Politics

Gay Voters Angry at Democrats Could Sway Election

CHICAGO (AP) — Kate Coatar is seriously considering voting for Green Party candidates instead of Democrats, whom she normally supports. James Wyatt won’t cast a ballot at all because he no longer trusts anyone to fight for causes important to him.

If Democratic candidates are counting on long-standing support from gay voters to help stave off big losses on Nov. 2, they could be in for a surprise.

Across the country, activists say gay voters are angry — at the lack of progress on issues from eliminating employment discrimination to uncertainty over serving in the military to the economy — and some are choosing to sit out this election or look for other candidates.

President Barack Obama’s hometown of Chicago, with its large, politically and socially active gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community, offers a snapshot of what some are calling the “enthusiasm gap” between voters who came out strong for Obama and other Democrats in 2008 and re-energized Republican base voters, including tea party enthusiasts who say they are primed to storm the polls.

It didn‘t help that the controversy over the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy for gays erupted less than two weeks before the election, when a judge overturned it, then Obama‘s justice department decided to fight the judge’s decision. On Thursday, the Defense Department declared that “don’t ask, don’t tell” is official policy but set up a new system that could make it tougher to get thrown of the military for being openly gay.

“It‘s all talk and nothing’s happening, and I’m just over it,” said Coatar, 62, a church business manager who said she’s as concerned about health care and homelessness as about gay issues. “I don’t know who to vote for and the election is a week away.”

Wyatt, 35, a maintenance worker at the Center on Halsted, a community center serving Chicago’s GLBT community, said politicians only court gay voters at election time.

“Once they’re elected, they’re not fighting for things like civil unions or same-sex marriage or ending ‘don’t ask, don‘t tell’ because they’re hot-button issues,” said Wyatt, who usually supports Democrats. “We’re just used as a piggyback for them to get into office. It’s absurd.”

Whether or not that’s the case, Wyatt isn’t the only one who feels that way.

And in places like Cook County, Ill., where the gay population represents about 7 percent of voters, that could mean the difference between victory and defeat in some races, said Rick Garcia, director of public policy for Equality Illinois. One of those races is a much-watched and close battle for Obama’s old Senate seat between Democrat Alexi Giannoulias and Republican Mark Kirk.

“If (candidates) can mobilize the gay community and get them out to vote, it could make all the difference in the world in some of these key races,” said Garcia.

But volunteers who’ve been calling the 18,000 or so members of Equality Illinois to urge them to vote have been getting an earful. Many members say they won’t vote or will vote against incumbents, regardless of their party affiliation or stance on gay issues.

This year’s election is a stark contrast to 2008, when the gay community turned out in droves to elect Obama and help Democrats regain control of Congress.

“People were clamoring and very excited about the change that then-candidate Obama promised America,” Garcia said. “Now I see lethargy at best and disgust at worst.”

He said gains won under Obama, including in fighting housing discrimination, have not filtered out to many in the gay community because “the big issues have not appeared to change at all.”

“But change takes time; sometimes it takes a lot of time. A lot of folks just don’t understand that,” said Garcia. “I am older and more seasoned, but most people are very disturbed with the administration … and they’re the hard ones to get out to vote.

“The message is huge: Don’t take us for granted.”

Tracy Baim, publisher of Windy City Times, Chicago’s oldest and largest GLBT newspaper, and author of the new book “Obama and the Gays,” said disappointment is showing up in another way: Some are refusing to donate money to candidates until they see progress, although it’s difficult to gauge how much that has affected fundraising.

A message left Friday with the Democratic National Committee seeking comment was not immediately returned.

But many gay organizations are working hard to get voters to the polls, fearing they could face setbacks if Republicans retake control of Congress. Baim said Democrats and Obama still enjoy widespread support in some parts of the gay community, particularly among African-Americans and Latinos, and she believes the majority still will vote.

“People are disappointed but understand that this really is the best hope for significant change over the next several years,” she said. “But at the same time, the anger is very real.”

Robin McGehee, co-founder and director of the national gay-rights organization GetEQUAL calls the mood among gay voters a “disappointment canyon” but said they have no choice but to go to the polls.

She, however, is refusing to donate to or volunteer for any candidate this year. And members of her group are protesting wherever Obama appears on the campaign trail.

“We can’t not take advantage of the right to vote, but that doesn‘t mean we can’t vote smartly,” said McGehee, of Fresno, Calif. “If I was a leader in the Democratic Party, I would be worried.

“Either we‘re important enough to fight for our equality or we’re worth losing,” ”Right now we‘re being treated like we’re worth losing.”

Comments (233)

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  • HippoNips
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:55pm

    Don’t let anyone fool you. One-third of us at least, don’t care about gay marriage, serving “openly” or special rights of any kind based on our sexuality.
    This might be a shocker to many of you, but a good part of gay people are happy with just living their lives without teaching sexual education to your kids. or rampaging through the streets demanding odd special rights.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:07pm

      Sorry but you’re saqne post will fall on deaf ears at the blog. Just check around and see all the hate postings. I’m tempted to recruit some of these people to AlterNet.

       
    • SENIORCHIEF
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:12pm

      “O” worshiper – Wow, you are ignorant. “O” well, if what I have posted is hate, then just call me a hate monger.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:18pm

      Chief, thaqnks for being honest. I can respect an honest hater.

       
    • SENIORCHIEF
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:29pm

      “O” – Is “thaqnks” a part of the new Obama dictionary?

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:03pm

      You know, though, that the people that do all the screaming, are the ones everyone hears. If you are over the top womens lib or over the top christian or over the top gay or over the top whatever, every body gets judged by what you do because you are the one that gets the attention. I have known alot of gay people who didn’t throw thier sexual preference in my face nor did I throw my heterosexual preference in thiers. Got along just fine, thanks. When did one persons sex life become anyones business but thier own?

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:11pm

      Hey, we’re in control and will remain in control, given that it seems all here are all talk. Remember, I can change the dictionary spelling anytime I want.

      Wow, I’m really getting excited about Nov 2. Millions are being sent in to our candidates at the last minute. We have no worries because folks here on the BLAZE won’t donate. Thank you for being all talk.

       
    • supergreak
      Posted on October 26, 2010 at 10:50am

      *applauds*
      Give people freedom to live their lives. As long as they don’t infringe on MY rights, who gives a flying fruitcake what people do in the privacy of their homes?

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  • OBAMAWORSHIOER
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:54pm

    Yes the Green Party is great. makes the Tea Baggers look as stupid as they really are.

     
    • SENIORCHIEF
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:05pm

      That all you got, name calling?

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:12pm

      No, I pass on your bigotedr, stupid statements to many BLOGS. Helps show fense sitterrs what losers you are. Keep up the good work.

       
    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:18pm

      @SENIORCHIEF – Not at all! He has met every single member of the Tea Party AND everyone that posts on the Blaze and has made a thoughtful logical conclusion.

      This artical explains a lot:

      http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/they-hate-our-guts_511739.html

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    • SENIORCHIEF
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:18pm

      Cut and paste them and post them all over the net. Show everyone what kind of “racist, bigoted, homophobe” I am. As I said before, this all you got? Let us see if you can have a civil conversation without the ad hominem. Do you know the definition of that term? 10-1 odds you do not.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:38pm

      I think this OBAMAWORSHIOER is DANGLINBAGS from the way he spells. Don’t worry about him boys, if he knew how to read he would see that although most of us don‘t believe being gay is something to jump up and down about we really don’t care if anyone’s gay or not.

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    • Steve Smith
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:57pm

      I only see one “*********” here.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:16pm

      Senoir, I don’t care what yo say about me. I’m overjoyed tonight because a major worry of ours is over. We were afraid that people on the Blaze would actually give money. We were worried that the 500,000 people who showed up at Glenns the idiots rally would give a $100 each. But thank you, I’m no longer worried and will pass this on to our candidates across the USA. Joy and renewed enthusaism will reign this week. Thanks agin for being just talkers.

       
    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:19pm

      Untamable, thank you for saying not to worry about me and Barny Frank. You’ve help me to put the Tea Bagaers on snooze mode. It’s be a great day for Progressives.

       
  • khgron
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:47pm

    Has anyone read Romans Chapter One recently?

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    • tmarends
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 2:09pm

      Yep… The book of Romans is very eye-opening. This gay man fully supports what Paul says in it.

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  • TeaPartyPatriotJoey
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:39pm

    I went to a commitment wedding this summer with two bride’s to support my great childhood friend. At least one of them is voting Republican. Don’t put them all in the same box, they have many issues to vote for too.

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    • SENIORCHIEF
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:52pm

      No problem. I am trying not to, however, most of them want to label me a homophobe because I disagree with their lifestyle. It used to be I couldn’t have cared less about this issue until it was shoved down my throat by gay activists, calling me a homophobe hate monger because I did not support their cause. btw, I was not a supporter or an opponent of them. I just did not care until they made the choice for me.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:09pm

      Anyone who would invite a tea party person is insane and a sellout.

       
    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:10pm

      I think that is what you should have done for a friend. I am a huge believer in “Live and let live”; that however is a two way street. Yes I know not all gay folks are extreme – I get that. I happen to be straight but I do not wear my sexuality as some badge of honor. Nor do I lobby for special rights for straight, white/American Indian, 50 year old men. I am no more (or less) special than any other American. I do think that being an American is special.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:17pm

      Airborne, they have a reputation of going after every skirt even when married. Isn’t that true?

       
    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:33pm

      @OBAMAWORSHIOER – Do you ever have an original thought? Why does everyone of your posts contain at least one giant generalization? Call me names all you like. I’m grown and trust me I can take it. I know who and what I am. I am very comfrtable with that. You should be careful though – all that hate you have is going to eat you alive. You should be thankful for folks like SENIORCHIEF who protect you and your right to speak your mind.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:21pm

      So airborn, I was right. Wow what an admission. Thanks.

       
  • SENIORCHIEF
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:27pm

    I am a white, heterosexual, male who is angry at Obama. Why aren’t my frustrations with Obama being addressed? Ooops, I forgot, I am a racist homophobe. Belay my last.

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    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:55pm

      You left out the “Squid” thing!

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    • SENIORCHIEF
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:04pm

      True, but at least I am not in the Aint Ready for the Marines Yet (ARMY) :+)
      But, those squids do get pretty after 8 months on ship. Maybe I should change my stance on homosexuals.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:10pm

      Glad you admitted. Almost all here on the Blaze aren’t as open as you are. Than ks for your honesty.

       
    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:13pm

      LM(straight)AO!

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  • LadyIzShy
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:24pm

    honestly I do not see the gays staying away or not voting for the progressives.. this is to fake us out so we do not go vote..

    VOTE then DEMAND term limits

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:10pm

      This is one smart lady. The rest of you are hopeless nerds.

       
  • RichardPickering
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:12pm

    You know I have this feeling that in about 50 years Americans will look back at us and shake there heads. Wondering how we allowed 500+ men and women to hold our country hostage. Its pretty pathetic when you think about it. The people that our running this great country in to the ground could easily all fit in my back yard. And they really have us believing that its hopeless and that 300,000,000+ of us couldnt survive with out them. WOW embarrasing!

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:14pm

      Easy, You are all a bunch of talkers. Barny Frank doesn’t have to worry about losing his seat.

       
  • thepatriotdave
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:01pm

    Funny, I was talking about the Green Party earlier today on another thread.

    For those of you that don’t think a third party has a chance…. do a little research on the Green Party. If the GOP screws things up we had better have the Tea-Party fully funded and ready to go for 2012.

    PatriotShops.com

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    • crutcher1212
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:25pm

      I‘m hoping we won’t need a third party. If the republicans blow it, then they should be done. There is a reason the bull moose party is gone.

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    • opacid
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:40pm

      The Green Party is a nightmare, I’ve been watching them for a long time. They want to abolish private business and create complete welfare status for everyone. One of their members is Eric Boucher. He wrote an open letter to Obama right after he took office pushing immediate conversion to socialism. They are definately an enemy to individual liberty.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:16pm

      We Greeners don’t have to worry. We’ve watched this BLOG. You’ll all just big mouths who never walk the walk. It’s funy to see all the talk. Barny is with me now and we’re laughing at all the chest pounding.

       
  • NHABE64
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:59pm

    Shame on Barack Obama not taking care of yet another group he made promises to. Tsk! Tsk! There seems to be no end to broken promises from the cockroach. I bet Larry Sinclair is really pissed at Barry.

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  • paulrevere911
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:58pm

    Why have only 3 steel framed buildings ever collapsed due to fire in history happen on 9/11?
    (An office fire does NOT burn hot enough to melt steel, a building CANNOT collapse at free fall speed through the path of greatest resistance)
    Why did NORAD stand down for 2 hours? Could people in a cave get them to do this?
    (In fact NORAD was running a drill that very morning simulating planes crashing into buildings , and didn’t know if the FAA calls were real or exercise )
    Why has the FBI never released a video of the plane hitting the Pentagon?(the 1 video released shows no plane and the wrong time stamp)
    WHy did Dick Cheney on June 1,2001 order Donald Rumsfeld to give him full control of NORAD?
    (No, time in history had a President or Vice president been in control of NORAD)
    What caused Building seven to collapse symmetrically straight down in 7 seconds ? (the NIST report is laughable on this ,and they were forced to admit the building was in freefall)
    Why was molten steel running like lava under all 3 World Trade collapses up to weeks after ? (Thermite reaction evidence?)
    Why was nano-thermite found in 4 verified dust samples?
    Did the elevator renewal project in the towers for 9 months leading up to 9/11 allow access?
    Why did it take Bush 411 days to start the investigation?
    How could the BBC report that building 7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it did ?
    (Reporter Jane Standley reports of the collapse while the building is behind her intact)
    Please people do your own research.Your going to have to suspend your disbelief long enough to research the facts about this.I am posting this here to raise questions that the mainstream media will not do for us. Prove me wrong ,please try. God Bless.

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  • SENIORCHIEF
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:50pm

    Who cares? Why doesn’t the media focus on heterosexuals, the majority in this country, instead of focusing(once again) on the minority of people in the country?

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    • crutcher1212
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:22pm

      We don’t watch their shows. You’ve got to play to your audience. No one with common sense watches, so…

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  • Jackson
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:32pm

    Someone should direct all GLBT’s to a definition of “Libertarian” (social moderate, fiscal conservative). I’m straight and will seize the right to tell others how to live, right after I give them the right to tell me how to live (don’t hold your breath). I just want to be the master of my own destiny. Without government, church or special interest usurping my rights. I wish the same for all Americans. The government has no right to differentiate between people for any reason other than American citizenship.

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    • Danglinbags
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:48pm

      Yes, what he ^^^ said.

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    • crutcher1212
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:19pm

      A Big AMEN!

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    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:28pm

      JACKSON-JACKSON-JACKSON…… It’s clear that you are a racisist, Godless, homophobe who hates anyone who isn’t exactly like you. Oooooops, no that would be the Pres and the democratic leadership. Sorry!! I hate it when I make a mistake like that.

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    • spikebu
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:08pm

      Yup, government should stay out of private lives and spiritual matters. Why should the government have the right to substantiate a marriage and then issue a tax on them? Same with abortion…it is between God and the mother, not the governments business.
      People should be free to live as they wish and government/people should mind their own business.

      Liberty and freedom for all!

      I don’t endorse abortion or gay sex. Since I am not involved in either…I’m good. To each their own.

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    • Jackson
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:11pm

      LOL 82DAIRBORN! Thank God I read all the way to the bottom of your post! Was about to get upset.
      While I appreciate Danglin agreeing with me, I guess it left me a little rattled!
      p.s. Danglin, thanks. I guess we don’t disagree on everything!

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    • Blazergirl
      Posted on October 26, 2010 at 12:13am

      @Obama Jr.
      Hey you must be an Alvin Green fan. In case you don’t know who he is, Alvin Green is running against Jim Demint in South Carolina. On his last interview he kept saying over and over again that Demint was responsible for the recession. Can you spell/say DELUSIONAL? You should look him up. You remind me a lot of Alvin Green.
      You obviously enjoy being on this blog more than on the Huffington Post. We do bring a lot more to the table than they do. Thanks for showing us what the progressives are really all about. Yikes! Come on over to our side. We’ll take care of you and truly educate you.

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  • DMD
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:32pm

    I think this artical gives the gay community an inflated view of how much influence they realy have on an election. Black people could and did not elect Obama on their own. Even at +95% of blacks voting for Obozo. Gays can’t even get gay marrige voted in in fricken CA…

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    • SENIORCHIEF
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:53pm

      Nope they cannot so, for the second time, they must have a court overturn the will of the people of CA. Someone calling for the impeachment of the 9th circuit court of appeals? Oh yeah, nope.
      btw, when did minority rule take over majority rule?

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:06pm

      You fools rigged the CA elections. Why won’t you simply be honest. Bad question… that’s impossible here on the Blaze.

       
  • ARCHON
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:31pm

    STAY HOME & watch SPARTACUS!

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  • Steve Smith
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:30pm

    As if the Dems give a crap about them or their cause; the only thing they care about is their votes.

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:03pm

      Yep. Its the same with minorities and illegals. The Dems don’t give a rats behind about those groups either, they only want their vote.

      PatriotShops.com

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:51pm

      Unfortunately minorities and gays don’t seem to get that message. They think R=hate D= inclusion and tolerance. Until they realize it goes the other way they cannot be saved from themselves.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:04pm

      Glenn Beck and the tea party aren’t fooling gays. They KNOW that you’re a bunch of haters.

       
    • Steve Smith
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:56pm

      Learn to spell, then get back to us.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:24pm

      as I said before, we/re in control and can spell anyway we wish. In fact, we can even change the dictionary to read.. Patriot… people who are all just talk. No worry about them

       
  • We Are Not Alone
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:29pm

    Thought this was worth reading before you vote:
    From tammybruce.com
    As a gay woman who spent most of her adult life pushing the cart for liberal causes with liberal friends in a liberal city, I found that sexism, racism and homophobia are staples in the liberal world…
    As you might have gathered, I prefer the honest, decent and genuinely accepting friends and family I have in the conservative world. We don’t always agree on everything, but isn’t that the point? – being able to be yourself, make choices that best suit you, without fear of punishment or retribution. My friendships and relationships in the conservative world are not predicated on political correctness and enforced conformity of thought. They are based, instead, on mutual respect, honesty and understanding – concepts many modern liberals should consider revisiting.

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:07pm

      Bravo!

      PatriotShops.com

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:03pm

      She won’t find it here at the Blaze. All they do is call gays bad names under some synonyms. This people here are truly sick.

       
    • ILOVEJESUS
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 3:53am

      Absolutely!

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  • Zcat
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:26pm

    Glenn Becks new book is great! “When was the last time a poor person created jobs? He also talks about “Frugal: A four letter word” he is spot on as usual with what he says! Rome, Greece, and the 16th Spanish Imposition are models for whats going on in the USA today. We’ve been given the ability to see into the past…greatest gift! I still in the beginning gof the book but.
    “A society that seeks to equalize incentives for work doesn’t charish individualism” Glenn Becks book Broke!

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:01pm

      You guys can’t even count. Frugal is a six letter word DUMMY.

       
  • joseph Fawcett
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:08pm

    I hope the gays realize that their issues are not as important as having a country that is sound and safe. I don’t like the gay lifestyle and that is putting it mildly so I am bias. I don’t hate homosexuals I do not agree with their agenda and their lifestyle. However, I do believe that the goverment should stay out of thier lives and not make them law breakers either. They want the goverment to mandate approval of their lifestyles and agenda and force it upon all of us. The gays know that by laws forcing us to accept their agenda and lifestyle then they can say it is approved by God and is a God given right to be gay. Their god is the goverment, and I fear what will happen if they win. I for one will always disapprove of their lifestyle and if nescessary go to jail for saying so. I don’t care what they do in private and their communities, I don’t have to go there and live amoung them. I do care when they are trying to force their lifestyle upon the country, and make it hate speach if I stand up and say that I disapprove and will not take part in their wickeness.

    http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist

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    • thomas
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:39pm

      well said…thank you

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    • janddjohnson
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:44pm

      Agreed…

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:48pm

      As a christain chaplain I too tend to be biased in this argument, understand where I volunteer at we have several gay/bi- workers. We all have a simple agreement, they do not shove their views upon my area, and I stay clear of the topic with them. If they wish a discussion (no arguing) at a later time on the bible truths fine…each person is given the power of choice in this world, and will answer for each choice, good or bad, in the next.

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mix art)

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    • crutcher1212
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:15pm

      Christ said”Judge not, lest ye shall be judged” The Holy Gospel of Saint Matthew 7:1
      I try to live my life by these words. My life would never withstand being taken apart and judged piece by piece. I can only hope that, at the end, the good will out-weigh the bad.
      I can only assume others, including gays, are hoping the same. Christ has made them our brothers, They should be loved and welcomed.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:00pm

      How assinine can one be. It’s the right wing tea party types here that are calling for violence. Just poor losers all of you.

       
    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:13pm

      @OBAMAWORSHIOER

      Interesting statement since you just said that Mr Obama is going to do away with right wing facists like us. Seems pretty violent stuff you are supporting there, and so which statement is the truth? Do you support violence or do you support peace? You cannot have both, which is truth to you and which is the distortion of truth (lies)?

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mix art)

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:24pm

      Snow we don’t consider it violence when we take care of haters lik we see here. We love to see you neurtalized attacking us and spending hours an the this Blog, and especially when you don’t help our oppnents by giving money.

       
  • PeterThePainter
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:06pm

    The political machine will promise anything to be pushed forward. Take Rham Immanuel, the Jewish vote was obtained largely due to his involvement in 08, and if the unions think that the Administration is going to be there…they have their heads in the sand….so why not decieve the gays or any other sector of possible voters.

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  • MJ1025
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:04pm

    Everyone needs to wake up and realize that Obama is only supporting what helps his agenda. His agenda is to bring America to its knees as payback for what he thinks America has done to the world.
    He benefits if the Republicans win. After November, he can blame them for everything he did to this country so he can try to win in 2012. He could care less about any group of people.
    If you want your constitutional rights protected, you better vote Republican.

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    • Restored One
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:34pm

      MJ1025-
      Unfortunately, I think you are correct! It is sad, but true. Those of us who are true Patriots will hopefully continue to see Obama’s plan and stick this through 2012. It is going to take time & strength.

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:41pm

      In Nov3, we should be ready for a November suprise, Ms Pelosi and her progressive allies may try something to make a final destruction of this country absolute; a political coup or such would leave her in absolute power that she would never relinquish – we are two heartbeats away from the first dictatorship of America with Pelosi.

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (art)

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:59pm

      His agenda is to get rid of right wing fascists that dominate this Blog

       
    • untameable-kate
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:26pm

      No freedom of speach in your neck of the woods, huh?

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:29pm

      Hey we fully support peole to speak freely as long as all they do is talk. We start worrying ONLY when we see money flowing into our opponents camapign. I’m less worried after being here with you talkers.

       
    • chazman
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:48pm

      Hey OBAMAWORSHIOER. What is a OBAMAWORSHIOER? And you should read your posts before you post them. You are a terrible writer. Are you drunk? On drugs? Please pay attention to your detail so we can have a conversation. GET IT TOGETHER, MORON!

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:10pm

      @OBAMAWORSHIOER

      Right wing facists? Thank you for showing the true self of the Progressives – disagree with them and they will dispose of you. Should we then break out into song about Comrad Obama or just start to call him the Self Anointed One who Destroyed Everything?

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mix art)

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    • VegasGuy
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:11pm

      Uh, OBAMAWORSHIOER, you need to get up to speed. Fascism is just another form of socialism. Maybe you can have Barney Frank explain it to you over candlelight and a glass of White Zin.

      Also, I see a spell checker in your future. Either that, or don’t create a NYM while PUI (Posting Under the Influence).

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:16pm

      Chaz, I purposely mispelled my name so dummies like you would bite. Thank for falling into my teap. You will b e easy pickings when we take control

       
    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:25pm

      @Chaz

      Pay no mind to the one known as OBAMAWORSHIOER; his real ideals are displayed for all to see via his words.

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  • paulrevere911
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:04pm

    Why have only 3 steel framed buildings ever collapsed due to fire in history happen on 9/11?
    (An office fire does NOT burn hot enough to melt steel, a building CANNOT collapse at free
    fall speed through the path of greatest resistance)
    Why did NORAD stand down for 2 hours? Could people in a cave get them to do this?
    (In fact NORAD was running a drill that very morning simulating planes crashing into
    buildings , and didn’t know if the FAA calls were real or exercise )
    Why has the FBI never released a video of the plane hitting the Pentagon?(the 1 video
    released shows no plane and the wrong time stamp)
    WHy did Dick Cheney on June 1,2001 order Donald Rumsfeld to give him full control of NORAD?
    (No, time in history had a President or Vice president been in control of NORAD)
    What caused Building seven to collapse symmetrically straight down in 7 seconds ? (the NIST
    report is laughable on this ,and they were forced to admit the building was in freefall)
    Why was molten steel running like lava under all 3 World Trade collapses up to weeks after ?
    (Thermite reaction evidence?)
    Why was nano-thermite found in 4 verified dust samples?
    Did the elevator renewal project in the towers for 9 months leading up to 9/11 allow access?
    Why did it take Bush 411 days to start the investigation?
    How could the BBC report that building 7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it did ?
    (Reporter Jane Standley reports of the collapse while the building is behind her intact)
    Please people do your own research.Your going to have to suspend your disbelief long enough
    to research the facts about this.I am posting this here to raise questions that the
    mainstream media will not do for us. Prove me wrong ,please try. God Bless.

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  • 338lapua
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:02pm

    “If (candidates) can mobilize the gay community and get them out to vote, it could make all the difference in the world in some of these key races,” said Garcia.

    Or if people just realized their sexual behavior isn’t important to anyone but themselves, they may just vote for people who will give them liberty, small government, and less taxes. Anyone espousing those values will probably just leave everyones bedroom alone.

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    • joseph Fawcett
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:10pm

      Amen! Didn’t say it better myself.

      http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist

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    • crutcher1212
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:06pm

      Why aren’t gays Libertarian?
      We’ve got to get the word out to more people. Once they know what we’re about, the choice will be obvious.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:44pm

      338 you hit the nail on the head

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:58pm

      You tea bagging fools really think that homosexuals will vote Republican. You’re so gullible.

       
    • untameable-kate
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:24pm

      Oh good grief did you just call us teabaggers? Wow! I’m so upset! How will I ever be able to sleep at night? Stop name calling, we’ve heard it all before. Do you have anything new to bring to the table? No? Hmmmm….

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    • whitaker
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:55pm

      @OBAMAWORSHIOER
      There not going to be any republicans soon there all going to be constutionalist.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:00pm

      Kate, yes. I work for the Barny Frank campaign. We began to worry but no longer because you folks are all talk. I noticed on another thread that Contarian is leaving. Thank you because we were worried he would get you actually give our opponents campaign some money.

       
    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:27pm

      Your right. I need to add something of real value to the political debate. People on the Blaze are all talk. That means that Progressives will win because we give money for things we beleive in but the Blaze people won’t. How do you like that great post to the debate? It’s true as can be seen here on this thread and others.

       
    • ConservativeFeminist
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:47pm

      OBAMAWORSHIOER:

      Please go to:
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      http://www.gaypatriot.net

      “The internet home for the American gay conservative”
      ——————————————————————————-

      http://draftcain.org/default.aspx

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Fp9ccq7-g&feature=related

      “Herman Cain is everything Barack Obama is not – a seasoned man of faith and patriotic conviction, an experienced business executive, a natural communicator who doesn’t need a teleprompter, a guy who doesn’t have to hide what he truly believes about America, the Constitution, the rule of law and limited government. ”
      ——————————————————————————-

      By stating there are no Gay pro-Constitution Patriots or Blacks in the Tea Party movement, you are either poorly informed or purposely regurgiating false progressive propaganda.

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:06pm

      @OBAMAWORSHIOER

      Great post to the debate you say? Nope, nice to know that the Progressives still have nothing of value beyond the normal to add to their usual distortions of truth and reality. Also the Blaze posters are not just hot air, or such, we do indeed manage something special – WE CARE about OUR FUTURE and our CHILDRENS FUTURES!!!

      If you cannot deal with that simple fact then understand this – Progressives are losing, Get over it!!

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mix art)

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:19pm

      Snow keep thinking that as that is exactly what we want you to do. The only thing that would scare us is your walking the walk. We have milliikns coming in but we aren’t worried because most people here and everywhere elase I look in on are all talks, name calling and gripes.

       
    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:29pm

      In the case of OBAMAWORSHIOER I rest my case; enough said about a Progressive propagandist.

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 2:53am

      Snow dont feed the Trolls. lol, This one appears to be barney franks illiterate boyfriend. I crowd of one. he is only trying to cause distraction. Stay on topic and ignore the trolls.

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    • tmarends
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 1:44pm

      @OBAMAWORSHIOER

      I’m a gay man, I have never voted for a Democrat. I don’t always vote Republican, but I always vote conservative… Limited government and individual freedoms!

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  • cheezwizshabaz
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 6:58pm

    Seems like the progressives have been touched by the fickle finger of fate.

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    • JD Carp
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 8:57am

      Seems more like the Tea Party is the party of “the big tent” whereas the established GOP leadership still holds to a control factor that allows them right to our bedrooms. I see the Tea party becoming the dominant party of the Founders principles of freedom and self reliance, and the GOP becoming the third party. May I suggest the democrats change their name to the progressive party, the GOP change to the regressive party, and just leave the Tea party to put America back on the track of the Constitutional Republic as it was designed.

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    • IntheKnowOG
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 9:21am

      Gays should vote libertarian if they truly wanted equal treatment. My question is, they make up 1 percent of the population….how much of an influence do they really have? Let’s stop playing the PC game and deal with statistics. The gay vote as a whole is statistically inconsiquent. It plays a role in dead heat, maybe. They are already polled as potential voters. There is no discernable demographic that they are exclusive too. Polling them is simply polling an overlap in potential and or likely voters.

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  • Sunnyr
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 6:56pm

    Don’t feel bad, Gay Community, Obozo has LIED to everyone. The man was not qualified to be a LEADER of this great nation and I hope you will remember that in 2012. I will!

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:39pm

      Where by chance is the one politician who screamed Bush had betrayed our country and played up on our fears? Funny when Mr Obama does the same thing the paticular individual choses to remain utterly silent.

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (art)

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:41pm

      Snow, that is because if you look at unemployment numbers, which is a huge issue, Odipstick has nothing. Add all of his lies and failures to that what can anyone say? They are still not ready to cast him aside but they’re close.

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:56pm

      We won’t toss Obama aside. He is bisexual so half of us. It‘s just jealous that haven’t gotten any action with Obama.

       
    • ron the veteran
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 12:12am

      let rid our nation of him in 2011 make him show his birth certificate hes spent 2 milliom to keep hidden. and why does obamas granny say he was born in kenya? his daddy was never an american so obama is at best a duel citizen and that would make him ineligible to be prez. if we have congress we will have the power to make him produce his records and prove hes eligible i think hes going to jail for fraud and much much more. so is pelosi reid and schumer they are all ass deep in this.

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    • Marcobob69
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 8:04am

      I agree, SUNNYR! EVERYONE HAS been lied to in the pursuit of VOTES! Illegals, Gays Dems and even the progressives themselves have been lied to. But, in accordance with the Alinsky book of radicals, “by any means necessary” is their motto, no matter who is involved(except for George Soros, the money man!)!

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    • Blazergirl
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 11:32pm

      @Obama Jr.
      Is Obama bi-sexual and bi-racial? Do tell boyfriend. What else do you really think about our president? I’m sure it was just a typo. I think it was your subconscience having some serious fantasizing.”pick me, pick me Mr. President because I voted for you. I stook-up for you on The Blaze. It doesn‘t matter how many times you lie to us I’ll always love you because you are Obama.”
      Did I get it right Jr?

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  • TruthTalker
    Posted on October 24, 2010 at 6:50pm

    Hey, any way to beat the dems is a good way.

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    • Ga. Tea Party
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:30pm

      We will beat them without their help. They will never help anyone but themselves. God I love America.

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 7:37pm

      Mr Obama has broken more promises to his own party and the Progressives as well, so why should one more stab in the back by him and his administration cronies come as a suprise. Even as much as I do not care for the mans actions, if he kept his word in trying to do things I might have a bit of more respect for him, not now, for the man has shown by his deeds what his true darkness of heart he has….he wants to bring down america in flames at all costs.

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (art)

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 8:55pm

      No way, Yoy rea baggers are just losers hoping that there will be a big turnout of white racists.

       
    • ConservativeFeminist
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:54pm

      OBAMAWORSHIOER:

      Please go to:

      ——————————————————————————-

      http://www.gaypatriot.net

      “The internet home for the American gay conservative”
      ——————————————————————————-
      http://draftcain.org/default.aspx

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Fp9ccq7-g&feature=related

      “Herman Cain is everything Barack Obama is not – a seasoned man of faith and patriotic conviction, an experienced business executive, a natural communicator who doesn’t need a teleprompter, a guy who doesn’t have to hide what he truly believes about America, the Constitution, the rule of law and limited government. ”

      ——————————————————————————-

      By stating there are no Gay pro-Constitution Patriots or Blacks in the Tea Party movement, you are either poorly informed or purposely regurgiating false progressive propaganda.

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:16pm

      @OBAMAWORSHIOER

      So, since I am of mixed blood of an India mother, and an American father, I automatically belong to the white racists? I will have you to know that I despise racists in all areas and agendas, and have been attacked by the KKK and Neo Nazi dingbats in the defense of many people.

      You only expose your own racism and tunnel vision by the very words you spew.

      By the way are you being paid by Soros or SEIU to try and get people off this sight?

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mix art)

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    • cruisemates
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:18pm

      Honestly, as a fiscal conservative but a social Libertarian I would gladly help the gays get what they want as long as it doesn’t raise taxes. I don‘t believe the founding father’s meant to legislate what people do in the bedroom. I honestly wish the right would openly welcome gays and fight for their inalienable rights as American citzens to pursue happiness. If that was all it took to win elections I would gladly legalize gay marriage.

      Why object to them? Because of your religious beliefs. I thought we had a separation of church & state in this country.

      Think about it – it would make their relationships fiscally stronger and de-burden our courts and private health care administration (because they’d have the same rights as married people). I say bring the gays in and have them vote Republican. On average they are better off financially than the average demographic, they pay taxes and obey the laws – sounds good to me.

      As Glenn Beck said “what, do you really think we are going to pass laws against being gay? who are they hurting?”

      cruisemates  
    • 5
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:19pm

      “CLINTON PLAYS TO HALF-EMPTY HIGH SCHOOL GYM!”
      You won’t Hear this on the MSM. LOSER!

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:21pm

      few things, believe it or not under ucmj sex out of marriage is considered a crime.so any sexual behavior could cause for dismissal. gays in the military quite frankly would most likely not be attracted to front line jobs such as infantry.gays have served in all our services since their inception. It is not my place to judge them, if they get out of line the ucmj will judge them. not every homosexual is like richard simmons. If one wish to pick up a gun and go after the enemy then he is my brother.

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:30pm

      @ishka4me

      Did not know that about the military code of justice – thanks for the enlightenment. Appreciate it when something new is able to be learned.

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    • ron the veteran
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 12:03am

      wont they be bending over or leaning forward or what ever it is they are selling now. i got nothing agaist gays as long as they keep it to themselves. i dont want to know what they do nor do i care, but dont try teaching my kids its ok because its not in my book. you want to be gay be gay away from my kids. ill teach them whats right and what wrong not the schools. the schools are too busy teaching this trash to teach them the things they need to survive. its no wonder our kids are failing look at what being taught and what not. ill teach my kids if you see 3 gay penguins stomp them dead they wont survive anyway. stay out of our lives government! got it? your way out of your given powers and your about to be knocked back into line or into jail what ever fits your crimes. WE THE PEOPLE are done with your commie crap.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 12:27am

      Why does the GOP not welcome them into the tent and give up there war on liberty in the bedroom?

      Oh thats right. They only pay lip service to liberty when they aren’t in charge. Hope the new Christian right to take over is enlightened enough to believe in freedom for all and not just the life stiles they approve of.

      Anarcho Capitalist  
    • aeronut44
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 1:46am

      @ obamawoshioer….thanks for allowing me to add another moron to the list for calling the BLACK CONSERVATIVE TEA PARTY member a racist. If you wouldn’t mind calling me an uncle Tom as well. I am going for the weekly record.

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 2:41am

      The gays have America to lose as well as the rest of us. If they allow america to go to hell there will be no acceptance for them anywhere else in the world. The will lose the freedom to chose, or at least to live an openly gay lifestyle. There are very few places on this planet that will accommodate it, (Try living that way under sharia law and you would be beheaded as a defective human.)

      I’m not gay and personally I think it is a sin against nature and God. But, I am not them, they are not me and they have the “free will” to make decisions, they will answer to their creator, It is not my place to judge them or their lifestyle unless it interferes with my freedoms and lifestyle of choice. Live and let live. Do not judge me and will not judge you. We can be friends, but if you grab my @$$, you’re gonna get punched in the head.

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    • ILOVEJESUS
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 3:56am

      Gays may just be figuring out what many poor people (that also vote Dem in droves) have not. Democrats do not help anybody! Look at the cities, where the Dem vote comes from mainly. They are run by Dems and were, are and always will be poor under Dem rule. It just doesn’t work and Dems are keeping the poor under their thumbs. Republicans have done more to actaully help the poor (vs. talk about it, or run ineffective programs).

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    • EP46
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 6:19am

      First thing to remember…….the Left is using the Gays the same way they have used minority voters. They care nothing about “gay rights”. They support gays to get their votes, but all they are really interested in is supporting gay rights as a means of population control. Gays are being used to stop ‘humans from destroying the earth’.. Wake up people….do you think Cass Sunstein is interested in you or are you being used.

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    • FIRED UP FREE MAN !
      Posted on October 25, 2010 at 11:41am

      Today’s Daily Rant Brought to YOU by Fired Up Free Man !

      Revolution is in the air! People are tired of the sterile environment enforced upon them by THEIR government. We’re taxed the minute we wake up in the morning till we fall exhausted into our beds at night. There should be no bill passed that doesn’t have the extinction of at least five more laws. The trouble with the drug laws is that as soon as government is given a reason to interfere in privet lives they feel free to insinuate themselves into all aspects of our lives. We are either free or we are NOT. A man’s home used to be his castle instead our politicians have interfered with our CHILDREN, our HOMES, even our PERSONAL lives, it’s time to WAKE UP and fight back! It’s unfortunate that people use drugs, but still it’s none of the governments business. Are we free or are we not? Everybody must be responsible for their own actions. There will be winners and losers but at least this way there are some winners.

      Come and add to the daily rant of Fired Up Free Man’s Facebook page!

      http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fired-UP-Free-MAN/118250461570054?v=app_2373072738&ref=sgm

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