Gazans March Against the ‘Judaization’ of Jerusalem, ‘Release Al-Aqsa From the Impurity of the Jews’
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Some might say protesting the “Judaization” of Jerusalem is akin to protesting the “Catholization” of The Vatican. Still, that is precisely what happened when tens of thousands of Gazans took to the streets Friday in a rally aimed at “saving” Jerusalem from its “Judaization. The procession, not surprisingly, was organized by Hamas, with offshoot marches held in other Arab countries.
Israel National News reports the main procession started at the Al-Omari mosque immediately after Friday prayers, with demonstrators later arriving at Palestine Square, where a rally was held with the participation of Hamas’ prime minister Ismail Haniyeh and Deputy Parliament Speaker Ahmed Bahar to name a few.
“When we say that we agree to a state within the 1967 borders (1949 armistice line –ed.) with its capital in Jerusalem, our intention is contingent on non-recognition of the Israeli entity and on the return of refugees,” Haniyeh said.
During the rally, protesters waved posters which read, “Al-Quds (the Arab name for Jerusalem) will remain Arab and Islamic,” and the participants chanted, “We will sacrifice our souls and our blood for Al-Quds.” One of the speakers, parliament member Mushir al-Masri (Hamas), said that the weekly Friday protests illustrate the willingness of Muslims to do everything for the liberation of the Al-Aqsa mosque.
Masri added that the the Arab Spring would soon rise up to “release Al-Aqsa from the impurity of the Jews,” snuffing out any illusions that the Arab Spring is moderate.
Haniyeh said during a meeting with Sunni clerics in Egypt that “Palestine” is, unequivocally, considered holy Islamic soil.
In keeping with their new “stop the Judaization of Jerusalem” theme, Hamas and other militants are staging additional rallies.
Last week, Hamas announced its intention to hold a “million man march” in Cairo which would also protest against the “Judaization” of Jerusalem.
Previously, the sheikh of Al-Azhar University in Cairo, a top religious authority of Sunni Muslims, warned Israel not to continue the “Judaization” of Jerusalem.
Meawnhile, Sheikh Ahmed Al-Tayib declared at a press conference that the “Judaization” of “Al-Quds” and harming the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound would prompt the annihilation of “the Zionist entity in Palestine.”
With Palestinian leaders telling the world in their very own words their intentions — that they will not recognize Israel and instead seek its destruction — is there still doubt that the Palestinians have never wanted a genuine two-state solution?
Bold emphasis added by The Blaze.
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notreally
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:51amIn one hundred years substituting the words “Al Aqsa” and “Jews” with “Britain” and “Christians” will be the Muslims’ cry.
-1/29/07 Daily Telegraph UK: 40% of Muslims, ages 16 to 24, want Sharia law; 13% admire al-Qaeda; 36% believe apostates should be executed; 75% believe that women should wear veils.
Report Post »-7/27/08 Sunday Times UK: 33% of Muslim students support killing for islam; 33% want world Islamic law.
-1/30/09 Timesonline: UK Muslim growth 2004-8 was 10X faster than the rest of society.
-7/10/10 Sunday Times, UK: Islamic law has been officially adopted in Britain, with Sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.
-10/28/10, Daily Mail: Mohamed or derivatives of that name is now the number one name in all of England.
Fla Del
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:09pm11/26/11 God is still in charge. His blessings are there for whoever asks for them.
Report Post »Mahammad is unimportant. Alah is unimportant. Evil lives but cannot win.
It does not matter if 33% want everyone to convert to Islam. It will never happen.
They will make noise. Kill people. Make themselves and others unhappy but
they lose. God wins.
Polwatcher
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:56amWhenever I hear these Muslim creeps spew out their hatred for Jews (and devout Christians BTW), it reminds me of that evil little guy with the mustache that tried to kill all the Jews (and a lot of devout Christians) during WWII. That evil little guy and his Third Reich had a central spiritual belief derived from Celtic beliefs, much different than Islam. For some reason the Muslims loved that evil little guy and still admire him to this day. I wonder why?
Report Post »Steve
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:13pmFunny you shuld say that. they worked together in slaughtering the jews in WWII
Report Post »MMSands
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:23amIf it weren’t so hypocritical, it would almost be laughable. Unfortunately it is pure hypocrisy, and it’s not even going to seem funny “someday.”
Report Post »blaaaaackwoman
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:05amArabs aren’t a very good looking people are they. God beat the whole race with his Holy ugly stick.
Report Post »Alabama Patriot
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:16amWhat about Screwey Louis Farrakhan?
Report Post »Findalis
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:04amIn June of 1967 Israel had the best chance to get rid of the eyesore. Pity that they stayed their hands.
Report Post »discus02
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:25amThe only cleansing is the cleansing of the Muslims in the Holy Land. Go pray to the big rock in Mecca!
Report Post »Steve
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:17pmAnd even that was stolen
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:52amActually, Al-Aqsa = El Aqua, the “Arab Spring”, i.e., the springing up of water from the ground to wash clean the Arab arses that had impertinently dropped deuces onto holy ground in complete ignorance as to the insult said behavior represented to Allah, thereby saving their sorry arses.
In other words, Arabs should be thankful for the ground they are stil able to walk on, and should quit blaming others for their own stupidity.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:47amInteresting, Shariah means “way” or “path to the water source”.
Report Post »I was wondering if the verse below could be a possible reference to sharia law.This was written before Islam existed.Could there be a connection here????
Rev 12:15-17 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Joshua7
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:46amWith all the water references it might be worth remembering that the 13th Imam will supposedly crawl out of well.
Hmmm…
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:23amI could care less what a persons personal belief in a Supreme power is, but when they think they can march on the world to conquer it, I’m going to have something to say. Mohammad the goat herding pedophile who started that abortion of idol worship of the sun god, will lose, and will lose dramatically.
The bastard children of Ismael who created their own idols in counterfeit to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Sure, Ishmael came from Abraham, but he was not the chosen seed, nor from whom the chosen people would come. Ishmael went and created of race of idiots who created paganism, and have hated Gods people, and wanted to supplant His choice, but it won’t work, except on uneducated fools like liberals, marxists and communists. There’s a bad day of reckoning for Islam in America. We’re fed up with your idol worship, and defiling our land. Unlike that cesspool of the middle east, with its coward people, you will be crushed by Americans whose God IS the Lord.
My prayer is that True Israel will rise up and send the filth of Palestinians to the other Country‘s that don’t want their stupidity. Syria didn’t want you, Egypt said no thanks, Lebanon gave you the boot. The reason is because you are hideous, and filthy, perverted, and ignorant.
I don’t dislike what Islam stands for, I detest EVERYTHING about their false idol worshiping. Political correctness be damned. Tolerance can kiss where the sun don’t shine.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:15amThe muslims are always trying to pull some crap even trying to get the U.N to declare the tombs of the patriarchs ( jews) declared national heritage sites .If you ask yourself why and research it you will see that would take them away from the jews and christians who would no longer be able to go near them. Places like josephs tomb or the church of the nativity in bethlehem.then they could bury them and cover them up like they did most of the wall around the temple mount there is only a small section of it visible today called the wailing wall……..Arabs must be trying to start the OJ movement to finish there caliphate plans .
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:35amHi Scout..in a book by Joel Rosenburg “Epicenter” I believe that it iis the “Dome of the Rock” which the Muslims changed the sacrifice of Issac,.(Abraham’s legitimate son) with Ismael…Abraham‘s illegitimate son from Sarah’s maid Haagar) and where the Temple Mount was…built over it the Dome of the Rock..Anyway…as I remember from the book…the Muslims placed a graveyard there because they fear that Jesus will come back and they think that he won’t cross a graveyard.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:14amZech 14:16-18 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Report Post »17. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
BurntHills
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:41pma finely tuned surgical strike should remove that filthy mosque from the face of the earth.
God bless Israel and whatever they choose to do to defend themselves and their eternal homeland.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:38pmit’s a crying shame that Israel wanted peace so bad they ever allowed the muslims back into Jerusalem and that troublemaking victory mosque. Jerusalem, Israel has been the hometown and capital of the Jewish nation of Israel for over 5 thousand years. the youngster serial-murder cult islam has only been around about 1400 years.
Report Post »Christianity and the Original church of Jesus Christ: the Holy Roman Catholic Church, is far older than islam, we’ve been around for 2 Millenia.
BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:43pmThe RCC came about in 325 A.D. and were nothing like the original Church started (and still going today) on the day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2.The gifts of the Spirit still operate.
Report Post »HYPNOTOAD
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:40amYes BOMUSTGO you are exactly right. I love my catholic friends but they are NOT the founders of the Christian church like they pretend to be. But Hollywood always shows Christianity as catholic and weak against the enemy.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:51am@ HYPNOTOAD,,I was born and raised in the RCC.In 1982, God showed me “A more excellent way.”
Report Post »m2art48
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:26pm19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, VENGEANCE IS MINE; I WILL REPAY saith the LORD. 20 Therefore IF THINE ENEMY HUNGER, FEED HIM; IF HE THIRST, GIVE HIM DRINK: FOR INSO DOING THOU SHALT HEAP COALS OF FIRE ON HIS HEAD. 21 Ben ot over come of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Report Post »Romans 12:19-21
dontbotherme
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:25pmI fear Jerusalem may already be overtaken. I wonder how many of our code pink, union thugs, 60′s radicals, etc… are over there leading the insurrection in the streets. God bless His people, the Jews. Keep them, and us, safe through what is about to happen.
Report Post »Knightflyer2011
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:07pmAlthought I do not agree with the islamist and their hate twords jews,I understand it after much study.Isreal is an illegal settlement given to the jews after much lobby
Report Post »ing durning WW2.I myself am not blinded by zionist like Glen is and also understand the evil both parties do in this troubled world.To be honest I could crareless is israel survives or does not.One thing we as Americans must do is cut off all aid to israel as well,the rest of the world and start taking care of our nation,border security and such.Plus I would never allow a jew nor a muslim to operate in the CIA,FBI or other sensitive areas or jobs in our nation.Both have proven to be not trustworthj.
MUDFLAPS
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:10pmwow you sound like an enlightened dude.
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:12pmKnightflyer: You need to study History a lot more. It would also be helpful to read the bible. There is a lot of Historical fact in the Old Testament.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:21pmSome of us happen to see Israel from the Biblical point of view. You, with your comments are helping to fulfill the prohecies about Israel and Jews being hated in the last days.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:47pmThis is what a blaze member bible researcher wrote a few days back.. Borders of the NATION of ISRAEL was given by the creator, LORD of ALL & King of Kings Please read in Genesis 15:18 The FULL NATION of ISRAEL Includes ALL of Jordan, Most of Syria, Northern part of Kuwait. All of Lebanon,1/2 of Western Iraq, 1/3 of Saudi Arabia ((northern part)) All of the Suez of Egypt & the Western part of the border of Egypt on the RED SEA. Had they done when the land was given to them, destroyed ALL that stood against them, we would not have this trouble today, but they did not OBEY the LORD.
Report Post »Now…even though they did not obey God..he ratified His covenant with them..meaning that it is an unconditional covenant..Read all of Romans 11 to see that we Gentiles are merely the wild olive tree..while Israel is “of ” the true vine..they are still God’s chosen. They are blinded until the full number of Gentiles have come in. Then God gathers all the nations to go against Israel and Jesus steps down onto the Mt of Olives and all of Israel will be saved..Then another cou of some sort happens and one third will be saved..leaving the remnant. They will not have the blinds removed from their eyes until God is ready..Everything has been predetermined..you cannot go to God unless He calls you. Same with them..God said in the old testament..those who stand with Israel will be blessed..those who curse Israel will be cursed.. He said it …I believe it!!
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:44amMark 12:1-12, “And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man {God} planted a vineyard {Jewish Nation}, and set an hedge {God’s commandments} about it, and digged a place for the winefat, and built a tower {Temple}, and let it out to husbandmen {Pharisees}, and went into a far country {Heaven}. And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant {Prophets}, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard. And they caught him, and beat him, and sent him away empty. And again he sent unto them another servant; and at him they cast stones, and wounded him in the head, and sent him away shamefully handled. And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some, and killing some. Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son {Jesus}. But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours. And they took him, and killed him, and cast him out of the vineyard. What shall therefore the lord of the vineyard do? he will come and destroy the husbandmen, and will give the vineyard unto others. And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner: This was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? And they sought to lay hold on him, but feared the people: for they knew that he had spoken the parable against them
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:10amJohn 8
28Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.29And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.30As he spake these words, many believed on him.31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.33They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.37I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.38I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.41Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:13am42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?47He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.48Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?49Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.50And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.51Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:16am52Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.53Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:55Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:02amRomans 11
1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.2God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,3Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.4But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.6And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
{Israel is not banned from salvation and evidence is the fact Paul is an Israeli of the tribe of Ben. Just like Elias thought he was the last believer standing but God kept a small group of believers, at the very time of Paul a small group believed while the majority were disobedient and rejected Christ.}
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:05am7What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.8(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.9And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:10Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.11I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.12Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
{The elect had kept obedience and faith in God while the remaining rejected God’s law and were blinded into sin. Even unto the day of Paul many were blinded in their own sin and rejected Christ. Did they stumble so far they could not be saved or are banned from salvation, no, but due to their “blindness” (disobedience) Gentiles might be able to be saved thru belief in Christ. Those who stumbled finding Christ and joining gentile believers will be the highest riches.}
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:11am13For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:14If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.15For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?16For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
{Paul speaker to the Gentiles loved the thought that he may provoke his own decedents, Israelis, up to belief from their stumble and blindness through preaching to the once banned Gentiles.}
17And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;18Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.19Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:13am{By rejection of Christ natural branches were broken off allowing Gentiles to be grafted in thru belief in Christ and keeping of the root, commandments. Pride is not off God’s commandments and boasting about being grafted in shows you are not off the root. Unbelief broke off the natural branches and boasting, unbelief in commandments, might get you broke off as well}
22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.24For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
{goodness God allowed all to be saved thru Christ and severity of punishment that is eternal. A natural branch that believes in Christ can very easily be put back in place but only thru belief.}
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:15am25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
{Paul explaining the mystery of gentile salvation to prevent being conceited like the disobedient Jews who thought it was bloodline that saved them. Jesus came from Zion as a Deliver to turn ungodliness from Jacob thru the covenant to take away sin. Paul explains Jesus came and was sacrificed for all sin no matter the bloodline., thus Gentiles able to obtain salvation}
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:17am28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes.29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.30For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:31Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.32For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
{The Jews disobedience is for gentile benefit. Just like when Gentiles were disobedient the Jews benefited. Thru disobedience God/Jesus is the redeemer. We must stumble in order to be saved. If we never fall short what need is there of salvation? The election of small group of Jews who believe are for the Father’s sake. The only path to salvation is thru Jesus Christ.}
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:28am@KnightFlyer
Keep your faith. You are correct and do not let anyone shake that truth away from you. No matter what bloodline someone obtains if they reject Jesus Christ they are of their father Satan as Jesus said in John. Only thru belief in Christ will He adopt them and they obtain God as their Father. All can be saved but only thru belief in Jesus Christ.
Your assessment of physical Israel is correct as well. Many are willing to deny their on Messiah’s words in John simply to follow a lie told many years ago that one must die for Israel or not be blessed by God.
I hate no one and wish ill on no one but as a believer in Jesus Christ I will not support anyone who denies Jesus Christ as Lord. Anyone doing so is being unequally yolked and allowing themselves to be led astray.
Stay safe and keep the faith.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:43amReplacement theology is false.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:51amZECH 12;9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that ID will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. (10) and I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem. the Spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierce, and they shall mourn for Him as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for ahis firstborn. ZECH 13 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleaness (2) And it shall come to pass in that day saith the Lord of hosts that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land and they shall no more be remembered and also I will couse the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land. Zech 14″1 Behold the Day of the Lord cometh (2) For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle and the city shall be taken and the houses rifled and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity and the remainder of the people shall not be cut off from the city(3)Then the Lord shall go forth and fight against those nations as when He fought in the day of battle.(4) And His feet shall stand that day upon the Mt of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall split in the middlle toward the east and toward the west and there shalll be a great valley and half of the mountain shall move
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:06amtowardthe north and half toward the south..(5) And you shall flee to the valley for the valley of the mountains shall reach to Azal Yes you shall flee as you fled brfore the earthquake, in the days of Oziah..king of Judah and the Lord thy God shall come with the saints with Him(6) and it shall come to pass in that day the light shall not be clear, nor dark (70 but it shall be one day known tho the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shallcome to pass that at evening time,,it shall be light.(* and it shall be in that day tahat living waters shall go out from Jerusalem:half of them towrd toward the former sea and half of them tward the hinder sea :in summer and winter it shall be. (9) and the Lord shall be king over all tthe earth in thatet day shall there be one Lord and his name One.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:30amTHis may post twice but backing up to when all the idols and false prophets are removed
Report Post »Zech 13:8 And it shall come to pass that in all the land, says the Lord, two thirds shall be cut off and die, but the third part shall be left therein.(9) and I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try tem as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them; I will say, It is my people ; and they will say “The Lord is my God”
ashestoashes
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:51pm@KNIGHTFLYER That is odd that you don’t trust the Jews…that is where Protestand religions get their Judeo Christianity..And you would compare Jews to Islam? The Canaanites of the Bible..the race of people that God rejected Essau for and loved Jacob because of his obedience. Essau was marrying into these people..When God gave Abraham all the land as far as he could see…the Canaanties (Islamic) people kept sneaking into their camps and murdering them and so God commanded King Saul to kill every man ,woman , and child and all of their animal…Saul didn’t do as he was told and to this day the Jew still suffer the consequences..The Jews have contributed much to our society…and they have never sought to convert us. Islams goal is to take over the world via their population explosion and their goal is to promote Sharia Law in a world wide caliphate and will kill all who will not convert.. We are in the same boat as the Jews but some are too ignorant to know this.. here’s link to the Jewishness of America. They are still the heart of God. and the whole Bible has them written into his love story for Him and them. Romans..we were grafted in as to provoke his beloved to jealousy…we should not be arrogant..lest we should be cut off..
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WSGAC
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:20pm@OkieMuskogee – Did you go to the Muskogee School for the Allegorical Interpretation of The Bible?
Pretty nutty stuff you’re bloviating on there!
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:23pm@BO Must Go
If Jesus did not become the only path to salvation then how are you saved Bo Must Go being you are a gentile?
It is amazing so many deny Jesus’s own words for their own agenda….Amazing….Believe as you wish….
If Jesus called the Pharisees of Satan several times and I follow the writings of the Pharisees and rejected Jesus, I’d be of the Pharisees, of Satan….
Believe as you wish but reality says you are siding with those who reject Jesus. If that’s where you stand, ok….
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:27pm@WS GAC
Instead of insulting why do you not just hold a civil conversation?
Please explain what you believe to be wrong.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:29pmKnight
History goes beyond your morning breakfast, Pick up a book
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:33pm@WSGAC There are many churches which believe in “replacement theology” I just had and am still having a bout with a former mercenary who became a Jehovah”s Witness..He came to me in a deceiving spirit because he didn‘t tell me that he was Jehovah’s Witness and I felt like my brain was so tweaked that I had a major headache and didn’t want to talk to anyone..I am still battling him. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe in “replacement theology” THey go by the New World Translation (NWT) . In BIble seminaries..it is required that the students have at least 2 semesters in Koine Greek..the man Frederick Frankz who translated the NWT had only 2 hrs in Koine Greek..His nephew Raymond Franz left the witnesses just a short time later and wrote a book entitled “ A Crisis of Conscience”. The Jehovah‘s believe that Jesus was just God’s first creation..the arc angel Michael. That directly refutes Revelations where Jesus and Michael come down from heaven.. they do not believe that Jesus is God’s only begotten Son nor in the trinity and have change key points in the Bible to coincide with their beliefs…Others who believe in replacement theology are Seven Day Adventists and the Methodist CHurch as the main church sides with Palestinians against Israel
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ashestoashes
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:55pm@WSGAC Correction…I stated that in seminaries…2 semesters are needed in Koine greek…I meant to say that 4 semesters are needed.. Fredrick Frankz the Jehovah Witness who translated the NWT had only 2 hrs..
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:59pm@Ashes
Wow….How are you saved if Jesus Christ is not the only path to salvation?
Please provide the verse for this:
“That directly refutes Revelations where Jesus and Michael come down from heaven”
Please define replacement theology….
Do you practice Judiasm?
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:45pm@OKIE…when we read and believe the first 5 books of the Old Testament…the Hebrew”s Torah..we are practicing Judaism I stand corrected..that verse is in 1 Thessolonians 4:16 about Jesus and with the voice of the archangel Michael..see http://www.kingmessiahproject.com/jw_michael_archangel.html Okie..did you know that God made covenant with his people the Abraham and ratified it by having Abraham bringing certain animals in for sacrifice,, The ritual was that each would walk through the midst of the blood ( a blood covenant) and then it would be ratified..but God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Abraham and he was in great fear because of the presence of the Lord..God moved in the midst of the blood therefore ratifying His covenant with them that is unconditional.. he will never ever break it..He promised a remnant woud be saved…that one third..He made it,,he planned it..he will execute it In His own timing it will be. This is what it’s all about..One cannot come to the Lord until and unless He calls them…and He will call one third of them. He said it…I believe it…
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:16pm@Ashes
I ask you again, do you practice today’s current belief of Judaism?
I ask you again, how are you saved if Jesus Christ is not the only path to salvation?
I ask you again, please define replacement theology as you know it.
Please show me in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the word Michael.
If Jesus comes to Earth as you said why does the verse after 1 Thessalonians 4:16 say this:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV)
You do realize Abram was not Jewish, right?
Do you not believe Paul in Galatians when he says if you believe in Jesus Christ you are of the seed of Abraham and if you reject Jesus you are not of his seed?
And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. (Galatians 3:29 KJV)
Do you not believe in Jesus’s words above in John that if any one is of Abraham seed they would believe as Abraham?
They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham. (John 8:39 KJV)
It seems you want to replace Jesus’s words with your own theory….You are wrong on many levels.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:11pm@OKIE Replacement theology is thinking that we Gentiles have replaced the nation and people of Israel. We have not…as it states and even in the scripture you quoted..they were blinded in part…untile the full number of us Gentiles have come into fullness..He said that he only allowed us..the wild olive branches to be grafted in..but to not be arrogant because it would be much easier to graft in the true brances who were cut out..back in..because they are of the True vine.. and that we should not be arrogant in this.. and so I am not..He has a plan…they won’t come in until He calls them in…like He said..one third..
Report Post »As for Michael…it is not explicit but implicit..
With the voice of the archangel – The word archangel occurs nowhere else in the New Testament, except in Jde 1:9, where it is applied to Michael. It properly means a chief angel; one who is first, or who is over others – ἄρχων archōn. The word is not found in the Septuagint, and the only archangel, therefore, which is named in the Scriptures, is Michael; Jde 1:9 I know that the only way to salvation is through belief in Jesus/Yeshua…but Okie.. Jesus is called the Living Word…the Law..and that is what the first 5 books (the Torah) is…and so they do know Him Okie..they just do not recognize Him.. God/Yeshua is the author and finisher..He has written it Okie..He will see it through..we have only His Word and I believe Him.
ashestoashes
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:57pm@OKIE I didn’t say that Jesus comes to earth but rather descends.For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. As for the Trinity..
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This is not to suggest, of course, that the Bible presents three different gods (cf. Deut. 6:4). Rather, God is three Persons in one essence; the Divine essence subsists wholly and indivisibly, simultaneously and eternally, in the three members of the one Godhead—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Scriptures are clear that these three Persons together are one and only one God (Deut. 6:4). John 10:30 and 33 explain that the Father and the Son are one. First Corinthians 3:16 shows that the Father and the Spirit are one. Romans 8:9 makes clear that the Son and the Spirit are one. And John 14:16, 18, and 23 demonstrate that the Father, Son, and Spirit are one.Yet, in exhibiting the unity between the members of the Trinity, the Word of God in no way denies the simultaneous existence and distinctiveness of each of the three Persons of the Godhead.In other words, the Bible makes it clear that God is one G
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:05pm@Ashes
I’ll be straight honest, you are wrong and very ignorant and blinded by your own desire to prove something that isn’t there.
What does blind “in part” mean? What does this mean from Romans?
5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
What is the Church in your belief if not part of Israel which is the name of Jacob given for perfect repentance? Is the Church not the bride of Christ? Is that not Israel?
Are you saying Jesus and Paul were both wrong?
What does Michael mean in Hebrew and who is head over the angels?
Ashes, you know not what you speak about….
Michael=one who is like God
Angel= Messenger
Arch=Head
Jesus is over the angels as he he directs them on His coming. Michael is Jesus. Not all Jews were monotheistic…Thus 3 bear record in Heaven, not one. Thus Jesus knew Abraham.
NO, no one is trying to replace “Israel”, Jesus simply opened the covenant to all who believe in Him. If that were not true you a Gentile would not be saved. You are saying Jesus and Paul are wrong, thus you cannot answer that question. Jesus wouldn‘t tell those Jews who didn’t believe in John 8 they were of their father Satan if they just didn’t know Him but are saved anyway. That is WRONG.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:16pmBlind in part
Blind: ignorant, disobedient, not knowing truth
In part: partial, not the full group, some
It doesn’t say at the end all of a sudden this blindness goes away. If it does quote it. That is something some one planted in your head and is a lie.
Paul says even during HIS time his descendants were blind in part, or some were disobedient and following the Pharisees. By grace and election a small group, himself included, were not blinded….
Again, if you understand Daniel 9:25-27 you’d have no problem with this. Apparently you don’t get it. Maybe you are blind as well.
Please re-look your Zechariah “understanding” as you skip around and leave much out that is needed for context..
As for trinity, I believe in the Godhead. Verse after verse after verse can show the truth on the Godhead. Believe as you wish. If you cannot understand that only those who believe in Christ will be saved and that blindness does not mean needs to see with eyes than I cannot trust your judgement on anything else. You continually revert back to the fulfill the flesh.
You are led astray Ashes and not holding truth. We have nothing further to discuss. Take care.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:53pmOkie…as you wish..I did not say fulfillment of flesh..I said that blindness would happen to them in part…because they have a part of the truth..they know God..they just did not recognize him in the flesh..until the fullness of the Gentiles come in…that meaning until all of us wild olive branches that are going to be believers..believe…then Jesus will gather the nations to go against her and then each Israelite will realize that they have pierced their own God…The ones who are already believers know this …but this refers to a future time..I did not say all would be saved,…just one third. If you believe in the God Head then you believe in the Trinity also.. see..you argue for the sake of arguing…so there is no reason for further discussion. take care Okie…be safe
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:58pm@OKIE One more thing..you wrote
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Angel= Messenger
Arch=Head
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MIchael= “Who is like God” it’s a question Okie
Angel= Messenger
Arch= Head
Jesus has power over Satan…Michael does not as evidenced when Jesus commanded Satan to get behind Him.. Michael had no power over Satan except to say “the Lord rebuke you” when arguing over the body of Moses..
I apologise for arguing with you..I suppose that is wrong..Good luck Okie
So Okie..he is a head angel…it doesn’t say that he is Jesus
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 12:31amAshes
Arguing for your sake. Truth is showing holes in your argument in search of it.
How does this 1/3 make it thru the brightness of His coming if they must wait until His coming to know Him? Your story doesn’t add up when thought thru.
That’s where you go wrong Ashes. That part, portion of group, that’s blinded always stay with us, they were with Paul and they will be here until the end, they are the ones practicing Judaism. Those are who we believers are to preach to, not encourage and make excuse for non belief.
The idea you worship the same God as someone who rejects Jesus goes both ways with Muslim and Jew. Both reject Him and both think he’s just a prophet, and argue over a direct inheritance thru the flesh.
Believers in Christ believe in faith, not flesh, and thru this faith are adopted. Paul is arguing how one is saved, whether Gentile or Jew, into Christ’s tree. As that tree grows, natural branches continually get whacked off for disbelief, and wild branches put in for belief. Happens that way all the way until Christ’s coming we all instantly transform, no delay to suddenly believe. This way all the seed of Abraham is blessed, and that seed is thru belief since Jesus because the flesh brought Jesus.
You are arguing Paul was speaking of one specific time when in fact Paul himself says that part for the election sakes was with him as it was with Esias and David and will be with all generations.
Think your argument thru.
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Posted on November 27, 2011 at 12:58am@Ashes
Before you dismiss Michael=Jesus
Michael the Archangel is a messenger of God who is like unto God Himself.
Genesis 32:30, “And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”
Genesis 48:15-16, “And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day, The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.”
Before you rebuke the “rebuke of Michael”:
And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire? (Zechariah 3:2 KJV)
Michael had to come rebuke Satan because no one else could do it. Satan is sin.
Only twice is rebuked used in the whole Bible.
Michael is told as “just” an angel but truth is just the opposite. Michael is Jesus who is a messenger of God who is like God because He is over all Angels and Saints.
Again, think your argument thru…
Have a great night….
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:04pmJeru Salem preceeded both the Moslems and the current Jewish state. The kingdoms of David and the various reincarnations built on an existing city. The only sad thing is the Israelis were willing, and currently have, a coexisting policy with Moslems. Moslems are citizens of Israel and even have members in the knesset. It is part and parcel of the religion of peace to subjugate or murder the Jews and Christians. It is unfortunate Islam cant accept the existence of other religions or even the tolerance of other religions. Its even worse our antichrist atheist government grovels at the demands of Islam to suppress other religions and deny our soldiers their guaranteed civil right of freedom to practice religion so they can sacrifice our troops to “defend” the moslem tyrant states. Send some Bibles or Stars of david to your military friends in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not to mention alcohol, spam, bacon, or ham for Christmas.
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Eliasim
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:03pmI hope the Nation Israel has their “Come to Jesus” moment before it’s too late.
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:08pmOr should I say “Come to Jacob” moment?
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:27pmThey do find him….Zech 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Report Post »REV 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:32pmRomans 11:26,27 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
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Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:48am@Bo Must Go
First-Jesus Christ came out of Zion as the deliver and he turned ungodliness from Jacob for Jesus was the Covenant that took sin away by belief in Him. Paul referenced an old scripture that had come to pass, Jesus Christ.
“So all Israel shall be saved”…How can ALL Israel be saved if only a remnant of “Jews” are saved? Doesn’t add up in your interpretation.
If I deny Jesus Christ as Savior will I be saved? I‘m sure you’d say no if I’m a gentile. If I deny Jesus Christ as savior will I be saved if I’m a Jew?
The only way to worship God of Abraham is thru Jesus Christ. Does not matter who your descendants are….
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 10:57pm.
Report Post »One of these days ya’ll are gonna piss them off, for the last time……
zoro51
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 10:53pmSCREW these MURDERING MUSLUMS.. they are in a CULT of hate n death they care NOT but that they KILL for thier FALSE GOD FALSE PROFIT.. ISREAL IS FOR EVER ALL of the land was given to ABRAHAM not ISMEAL
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:10pmSpoken like a true zionist.Very little truth,but such a fantastic delivery.
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:17pmknightflyer: Are you seriously criticizing someone else’s verbal delivery? Perhaps you should read your incoherent posts.
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:38pmIsrael will stand forever. You fight against her,you fight against the Almighty, You will find yourself on the wrong side of history and eternity.Jeremiah 50:19,20 And I will bring Israel again to his habitation, and he shall feed on Carmel and Bashan, and his soul shall be satisfied upon mount Ephraim and Gilead.In those days, and in that time, saith the Lord, the iniquity of Israel shall be sought for, and there shall be none; and the sins of Judah, and they shall not be found: for I will pardon them whom I reserve.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:12pm@Bo Must Go
You left a verse that is very important….
Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will punish the king of Babylon and his land, as I have punished the king of Assyria. (Jeremiah 50:18 KJV)
God brought the Jews out of captivity from the Babylonians and they rebuilt the temple, Jesus came, and the Temple fell and has been over ran with Gentiles since…. So your quoted verses are way out of context…..
Report Post »KEL
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 10:52pmThey are snakes with lying tongues, may the world see the hypocrisy. God will defend Israel, the land given to the Jewish people.
Report Post »woodrowsux
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 10:50pmIn the history of the jewish people, we must finally learn that the best defense against anti- semitism is OFFENSE, in this case the expansion of Israel into the sinai desert and east to the Jordanian border. Retake Gaza, judea and Samraia. repatriate the so called “palestinians” with their muslim brothers in Egypt, Syria, Libya or anywhere else in the 118 million square miles of islamic land. Israel belong to us Jews. Not filthy moozloms who follow an ideology of hate, jealousy and resntment aka-LOSERS just like OWS
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 10:45pmJews stay strong in spirit and strength. May HaShem guide us to salvation.
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 10:38pmJerusalem isn’t even islamofascists “UN” holiest of sites. Those idiots should be marching on Jordan, that’s their homeland, not Israel. Or perhaps they should be pushing the Egyptians and Saudi’s for territory there. NOTHING in Israel belongs to those mentally deprived goat turds.
Israel should just wash the Gaza streets with pig oil, and while they’re at it, dump a few buckets via chopper on top of that blight on the Jerusalem skyline, the dome of the philosophers stone.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 10:36pmThe Muslims are defiling the Temple Mount.
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Posted on November 25, 2011 at 10:31pmMuslim should be worshiping Jesws… if Jerusalem is Holy Ground to them!
Report Post »Knightflyer2011
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:11pmPure horse hockey my freind.Spoken in broken English like a true zionista
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:51pmNot just Muslims, the World! Zech 8: 22,23 Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the Lord. Thus saith the Lord of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
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