Frustrated Megyn Kelly Calls Out Guest Who Refuses to Address Evidence of Obama’s Flip-Flop on Obamacare ‘Tax’
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Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt claimed on Thursday that the Obama administration never referred to the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate as a “tax” when it argued the bill’s constitutionality before the Supreme Court.
However, as we demonstrated in an article published earlier this afternoon, this simply isn’t true. In fact, the claim is so monumentally false, everyone from CNN‘s Soledad O’Brien to Fox News’ Megyn Kelly has called “B.S.” on LaBolt.
“Are they [the Obama administration] being straight with the American people and now sending Ben LaBolt, among others, to come out and say ‘it’s not a tax’?” Kelly asked NDN president Simon Rosenberg.
“Well, let’s look at what the architect of this strategy said about this –”
“No, no, no, no!” Kelly said, refusing to let Rosenberg dodge the question by turning the conversation into something about former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. “Before you go to Romney, let’s stay on President Obama. We’ll get to Mitt Romney, but answer my question!”
But Rosenberg persisted: “Mitt Romney called it a ‘tax penalty,’ Mitt Romney has called it –”
“Mitt Romney is not the architect of ‘Obamacare,” an increasingly frustrated Kelly interjected. “He wasn’t. He was the architect of ‘Romneycare.’ Let’s stay on point, we’ll get to Romney in a minute. We sticking with Barack Obama.”
Rosenberg went on to explain how the “penalty” works under the tax authority — meaning he continued to avoid Kelly’s opening question. It didn‘t take long for her to decide that she wasn’t going to allow him to dodge her question with campaign-style talking points.
“No! No! No!” she said.
“Why can’t I answer the question?” said an also frustrated Rosenberg.
“Because you’re not being direct either!” she responded. “Yes, they argued that he had the power under the taxing powers of the Constitution. But I just showed it to you! Then they went into the Supreme Court, Simon, and said ‘it is valid as a tax in its own right!’”
This story has been updated.
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Comments (262)
great white hunter
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:48pmMegyn should beat this drum the way Rush does. I hate to say it but you must fight fire with fire. We either win or we lose. There is no prize for 2nd or 3rd. The lamestream media hammers their lies 24/7.There are still many people that believe what they are told from tv and the newspapers and they vote. I am really sick and tired of hearing the old line about we shoud be above that type of behavior. Pretty soon everyone will have to stand up or go quietly into the night.
Report Post »socialism.rocks
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:02pmno they will stand you up to do something against government then we can smash you like everytime in history…
thats right you right-wingers are being set up by fox news they will turn on you as soon as the people start demanding real change………
you are being set up to take the fall the blame for everything the banking institutions the social problems and you dont even see it- coming
there will be a day when fox news and glen beck turns on you and i am going to be laughing the whole time when you are forced into internment camps to be re-educated
Iamnotanumber
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:12pmBring it, I will not go quietly in the night, I will not be “re-educated”, I will not comply…your move SOCIALIST!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:22pmSOCIALISMROCKSINTHEHEAD….you forgot to put “muh ha ha ha ha” at the end of your unhinged post. Did you put your pinky in the corner of your mouth and say “one million dollars” to yourself after you typed it?
Report Post »Blazebanned
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:31pm@socialismrocks aka encinom.
Report Post »Did you not make it past the second grade? You couldnt properly form sentences of capitalize word that begin a sentence, if someone held a gun to your mushmellon head,f-n dumbass pos.And next time, try to be more original in your post instead of parrotting something from media matters.
ltb
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:32pmLiberals are such morons.
Report Post »mrsuperpat
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 6:49pmThis is just political theater. Bunch of doubletalk redifing what is means. Obama could rape a woman on the White House lawn live on TV and all the media would say nothing including FOX. There all a bunch of Carnival Barkers whooing their audience while providing cover for the crooks on Wall Street and in Washington. Republicans wanted this healthcare and that is why it passed and that is why it will remain, because you people have Stockholm Syndrome. You vote for the establishment every time after believing their lies and expect a different result.
Report Post »I.Heart.America
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 7:47pmRepeal it ALL…Petition
by…Senate Conservatives Fund
http://www.repealitall.com/?c=bd1260e8bc77e978f374a01a1f8338d5
Report Post »Baerlin
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 7:53pmTo Socialismrocks – Having lived in Berlin in ‘89 when the Wall came down, I saw the direct results of socialism and I have to say, once again, you are an idiot. No where in the world has socialism succeeded. You all fail to learn from the past and are therefore predestine to repeat the same idiotic failures again and again. Don’t bring up any Scandinavian countries either because their tax rates are through the roof………..
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 8:27pmI mentioned this earlier on the Redneck Games article, but it fits SOCIALISM.ROCKS so well. You can’t fix stupid…even with duct tape.
Report Post »BTW, do you still think that the Tories of the 18th Century British Crown are today’s Republicans? Stupid is as stupid does.
anomnomnommm
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 11:36pmThe Blaze and the rest of the MSM always seem to forget our beloved Romney…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IJsiBHYTFg
Brought to you by the Cato Institute
http://imgur.com/K95j7
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:31amRJJinGadsden, The liberals of today are like the Tories, the Republicans of today are like the liberals of the same time period (Romney). You want someone to fight to repeal Obamacare? Ron Paul.!Unlike Romney, Paul would not try to replace it, but he would try to get government out of healthcare all together.
Report Post »Komponist-ZAH
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 5:03amRJJ—
No, he thinks we’re “torries”, whatever they are/were.
But even if he can’t spell, at least he’s honest in his fascism.
Report Post »VigilantGuardShark
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 5:53amTo stand by and let the lies be told over and over until they are recognised as truth by the ignorant, is repeating the mistake of Germany prior to and during WWll. Don’t let it happen! Attack the lies, impune the Liars for what they are and what they are trying to do. Tell the Truth at every occasion and however the future unfolds, stand firm to your principles with a clear conscious.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 9:52amPresident Bush hasn’t done a fraction of the damage to America as Obamma has.
It’s time to BLAME OBAMA, blame obama, blame obama, blame obama.
Report Post »He’s damaged America more than Nixon or Carter or LBJ or any President since George Washington. He’s spent & wasted more of our money than all of them.
jblovesAmerica
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 10:01am@social.rocks-
Report Post »I did not ask for any change. my employer takes very good care of me. we share the costs.
i take good care of myself-for my sake not anyone else’s.
I live in Cleveland Ohio-home of the CLeveland Clinic/Metro General/University Hospitals-Obama care will take these fine world class hospitals off the grid-the doctors will not treat Medicare.Medicaid patients-how does that help??
Nothing is free-someone must pay-who pays for you-it will not be me-i assure you of that.
Once Obama care is fully implemented and health care as we know it goes down in flames.
There is going to be hell to pay.
Those Congresspersons who voted it in under some pretty underhanded means will be held accountable-i assure you of that also.
JohnHW
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 11:23amMrSuperPat: Not ONE Republican voted for ObamaCare, so get your facts straight. Of course, being a liberal, you think that if you repeat a lie enough times, and the liberal media won’t put out any rebuttal, then the stupid voters will believe it.
Then you have the Fox News watchers – who have more viewers than any other cable news channels PUT TOGETHER. You ask why? Maybe because we still have people who believe in truth, something you can get from CNN, MSNBC, etc., or even ABC/NBC/CBS. Of course, I have to turn off the sound when they put such idiots as Debbie, Christopher, Holmes, etc., on to balance the news. Trouble is, the liberals all read from the same lying script. I hear it one time, I want to put my gun to the TV so I don’t have to listen to the same dribble again (Thank you Mute Button). When will they actually answer a question directly? They open their mouth and immediately make a 90 or 180 degree turn and sprew out their lies, trying to avoid having to put blame on Obama and instead blame anyone else.
Report Post »boyd9
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:20pmIf Socialism Rocks how do you explain the financial collapse and the riots int the streets in Europe. If government regulation can PREVENT economic downturns then why is Europe in so much trouble economically, shouldn’t they be immune to economic forces, and insulated and protected from them by all their bureaucrats and regulations?????
Report Post »People come to this country because we are not Europe, America will never be Europe, the majority of the people here understand that Socialism is a LIE, that Marxism is a LIE. Increases in Central Government power do NOT result in Utopia they result in Tyranny and the destruction of the middle class.
socalif
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 3:24pmSocialism.rocks.
what an idiot, go move… i would say get a job, but I AM SURE, you are on the govt dole, because you dont know what work is. take take take, typical LOSER
Report Post »getalong
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 4:37pmYour comment sounds like you are in a very paranoid state. This happens sometimes with drug users. It seems to me that you should be out laying around in a park throwing trash all over, or pooping on police cars, but then again, I guess it is even too hot for communists to be outside. I think you might want to do your homework because every single social problem, bank problem, and yes, the housing catastrophe can be traced back to liberal democrats and progressives….and socialists like you. Take a look at Greece and you can see just how great socialism is!!!!!!! Peace out, bro!
Report Post »pebbles
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 5:18pmSocialism-Rocks — If you don’t like living in a Republic, why don’t you put your ass in your hand and move it to Europe, and see how that will go for you. Socialism has not worked there, nor will it work here. And speaking of interment camps, you opening your mouth will get you there real fast, and I hope your lips are superglued togeather. Nothing that you ahve spewed out on this site is of any value..
Report Post »DirkPitt
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 9:56pmerrr….LOL at the previous comment from :Socialism….
Report Post »Hiremeglenn
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 10:27pmObama was for it before he was against it but now is for it…as long as you can call it a penalty. So if it is a penalty, is this law unconstitutional since it only survives as a tax?
Report Post »Mikeyyy
Posted on July 7, 2012 at 1:34amMegyn is great. She definitely gave the guy most of the time to defend himself, but made him look like a buffoon
Report Post »CobraBill
Posted on July 7, 2012 at 2:41amShe is so easy on the eyes.
Report Post »Beauty, brains, great smile, very funny too.
Oh sorry, what did she say?
RSHLUVER
Posted on July 7, 2012 at 5:52pmMitt Romney needs to get a new campaign staff. He botched a free gift given to him by Justice Roberts ruling Obamacare a tax.
Report Post »For my Liberty!
Posted on July 7, 2012 at 6:54pm@ socialism.rocks….YOU are in IDIOT—ONCE they achieve their AGENDA, they have NO MORE USE FOR YOU!!!–Those that YOU follow believe that the world is overpopulated, so YOUR A$$ will be gone OR a slave to them like the REST Of us! People like YOU have a mental problem and shouldn’t be ALLOWED to vote!
Report Post »Boozer
Posted on July 7, 2012 at 8:28pmTo live is Christ to die is gain
Report Post »americaalways
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 2:33pmAbsolutely agree with you. When in a fight, there is no equality. No one is equal in any way. Someone will have an advantage of there own or at least at the others disadvantage. When a ‘rule’ is in place and once broken, the rule should be gone and not still on the one side. “democrats’ (we all know that they’re not) always distort or lie and are never called on it so republicans should answer the abuses by buying press time or print time to finally get the truth out. Sad that truth has to cost but face facts, the liars have the free media. Does that mean give up? When republicans really fight the anti American political s, I’ll send in donations again. Until then, why throw my EARNED money away.
Report Post »gbfreak
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:47pmIt’s a TAX with a penalty. Supreme court sided with the obammie lawyers……let alone it’s a socialist puke infiltration of our government!!!
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:47pmI know FOX tries to be “Fair and Balanced” —— but why do they CONTINUE to have LIBERAL IDIOTS ON that spew their BULLS%T and simply tow the party line??
Why should FOX be the ONLY media outlet that tried to give both sides?
You get ONE side on EVERY OTHER station – —- – - – -
For GODS SAKE – GET RID OF BOB BECKTOL – ALAN COLMES – and all the other DWEEBS that come on the show to piss all over the constitution?
I swear —I will watch MORE if you do.
—– I just have to turn off Alan Colmes and watch re-runs of COPS instead.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:06pmERIC..it is important to have Obama’s surrogates on and have them on record as much as possible. Sooner or later Obama himself is going to be confronted with the same question..”is it a tax or a penalty?”. Obama will say it‘s a penalty which leaves him wide open for attack when he’s made aware that it cannot exist as anything other than a tax under the constitution. If the SCOTUS says it’s a tax..it’s a tax. This is all to set up Obama who will inevitably have to speak on it himself without the cover of his surrogates. Also..how do you think independents are perceiving all this right now? They saw the SCOTUS decision..it’s a tax…and Obama‘s surrogates are saying it’s not a tax while their own words are being paraded in front of them saying clearly..”it’s a tax”. You think independents are likely to vote for Obama after all that? You think the denials are working in Obama’s favour?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:36pmIt’s called ammunition…..
Report Post »myway
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:39pmI agree! These liberals are missing a brain cell. Stuck in tunnel vision.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 9:36amERIC
Report Post »I agree
Bob Beckfull is a old die hard liberal who shoots his mouth off.
Liberalism is truly a disease.
Ever notice how a liberal WILL NOT answer a DIRECT question?
I stopped watching the FIVE because of Beckfull’s stupidity.
OMG 2012
Rillobymorning
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 12:16pmI agree. I never understood why Bill O‘Reilly has Juan Williams host his show when he’s gone. That‘s like Bush asking Obama to mind the farm while he’s on vacation. Please!
Report Post »ratizbad
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 2:53pmThe two idiots get paid to be idiots.Boys how do you like being lied to..I don’t
Report Post »ChappellGirl5
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 9:17pmI like the fact that Fox has a liberal viewpoint & liberal guests, that way I can see all the back-pedaling, side-stepping & hemming & hawing for what it is. I won’t watch the other cable news stations because I get nauseated any time I see one of their smirking anti-conservative stories & their soft shoe treatment of any liberal failure. At least on Fox the questions to both sides have substance & when you watch the liberals turn into pretzels trying not to answer direct questions you can see the phoniness so clearly, especially when it’s compared to the usual conservative straightforward answers.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:44pm@Mutiny
Report Post »If you can’t stand 0bama, why are you voting for him? Be truthful now. You know as well as anybody else that your write-in vote will be a vote for 0bama, no matter what you choose to call it or how you want to spin it.
Mutiny
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:01pmI will not vote for Obama. Romney is no different from Obama so he also hasnt earned my vote. I am sorry I take pride in my vote. I think it stands for something, or at least it used to. I am dismayed at the fact the GOP has moved so far left you are practically sitting with Bill Clinton.
Your candidate Romney is the worst GOP candidate on record. Personally I will never vote for a pro choice candidate. I believe doing so puts me in trouble with God. So that completely eliminates Obama. That really eliminates Romney also. If you go to YouTube and view the speeches Romney about abortion you can clearly see he is only pro choice for political reasons. Hell on Meet the Press he actually said he was pro life from a “political perspective”.
So to answer your question I cannot vote for Obama or Romney because of my faith. Now you can say my vote helps or hurts whoever. The point is Romney is terrible. Knowing what I know about Romney and still voting for him in my opinion is a sin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAqSWoBGBTM&feature=related Romney on Meet the Press.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:11pm@Mutiny
The fact is, YOU ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA. There is no sensible way to deny that.
If you do something and you know what the results will be, you are doing it on purpose. What you’re doing is no more moral than going in the voting booth and pulling down the 0bama lever. NO DIFFERENT WHATSOEVER.
Report Post »happ77
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:18pmMutiney, noble but not practical. Alot of us
Report Post »voted for Perot thinking the same thing
and what we got was Clinton. This time
it will be much worse. We have to give
Romney a chance or we have no chance.
RejectFalseIcons
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:37pmI stand with Mutiny on this. The GOP has failed (yet again) to provide a suitable candidate that lines up with my stance on the issues at hand:
He will NOT curtail spending.
He will NOT abandon mandatory healthcare
He will NOT bring home the troops
He will NOT help states stand on their own two feet
He will NOT rescind Obama’s order to extend the patriot act
He will NOT fight for the rights of the unborn
He will NOT uphold and defend the constitution of the United States of America.
A vote for Romney is a vote for the status quo. A vote for Obama is a vote for the status quo. I refuse to vote for a candidate who stands for the status quo.
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:39pmSays who…You???
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:40pm@happ77
You’ll never convince them that 0bama is any worse than Romney ……. or Santorum, or Bachmann, or Cain or anybody else who doesn’t happen to be Ron Paul.
I have read the materials they get that stuff from. You wouldn‘t believe some of the insane garbage that they’re allowing to be poured into their heads.
Report Post »pudssweetie
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 6:17pm@ Mutiny, I just watched your youtube video and golly gee I could swear that I heard Romney say that a Life begins at Conception. Yepm I just watched it again and sure enough he said that life begins at conception which means he is Pro Life, not Pro Choice….Try again.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 6:28pm@pudssweetie
“I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970, as a US senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it. And I sustain and support that law, and the right of a woman to make that choice.” Mitt Romney
Report Post »mrsuperpat
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 6:53pmAnd your vote for Romney is a vote for more Obama as well. All of it’s constitutional shredding glory. Make sure you wear your flag shirt on election day comrade.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 9:30pm@qp
I dont see it that way at all. I think a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama’s polices. These guys are clones, unless you dont believe the countless videos of Romney in his own words.
To quote you “If you do something and you know what the results will be, you are doing it on purpose.” Your point makes my point. Romney doesnt cut current spending levels. Even if he adopts the Paul Ryan plan we in 2022 we have 24 trillion in debt a 50% increase. So by your own definition you are voting for the destruction and bankruptcy of our country on purpose?
Report Post »ultor-de-deus-exercitus
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 7:45amI also will not vote for the photo-negative of Obama. Romney is a socialist, Romney-care is socialism, and medical costs in Mass. have gone up over 80% since 2006. America is toast.
Report Post »They want the AMERO, Romney will give it to them.
They want more international control over our sovreignty, Romney will give it to them.
They want an OPEN BORDER, Romney will give it to them.
A write in vote for Paul is not a vote for Obama, that is simply the cult-mantra of the Mormon Rombie-zombies.
williemcd
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:18pmMute… Perot lost Bush his second term, voting for Paul gives the Marxist in office his second term. Sometimes we have to plug our noses and do what’s best for the country!… Standing on principals is commendable but would prove to be fatal to our way of life.
Report Post »Years ago, much to my shame, I did vote for Perot…
For my Liberty!
Posted on July 7, 2012 at 7:01pm@ Mutiny…..IF you don’t vote for Romney to get OVOMIT OUT OF OFFICE….that is EXACTLY what you ARE doing–VOTING FOR A PRO CHOICE CANDIDATE, because IF you don’t vote for Romney, then you might as well GIVE YOUR VOTE TO OVOMIT–and it will be YOUR FAULT if he gets reelected!!!
NO one can fix the mess in ONE cycle….the FIRST thing is to get OVOMIT OUT—and KEEP WORKING to make things better….Your IGNORANCE astounds me…..REAL easy to say …I REFUSE to lower my standards….but you HAVE no standards if you DO NOT VOTE FOR THE GOP nominee!
Report Post »HKS
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:40pmThis was a typical liberal interaction, and I might add that this is why I wish they would just leave these guys at home. Ask them a question and they answer with another question about something totally unrelated to the topic. They talk in circles saying nothing.
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:50pmI too am floored as to why they (FOX) continues to invite these parasites on the show.
To point out how stupid they are? Fox is too polite to tell these people to just shut the ___ up
If I were Bill O’Rielly – I would have punched someone in the face a LONG time ago.
(Like that woman from “DROP THE ”I“ WORD” program)
eeewwwwwww…….. THWAP!!
Report Post »Nevermind
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:39pmMutiny
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:12pm
Is anyone supporting Romney actually dumb enough to attack the left for flip flopping? The hypocrisy is stunning. I cannot stand Obama but good God you people amaze me.
*********
You refer to them as people and that is the problem. As much as the TEA/GOP like to call the left sheep they are the ones that are sheep. The TEa party was supposed to be about core values and getting a conservative in office yet they all support Romeny? It just shows the TEA party is just the old tired GOP more worried about gaining power than their principles.
Then again this is the same crowd that get their interpritation of the constitution from a drug addict , drunk with a high school diploma and are surprised they are wrong over the Supreme Courts rulings. When stupid people are led by a stupid person you end up with Romney
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:47pmIMO, Romney was the most progressive of the original 9 or so candidates. The fact that the republicans chose (or allowed) him to win speaks volumes to the state of the republicans
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:49pmWe tried to vote someone else in but the establishment is still too big as yet, we’re not necessarily happy with our choice but it damn sure beats yours hands down!
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:56pmAnd by the way, the lay persons are the sheeple, TEA Party are the Sheep dogs and the left are the wolves who lie to convince the people they must rely solely on the gov’t to cure their ills, get fed, etc. Hasn’t been that way for 230-some years, no one else has solved the problems of the world with socialism so why should we try it?????????
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:57pm@Nevermind
We are not “led” by anybody. It’s Paulbots who are led.
Your choices are Romney and 0bama. One of them WILL BE president. The Paulbots have chosen 0bama.
Please don’t try to give me that insane “they’re all the same” lunacy. That’s something your messiah has brainwashed you with.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:01pm@Iamnotanumber
Then how/why did they allow an establishment to appear. And why was that establishment a progressive one?
The solution is to disband the republican party and form a new one – one based on the principles of the tea party. History should tell us that following the republican path will only lead to more destruction
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:31pmIt is in the works but it will not happen in one voting cycle it will take many many years. Do not give up, ever!! Local Tea Parties are vetting and fielding candidates locally and they will over time make their way to washington in time, be patient and active and make a difference when you can!!!
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:38pmOr to put a finer point on it…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tMv5uj0odM
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:57pm@amnotanumber
i really don’t get you, You just linked to a quote: “One Does Not Simply Walk Into Mordor”
Did you watch the movie? That quote turned out to be completely false. That guy was looking on the outside and wanted to take a more ‘patient and measured’ approach (he actually turned out to be part of the problem)…. Froto decided to go straight into Mordor and vanquish the power once and for all. Ironically, that is also Ron Paul’s position – we need to make drastic changes or else we will fall the same way generations have fallen in the past.
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:48amsoybean,
Dude, you really need to put down the cheetos and get out of the basement once in a while. We’re not playing dungeons and dragons here. Our national identity is at stake.
That being said, I find your referencing LOTR refreshing and comical.
Report Post »JohnHW
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 11:43amNeverMind: I have not joined a Tea Party, but my vote will be for Romney because letting Obama back means that we probably will not have the America I fought for back in the ’60s/’70s. While Romney is by no means my 1st or 2nd or 3rd, or even 4th choice, but letting Obama back in leave me with NO CHOICE, so, Romney has my support and vote.
A vote for a candidate who doesn’t have a chance to win, is a vote for Obama – no matter how you sugarcoat it. Therefore, I will not vote for Paul, or any other candidate. To do so would be throwing away my vote and putting Obama back into office. Don’t count on voting in someone else in 2016, I doubt that we will even have a country by then, much less a vote. Obama, I believe, will be another Chevez. Only he has Soros and the unions behind him.
Report Post »TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:36pmThanks Megyn! Let’s see, IRS, April 15th and you do not have health insurance…you will be stuck with huge penalties and placed in jail if you DO NOT pay it…that is a TAX! So, let’s hear some more doublespeak, Mr. President…
TEA
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:52pmOh it’s much better than that. See what happens now that it’s a tax is that the Federal Government gets the money, NOT the Insurance companies who were meant to get the money in order to pay for the “pre-existing conditions” stipulation which inturn was meant to keep premium prices from skyrocketing. NOW..the Federal Government has that money because it’s a tax. You tell me what happens to premium prices then.
Report Post »vadale
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 12:21pmDid you see that guy? Just like every lib puke on tv, he lied and lied and lied…..I don’t care if you have an R or D or I by your name. If you lie i’m gonna say your a liar……You Liberal pukes.
Report Post »TeaDestroyer
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:35pmHopefully mr Murdoch will grow a pair and instruct his FOX people to call out Romney for his flip-flops, lack of integrity, progressive governing, etc. This preacing to the choir nonsense will just get Obama elected to a second term.
Report Post »TomSawyer
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:33pmNo matter what party wins next election, a control freak is going to be president. They want to rule over us and tell us what we can do, and what we can’t do. America no longer exists. They are no longer public servants, we the people serve our government. Yes, master.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:44pmI see a lot of progressive in our future
Report Post »Minarchian
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:28pmIf it IS a “tax” then it is automatically unconstitutional
That is because bills dealing with taxes MUST originate in House.
This Obamatax law originated in the Senate…therefore it is unconstitutional.
Report Post »DMANFLA
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:48pmThat was my question also. So if it did originate in the Senate, then you are correct.
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:27pmWell looky, looky a Harvard Law school club president, “Constitutional Scholar”, and law license surrendering buffoon of a President let some one else write his “signature legislation”, who took out the severability clause, and changed the wording from tax to penalty. Wow that’s what it must feel like to shoot yourself in the foot. Do your own work with trusted advisor‘s and these things won’t happen to you Barry.
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:26pmI don’t want Socialism – and I will FIGHT anyone with all I have to stop it here in America.
It doesn’t work. Proven TIME and TIME AGAIN.
PERIOD.
Who’s with me?
Report Post »JOMAR100
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:39pmI’m with you!!
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:44pmyou are not alone
Report Post »berycuda71
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:45pmH$$l, I am wholeheartdlt with you and will take out as many as I can before I am taken out
Report Post »skiz
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:50pmI am!!!
Report Post »Arc
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:44amWith you all the way to hell and back ( thanks Audy Murphy )
Just a couple quick thoughts
. What would these Wall St haters think would have happened if the banks had never materialized?
Report Post »Were they ever taught anything about the free enterprise system and basic economics?
Conservative New Yorker
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 10:59amCount me and DH in!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 12:28pmI’m in … 5 X Great Granddaughter of an American Revolution PATRIOT.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:24pmAm I the only person who thinks that a penalty is worse than a tax? I know all the political BS behind this debate – but I would rather be “taxed” than “penalized”
Anyways, the solution is not to call it a “tax” or a “penalty”….The solution is to call it an unconstitutional monster – which seems to be the only thing Romney refuses to call it
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:09pmOh not true, he agreed with the dissent which found it unconstitutional…
“Well, the Supreme Court has the final word. And their final word is that Obamacare is a tax. So it’s a tax. They decided it was constitutional. So it is a tax and it’s constitutional. That’s the final word. That’s what it is. …
“I said that I agreed with the dissent, and the dissent made it very clear that they felt it [the health care law] was unconstitutional. But the dissent lost. It’s in the minority. And so now the Supreme Court has spoken.
“There’s no way around that. You can try and say you wished they would have decided in a different way, but they didn’t. They concluded it was a tax. That’s what it is.”
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:28pmCome on man. You are not even looking at his OWN QUOTE. Romney says it is constitutional because the supreme court said so….
“So it is a tax and it’s constitutional. That’s the final word. That’s what it is. …”
Those of us who consider ourselves conservatives/constitutionalists/tea party KNOW that just because the supreme court says it is constitutional does not make it so. Did you know the supreme court did not find a single law unconstitutional from 1937 to 1997??? I CANNOT VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO THINKS OBAMACARE IS CONSTITUTIONAL JUST BECAUSE THE scotus SAID SO.
Is it constitutional to make every american buy the federal government retirement plan? (social security)
Is it constitutional to allow americans to kill the unborn? (abortion)
Is it constitutional for the government to tell my school how to teach the kids? (DOE)
You dont have to be an extremist to understand this position. The supreme court has been wrong in the past. They thought it was constitutional to own slaves….To discriminate among race….To put Asians in detention camps. Romney can AT LEAST make the historical argument. But he doesnt – and I cannot vote for that
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:34pmYYYEEEEEUUUUUUPPPPP!!!!!!!
Report Post »Sorry, I‘ve been watching too much ’Storage Wars’ lately. Once again, I think you are picking nits on this one. Tax, penalty–Doesn’t matter. SCOTUS has ruled and that’s the end of it. Romney says his system was a penalty. Of course YOU will say that is worse since you are so anti-Romney. But I digress. The big difference here is that every single person alive, and maybe dead, in the USA will have to participate in obamacare in one form or another. And forget about the tax on not having insurance–that’s just one of the 20+/- taxes contained in the bill. I’ll take romneycare anyday(conceptually speaking) since it is STATE specific and requires only those who are freeloading off the STATE’S taxpayer to pay the penalty. And, hey, if someone doesn’t like it they move or vote in folks to change the STATE system. How can we get away from obamacare? It can‘t be done since it’s nationwide. Romney has vowed to remove obamacare when he is elected. If we give him a conservative senate to go with the conservative house he will do that and much more.
Mutiny
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 11:47pm@jsc
I know it was way back 3 years ago but do you remember Romney saying he was “glad” Obama was copying his idea?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvwwWkzO82g
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:27amAh, Muttiny, Muttiny, Muttiny,
My question for you–Do you remember 3 years ago? You see, you‘re just vomiting up the pap you’ve been fed by anti-Romney agents. In this case the video is a poorly edited hatchet job by a pro-Santorum group. You know how editing can go, don’t you?(think zimmerman). Did you even listen to the video? Romney was clearly commenting on obama’s idea of using an INSURANCE EXCHANGE to provide health insurance to all. NO WHERE was obamacare in its current form mentioned. The whole idea of Romneycare was for the private sector to be the basis for coverage and then a penalty assessed to those who were freeloaders(and don’t give me that “it’s a tax not a penalty” crap comparison to obamacare. SCOTUS was only addressing the national law, not the state program.)
It resulted that obama didn’t go with an insurance exchange program and instead went for the monster abomination of obamacare.
Muttly, really, as an obamaton troll you should be able to come up with somethning better than this, eh?
For everyone that is seeking the truth about Romney, go to this site, http://whyromney.com/, do your own research and make up your own minds. Posts like Muttly’s are only trying to divide the conservative vote and get obama re-elected.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:21pmAt this point I don’t care what the H*LL they call it. REPEAL is the only solution now. Time for another look at Crowder’s peak into the Socilalized medicine all LIBERALS love so much, like in Canada? http://youtu.be/q2jijuj1ysw
Report Post »Dream33
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 3:02pmarnt you the guy who ran out of British Columbia,when even the ndp got fed up with your bs?
Report Post »Mr Sanders
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:21pmI think the bigger question is …. what IS ‘truth’ in the current administration’s eyes?
Good on ya Megyn!
Here‘s the big ’IF’ problem; Romneycare vs Obamacare.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:29pmRomneycare and Obamacare are two sides of the same coin
Report Post »TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:41pmIf a state wants socialized medicine (Massachusetts or whoever) then I say go ahead…see how you do (which it will go bankrupt just like Medicaid, Medicare and citizens will leave your state) , but to force ALL Americans to purchase government healthcare dispensed by the feds is just that – FORCE. This is UNconstitutional.
TEA
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 5:07pm@TEARS FOR AMERICA
You are wrong on that. We have the same constitutional protections from the states as we do from the federal government. Think about it….The states cannot take away our free speech or religion, can they?
If Obamacare is unconstitutional on the grounds that it violates our natural right to buy or not buy healthcare – then it is unconstitutional for ANY state to do the same. How did this come about? Fourteenth Ammendment: “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States”
No level of government can violate your rights
Report Post »pudssweetie
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 6:46pm@ Soy, WRONG, there is a big difference between Romneycare and Obamacare. Any given State can pass a law that requires it’s residents to have something, that is the States rights. Obamacare is forced on everyone, even those who do have health insurance because they still have to pay the tax no matter what. Romneycare was not forced down peoples throats like Obamacare was, Romneycare was decided by the people of MA when it was on the ballot. If Obamacare was put up for a vote and was up to We The People, Obamacare would have gone down in flames.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 6:52pm@pudssweetie
I guess the idea of natural rights and constitutional protection means nothing to you. Dont look to the constitution when your state starts taking away your guns
Hitler was popularly elected
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:41amSighhhh,
Report Post »Pudsweetie, you just can’t teach an old dog not to smell bad. Soybean has drank the paul-ade so much he can’t even think straight. States will NEVER take guns away from folks since it is a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. However, the CONSTITUTION does not prevent the STATES from enacting laws that are germane to their residents. Hence, P&C laws(for soybean that’s like car insurance), Health insurance laws, property taxes, etc. But don’t despair, there are only 4-5 obamaton paulbot trolls on the Blaze to (not) worry about. The rest of the folks know the score and will help get obama out and Romney in.
soybomb315
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 8:32am@jsciai
So you agree that our constitutional rights apply to states as well? If the answer is yes – that proves my point.
I know you guys immediately think of car insurance, but owning a car and driving on public roads is optional – and not a constitutional right or part of our natural rights
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 9:37amsoybean: SIGHHHHHH( I seem to be doing a lot of that lately).
First off, did you ever learn about sets and subsets in elementary school math? Perhaps you are a product of public education, but that’s another topic.
Here you go:
Pursuant to the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it (The Constitution) to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” In addition, The Bill of Rights would supercede any state or local government law. As to ‘natural’ rights, I’m assuming you are referring to those rights given to man by God Himself–the right to choose, the right to live, the right to peace and joy, etc. However, man can live in such a way as to lose these rights: I can choose, but I can’t deny the consequence of that choice.
So, I guess those rights/freedoms/powers covered in the Constitution apply to all. The rest are RESERVED to the states or the people. Sets and subsets.
Granted, the 10th ammendment has been taking a beating over these last few decades(obamacare was a kick in the teeth), but it is still on the books. Hopefully, when Romney gets elected, we can start back to a more conservative interpretation of the Constitution.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 11:48amNotice the tenth amendment is not talking about rights….It is talking about POWERS. Meaning the federal government cannot do anything not mentioned in the Constitution. But you are not understanding my point….
I ask you – what do you think protects a STATE from infringing your constitutional rights? The answer is not in the tenth amendment (as I just said, the tenth amendment is a tool to prevent federal government from doing things). What prevents STATES from taking your property, guns, religion, etc??? The history is that initially, the STATES could do ANYTHING they wanted to – including taking away your guns, silencing your speech, even establishing religion. But then along came the 14th Amendment….
“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States”
There it is – States are not allowed to violate your constitutional rights – the same constitutional rights that are protected from the federal government!!!! The states are NOT allowed to do whatever they please
So put on your thinking cap. Why is Obamacare unconstitutional? Two options…..
Report Post »1.) Unconstitutional because the constitution does not explicitly grant the power to the federal government. You can take this position (and I agree with it) but then you must realize the supreme court has just authorized it under taxing authority – therefore you cannot continue to make the argument that it is still unconstitut
soybomb315
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 11:49am2.) Obamacare is unconstitutional because it violates our natural human rights. Money is personal property and the government cannot force you to spend it. Now, remember what I said above (14th ammendment) – If it is unconstitutional for the federal government to do this – IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR A STATE TO DO IT.
I am not your enemy – i urge you to use reason and common sense. I want the same thing as you – i just dont think we have 20 years to get there
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:40pmSoyBo-
Report Post »Dude, I totally agree with you on obamatax and have said so many times. I FEEL obamatax is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. BUT, It doesn’t matter what I THINK! SCOTUS has ruled and that’s the end of it. Now that it has been ruled constitutional and tax, congress and the new president can go about repealing that law/tax. That is where we are. I won’t fall into your trap on romneycare. Different animal. And you know what? Straining at gnats while swallowing the paulbot camel will not get obama un-elected. Onwards and upwards for me and others who will not let obama have another term. If he does get one there will be no going back on obamatax. That is why Romney will win the election, get a majority in the senate, preserve the majority in the house and start cleaning up this mess. While I appreciate your thinking it is more theoretical than practical in this instance. I’ve got to live in the real world and for me that demands getting obama out.
Romney 2012
soybomb315
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:56pmThat’s fine – But it is dangerous to put so much faith in the supreme court. The supreme court has been wrong lots of times throughout our history. Did you know they did not declare a single law unconstitutional from 1937 to 1997?
The supreme court thought it was constitutional for people to own other people (slaves). They thought it was constitutional from John Adams and Abraham Lincoln to arrest people against free speech/press. They thought it was constitutional to round up Asian Americans and put them in detention camps. They think it is constitutional to kill an unborn person (abortion).
The supreme court is nothing more than a lump of clay – they form their opinions based on public perception and awareness. I REFUSE to accept the Romney position that it is constitutional just cuz the supreme court says so. That is another reason why I think he is unqualified to be the next republican president. I will only vote for people that I agree with. I’m not looking for it to be Ron Paul, but it has to be someone in Rand Paul/Demint territory
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 7:18pmDemint? I really do like that guy. No sarcasm here. We need more like him.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:19pmThey keep trying to dance around the tax/not a tax matter due to the fact, no matter which way they go, they are in deep, boiling hot water with the people of the nation.
Report Post »johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:16pmI‘d advise her guests that maybe Megyn’s not too big; but, she’s got big friends!
The Ayatollah Obama and his people have read all the old Nazi books on mass manipulation. The Third Reich’s expert in propaganda, Goebbels, counseled to a simple tenant: “Tell a lie often enough and the vast majority will gradually begin to accept the lie as fact.”
The MSM has aided and abetted the Ayatollah’s propaganda machine by suppressing discussions about Fast and Furious, the ruinous federal spending, Obama’s association with “unindicted co-conspirators” from the HLF terror trial and our crazy, zig-zag foreign policy.
Telling lies about what the Solicitor General’s arguments were in front of the SCOTUS is really small potatoes. Most of the great unwashed roll over, hit their snooze button and wait unknowingly for the time when gasoline is $25.00 per usg and the government has frozen your accounts.
Report Post »JOMAR100
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:40pmAbsolutely correct..
Report Post »variable51
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:15pmBut the pres always wants it both ways, which is why he must go. He is too much of a reptile for clear thinking people.
Report Post »snapperman
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:12pmDemocrats have become abject liars.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:26pmDemocrats are the party of evil
Republicans are the party of stupid (or hypocrite)
Neither is any good for this country
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:12pmIs anyone supporting Romney actually dumb enough to attack the left for flip flopping? The hypocrisy is stunning. I cannot stand Obama but good God you people amaze me.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:43pmI like how everyone stayed away from the Romney flip-flop article. It tanked on theblaze list
hear no, see no, speak no flip flopping
Report Post »DIR
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 9:38pmWell, if Romney is a flip flopper, I like him much more than the O flip flopper. On top of being a flip flopper, O can’t tell the truth. I‘ll let some other respondent here do a short or long list of O’s lies. In fact, O makes used car salesmen seem respectable. So I’ll take my flip flopper over the O flip flopper all day long, actually I’ll take Romney for several years if I have to. “O’s got to go!” O is like a bad stink that won’t go away.
Speaking of stink, I’ll never forget once when in the countrysided with a liberal who had just unknowingly stepped in a huge cow pie then saying: “Love that smell of fresh air.” On top of being funny it was a teachable moment If you like the smell of cow crap and call it fresh air that’s choice the choice of liberals. That’s not my cup of fresh air. Does Febreze make an air freshener that smells like cop crap? If they do, pic up a can and send it to a liberal near you. They just love it, like all the other crap that defines liberalism.
Report Post »Rock_Moninoff
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:09pmWhy is everyone in the Obama administration so Gay?
Report Post »freedoc
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:05pmSpin. Nothing more.
Democratics and their benefactors will decieve and twist anything( and everything) to push their agenda.
Its mindboggling how Americans eat this stuff up, without mastication, leave alone digestion, and spit out their idiotic talking points as if they were logical or factual.
It makes me want to upchuck.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:02pmBarry will never let facts and truth get in his way.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 4:01pmWhen you mess with Megyn,
Report Post »you may just your head handed
to you.
myway2112
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 12:41amI agree. Meagan is very much like my wife. She does not miss a trick. I would hate to argue with her. But she is spot on.
Report Post »BehindTheMouth
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 3:55pmTreating anyone like that who is part of the Oblunder regime is just plain out, old fashioned racist
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