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Free Markets vs. Gov’t Intervention: Ron Paul and Paul Krugman Faceoff in Bloomberg Debate

Free Markets vs. Govt Intervention: Ron Paul and Paul Krugman Faceoff in Bloomberg DebateBloomberg TV hosted a live debate Monday between Nobel-prize winning economist Paul Krugman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul. If you’re not familiar with either of the debate participant’s economic positions, this is what you need to know: Krugman is an economist who advocates top-down government intervention in the markets and Rep. Paul is in favor of free markets with little to no meddling by the government.

“[Krugman] believes in big government…and I believe in very small government. I emphasize personal liberties. I don’t like a managed economy, whether it’s through central economic planning or monetary policy or even Congress doing it,” Rep. Paul said.

“It’s a completely different philosophy that markets are supposed to work, you know, in a natural way,” he added.

Krugman responded to Rep. Paul’s remarks.

“You can’t leave the government out of monetary policy. If you think we’re going to let it set itself, it doesn’t happen. If you think you can avoid the government from setting monetary policy, you’re living in the world that was 150 years ago,” Krugman responded.

“We have an economy in which money is not just green pieces of paper with faces of dead presidents on them. Money is a part of the financial system that includes a variety of assets — we’re not quite sure where the line between money and non-money is. It’s a continuum,” he added.

The two went on to discuss inflation, monetary policy, and, of course, Rep. Paul’s favorite:  the role of the Federal Reserve.

Watch the full debate (via Bloomberg TV):

“History tells us that in fact a completely unmanaged economy is subject to extreme volatility, subject to extreme downturns. I know this legend that some people like that the Great Depression was somehow caused by the government or the Federal Reserve, but that’s not true,” Krugman said.

“The reality is it was a market economy run amok, which happens repeatedly,” he added, “I want the market economy to be left as free as it can be, but there are limits. You do need the government to step in to stabilize.”

Krugman went on to defend his point by citing Milton Friedman, one of the most respected economic minds of the 20th century and a strong supporter of free market capitalism:

I want to say something about Milton Friedman here because if you actually read what he wrote in his writing for economists, as opposed to some of his loose popular writings, he actually said that the Federal Reserve was responsible for the Great Depression because it didn’t go enough.

Friedman’s complaint was that the Federal Reserve did not print enough money. I know this…The state of the economic debate in America right now Milton Friedman would count on the far left of monetary policy.”

But what, exactly, did Friedman have to say on the subject (at 1:50 mark)?

“The point is, the Fed does either too much or too little and they can’t do it. They don’t have a good record – they’ve ruined 98 percent of the value of the currency since 1913,” Rep Paul responded.

“That’s dishonest – that steals value from people. Why should people get 1 percent for their money for savings in the banks get it for practically free? Why did the Federal Reserve bail out the rich and not give the money to the mortgage holders?” he asked.

If nothing else, these are the points you should take away from the debate (via Business Insider):

  • …the two of them didn’t agree on virtually anything and mostly talked past each other.
  • Ron Paul said his goal wasn’t to end the Fed, but to create competing currencies. Basically he wants to end the Fed’s monopoly.
  • Krugman says that in the modern era, there’s no separating the government from monetary policy. And Krugman denied that he’s somehow anti-markets or anti-capitalism. But he says, depressions are bad things, and that they‘re bad for capitalism if we don’t intervene to fix them.
  • Paul says the worst problem in the economy is the debt because we’re wasting all of our money paying off the debt.
  • Krugman says trying austerity to cut the debt only makes the debt worse.

“In the end, it was mainly two guys who were talking so far past each other, there wasn’t much of a ‘debate,’” writes Business Insider’s Joe Weisenthal. “Think: Two boxers standing in the far corners of the ring: Nobody lands a blow.”

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  • Roo-Dee
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 2:59am

    There is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL I will ever vote for Obama. Which is EXACTLY why I will NEVER vote for Mitt Romney! Only Dr. Paul represents a change in the status quo. It’s so funny to me how some people are more worried about how we meddle in other peoples affairs instead of restoring our own.

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    • Naps
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 3:10am

      I’ll drink to that!
      Ron Paul 2012

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    • Shiroi Raion
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:34am

      Only a fool would vote for Ron Paul now. He has no chance and every sane person knows it. Either vote for Romney or start learning Mandarin. Romney wasn’t my choice in the primaries, but I’m not stupid enough to throw my vote away when it matters most.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:37am

      although mitt romney will be more likely to win, he does not even pay lip service to the constitution. and then there is ron paul who has small chance but his positions and record is outstanding. therefore, voting for romney is throwing your vote away just the same as voting for ron paul

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    • blanco5
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:19am

      sheroi—congratulations for letting the media think for you!

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    • jujubeebee
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:29am

      I like Ron Paul but feel we need to be realistic about his chances of winning and desparately need Obama out. I think the Obama people will be stealing the election through voter fraud anyway. I don’t trust the polls that put Obama ahead because middle class people are not for Obama. He may have the youth and the African Americans but I don’t think he has anywhere near the support that is publicized. The electronic vote will be manipulated. George Soros has his hands on that. Why else would he buy the company counting the votes and why is Eric Holder so against photo id. They are going to steal the vote. Fox news doesn’t go deep enough on some stories and is playing games with us just like the WWF wrestling is fake. We are doomed. I will vote and I do hope Ron Paul supporters hold their noses and vote to get Obama out of office just in case I’m wrong about the voter fraud. This is serious.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:59am

      Ron Paul won the Louisianna Caucus but nobody on MSM or on the blaze is saying anything about it.
      There is a chance and we will see you Obamney guys in Tampa. :)
      For Liberty! Ron Paul 2012!

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    • Listen_then_think
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:16am

      A vote for Paul is a vote for obama whether you want to vote on “principle” or not. The reality is if you don’t vote for Romney you ARE voting for obama.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:38am

      A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. They are the same whether you like it or not.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:45am

      And if Romney loses to Obama, was your vote for Romney a vote for Obama? Will you regret marginalizing Ron Paul?

      If Ron Paul wins the nomination, will Romney endorse him?

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    • sonnetswan
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:53am

      If Romney is the nominee he will lose to Obama.

      Help us Ron Paul, you’re our only hope. SERIOUSLY.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:56am

      So lets make sure I understand what you all are saying. As an American I should vote for someone that I adamantly think is a destroyer of the Constitution, Freedom and Liberty for the sake of the Party? Sounds a lot like Party Loyalty of old Soviet Union. I think my loyalties are with this United Stated of American not a party.
      Thank you very much.

      Ron Paul 2012

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:19am

      Listen all of you! It ain’t over til the fat lady sings. The only way that Romney is to this point is because of election fraud throughout the process. That fact alone should tell you what the GOP has become. Watch this thirty minute Reality Check from Ben Swan, a Fox affiliate anchor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=347BJLhZkE4&feature=youtu.be

      You have to skip through the commercials as it is the way it was broadcast. Sorry.

      Read this article from Boston Globe: http://articles.boston.com/2012-04-30/metro/31478610_1_romney-slate-mitt-romney-massachusetts-governor

      Paul is down at this point, but I believe he can get enough delegates to cause a brokered convention. He just needs enough to keep Romney from 1144. You will see in the Boston Globe article, that Paul supporters are picking up delegate spots on Romney’s bound delegate count. If it goes brokered, the second round the delegates can vote for anyone, and Paul supporters are the most loyal. Get it? Do not count Paul out. It is not over. Remember, Warren Harding in 1920, went into the convention with only 39 delegates and came out the victor, why? The convention was brokered, delegates were free to vote for whoever. They ended up giving the delegates needed to Harding on the 10th vote. I think Paul will get it on the second.

      Ron Paul 2012!

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    • kralspaces
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:22am

      The DialyPaul.com is the best place to get current and acturate information about Paul’s Campaign.

      Ron Paul 2012; Rand Paul 2016

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    • football lady
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:27am

      No way in Hell? But will not vote for Romney? In other words, because Ron Paul is out, you would rather the election to go to Obama than vote for someone other than Paul? For me, it is ANYBODY BUT OBAMA.

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:33am

      well Mcromney may win,but not with my vote. I don’t like the taste of my vomit.

      RON PAUL- I LOVE YOU BABY!!

      no cults
      no drama
      no sex scandals
      no B.S.
      What is so hard to like?

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:39am

      Football, In other words, you want to vote for the lesser of two evils as you are too selfish to do what is right for the country. Romney and Obama are the same dam thing. You guys want Obama??? Nominate Romney.

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    • JRook
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:49am

      Free Markets would be wonderful thing if they actually existed. Where Governments fail is in their so called free trade agreements which are at best one sided. Take virtually all of the so called free trade agreements the US signs. These agreements along with the most onerous government regulations that reduce competitive and free markets are those lobbied for by large corporations that really don’t want free and competitive markets. Right answer wrong question and focus. Start looking at why the wealthy and large corporations don’t want free and competitive markets.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:04am

      How’d that stimulus work out JROOK? Krugman says Obama should have put more money in it.

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    • FlamingFartSyndrome
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:06am

      A vote for Romney is a vote for a democratic president in 2016

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    • en2deep
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:25am

      RECOVERING NEOCON, What is a neocon? Please explain.

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    • circleDwagons
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:48am

      a Vote for Paul is a vote for Obama?
      a Vote for Romney is a vote for Obama?
      REALLY? what’s the point then?
      S.Y.G. a vote for romney is a vote for the statis a vote for obama is just pure evil
      Paul can still win the republican nomination.
      Without the pro-Liberty Paulies the GOP is dead

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    • 5hands
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:50am

      We,as a country have moved so far left, must realize that this ship of state is so large that it requires a slow turn to the right! It will only be accomplished with an elected moderate. Therefore, anyone,other than Obama is the correct choice! I trust the “silent majority”will demonstrate that come November! May GOD bless America again,for this I pray!!!

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    • KA-BAR
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:51am

      I can’t help but LAUGH at all you people saying a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama. Why don’t you sheep take a step back and look at who your voting for. Romney has flopped on not only HEALTHCARE (which you so adamantly oppose from Obama, but will gladly accept under a Romney Admin.) but he has not had a consistent position on THE 2ND AMENDMENT, ABORTION, or REDUCING THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT.

      If you believe the media when they say only Romney can win, then ignore the polls around the country stating the opposite, then you must be one dumb idiot. Look at the poll numbers when Paul is matched against Obama, Paul wins 75% of the time.

      Also, I love how everyone here claims Christianity and Judaism, yet, Mormonism is in no way shape or form either of these. If you believe God came down from heaven in a human body and screwed Mary in order to create Jesus who is the brother of Lucifer then sure, hes your man.

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    • shirleyandpearl
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:56am

      Paul won’t get Obama out, and a lot of Paul supporters are just democrats in sheep’s clothing, who hate O’s spending in middle east, but are still for the big gubberment agencies, such as EPA. That applies at least in progressive Seattle area. First thing is to get RID of Obama and his minions, for one, Holder! Romney and more R’s in congress are the best shot at getting our country back. The OWS-ers, unions, Screwie Lewie/ Black Panther followers and general PBS lefties can try to unite for 2016. Hopefully there is so much infighting, they and their value system disappear.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:38pm

      @shirleyandpearl
      Did you even read any of the posts above? ROMNEY IS NO DIFFERENT THAN OBAMA!
      R or D
      THEY ARE THE SAME

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:49pm

      @EN2DEEP, You want to know what a neocon is? Lt. Col Karen Kwaitkowski. Look her up and see if you’re not impressed with her credentials and education. She was in the Pentagon when the neocons took over. Listen to her story.

      http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2011/01/11/182-the-menace-of-neoconservatism/

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    • gunslinger454
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 4:05pm

      You may not like it–I certainly don’t–but your choices are either Mitt Romney or Barrack Obama, period. You can choose to sit home and not vote at all, or, assuming to stay in the race until the end, you can vote for Ron Paul, but face the fact that doing either one will have the same practical affect as voting for Barrack Hussein Obama. If you’re OK with helping Obama win, then go ahead; sit home or vote for Paul. It’s your choice, but come bitching to the rest of us when Obama finishes off the country!!!

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    • SquareHead
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 4:33pm

      Well said. Why give up the momentum for settling with Romney, which is like “Obama Light” I will vote for Ron Paul if it means I have to write him in….. Voting for Romney is like deflating the whole T-party movement, which is the only movement that can restore this nation. Obama in a second term with a more stronger liberty loving congress and senate, which will lead to grid lock, if not impeachment of Obama, and prosecution the Holder and the types like him. People must wake up and vote out their lame representatives, who’s voting record lead to this disaster. Many of the conservatives, being ignorant themselves thinks that the problems we face today only came because of Obama! As bad as he has been, we have decades of run away spending and loss of liberty. Much of the ignorance comes from listening to Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, and Fox News. Though I agree with them on most things, they all are partisan hacks, that excused Bush’s Socialist spending and his Fascist power grabs, through the Patriot Act, TSA… While he was doing this most of the conservatives where asleep and happy we had gotten rid of Bill Clinton, and that we did not have to endure Al Gore (Me included). The fact is that we would have been better of if Gore had won! Yes it hurts to say that, and it is not because of his brilliance, it is only because with him there would have been gridlock and we would not have had: TSA, Patriot Act, No Child Left behind, Light bulb ban e

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:27pm

      Gunslinger, the choice HAS NOT been made yet, did you even read my post and look at the links? Probably not as you just follow the lies the mainstream/lamestream media, Fox definately included, in making your decision. I will not let a handfull of elite so-called news anchors tell me what is what. They do not even have a clue on the delegate process or they are just blatently lying (probably the latter). When Paul supporters say they will not vote for Romney period, you should listen to them as they are passionate and loyal to the liberty movement. This movement is not just about Ron Paul, but will continue to the next election and the next election.

      You people sit here, with the knowledge of what is coming, and try to sway us by saying we will be responsible for Obama getting a second term? I say to you that it is you who will be responsible for Obama’s re-election for voting for a lefty with an “R” next to his name. We will vote for a true conservative as we are tired of holding our nose and getting the same thing every election cycle.

      Peter Schiff, you all know him from his business savvy to giving it to the OWS crowd. He endorses Paul and says the best way to fix the economy is voting for Ron Paul. Listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=yvEhQ48_BZk&feature=endscreen

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    • bigben357mag
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:30pm

      and you are part of the reason Obama will win re-election. to not vote for the best VIABLE candidate, is to not vote at all!! Ron Paul, is not a VIABLE candidate. While I agrea with SOME of his points, he’s dead WRONG on too many others!! I could never support someone who doesn’t see the threats around the world!

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:33pm

      I would rather the Conservative and libertarian people in the Republican party get Mitt elected and then pull him to the right, through lobbying for Cabinet members and through House and Senate legislation then to vote and LOOSE with Ron Paul…

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:01pm

      BigBen and VRW, Paul understands the threats around the world, quit listening to the media. He just wants us to go to war constitutionally where we can use all our might instead of having police actions where you have to wait til your fired upon before you can do anything. If the people say go and the Congress gives a declaration of war, Paul would not hesitate.

      If a candidate has to move to the right, left or center in order to win your vote, they are lying to you, period. You cannot change what is in a mans heart. This has always been the big lie from progressives, they tell you all these things they will do in order to win your vote, but after they are elected, they do what is in their heart, good or bad. At least with Paul, he is not afraid to tell the truth no matter how much you do not want to hear it. You know where he stands and that is lacking in our government.

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    • petersenonmain
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:36pm

      You should remember that a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama. That is just a fact. I would like top see Paul in the office but he has about as much chance as a snow ball in hell and we can not take a chance that Obama might win ,if we want a chance to vote in 4 years with more then candidate on the ballot.

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    • faithkills
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:44pm

      First off, if you wanted to beat Obama you should be pulling for Ron Paul, the only one who beats Obama according to polls. (don’t trust me, google it) Regardless this is the primary. So all of this teenage hysteria is premature. In November we will all eat our carp sandwich. And it won’t make any difference.

      To Romney supporters, don’t worry. Your candidate, the one selected by the media and the White House to lose to Obama, will almost certainly get the nod. Romney is intended to lose, and he will not disappoint. He is tailor made to have weaknesses that play directly into Obama’s strengths.

      There is a reason the MSM slams or ignores anyone but Romney. It is not because they want him to win. You guys need to think things through. Well it’s too late for that, and really too late for America.

      We will be given a choice between a socialist (Romneycare) and a bigger socialist (Obamacare), so we feel like we had a “choice”.

      The bigger socialist will win, as the MSM and the White house unleashes all of their research on Romney once the general starts.

      Short version. You got played. Again.

      The best thing that can happen is deny Romney as many delegates as possible so that a non Romney coalition might be able to hold Romney’s feet to the fire in Tampa and get real conservative concessions that MIGHT energize the conservative base. The conservative base who is NOT presently energized to vote for pro-choice, anti-gun, socialist, Romney.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:04pm

      Neoconservatism is a variant of the political ideology of conservatism which combines features of traditional conservatism with political individualism and a qualified endorsement of free markets.[1] Neoconservatism (or new conservatives) is rooted in a group of former liberals, who in the late 1960s, began to oppose many of the policies and principles associated with President Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs.[2] The term “neoconservative” was initially used in the 1930s to describe American liberals who criticized other liberals who followed a path closer to Soviet communism

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:47pm

      @soybomb315,

      “… and then there is ron paul who has small chance but his positions and record is outstanding …”

      See here.

      Actually, Mitt Romney is secretly winning a lot FEWER delegates than you think
      http://www.dailypaul.com/229934/actually-mitt-romney-is-secretly-winning-a-lot-fewer-delegates-than-you-think

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:05pm

      Tom Woods responded to hearing that Krugman claimed that the Fed didn’t create the housing bubble.

      See here.

      Paul Krugman: The Fed Didn’t Create the Housing Bubble
      http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/paul-krugman-the-fed-didnt-create-the-housing-bubble/

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    • resme
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:21pm

      @justangry, Karen is in my 6th district, I’ll be voting in her in june 6th ( Primary ).

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    • jimhill58
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:36pm

      Then you by your own admission are a moot point. I don’t like either candidate either but if you abstain from voting you are nothing. I will as usual vote for the lesser of two evils.

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    • mzk1
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 1:38am

      No, Ron Paul is not Obama. In many ways he is worse.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 3:56am

      Get ready for more QE as the Fed tanks the USD. Buy actual silver and gold: they are money, while paper is not.

      See here.

      US Treasurys Are ‘Junk’, Dollar Headed for Collapse: Schiff
      http://www.cnbc.com/id/47256715

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 8:35am

      I’m getting so sick of this “A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama”. Shut up!
      A vote for Ron Paul is exactly that! A VOTE FOR RON PAUL!
      It would be closer to say that a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama because THEY ARE THE SAME!
      Oh, except Romney is a good businessman. Give me a break…….

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 10:21am

      Waking, All these idiots that post on here, all these Beck idol worshipers, all these Liberals that think they are conservative are going to be sorry. That is all I can say.

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    • stevewedwa
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 11:00am

      Worrying about how we meddle in other peoples affairs instead of restoring our own is like rearranging the furniture on the Titanic when the ship was sinking.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 11:08am

      @West Coast Patriot
      I know. It really is sad. I read your posts and try to look at the links you post. I have done a lot of research myself and I never comment back to you because your arguments are sound.
      I have yet to see anybody post an honest argument back though. They only say that Romney is it.
      No questions to his past policies. No questions to his flip-flops.
      It‘s actually disgusting knowing that I am more in line with the Republicans than the Democrats but most don’t even know why they are Republicans apparently.
      They are starting to sound more and more like the left just throwing out baseless rhetoric without FACTS. When the facts are presented to them on a platter; they don’t even acknowledge them or they are scared to face them!

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    • dimitrisokolov
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 5:45pm

      If Ron Paul had any balls he would run as an independent or create a third party. But sadly, though many of his ideas are great, he is weak and spineless and will do neither. The GOP has treated him like a leper from day one and will continue to do so. Until he wakes up and realizes this and grows a pair, he will have zero impact.

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 3, 2012 at 12:45am

      @Resme, You’re lucky, man. I’m stuck with Stivers.

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    • stopspendingourmoney
      Posted on May 3, 2012 at 1:01am

      I am disappointed in beck he claims to be this constitutionalists and then then the candidate that is the most constitutional person running he does not support him like Ron Paul, I like Beck, but when it
      comes to this matter I feel like he is a complete hypocrite, Ron Paul 2012 or you can have obama=Mitt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38 I don’t think mitt would be as bad as obama but not much better he supports NDNA this is the most uncontitional bill ever, then he goes on to say if its in the right hands, it will be ok, what if its not Romney? what if its not?

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    • ehd
      Posted on May 3, 2012 at 6:29am

      riiightt….vote for ron and guarantee barack hussein obama is elected….i am not a great fan of romney..or ron paul…but, if either is the gop nominee…i will vote for him to get rid of obama….

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  • emty44
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 2:38am

    I would much rather be a Paulbot than a Romneybot or an Obamabot……

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  • Kerstile
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 2:26am

    Krugman: “History tells us that in fact a completely unmanaged economy is subject to extreme volatility, subject to extreme downturns.”

    Really? Not only does this man not know history, he doesn’t even know the present. What a hack. Nobel Prize winner? Worthless award except for the check they cut and that isn’t even worth much anymore because of what this buffoon sells. He’s a snake oil salesman. Pffft.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:18am

      Krugman is a COMPLETE idiot and on top of that a COMMIE B@STARD!

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    • Recceman90
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:28am

      I would have responded to Krugmann with how is Greece….they use your theory!

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    • stevewedwa
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 11:02am

      The government managed economy is how we got in this mess in the first place.

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  • ignatzk
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 2:17am

    For a moment I thought that was Ernst Stavro Blofeld with the cat.

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  • MS-GlenNBC
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 2:04am

    1. Romney vs. Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IWDJEc92d38#!

    2. Gingrich vs. Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiaw0hgB-fg&sns=tw

    Which one is Most like Obama?

    1. or 2.

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    • THXll38
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:53am

      Damn . . . I knew this, but it is funny (not really) how they sound pretty much the same. Like I said before, nothing but the status quo.

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    • Enough is Enough__Oath_Keeper
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:02am

      Both of them!! They are both Progressives! Gingrich & Romney

      I will vote for who ever the nominee is because OMG

      I hope RP beats Romney in the delegate race. I definitely have some different views then RP. But I would take him over Romney any day!!!

      Having said that: You RP people that will refuse to vote for the nominee Shame on You!!! Are you are going to do is turn more & more people away from having anything to do with his views in the future.

      If that view was going to work it would have the last time he ran in 2008

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:18am

      Romney supports NDAA.
      Ron Paul supports liberty and the Constitution.
      Hard choice to make?…..

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:36am

      Enough, If you continue to do what you’ve always done, you will continue to get what you’ve always got. What people at this juncture should do is stop going along with the status quo elite progressive thinkers and vote for Paul instead. Knowing that it is a fact that the majority of Paul supporters will not, and I mean will not vote for Romney, should tell you, you are barking up the wrong tree with Romney if you want Obama out. Romney cannot even get more than 600 to maybe 1000 supporters at his rallies. Paul brings in thousands everytime. It is insane to continue with a candidate that will not win as he will not get enough from all sides in order to win. You can spout a vote for Paul is a vote for Obama all you want, it will not make a difference. The difference needs to come from the people who do not understand the gravity of our situation yet. This is all the people who get their news from Fox, MSNBC, CNN and the rest of the lying elite media.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:40pm

      MS-Glennbc, You have done a great job promoting Newt, but alas, he is bowing out. We would love to see your passion diverted to Ron Paul, the only true conservative, liberty loving, constitutionally sound candidate left in the race. I know that Paul said that Newt was the best out of Romney, Santorum and Cain, and who knows, maybe Paul would look at him for VP. Maybe, as Newt agrees that the FED needs to be audited and that is one of the biggest things that Paul wants. What do you say?

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  • Shiroi Raion
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 1:52am

    They spoke past one another, but Ron Paul sounded more logical and more for freedom while Krugman took Milton Friedman’s words out of context which makes Krugman appear dishonest. Like a boxer placing a roll of quarters in his glove, Krugman fought dishonestly. Ron Paul wins.
    Sorry, Ron, but my entire family will be voting for Romney.

    Obama
    Must
    Go

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    • Bill Brasky
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 2:39am

      Romney will not win, he’s not supposed to. Even if he did, nothing would change. You and your family need to get your heads out of the sand, pronto.

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    • chewfatlip
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:32am

      “Get your heads out of the sand” and do what? Vote for Paul? Someone who doesn’t have a chance?
      A vote for Paul os a vote for Obama.

      Nobama 2012

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    • Kenny_in_Indiana
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:48am

      Well put Chew. The people we are begging not to vote for Paul are the same ones that didn’t learn their lesson last election. They tell us to get our heads our of the sand, but they will waste their vote by “making a statement and voting for Paul” at a cost to all of us. They vote for Paul, and O’Bama wins. How do I know this? It happened four years ago. I don’t like Romney, but he isn’t a socialist. He isn’t a conservative nor a reformist, but he isn’t a Euro-socialist.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:18am

      Romney is going to win in a landslide people. I was a Newt supporter and never cared much for Romney but, he has all but won the nomination and he hasn’t run back to the center-left like I figured he would. In fact, he’s sounds more conservative. I believe we have, Santorum, Gingrich and Paul to thank for that. I hope the GOP gives Ron Paul his props at the convention even though, I’m definitely no Ron Paul guy. But, I LOVE hearing him talk economics and the Fed. Fix the GOP from withing. It’s happening but it takes time. Dick Luger, Orrin Hatch is in a fight for their lives against Tea Party candidates. Eric Cantor may be next along with my congressman, John “Cry like a woman” Boehner.

      It’s not even going to be close. (As long as Romney continues talking about conservatism)

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:08am

      We haven’t made it to tampa yet folks. Lets see what happens there, then we’ll talk about the main event. Until then quit listening to MSM stating he doesn’t have a chance when he is winning delegate after delegate after delegate.
      A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for liberty. A vote for Ron Paul is not a vote for Obama.
      A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Ron Paul and nobody else.
      Quit picking the same old deal GOP and maybe we wouldn’t be so adamant about the one guy that is fighting for our freedoms.
      Romney supports NDAA! That in and of itself is enough for me not to vote for the guy and there are other issues he falls right in line with Obama, Clinton, Bush, Etc.
      We need the Constitution back before it is too late!
      I want to be an individual and not a proletariat!

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:02pm

      I don’t know… When I hear people say they support Romney, I think

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlg45UcomRI&feature=relmfu

      It’s just how I take it.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:51pm

      JustAngry, That video actually brought tears to my eyes.

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:58pm

      It‘s why I’m angry, man.

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    • P8riot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:29pm

      @JUSTANGRY –

      I don’t know if you guys served in the military during wartime, but I did and this video does not speak for me, nor most of the guys I served with. I fully support Mitt Romney and trust me, I am not secretly saying “*@#k the military” – quite frankly – its insulting. I had to leave my loved ones for very long periods of time, but I knew that I was doing it to help protect the helpless. To me, what would really be saying “*@#k the military” would be to tuck-tail-and-run before the job is really done – thus wasting all that precious blood.

      Just another perspective on that one.

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:54pm

      @Patriot, I did and have PTSD from it.

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    • P8riot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:08pm

      @justangry – thank you for your service as well then. I’ll keep you and our other brothers still suffering in my prayers!

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 10:31am

      P8triot, U.S. Navy veteran here, and you go ahead and vote for Romney. He will be a disgrace. You will allow someone who does not truly believe in the second amendment, never served , and kept his sons from serving, all for what? To do the same dam thing that other progressives have done? You do not think too much for the constitution in my view. A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama as they are both the same.

      Mitt Romney is supported by the same corrupt global elite corporations that back Obama as they do not care which one is in, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Credit Suisse, Powerhouse Waters, etc…. That is who Romney will be beholden to. Pauls top supporters are the US Navy, Airforce, Army, Marines and individuals. I believe that being beholden to our military and citizens is a much better place to be in.

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  • Naps
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 1:51am

    Ron Paul…the only GOP candidate with the balls to debate this hack on live TV. Unreal that the majority of America is so dumb not to support him. But hopefully? Delegates,delegates,delegates. Brokered Convention here we come.

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  • resme
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 1:23am

    Ron Paul for the win.

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  • JRW
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:51am

    Paul will lose. Get used to it!!!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:58am

      @JRW

      Romney, Obama the Same?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38

      I’ll cast my vote for Romney if he becomes the GOP nominee, knowing full well that HE WILL LOSE against Obama, and knowing that the Establishment gave us another McCain ensuring Obama wins. JRW you’re no one special. Your arrogance is pathetic.

      What many people still don‘t know about these DelusionalSelfRightouesGOPwaterCarriers is that they don’t know what it means to support a political establishment. To them, it means a lifetime of complete allegiance and devotion, no matter what and NEVER, EVER question anything it says or does. Indeed, exactly like Communists!

      I stand with our Constitutional Republic. It’s still the primaries, and I will not support that self described moderate and progressive.

      Mitt Romney admits he’s PROGRESSIVE
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvx7qLtrPkk

      Romney said, “I’m a big believer in getting money where the money is, and the money is in Washington” youtube.com/watch?v=bM_si-JVfhI

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    • Naps
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 1:29am

      And if he does? We will lose our Bill of Rights
      Ron Paul 2012…..Like a BOSS!!!
      I’d like to see Romney have the balls to debate this liberal yahoo on live TV

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:10am

      How can you convince me to support anybody else?
      What does Romney say is wrong with big government? Anything?
      Why does he support NDAA and the FED?
      Why does he support un-Constitutional WARS?
      Can you give us some reasons to support Romney?…… ANY?…..
      And don’t tell me because he is a good businessman. SO IS BILL GATES! Do you know what he believes in?….

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:36pm

      You know, I find it amazing that people on here ignore us for the most part because we are for Paul. I think that most on here just sit around watching the MSM reports and think they are gods in their reporting. It just amazes me that people can be led astray so easily.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 8:45am

      @West Coast Patriot
      I agree. And where are the counter arguments? There never are any!
      Only,
      “Ron Paul won’t win.”
      “Anybody but Obama.”
      “Romney has the only chance.”
      They never even think into the arguments for Romney. I have asked several times on this site for somebody to convince me. Convince me that he supports the Constitution.
      Convince me that he is for liberty. Convince me that he is not like Obama.
      THEY CAN’T. His record is all the convincing I need!
      Why can’t people see through the MSM even when most say they despise it?!
      It’s lunacy! I’m the crazy one though because I want somebody who takes their oath seriously.
      If it weren’t for Ron Paul; I never would have cared. In my eyes they have always been the same.
      Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Obama, Pelosi, etc. They have always pushed their Utopia on us. Utopia leads to totalitarianism. Why can’t people see that?!
      It’s sickening knowing that we have probably the most honest guy ever in Congress running for President and we spit in his face.
      The U.S. no longer understands what it took to gain it’s liberty and I guess now is as good a time as any to remind them. The U.S. Constitution cannot take much more of a beating before it is gone completely and with it our LIBERTIES will be lost.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 10:35am

      Waking, You are exactly right. I will leave the GOP after this year as I do not want to be in a party with so many brain dead people. I cannot put my faith in them as they are just like liberals anymore. I hope the GOP falls on its face and is no more.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 11:15am

      If tampa turns out giving it to Romney; I too will leave the GOP.
      I hope we can make it to 2016 and possibly have Rand Paul with a new party.
      We need a new part since the GOP has no issues with following the same path as the DEMS.
      I wish I were born in a different era. The braindead U.S. citizens have no clue what they are asking for. They have no clue what “Utopia” really means.

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  • TRILO
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:31pm

    Ron Paul is the only candidate that gets it. Not only does he get the destruction of this country through the Fed, our monetary policies and debt he is the ONLY candidate that understands our drastic and rapid loss of freedoms.

    If you did not get a chance to watch the first hour of GBTV today everyone who calls themselves a conservative should. The reach of our government in the active spying on every American citizen is frightening. And our great and conservative Republican party just passed CISPA in the House making it even easier. Something Romney supports.

    We are living under Soviet style government tyranny. It is a very sad day in America.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:18am

      Don’t forget, a drone will be coming to a city near you, very soon. No kidding here.

      “Drones will certainly have a purpose and a reason to be in this region in the next, coming years,” said Fairfax County Police Chief David Rohrer on WTOP’s “Ask the Chief”. “Just as a standpoint as an alternative for spotting traffic and sending information back to our VDOT Smart Traffic centers, and being able to observe backups.”

      Their great excuse for these drones will be “traffic”. Pretty much the same tactic Congress uses with the “commerce clause”. One step at a time, our rights and privacy will be destroyed.

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    • JRW
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:38am

      Financially he gets it, but foreign policy is his demise as a candidate. Mitt 2012!!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:45am

      @JRW The MSM is lying.

      Paul said, “We should be [Israel's] friend and their trading partner. They are a democracy and we share many values with them. But we should not be their master. We should not dictate where their borders will be nor should we have veto power over their foreign policy”.

      Paul was in Congress when Israel bombed Iraq’s Osirak nuclear plant in 1981 and was among a very few, unlike the United Nations and the Republican administration during that time, that defended its right to do so.

      Paul in the NH debate said he doesn’t want Iran to have a nuke. Senator Rand Paul said of his dad, “[he] doesn’t want (Iran) to have nuclear weapons, he thinks it would be destabilizing for them to have them, but he thinks there needs to be a healthy debate in Congress about what our response should be.” Paul has repeatedly said that if we want war, we should declare it, fight it, win it, and come back home. No nation building.

      James Madison said, “The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature … the executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.”

      Paul said, “I’d ask for a Declaration of War, and then it would be all out.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATmU

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    • colt1860
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:50am

      @JR Paul supports Israel right to exist and defend itself. The MSM is distorting his views.

      Former Israeli Ambassador to the UN, Dore Gold, said, “Israel never asked the United States to risk the lives of American troops to defend it… We don’t want American troops or any other troops defending Israel. We want to fulfill the doctrine of the founder of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, of self-reliance– that Israel defends itself by itself. And what we ask for from the United States is diplomatic support so we can maintain that position.”

      Paul states that “the surrounding Arab nations get seven times as much aid as Israel gets and also a recent study came out that showed that for every dollar you give to an Arab nation it prompts Israel to spend 1.4 dollars.”

      Paul said, ” We have adopted a foreign policy that has left Israel surrounded by militaristic nations while undermining Israel’s sovereignty by demanding that its foreign and defense policies be essentially pre-approved in Washington. That is a bad deal for Israel, as sovereign nations must determine on their own what is a most appropriate national defense.”

      I have confidence in our troops and patriots to protect and defend us, we’re the greatest military in the world. There is no need to empower liberals in congress with unprecedented powers to go after our enemies. I don’t want an ever growing federal Government that disregards the Constitution and ignores our Republican form of Government.

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    • Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:58am

      Mitt Romney has ZERO chance of winning in November…

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    • Shiroi Raion
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 1:32am

      There’s zero chance that anyone in my family will vote for Obama. Most of my family has never voted before, but every one of us in every state is going to vote to get Obama out of office and that means every one of us will vote for Romney and I have a HUGE family. I don’t think mine is the only family that is going to vote for the first time… we vote for freedom, justice, integrity, the free market, The Constitution… we’re voting for everything Obama stands against.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 2:39am

      Meanwhile, back to the problem…

      All western countries have to grasp the nettle and reduce debt, balance budgets, and promote growth.

      It is going to hurt like hell, but it absolutely must be done. The longer the evil day is put off the worse the pain will be, and the longer the recovery will take.

      This is going to take real political courage. Will Mr Romney step up to the plate, once elected, or will he place this dilemma into the “too hard” basket and leave it for someone else to fix.

      One thing is certain, the clock is ticking…

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    • Naps
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 3:04am

      JRW….Stop listening to the talking heads on TV who keep telling you the Big Bad Muslims are coming to deep fry your children. The only threat to America is our debt and the destruction of our currency. Beck,Rush,Hannity etc. All have a hidden agenda. To blow smoke up your ass. Ron Paul 2012….To finally make our Gov’t trustworthy

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    • Kenny_in_Indiana
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:34am

      Living under Soviet style tyranny?????? Perhaps you should read just a smidgen more on what Old Russia was like. I am not sure there is any parallel at all.

      I hate the direction this country is going, which is still in the way of political correctness. Until someone has the balls to say what he stands for and doesn’t buckle under media pressure, we are all going to get politicians that use sound bites out of context and talking points to try and convey anything that seems like a cognitive, independent thought. But fear of public ridicule and a lack of a spine will always trump anyone that is running for office.

      Ron Paul speaks to what he would do in office, like getting rid of the Fed. HE HAS to have help from the public opinion zealots in Congress in order to get something of that magnitude accomplished. The first step we all need to take is look at our Reps and Congressmen, get the government reformers in, then get a president that will finish off the task of true government reform. Everyone read these posts today should make sure legislators such as Dick Lugar (Senator from Indiana) are evicted and new reform blood is elected. Stop worrying about Romney v. Newt v. Paul and start at the bottom. Everything in the world grows from the bottom up. We get Congressional pressure to influence the White House, we all win.

      START LOCALLY. LOOK AT WHO YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR AND START GETTING THE JOB DONE FROM THE GRASS ROOTS UP!!!!!!!!

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:24am

      You Paul guys are killing me. I watched EVERY debate except 1. (I have no life) You are trying to tell me I didn’t hear Ron Paul say multiple times that if Iran wants a nuke, he doesn’t blame them because America threaten Iran? He’s said this over and over. You can pretend like he didn’t or spin what he says but regular people understand english. If Ron Paul was half the Hawk his supporters make him out to be, I wouldn’t have a problem with his foreign policy but then, I hear him talk…….
      Ron Paul for Treasury Secretary or Fed Chair

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    • Kenny_in_Indiana
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:50am

      Here here Squid. I have said it before and I say it again, Ron Paul has great government and economic ideas, but his foreign policy is absolutely ridiculous and downright scary.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:16am

      Yeah, A Constitutional foreign policy is very, very scary. Have you ever seen a map of Iran with U.S. military bases around it? There are more than a few. Also, do you understand the history of the middle east and the colonial masters that have meddled in it for the past 100 years?
      Do you think they hate us because we are rich?
      We even now have the people of south korea and japan not liking us as much because our empire expanding into their borders for years and years.
      These are all sovereign nations! What part of that don’t we understand?
      Let them try to make their move and we would be able to mobilize our military so fast we could wipe out Iran’s military in 48 hours.
      So scared of the boogeyman in the middle east we will allow our freedoms here at home be taken from us. We are begging for our freedoms to be taken from us. Protect us big brother in the name fighting “terror”.
      NDAA is about as bad as it gets and we are busy worried about the middle east. We deserve what’s coming…….

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:50am

      Squid, first, you have a hard time understanding what truly intelligent people are saying. Second, the media’s questions to Paul in many respects were to try and get him. Paul is smart enough to understand why they want what they want, and also smart enough to know what they can accomplish and what they cannot without outside help. He also knows that for Presidents to say, “I will go over there and bomb those people for you so we make sure they are not building weapons” is against our rule of law. The Constitution. Paul would not hesitate to go to war with Iran if the people said go and congress gave him a declaration of war. Get real with your MSM talking points from a bunch of elite status quo celebrities.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:04pm

      @SquidVetOhio I watched every debate also. Paul did NOT say that. Paul was referring to hypotheticals. For example, what person wouldn’t want a million dollars? What nation wouldn’t want a nuke? If you’re the US, and Canada, Mexico, and Honduras all have a nuke, or are capable of developing one, wouldn’t you want the US to have one too? THAT’S what Paul was trying to explain. However, he does NOT want Iran to have a nuke. That much is clear, and has been drastically distorted by the MSM. Granted, Paul did not make himself clear, AT the debates. However, I have listened to MANY of his speeches, wherein he has more time to talk, and he definitely wants the US to defend it self and REMAIN militarily (and economically) powerful against our enemies. I’m not spinning it anything here. That’s looking into things yourself (homework), and not just basing your conclusion on 30 second soundbites, mostly directed by the MSM’s predetermined questions aimed at maligning folks.
      Paul has REPEATEDLY said, that if Congress determines that Iran is a threat to the US, and that if Congress writes a Declaration of War, that he as President WILL GO TO WAR, FIGHT, WIN, COME BACK HOME, and LEAVE OUR ENEMIES UTTERLY DESTROYED. NO nation building. Sounds good to me.

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  • 2smart4libs
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:30pm

    El Krugman How about you kick your salary over to me. I know better than yiou how to spend it. Whats wrong you dont like that idea?? Neither do the hard working Americans you and your kind steal from evreyday

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  • SgtB
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:19pm

    I maintain that Krugman needs a lead implant in his left ventricle.

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  • cous1933
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:12pm

    It will feel good this November to vote for such a good man for President. Of course I realize that the good feeling is only temporary because Obama will be announced as the winner that night. That outcome is beyond my control. But I so rarely get to vote for an honest, decent, conservative that when I write in Ron Paul, I will know for a fact that I voted for the best candidate by far.

    Partisan Republicans – Don’t blame me. You are the ones who will be voting for a bad candidate.

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    • JRW
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:40am

      Mitt 2012!!!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:51am

      @JRW Please take a look at this video exposing Romney:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38

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    • Naps
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 1:31am

      Mitt “Ken Doll”Romney ……ooh,he’s so sharp.
      Ron Paul 2012

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 3:49am

      Ron Paul 2012

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:21am

      @JRW
      Might as well say NDAA 2012!!!!

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    • cous1933
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:43pm

      Colt,
      That is an outstanding video. First time I’ve seen it. It illustrates perfectly what we’ve been saying all along – that Romney and Obama are the same.

      Every time anyone on The Blaze posts the nonsense accusation that “a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama”, all Paul supporters should reply with the link to this video.

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  • Sue Dohnim
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:09pm

    Keynesianism is socialism, centrally planned “price” of money and Friedman, who was brilliant in some areas underestimated the corruption and failure of central planners.

    Friedman was a “soft” Keynesian,,,

    Hayek explains Freedman’s Keynesian bias though they agreed on many other things

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXqc-yyoVKg

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    • Sue Dohnim
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:55pm

      typo.. Friedman

      Here Milton Friedman explains his view on inflation and underestimates the expansion of Federalism and predicts that its expansion would be a disaster. His views were assumed an adherence to a Constitutional Republic with checks and balances and that has been subverted.

      So, Krugman like all socialists has distorted context and neglected the Federalism of today,, far more powerful, larger, unaccountable, indebted and a greater part of the economy. .

      Friedman agreed with Central Banking and inflation but did not believe that the system would become so corrupted. It has.

      Milton Friedman – Money and Inflation (Q&A)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hlpDxdbj5w

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:13pm

      Great stuff, Sue.

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  • EndTheFedNOW
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:06pm

    Ron Paul is stacking up those delegates! He won Iowa,Maine,Nevada,Washington. But Karl Rove and the republican establishment stole it. WHATEVER. He wins by injecting real issues. The liberty movement is growing. The ideas of true free markets. The idea of getting out of these endless wars. No more crony capitalism.

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    • mrsuperpat
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:12pm

      They haven’t gotten away with it yet, there will be a huge delegation of Ron Paul supporters in Tampa and they are determined. If he gets say Texas and California delegates(not the Straw Poll Crap the media pushes as results) it is over for Romney.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:28pm

      He won LA also.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:27am

      The Truth About Delegate Numbers In Iowa and Minnesota
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxTkS24gXQ

      Ron Paul Wins Louisiana Caucus
      http://www.therightperspective.org/2012/04/29/ron-paul-wins-louisiana-caucus/

      Ron Paul Wins Massachusetts Delegates in District Caucuses
      policymic.com/articles/7650/ron-paul-wins-massachusetts-delegates-in-district-caucuses

      The Marxist MSM will blackout any candidate that stands for free markets and the Constitution. Once again, they’re hiding the real numbers.

      The MSM is LYING. Ron Paul is drawing massive crowds across the States. (Youtube it)

      Ron Paul Attracts 3,000-plus Voters to Town Hall Meeting in Houston

      Ron Paul Attracts 1,200-plus Voters to El Paso Town Hall Meeting

      Ron Paul Attracts More Than 6,000 Voters to Austin Town Hall Meeting

      Despite Downpour Ron Paul Draws 4,300-plus to Rally on Independence Mall in Philadelphia

      Ron Paul Attracts 2,300-plus Voters to Event in His Former Hometown of Pittsburgh

      Ron Paul Attracts 4,400-plus Voters to Ithaca, New York Town Hall Meeting

      Ron Paul Attracts 2,000-plus Voters to University of Rhode Island Town Hall Meeting

      Ron Paul Draws 3,000-plus Voters to Fort Worth Event

      Ron Paul Attracts 3,000-plus Voters to Texas A&M Event

      Ron Paul Draws 3,600-plus Voters to San Antonio Event

      The list goes on, and on…

      The MSM and radioheads are lying to you America!

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    • JRW
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:47am

      Hahaha….you paultatds are so delusional. You hero does not have a chance in hell. Get used to LOSING. MITT 2012!!!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:54am

      @JRW It looks like you have nothing informative or productive to offer. It’s still the primaries. The MSM is lying about Paul’s chances. They’re against real candidates that stand for free markets and constitution.

      Romney and Obama the Same?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 1:53am

      @jrw

      What is really funny is you really dont know how the system works. The delegates are all that matter. Look we understand you want to continue to destroy the country and be a slave to the globalists. We just dont want it.

      Obama/Romney vs Paul

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    • Churchill
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:13am

      JRW, Why are you voting for Mitt? You do realise the same people that funded Obamas campaign are funding Mitt?

      The guy has flip flopped on every single issue, he has no core beliefs, no patriotism. What does he stand for?

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:36pm

      JRW, You see, this is why Ron Paul is doing so well in the race for delegates. This is why over half the delegates that Romney has that are bound to him on the first vote are Paul supporters. Where you do not have a clue about how the primary works, Paul supporters have learned the process, they have learned how to use the rules in their favor, and they are not just sitting around listening to the media tell them who is winning, as the media is wrong. They get out and are active in the process and are gobbling up the chairs, even at the state level. Even if Romney wins, Paul supporters in the next election will have the control needed to squash the GOP and change it for the better, back to doing things the way the Republic is supposed to do things. We will win either way.

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  • mrsuperpat
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:01pm

    Romney supports this Krugman crap. Look at this fool in this video stating in almost the exact same words regarding major policies as Obama. Good thing Ron Paul is actually winning the delegates despite the Romney(lesser then two evil) fools
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38

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  • escape_from_socialism
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:47pm

    How difficult is to understand free market? Free means, free from government intrusions.

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    • EndTheFedNOW
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:23pm

      Did you hear them talking about how much debt is to much? Krugam was talking about 130% GDP to debt is FINE! Lol smh

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  • Alucard
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:44pm

    Krugman is an idiot. He loves Keynesian economics but only uses half of the equation. Its because of people like him that we are in the mess we are in. You can’t spend at full speed during the good times and the bad times and expect it to just magically fix itself.

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  • KidCharlemagne
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:44pm

    Krugman certainly has a warped mind:

    “But he says, depressions are bad things, and that they‘re bad for capitalism if we don’t intervene to fix them.”

    That’s about as stupid as saying that gravity is a bad thing and that somehow we must find a way to eliminate the laws of gravity….

    In the world of financial instruments, then for the vast majority of securities the old saying that “what goes up, eventually comes down” certainly applies for the most part (with very few exceptions). However, folks like Krugman don’t subscribe to this though and they have absolutely convinced themselves that if you simply print enough money, then you can avoid the eventual crash.

    That just makes the eventual crash all that more disastrous though when it does happen (and it will).

    Unfortunately, recessions/depressions are just natural occurrences of capitalism‘s business cycle and its nature’s way of clearing away failing/dying entities in order to make room for new growth to occur. If you didn’t have maniacs like Bernanke exerting their will over what once was the free market, then the downturn/corrections would be shorter in duration and far less dramatic in their side effects.

    Krugman and Bernanke don’t see it that way though and feel compelled to reward the bad business decisions of huge companies by printing trillions of new dollars.

    In essence, they’re saying that we must inflate the money supply (theft) to rescue idiots with trillions in subprime mort

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:34pm

    Krugman, Obama, and Romney all believe the FED should stay and keep printing money.

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  • soybomb315
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:26pm

    ugh – cant believe i didnt know this debate was planned. should spend less time on the blaze

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  • Captain77
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:21pm

    We’ve been using Paul Krugmans theory for the past 100 years and look at what it has gotten us. Our currency has lost 98% of its purchasing power, we’re in such deep debt, there is no hope of paying it off. A sound monetary policy is what makes nations prosperous and great. Fiat money always has a way of destroying nations.

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  • islamhater
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:18pm

    America is screwed! Why? Because only 20% support Ron Paul 80% thinks he is a crazy old man. Truth is Ron Paul is not perfect and niether or you. But he is the ONLY ONE close to a real American in government. 80% percent are Progressives/socialist/marxist/communist/stateist/ and you so called conservetives. That reminds me what was that % glenn keeps saying can change things for the good? Ya the same % that fought the revolutionary war huh. I will not vote in this election. Constitution or BUST.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:29pm

      Just vote for Ron Paul. I am. The Romney camp and the establishment are betting our hatred for Obama will out weigh our love of freedom. Romney and Obama are the same. If you want to get rid of Obama you better vote Ron Paul because Romney will not win with the Paul supporters not behind him. Give Ron Paul the media coverage and the GOP war chest, he will crush Obama on his record.

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    • 3monkeysmomma
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:32pm

      In 2008 I didn’t understand RP, now I believe his ideas are the ONLY ones that can save us…and I am SOOOO disappointed Beck supported Santorum, and now Romney instead of Paul.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:34pm

      @islamhater
      those stats are probably correct for the republican party. but when you include independents and democrats, he does very well nationally. its too bad republicans are so bad at picking leaders

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 11:26pm

      3monkeys
      2008 I didn’t even look at Ron Paul as a choice. Rush, Sean. Glenn and that little puke mark, told me he was a nut and crazy. I only started looking after the election and that was only on mistake. I have been in Recovery ever since. I Campaigned very hard for Dr. Paul in this election. Got to be on stage, meet and shake his hand. I also am disappointed about Beck and the rest of the so called Conservative talk show host, I cant even listen to them anymore.

      “May Future Generations Look Back On Our Work And Say That These Were Men And Women Who, In A Moment Of Great Crisis, Stood Up To Their Politicians, The Opinion-makers, and the Establishment, and Saved Their Country” -Ron Paul

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    • JRW
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:49am

      You ******* nutjob paultards are only voting for obama.

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    • Naps
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 1:48am

      JRW…Go back to your hole…TROLL

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 1:49am

      @jrw

      Well seeing as Ron Paul supporters will not support Romney. It seems your boy will not win either. You can either wake up and go with freedom, the Constitution, and fiscal sanity or you can get Obama.

      You brought up earlier his foreign policy is his down fall. I have to ask who are you so afraid of? This country will not be brought down by an outside force. It will all start from the inside.

      Oh and a pretty smart guy said this.

      “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety” – Benjamin Franklin

      Live in fear drone!! The boogie man is out to get you.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:44am

      So can someone explain the math to me as to how if only 20% support Dr. Paul, he is supposed to win? So if the math works out this way 20% Paul 41% Obama and 39% for Romney and it could have been 41% Obama and 59% Romney – Can someone tell me how taking 20% of the vote away from Romney thus insuring an Obama re-election is good for the country as a whole – the “principled” Paul vote equals what?

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    • Churchill
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:17am

      3monkeys, it’s because Glen is Israel first, USA second, and for some bizarre reason there’s a perception that Paul is anti-Israel, when in fact he’s the only candidate planning to cut off aid to all of Israels enemies.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:04am

      @kay

      Well learn the process. The amount of votes dont matter. Its delegates. Ron Paul didnt win in LA, Iowa, Minn, and Wash but he has won the majority of the delegates.

      He is going to win a lot more delegates also.

      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/04/30/revolution-in-massachusetts/

      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/04/29/ron-paul-wins-louisiana-caucus/

      If Mitt doesnt get to 1044 its anyones game. You also cannot go based on numbers Fox gives you on delegates. Remember they have been awarding the delegates based on the straw polls. That isnt how the process works in a lot of states as you can see above in the links.

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    • Texas Chris
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:34am

      Even if Mitt gets 1144 according to the media count, he’s NOT going to have 1144 on the first ballot. Hundreds of his bound delegates are Ron Paul supporters, and they will abstain. Further, many of the delegates the media claims are his have actually fallen to Paul.

      The race is much closer than the medis is letting on.

      Texas and California may very well bring a tie between Ronmey and Paul.

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    • JRW
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 3:06pm

      NAPS….you lunatic paultards perfected trolling. Spare us the sanctimonious outrage.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:33pm

      Kaydee, You are only looking through the GOP glasses here. Paul has support from 20% of Republicans, 55-60% of Independents, and a whopping 35% of Democrats! It is the GOP that has lost the ability to pick a conservative candidate. They seem to fall for the rhetoric of the progressive thinkers and go along with the elite controlled media picks. Look at the election fraud being perpetrated by the GOP nationally in these primaries, just because they do not want Paul as he would change the status quo from the elite, back to the people. Stop getting your news from the media. You want accurate news about Paul? Go to: http://www.dailypaul.com/ and learn what has really been going on.

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  • possom
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:13pm

    For a nobel-prize winning economist krugman don’t know jack about the economy!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 12:29am

      If you look into it, that award is actually for Keynesian economics.

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  • 13th Imam
    Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:11pm

    3 1/2 years of BARRY”S DEMOCRAT intervention. When are Barry‘s intervention policy’s going to HELP America?? NEVER.

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