Gay Youth Commits Suicide One Month After Posting ‘It Gets Better’ Video
- Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:36pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Only one month after filming an “It Gets Better” video to help inspire young gays and lesbians, 19-year-old Eric James Borges tragically committed suicide. The circumstances surrounding the young filmmaker’s death have not been revealed, although his work showcases that his “coming out” in the last year was extremely difficult.
In his video, Borges discussed intimate details about his life, including an exorcism his mother apparently performed to “cure” him of his homosexuality. He was later told to leave home.
“My anxiety, depression, self-loathing and suicidal thoughts spiked,” he explained. “I had nowhere safe to go, either at home or school… My parents told me that, among other things, I was disgusting, perverted, unnatural and damned to Hell.”
Additionally, he spoke of the abuse he received from peers at school on a daily basis as a result of his perceived homosexuality. He said his situation worsened as he progressed throughout junior and senior high school.
“I was raised in an extremist Christian household,” he said. “My earliest recollections of my experience with the relentless and ongoing bullying was in kindergarten, but of course to a lesser degree.”
In a tragic unfolding of events, at the time of his death, Borges was trying to re-boot his life in San Joaquin Valley, California. The young man was working as an intern at The Trevor Project, an organization that works to prevent suicide among LGBT young people.
A description on the “It Gets Better” video he posted reads:
“It Gets Better Campaign” by EricJames Borges from Visalia, CA. My story is always hard to tell, even in a simplistic condensed form, but, “Many LGBT youth can’t picture what their lives might be like as openly gay adults. They can’t imagine a future for themselves. So let’s show them what our lives are like, let’s show them what the future may hold in store for them.” -ItGetsBetter.org
Watch the video, below:
Here’s a short film Borges posted to YouTube back in November as well:
(H/T: Daily Mail)
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Comments (543)
korbin
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:21pmThe fact he was a hom o has no bearing on anything, its a sexual preference. PERIOD. You don’t hear straight folks running around talking about doing it doggy style do you? I don’t, someones sexual orientation is a personal thing. Why do people use this type of incident to be politically correct. Not me, to each is own, he will have to answer for his own actions, sad yes I have two brothers not to suicide but dope, it was a choice. I don’t have anything against gays I do not agree with that choice, but in a free society thats all it is a choice, they do not need any special considerations we have enough of us tax payers already funding ultra minority groups as it is. People want to be accepted for who they are, why not be who you are. Its trying to be something your not that contributes to problems. Most people wouldn’t know your gay unless you talk about it, and thats what most gays do is share with everyone their gay. Just my take,..
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:29pmYou are correct sir. they are in your face and expect you to yield…
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:07pmMost gays share it with you? What kind of people are you hanging around? You’ve never heard straight guys talking about sex with women? Again..what kind of people are you hanging out with?
Report Post »JQCitizen
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 10:41amSane Man:
I know it’s a BIG SHOCK to us, as Americans; Contrary to what we have seen on the BLASTED TUBE, and contrary to how we behave in this nation, it is BAD FORM to Make Love and tell. There‘s a reason it’s called Pillow Talk!
Just because something has been the norm, does not mean it is good. Maybe all of us should wise up about what comes out of our mouths, and realize that Words are Powerful.
Sad that this young man felt so hopeless; his feelings are not unique to gays, but the current pressure to come out and be proud is part of the problem.
What if we ALL felt the pressure to have exposed ANY MOST PRIVATE AREA OF OUR LIFE?
Homosexual people have been around at least since biblical times; I’m sure they lived in my small rural community when I was a child, and I was taught Homosexuality was wrong, but that we should show love to, and value the dignity of ALL people.
The difference now is this DAMNED PRESSURE to Wave it like a flag in everyone’s faces!!!
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 11:47amYou have to be kidding me. You never hear straight people talk about sex? You as well as every other person know sexual content, whether it be on tv or in society, is almost always related to a man and a women. You see pictures of it on magazines, in the movies, on the streets, everywhere. To think that they are putting it in your face is ridiculous. This poor young man killed himself becuase of bigots such as yourself. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for making this comment section hate speech for someone who killed himslef because he felt as if he didnt fit in. And the reason he felt like he didnt fit in was because he didnt. His family decided to force their beliefs onto him, making him feel as if he was just wrong. Why would someone kill themself if being gay was a choice, huh, why wouldnt he just stop being gay. The same reason no one stops being gay, because its impossible. People are born gay.
Report Post »Mizurax
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:15pmFlamingFart, people are not born gay. Even science now admits that being gay is a result, at least in part, of your life experiences.
That is not to say that being gay is a choice. But by no means are people “born gay.”
Report Post »HYPNOTOAD
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:12pmto SANE_MAN: I don’t hang around guys who talk about sex. Thats not the kind of guys I want to be around. Bad company corrupts good character. I hang around Godly men who have values and love their wives and try to live a decent moral life. My wife is safe in my presence even when she is not there because I honor and respect her and won‘t say anything about her to my friends that I wouldn’t say if she was there with me.
Report Post »Bulldog2036
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:22pm….he is already answering for his own actions, he died in his sins and to make it worse at by his own hand….no RIP here…..
Report Post »Mizurax
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 4:03pmBulldog2036, you’re an idiot.
Report Post »JQCitizen
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 6:56pmFlaming Fart;
I find the way this young man’s parents treated him, and the things they said to him disgusting! I find ALL this public talk of sex disgusting! Just because people talk about it, doesn’t make talking about it right! Sex is a beautiful thing, a wonderful thing, and a very PERSONAL thing. And when God gives us children, whether through the act of sex, or adoption, and they go astray, our commitment should be to love them unconditionally, the way Jesus loved us and died for our sins.
This doesn‘t mean we don’t make value judgements about their behavior and choices, it means we don’t make value judgements about THEM!!! Every human is valuable. And whether you are convinced that Homosexual behavior is inborn, or you believe it is a choice, NO-ONE’S personhood and dignity should be denied because of their sin. If that was allowable, and the whole truth were known, we would ALL be in big trouble!!! Thank God it is not!
And as far as my neighbors, I don’t WANT TO KNOW what they are doing in their bedrooms. That is their business!!!
Report Post »jrmhrpr78
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 7:51pmMIZURAX -If people are not born gay how do you explain gay animals? You think sheep make a life choice to be gay? Use your head.
Report Post »Malachai
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:31pm“FlamingFart, people are not born gay. Even science now admits that being gay is a result, at least in part, of your life experiences.”
I love when people just make things up and pass them off as facts. No, science has said quite the opposite; that being hemosexual is NOT purely a choice and is mostly, if not fully, biological.
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;113/6/1827
” The mechanisms for the development of a particular sexual orientation remain unclear, but the current literature and most scholars in the field state that one’s sexual orientation is not a choice; that is, individuals do not choose to be homosexual or heterosexual.”
I could post more, but I won‘t as it’s safe to say very few here would actually read them or let pesky things like “facts” get in the way of making ignorant statements based on personal beliefs.
Report Post »raych048
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:56pmYou don’t hear straight people telling everyone their straight because no on condemns them for it. The reason gay people are speaking up is because every gay person since the beginning of time has not spoken up until now. In the year 2012 every person out there who feels condemned for being who they are, are trying to speak up and have a voice. If Martin Luther King Jr. had never said hey I‘m black and that’s okay, where do you think African Americans would be today? How about Susan B. Anthony? If it weren’t for her women may still not be able to vote. Everyone if fighting for equality and to tell people that its wrong to try and voice their opinion and reach out to others in the same situation as their own is just ignorant. Hell, you just stated your opinion in this post. “I don‘t mind gay people even though I don’t agree with it.” If you think gays shouldn‘t be open about being gay then you shouldn’t be open about how you feel about them. Oh, and I’m in High School. I hear straight boys talking about banging women constantly. So yes, straight people are open about their sexuality. Open your eyes and ears and maybe you’d notice that.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 10:07pm@ Billybsea
I know that the homosexual community has “invested” a lot in the notion that Matthew Sheppard was killed because of his sexual perversion. That does not square with the facts, though.
FROM “20/20″:
Former Laramie Police Detective Ben Fritzen, one of the lead investigators in the case, also believed robbery was the primary motive. “Matthew Shepard‘s sexual preference or sexual orientation certainly wasn’t the motive in the homicide,” he said.
“If it wasn’t Shepard, they would have found another easy target. What it came down to really is drugs and money and two punks that were out looking for it,” Fritzen said.
‘All I Wanted to Do Was Beat Him Up and Rob Him’
Asked directly whether he targeted and attacked Shepard because he was gay, McKinney told Vargas, “No. I did not. … I would say it wasn’t a hate crime. All I wanted to do was beat him up and rob him.”
But if the attackers were just trying to rob someone to get a drug fix, why did they beat Shepard so savagely?
[Posecutor] Rerucha attributes McKinney’s rage and his savage beating of Shepard to his drug abuse. “The methamphetamine just fueled to this point where there was no control. It was a horrible, horrible, horrible murder. It was a murder that was once again driven by drugs,” Rerucha said.
Report Post »Mizurax
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 10:34pmJrmhrpr78, I’m not going to waste my time on your gay animals comment. That is just stupid. Animals don’t know the difference.
Malachai, why are there only two options? Your quote states that “most scholars in the field state that one’s sexual orientation is not a choice.” Did I not say, “That’s not to say that being gay is a choice” ??? I did. Just because one isn‘t born gay doesn’t mean being gay is a choice.
Is depression a choice? People aren’t born depressed, so that must mean that becoming depressed is a choice right? Of course not. It‘s a result of one’s life experiences.
If people were born gay, it would have to be a genetic trait. However, studies have shown that in the case of identical twins, there are many instances where one twin is straight and the other is gay. That is impossible if some genetic trait makes a person gay.
See, I’ve done my homework on this. Stop thinking inside the box. Just because people aren‘t born gay doesn’t mean that it must be a choice. It’s much more complex than that. You need to do more research.
Report Post »xtreme
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 11:12pm****’s say they are BORN THAT WAY
Thieves say they are BORN THAT WAY
Killers say they are BORN THAT WAY
Alcoholics say they are BORN THAT WAY
Drug abusers say they are BORN THAT WAY
Liars say they are BORN THAT WAY
Rapists say they are BORN THAT WAY
Pedophiles say they are BORN THAT WAY
AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON,
EVERYONE is born with a “defect” or “vice” or as the Bible calls it, S-I-N, “SIN”
There are thousands of EXCUSES
The serial killer can not stop, he was BORN THAT WAY
The rapist can not stop, he was BORN THAT WAY
The thief can not stop, he was BORN THAT WAY
The **** can not stop, he was BORN THAT WAY
The pedophile can not stop, he was BORN THAT WAY
The liar can not stop, he was BORN THAT WAY
And on and on and on,
So, Do we give EVERYONE a “FREE PASS” because, obviously, THEY CAN NOT HELP IT, “IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT”, “THEY WERE BORN WITH THIS PROBLEM” (take your pick of thousands of personal defects, they are ALL BORN THAT WAY.
Is it True?
If yes, WHY are thieves punished? Anyone from bank robbers, Bernie Madoff, to the candy store shoplifter?
Why punish a killer, rapist, pedophile, drug pushers? After all, he was BORN THAT WAY, it was his FATE, he could not help it, he HAS to do it!!
IF we can’t stop and are BORN THAT WAY, We should never be punished. WE are born like this & can’t help it. We HAVE TO do this, is it not FAIR to be punished for things we are BORN TO DO!
WE SHOULD NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE IF WE ARE ALL B
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges07
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 4:02amAmazing that JUSTICE is done ONLY when the twisted, evil fàģgots kill themselves.
Report Post »They put the keepers of LAW in this country to shame.
KAdams
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:51am@jrmhrpr78:
Maybe a class in animal husbandry would learn you something. A male mounting another male as far as animal behavior is a showing of dominance. For your information, females do it too. I know, because I watched my female Rottweiler try and hump my uncle‘s male golden retriever’s face. 10 years prior to getting my Rottie, I had a shepherd mix that I adopted… He also tried to hump my uncle‘s then golden retriever’s face. It’s a sign of dominance. Not homosexuality, dope.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:55am@Xtreme:
The Bible doesn’t outline particular sins. The sin is rebellion from God, or disobedience. At that point, when God says not to do something, and you do it, (Thou shalt not kill) the sin is in the act of disobedience, not the act of killing. There are many instances, as I’m sure many have pointed out, where there is ‘senseless’ killing in the Old Testament. A lot of it was sanctioned by God, and therefore deemed ‘right’. When God told Joshua to go and kill all the Canaanites in Jericho, they didn‘t get punished for the ’sin’ of killing… it was God’s will. Sin is rebellion, or disobedience to God. Period. Not what the stupid Catholic Church as spoon-fed most people for years….
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:24amPosted on January 14, 2012 at 11:47am
You have to be kidding me. You never hear straight people talk about sex? You as well as every other person know sexual content, whether it be on tv or in society, is almost always related to a man and a women
Hey FLAMER,
Report Post »Man and Woman is normal and not in the populist sense of the word in the actual what nature intended literal sense of NORMAL. As in be fruitful in multiple NORMAL.
Man and man and woman and woman is TOLERATED in that no one should search them out and harm them to each his own. If an industry want to advertise to gays their also welcome to how ever they do so at their own peril. As tolerence doesn’t imply acceptance and advertisement that are offensive could lead to lost revenue.
unequivocally_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 3:30pm@ XTREME I agree with you 100% on your statement.
Report Post »martyhittle
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:16pmTO RAYCHO48: Seriously, I would have never guessed you were in high school. As I was reading you’re post I was thinking, ” … finally, an intelligent, mature, person here …” What a surprise to learn you’re still in high school. Keep up the good work!
Report Post »John Burwell
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:19pmThe book “What’s So amazing about Grace” is one of the most horrific misrepresentations of the Grace of God available today in book form. In that book the author tells a story about a prostitute who doesn’t go to churches to get help because they might make her feel worse about selling her two year old daughter men. In the authors view they should not do anything to make this monster of iniquity feel worse about selling her two year old daughter for selfish reasons.
Report Post »John Burwell
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:23pmIn fact the author likes that story so much as a means of condemning the church that he repeats it in another of his books, “The Jesus I Never Knew”
Report Post »afishfarted
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:42pmfuther pervisions of the truth will continue to pervert society.
These folks will likely never understand the phrase “God loves the sinner but hates the sin” as long as authors like this whom you speak of continue telling the lie. When someone doesn’t want to confront their problems, they can always find someone who will validate their probllem.
I had a physcolgy professor tell me that the reason a woman turns lesbian, it‘s because deep down she doesn’t want to accept the responsibilitis of her gender. Same for men–a deep seeded denial of who they are
Kangana
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:54pmWhile I totally understand (and agree with) why you would feel horrified and angry and want to punish someone who sells their two year old daughter to men, sometimes the people doing it already feel bad. Sometimes, these people just need someone to show them a way out but it’s too intimidating when there will be so much judgment. Don’t get me wrong, I don‘t care what’s wrong with you. You sell you two year old then I want you in prison! I’m just saying that sometimes, in lesser situations, what people need isn’t to be told what they did wrong– they already know and are taking harder than you could imagine–sometimes what they need is someone to show them that they don’t have to do these things anymore.
Report Post »bobball
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:58pmI have personally seen 4 people I know who lived the gay lifestyle change, repent and live a life free in Christ. In each case they were not “judged” so to speak, no one got all up in their business, although I am sure someone along the way was judgmental, people can be cruel. They just participated in their local church or family and when they accepted Christ and chose to follow HIM, they came to the realization on their own that this was not how God had created them to be. The Holy Spirit at work.
Report Post »They found the power to change, for two it was miraculous change, the other two had struggles and were helped and loved through their processing, 3 eventually married man/woman, one died with Aids. So I agree, the judging and harsh treatment of anyone struggling with sin (no matter repentant or not) is not what our job is. We are to be reflections of Christ.
ZengaPA65
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:00pmGood riddance.
Unca Muzza
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:05pmThis needs to be posted on all church bulletins. It is sad that a majority of teen suisides are due totheir sexuality and the church doctrines..What side would Jesus be…Where is that love he tells all of us to have…Is not love the basis of our faith.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:09pmWhat will go through your mind when you hear those words from the Judgement Seat, Zengap?
Report Post »DogTags
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:15pmI find Phillip Yancey to be a secular humanist and not a Christian. The great Christian theologian, Francis Schaeffer, once said of the liberal theology of people like Yancey is that it is nothing more than secular humanism in religious terms. The liberal theologian will always side with the secular humanist no matter what the issue. Whether it be abortion, same-sex “marriage,” environmentalism, social welfare, stem-cell research, homosexuality, the nature of sin, the deity of Jesus the liberal theologian and the secular humanist believe the same thing.
Homosexuality leads to mental disorders and to more suicides. That is a fact. It is a shame we live in a culture that tries to make people feel comfortable in the sins that lead them to take their own lives.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:16pmI blame emo
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:25pm.
Gay Youth Commits Suicide One Month After Posting ‘It Gets Better’ Video
If I knew I had to look at some guy’s hairy butt for the rest of my life………
Well it’s an option………
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:37pmNot surprising – gay teens are 300 percent more likely to kill themselves than heterosexual youth.
Break G-d’s design and that’s what happens.
Report Post »bigbailey1
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:57pmgod loves all of us!!!
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:02pmToo bad he did not believe that.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:18pmWhile his death (suicide) might be tragic I don’t think he was harassed in Kindergarten because he was gay. In Kindergarten Children are far too young to realize such things.
I started school a year earlier than my friends and was harassed just because I was younger. When I went to Junior High I had 3 guys in my class that had already failed 2 grades so they were 3 years older than me. I got harassed daily from these punks in 7th and 8th grade. I grew up the summer before 9th grade and had the same 3 punks in my 9th grade gym class. I can tell you that I had the best time of my life (up to then) when it came time for wrestling class. I beat the snot out of all 3 of them and never was bothered again by them or anyone else.
Gay had nothing to do with it. I was just smaller and younger than the rest. I don’t think he was ever gay; just bullied for other reasons and turned to that from feeling weak (and therefore) more feminine than the other boys around him. I’ve seen this happen to several of my friends growing up. They feel weak and soft, are told they are weak and soft, so they act weak and soft; just like most girls are. And now he believes he’s a girl, acts like a girl, can’t figure out the difference and kills himself.
Remember this Nursery Rhyme?
What are little boys made of?
Report Post »Snips and snails, and puppy dogs tails
That’s what little boys are made of”
What are little girls made of?
“Sugar and spice and all things nice
that’s what little girls
The-Monk
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:27pm@SpankDaMonkey
Report Post »You’re bad! :>)
Even a young monkey knows what smells bad…. why can’t we?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzZqje04vLE
Hobbs57
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:29pmI agree with you Monk. Kingardners can’t tell the difference in sexuality, it isn’t even biologically part of their personality. I think you are right on. I was always small, but I was feisty. I wonder who the family member was that molested him ? I have known a number of gays in my life. Some I Went to school with,one guy I even roomed for year with when I was getting sober in a 3/4 house, as there were many in the fellowship, and then I did work at an AIDS house for some time, where a majority of the men were gay. Every single case I knew personally, they were sexually abused at some point in their life. I am a psychology major, so I have always prodded into what makes people the way they are, I was even married to a Lesbian in the service ( I know, I am a crook, but I was a drug addict first). The women were mostly the same, but some seemed to just plain hate men. I never probed into the psyche because I was afraid they would bight my head off.
Report Post »With that being said, I am not judging gays. It is one of those things that thy are who they are. Just like many addicts/alcoholics I work with,some just don’t have it in them to get sober. There are many instances in life this way. Obviously we are not designed to reproduce with the same sex, so this makes it not natural. Most seem to have confused lust with love. Something many of us do, but in gays case, it happens to be have a whole other twist. Coming from abusive family, I was very confused about what love is, I learn
poverty.sucks
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:32pmCome before Christ and repent on you knees
Report Post »Have Faith in Christ and you become clean
Come to know Christ from the word you read
Live your life for Christ and get Love You Need.
Walkabout
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:55pmThe-Monk
“Gay had nothing to do with it. I was just smaller and younger than the rest. I don’t think he was ever gay; just bullied for other reasons and turned to that from feeling weak (and therefore) more feminine than the other boys around him. I’ve seen this happen to several of my friends growing up. They feel weak and soft, are told they are weak and soft, so they act weak and soft; just like most girls are. And now he believes he’s a girl, acts like a girl, can’t figure out the difference and kills himself.”
That pretty much sums it up.
I think Thomas Sowell said every new generation born are barbarians among us & they must be civilized. Certainly establishing a pecking order like animals isn’t civilized nor is it Christian. Children are barbarians. We have playground monitors not to see if some trips & falls or engages in unsafe behavior, but mostly to let them know they are being watched & to beak up fights. Even teachers have to admit kids are barbarians. The young man may have been of average height or taller, but he was definitely slight of build in the shoulders. I am sure every bully picked up on that on sight. Before that kid even opened his mouth to speak and no matter the clothes he wore, he was a target.
Report Post »gosutag
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:23am@ARI BEN TZION You are so dumb it’s beyond belief. God didn’t kill them you idiot, they killed themselves because of people who so called believe in God and ridicule those that are different from them…Typical of an idiot.
Report Post »John Burwell
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:13am@ kangan we are not talking about lesser situations here we are talking about a selfish woman selling her two year old to men for her own needs not the child’s needs. Not only should she be made to feel worse she should be in prison. All she is worried about is feeling worse? Then you people like Phillip Yancy promoting himself and his personal axe to grind with the church exploiting this two year old and her plight in order to further his own agenda with Biblical Christianity and Grace.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:18amSo why did the lgbt not help him. After all, aren’t they the ones who told him it gets better. Was it not them he turned to for help. What kind of people are these to let this young man down like that. I wonder if they will take responsibility for the lies they told him. What a horrible group of failures they are. PEOPLE, tell your children to stay away from these groups. They probably encouraged him to keep on this path. So now they can take advantage of this sad story. Disgusting. They do not care for the individual as they claim. It is more important to them to have high numbers of gays to make it more acceptable to behave this way. And of course to hate Christians. I wonder, do they hate muslims, who will actually kill them for being gay? No, we better do not talk about that, right? They are not only the most selfish people they also have no courage.
Report Post »jcannon98188
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:22amWhile I do not support homosexuality it is always sad to see a young life committ suicide. I hope to God that when I have kids they aren’t gay, but if they are will that make me love them less? No. His parents are horrible people for what they did, and they are far from christains
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 4:41am@gosutag
Where do I say in my post that G-d kill him? That’s number one.
Number two, do you suffer from allodoxaphobia of did you forget to take your Chlorpromazine?
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 6:32amYou think being gay is tough? Try being a conservative Christian Tea Partier that works hard for a living doing the right thing. I am called crazy, nut, dope, racist, hater and denied my free speech with hate mail, hate email, threats and my bank account compromised.
Report Post »I do feel sad for the loss of this young man but to blame the Church for this? Really? Then I blame Hollywood for all the drive bye shootings, teen pregnancies, car chases, gang violence and every problem in society.
Yup folks, do your research. Remove God, his word, morals, values and “laws” and every single society goes down the tubes.I pray for our troubled youth.. they are being lied to at school, media and they are falling prey to it.
rangerp
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 8:12amam I supposed to be surprised? This is what gays do.
They have the highest suicide rates
They commit one third of child molestations
They spread 64% of the nations syphilis
They carry and spread close to 70% of the nations AIDS
Lesbians are three times more likely to have an STD
They have abnormally high drug and alcohol abuse rates
They have the highest domestic assault rates
Now for the brilliant part. After ten hard years of war, when resiliancy is the big buzz word in the military, our president sees fit to unleash these degenerate sodomites on us (the military). Our current batch of gutless high ranking leaders drank the cool aid, and tell us that diversity is good and that it will all work out. We now have leaders at the highest levels of the military that are more in line (morally, ethicaly, character) with Lady Ga Ga and Madona than they are with the founding fathers, and leaders such as Washington, Lee, Patton, McArthur…..
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 8:14amFor those who are not aware or informed, homosexuality is a demonic spirit, right out of the pits of Hell, and it ‘s prime purpose is to deceive and then to kill, steal and destroy. Steal the truth of God’s Word and real life; destroy everything that is right and good and any perception thereof in the life of the one being deceived; then kill them and damn them eternally in the lake of fire, reserved not for man, but for the devil and his angels, but man, who refuses to receive the TRUTH, Jesus Christ, but deceived by Hell itself and chooses the deception of the devil, has placed himself or herself upon the road to the same destination as the devil. Exceedingly grievous, but the way out while you are above ground is still Jesus Christ, and Him only.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 8:34amGod made man and women and he created them to be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it. Genesis 1:27, 28. God gave the man and the woman the beauty and enjoyment of sex with one another, the husband and wife, to procreate, be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth, neither of which can homosexuals, lesbians, do. What God made for good, the devil always, invariably, perverts and makes ugly and in the process destroys both man and woman, who choose to defy God and take the path of destruction to Hell eternal, but the good news is both that Jesus Christ is the way out from sin, bondage and death, and the devils time is rapidly running out, and he knows it, so he is ramping up his attacks. Be not deceived but stand fast for yourself and those whom God has placed around you and in your path that you might have His influence of good over and save them from death and destruction through Jesus Christ.
Report Post »little big man
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:38amGuess he couldn’t handle the truth.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:50amoh no not another slam against Christians and parents oh no. Christians are not responsible for this young man’s problems. he was.
Report Post »GetRight
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:42pmI tried reading The Jesus I Never Knew just recently and had to put it down. I could tell right off that it was going to be a left leaning misrepresentation of Jesus’ life and teachings.
Report Post »HYPNOTOAD
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:17pmto UNCA MUZZA: I sickens me how you godless Christaphobes bash all things Christian, then try to quote the Bible and twist scripture you don’t believe in to fit your agenda. For the last time people. God Hates the sin and not the sinner. I think you enjoy being ignorant. Stick to what you know, the God hating, Christian bashing, sin loving, obama worshiping agenda.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 10:53pm@ The-Monk & Hobbs57
Report Post »Excellent, thoughtful posts. Oh, by the way, I agree with you both.
Arfmoogle
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 1:11amIf murder was legal in your state today, would it still have consequences? Why? It would because God says it is wrong. It doesn’t matter if the government would say murder is a legal or moral choice.
God never condemns people for being born black, or having red hair, or being tall. The things that God condemns are behavioral; like excessive drinking, lying, and stealing. Every behavior God condemns, or instructs people to stay away from are things that will harm us. Like a parent who tells his child not to play on the freeway, God instructs us on what to do, and what not to do.
When we think we are smarter than God and reject His instruction, we bring ourselves all kinds of problems. Some have consequences that are more severe than others.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:15pmIt’s sad when a persons sin drives them to ending their life.
It’s also sad when ignorance and stupidity raises its ugly head here on the Blaze.
Report Post »Even God doesn’t take pleasure in the death of a sinner…..but some Blaze posters do.
Be thankful you are not the one in his shoes…you could be.
Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:22pmIt is a tragic thing. The fact of the matter is that even if all people greeted gays with big smiling faces, and welcomed gays all over the world, gays would still be miserable, because God marries the opposite, and that is the law of the universe.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:24pmAnd for the very same reason I stated, they would never be fully happy unless everyone else is gay too.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:28pmAnd be it known that unless you change the laws of the universe in all the universe and outside the universe then the laws remain unchanged.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:30pmI knew I would come on here and find hate, condescension, self righteousness and preaching.
You never fail me, christians.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:34pmFor the very same reason that the earth revolves around the sun with invisible forces holding it in place, the same way is the marriage between the material world and the un-material world, and there is nothing you can ever do about it.
Report Post »seanscythe
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:44pmSee he was right it does get better… Oh wait to much >.< Sry I guess since the Evil churchy people forced him to killl himself…….. wait they didn't O_O he did it on his own. Ohhhh…….o_O idiot.
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:44pm@ELIASIM You never cease to amaze me with your commentary. You really believe gay people want everyone to be gay? I‘m gonna go ahead and guess you don’t know many gay people and don’t live anywhere near them (at least the open ones). Anyway, they don’t. It’s just what your brain-washers would have you believe so they can more easily control you due to your fear.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:45pmPeople over-look the fact that they are not here now, on this earth for themselves, but that they are here for God. God isn’t here for people. Another way of putting it: the universe was here long, long before people, and it will be here a very, very long time after people are long gone. People are born a particular way because there is something the universe (God if you will) needs from their fruit/soul, from their experience in life. For those born with blindness it may be unto them to look deeper into their heart, or maybe develop fine tuned ears to compose music that enlightens the heart.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:49pmsane_man,
Report Post »Lol. They are not going to tell you that they would be much happier if everyone was gay. It’s that they would be happier if everyone was gay.
symphonic
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:49pmIt’s sad when a person dies. Always. It’s tragic when a person takes their life, because it never was a good thing, never. That makes it a WRONG choice. The COP OUT is when people think it was someone elses fault other than the person who took their own life. That’s like saying, “well he made me mad, so I pulled the trigger and killed him” and we watch that person go to jail. Suicide is not innocent. If we could, we would throw that person in jail for murder. Many people, distraught, kill others. It never makes it right because we were distraught or depressed.
Report Post »FieldHouseFishHouse
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:59pm“Lol. They are not going to tell you that they would be much happier if everyone was gay. It’s that they would be happier if everyone was gay.”
Breathtaking logic. LOL Indeed.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:01pmPeople are here, and the earth is here to serve God, and the Universe. If the earth serves no purpose for God and the Universe then it might as well be tossed into the sun and disposed of.
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:03pm@FIELDHOUSEFISHHOUSE Indeed.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:19pmSuicide is a terrible thing. Personally I have a big problem with it, but I still do feel bad for this kid.
However, because I have a sense of humor that is darker than a moonless night, I can’t help but find some tragic irony in all of it. Sometimes a healthy chuckle is the best way to get through a tragic situation (AKA, pull a Dr. Hibbert).
Report Post »bigbailey1
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:00pmThanks you CC. Hopefully people will read and learn.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:46pmCaptain
Report Post »He1l we ignorant people you refer to are sorry we can’t rise to your intelligence level. Dern I guess we will have to learn more and make a comment you can appreciate. Thanks
Cesium
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:03pm@Elisiam Why is it do you know how old the Universe is? God or scientists? I wonder what your perspective on the universe and people would be 500 years ago yet you seem to have this satisfied answer to the purpose of people from what science has gleaned.. Your “idea” is as dead as an untestable hypothesis.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:29am@ bible quoting
I bet if there were a cure, some kind of medication, I bet you most gays would not take it,
They are poor souls though. They are trying so hard to be normal and accepted even to themselves,
They thought they would feel better if they come out of the closet. Well, that did not do it, OK if we get some kind of recognition for a relationship. Yes, that will do it. It didn’t. We need the same benefits as normal couples get. It didn’t work. Marriage yes that’s it. No, not enough. We want children to grow up in these relationships then we will be equal or somehow feel better about us. The last and most important is the Bible and the Church. When we get rid of that then we will feel better about us.
They do not know that it is their own conscience that torments them. They try to fix this dilemma from the outside for what is wrong on the inside. We all suffer from this dilemma, therefore we need salvation and healing, all of us. Gays and any other person on this earth.They are to be pitied and to be prayed for. God is patiently waiting for each one of them to come to know the truth and to be free.
And about Christians, most of them would probably hide an atheist or muslim homosexual, when the muslims go after them to hang them. I would, would you? So, do not be so fast in judging Christians. |You do not know what you are talking about.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 8:05amI agree– I think–at least in part.I’ve known many alcoholics–and drug users who –like some homosexuals are so tormented by their chosen behavior-and addiction that are blinded to Gods Truth.
Report Post »I agree God does not take pleasure in the death of a sinner-Nether does He take pleasure in those who continue in sin after they have heard the good news. My mother committed suicide when I was on order for ‘Nam and she was going through the change of life. For Years I looked for someone to blame for her choice. Then I came to understand -like too many combat vets she chose to leave onher terms rather than live a life in pain. I am reminded as well of Dr.Laura Schlessinger how she has been
punished and persecuted for being honest about that mental disorder–homosexuality.
rambosharley
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 8:47amI have 2 sons that are grown and not gay however, if they were I could not throw them out of my life. My love for my children runs very deep, as it should. Nothing could ever change that. I wonder if this guys parents really “kicked” him out of their house and for what reason. As for being bullied everybody gets bullied….big deal….it’s how you deal with those who bully you….stand up to them, fight back don’t be afraid. Once you show them your willing to fight back they leave you alone.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:17pmLeopold,
I know a half a dozen gay people who attend church regularly. I know that many so I’m sure there are plenty. Don’t assume all gays want religion wiped out just because people like you seek to exclude them.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:07ambible quoting
If you would have read the whole post you would have discovered that I said they need help salvation and healing which comes from God. God loves them just as much as he love you or me.
Report Post »TheChurch
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:14pmThe youth of America are being sold a bag of lies by the left. This young man needed understanding, love and a strong moral compass that is Jesus Christ. This “do what you want” BS is ripping our children apart. It is so sad to see another life destroyed becase no one cared enough to say they knew a better way. Sin – of any kind – never leads to anything better for anyone.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:54pmI completely agree. As a Christian I never not ever am rude unkind or in anyway treat homosexuals differently, ever. I believe that accepting people with faults mine included is what we are here to do, encourage and try to help if asked. This way of life society is throwing at our children is not going to lead to anything positive. There is a huge drug use and suicide problem in the whatever lettered community we are using today. It isnt because of us not understanding or accepting that they are feeling depressed and out cast, it is because the lifestyle is not correct physically genetically or emotionally. The biggest disservice the the counselors and psychiatric doctors did was stop treating this as depression and emotional problems. They are robbing their patients of the truth. mY PRAYERS TO THIS FAMILY
Report Post »bobball
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:04pmWell said HorseCrazy. Unfortunately those that treat people with respect and dignity (even if they totally disagree with their choices) are the majority of Christians. But we do not make the news and will be ignored by users like “BIBLE QUOTIN‘ SCIENCE FEARIN’ CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN” cause we don’t help their agenda.
Report Post »Blackop
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:44pmThat’s what killed him, you idiot.
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:09pmHow long you think it will be before we see even more gaytheist liberals blame the churches for this when it is our godless educational system that is the root of the problem,when we had school prayer we didn’t have kids coming to school shooting each other or the teachers like today thanks to you “free thinkers”for imposing the will of a few misguided morons on the rest of us.
Report Post »livedasawsj
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:39pmJust blame Ron Paul…everyone else does..I tripped and fell down today so it must be his fault..
Report Post »Discord
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:09amBlackop is right. He was told that what he was doing and what he was was wrong, and abused because of that. That is why he killed himself; because he was being treated badly by people who thought they knew what was ‘right’.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:27amthis isn’t an agenda. it’s commentary.
Report Post »John Burwell
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:14pmThe truth is that homosexuality is a very destructive lifestyle choice that does not get better, ever.
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:47pmIt’s not the “truth” It’s just your skewed point of view. Not accepting people who didn’t mess with you in any way is destructive to our entire society. What happened to the ideals of personal freedom and personal choice and not judging others lest ye be judged? Oh I forgot, it’s not convenient to not be a hypocrite.
Report Post »GodWillPrevail
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:14pmI agree my cousin left a wife and 5 children fatherless for his boyfriend (both were cops and partners). He moved to San Francisco and lived that lifestyle for nearly twenty years. But was never happy he was strong enough to avoid suicide though and came back to his 80 Year old mother. He completely repented as much as possible (he could not reconcile with any of his children or ex wife). He completely left that lifestyle and is now happy again as he was during the first several years of his marriage.
God is right period. Homosexuality is a grave sin. It is sad this child would not listen to his parents he might still be alive. God can not possibly be pleased with America now. But I look at God as eternal. I believe in the next life fully so to God you just go from a physical to a spiritual life. However if by Suicide you also have that to repent of and it is very difficult to do so.
I also honestly believe many of those that promote the gay lifestyle as a choice people should be allowed to make will have much repenting to do as well. This is also a grave sin in my belief. You may not agree with me but in the next life you will have no choice but believe, at least by final judgement.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:17pmSane, how did you come up with your wild idea of what he wrote? Your comments seem like you may have put them in the wrong place, intended for a different post. It happens.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:56pmSane WTF
Report Post »Yes I judge this things playing with homosexuality as wrong and evil and sin and destructive and perverted and I judge it wrong for me if I did the same. FOOL
lezziefemme
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:10pmI think all of you that would condemn or mock this young man’s death are just plain disgusting.
Report Post »God loves everyone. That’s what the Bible says, plain and simple. In the end, that’s what it boils down to.
When Jesus died on the cross, he didn’t stop and say “hey, remember to kill the homos”, and God didn’t strike down homosexuals when his Son died. So why is it so hard for his “followers”- what you call yourselves- to accept that simple truth?
Because it’s easier for you to hate people who make you feel insecure.
I am an (admittedly non-practicing in the past year or so) Roman Catholic, aged 16, female, relatively attractive, athletic, healthy, outgoing, involved in school with great grades; I wear skirts, cook, clean, sew, can knock back a drink or two, my three best friends are all heterosexual white girls who go/or used to go to Catholic private schools. And I’m a lesbian with a girlfriend.
Now, what are you implying is “woman’s role” that lesbians don’t accept?
Because right now all I can think of is procreation. Which is a totally personal discussion that religion will NEVER belong in. The belligerent attitude of Christians towards anyone who is not heterosexual-cisgender continues to amaze me. Have you ever spoken to God? Do you not realize that your Bible was written by extremely biased white men thousands of years ago? Grow up.
Continuing:
In the end, this young man was a human being. I’ll pray for him to be at peace.
Debate welcome @ http://oh
VoteRightDammit
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:19pmLezzie
I was about to simply respond in a bland and PC way, but that is absurd. YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
No one is mocking anyone’s death. You are paranoid as all get out.
Most here are not all that emotionally touched by this gay guy’s death for TWO reasons: (1) they are not personally acquainted with him; (2) They rightfully see the guy chose – voluntarily – to adopt for himself an horrific life within a sub-culture whose suicide, drug addiction, health risk, mental illness, angst-quotient, and isolation are well known to be far ~~~ FAR ~~~ worse than the general population. Now, YOU claim (without merit or support) this is because of the meanie normal people who are just so, so mean to gays. Hogwash.
YOUR anger and hatred – so very evident in what you wrote – is because of the life you have chosen. Many here are actual Christians and KNOW, from personal experience, there is a way out of the mess for you (and for this poor guy, had he just availed himself of it). But you are unlikely to avail yourself or if either – because you have chosen to blame others for your unhappiness rather than change your life.
Pity — but, remember —— most people are also not personally acquainted with YOU, and also are aware you have it in your hands to improve your life. So, should you do something that even further devastates your parents and siblings, do NOT think it will make all of mankind sad. It won’t.
Report Post »John Burwell
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:54am@ sane-man no other lifestyle is plagued with the emotional and physiological maladies that accompany homosexuality. educate yourself and don’t fear the truth.
Report Post »John Burwell
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:26am@lezziefemme I know that reading the scriptures and accepting them as the word of God is anathema for Roman catholics, but you should have a look in the scriptures. God is angry with the sinner everyday, He abhors all evil doers and workers of iniquity, psalm 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
Report Post »12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready. This includes but is not limited to homosexuals. Jesus is not returning as a little child or a meek servant the second time. He comes to execute judgment. Romans 1: 24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
025: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
026: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
027: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
028: And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
029: Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full
carbonyes
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 7:25amBURWELL, succinctly said and very true, but SANE_MAN, as usual, does not know what he is talking about. Being GAY is an aberrant lifestyle, no matter how the world tries to portray it. It is against God, nature, and always gets worse, never better. God never has and never will condone or accept a gay relationship. The world will, but the world is condemned, least the world, a sinner, receive and accept Jesus Christ, be set free and live a normal lifestyle. Normal is heterosexual, not homosexual. Every culture and society, from the beginning of time, that accepted homosexuality and promoted it, has ended up upon the trash heap of history – no exceptions and one of the chief reasons the United States of America is not only sliding down the slippery slope to destruction, but the pace is accelerating.
Gay people, if they are bent on continuing their abhorrent life style and more particularly flaunt it and promote it in every avenue of life, get very ugly, both internally and on the outside. For verification, just look at those in the media and Hollywood, certainly quite the opposite off the bastion of morality. they are spitting in the very face of God, basically telling Him that they are going to do what they want, whether God likes it or not. God is not mocked. His judgement has already begun upon this nation. God will judge every soul upon the face of this earth. He will also judge nations. This nation is traversing a path for which it will answer severely. Sad but true.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 6:08am@Johnburwell
Great post. I happen to agree. Homosexuality is nothing but self-centered, sadistic, masochistic, twisted and vile. A large percentage of homosexual relationships are based solely on lust and sex, with a lot of that being painful.
@Lezzie:
You are correct, Jesus does love everyone. He just doesn’t love what people do. People like you, don’t love Him, because He wants you to stop being wicked, to stop giving over to vile affections, and basically stop doing what YOU want to do, instead of taking up your cross (your homosexuality) and following Him. And you don’t want to. Therein lies the dilemma… Wallow in your own conceit, or learn to be selfless and give up all to follow Christ?
Report Post »raininseattle
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:10pmThis is so sad. Read the book What’s So Amazing About Grace. Christians are not to condemn. What is so different about this sin? Is there someone out there cheating on a spouse? This has HUGE generational ramifications, but who cares, its not like they are gay. What a sad mark on Christianity. I am sad for this boy.
Report Post »keaton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:17pmCheating on a spouse is horrible also. It hurts children immensely. Saying that it is horribly harmful, is not hateful towards those that cheat. Hopefully it will cause some to pause, before they make that choice.
Report Post »John Burwell
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:36pm@ Raininseatlle The book “What’s So amazing about Grace” is one of the most horrific misrepresentations of the Grace of God available today in book form. In that book the author tells a story about a prostitute who doesn’t go to churches to get help because they might make her feel worse about selling her two year old daughter men. In the authors view they should not do anything to make this monster of iniquity feel worse about selling her two year old daughter for selfish reasons.
Report Post »John Burwell
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:40pmthe church is to reprove all work of darkness in word and in deed, we are to call sinners to repentance towards God and faith in Christ. God has chosen the “foolishness of preaching” to save those that believe.
Report Post »There are too many professing Christians who do not read the scriptures.
The10thAmendment
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:10pmBilly the islmaopervert and h om o fondler saw fit to delete another of my posts. I’ll pray for the family, but the problem is this “kid” whined like a me me me spoiled brat, rebelled against sound doctrine, and defiled himself by being an unrepentant queer. It‘s a shame his actions shame his family’s name, not anything people have to say. He was so fearful of his own lifestyle that he committed suicide. That too was a choice, as was his perversion.
Judgment is of God, not man.
The LAW
Lev 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”
The JUDGMENT
Rev 21:27 “And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”
I feel awful for the family that tried their best to do the right thing. Their son had a choice, and he chose poorly.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:49pmRAIN
Report Post »God condemns this kind of lifestyle. Rain are you trying to shut God up. No I didn’t think so. FOOL try thinking before you shoot off your mouth and pea brain. Now go back to sleep. Fool
Doctor Nordo
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:51pm@10th
His family shamed themselves perfectly fine without the help of their son. They should have offered him love, but instead they ostracized him, called him “of the devil”, and even kicked him out of their home after having an exorcism performed on him! These are not the actions of someone who is interested in actually helping someone AT ALL.
Report Post »zoro51
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:09pmHATE US if u will YOU will never KNOW what its like to be bullied in general or to be hated for being GAY MY people we wont go quietly to the back of the bus nor be thrown UNDER IT.. somehting happend to this kid to have him kill him self.. MY suspect the CHURCH never gave HIM any solice nor comfort but HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL youre a SIN HELL HELL HELl when jesus said HOW can YOU tell your brother hes got a 2×4 in his eye when YOUVE got a REDWOOD SEQUOIA in your own eye.. as a GAY MALE white caring. the youth of today HAVE it easier than before BUT still have the same HATE thrown at us by so called CHURCH leaders n SO CALLED CHRISTIANS.. one more COMANDMENT i leave unto you jesus said.. THAT YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER as i have LOVED YOU.. not HATE BECAUSE….
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:18pmMy brother is gay. I love him a lot. He would tell you differntly nbecause it is his “gay” agenda to say that the family and the Church does not love them.Total crap lies.
I love you…I hate your sin.
Report Post »John Burwell
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:25pmI certainly am not endorsing bullying of anyone, but you don’t have to be gay to be bullied, being openly Christian brings open “bullying: as well.
Report Post »LibertarianForLife
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:32pmDon’t worry, the greatest lie ever told is becoming uncovered more and more every day. Christianity is already in its final death throws, as science moves on, it is of course; inevitable. With over 50% of the country now in favor of your right to marry, it is clear the book of fairy tails doesn’t resonate anywhere near what it used to. Keep fighting the good fight, enjoy your life in anyway you deem fit. “Today‘s religion is tomorrow’s mythology.”
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:36pm“HATE US if u will YOU will never KNOW what its like to be bullied in genera”
are you delusional? christians are the most persecute religion on earth, other than the jews….
get a clue most people have been bullied at one time or another….
you sure sound like you’re full of hate….
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:40pm“Don’t worry, the greatest lie ever told is becoming uncovered more and more every day.”
yeah the big lie of evolution is fading fast.
” Christianity is already in its final death throws, ”
you know at the turn of the 20th century about 10% of nigerians were christian, now its about 50%….got any more lies for us?
“as science moves on, it is of course; inevitable. ”
you mean the same science that christianity founded?
“With over 50% of the country now in favor of your right to marry,”
is that why you lose every vote? 31-0…and have to try to force it upon via the courts?
” it is clear the book of fairy tails doesn’t resonate anywhere near what it used to”
yeah that racist atheist fairy tale…On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life, sure doesn’t…
oh why don‘t you list thoes ’favoured races’ for us…..you won’t but its in the white of your eye….
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:50pm@RUSH_IS_RIGHT Your comments are despicable…not to mention absurd. Christians are the most persecuted on Earth. Unequivocal BS and I’ll bet you know it, but still say it anyway.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:54pmUh-oh! Another self perceived victim. Unless your “crticism” is positive- – -
Report Post »beverlee
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:02pmThat’s right, no one in the world who is not gay has ever been bullied. For, let’s say:
Too short
Too tall
Too black
Too white
Too Christian
Too Jewish
Too Muslim
Too ugly
Too pretty
Too smart
Too stupid
Most don’t harrass out of hatred, they harrass because they cannot understand or identify with the other individual. The more people push their differences in others faces, the more those people will not like them.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:52pm@beverlee
Report Post »You forgot too young. As in being in a class at school where you are the youngest.
rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:56pm“@RUSH_IS_RIGHT Your comments are despicable…not to mention absurd. Christians are the most persecuted on Earth. Unequivocal BS and I’ll bet you know it, but still say it anyway.”
first of all you lied about what I said,…let me repeat it…reading is fundamental…..
“are you delusional? christians are the most persecute religion on earth, other than the jews….”
and its the truth…have you heard about the Sudan perhaps..where christians are enslaved and murdered? how about the recent violence in nigeria,…where christians are being bombed…how about Iraq? how about Egypt? how about Pakistan??
are you getting a clue here? probably not, you’re far too ignorant, hateful and bigoted against christians…no doubt you cheer on the persecutors of christians.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:01pmZOrO
Report Post »Shut up. Hell Hell destruction shame perversion unhappyness disease self hate suicide. Finally get your hand out of your pants and listen to someone with sense. Fool, Please kill your usless self.
Sparky101
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:27pmSuch a sad and misguided thing to say to anyone. You should be ashamed (the operative word is “should”) but that doesn’t seem possible.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:58pmUmmm exsqueezzeee me! Kids bully about any and everything–have you ever observed a bunch of 7th grade girls!!!? How bout the girl that gets bullied daily for being fat??? Or ugly??? or not having the right shoes!? We had a teacher when I was in 7th grade who had buck teeth, the kids bullied and teased him so bad he quit his job and had a nervous breakdown! It’s called LIFE!
Report Post »This kid was totally excepted and LOVED in his “community” he said so himself! He said he never felt more loved in his life and he STILL killed himself because he was pro-choice! He “CHOOSE” to kill himself! Tragic end of story in which HE and HE alone is the ONLY one responsible! Deal with it! Jesus said; “In this world you will have tribulations, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world”!
Accept HIM-start loving people, including yourself, love God, stop thinking about selfish sex 24/7 or how you were “hurt”…we ALL were in one way or another! God Bless and Good luck..DON’T wind up like this kid! PLEASE!!
Lord_Frostwind
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:54pmPersonally, I could care less what Gay people do with their own time. My problem is how everything bad that happens to them is my fault for not showing them enough love, I wonder if they really are that pathetic. Quick question, what love have they given me? Oh wait, I’m a Mormon, and therefore I don‘t deserve any of their love because I don’t approve of what they do. You know what, they can go sit and spin, I won’t stop them, but if they want my approval, absolution or anything else they might as well give up because they aren’t going to receive it. If that’s reason enough for them to kill themselves, then that is their problem, not mine.
For the record, if you think life is hard because you’re homosexual, try growing up a Mormon in Evangelical central. I bet I’ve seen more real discrimination than most gay people would begin to imagine.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:24amLIBERTARIANFORLIFE, God is preparing the sheep from the goats. Trust me, you don’t want to be found among the goats – not a good place to be, and that is a profound understatement. There is still hope for you, but the only place you will find the TRUTH is in and through Jesus Christ. Plain and simple. It’s a choice.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 6:15amYeah, for a short time in 1st grade, I got bullied by a black kid named Algernon all the home from school everyday. I was a little white blind girl. This was Macon, GA, 1977. Nope. Don’t have to be a homosexual to get bullied.
And Zoro, you probably didn’t get bullied for being gay, you got bullied for all CAPS. It’s the age of the interwebs. We know.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 6:16am*edit above: blond, not blind (someone needs new letters on her keyboard).
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:08pm““I was raised in an extremist Christian household,” he said. “My earliest recollections of my experience with the relentless and ongoing bullying was in kindergarten, but of course to a lesser degree.””
Maybe bullying causes becoming gay in a significant number of people? If we can measure most if not all the psychological inputs in a persons life from birth to age 15, it would be interesting. I bet we would find the cause for being gay a whole faster then we would find a gay gene.
If you press gay posters some will say even if there is not a gay gene there may be epi-genetic factors. Is suppose. But someone remarked that DNA is like writing in pen & epi-genetic expression is like writing in pencil. Which leads to think that if being gay is epi-genetic it can be cured.
Report Post »Theodwulf
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:53pm“Maybe bullying causes becoming gay in a significant number of people?”
That’s an interesting theory…if bulling started long before sexuality started….
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:33amWALKABOUT, huh?
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:05pmAnother life tragically lost. After being made fun of myself for “being gay,” I can say that I know how he felt–just not in an extreme sort of sense–uncomfortable in your own skin.
Report Post »bringiton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:09pmWaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:11pmDo you expect NOT to be made fun of because you are gay? Everyone gets made fun of in some way or another. Flaunting your gayness, as most gay men do, will indeed bring on trouble. Wake up fool. i make fun of Obama, Michael Moore, Charlie Sheen, Al Sharpton and a host of other idiots. Think your gayness should be off limits? get real…
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:47pmDo you expect NOT to be made fun of because you are gay? Everyone gets made fun of in some way or another. Flaunting your gayness, as most gay men do, will indeed bring on trouble. Wake up fool. i make fun of Obama, Michael Moore, Charlie Sheen, Al Sharpton and a host of other idiots. Think your gayness should be off limits? get real…
A) I’m not gay. Your ignorance speaks volumes for you, far before you even dare speak a word.
Report Post »B) “Wake up fool”? I’m not the one day dreaming. Making fun of PEOPLE is your problem. Policies and positions are completely within limits; ad hominem attacks on who a person is are not.
C) I’ll pray for you.
Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:36pmYour post says you are gay. Read it.
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:39pmWhere do I come before you proclaiming homosexuality?
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:43pmDANIELMCHICK ~
What I am getting from your, and similar, posts is that you seem to think that the bullying or teasing that you have encountered was more common or more intense than other kids had dealt with for other reasons.
In 7th grade, my face broke out in pimples galore. It stayed like that for a couple of years, and right at a time where the girls were catching the eyes of the boys. I had become hideous. I used to look at myself in the mirror, stick my tongue out and tell myself I was a freak. I couldn’t walk around with my hair in my face any more without tripping over furniture.
That experience had a huge affect on me and shaped my personality. It also brought me closer to God. We talked a lot. :)
We cannot expect others to change because they never will. We have to learn to play the hand we are given. If everyone had been told to stop the teasing and name calling, I would still have felt out-of-place. I, personally, did not like how I looked. That‘s what it’s all about.
Report Post »niki
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 8:44amBut if you thought your lifestyle was “right” and “good”, then why do you care what others think? I‘m mormon and I’ve been made fun of and harassed my whole life. If I was beat to death I would be at peace with who I am and what I believe as I was dying. Whether or not I like myself, or am happy or whatever, DOES NOT come from what others think of me. If how you live your life is “good” and “right” then it shouldn’t matter what others think of you. I understand being bullied and how much it sucks, but a large percentage of kids are bullied, and most aren’t gay. How is it that most kids can be bullied and not kill themselves but gay kids can’t endure and we are now told we need to accept and brainwash our kids in school to accept this kind of behavior so this kind of thing stops. Why is everything a “Gay” thing?
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:36am“But if you thought your lifestyle was “right” and “good”, then why do you care what others think? I‘m mormon and I’ve been made fun of and harassed my whole life. If I was beat to death I would be at peace with who I am and what I believe as I was dying. Whether or not I like myself, or am happy or whatever, DOES NOT come from what others think of me. If how you live your life is “good” and “right” then it shouldn’t matter what others think of you.”
That’s the problem–there’s nothing to be ashamed of. If I were exclusively gay, I see no reason to be embarrassed. I wouldn’t be ashamed of myself either.
“I understand being bullied and how much it sucks, but a large percentage of kids are bullied, and most aren’t gay. How is it that most kids can be bullied and not kill themselves but gay kids can’t endure and we are now told we need to accept and brainwash our kids in school to accept this kind of behavior so this kind of thing stops. Why is everything a “Gay” thing?”
Well, context has everything to do with this being a “gay” thing. I find this personally offensive that you’re dubbing an entire group of people as “weak” for one person’s loss of life. Even worse, I find it personally offensive that you dub education on the subject as “brainwashing.” Do as Glenn tells you–read a book and enlighten yourself.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:05pmMy brother is gay. He suffers from the same delusions and ups and downs. He tells people lies like this kid has said, like he was raised in a Christian household that performed an exorcism and he says he was kicked out of the house. Both lies…It’s like the gay story on how they are so put down, almost all lies. The all have afflictions from “being put down”. Which is almost always total BS.
I love my brother. He is now 50, alone and depressed, but still putting out the same bullcrap stories like this kid tells. Lies on top of lies that i have confronted him with. He still lies about his “sufferings as a gay man”. The suffering is at his own hands by telling people how bad he has it. I think he actually believes the lies he tells, therefore bringing on the depression…I know of one time my brother actually was attacked. He deserved it because he acted like he was performing a gay sex act in front of some Marines. they did not touch him, only yealled at him and threatened him. To hear him tell the story though…they beat the hell out of me for no reson ws his new story for a long time…Total crap.
Gays cannot procreate, so they have to have a sad story to bring others into the fold. The stories are almost always lies or they have brought attacks on themselves by flaunting their gayness. I feel no pity on them.
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:07pmThat’s disgusting, ignorant, and completely bigoted.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:14pmAbsolutely true and because you are gay you cannot stand the truth of the matter. My brother is an outright liar about the suffering of his gayness. Like being told people dont like t see gays hold hands in public, you react by attacking society with even more PDAs……You need help to get out of your deciept man.
Report Post »keaton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:15pmThanks for sharing that story. I have suspected that happening in gay people i associate with.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:19pm@ Keaton. It is so sad because he is a really good kind and caring man. He is also a complete liar that puts forth the gay agenda by telling the fake sufferings ad nauseum. Confronting the lies makes them worse too…
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:23pmYour brother doesn’t have a partner? I & everyone else are continually told by the bigotted PC crowd that gays are normal. If that were the case we would expect them to form partnerships at the same rate as heteros. The same rate of partnerships, the same number of breakups & divorces. I’m not shocked that we are fed a pack of lies & told not to believe our eyes.
Report Post »keaton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:27pmBaddoggy. I think they have to make up the lies to assuage their conscience.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:34pm@ BADDOGGY
I’ve also seen the same exaggeration and out-an-out lying from gays I’ve known. I‘m not saying it’s common, but I have definitely seen it.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:36pmYes I agree Keaton. He has no use for other people, only “the cause”. He does have rotating (no pun) partners for sexual purposes. Not as bad as it used to be. He was once a man that had sexual realtions over 10 times a night when he was young (that is another gay secret). Now I venture to say, it is a weekend thing. I know he participates in group sex as he brags about his prowess…(realyy dont know what is true and what is a lie)
I do indeed love him. he is after all my brother. But sometimes his stories are way out of reality and i know it…
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:59pm“Yes I agree Keaton. He has no use for other people, only ‘the cause’.”
It sounds like he has deeper emotional problems than you’re willing to admit. Being gay doesn’t create social isolationism.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:07pmDan
Report Post »there you go again being so boring with your comments. Are you 11 years old. Fool
P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:10pmBADDOGGY Thanks,you are a gentle person of wisdom.
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:15pmYou’re quite the knee-slapper yourself, PC. ;)
Report Post »OklahomaBound
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:34pmI’m not surprised by your brothers story Baddoggy, keep in mind that most gay people are leftist and as we all know leftist are good at both lying and making themselves out to be victims to gain sympathy and validation for their immoral acts and crimes.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:40amBADDOGGIE, not a bad statement, but DANIELMCHISK needs to get a life, what is he a man or a chick? Seems a bit confused. Solution DAN, get your life right and together through Jesus Christ.
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 10:03amThat’s hilariously ironic and hopelessly ignorant. Just because I don’t mould to your description of Christianity, doesn‘t mean I’m not a Christian.
Report Post »Kirsten
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:02pmSo tragic, this is heartbreaking.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:06pmTragic. He’s without pain and anguish now.
Report Post »See you in the Millennium, Eric James.
keaton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:30pmDisagree. He now knows real pain and anguish. An eternity seperated from God. Heartbreaking!
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:03pm@ Keaton “Disagree. He now knows real pain and anguish. An eternity seperated from God. Heartbreaking!”
Report Post »You are correct, in that he is separated from God on the other side of the gulf of Luke 16. That truly is not a good thing.
The Great White Throne Judgement has not taken place yet. Not till after the Millennium. So, he has NOT been condemned to ANYTHING for the eternity.
Walkabout
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:58pmAnother person destroyed by the gay posse.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:47amAnother person who made two bad choices, once when he choose the fruitcake lifestyle, the second, and probably worse, was when he chose suicide. Before suicide, there was hope, Jesus Christ. After suicide all hope was lost to him. Another victory for the Dark Side.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:57pmMan, that sucks. So sad, life has ups and downs, you should never give up, it does get better.
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:09pmAgreed. No one should have to be ashamed for loving another person.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:34pm“No one should have to be ashamed for loving another person”
what? how about pedophiles?
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:50pmWithin reason, “Rush_is_right,” obviously. If you have a sexual “love” for children, you obviously have a problem.
For you to take the most absurd position possible to disagree with me speaks volumes about your inherent lack of an argument.
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:04pm@DANIELMCHICK It speaks volumes indeed.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:31pmHey, he brings up a good question, why must you avoid the obvious answer? Actually I already know the answer to this one.
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:41pmI sincerely hope you’re not talking to me, because I obviously didn’t avoid the obvious answer.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:52pm“For you to take the most absurd position possible to disagree with me speaks volumes about your inherent lack of an argument.”
uh its not absurd to people like NAMBLA and their allies at the ACLU….and if one sexual preference gets special rights, then why not all sexual preferences?
oh and words mean things.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:01pmSure you did. Sometimes exaggerating, or going to an extreme point, serves to show the fallacy of the counter point (yours). He nailed you – accept your punishment. Your position is wrong and he showed you just how easy it is to point it out.
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:08pm“uh its not absurd to people like NAMBLA and their allies at the ACLU….and if one sexual preference gets special rights, then why not all sexual preferences?”
This logical nihilism is stunning. You think the right to have a union (not marriage, mind you) between to people of the same sex is equal to bestiality or pedophilia?
“oh and words mean things.”
Which is why I agreed with your assertion.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:10pm“Sure you did. Sometimes exaggerating, or going to an extreme point, serves to show the fallacy of the counter point (yours). He nailed you – accept your punishment. Your position is wrong and he showed you just how easy it is to point it out.”
oh so you don’t like taking things to their logical conclusion do you…let me guess, you must be a liberal!!
there is no fallacy to my point…once gay marriage is forced upon us…polygamy is next…why limit marriage to any 2 people?
and then pedophilia is after that…after all the age of consent laws have changed throughout the history of this country….all it takes is one judge to declare them ‘discriminatory’
why don’t you answer my question…if one sexual prefernce gets special rights, then why not all?
polygamy is just another sexual prefernce…lets see you deny it.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:13pm“This logical nihilism is stunning. You think the right to have a union (not marriage, mind you) between to people of the same sex is equal to bestiality or pedophilia?”
uh I didn’t say beastiality…nice lie…
but yes if you can have marriage for gay people then why limit to one sexual preference and not all?? hmmmm?? you can’t answer.
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:13pmSometimes exaggerating, or going to an extreme point, serves to show the fallacy of the counter point (yours). He nailed you – accept your punishment. Your position is wrong and he showed you just how easy it is to point it out.
Umm, No I didn’t. If you’re going to focus on an argument, focus on it in the entirety. Otherwise, you’ll damn yourself by not having the full context–like you did here. I’ve already accepted his assertion and moved on with the discussion. I don’t see what the problem is with you.
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:22pm“uh I didn’t say beastiality…nice lie…”
Uh, I didn’t write it in a statement-form. Otherwise, I would have ended the sentence in a period. Nice diversion.
“but yes if you can have marriage for gay people then why limit to one sexual preference and not all?? hmmmm?? you can’t answer.”
I didn’t say “marriage,” did I?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:34pmUh Rush, calm down. I was not speaking to you. Nuff said?
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:00pm“Sometimes exaggerating, or going to an extreme point, serves to show the fallacy of the counter point (yours). He nailed you – accept your punishment. Your position is wrong and he showed you just how easy it is to point it out.”
my point is not a fallacy. uh why is my position wrong? just saying its wrong doesn’t make it so.
my position is correct. again try to answer the question…if one sexual preference gets special rights, why not all of them?
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:38pmHey guys, this poor kid took his life. It is sad. No one should ever give up, I went through a terrible divorce decades ago, I was young and thought the world was coming down on me and was losing my daughter. I had some older guys I worked with that kept telling me “Things get better”. Sure enough, I met the most beautiful, wonderful woman, I have been married for over 20 years, and life got better. That’s all I am saying, this youngman wasted his life and this is tragic. No matter what you believe, this young man deserved to live to see a better day.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:00pmdanielmchick
So Be4 you act is not part of the LGBT movement?
Report Post »danielmchick
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:27pmUmm, no it isn’t. And the fact that you’re equating the two shows just how ignorant you are.
Report Post »niki
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:05am@danielmchick
Report Post »Of course rush_is_right needs to take the most absurd point of view. That’s what you should do when you are trying to see what is right or when you are arguing a point. Like glenn was saying, if Gay marriage is ok what about people marrying more than one person, or marrying a man AND a woman. By looking at the most extreme situation, it helps you to define where lines should be drawn, because someone eventually will bring up the exact same, extreme point of view and say, “Why not”?
danielmchick
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:28am“Of course rush_is_right needs to take the most absurd point of view. That’s what you should do when you are trying to see what is right or when you are arguing a point.”
Arguing semantics is a sound, but last-ditch, effort used by people who have nothing to offer substantively to a conversation. That’s exactly what happened.
“Like glenn was saying, if Gay marriage is ok what about people marrying more than one person, or marrying a man AND a woman. By looking at the most extreme situation, it helps you to define where lines should be drawn, because someone eventually will bring up the exact same, extreme point of view and say, “Why not”?”
If you’ll notice, I have not advocated gay “marriage” here, or anywhere. In fact, I’ve advocated publicly that civil unionship should be the only thing that the government recognizes, gay or straight. For you, Glenn, or anybody to advocate that a monogamous relationship is in anyway correlated to that of a bestial, polygamal, or pedophilial relationship is simply a sign of ignorance. Christianity doesn’t have to recognize Homosexual unionship/”gay marriage.”
The government, however, is a completely different story.
Report Post »leona6256
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:57pmIt is clearly sinful to practice homosexuality, but no more so than any other sin. His parents were not followers of Jesus. They should have told him they loved him and would pray for him. They could see him and not participate in sin. They seem like odd people.
Report Post »They could calmly tell him they cannot accept his lifestyle and remain caring and loving to him. You cannot show anyone the love of the Lord if you do not have love in you. All if us have sinned and without the Lord, our sins, all of them are unable to be conquered. As Christians we are commanded to rebuke and to council someone in sin with LOVE. Jesus showed kindness when he healed and then told the man at the pool to, “go and sin no more lest a worse thing come upon you.” You can show love for the sinner but not the sin. The rejection by his parents probably pushed him over the edge. I am totally sad. I wish someone had shown him real love without compromising faith. It is possible,
Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:07pmThey were not followers of jesus? NO…he said that he was raised in a Christian household that performed an exorcism on him…Of course it was an outright lie…my brother who is gay has the same story about our family…It is a total lie.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:13pmJesus came to save us “from” our sins and not safe us “in” our sins…He would that all would repent and sin no more.He said, “if you believe not that I AM he, you will die in your sins.”
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:22pmYe BO…there is only one unforgivable sin…The rejestion of Christ is unforgiveable…all other sins can be washed away. All you have to do is ask.
Report Post »Nemo Trax
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:36pmBadDoggy,
So, Jesus was very clear on those who divorce. More so than on homosexuality. I don’t see the same attitude toward the twice sinning Gingrich here. Jesus is angry at you for the selectively using the Bible to articulate your hate.
Leona, I may not agree with you, but you are clearly compassionate in your faith. Perhaps your prayers will save BadDoggy from God’s wrath.
explaij
Report Post »toto
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:38pmMy biggest problem with gays is that want validation of a promiscuous life style. I will never accept that promiscuity is okay and should be treated with respect. Not for heterosexuals either. It is associated with tremendous pain and suffering visited upon our children and for the participants themselves.
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:41pm@NEMO TRAX It can’t be explained because it has nothing to do with truth or rationality. It‘s about people’s retarded emotions towards homosexuality and other things they dont’ understadn or engage in.. Hypocrisy abounds and we’re chin deep in it here.
Report Post »Dr. Sax
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:53pmAgreed, Leona
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:13pm@TOTO Who ever said gays want validation for being promiscuous. This is in your own head fed to you by the scare/hate-mongerers in the media you consume. Promiscuity is all over herosexual culture and juts as widely celebrated if not more so. The point is that homosexuals and heterosexuals are no differnet in this reagrd.
I find it weird how, as a heterosexual male, I just can’t be bothered at all by gay people. People who are different have never bothered me. i guess it‘s because I’m secure in who I am and don‘t really have time to be worried aboutt what other people engage in in their personal lives if it doesn’t hurt me. What a bunch of righteous busy bodies we have in this country!
Why can’t othes be this way?
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:58pm“I find it weird how, as a heterosexual male, I just can’t be bothered at all by gay people. People who are different have never bothered me”
apparently christians sure do…you just ooze with hatred for us….
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:38pmSAne
Report Post »You are the ignorant unlearned fool.
These homosexuals do harm to others as they, Less than 2% molest over 98% of the children molested. This alone is cause enough for their extinction. Not to count all the constant in your face with some cartoon type lifestyle. And another thing. There is more to a woman than a surgical procedure and hormones. Fool Please keep the crap up. Fool
Baddoggy
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:28amNemo…Forgiveness of sin through Christ is hate? Wow…better go tell Jesus, he is feeding us some wrong information then…fool.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:54pmWhy is this story here? What is the point? Is it intended as a surreptitious indictment of The Blaze readers? Is it intended to make us feel guilty? Man, we’ve got liberals at The Blaze.trying to make us feel guilty. This is the tact liberals always take. Sorry, I’m not biting.
Report Post »TOMSERVO
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:04pmI dunno, maybe the blaze is testing the bigotry of it’s readership? Although I don’t see how that could be in doubt after multiple years of the same commentors posting the same hateful garbage.
Report Post »BODYBAG
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:25pmThis is just the continued indictment of Christianity. CNN does it all the time. Once per
day or so they run a piece about some snake handlers or parents who let their kid
die because their “faith” doesnt allow medicine, or ones who punish the kids for bad
behavior but its distorted to look like child abuse….and its all attributed to those
“extremist, fundamentalist psycho christians”.
Its a sociopathic stealth type smear. Its MSM propaganda. Joseph Goebbels style.
On the other hand, any mention of Islam or Judaism is accompanied by sympathy
and an overbearing aura of victimization. Followers of Islam will threaten to kill you
for any criticism no matter how slight:
http://www.ajc.com/news/islamic-web-site-warns-477785.html
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/016-insulters-islam.htm
Make any comment/observation about Jewish faith and you’re branded an
anti-semite or Holocaust denier.
Traditional Christians are savaged daily and never say much of anything. Why?
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:26pm@ TOMSERVO
I‘m tired of people who have such high regard for themselves they think they’ve been granted the obligation in life to make others feel bad. Suicide has no sexual preference. Suicide has no religious preference. Teenagers from all walks of life commit suicide every year.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:30pm“I dunno, maybe the blaze is testing the bigotry of it’s readership”
you may want to check the mirror for bigotry…just sayin….
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:33pmMaybe it’s not about feeling guilty but about the ability to show empathy for someone you disagree with? That the loss of a human life is a bad thing, even if you vehemently disagreed with the way they lived their life?
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:52pmThis is unfortunate. I feel for his family.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:29pmLol, Why is that?
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:17pmBring it on
Report Post »I like your comment.
P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:22pmModeration
Report Post »We are tired of the constant weak spineless feminization of mankind. We need strong opinions of condemnation of this most heiness crime against mankind called homosexuality and less of the bleeding hearts. Don’t you know that less than 2 % of the population molests more than 98% of the children molested. We have got to stop these sodomites. Sure their families suffer, but they are better off without these perverts destroying our children.
ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:45pmFirst off, they aren’t YOUR children.
Second, the way you feel about homosexuality is the same way I feel about religious beliefs. I‘m an atheist and have been told on numerous occasions that i’m “a plague” and that they’ll raise their kids to hate me, despite the fact that I encourage people who are religious. Do I feel they are misguided? Yes, but I also realize I don’t have the right to impose atheism on anybody.
My main response to the guy who responded to me(which is gone for some reason) was he said “I feel sorry for your family.” The reason I asked why is because I‘m thinking he was assuming i’m gay, which I’m not. I just have empathy for the loss of a family who lost a son.
Continue being hateful, and teaching others to be hateful, it seems to give you joy.
Report Post »kconservative
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:52pmI could understand the MSM making this into a huge story, but not the Blaze. Here this is news http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNeFinscgQ
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:52pmAnother teenager chooses suicide because he had not the maturity or skills to deal with his emotions. While sad I don’t think news sources should pander to his wish for 15 minutes of fame just because he was gay. This only encourages copycat behavior.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:51pmRest in peace, son.
Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me.
Report Post »korbin
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:11pmPeace on earth huh? what does someone who kills themselves have to do with that? The fact he was a **** has no bearing on anything, its a sexual preference. PERIOD. You don’t here straight folks running around talking about doing it doggy style do you? I don’t, someones sexual orientation is a personal thing. You and people like you use this type of incident to be politically correct. Not me, to each is own, he will have to answer for his own actions. I don’t have anything against gays I do not agree with that choice, but in a free society thats all it is a choice, they do not need any special considerations we have enough of us tax payers already funding ultra minority groups as it is.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:14pm@VECHORIK
I’m on your side.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:37pm@Korbin
How does this boys suicide have ANYTHING to do with you? Stop being an egotistical, ignorant moron and be able to show empathy for someone’s family who lost a son.
You can disagree with him all fine and well but to sit here and think this story has anything to do with you and to revel in his death is demented.
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:50pmRest in Peace…
Report Post »My Condolences to the Family…
JohnnyMidknight
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:50pmI wish he could have found peace in life. I wonder why people will go to such extremes to ostracize individuals based on sexual preferences. I know the Bible states that a man should not lay with another man like they do a woman, but the bible also teaches love and respect for your fellow human.
I wish he could have met some of my personal friends who are gay and learn the world of acceptance of society. Even I would have accepted and supported him, though I am straight. Why do people take their faith to such extremes, as he claims his parents and school mates did? Granted, this is all alleged, but something was seriously wrong if his only answer was to take his own life.
I know he might not have appreciated this due to his physical experience with religion and intolerance of others, but I pray that you find the peace and love you never found in life Eric.
Report Post »keaton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:01pmHis parents were warning him of the dangers of his personal choices. That was loving on their part. It is sad he didn’t heed the warning. At least they didn’t acquiesce ,and live with that on their conscience.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:21pm@ keaton
Exorcism? What kind of heeding is that? That is more like parents thinking they can change something that just is…
And is this is from a loving parent?
“My parents told me that, among other things, I was disgusting, perverted, unnatural and damned to Hell.”
Is it not Jesus that said, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”
IE It is not his parents’ place, nor ours, to judge one for their sins. We are supposed to acquiesce and show through our actions by being living examples.
I’m a Jew, and I seem to understand more about Jesus if you think that their acts were pious. Luckily, I don’t judge that either and I pray for them and their lose. Obviously, you think it is your place to judge what is sin and be persecuted, so I will include you in my prayers as well that you may see the folly of your ways.
Report Post »keaton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:37pmHe was almost surely lying about the exorcism! His sin made him feel unloved. Any child that rebels against his parents , feels that way. It is what consciences are for. Deep down he knows what he is doing is wrong. His parents don’t have to say anything.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:24pmHow do we know that his boyfriend didn’t dump him? It’s always a bad argument to blame others for your problems, when your reactions are all you can really control. I wish this young man had been a bit stronger, so that he could have lived long enough to get some real answers.
It is interesting how many mental illnesses crop up in the late teens and early 20s, and if unrecognized, can lead to such terrible consequences as suicide.
All I can say to any person reading this far, is please don’t make a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If you truly feel like taking your life – seek help quickly – NOW, don’t wait. Things come and things go. You win and you lose. You have success and you make mistakes (sometimes bad ones). But the one this young man avoided most, also loved him the most.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:30pmI will ask to be thrown out of a heaven where such nasty people are allowed. I do not want to be amoung queers for eternity.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:14am@ keaton
Again, your are judging his sins and calling him a liar. Note I said allegedly! This leaves room for his parents not doing such acts. I will not claim one man’s act a sin, as it is his duty to acknowledge his short comings in the eyes of God and ask for forgiveness. My duty is to turn the other cheek and forgive any transgressions (save for some serious crimes against humanity like murder and rape).
While I understand the position of the old testament, we all must understand that this was during a time where life was tough and the Jews were wanderers (IE nomads). This is why homosexuality was pretty my looked down on in their society (it was about surviving and perpetuating the race. Not to mention that people who are Christian and hold the lines of Leviticus as the strongest case (or St Paul’s letters to the Romans). Please note, Jesus never once talks about homosexuality. And Christ was to replace the Old Covenant.
So, if Jesus was really about condemning people based on their sexual behavior, then it would go against everything He is when he forgives the thief on the cross next to him. Again, it is not our position to judge one’s salvation.
Report Post »democritusoilder267
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:47pmThis is sad. I never understood how anyone can dislike someone who is attracted to the same-sex. I have faith in God that this is not a sin or evil. God bless this young man.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:55pmIt is a sin in both Testaments.God is not double minded.A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:00pmDemo
Report Post »Your faith is in some made up god of your own twisted mind as the true God of the Bible and Father of the only begotten Son Jesus has condemned this homosexuality as sin and those who hold to this sin will be destroyed with it. There is a plan to counteract this sin problem and that is found in the Bible. Go there and forget your own made up religion as it seems quit faulty.
MONIFICENT
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:43pm@bo and pc He God also said no lying , stealing , sex outside of wedlock told us to pray for our leaders and pay taxes he said there was one gospel and he also said all sin was sin I.E. no sin was worse than any other . but maybe you missed those parts
Report Post »TANK3584
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:46pmAre there Gays in hell??….He chose to be gay just like he chose to kill himself…….Please spare me.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:57pmGod hates the sin and loves the sinner.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:39pmGo Tank. I agree.
Report Post »keaton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:46pmConscience! Apparently it doesn’t get better!
Report Post »TOMSERVO
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:50pmNice, it took 2 posts before the bigotry is on full display!
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:02pm“the bigotry is on full display”
what exactly is bigoted about what he said?
can you spare us the liberal talking points?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:28pmWhy is the blogger of the site JoemyGod single? Look at his picture. He is not a bad looking guy. He is successful & very social. So how is it that at about 50 something Joe, who has had 2 or 3 partners find himself alone? The answer is because he lives a gay life style.
Was he bullied? Could he measure up? Well he could but they would never let him know. Becoming gay is the result of abuse & not genetics.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:23pmTom
Report Post »I’ll bet you see a bigot behind every tree right next to the racist. Boring comment but ignorance ruffles my fur. Fool
sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:38pmOooh I can’t wait for this.
Report Post »phillipwgirard
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:44pmWith all due respect, this is NEWS?
Report Post »RightThinking1
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:48pmSane:
Report Post »I am not sure what it is that you are waiting for. It seems clear that this is a tragic end. It might be very easy to say that it should not have happened…, but how it might have been avoided is another matter altogether. I rather doubt that anyone here will have a good answer, and there very well may not be a good answer.
sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:57pmI agree it’s very sad and tragic. To clarify: I was waiting for the inevitable cold-hearted, homophobic, bigotry to display itself. I didn’t have to wait long.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:03pm“To clarify: I was waiting for the inevitable cold-hearted, homophobic, bigotry to display itself. I didn’t have to wait long”
and I was waiting for typical brain-dead liberal talking points…didn’t have to wait long….
Report Post »bringiton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:17pmSANE_MAN? Is that like SMART_CAR? Buttplug.
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:37pm@RUSH_IS_RIGHT Nonsense. Talk all you like about “:liberal talking points”. I knew some here would express their glee or callousness that this guy killed himself because of their homophobia (which is usually attributed to being gay but in denial). It happened and I was right. It has nothing to do with my politics. I think you proved my point and are continuing to do so.
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:38pm@BRINGITON Congrats! One of the dumber and more non-nonsensical replies I’ve seen on any post. Enjoy your moment – you earned it.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:42pm“knew some here would express their glee or callousness that this guy killed himself because of their homophobia (which is usually attributed to being gay but in denial). It happened and I was right. It has nothing to do with my politics. I think you proved my point and are continuing to do so.”
so ‘ooh I can’t wait for this’ is bigotry and hatred? do you even know what he is talking about? I don’t …you just assume….
and how did I prove your point…
you see you haven’t explained why you say what you said…how that first post is bigoted…and gee what a surprise you go right on to say I am bigoted…all without any proof….
thanks for proving you’re a talking point parrot.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:47pmLol wow, accusing someone else of being a “talking point parrot” while posting under the name “Rush Is Right.” That takes guts.
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:00pm@RushIsIRight: No I explained it. You just don’t understand it. There’s a difference. Let me try again with less sarcasm and then maybe it’ll seep in. When I saw this story I know people would start condemning being gay and seeing it as “ah well see?”. At best. At worst they would just be blatantly homophobic and callous. Both happened and it didn’t take long. Do you dispute this somehow. What would be nice is if we could have an adult conversation as fellow human beings about how to deal with this sort of thing. Some posters attempted this. I guess I pessimistically figured it would go downhill. Sadly I was right. We good now oh thou disciple of “the great fat angry one”?
Report Post »sane_man
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:02pm@MODERATIONISBEST So true. But of course the irony will be lost on this blind disciple of “The Great Fat Angry One”.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:50pm“@RushIsIRight: No I explained it. You just don’t understand it. There’s a difference. Let me try again with less sarcasm and then maybe it’ll seep in. ”
the only thing you explained was your hatred and bigotry..i asked you SPECIFICALLY how the comment….oooh I can’t wait for this….is bigoted….
“When I saw this story I know people would start condemning being gay and seeing it as “ah well see?”. At best. At worst they would just be blatantly homophobic and callous. Both happened and it didn’t take long. Do you dispute this somehow”
uh yes you didn’t start your own thread…you responded to a specific comment…and your inability to explain it speaks volumes about YOUR hatred and bigotry.
“What would be nice is if we could have an adult conversation as fellow human beings about how to deal with this sort of thing”
deal with suicide? there is no ‘dealing with suicide’ it happens…no matter how much we want to prevent it…whats bigoted and hateful is your blaming of christians, which I have no doubt that you do…given your sarcasm, and your obvious bigotry and hatred….
so maybe you’ll get my point…but I doubt you’re intelligent enough to get it…you’re not nearly as clever as you think you are.
“We good now oh thou disciple of “the great fat angry one”?”
yeah we’re good oh hateful, lying bigoted ignorant one
rush_is_right
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:51pm“Lol wow, accusing someone else of being a “talking point parrot” while posting under the name “Rush Is Right.” That takes guts.”
unfortunately for you, it doesn’t take much to make you look stupid…which is what I‘ve done every time we’ve conversed…
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:10pm@RUSH_IS_RIGHT
Lol? What are you babbling about again?
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:42pmSAnE
Report Post »Phobia implies an uneducated fear. I have read your book and I still Hate Homosexuals. Fool. You seem to have a phobia of education.
Twobyfour
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:00pm@Allegeddly_Sane_man who’s saying: “because of their homophobia (which is usually attributed to being gay but in denial).”
Royt. Because I loathe Islam, I’m then Islamophobic, because I fear/deny my inner jihadi.
Shove your pop-psych into your waste chute.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 4:22amMost of the comments on this site are anti Christian and anti Beck. They are clueless to empathy sympathy or commonality with their fellow humans. Reminds me of Legion. We are definitely as Christians told to not cast our pearls (wisdom) before swine. At the least gays are honest about who they are. These comments are dark and hide behind “Christianity” as a shield and standard to hurt Christians. Simple. They are secular and have probably never read a scripture nor would they. Mathew 7 tells it well. All will be judged with the same measure they judge. It is sad that many young people in USA have not enough love or support to make it through their young lives. Also the first commandment in the 10 which is so “offensive” is: You shall have no other gods before me. Man has now declared himself his own god and anything goes especially judgment. And yet we have free will to either be good or be evil and this is what they chose. Sorry for the young man. Wish I could have been a friend for him. (Now watch the slime fly).
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