder why they are paying so much attention to Beck in the first place.
Are they wrong about the numbers, or just lying?
I’d say, just lying. Nothing new.
Report Post »wildbillsooner74
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:54amWoofta! Thats one Ugly Woman! I knew I saw her somewhere! She stars in the Zombie movies! “Hey Francis”, why don’t you load your ugly butt up and get out of America and go back to the communist hole you slitherd out of!
Report Post »ForeignWatcher
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:58amMan, i just cant stand the “in their own words” argument anymore. Whenever someone takes anything Glenn (or latly O´Reilly) said its “taken out of context”. And hey, there are quite funny and disturbing mixes of Glenns own words out there (check youtube) with him spewing vile hatred… But hey, out of context, mh?
Do you remeber the O´Reilly thing from way back then, about 5 days or so ago? Steward takes some Comments out of Context, Bill O. whines and takes his own comments out of context, gets put in place by steward (oh, you didnt see the end, did you? I think the blaze forgot to update this story with steward rebutal, but that is just a coincidence i think, mh?).
Videoprove means nothing the way Glenn uses it.
BMartin1776
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 5:44amExactly what is her defense? She didnt say the things we have heard and seen her say? She didnt write any of the things we have read with our own eyes that has her signature on them?
Do whatever you want lady to demonize Beck we know the truth. And the truth is you a threat to the sovereignty of this nation. You are playing a hand in inciting violence and dont you worry we and Im sure Mr Beck will do our d*mnest to dig up more material on you and expose you for the hardcore radical you are. Ya know just a few days ago the said he was concocting conspiracies about the middle east and now he has been vindicated… do you really want to “go there”?
Keep a close eye on her people and pay attention to whomever she goes to or comes to her rescue. It would not surprise me if ‘the don’ Soros comes to her aid through one of his shadow organizations.
Stand your ground hold the line, the radical animals are gearing up to engage us at the gates. 56 men, our Founding Fathers, had the guts to stand up and do what’s right, what about you? http://www.savingtherepublic.com
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 5:50amFellow Blazers…..was Obama at columbia when they taught there? Not that they needed to be the only ones at columbia with an Anti-American slant. I am sure there are others
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 6:06amIf what Glenn was saying was not the truth, you would not hear from these people, but Glenn is exposing them and their agenda and it is drawing them out to defend it.
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grandmaof5
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 6:24amI guess Americans are too smart for FFP so she has to move across the pond to see if UK is dumb enough to bite. I hope they don’t have a 1st ammendment there and they throw her a _ _ in the brink, along with the revolutionary spouting off, for trying to start a revolution. Beware London, I hear her yelling “fire” in the Parliament, and this is just the beginning if you don’t stomp on it now.
Report Post »Elev8n
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 7:01amWhat the he// happens at the one minute mark. It is like her internal lie machine shut down. He didn’t know what to do. LOL
Report Post »Elev8n
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 7:04amAt 53 seconds her internal lie machine shuts down. LOL.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 7:14am.
Report Post »A face is a terrible thing to waste…….
1911a1
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:09amthis woman is deranged ! she has lost her ever loving mind ! I guess if judging ones content of character instead of ones color of skin is considered racism, then we must be guilty
Report Post »SC Now
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:11amTo all of you:
The problem is that we DO understand what‘s going on and don’t like it. Has nothing to do with race, but it sure has to do with this redistribution idea.
Report Post »One other thing, I am upset with the Reps. Why can’t they just do away with the spending increases obuma put in place and then there will just be a 500,000,000.00 defecit?
chazman
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:16amWhen I look at this … thing, I see pure evil like I’ve never seen before.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:22amThere is no necessity to understand the details of tyranny to oppose it. Once the initiation of force against the individual has been identified opposition is the only rational act! http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »MHP
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:31am@Grandmaof5 @WTH
How bout the old hag lives in the local cemetary, she’s ready for it anyways of natural causes
Report Post »MHP
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:37am@CATB
Love that drop the HOUSE on her
Drop Obama’s House in Oak Park, Il right on top of her head
BOOM!!!!!!!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:49am@Cheezwhiz
In reading of your initial post here: The translation of yours from radical progressive linguistics into pure english is spot on the money. Fox Piven has proven to believe only in the ‘diversity’ of her own myopic vision of insanity.
These ‘broadsides’ of hers against us and Glenn are so much loud noise and special effects; we of the USA see truth for what it is, not the fabricated falsehoods of the progressives.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:53amSPANKDAMONKEY (funny name!), haven’t noticed any censorship from my seat. By the way, I think my other statement could actually go both ways.
Report Post »Abby Normal
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:54amWho cares about this old hag? She is not going to get the masses to rise up, she couldn‘t do it in the 60’s, she’s not doing it now! Her progressivism is a danger to America, but to cause riots in the streets? I don’t think many Americans would subscribe to that…
Report Post »bccrane
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:57amI think the shut down in the video was that she might have just realized why what she said about why aren’t there people in the streets protesting by now might have been construed as calling for protests and Glenn was right (the oops moment of now saying it on national TV)
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:05amWhat this “educated” fool of a woman fails to factor into human poverty is simply sin. Some people won’t work even if they could especially if they can just ride on the back of others (it’s called laziness, just to name one). She is an absolute FOOL !!!!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:07amSorry Mizpah55. There are more Marxist today in Ameria than in Russia.. I wish people would understand that simple point. The Russian people are not by and large given to Marxism. Their nation was hijaced back in 1917 just as plainly as America is currently being hijacked. The average American just like the average Russian disdains Marxism but the Revolution is top down and very well orchestrated.
Report Post »Bottom line is that Russia today is far more closer to what our Founding fathers had in mine than what America is today.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:59amOh come on folks. Doesn’t this seem to any of you like Beck is running around in his underware and a cape, desperately trying to find a supervillain to fight? He really needs one to pump up his freefalling ratings. So what does he do? He decides to obsess over an aging academic from Minnesota. What an evil mastermind?
And you folks eat it up–that’s the sad part. Despite what the headline wants you to think, no one here is launching a “broadside.” This is not actually a battle, as much as Beck wants it to be. Anyone who thinks that this a struggle of titans slugging it out for the fate of America has read far too many comic books. Beck is going to keep picking on Piven until he has to find some other target to pump up to supervillain status. And you mindless Beck-bots will follow. Very sad…
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:07am@ PUBLIUSPENCILMAN……..You are such a predictable liberal !!! Speaking of sad, it is demonstrating how many people like you think. It is demonstrating what is being taught to hundreds and thousands of minds in Universities. You are the idiot if you don’t think the heart of the next generation is won in the arena of ideas and in the classroom previously. Liberals are so weak !!!
Report Post »leftiesaredangerous
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21amThat old bag would have more of a problem with racial diversity than Beck fans.
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21amand just think!! 6 months ago,99.9% of American’s NEVER even heard the name Frances Fox Piven!! thanks glenn!! if it wasn’t for you,there would be millions of Americans in the dark about this “little known social professor” now we got millions of people buying her books and reading her articales!!! gotta thank you mr.beck!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:55amWatchTheOtherHand,
Report Post »I think your response was the predictable one. Let’s see: label the speaker a liberal and dismiss, regardless of whether anything “liberal” was said (check); Insist, like a rebellious teenager, that the speaker just “doesn’t get it” (check); repeat Beck’s argument (check); say nothing but vague generalizations (check); contradict yourself by saying that liberals are both weak, and in charge of a massive and dangerous conspiracy (check). Actually, the only thing you missed was that you didn’t turn my screenname into some infantile pun.
Outland9
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:37amThis is ANOTHER example of a commie/socialist/nation hating progressive liberal, who’s been plotting and planning to bring our nation down. NOW the sunlight is shinning on her and she doesn’t like it. These blood suckers live in the comfort of the dark, they lay in wait striking unknown and unseen. NOW is the time to “push the accelerator” and hit them even harder, put her words on the street, rinse and repeat until everyone knows what a seditious traitor these people are.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:56amBoy this old coot must think ALL people are as DUMB as she is.. guess she’s to old to know about the internet.. ALL recording devises and movie camera’s that are playing HER words Glenn is just PLAYING them back for us..wait until she learns about cell phones w/camera‘s and recording she’s going to just die..
Report Post »heyjim55
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 12:51pmMove to Russia? Russia isn‘t Marxist and hasn’t been in 20 years , may I respectfully suggest China.
Report Post »ANTISOCIAL-IST
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:33pmPubliusPencilman
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:55am
WatchTheOtherHand,
I think your response was the predictable one. Let’s see: label the speaker a liberal and dismiss, regardless of whether anything “liberal” was said (check); Insist, like a rebellious teenager, that the speaker just “doesn’t get it” (check); repeat Beck’s argument (check); say nothing but vague generalizations (check); contradict yourself by saying that liberals are both weak, and in charge of a massive and dangerous conspiracy (check). Actually, the only thing you missed was that you didn’t turn my screenname into some infantile pun.
pubie: liberal projection. check, check and check. you are so predictable. “hey, fellow, libturds, just tell them that whatever we do is really them doing it.” what a strategy! we’ve been on to you for a long time; you’re obvious; you’re predictable; and you’re boring. now, run along.
Report Post »Soldiers_Son
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:07pm@FOREIGNWATCHER
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:58am
“”Man, i just cant stand the “in their own words” argument anymore. Whenever someone takes anything Glenn (or latly O´Reilly) said its “taken out of context”. And hey, there are quite funny and disturbing mixes of Glenns own words out there (check youtube) with him spewing vile hatred… But hey, out of context, mh?
Do you remeber the O´Reilly thing from way back then, about 5 days or so ago? Steward takes some Comments out of Context, Bill O. whines and takes his own comments out of context, gets put in place by steward (oh, you didnt see the end, did you? I think the blaze forgot to update this story with steward rebutal, but that is just a coincidence i think, mh?).
Videoprove means nothing the way Glenn uses it.”"
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You are right, when the words are taken out of context they hold no value, which is usually what is happening when people quote Beck. Although, I will agree that it not always the case and he has said some ‘interesting’ things on occasion.
The difference is that when Glenn uses Piven’s own words he is quoting her from multiple sources over many years… and all saying the same thing! And this is the case when he uses “in their own words” arguments for most of his conclusions. He then gathers all the like minded people and shows how they all match by using what they all have said over many years and ties them together. This is how research and eventually conclusions SHOULD be made. And that is what Glenn does and has been doing.
To dismiss what has been said “in their own words” over the course of many years and in many venues is to dismiss the truth. Sound bytes on the other hand, that are used as a gotcha are bad when used by either side, and that is what Steward did to Bill O in that case, and it used pretty extensively by the left and by the main steam media as an attempt to discredit. But they cannot cross reference those statements over the course of a career thus proving nothing.
And in the end, if we want to get really technical, people’s words are for the most part hollow. People will say anything to get you to follow them. As a result you need to not only look at their words, but look at their actions too. And if you look at Piven’s actions they back up her words and show that the clips that Beck has been showing are not just idle words or sound clips to make her look bad. They are what she really thinks and is working to accomplish. And if we take the flip side of that, almost all the clips of Beck and others do not pan out and are being used to smear and discredit them so that people do not see what is really happening in america.
Report Post »ilovethiscountry
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:28pmNotice she whines (she is whining, I have children and can recognize it) about the article being 45 years old. She must still believe it or she would denounce it. There are thing I wrote 45 years ago and no longer believe. If you find them and bring them to my attention, I will tell you I no longer believe them to be true.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:09pmMonkey see as Monkey do.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:21pmWe don’t fear racial anything. But we will be one people or we will separate along political lines. We can not co exist with those who want special treatment and also whats in our pocket and yet have no tolerance for Western Civilization. You either Love America and her founding principles (ie the Constitution and Bill of Rights) or you will need to hit the road. Hit the road Jack and doncha come back no more, no more. Thats right.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:25pm@ PUBLIUSPENCILMAN…….Well I do have to hand it to you, I did get a laugh out of your response (good sense of humor). I really don’t want to be condescending so forgive my tone in the last response. My point isn’t that they are “in control” but you have to admit that there are way more left leaning liberal professors that hold positions in centers of higher learning. I think that is the point of exposing this woman’s ideology. Because if you disagree with here socialistic social justice views you do find it threatening as she is teaching many youth in here institution. Now I will concede most probably already agree with here any way. It’s not so much a single older woman as much as it is the battle of ideologies that she represents. Nonetheless, I appreciate your comments.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:27pm@ PUBLIUSPENCILMAN…..I think the tone of my first post was of the nature that it was because of the condescending tone I detected in your first post (no excuse I should guard it in me regardless). Just the reason it came out.
Report Post »sodizzy
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 5:00pmI just hope and pray (literally!) that all these nasty Marxist and anti-American types, Soros, Piven, the Obama cadre, get taken down by their own nasty efforts. Hoist by their own petard!! doesn’t that have a nice ring to it??
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:10pmIs it correct that he’s almost a year with no commercials (aka no sponsor support) in UK?
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:47pm@ForeignWatcher If she is being quoted out of context, you and any of the other progressives out there are more than welcome to put the comments and videos into context otherwise you prove nothing. If Beck’s context was incorrect I have not seen a word from the left regarding what the complete context is and how Glenn changed the “message”. Cough up some examples or go pound sand.
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