‘Freethinkers’ Launch ‘Progressive’ National Atheist Political Party
- Posted on January 4, 2012 at 4:54pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Move over Republicans and Democrats — there’s a new political party in town. And according to its founder, this new party, launched and comprised of atheists, is seeking to speak to a more unheard audience.
Back in October, The Blaze explored whether non-believers were beginning to wage a global campaign that would enable them to gain sociopolitical power. Here, in America, there’s now new evidence that atheists are seeking to do just that.
Enter the National Atheist Party, a 527 political party (a non-profit that cannot specifically support candidates — only issues) that is believed to be the first of its kind in American history. Troy Boyle, a 45-year-old corporate legal representative, teamed up with one of his friends to launch the initiative centered upon the core belief that God doesn’t exist.
According to RNS, Boyle got the idea to launch a political party after watching an interview with well-known atheist Richard Dawkins. During the media appearance, the famed non-believer apparently wondered why atheists don’t organize more fervently to more profoundly influence politics.
Boyle was moved by this question. After researching and realizing that atheism and politics don’t really have much of a core relationship here in America, he decided to launch the NAP. Currently, the party has 7,500 members with chapters in all 50 states.
Below, watch a recent plea for funds:
At first, the duo named the political institution the Freethought Party. When that didn’t take, they changed its name to a clearer title that has led to a boom in its popularity. As of today, the group has more than 8,500 fans following its Facebook page.
According to Boyle, the party stands for no government favoritism when it comes to religion.
“We are convened with the idea that the Founding Fathers had it right,” he explains. “The separation of church and state, the establishment of the U.S. as a secular nation — those two concepts are our watchwords. We don’t want government to impose a religion, and we don’t want government to impose no religion. We want government to be silent with regards to religion.”
Boyle discusses the party’s view on religion, below:
When it comes to the party’s platform, it follows a trend that can mainly be described as “liberal.” Currently, the group’s web site touts support for the Occupy movement, among other sentiments. RNS has more about the party’s beliefs:
The party’s platform was decided on by a vote — again via Facebook — and includes hot-button issues such as gay marriage (for it), gun control (tighten it), abortion (a woman’s decision), immigration (reform it), energy (green it) and the economy (legalize recreational drugs to create revenue and jobs).
A portion of the party’s charter reads:
“The National Atheist Party is a progressive, secular, political movement and response to the lack of representation for all free thinking people who are legal, law abiding citizens and residents of the United States. We demand emancipation from the corporate sponsored religious dogma that has infiltrated our government and has unjustly influenced political decisions and policy making. We are for the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE and therefore incorporate the right to use the power of the PEOPLE to restore equality in our Democratic Republic in reasonable, rational and non-violent means…”
While the NAP faces an uphill battle, to say the least, Boyle says that donations are streaming in and that membership continues to grow (the group even appears to be hiring for some staff positions). That being said, growing in support is very different from being able to wage successful political campaigns. But accompanying his optimism comes a realistic understanding of the schema in both American religion and politics.
“We know we are a minority and we know that is not likely to change in the near future,” he explained. “We simply want the right to exist. And if that doesn’t turn into a majority landslide of popular support, whoever thought it was going to? But an election on an issue or on a candidate can be swayed by a small group of people…In two or 10 or 20 years, who knows how many of us there will be and when we vote on an issue it will matter.”
You can read more about the NAP on the group’s official web site.
(H/T: RNS via Huffington Post)
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Comments (212)
SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:27pm.
Report Post »‘Freethinkers’ Launch ‘Progressive’ National Atheist Political Party or NAPPY as it will be known from now on………
Baddoggy
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:40pmFreethinkers? Man that makes me laugh. In Texas we call them dumba@@es.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:41pmWill N.A.P.P. ever get a presidential nominee into office? I DON’T BELIEVE they can. lol
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:51pmNot much time left now, knock, knock, knock. No answer, no one answers.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:57pmYou know what’s interesting? The way people are sealed. As the truth is coming down the lukewarm which are most people become much more hard, getting harder and harder. The righteous which are very very few tend to concur, and the meek are open to discussion and can be led in the right direction. Anyways, that’s how the sealing works.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:03pmGreat “thinking”… put your Name on a List… and I’ll collect it!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:06pmAnd N.A.P.P.Y can cite successful “humanist” governments like Stalin’s Russia, Nazi Germany, Khmer Rouge, Maoist China, Castro’s Cuba..etc as examples of how atheists make better government.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 7:01pmYeah that will catch on…atheists have killed more in the name of atheism than all of the religions put together and it seems we are headed there again today…anti-smites abound and christian bashing is the sport of the net.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 7:09pmthey can join forces with ‘kopimism’ the new sanctioned religion in Denmark, they just want the right to exist as well
Report Post »SDM-Shepherd
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 10:21pmMore revisionist history…There is NO separation of church and state. The government cannot create a state church, but separation from God, religion, and church is not in the Constitution. God help us.
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 10:50pmAnd here I thought the Demos were the athiest party? Sounds like a money scam to me.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 1:35amSome atheists in New Zealand tried this a few years ago. Even in a country that is roughly 40% atheist (depending on which poll you look at), the movement collapsed almost immediately through lack of interest. Religious belief, including religious disbelief, has no place in politics.
(Just for the record, I’m an atheist.)
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 1:42am@Eliasim
I’m sorry, mate. I read that “sealing” post a half a dozen times and I still can’t figure out what you are trying to say. Maybe I being a bit thick tonight. Care to have another go?
Report Post »TheRugger
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 3:20amIn Australian slang a nappy (short for napkin) is a babies diaper, and we know what they are generally full of.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:28amIf it grows, soros will fund it.
DNC 2.0??
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:50amThis already exists-the Democrat party! These people will siphon votes from 0bummer. Go for it!
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:26pmThet don’t get any federal funds, do they? Atheism, like all other religions, must be separated from the state.
It‘s great that they’re banding together. It will make them a lot easier for God to find. Should save him some time…when the time comes.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:34pmI just still find it funny that people still don’t understand the concept of Jesus spitting on the ground to show the blind man how it was Jesus spirit was sent into the earth.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:35pmYour God is all powerful, all knowing, unchanging, everlasting……yet you claim it will make things “easier” for him.
Lol, zero logic.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:38pmAnd all people have free-will in which way they are going to interpret the “light”, and that’s why some people see the dimmer light (as in a crescent and tiny star), and some people see the morning star.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:49pm@MODERATIONISBEST
Just so you don’t have to go searching for your name, thought I’d let you know that I left you some responses over in the other story.
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:38pm@Moderation
You mentioned the lack of logic in religion so I have to ask. Is it logical to try to impose you atheist views on Christians? Isn’t the main gripe of atheists that Christian try to cram their views down your throats. Isn’t that why y’all cry about Christmas trees and nativity scenes? I though yalls whole point in your war on Christmas was you wanted to be left alone, free from the views of “Christian Extremist.” So is it “Logical” to come hear and do the same things you condemn? Maybe you should change your name to Contradictions are Best.
Report Post »totripoli
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:29pm@SPECKCHASER
Report Post »You don’t see the difference between debating ideas on a public forum, as opposed to calling for legislative changes in favor of your own specific brand of religion?
eli salas
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:14pmThe time will never come, it’s all just a fairy tale delusion. It’s like saying Santa Claus is real or the tooth fairy, only the God thing is more popular. Yea, the time will never come.
Report Post »jado1981
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:26pmLike so many others have said, I really don’t see how this differs from the current democratic party.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:31pmHopefully it will weaken it … ;-)
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 8:41pmThis is just too amusing.
Troy opens up his 2nd video with……“Welcome to my second Presidential address”
Look at his surroundings. It looks like he really is in his parents basement.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:25pm“We demand emancipation from the corporate sponsored religious dogma that has infiltrated our government and has unjustly influenced political decisions and policy making.”
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Do these ignorant people even know what country they live in? The only “infiltration” of “our government”, is the infiltration of secularism and atheistic thought. America did not start out secular in it’s principles and was not founded on atheistic “dogma”.
The very freedom that atheists enjoy comes from Christian principles. Christians founded this country and gave us the Constitution, The Declaration of Independence and The Bill of Rights so that these atheists have the freedom to protest the principles that gave them the right to protest in the first place.
George Washington
1st U.S. President
“While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”
“It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”
“The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained”
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:30pmGeorge Washington
“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.”
“It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favors.”
John Adams
2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence.
“Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God … What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be.”
–Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.
“Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any others.”
John Adams.
“The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
Report Post »–Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.
Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:32pm“The Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist, and believed blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations.”
John Adams
James Madison
“We have staked the whole future of the American civilization, not upon the power of the government (but) upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.”
Thomas Jefferson
3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence
“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event.”
–Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.
“ Of all systems of morality, ancient or modern, which have come under my observation, none appear to be so pure as that of Jesus.”
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:35pmThomas Jefferson
“Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice can not sleep forever.”
“The God that gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time.”
“I hold the precepts of Jesus as delivered by Himself, to be the most pure, benevolent and sublime which have ever been preached to man….”
“To the corruptions of Christianity, I am indeed opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus Himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense He wished anyone to be; sincerely attached to His doctrines, in the preference to all others.”
From Jefferson’s Last Will and Testament
“I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ.”
–The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385.
Patrick Henry
Ratifier of the U.S. Constitution
“It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”
–The Trumpet Voice of Freedom: Patrick Henry of Virginia, p. iii.
“The Bible … is a book worth more than all the other books that were ever print
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:39pmI can quote Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine. What’s your point?
Look up the answers to some of these questions for me.
When was “Under God” put into the pledge of allegiance?
When did “In God we trust” become our national motto?
When did “in God we trust” get put on our paper currency?
Christians have done a great job over time creeping this crap into our Government.
I‘m not saying that some of our founders weren’t Chrisitans. They were.
There were also Deists and non believers.
I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who spoke about how vile Christianity was. I might be mistaken on that though.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:51pmHey Mod,
Your lack of moderateness is showing again.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:01pm@ModerationIsBest
I won’t look up all those dates for you, but I will compliment you on giving us great examples of how we have carried on the tradition, intent, and Christian patriotism, the founders prayed for, throughout the years that would make our founding fathers proud. We need to continue what they started or America WILL fall. The founders predicted it over 200yrs ago. And we see it happening right before our eyes. It’s no coincidence that the more secular America gets, the worse things get. Who is causeing all the problems now? It ain’t Christians or Christian principles and values.
FYI, Jefferson was a Christian, as you can see from the quotes, if you bothered to read them.
Report Post »He did have issues with some interpretations of the Bible. Therefore there are some negative sounding quotes out there that people try to use to their advantage and agenda. The true quotes above make it quite clear that Jefferson was a Christian.
ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:11pm@RATIONAL MAN
I had read the other quotes, but you must have submitted your quotes with Jefferson while I was typing up my response, therefore I couldn’t address them.
Didn’t Jefferson write a new new testament in which he took out all of the religious, fake mumbo jumbo? How very Christian of him, modifying the Holy Book. lol
Report Post »Dudley Do-Right
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:11pmReligion and the Founding of the American Republic
This exhibition demonstrates that many of the colonies that in 1776 became the United States of America were settled by men and women of deep religious convictions who in the seventeenth century crossed the Atlantic Ocean to practice their faith freely. That the religious intensity of the original settlers would diminish to some extent over time was perhaps to be expected, but new waves of eighteenth century immigrants brought their own religious fervor across the Atlantic and the nation’s first major religious revival in the middle of the eighteenth century injected new vigor into American religion. The result was that a religious people rose in rebellion against Great Britain in 1776, and that most American statesmen, when they began to form new governments at the state and national levels, shared the convictions of most of their constituents that religion was, to quote Alexis de Tocqueville’s observation, indispensable to the maintenance of republican institutions. The efforts of the Founders of the American nation to define the role of religious faith in public life and the degree to which it could be supported by public officials that was not inconsistent with the revolutionary imperatives of the equality and freedom of all citizens is the central question which this exhibition explores.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:12pm@Billy
You know where my moderation comes in? Because I have no interest in joining this group despite being an Atheist.
I don’t want to be associated with anyone. I want to speak for myself.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 7:25pm@MOD
I don’t think you will have any problem whatsoever accomplishing that goal.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 8:56pm@ Mod… No Jefferson wrote the “Jefferson Bible” to take only the words of Christ as a Testament to Jesus with the idea that any being who reads the words of Christ would be converted to Christianity. Helps to research first rather than spewing uninformed “diest: crap
Report Post »Zipit
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:11amDude. Do us all a favor and quit posting books!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 5:06pmDude,
Books are your friend.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:20pm@Zipit
Sorry you are intimidated by books and the knowedge they contain.
Report Post »But it is an open forum and you are free to disreguard any knowledge or information you choose to.
BagpipenAZ
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:24pmSounds like a bunch of people without any moral priciples just trying to get what they want.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:43pmExactly!………………..
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:50pmLOL .. Democrats and OWS .. and now this.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:35amThat’s exactly what left wingers are.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:20pmAtheists are against God, agnostics don’t believe in God. Talk about confused.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:29pmAnd they call themselves “Free thinkers.” Now that’s really funny.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:40pmI‘m an Atheist and don’t believe in a God. Therefore I can’t be against him.
I can be against people that believe in God.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:48pmMODERATION: Why do you have to be AGAINST people who do not have your same opinion? Did someone die and leave you in charge of world opinion? Maybe you are the new Irreligious Czar ? What is with this Lefty arrogance and intolerance ?
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:53pmOkay, I worded it poorly. My point is that an atheist is anti-religion, and an agnostic is a nonbeliever. There is a difference.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:18pmBARBER2
If people no longer voted people into power who have the same beliefs as they do, and then create legislation around those beliefs, I wouldn’t have a problem with them.
Fact is, about 90% of my friends are Evangelical Christians. I have Mormon aunts and uncle and two friends who are Jews.
So let’s get rid of this “I’m against them” because obviously I’m not against their beliefs. I”m against them forcing people to conform to those beliefs through the passing of legislation.
Report Post »yanki161
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:46pmJust to be factual: An agnostic is not sure if God exists or not, that it cannot be proven either way but has some level of openness to the subject. An atheist is sure He does not exist.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 7:30pmBut MOD,
You said in another thread on this page that you’re not absolutely sure, that there is the possibility that you are wrong in you assumptions.
What gives?
You‘re new to this aren’t you?
Why don’t you get all the talking points down first, then come back with a new name.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 8:58pmagnostics are skeptical about the existance of God….
Report Post »phendraana
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 3:54pmAtheists cannot be against something they don’t believe in. I‘d wager a guess that you don’t believe in Zeus… so you don’t disbelieve in Him, you’re just anti-Zeus.
See how stupid that sounds?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 5:37pmHey MOD,
When I suggested that you come back with a new name, I did not mean in the same thread.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:05amYANK, . . . to be even MORE factual, Agnostics [such as myself] are not sure of the existence of gods [plural], goddesses, faeries, gnomes, etc….
The way you have worded it makes it appear that there IS “only one god”. Such a claim is even MORE impossible to demonstrate [compared to demonstrating any of the above mentioned].
An atheist is confident in his assertion that no gods exist.
So, when we look for “TRUTH”, or more correctly stated FACTS, explain to me how someone who is being intellectually honest is doing so with “evil” motivation? If facts are determined demonstrably, those facts should stand on their own.
Having said that, . . . there is no factual argument that gay marriage will undermine a society. It isn’t my cause, but I don’t see any harm in it. . . IF the two love each other. The environment SHOULD be a focus. We LIVE in it, so is in our best interest keep it clean.
I’m not for all their points. I will start another post about that.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:20pmGive you a good odds that Van Jones is in the background of these groups. Remember he said he would launch a series of local political groups at the city, county and state levels of Socialist Progressive and Communist parties? This may be it happening.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:24pmhis bald head and big communist mouth along with george soros are really funding tech comet fart believers agenda.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:25pmsorry snow, should have read funding THE comet fart believers agenda.
Report Post »JJW
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:19pmNazi nuts
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:42pmUh, Nazi’s were Chrisitans buddy. Read a book besides your Bible. If you don’t want to read a book, please inform me and I will be happy to type out a few sentences which flat out refute what you just wrote.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:43pmPeople of all faiths and backgrounds got sucked up into Nazism and many just went along to survive.
There is evidence of Obama and the progressives trying to sell a twisted form of Christianity to intice people to come to the dark side with them. There have been many messed up “Christians” who did bad things throughout history. Faithful Christians condemn those things and greive over it.
I’m sure that you condemn the atrocities commited by Mao Se Tung, Joseph Stalin, and others who were atheists……..right?
Gregory Koukl
Report Post »“It is true that it’s possible that religion can produce evil, and generally when we look closer at the detail it produces evil because the individual people are actually living in a rejection of the tenets of Christianity and a rejection of the God that they are supposed to be following. So it can produce it, but the historical fact is that outright rejection of God and institutionalizing of atheism actually does produce evil on incredible levels. We’re talking about tens of millions of people as a result of the rejection of God”
Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:47pmNobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was asked to account for the great tragedies that occurred under the brutal communist regime he and fellow citizens suffered under.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn offered the following explanation:
Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: ‘Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.’
Since then I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: ‘Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.’
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mass_Murder
Maybe you could give me an example of any non-Christian nation that has done more good in the world than the United States of America that was founded and sustained by Christian principles and values. In spite of our mistakes.
Report Post »1babybogie4us
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:19pmAtheists/Communists/Democrats, all 3 sound the same to me!
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 11:45pmThat’s b/c they are.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:19pmI thought the ACLU was the atheists’ party.
Report Post »mrmikejohnson
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:17pmGood. Maybe this party will fragment the democrats. There’s lots of unhappy democrats with no political home they like. They Republicans and the Tea Party don’t always get along, but they are both opposed to Obama.
Report Post »1proud_Texan
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:29pmMy thoughts exactly. We can only pray they split the Democrat vote.
Report Post »bratty mcbratten
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:16pmFollowers of the NAP please take the time to read the 5000 year leap 101 principles of freedom. You guys got it ALL wrong. THIS country was founded on DIVINE PROVIDENCE. A morale compass based on the Ten Commandants, not a compass based on what feels right to MAN. I will pray for you all.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:34pmWhat do you call divine providence?
You mean when they “discovered” a place where people already were living?
Or you mean how they then killed and took that land from those people? And other land from other people?
I love how over the years we’ve put a neat little spin on our foundation as a nation to make it seem like we were justified and had “God on our side.”
It’s amazing to me how much religion throughout the world has invaded places, killed the people and then praised God for “giving” them that land.
Give me a break.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:46pm@ModerationIsBest
Look around…….It’s good to be on the right side……..Don’t you think?
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:54pm@RATIONAL MAN
Just because we won, doesn‘t mean it’s divinely inspired buddy. I honestly wish you could see that.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:07pm@ModerationIsBest
Well,….wish in one hand and…………..well you know the rest………………….
Report Post »Kuma with Klaws
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:13pmThree words… Freethinkers? My @$$ !!
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:31pmFreethinkers = Void of all the shackles of rational thought.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:49pmLet’s gauge your free thinking ability. Let‘s see if I’m as tied down to something as you claim I am, and let‘s see if you’re as tied down to something as I think you are.
I‘m an atheist who hasn’t seen evidence for a God, much less your God I have no problem admitting that I may be wrong and there could be a God.
I assume you are a believer who has seen evidence for a God, and a specific God but would you be willing to to admit that you may be wrong and there could be no God?
If you can’t agree to that, please don’t question my ability to think freely and rationally.
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:12pmGood place for queers to hang
Report Post »dpselfe
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:12pmGee, look at that. Their logo looks strikingly like the Obama “O”……I‘m sure it’s just a coincidence……..right?
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:12pmatheist launch progressive political party, it should read, anti god,anti america,anti freedom,pro abortion,pro propaganda,liberal,progressive communist, but that would not look god to the stupid who continue to fall in line with the freeloading everything free idiots,what is it they say, do as i say not as i do, boy,they will all be cry,******* and moaning when their “” new world order,not god just comet farts communist utopia “‘ turns out to worse than they have it now.
Report Post »Rick300
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:11pmWhy do these atheists talk so much about religion?
Report Post »Kuma with Klaws
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:29pmPerhaps, that is because atheism is itself a religion of sorts…
Report Post »1proud_Texan
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:31pmI guess they truly don’t have a life and want to make everybody equally miserable.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:43pmOr maybe it’s because you force your beliefs on others by voting people with similar thoughts as you into power, who then create legislation based around those thoughts…..which come from the Bible.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:18pm@ModerationIsBest
Maybe you would be happier living somewhere else?
Report Post »Maybe Amsterdam or some place like that?
Not trying to be a jerk, just concerned for your happiness.
I know I wouldn’t want to live in a Muslim nation, or a communist nation, or a Hindu nation. I would want to leave and go where I felt like I belonged and was comfortable.
I can see why you are uncomfortable in a Christian nation, being an atheist and all.
If it was me, I would leave. But thats just me I guess……………………..
Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:56pmThat guy in the video give me the creeps.
Is that you MODERATIONISBEST?
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 12:28amIt’s like saying water does not exsist while standing neck deep.
It’s like someone telling me they are a democrat. In my mind I hear “he’s stupid and afraid to open his eyes”
Report Post »qzak491
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:54amMODERATIONISBEST
Or maybe it’s because you force your beliefs on others by voting people with similar thoughts as you into power, who then create legislation based around those thoughts…..which come from the Bible.
And just what do you think these idiots are going to do. At least we have a source for our thoughts, these idiots have nothing but their opinion that they will try to force on us. They are pure evil, and if the shoe fits, wear it.
Report Post »Arminianism
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:09pmSo just more guys in their parents basement telling believers that they are stupid and that atheist are smarter because they believe that all this came from a big ball of matter that exploded many years ago. Oh, and we might of came about by microorganism that piggybacked on the back of asteroids or maybe it was aliens that planted human life years ago and are just hanging out watching. Sounds like a bunch of losers to me….
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:07pmThis is in the national anthem :
Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
or maybe this loon should read carefully the proclamation of Thanksgiving by George Washington .
Report Post »Blazesurfer
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:06pmSound just like Democrats.
Report Post »Blazesurfer
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:05pmWow, the same thing Democrats like.
Report Post »netmail
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:05pmRewrite history to fit an agenda, ok? The founders were all atheists at heart. Sounds like a reasonable place to start. NOT!!…What we have here are more inmates trying to run the asylum.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:44pmJust more of the Left’s Big Lies or Twisted History…
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:04pmI find the term “free-thinking” such a misnomer. Atheists are anything but free; they are in a prison of their own making. I kinda feel sorry for ‘em.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:46pmOkay, let’s gauge how correct you are in your thinking. Let’s see how “free” your thinking is.
I’m an atheist, I haven’t seen evidence for the existence of a God, much less your God. While I don’t think there is a God, I don’t claim to know for sure and could very well be wrong.
I ask you. While you may think there is a God, and specifically YOUR God, are you willing to claim that you could be wrong, and that there could be no God?
If you aren’t willing to agree to that, please don’t call yourself a rational or free thinker.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:57pmMOD
You are a really poor spokesman for your cause.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:15pmI will just say this, I have experienced the salvation of Jesus Christ; thereby allowing the Holy Spirit to indwell my spirit. I am completely persuaded of this and believe me, very thankful. I wish this condition that I have to be others’ experience.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:16pmCome on Billy, be a free thinker. Are you open to the possibility of being wrong(assuming you are a believer)?
Atheism is the rejection of a claim.
Believers claim there is a God, and a specific God. I reject that claim.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:44pm@MOD
I reject all of your claims.
Am I a full fledged atheist now?
Do I get a secret decoder ring? Will it reveal an Ovaltine commercial?
MOD, yes I am a believer, and I am not wrong.
See, that‘s where you just don’t get it. You say that believers “CLAIM” there is a GOD.
We believers “KNOW” there is a GOD.
Happy Trails
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:49pm@MOD
See what I mean about you being a poor spokesman?
Report Post »Marine25
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 9:43pmIt’s called FAITH, and by definition, has nothing to do with evidence. proof, or empirical truth. Like all superstitions. it requires no burden of truth. just the fact that you believe that stepping on a crack will break your mother’s back is sufficient. And that’s okay. But I don‘t believe it’s okay for all you superstitious christians and muslims and hindus and jews to hate the rest of us because we base our lives on reason and not wive’s tales.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 10:59pmNo hate involved MARINE25
Point me in the right direction if I’m wrong, but outside of this story, when there is any mention of God, or Christianity, or Tim Tebow, it is always the atheists around here that throw out the first invective and the mocking remarks about fairy tales and all kinds of other vile characterizations.
So just consider it tit for tat and stop whining. Nobody cares if you don’t believe. Stop being the squeaky wheels, and we would not even know you existed.
Report Post »Marine25
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:59pmRightsofBilly
Report Post »Believe me people care when they learn you don’t believe. The religious throw the first stones here, if you don’t believe me, check out the fact that the Blaze included the word atheist in the Stephen Hocking headline although it had nothing to do with the article. They knew it would fire the religious folk up and create a buzz. Most atheists have no problem with religion, but are compelled to speak up when it is suggested that faith and not fact be the basis for political and social policy. It has led to a national assault on personal liberty not to mention science. Many christians attack the rights of Americans who choose to believe in some other deity, like Mohammed, or Buddha, or even Zeus. Many attack those with the intellectual and observational abilities to prove the earth is more than 4000 years old, even though that group includes most middle school students. I believe the historical Christ lived and was one of the greatest liberal philosophers in human history, for that no one can deny. I refuse to believe the fictional accounts of his legend written hundreds of years after his death by politicians, and re-written endlessly for a thousand years to befit contempory political whims. There is, even theistic scholars admit, no evidence that the bulk of these retellings are true. As an American, and a rational being, I object to my country creating political and social policy based on faith.
ozchambers
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:04pmHell, they have millions of members already! It’s called the Democratic Party.
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:04pmPeople with the right to free speech speaking freely. Thank goodness we don’t have to worry about the government torturing and killing us for being pro-religious or anti-state sponsored religion.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:13pmnot yet, but with the communist standing on the front door step, it may not be long.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:25pmYes, I support their right, no matter how much I may agree or disagree with their position. But our rights and constitution are being destroyed right in front of our eyes by BHO.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:51pmLol, bush did the same thing as Obama. Almost every President over the last 40 decades have done stuff to limit our freedoms. You are for limiting a gay person’s right to be married, that is LIMITING their freedoms. Please at least be honest in your rantings. And I’m not an Obama fan at all, I voted against him last time.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 6:34pmNo it’s not Mod.
They can get married, as long as they follow the same rules we do.
1 man + 1 woman = marriage. No discrimination involved.
Now we know from your other postings that you think marriage is just a silly “word”.
Quoting you……….
“How does gay marriage take away from your marriage? Is your marriage so shallow that you need a WORD for it to have meaning? Would you think less of your marriage if gay people were allowed to be married? If so, I suggest you re-assess your marriage and its meaning. I would hope true love and the feelings that come with it would transcend a silly word”.
Mod,
If it is just a silly “WORD”, and it is “SHALLOW” to give it’s meaning any significance, then why all the hubub about calling it gay “MARRIAGE”
Isn’t their just being in love with each other enough to transcend a silly WORD?
You want equal legal rights and benefits, fine.
But don’t call it a marriage, because it’s not. Call it a Festivus if you want.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 7:06pmGovernment is your salvation, if you are a liberal.
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