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Gay Club’s Condom-Decorated ‘Christmas’ Tree Causes Outrage at Penn. College

Students at Washington & Jefferson College in Washington, Pennsylvania, are reportedly coming together to protest against a Christmas tree on campus that has been adorned with condoms. The tree, which was put up by the college’s Gay Straight Alliance, was assembled to raise awareness about HIV-AIDS.

Students at Washington & Jefferson College Angry Over Condom Christmas Tree

According to Joshua Habursky, a 20-year-old and a junior at the college, the tree first appeared on December 1 in conjunction with AIDS Awareness Day. Habursky, who is the president of the college’s Young Republicans Club, has approached the club as well as campus leadership to voice his concern about the odd holiday commemoration.

The “decorated” Christmas tree is located in “the Hub,” another name for the college’s student center. Rather than colorful ornaments, condoms are hung on its branches. And instead of a beautiful angel, star or Christ at its top, an open condom is placed over the tree’s higher point. Next to it, a sign reads, “AIDS Awareness! Free condoms! Take one!” Students can apparently nab them right off of the tree.

“I submitted to [the club's leaders] that I understand the tree was for thr AIDS Awareness Day…but why is it continuing to stay up into the Christmas season?,” Habursky told the Blaze in an exclusive interview.

But despite his questioning, then Gay Straight Alliance is reportedly not budging.

Students at Washington & Jefferson College Angry Over Condom Christmas Tree

“They’re keeping the tree. They stand by the free speech of the club. I certainly understand the free speech component,” he explained. “But I think it’s a direct attack on Christianity and borderline obscene.”

“I pleaded to the college president to take it down,” he explained. “I met with the dean of student life who said that he approved the tree and that he would approve the tree again.”

Habursky says that a counter-movement, though in its infancy, is beginning. The school’s Christian Student Association and Newman Club (Catholic campus group) are coming together with the campus chaplain and priest to put up a rival nativity scene. He says the Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh will also be supporting the initiative.

Students at Washington & Jefferson College Angry Over Condom Christmas Tree

But rather than showcasing only the nativity, Habursky and company plan to also place an AIDS awareness sign on campus — in a separate location. “The two will be in separate locations and they each will support their own independent message,” he explained.

This, Habursky says, shows that while the students care about AIDS awareness, they do not see the Gay Straight alliance tree as the proper way to address the issue.

In addition to finding the tree offensive, Habursky also voiced concern over elementary school children who he says come to the campus and may actually walk through the area where the tree is located. “We are trying to have the tours rerouted,” he explained. “I don’t know what they were thinking about this,” he continued.

The Blaze reached out to numerous individuals at Washington & Jefferson College. While we received a call from the school’s communications director saying that we would likely receive comments on the tree, we have not yet received any calls or e-mails in that vein.

The school could, as Habursky has claimed it argued, say that it must afford rights to student groups, regardless of how offensive a club’s actions may be. Do you think the school should demand the tree be taken down? Take our poll, below:


(H/T: Young America’s Foundation)

Editor’s note: an earlier version of this article referred to the college as William & Jefferson. It is Washington & Jefferson.

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  • toomuchgovt
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:01pm

    The open condemn is offensive, however this is not hate speech. Put a real christmas tree, a nativity scene and sing christmas carols in “the hub”. The only way I’ve found to win these battles is by using their own devices. Freedom of Religion is also in our Constitution.

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    • Freedom from liberals
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 5:31pm

      Where’s PETA when you need them. I saw a couple of gerbils hanging in that tree. They can get aids too!

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:21pm

      I thought it was a “winter holiday tree”.

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    • TheCoffinMaker
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:19pm

      …I‘m surprised they didn’t hang a healthy brown turd on one of the branches!

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    • Prowd2beblack
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:48pm

      Clearly the coal miner thing was sarcasm…even DAN knows that

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:53pm

      Now the far right Christians are trying to force their beliefs of what constitutes correct Christmas tree decorations and what does not on others. These far right Christians, armed with the belief that they and they only understand the word of God and what God himself does and does not approve of as acceptable Christmas tree decoration, have chosen to impose their self-righteous beliefs on others.

      Sorry this University is privately owned. I’d suggest you let it go. You decorate your tree the way you want, with candy Cains if you want to associate processed sugar with Christ, and give others the same privilege.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 10:26am

      Look, if you’re queer the only thing on your mind is putting something up your back side and making sure every one with in shouting distance knows its your right to do so.

      Being LGBT isn‘t about having the ’right’ to do that. Its about destroying a part of American culture. Period.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 10:54am

      If you are gay, thats fine. But why do they have to be so obnoxious? When does ones sexual life become private again. I don’t want to know about anyone else. And, JZS, why bash Christians when its the gays that have no dignity. Is this tree really necessary. What if the gays had a parade and the Christians joined the parade carrying large crosses and shouting repent? Would you, JZS, be standing up for the free speech rights of Christians then? Common decency and sense is needed. When did free speech become a right to be obscene?

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:03am

      JZS – Try putting condoms all over a Koran and see what happens. Do you think the muslims would be ok with that?

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    • zxcier
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:49pm

      If you are Christian, that’s fine. But why do they have to be so obnoxious? When does ones religious life become private again? I don’t want to know about anyone else. And, NHWINTER, why bash gays when it’s the Christians that have no dignity? Is this nativity scene really necessary?

      What if the gays had a parade and the Christians joined the parade carrying large crosses and shouting repent? (they do) Would you, JZS, be standing up for the free speech rights of Christians then? (I’d guess he does)

      Common decency and sense is needed. When did free speech become trumped by your right not to be offended?

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    • taskmaster78
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:58pm

      Can anyone understand the only stand the “gay rights” advocates stand for is for sex, thus the condoms and gay pride parades have a sexual theme to them. It‘s not driven by relationship it’s driven by sexual preferences.

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    • Pigpen
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 4:15pm

      How’s that DIVERSITY working out for ya?

      If you are a Christian that actually believes in a real and living GOD who sent his Beloved Son Jesus Christ, then you MUST believe in the Bible, RIGHT? So, my fellow Christians, are you at last now at a point where enough is enough? You have been BETRAYED by those whom you have embraced as friends, fellows, and even counselors! (Read “Culture of Critique” by Kevin MacDonald PhD) These “friends” have convinced you, SWINDLED you into believing that TOLERANCE is a VIRTUE! NO, WRONG! Now you “open-minded” suckers have a CONDOM TREE in the town square where a NATIVITY once stood !!! How much until you say enough? You have endured the “Piss Christ” photograph as a piece of art! You have allowed adult bookstores next to churches and elementary schools in the name of FREE SPEECH! And you have even scratched your head and pondered the perverted PEDOPHILE as an abused member of a “sexual proletariat” at the advice of Allen Ginsberg and a “Law & Order” episode! HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH? Wake up!

      The United States of America has been set aside by GOD for the WHITE Christians of this world who wish to be FREE to OBEY God’s LAWS! Do you think that he is going to let you put a CONDOM TREE in your town square with impunity? Shouldn’t you KNOW BETTER by now? Shouldn’t you be able sto see the TRUTH with YOUR own EYES by now? WAKE UP!

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    • getalong
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:26pm

      I am not a homophobic, but what I don’t understand is this tree for example. Why does everything have to be about their gayness and sex? I don’t like this kind of “in your face” information about the fact they have sex with the same sex. I get it so move on. What happens between you and your sex partner is not something I care to know. It would be like a heterosexual walking around with a t-shirt on that says I have sex with the opposite sex.

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    • MetalPatriot
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:52am

      To: JZS (Jesus?, really?)

      Maybe a few whackos claim to be the only ones in the know about God’s word, but how about this…

      How would you like it if I hung a huge ***** where you daughter could see it at school? It’s inappropriate to the environment. This isn’t about religion, it’s about people literally shoving it (their organ or sexual preferences) in your face while hiding behind “symbolic” speech that’s been ruled protected (like flag burning). Neither belong on school campuses.

      Let’s see, the open condom was hung on the top point of the tree…I wonder what that could represent? It’s not about bringing attention or awareness to aids, it’s about promoting sex…just use a condom. Nothing to do with aids or else they could be trying to raise money for research or to help somebody financially that has aids.

      I can tell you as somebody that’s had 2 family members die from HIV & AIDS, these people aren’t out to solve anything except promoting promiscuity.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:37am

      To JZS:
      If you persist … I will begin to think you ARE stupid. I really do not want to go that route.
      The tree is a mockery and pathetic, I WILL NOT USE MY FREEDOM THIS WAY. That is not what freedom is about… sad that so many have lost sight of that.
      Concerning the bible… anybody can “understand” what it means.. all it takes is reading and studying and guidence from the Holy Spirit….
      It’s not what you “associate to ” Christ, it’s do you associate WITH Christ… if you hangin with Him then you get to know Him… NOTHING SELF RIGHTEOUS ABOUT IT >>> DUDE

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    • lezziefemme
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:41pm

      The “condom tree” should NOT be taken down. Obviously this young Republican overreacted and dragged religious-based moral beliefs into this whole situation. This is a privately-owned university, and this tree is displayed in a student center where essentially, everyone who lives there is 17-18 or older.
      The tree was NOT labeled as promoting sex in any way, but rather promoting HIV/AIDS awareness- in essence, SAFE sex. I definitely have not seen christians promoting students’ best interests in that way, because christians have a notorious habit of promoting abstinence and if a man has pre-marital sex, it’s shrugged off- but if a woman has pre-marital sex, she’s considered a shameful woman.

      Your beliefs are not shared by anyone. The tree was totally harmless and in an appropriate environment (they did not put it in a church, town square, or anywhere public- just on school grounds)-
      In fact, it was the young Republicans club that made a bigger deal of it– so a tree is up during the holiday season? What’s it to you? Is the month of December supposed to be solely dedicated to Judeo-Christian holidays? Shame on you.
      I totally support this tree and it’s attempt to, in a playful manner, encourage SAFE sex among their peers. And if you choose abstinence? They’re not shaming you.
      The condoms aren’t used, everything is hygenic. Et cetera.
      I am a very proud 16 year old lesbian, I want you to come try to tell me what they’re doing here is wrong. Just try. http://ohgee

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  • copatriots
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:00pm

    First of all, I don‘t see a decorated tree as a genuine expression of Christ’s birth anymore than Santa does…..even though our society pairs them together. Certainly, the nudging of the progressives was and is intended as well as is yet another attempt to flagrantly insult Christians through the example in this article.

    Let it remain. It is a perfect icon for the perversity of the left. One is either disgusted by it, in it’s hellish origins, and motivated to action or……one finds it perfectly acceptable. God will not be mocked forever.

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    • Kaoscontrol
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:12pm

      Amen. Like the Pagan Cannanite (probably phallic shaped) “Asherah Poles” in the Old Testement. As you say, the Christmas tree has it’s roots in druid pagan culture more than the Christian symbolism now associated with it.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:13pm

      Good to see they abide by certain “Safe-Tree” practices… NOT!

      I love how tolerance is only “allowed” in one direction. I am sure they would slap a lawsuit had I preached the word of Jesus Christ if I were there. Seems like you are free to express if you [only] believe what the looney left believes.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:23pm

      @Cessna

      “I love how tolerance is only “allowed” in one direction. I am sure they would slap a lawsuit had I preached the word of Jesus Christ if I were there. Seems like you are free to express if you [only] believe what the looney left believes.”

      You’ll have a chance to see, as the article mentions a countergroup is working with local churches to set up a Nativity display on campus.

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    • AMERICA4EVER
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:29pm

      Anyone with half a brain knows it is in bad taste. That said, they got what they wanted, attention.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:30pm

      The sign says “aids awareness”? Really? So give out condoms that are 2 mils thick then say “have at it”? That’s like holding a “drunk driving awareness class” then serving 1% alcohol instead of 3% as you wave goodbye….”boy oh boy, I’ve done a good thing here” you say to yourself.

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    • BonnieBlueFlag
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:44pm

      I want to see a large cardboard cut-out of Mohammed with a condom turbin during Ramadan. I’ll wait.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:58pm

      @BONNIEBLUEFLAG Is that you Ann Barnhardt ? lol
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZUfzFxT54I

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    • Anti_Spock
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:13pm

      Pinecones practicing safe sex? Must be an epidemic of dutch elm disease going around the woods.

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:32pm

      It‘s a LIBERAL treehugger’s dream come true http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm8sQ6bWzjI

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    • coindexter
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 4:05pm

      what’s wrong with a christmas tree decorated with used condoms? just make sure you scrub up real well after handling the ornaments.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 4:10pm

      Come on …seriously….homosexuals have no respect for Christian religious holidays nor do they have the same decorum that normal people have. Just observe any “gay pride” parade and see the proliferation of S&M attired men and women, scantily clad, overt sexual gestures….ad nauseum. I live in Los Angeles and on any afternoon driving on Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood you will see male go-go dancers at clothes stores clad only in underwear dancing in store windows. Overt sexuality and undisciplined promiscuity is rife among male homosexuals. Homosexuals as a group simply dont’ have the same sense of decorum and propriety that normal people do at least within their enclaves. So putting condoms on a christmas tree (and yes..I know the tree itself is not founded in older Christian celebrations but rather from later Western European ones..nonetheless, it’s part of the Christmas aesthetic today making it Christian in complexion) doesn’t surpise me in the least. In fact it’s probably a milder expression of homosexual abnormalcy. I‘m glad they’re looking at condoms though…because over 55% of HIV infections in this country are from male homosexuals who comprise less than 2% of the population. Clearly..their sex habits are unnatural to the point of perpetuating a life threatening disease. An inconvenient truth..no?

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    • dogdr
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 5:23pm

      avnegerk–you say that “over 55% of HIV infections in this country are from male homosexuals who comprise less than 2% of the population. Clearly..their sex habits are unnatural to the point of perpetuating a life threatening disease.” I agree completely, although we need to look at few other things first. Did you know that 95% of people with “black lung disease are coal miners, and yet coal miners make up less than 1%of the population. Clearly, their work habits are unnatural to the point of perpetuating a life threatening disease. Coal mining is a choice, you are not born a coal miner, you choose to live that unhealthy lifestyle and if you do, that is your penalty. We need to quit promoting coal mining and other hazardous work situations to children. If it causes so much disease and heartbreak it surely can’t ben natural and we need to stop promoting this to children. A lot of coal miner’s kids grow up to be coal miners- we CAN NOT let those children in harms way. Stop coal miners from having kids or adopting and maybe we can stop this spread of a horrifying unnatural disease that comes from an abnormal lifestyle.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:23pm

      Please DOGDR….don’t insult my intelligence. Risky jobs are in no way an acceptable comparison with lifelong behavioural compulsions and characteristics that are clearly and without doubt a detriment to the human species. Clearly..the human anus is not designed for prolonged and frequent sexual use by the male penis yet male homosexuals cannot copulate without anal penetration…an entirely unnnatural state of mind and practice for human beings yet a complusion male homosexuals cannot control. You equate this with an individual choosing a risky job? Seriously? This is why HIV continues to be so disproportionately high for homosexual men. Compound this with the high promiscuity levels of male homosexuals and this is why over 55% of HIV infections in this country are from less than 2% of the population- that’s an over representation of 2,750%. Please…coal mining and homosexuality? Grow up you idiot.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:54pm

      DOGDR – coal miners provide energy that people need while homosexuals don’t provide us with anything we need.

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    • PKama
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:58pm

      @BONNIEBLUEFLAG

      Very very good idea. I am waiting to see it too. LMAO.

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:48am

      Who are these human habitrails, Gaytheists ? Just another attempt by the queers to try to mock anything that is normal or decent, their time is running short, so keep the faith folks

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    • hadenoughinpa
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:54pm

      The tree originated from a pagan custom so why the whiney crap geeezzz could have re elect the bamster buttons on it too just sayin TEA

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  • neillwd
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:59pm

    Not a free speech issue. They have had their say. It most likely was not a permanent installation. W&J is a private liberal arts college. It is up to the college and clearly there administration has an agenda. I wonder if they would be okay with leaving the Nativity scene in place all year.

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:38pm

      Byron P. McCrae, Ph.D.
      Vice President and Dean of Student Life
      Rossin Campus Center, Upper Level
      724-223-1360 fax: 724-229-5143
      E-mail: bmccrae@washjeff.edu

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  • BoomSlander
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:59pm

    LMAO…this is too perfect following the Nativity article yesterday. These people need to walk by and not get offened, right?

    It‘s okay to put religious decorations on Government property but it’s abusing freedom of speech to hang latex on a tree.

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  • USAMEDIC3008
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:57pm

    Tasty treats for the Elfs.

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  • Kaoscontrol
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:56pm

    “Mommy! These candy canes taste like rubber!”

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  • UnrepetantCurmudgeon
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:54pm

    And of course it stays. The message here is not “safe sex” but “sex”.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:14pm

      Your right….. if there is any one subject most associated with College it’s SEX

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    • copatriots
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:21pm

      And sadly, “free” sex (even though the consequences are anything but freeing) combined with drugs and alcohol.

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    • KAdams
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:10pm

      Not just sex… but gay sex. The Gay Straight Alliance sponsored it.

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    • dubjay
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:38pm

      Prove to me that this promotes exclusively gay sex.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:51pm

    Put a tree up with ALL Christian religious symbols like Angels and Baby Jesus and CROSSES then see if they take it down.

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    • Ridiculousness
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:12pm

      Hence the nativity scene that was put up, and stayed. That embodies everything that is Christian about Christmas. It was allowed to stay up, as well as this tree. So I‘m not really sure what you’re talking about.

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  • snowmonk
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:50pm

    The case of Aids that one of these condoms might stop might be the one that one of mine or your children might get.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:55pm

      So you and your children pick HIV positive partners to sleep with? That’s all sorts of creepy.

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    • smackdown33
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:58pm

      Yawn, yawn, yawn. That reasoning is getting old.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:04pm

      How about raising your children with morals and values such that your children select better partner?

      Also, don’t ya think American society has done enough to make your children aware of the consequences? Do you really think a ridiculous, insulting tree is going to make a difference? If they haven’t figured it out by their freshman year of college…….perhaps the parents or lack of parenting IS the problem. If they are wise enough and can afford going to college, I would suggest they should be very familiar with aids, their sexual preference and certainly the need for a condom.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:48pm

    The open condom on the top is OVER the top!! If not who dictates what an ornament is? I chose ‘in the middle“ because I hate when groups hide behind the ”1st Amendment of Free Speech” thats how we end up with the radicals at military funerals (Thanks Supreme Court)! The counter protests are a great idea and rally no one would know about this tree if it weren’t reported…small local stuff like this should remain insignificant to the rest of the country! More media means more “perceived” power!

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  • no_more_harkin
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:47pm

    I wonder if the Gay club would mind a scene depicting gays along side beastiality, pedophilia, necrophilia, et. al.
    Sense they don’t mind the obvious insult to Christians, I assume they wouldn’t mind desecrating what they hold dear.

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    • Kaoscontrol
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:00pm

      “gays along side beastiality, pedophilia, necrophilia?” is there any difference?

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    • Give Me Newt Or Give Me Death
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:54pm

      as the other guy said, what’s the difference? maybe just a little more post-coital cuddling, i guess…

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  • Locked
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:47pm

    “But rather than showcasing only the nativity, Habursky and company plan to also place an AIDS awareness sign on campus — in a separate location. “The two will be in separate locations and they each will support their own independent message,” he explained.”

    This is a good response. Demanding a Christmas tree be taken down because you don’t agree with the message (any message?) associated with it? Bad response. If other groups are able to put up displays as well, the tree should remain.

    I hope their Nativity scene comes out well.

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  • RAMJR
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:40pm

    In my opinion, this should not be taken down. The reason? This is what has been here a long time, yet hidden. Now, in this administration, immorality is rewarded. Freedom of speech exposes agendas and truth, both sides. Is it sick? Yes. Is homosexuality immoral? Yes. Is it a direct slap in the face to Christianity? Yes…and it will get much worse. To be honest, we dropped the ball. By staying silent we have taught generations that many immoralities are okay. Even many ‘churches’ have fallen to immoralities and the ‘wolves in sheeps clothing’ should be exposed. I believe this is why we have seen so many corruptions, sins against God and specifically this administration standing for it. Let this be a warning, don’t hide these from your kids, point it out. Point out the sickness. Point out the immorality and point out the evil. With the educational system we have, give your children a fighting chance. Truth is never easy and clean. It can hurt feelings, but it also help you surround yourself with those of moral value…or immoral. Agree or disagree, freedom of speech goes both ways, even though it really doesn’t these days.

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    • smackdown33
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:56pm

      You tell us not to take action, removing the tree, then give us the reasons why we should take action and not sit back?

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  • dirtydog1776
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:39pm

    Good chance that taxpayer money paid for these condoms. Where are the dental dams and tubes of KY jelly to brighten the mood even more?

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  • jdog777
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:38pm

    The only reason why I would not support tearing this tree down…. is because I don’t support others tearing down Christmas trees for the sake of political correctness anywhere. Defaming a Christmas tradition is a first amendment right…. and so is celebrating Christmas. I just read today that Atheists were successful in removing a Nativity scene in California. Everyone can see the hypocrisy of the Progressive…. we need to be consistent on what the First Amendment is and means… even defending offensive speech as well. At the end of the day… the good and moral message will prevail.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:40pm

      And they wonder why people consider gays to be perverted.

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    • smackdown33
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:44pm

      It’s call standards. Animals have no standards. Standards are what separate us from the apes.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:53pm

      “I just read today that Atheists were successful in removing a Nativity scene in California”

      You read incorrectly. The Nativity scene remains; but now there are several designated spots that people can apply to set up different scenes. Some Christian groups got permits; some non-Christian groups did as well. But there will still be some Nativity scenes there.

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:57pm

      @smackdown

      Kind of makes you wonder why the liberals will now allow bestiality in the military. If they believe we’re all monkeys, then what’s the difference.

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    • loveliberty83
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:07pm

      I sick & tired of people hiding the constitution & claiming their rights -BS some things are offensive & immoral- it is called respect & who did that to the tree is a jerk. Guess what we will be having Aides in animals because of the new law, sex should be privete & what you do in your bedroom should stay there

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:19pm

      @Loveliberty

      Pardon me for mocking you, but it’s just too easy.
      “I sick & tired of people hiding the constitution & claiming their rights”
      -I’m assuming you mean “behind the constitution.” Yes, God forbid that people seek to keep to the laws of the land or claim human rights.

      “BS some things are offensive & immoral”
      -Condoms aren’t one of them, I would say. Freedom of speech makes it a moot point anyway.

      “it is called respect & who did that to the tree is a jerk.”
      -Pretty sure the tree doesn’t mind. Actually, I bet the tree, if it had feelings, would be more upset by the person who cut it down than the one who decorated it.

      “Guess what we will be having Aides in animals because of the new law”
      -That’s odd, why would an animal need an aide? Unless you’re calling politicians animals. I could agree to that. The “new law” part seems odd though… perhaps you’re referring to the NDAA? That only applies to the military, and the bestiality section is already covered in other parts. It’s fun getting offended about things, but it helps to know about what you’re getting offended.

      “sex should be privete & what you do in your bedroom should stay there”
      I’d argue it should be private, actually. And if you’re only having sex in the bedroom, you’re probably not much fun. But safe sex is just education: life doesn’t come with a guidebook, after all.

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    • Ms. Jones
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:29pm

      Hmm . . . maybe if the Magi were holding hands, or the shepherds were posed just so with their sheep, Nativity scenes would not be so offensive to liberals?

      (heavy sarcasm–don’t accuse me of blasphemy)

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    • Cay1962
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 3:40pm

      @SMACKDOWN
      What separates us from the apes is evolution.

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    • Give Me Newt Or Give Me Death
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:55pm

      I have the first amendment right to point at you and laugh…which i’m doing right now.

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  • Owt_Raged
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:37pm

    They could have at least used condoms with different colored packages. The tree looks really lame!

    Who is complaining? The same people who keep telling our kids that sex is okay and they don’t have to discuss it with their parents? The people who tell our kids, go get an abortion on the taxpayers dime, don’t tell your parents. The same people who tell my kid that she is no better than any other person and strip her of her self worth and individuality? Is that the people who are complaining?

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:56pm

      “The people who tell our kids, go get an abortion on the taxpayers dime”

      Taxpayer money cannot be used for abortions.

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    • rush_is_right
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:54pm

      “Taxpayer money cannot be used for abortions.”

      BS. giving money to an organization that provides abortions whether they use it directly for abortions or not, is giving money for abortions.

      its like giving me money for food…then I just have more money to spend on whatever else I want.

      its a fiction.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:07pm

      “BS. giving money to an organization that provides abortions whether they use it directly for abortions or not, is giving money for abortions.”

      That makes almost as much sense as saying “Giving money to a Catholic church is giving money for pedophilia.” A billion people in the world would probably call you a moron. I suggest you take some lessons in fund management and accounting and then come back to this discussion.

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    • KAdams
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:20pm

      @Locked:

      Do you disagree that Planned Parenthood performs abortions?
      Do you disagree that a third of funding for PP comes from government grants?
      I know wiki’s not the most reliable, but:
      Planned Parenthood receives about a third of its money in government grants and contracts (about $360 million in 2009). By law, federal funding cannot be allocated for abortions, but some opponents of abortion have argued that allocating money to Planned Parenthood for the provision of other medical services “frees up” funds to be re-allocated for abortion.

      Planned Parenthood is also funded by private donors, with a membership base of over 700,000 active donors whose contributions account for approximately one quarter of the organization’s revenue. Large donors also contribute a substantial portion of the organization’s budget; past donors have included the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Buffett Foundation, Ford Foundation, Turner Foundation, the Cullmans and others. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s contributions to the organization have been specifically marked to avoid funding abortions. Some, such as the Buffett Foundation, have supported reproductive health that can include abortion services. Pro-life groups have advocated the boycott of donors to Planned Parenthood.

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    • KAdams
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:29pm

      Continued:

      In the 2007–08 Annual Report, clinic income totaled $374.7 million and miscellaneous operating revenues $68.9 million. Approximately two-thirds of the revenue is put towards the provision of health services, while non-medical services such as sex education and public policy work make up another 16%; management expenses, fundraising, and international family planning programs account for most of the rest.

      So they received $360million in grants in 2009, but their non-medical services only account for 16% of their total services… What do they do with the rest of the grant money? Hmmm? Help pay the doctors, if the payroll account is a bit short?

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:33pm

      @Kadams

      “By law, federal funding cannot be allocated for abortions, but some opponents of abortion have argued that allocating money to Planned Parenthood for the provision of other medical services “frees up” funds to be re-allocated for abortion.”

      And none of those funds can be used for the abortion process. Not for paying the doctors, nor the medical items, nor payment for services through insurance.

      This is why I told a previous poster to learn about funding and allocation. Take a University which receives tax-payer money. In most states, taxpayer money cannot be used to pay for food or beverages, especially not alcohol. But the schools also receive money from donors, tuition, fees, and auxiliaries. All these monies are allocated to different funds, and each fund is carefully tracked. So while state money can pay for overhead or utilities, it will never be spent on alcohol (say for wining and dining new faculty, or for use in experiments on drinking behavior). Would still say that the government uses its money to fund drinking?

      If you still do, then you don’t understand how funding or government regulation works. To be fair it is an entangled nightmare, but it is categorically wrong to say taxpayer money is used for abortion. It’s not.

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    • KAdams
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:39pm

      Yes, but Locked…. these are the same people in charge of Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae, TARP et. al. Sprinkled with a few Jon Corzines and Bernie Madoffs… do you REALLY think that there isn’t some fancy footwork going on somewhere, to somehow, magically make that money available to the ‘medical services division’ of PP?

      If the Senate can pass a bill that would give the government the ability to detain anyone indefinitely on a flimsy charge, without trial, who‘s to say this isn’t beyond them?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:40pm

      Locked

      & the other 6 billion would call you a moron!

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 4:15pm

      @Kadams

      “If the Senate can pass a bill that would give the government the ability to detain anyone indefinitely on a flimsy charge, without trial, who‘s to say this isn’t beyond them?”

      Not disagreeing with you there. But it’s a similar argument to saying “Well, there are laws against killing, but murders happen anyway.” Are the laws to blame? No; I just think there should be an audit. Realistically that’s all you can do without taking over private enterprise.

      Well that, or you can stop having the government fund outside programs overall. I like that solution, personally. But I’m not going to sit here and poo-poo Planned Parenthood without some good evidence; same as I won’t poo-poo faith-based charities even though they could be using the funding to promote their religion. Just because abuses -could- happen doesn’t mean they do; and it doesn’t take away the good that organizations do.

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  • smackdown33
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:37pm

    More proof that homosexuality really is a developmental aberration that should never have been removed from the DSM-III. The removal, back in the 70′s, was political, not medical.

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:36pm

    Hand them out for Ramadan, and see what happens.

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    • KAdams
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:33pm

      Wait, where’s the condom-draped menorah?

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:33pm

    They have the right to do what they want with their own Christmas tree. However, It’s disturbing that the LGBT community whines and cries for “civil rights” yet they have this in-your-face-attitude against those they wish to be equal with.

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    • BoomSlander
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:10pm

      “In your face” attitudes like holding up signs that say “**** go to hell” on school campuses?

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 4:30pm

      That would be “in your face attitudes” like yours boomer, who just make up garbage like your comment. It’s kind of hard to make a point without proof.

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    • Discord
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 7:12am

      Anyone who wants to change the way society feels about them must be loud and in your face. If we remain quiet, no one will notice and nothing will change.

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  • JLGunner
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:33pm

    It’s part of their agenda. What do you expect?

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  • 000degrees
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:32pm

    There is no respect afforded by these sick individuals so none should be given…..me thinks this tree should “disappear”…….

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  • pandora
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:30pm

    Once again the left will eat its own. As we saw with the OWS crowd shutting down a Law & Order filming, here we have a case of the academic left having protested for gay rights and now being offended by it? This totally explains the stupidity of the left. All of them are first level thinkers. They will act on anything without ever examining the consequences. These idiots have gotten the America they whined about. Congratulations!

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  • IfNotNowWhen
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:30pm

    Try mocking a Muslim symbol to this degree and see what happens. Once they kill you, the lefties will defend THEM saying you shouldn’t have insulted their religion.

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  • Free2speakRN
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:29pm

    This is what happens when you start with ‘Holiday Trees’.

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  • sWampy
    Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:28pm

    Aids could have been wiped out in the 70′s/80′s think of the millions and millions of people that have died or are doomed to live the rest of their lives spreading AIDS to others due to political correctness run amok.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:59pm

      I know. I remember reading that there were VERY few cases (all gay men) who came here from HAITI and were male prostitutes. They would NOT isolate them due to the PC of being opposed to gay lifestyle. They never thought it could spread to the entire population. It was thought to be a disease limited to GAYS. I read stories where men were told they had AIDS and they got angry and went out to give it to as many others as they could in retaliation for being contaminated.
      Do you remember hearing a few years later about the 19 yr old girl who was a virgin and got AIDS at her dentist’s office? (The BACKWASH from the suction tube) ewww poor thing. One other girl had too many drinks and was in love with this bartender at a bar she went to a lot. She ended up sleeping with him and got AIDS. She did some commercials to warn girls. You don’t hear much about AIDS anymore?

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 2:11pm

      Bold statement that IMO is totally wrong. The virus in this Country is passed from one person to another by certain BEHAVIOR committed by members of certain groups of people primarily Gay Men and HIV Drug Abusers sharing dirty needles. The myth that HIV was about to break out into the greater population was just that a myth. If there is a finger to be pointed it should directed at those who took the virus away from the Medical Profession and into a political football.

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