Gary Johnson Wins Libertarian Party Nomination
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(The Blaze/AP) Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson is campaigning to win the White House as a Libertarian after receiving scant attention in the Republican presidential race.
Johnson easily became the party’s presidential nominee at the Libertarian national convention in Las Vegas on Saturday. He hopes to appeal to voters fed up with the traditional two-party system this November.
Johnson was a longshot candidate for the Republican presidential nomination when he announced in December that he would instead pursue the Libertarian ticket.
He won 74 percent of the vote on the first ballot in Las Vegas, an unusual showing of support. In 2008, Libertarian delegates needed six rounds of voting to pick a presidential nominee.
Johnson supports legalized marijuana, low taxes and immigration reform, having been elected New Mexico’s governor in 1994.
He wrote on Twitter: “Humbled to receive the LP Nomination; Ready to give America a real choice in Nov. @RonPaul @LPNational #TCOT.”
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Comments (306)
BurntHills
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:30pmwhat a selfish spoiled BRAT of a man, Johnson should be ashamed of himself… but he probably has a back-up vacation home overseas or in mexico or Canada to flee to if he causes obama to be re-elected. . even ONE SINGLE vote can win obama a 2nd term to kill murder destroy and finish off AMERICA. if Johnson causes obama to be re-elected, he will be the 2nd most hated man in America.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:46pmTotally agree. And with the Soros funds behind the union/ mob/ Chicago styled Obama reign, I wonder what is going on behind the scenes !
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:48pmyou know, romney could go after the libertarian republicans if he wanted to…But dont expect them to flock to romney when romney is going after moderates and independents
Report Post »Cosmos102
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:01pmI’m betting that disenfranchised Obama voters will be pulling the trigger for Gary.
Report Post »TRILO
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:05pmRather than blame Mr Johnson who gives voters an actual choice. Try blaming the RNC for putting another liberal, big government, anti freedom/liberty, corporatist RINO candidate as the Republican choice for 2012. Look at who has endorsed Romney and who is on his advisory committees.
After the Republican majority voted for such bills as NDAA, CISPA, drones, Patriot Act, The Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Bill that give IRS the ability to revoke passports, approving funding for the NSA site in Utah, etc I am done with the republican (Romney) establishment. I will no longer vote for party, I will vote for freedom and liberty. Tired of the same cr@p just different package. Sorry but I will be voting for Mr Paul and I may consider Mr Johnson.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:56pmThe funny thing is, I bet if Ron Paul would win the GOP nomination, the LP wouldn’t put forward a serious campaign. All of you who are worried about splitting the vote and giving Obama four more years, we all told you that you should have voted for RP. You would have voted for him because it’s ABO, right? So we would have had your vote. Now you‘ve got RP’s base supporters, libertarians, disenfranchised democrats, independents….
So who’s fault will it really be if Romney loses to Obama? Yours, for not supporting the Candidate that would rally EVERYONE together rather than a RINO who would not receive the split votes.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 7:59amWhy look in the mirror and blame yourself for continously voting for big government/big spending moderate progressives like Bush sr, Dole, Bush jr, McCain, and Romney when its so much easier to blame Gary Johnson. That makes perfect sense! But i‘m sure that NEXT time you’ll vote for a REAL conservative, right?
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 9:46amnone of these “anti-Romney” realize a vote for anyone else but the MAIN candidate against obama IS a vote FOR obama. we do not care who is up against obama as the main guy, WE did not get to vote for a nominee where we are, and we know one thing about 100% AMERICAN man Romney.. he is not a dog-eating muslim-sympathizing COMMUNIST since BIRTH
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 11:58amI’ll tell you what I do know, Burnthills. You have support the troops avatar and you’re doing the opposite. Unless you think our boys are fighting for freedom, the Constution or actual threats to our security. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlg45UcomRI&feature=relmfu
Report Post »Razlord
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 12:15pmdam nice video , thanks angry.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:29pmyou call it *chess*
Report Post »JiminOrlando
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:27pmTo those of you who seem to have a problem understanding what it means to have limited government intervention in all aspects of your life, you may want to watch the Libertarian party convention on C-Span tonight at 8:45 PM
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:06pmthanks man – i am watching now
the libertarians have a list of candidates and they have multiple rounds of voting until one person emerges (lost vote getter is eliminated each round). what an amazing concept!!! so much better than the way republican primary where they end up splitting votes and the moderate makes it through. this is the only proper way to pick a candidate
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 8:07amThe republicans here don’t have a problem understanding small government…..they reject small government. You cant support things like the NDAA and the patriot act and then claim that you support small government. You’re either for big brother or you are against big brother.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 8:56amDissentnow… All I hear them saying is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlg45UcomRI&feature=relmfu
Report Post »ALPAKA
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 1:01pmI wish Paul did not try to run on the Republican ticket, there are too many fundamental differences between Republicans and Libertarians, and this race has greatly confused the people that don’t understand the difference. Libertarians believe in maximum freedom, weither you are left or right thinking. The “drug” issue is a prime exanple. Conservatives believe no one should do drugs, so make it illegal for everyone. Libertarians believe, if your stupid enough to do drugs, do it, but don’t waste tax money on the “War on Drugs”, everone is responsible for their own actions, PERIOD.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:26pmi choose not to play the game (you call it monopoly, i call it old maid) – especially if the republicans nominate a guy who does not offer substantial change
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 11:49am“Hope and CHANGE”
” CHANGE we can believe in. ”
Seems I’ve heard that word somewhere.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:24pmsweet – i have an option in case the constitution party nominates a dud
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:30pmsweet – you have another option to ensure Obama gets re-elected. OH BOY!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:42pmsorry – i vote for people and principles instead of party. If you want to blame someone, blame your own party for nominating the most liberal of the republican candidates.
Establishment republicans knew this would happen – dont act suprised. The party wants to go after independents, not people like me
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:48pmREAL: think I know who Soy wants to Bomb….
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:55pmwho?
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:56pm@soy
You are correct. We republicans DO NOT want people like you, LIBERALS who parade around as conservative/Constitutionalist, but then champion every left wing talking point.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:08pmso then stop crying when someone says they are going to vote for johnson
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:26pm@soy
No crying here, just pointing out one liberal voting for another. BTW, what about Paul?
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:48pmEvery left wing talking point?
Republicans belief in social fascism and fiscal freedom.
Democrats believe in social freedom and fiscal communism.
I believe in freedom on ALL realms. Whether it be social or fiscal freedoms. So because I agree with what liberals deem as social freedoms I’m a liberal now? No, I just believe that the Constitution affords everyone freedom and makes no mention of anyone telling me, an individual, how to live my life socially as long as I don’t break laws. Similarly, I believe in fiscal freedom and responsibility such as lower taxes, voluntary/charitable safety nets and conservative budgets.
In other words, I truly believe in freedom, even if I won’t partake or necessarily endorse how people use such freedoms. If it doesn’t pr ick my finger nor pick my wallet….
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 2:08amtherealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:26pm
No crying here, just pointing out one liberal voting for another.
=================================
Sez’ the guy who is voting for Romney! (LMAO!)….
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 3:03am@ American Soldier
Exactly
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 8:22am@therealconservative
The real problem is that YOU republicans have been championing left-wing talking points, as well. You guys have been nominating big government/big spending moderate progressives for years (Bush sr, Dole, Bush jr, McCain, and now Romney) and then you guys get mad when people get fed up with the big government/big spending progressives that you nominate and vote libertarian or constitution party instead. Don’t get mad at people for voting their principles; get mad at the republican party for abandoning theirs
Report Post »tropolis
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:18pmRomney banned guns in Mass. Enough for me to say screw you. Can’t believe all you so called conservatives are backing an admitted moderate progressive in Romney. Wake the f up.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 12:01amI can’t believe so many Democrats are now backing a Far Left/ Marxist! The things you learn….
Report Post »Hossua
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 12:25amYou’re an idiot, Barber.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 9:28amHOS: coming from you, I consider that a compliment…
Report Post »spirited
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:11pmJeepers
–maybe Romney will ask Gary Johnson to be his VP?
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:36pmHere’s how my voting Ballot reads…
Please select 1:
Democrat: Barack Obama
Republican: Not Barack Obama
Independent: Barack Obama
Constitution: Barack Obama
Green: Barack Obama
Libertarian: Barack Obama
Socialist: Barack Obama
Not much of a choice.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:39pmJust think, if the republican party had allowed gary johnson into the debates and media – he would have not been disaffected and switched to another party.
Gary Johnson joining the libertarian party is blowback to the republican party for their earlier blackout of him. BLOWBACK. i suggest you get familiar with that term, it happens all the time
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:47pmmitt romney was in elected office for 4 years. how would you rate his time as MASS governor?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:20pmComrade Soy: Wow. So many distracting comments . You are so working overtime – which is surprising for a Democrat, union Lefty ! ( They like to clock in / out and sue ) You must be a member of the Obama re-election committee who would work overtime because their future employment rests on his being re-elected . Gotta be something in it for you. That aways fuels our Lefties.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:32pmnope – fueled by freedom and constitution. also scorned by a corrupt republican party whose only purpose is to win elections. blowback is a b!tch
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:32pmComrade Soy: sorry. you are either a Troll or a dysfunctional whatever. Bottom line : Obama wins. And that is the BOTTOM for America…
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 11:11pmbarber
i know how you like to name call and ignore discussion (alinsky style) – that is the hallmark of a progressive
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 11:20pmI don’t understand how someone who believes in adhering to the Constitution as a communist lefty….
Those of you who pretend to be for limited government and following the Constitution don’t realize that you piss on the Constitution on a daily basis, the parts that don’t matter to you. The core concept is that the Constitution limits our federal government, so anything they do that doesn’t comply with the Constitution is…. unconstitutional regardless if it benefits YOU or the other guy…. what’s so hard to understand that?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 11:49pmSoy: I m about as much as a “progressive” as you are a conservative Republican. Which is NONE ! Troll on. Have noticed you before. Am sure I will see your Media Matters/ Goebbels- styled comments again…Election 2012…even Obama “ officially ” announced today. Have you noticed that he campaigns 24/7 ? Hogs the media ? Imagine you are just part of the Never-ending bottomless pit of Democrat media Trolls…. I seriously worry about your future as you are probably young, disillusioned, brainwashed by Lefty professors, and an easy target for the Obama New Hippie Administration. Sad.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 12:14ambarber
beck talks about how the left will always reveal themselves by the way they attack and criticize others. you reveal yourself on every post
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 9:29amSOY: as do you. Alinsky 101…
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 10:56ami know you are but what am i….give me a break dude
Report Post »Mr Sanders
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:56pmThe very happenstance we complained about mid-campaign with Ron Paul – now we have Gov. Johnson as the third party issue.
Even if “our” candidate didn’t win during the primary process, and we’re sour about it, [ I am, I was, but moving on ] doesn’t mean that we run, literally run, to the next hole in the ground and place our head in it thinking everything is going to be alright!? There is a bigger picture here to consider.
Look. We all want change, and we want it now, but that’s just not going to happen. We’re only thinking about the next election. Our formidable opponents, at every level, are thinking 2-3 elections out; that‘s why we’re so far behind.
Its a chess game folks; 120 years in the making. Pieces on both sides are off the board but the game is becoming serious now. Each move we make needs to be thought out towards its conclusion. We need to stuff our emotions deep down, clear our heads, and get in the game!!
This 3rd party nominee in Gov. Johnson is a bad move.
I’ll say this- Candidate Romney IS NOT a Communist/Socialist/Radical bent on the ruination of America but a believer in the Capitalist system. His Conservatism is a bit questionable, but understands a balance sheet. Any businessman, small or big, would see the state the company USA Inc. is in and make some serious changes.
The only way to get back on course is to have the Lincoln Admin. & Congress – period. A 3-Way split ticket ensures America’s, the Republic’s demise.
Well
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:08pmI imagine they said the same thing when Goldwater was running. How long are you prepared to kick this can down the road? Furthermore, if you belive Obama is a communist, then you have to believe Romney is as well. They believe in the same policies.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:13pm“Candidate Romney IS NOT a Communist/Socialist/Radical bent on the ruination of America but a believer in the Capitalist system.”
a progressive is a progressive is a progressive…. same donors, same policy’s, SAME RESULTS.
he may believe in capitalism but its the same crony capitalism obama believes in… don’t expect any improvement, don’t expect the bad stuff obama has done to be undone.. they both move the country in the same direction… toward a unconstitutional dictatorship.
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Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:29pmcapitalism is a red herring. what we need is more freedom – freedom in our personal lives and freedom in our financial lives. romney thinks all business is good business but he fails to understand what happens when government runs the economy
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:34pmJust angry: if you honestly can not see the difference between Obama and Romney you are more than ” Just Angry. ” Refusing to sink to the level of our current Far Left Democrats, I will say no more…
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:49pm@soy
“capitalism is a red herring”
Spoken like a true liberal.
“romney thinks all business is good business but he fails to understand what happens when government runs the economy”
Romney knows more about running a business and the damage that government involvement will do than the ‘Liberaltarians’ ever could.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:53pmComrade Soy: Yes, you are a RED herring….and a Troll..
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:03pm@real
No, romney does not understand how the government corrupts private business. As a businessman, romney praised federal tax breaks and preferential loopholes. Nobody hates government intrusion more than libertarians – that was a foolish statement
barber – you always prove yourself to be incapable of discussion and i’m not gonna bother
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:06pmIt‘s not because you don’t want to sink to my level, it‘s because you can’t say anything. They’re identical. All either will give us is more debt, war and less freedom.
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:52pm@soy
Right, Ronmey has no idea about private business, eventhough he as be there most of the time. But Ron Paul knows all about government involvement (earmarks)
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:55pm@soy
Sorry, I forgot, you switched to Johnson a little while ago.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:59pmTRC, so would you agree that giving Obama a $700 Billion blank check is a good idea? That‘s what happens when you don’t earmark, which means to allocate funds, of spending budgets.
Would you rather that your representative place earmarks, that don’t add to the expenses of the bill, which would bring your tax paid dollars back to your home district so that your tax dollars can actually benefit you…. or would you rather it be given to President Obama so he can increase welfare checks by 10% (example)?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 11:13pm@real
i’ll either be voting for the constitution party candidate or gary johnson….depends who constitution party nominates.
you see – it all depends on who the best canddiate is. I will still support both candidates and i am not a simpleton like you
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 11:28pmTRC “Romney knows more about running a business and the damage that government involvement will do than the ‘Liberaltarians’ ever could.”
Is that why he supported TARP?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 12:06amAmerican Ha: Do you Trolls get points for being the last comment made ?
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 2:16amHow am I a troll when I’m stating an argument while you do nothing to refute it…. other than to call me a troll? I believe by simple definition, that would make you the troll. That would also make you a hypocrite. Which I doubt will be the first or last time you’ll be one….
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 2:17amtherealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:52pm
Right, Ronmey has no idea about private business, eventhough he as be there most of the time. But Ron Paul knows all about government involvement (earmarks)
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So does Romney though:
Romney (October 16, 2002): “I am a big believer in getting money where the money is….the money is in Washington….”
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 8:30am@Barber
“if you honestly can not see the difference between Obama and Romney”
Its hard to see the difference when Romney has been on every side of every issue. I do know that someone who supported gun control and the individual mandate probably shouldn’t be on the republican ticket.
Report Post »JiminOrlando
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:45pmI will now vote for Gary Johnson, and I just want to thank God for giving me someone to vote for that believes in the Constitution and freedom.
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:55pmAnd drugs, open borders and appeasement just like Ron Paul.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:09pm@JIM…
8^\> Why not just vote for Barack ?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:30pmbecause i dont think jim likes obama
Report Post »Chrison
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:43pm@JIMINORLANDO:
Johnson is going to get a small fraction of the vote, and likely will win few (if any) electoral college votes. So, put your vote to better use and vote for Obama as voting for anyone other than Romney will ensure Obama wins a second term.
I’m REALLY disappointed that the candidate I was supporting is no longer in the race. As well, I‘m just as nervous as everyone else about Romney’s “moderate” (to say the least!) positions and ability to flip-flop at the drop of a hat. But, I’m also a pragmatist who knows that an Obama second term will spell absolute disaster for America.
So, as much as I’m upset with the way things have turned out, my choice is simple… Obama or Romney? Given that choice, as distasteful as it is, I have to support Romney.
That’s the reality of the situation… deal with it!
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:45pmthen you are voting for obama because every single vote away from the main candidate against obama will be a vote FOR obama. and THAT is what obama is counting on.
pray you are a black or a muslim or both, because that is the only group that will be safe from obama’s communist agenda (until obama finds them useless) if johnson’s wasted votes hands him re-election. America will be plunged into a civil war –against destruction and communism– if obama is re-elected. then woe to anyone with their little mindless gary johnson ( aka ”I just voted for obama and the Death of America!”) bumper stickers.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:15pmYet Jim loves Barry. He will enjoy serving him for Uh EVER.
Report Post »Blazebanned
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:20pmFor you morons willing to vote for this crybaby,or paul, or anyone else out there but who the repubs nominate,are you stupid,or do you like having obamacommie as your president? just get odumbass out, not matter what, yes we are stuck with Romney the rino,but we dont need to devide our votes,sheesh people, grow a brain…….
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:29pmHow About You and all the other so called Republicans use your NDAA Kool Aid brains and vote for the third party candidate instead of settling for an Orange Obama lite?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:32pmBingo.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:47pmif everybody in the country votes their principals… and we still get evil, then we get what we deserve (the majority of us voted for it)
if everybody votes the lesser of two evils you guarantee we get evil (and show that we damn well do deserve it)
but if everybody votes their principals.. then maybe, just maybe, we restore the country to what it’s supposed to be… and get the constitutional Representative republic that we are supposed to have
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:54pmSo we should vote for someone with the same policies to get Obama out of office, so we can still have the same policies we hate? And yses I’ve heard it before. At least Romney’s not a commie, he’ll fix wellfare, he‘s a good businessman and at least he doesn’t eat dogs.
Report Post »deac0n
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:55pmbecause of your insults I be voting write in “ron paul” wow you didnt know you had so much power
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:19pmDeacon: if you are that “sensitive ” to criticism , hope you enjoy life under Big Brother. Enjoy life without your personal freedoms in the coming Third World America. Hope you are a “ minority ” because the majority are under serious attack with this crew’s policies. Amazing. Think I am becoming more of a fan of Hamilton and less of a Jeffersonian.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:51pm@barber
Funny you tell deacon to have fun with Big Brother when its your guy who supports big brother. If your stupidity wasnt so sad it would be funny.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:44pmMutiny: and if your comments were’t so Lefty parroted, they would be funny.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 11:23pmBARBER2 ” if you are that “sensitive ” to criticism , hope you enjoy life under Big Brother. Enjoy life without your personal freedoms in the coming Third World America. ”
How dare you threaten someone about losing personal freedoms in one breath then all us morons for not voting for a RINO who has no problem taking away out personal freedoms. He fully supports the Patriot Act and NDAA. Do you even listen to yourself?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 12:09amBarber I am being to think you dont understand what the Left and the Right are.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 8:42amThe patriot act and the NDAA is big brother. Romney supports both. If you support Romney then you support big brother. you can’t have it both ways.
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 12:11pmDo you not think that with the MILLIONS of people that have finally opened their eyes to what is going on over the past 5-6 years (I am one, I had NO IDEA that we were as far removed from the original design as we are and I’m not talking about the sheep like BARBER) that perhaps the time to yell back and forth about choosing which true constitutional conservative to put in the WH is after we at least slow the Communist machine’s march “Forward”. We have no other legit options right now besides Romney and Obummer. The people as a whole WILL NOT rally around a 3rd party no matter how much you want them to. So, vote Romney, get a bunch of new true conservatives in both houses, and force Romney to put 1-2 true constitution-backers on the SC (which he will more than likely get to do). Then we can go with someone that doesn’t have a suicidal foreign policy (like RP) so ALL true conservatives will back him. We finally have the numbers to make this happen, but if we don’t throw a tourniquet on to stop the hemorrhaging RIGHT NOW then all is lost…I know you are all voting with both your head and your heart (which is what all Americans should do EVERY election…and again, not talking about BARBER he can only seem to hurl insults) but you must join with us in order to even have a CHANCE to keep peeling this thing back until our REPUBLIC is whole again.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 2:23pmRomney will not put conservative judges on the SC. He has a crappy record of appointing liberal judges. Even if conservative, they won’t be originalist judges. Why would he appoint justices with this view when he obviously thinks the Constitution is outdated too?
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 6:20pmhe will be forced to, if we get more true conservatives in both houses. I don’t think they will allow a luke-warm judge to make it through…@ the end of the day we just don’t have a chance with anyone other than Romney. I will say this, however, if you all really do write in RP (which is your God given right and I will respect anyone who decides to take a stand w this election) then hopefully there will be enough folks in congress to make him a lame duck…maybe we’ll even get lucky enough that he will just keep going around congress until they have the balls to impeach him and end this anyway.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:15am@Usedczar (love the name) Man, I don’t think the congress will do much of anything. They’re part of the problem too. Look at what the freshmen senators and congressmen that road the Tea Party express into Washington have done since arrival. It didn’t even take them a year before they started voting against Tea Party principles. You’ll find that all of them other than Rand have voted against the Constitution at least three times. But, hey at least you’re not slamming me for voting my conscience.
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:51amI can’t blame you JUST, if it weren’t for (what I believe to be) his suicidal FP I would vote RP in a hot minute!
Report Post »HawkEyeTx
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:04pm#
Report Post »Oh krapy….we conservatives do NOT need this.
mils
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:26pmwhy?…I simply do not undrestand the ignorance of people.
Report Post »this means a second term for Obama…MAYBE obama’e people are sponsoring them!!
Why do we not have liberals in splinter groups like this?..and RoseAnne Barr is not a real splinter group….
The choice of a third party would be good…and possibly needed…HOWEVER, in this election it’s not merely an election..it’s our country at stake…whther people like Vanones, Ayers, Black Panthers , become the norm…unemployment, more taxes..
oBAMA really does need to be defeated and these splinter groups will not help defeat him and they will not win.. a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama
Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:01pmBetter choice than Obama or Obama Lite.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:30pmYeah, who isn’t?
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:58pmJohnson/Grey is a great ticket!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:49pmI’m probably voting for Johnson.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:32pmyou mean Obama………. same-same
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:21pmAgree. Think the legal pot issue will draw some away ! Yippee.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:54pmWell, I’m not certain yet. I realize we can’t change the trajectory in one fell swoop, but electing a Republican that same-same’s it not only sets the country back, but it makes it almost impossible for our side to gain ground in the future because we get the usual push-back saying, “See, Republicans are no different…”
It’s certainly not a pleasant time to be a traditional American. I just hope Romney understands the huge opportunity he will have. If he governs like a true conservative, he could have a bigger impact than Reagan.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 11:00am@repbulic/barber
Wow, that was a stunning and convincing effort on your part. You really made some good points, maybe enough to change his mind.
Are there ANY reasonable romney supporters around here?
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:45pmThe Democrats and Republicans have all become corrupt and incapable of managing the business of the people. It is time to go in another direction. I can’t in good conscience vote for the Republican leftist Romney. And I will never vote for a Marxist i.e. Obama. This leaves only the Libertarian candidate as the only choice. I know he has little chance of winning but both Obama and Romney will destroy what is left of the country I grew up in. I refuse to vote for someone that is going to destroy everything and everyone I love.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:56pmWhen you vote third party or cast a write-in vote, you ARE voting for 0bama. Just because it makes you feel better to deny that it doesn’t change the reality of it.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:11pmYeah yeah… Don‘t blame him for the GOP’s inadequacies. They knew what they were up against and refused to listen. I’m voting for freedom too.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:18pmQP – how right you are. If you’re not a troll and are seriously thinking about voting for him, with all due respect, don‘t think you’ve done your homework about Obama — something definitely wrong. I never was fond of Romney, either but so what? Do more research on what kind of evil monster Obama and his regime is and what they have in mind — Romney may not be ideal, but he is NO COMMUNIST and he does love the country. He will rid the Depts. of the Communists that run it now. Also, hopefully we’ll have a majority in both Houses that will nudge him more to the right if necessary. This should be a no-brainer for people who know the truth about Obama — your vote will only help elect him……
http://www.commieblaster.com
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:20pmLOL, not a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. I have tried to explain this many times. Romney cannot beat Obama without the Ron Paul supporters. The Ron Paul supporters will not support Romney. So that leaves you with a choice, vote for Obama/Romney or vote for Ron Paul.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:25pm@justangry
“I’m voting for freedom too.”
Well, you’re not going to get any freedom by helping 0bama.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:31pmI wouldn’t get any freedoms back with Romney.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:37pmThe NeoLibs should slither back to the Demorat party…… That is how you voted most life anyways
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:39pmA vote for Freedom is a waste of vote…… What a slogan.
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:42pm@mutiny
How is Ron Paul going to beat Obama, when he cannot beat Romney nor could he beat Santorum or Gingrich.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:50pmQP you are right for the most part…
But remember every leftist, and democrat that votes third party rather than Obama, is a vote for Romney!
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:52pmIs saving the Republic worth a $1.00 investment? Hollywood’s George Clooney is having a fundraiser for obama and it’s estimated to bring in 12 million dollars. If we all sent Mitt Romney $1.00 (12 million of us) to offset Hollywood it would tell them that we support our candidate. If we gave up one cup of coffee (McDonalds coffee for $1) we could do this.… last time around there were millions in donations coming from undisclosed sources for obama’s election and look what happened. Those of us that are not sold on Mitt Romney need to reconsider what 2013 will look like. If you are discouraged with the state of the country today, we ain’t seen nothing yet…… I cannot stand seeing that man’s face on TV, which is way too often, if he gets re-elected we’ll be forced to have huge monuments made in his honor and our children will be forced to sing his praises….
Report Post »When you vote think: President Romney or the alternative.
Hollywood is rich because you and I pay their salary by going to their movies and they can afford to give millions but the regular Joes, the American People, We the People could make a more powerful statement with, one person, one dollar.
SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:55pmI believe, it won’t matter who we get as a president… If we don’t reform congress, and put in some constitutionalists with spines in both senate and house that will put any president in check, if they try to get away with dictatorial power takevers…
Granted if we let Obama stay, and if congress fights him… I wouldn’t be surprised if he sent his army to disband congress… If the supreme court goes against him, disband them as well… That is why he has to go…
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:05pmI wish someone would explain how voting for the lesser of two evils will ever fix the problems we face? When you choose the lesser of two evils you are still choosing evil. Ron Paul has a lot of great ideas about domestic policies but, his foreign policies are dangerous and naïve. The two main parties i.e. Republicans and Democrats stopped working the people that elected them long ago. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:14pm“If we don’t reform congress, and put in some constitutionalists with spines in both senate and house…”
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>Yep !
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:25pmMOM and QP: agree. The Obama Trolls are trying to “ divide the dumb conservatives” with all of this talk. Conservatives MUST stand together. ANYONE, even a moderate conservative , is a better choice than Comrade Obama and his administration !
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:51pmI voted for Ronald Regan twice. I voted for (Poppa) George Bush twice. I voted for Bob Dole once. I voted for (son) George Bush twice. I voted for John McCain once. I have voted a straight Republican ticket every election since the late 1970’s. I have also seen our country wander farther and farther from its founding principles of freedom and the free market. It never seems to matter. I have worked for and helped give the Republicans control of the White House and Congress but, the government still moved to the left. I could not care less if I am called a TROLL!! I love freedom and I love this country and I no longer believe the people running the Republican Party are any better than the people running the Democrat Party. They both care only about their own wealth and power. We are on the wrong road and must turn the wheel.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:06pm@thereal
Your question “How is Ron Paul going to beat Obama, when he cannot beat Romney nor could he beat Santorum or Gingrich.”
Well think about it. Mostly only Republicans are voting in these primaries. Ron Paul attracts a lot of people from the middle and even some from the left with his anti war stance. Ron Paul has been getting 10% of the vote while it was being split between 4 candidates. Ron Paul gets zero support from the media on the right.
Now switch that around. Lets say Ron Paul comes out on top, then the ABO crowd gets behind him. Fox news and talk radio would get in line. He finally gets the GOP establishment on his side instead of constantly trying to change the rules to discredit him.
Next off, how does he do against Obama? Obama cannot run on his record. He cannot say Ron Paul is a clone of Bush policy. I would love to hear Obama explain and backtrack his failed policies overseas to Ron Paul since he has been on the right side off all of these issues. How can Obama say anything about economy without being crushed by Ron Paul.
With Obama/Romney you get:
1.No spending cuts. Bigger debt to China.
2.Continued wars.
3.No freedom regained and I am guessing more lost.
What you get with Ron Paul:
Report Post »1.Spending cuts. Less debt. A balanced budget.
2.An end to the pointless wars. Why are still in Afghanistan?
3.We get our freedoms back. No, NDAA, Patriot Act, CISPA,TSA, and the big enslaver the FED is gone!!!!!!
therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:10pm@mutiny
A few problems with you arguement.
Your basing a Ron Paul victory on Liberal support, that doesn’t hold with the Paul talking points that Romney=Obama, if your now saying that Paul=Obama.
Also Ron Paul is not going to end any government agency, unless he will go the Obama route and by-pass Congress.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:52pmMutiny: No. When you get Ron Paul you get : a lost election. Comrade Obama. Big Brother. 1984. And Bad Times. TROLL WAY…..
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 12:17am@thereal
Well lets see, if Ron Paul pulls all the ABO crowd, his supporters, and angry left he wins. If Romney pulls the ABO and the angry left he loses. Without Ron Paul its a loss for Romney. Lets not act like people are just so excited about Romney. The right is desperate for a NON Romney candidate. The only reason Ron Paul hasnt fit the bill is because the establishment and talk radio have too much to lose if Ron Paul is elected.
Think about this. Ron Paul is hated by the right, the left, talk radio, Fox, the LSM, and lobbyist. There is a reason for that. He isnt corruptible and he doesnt play their game. We are in trouble as a country. We need something different. You can vote for Romney in hopes of beating Obama, but its not going to happen.
unenthusiastic supporters + bad candidate = 10 point Obama victory
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 1:55amqpwillie
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:56pm
When you vote third party or cast a write-in vote, you ARE voting for 0bama.
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………….and when you vote for Romney, then you are voting for all of Obama’s policies.
Report Post »Freebird
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 11:26amI notice whenever someone on here makes excellent points about our current situation,they are completely ignored.While the game continues to be played of calling each other trolls and liberals or whatever.
Report Post »When are we going to realize that the republican-democrat two party system is all controlled by the same people.The only choice any of us have is to vote for freedom and liberty,not bigger government,or more of the same ol‘ same ol’. If we continue to put either side of the same coin in office,nothing will ever get better.
Last time around,we got McCain,this time Romney.I‘d be willing to bet next time we’ll get Huntsman.He sure stuck around a long time,for someone who wasn’t going anywhere.Ever stop to wonder WHY?
Go-rin-no-sho
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:43pmI’m curious: what would you guys think is so great about the GOP today?
Report Post »marine249
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:54pmcompared to the rest— not to bad.
in fact — a he!! of a lot better
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:00pmThe fact its being infiltrated with conservatives (TEA or otherwise) that will eventually transition to a more responsible government. While it’s getting nye near impossible to find a good Democrat since most are so far left, the only bad GOP are the big spending RINO’s. Look Whats going on with Hatch and Lugar….and people lose hope? ….strike that…lose faith?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:49pmGO: what is so great ? Answer is : an antidote to Obama and anti – capitalism / revolution / and Karl Marx ! Pretty simple really.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 8:51amRomney is the new leader of the GOP. Let’s see…..
Report Post »Big government, big spending, big warfare, big brother, domestic spy programs, individual mandate, and gun control. With the exception of gay marriage and abortion, the two parties are practically interchangeable.
Soundstorm
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:39pmNothing more humble than to represent the Libertarian Party in the age of Big Government. Especially when its John Birch wing under Ron Paul is agitating for all the attention. We really ought to be working to move the GOP in the Libertarian direction rather than allow Libertarian principles and ideals to be boxed into a tiny and insignificant partisan bloc.
Report Post »freedom_gurl35
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:56pmI couldn’t agree more!
Report Post »WeekendAtBernankes
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:17pmAs a Christian libertarian I can say that I’ve been more harassed by social conservatives than even the loony left. They throw tantrums if you disagree with them and they want to use the government to force their social views down the throats of everyone else in society. As much as they might pretend otherwise, it’s clear that they desire a massive government to enforce their views on society.
If you‘ve commented here long you know what I’m talking about. It’s not enough to not smoke pot, you have to support prohibition; it’s not enough to choose not to have an abortion, you have to advocate that no one can; it’s not enough to practice missionary sex with your wife, you have to call everyone who deviates a dirty pervert.
These people are liberal idiots, they just write different words on their signs.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:49pmThe problem is many so-called ‘conservatives’ are really just republican side of the progressives movement… Weird mix of neocon, liberal and right-wing policies…
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:21pmWeekend at Barry’s
Report Post »You should read the crap Ron supporters say about ANYONE not agreeing with them here. We are no better than DEMOCRATS in all their forms. So spare us the pity party all you RPer’s attend. Vote for Ron, Gary, Betty Boop or your dog, But whomever you vote for , if it’s not Mitt, you are voting for BARRY. Your smug jaws stuck in the air reminds me of ,, Uh , Eh Someone.
barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:41pm13th : the arrogance of our supposed Ron Paul Trolls outs them as Obama narcissist Lefties: the smart ( aleck- ist ) guys in the room. Trolling to fool the dumb, Bible thumping , proAmerican traditional values conservatives ! Can spot their rhetoric a mile away ! The “good job/ no class curve / no competition / gossip girl/ media crazed generation. The perfect targets for the Obama Media Manipulating Big Brother ! All surface . No substance .
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:37pmHopefull it will take votes away from Obama. This idiot want to legalize marijuan when booze is legal and causes so many problems. It will only cost more for the courts and rehabs, abandoned families and whatever goes along with pot usage. Booze is taking a toll already. This man is no better than Obama.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:13pmUnlike you I refuse to live with a government leash attached to my neck. I choose to not use drugs of my own free will. I reject being ordered being ordered by the government what I can and can’t do with my own body. You are a slave picking your master! Go ahead and grovel at the GOP alter! You will still be a slave!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:44pm@blackyb
Report Post »so if i understand your rationale – you think alcohol should be illegal too?
KidCharlemagne
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 1:50amblackyb
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:37pm
Hopefull it will take votes away from Obama. This idiot want to legalize marijuan when booze is legal and causes so many problems.
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You’d have lots BIGGER problems if booze were to become illegal again though:
“The following are Homicide rates for the years prior to, during, and following Prohibition of alcohol in the United States (according to “Murder Statistics from Statistical Abstract of the United States”, U.S. Dept. of Commerce). ”
Report Post »Prohibition: Killing is our business and business is good!
dissentnow
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 9:05amAnd while we’re at it, lets ban cigarettes, as well. Oh, and soda, and all other drinks that contain sugar, too. Sugar is also bad for our health. And lets have government enforced fitness tests. Yay, pass the carrot sticks! Having the government control our lives is fun!
Report Post »possom
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:36pmGod another politician. Do we really need them at all?
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:34pmDoes Dr. Paul have return rights and or first right of refusal…?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:33pmJohnson’s platform: Legalize dope…. AND THE CROWD ROARS!
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:38pmThe man is an appeaser or a pot user or someone using this to get dope heads to vote for him.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:42pmI think he will draw more Obama young dudes than Tea Party types !
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:45pmTime
you forgot ‘immigration reform’ or as we in Arizona call it ‘Open Borders’
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:02pmImmigration reform as a code word for dream ac (blanket amnesty for all who tresspass, come in illegally) as well as open borders and/or NAFTA?
As opposed to ‘true immigration reform’, along with more secure borders? I.E. Allowing more people in if they have proper paperwork, no criminal records, useful skills, etc, but also being strictor, and expelling them if they break the rules (expired visas, break laws, etc). At the same time not just allowing just any person into the country, more guards, and defensive measures along the borders etc?
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:18pm@sacred
‘true immigration reform’
Good liberal way to reframe it. It all boils down to ‘open borders’ since the ‘secure the borders’ part never seems to happen because the liberals, like you always are more concerned with a ‘path to citizenship’.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:19pmWhy Libertarianism is a Redundancy and Conservatism is Still the Answer http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2012/01/25/why-libertarianism-is-a-redundancy-and-conservatism-is-still-the-answer/
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:35pmSorry, I’m not a liberal… I don’t want any of the open boarders crap… I want the secured borders…
However, becoming a citizen the legal way is part of becoming a true American… The only ones who should be allowed in, are those who do it the proper way via paperwork, tests, giving the Oath of Allegience…
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;
that I will support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law;
that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law;
that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and
that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.
Illegals should be kicked out the instant they set foot over the border, fly in from the sea, come board on boats etc…
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
However, do you realize the way Obama is running things, its easier for illegals to stay in, than it is for people trying to get citizenship via the legal channels?
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:39pmYou aren’t suggesting total closure of the system, and not allowing any form of legal immigration and citizenship are you?
Because frankly that would be just wrong… I’m sure your ancestors like mine, ‘immigrated’ to this country in the past, and that they came through legal means… None of this backdoor trespassing crap…
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:44pmPerhaps you have a problem is with all immigrants as opposed to just the illegal and unlawful ones?
It has been my experience that true conservatives want legal immigration, we just want to ban all illegal and unlawful entry… We want to stop all of that blanket amnesty crap, that just ends up causing more illegal and unlawful entry (because they will ulmiately demand more amnesty)… The politicans on both sides have been doing this for years…
Remember even Ronald Regean passed his own “immigration reform’, that just ended up giving blanket amnesty to like 3 million illegal aliens… No sir, I’d like that kind of stuff to stop… But I dont‘ want to end legal forms of ’immigration’.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:51pmGary Johnson on
Immigration
America is a land of immigrants. Legal immigration should focus on making it easier and simpler for willing workers to come here with a temporary work visa, pay taxes, contribute to society, and fill jobs as the market demands.
As the former governor of a southern border state, I know fences and walls do not keep out illegal immigrants. Real border security means knowing who is coming here and why.
With workable employer verification systems, smarter border enforcement, and common sense, a national problem can be turned into a national benefit.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:00pmThe NeoLibs are waste of time…. a collection of closet Ultra-Liberals, Druggies, Code Pink, Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Holocaust Deniers, 9/11 “Truthers” and other paranoid and discredited conspiracist. And don’t forget their Anarchist/OWS cousins (The other white meat)
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:02pmWell, he has a point… If you build a wall, they’ll just dig under it, or climb over it (or around it, if there are any gaps)… If you build a moat they’ll just swim through, or float over it… If you put up electric fences, electronic motion-sensing machine guns, land mines, alligators, and vicious attack dogs… They’ll call you a toltalitarian regime, and sue/sanction the country, cause its ‘against the hague and/or geneva conventions’, blah blah…
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:23pm@sacred
Like a true liberal you equate illegal with legal. But here along the border it’s different. BTW here is Wrong Pauls stance:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/republican-security-council/if-you-want-open-borders-no-fence-and-increased-illegal-immigration-ron-paul-is-/192361047529741
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:21pm@time2
if i can go back to your original post….
Yes, if legalizing dope is the price to pay for a constitutional government that promotes freedom and states rights – yes – hell yes. Otherwise, we will never get there
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:15pm@soy
I can see the founders now, ‘If only they went back to having opium dens”
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 7:46amhttp://www.glennbeck.com/content/tvshow/2011/05/beck-4-keys-to-immigration-reform/
As Glenn Beck puts true “immigration reform”, and I agree with him.
1. Secure our borders: ID checks for everyone such as the Arizona law is trying to go for is a good way to do this, many illegals were leaving Arizona as soon as Arizona law went into place. Crack down on us businesses that refuse to comply with the laws.
2. Support our border agents (let them do their work, and send illegal immigrants back home). Let national guards defend themselves with loaded weapons if necessary.
3. Enforce US law (the laws that we already have on the books prevent illegal immigrants from coming in)
4. Make “Legal” immigration easier. “For those who want to come in and be an American..
Legal does not equate ‘illegal’ trespassers from other countries…
“Legal immigration enhances our nation, illegal immigration tears it part.”
Obama’s adminitration “encourages illegal imigration, while discouraging legal immigration”, and as Glenn Beck pointed out that is rightfully wrong.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 8:00amBTW, you you speak like a true progressive alinksy-style liberal, and we know that progressive rinos exist on the republican party…
Just a few points from Rules from Radicles…
You seem to be using a few…
5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
You have at least that rule down pat…
You are also pretty good at;
13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
Report Post »groundzero
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:33pmSounds like a ball baby to me
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:33pmDoes Dr. Paul have return rights and or first right of refusal?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:31pmHey, all of you so-called Ron Paul dudes who post here, here’s your man ! That is, if you’re really not going to vote for Obama !
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:49pmHey all of you so-called tea party/conservative/patriots dudes who post here, your man Romney is not much different from Obama!!! You are voting for the same policies as Obama!!! Why not just vote for Obama? Are you racist?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:14pmWether they vote for Gary, Ron, or Barry it’s still a vote for Barry, And Oblivion for America
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:31pmRomney is NO Far Left ( Whatever they are calling themselves ) Democrat like Obama. This will certainly confuse the Ron Paul Trolls who post here. Oh, they’ll probably just keep saying that preposterous bit about Obama and Romney being the same ! The Big Brother aspect of Obama is so unlike any even moderate conservative. Obama is more like Marx and Lenin with all of that ” anti-rich/ fat cat/ bakers/ CEOs ” rhetoric and his Big Brother anti Supreme Court jabs , his ” do-nothing ” congress , his phony crisis talk, and his Executive Orders . Obama IS Big Brother . Obama is NO Romney.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:35pm13th: Agree with you. That is why I think all of these bozos MUST be Trolls. Surely, no intelligent American conservative would allow comrade Obama to have a second term .
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:47pmI think the fix has been in for well over a year now. The current face man, Cousin Barry Obama, will continue occupying the White House for ____ more years.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:04pmRISE: sounds like you are running an Alinsky: make them feel like there is no hope and they will give in ! Heard Obama just debuted at his first “ official ” campaign rally at a half empty auditorium ! Like he hasn’t been campaigning, rather than governing for the past 3 1/2 years ! Maybe Comrade Obama will not be as successful this go around. Now that people realize that the “change” is into an ” anti-capitalist“ society like his ”shared frustration ” Occupiers are exposing . The mask is off. Americans are now “ hoping ” that he and his brand of Democrats will ( “change ”) relocate…maybe all go to Venezuela…think there might be a governing opening there for a fellow Marxist ! Chavez does have cancer AND he is being treated in Communist Cuba where the medical facilities are what one would expect under a Communist government . Am sure he will be needing a replacement sooner than had he come here to old capitalist America !
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:19pm@barber
“Oh, they’ll probably just keep saying that preposterous bit about Obama and Romney being the same !”
Ok, smart guy tell me who is closer in policy.
Spending? Neither Obama or Romney cut one cent of spending off current spending levels. Ron Paul cuts 1 trillion first year.
Looks like they are same on that one.
Wars? Romney wants to continue the wars the Bush and Obama have started and continued. With the both of them with talks about expansion into Syria and Iran its seems both of them are on the same page. Ron Paul voted against the Iraq war, against Libya, and with no point left in us staying in Afghanistan wants us out of their now, not in 2015 or whatever year Obama said.
Seems Obama and Romney are the same.
Freedoms? Well Obama was against Patriot Act yet is now for it. He was against the NDAA and signed it. Romney is for the Patriot Act and supports the NDAA. Ron Paul is against both, and any other bill that will take away freedoms for a false sense of security.
You guessed it, Romney and Obama are the same on that one.
The FED? Well both of them are bankrolled by big banks. This isnt up for debate, its a fact. Neither of them will touch the FED. Ron Paul I dont know if you have heard is pretty much against the FED.
Looks like Romney and Obama are again the same on this issue.
Bailouts? Same
Gun restrictions? Same
Abortion? Same
The list could go on and on.
WAKE UP!!!
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:59pm@Barber….naa… No Alinsky here. I’m honest…sometimes it gets me in trouble. Wouldn’t that be something…Obama getting a new job in Venezuela. The way things have been changing in the world…you never know. I hope you’re right, and enough people want him gone to send him packing.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:29pm3rd Party means a 2nd term for the current White House occupants.
>Gary, isn’t there a mountain you need to climb?
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on May 6, 2012 at 1:52amRomney means government-run healthcare though…..
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