German Intelligence to Spy on…’Islamophobes?’
- Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:35pm by
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Officials in Germany will meet tomorrow to decide whether right wing groups who are vocally critical of Islam– so-called “Islamophobes”– will be placed under domestic intelligence agency scrutiny alongside other extremists.
The German daily newspaper Der Spiegel reported today that “Islamophobes” could be placed under surveillance by the BfV, the German equivalent of Britain’s MI-5 or, less precisely, our FBI.
The meeting to decide this designation will be held between “the president of the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), Heinz Fromm, and the agency’s leaders in the 16 German states.”
The German states of Bavaria and Hamburg have already started to view “Islamophobes” and other “right-wing populists” as extremists who pose a threat to order and security. Hamburg officials have declared they monitor a German internet web forum with the less-than-threatening name “Politically Incorrect,” though they say the site is not technically under watch by spies.
Why are German authorities looking at the site then?
An unnamed German official told Der Spiegel it was “undemocratic” and meant to “incite young people.”
Der Spiegel summarized the question facing the intelligence agencies as whether:
“The hatred of Muslims is enough to endanger freedom of religion and international understanding — or whether it is a radical but legitimate expression of opinion by individual authors within the limits of the constitution.”
The German government already criminalizes political parties deemed offensive or threatening to public order. Last week, Germany outlawed what had been its largest Neo-Nazi party. The country also has stringent anti-hate speech laws on the books, which can call for serious criminal penalties.
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Comments (192)
majorsco
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:34pmIsn’t this similar to what Germany did to the Jews prior to starting the death camps? Sounds like it!
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:11pmThe hatred of Muslims is enough to endanger freedom of religion and international understanding”
Looks like the islamists are winning this round…
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:38pmThe headline is worded so you’ll think that. Gooood job.
Report Post »Suzanne
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:44pmBut the thing is…it‘s not necessarily the ’hatred of Muslims’…but rather hatred of the ideology of death and subjugation masquerading as a legitimate ‘religion’, that thinks it can force ‘respect’ by virtue of the fact that it merely exists and they ‘claim’ it as ‘the only true religion’. Muslims are the first victims of this vile ‘religion’…and they don‘t ’respect’ the lives and human rights of each-other (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-15074216)…or anyone else…They are the ones consumed with irrational hatred…they live for the ‘peace’ that can only come from the death of others. Insane!
Report Post »ACLUHater
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:22pmWe don’t hate Muslims. We hate groups who terrorize people because of their religious beliefs…
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:39pmComing soon to a U.S. neighborhood near you.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:43pmI learned ALL I NEED TO KNOW about islam and Muslims ON 9-11.
Report Post »The everyday muslim DID NOT CONDEMN the ACT TERRORISM…Therefore I DON’T TRUST ANY OF THEM!!!
decendentof56
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:00pmNo, Welcome black……. The Germans are stupid!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:02pmMuslims have brought this on themselves. If they are going to go around the world threatening entire religions by killing innocent people, thgen the hatred that is brewing is understandable. I’m sure that all Muslims are bad, but if they don’t stand up soon and denounce what the dirt-bags are doing, I’m afraid they too will be the villains.
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Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:17pmThey just bought Greece, so maybe they are getting rent to help make payments!
Report Post »Cat
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:06pm…
OT
Heads up folks …
North Caroline Governor, Democrat Beverly Perdue, suggested the postponement of all state and federal elections for two years.
Report Post »j3150
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:16pmIt is so sad. When the death of a nation comes at its own hand. People of the quote religion of peace have accounted for how many dead?? They tell you they want to kill you and you do what? Give them the gun and the bullets. Hitler, you name the thug only wished to have idiots like we have today.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:20pmNo-they want to prevent death camps.The anti-semitism of the 21stc is anti arab/muslim. And they have experience of where anti-semitism unchecked leads.
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:45pmAs Yogi Berra once said “It’s deja vu all over again”!!! Pay no attention to the Islamification of your country.
Report Post »WeeeDontNeedNoSteeenkinBadges
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:56pmSing! Sing for the Fatherland!
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, …
(Oh, excuse me, English-speaking dogs.)
Germany, Germany above everything,
Report Post »Above everything in the world,
When, for protection and defence, it always
takes a brotherly stand together.
From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt,
Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world!
Welcome Black Carter
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 11:45pm“word on the street” is that this website is monitored, and names are being taken. Say what you want, it’s a free country, but I‘m just sayin’.
Good. They will need a list of freaks like you and rose when the White House changes hands in 2012. Liberals tend to get violent when they lose.
Report Post »HiredMind Blog
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 12:13amYep, Germans embracing a group that hates Jews… this will end well.
Report Post »touch
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 12:59amProtect all you want, the enemy is already within and by the time you pull your HEADS OUT, it will be too late!
Report Post »Marci
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 1:41amWhat a crock of crap. They are bowing down to Islam and handing their own silly stupid heads to them on a platter. Threatens freedom of religion? B.S. They already lost freedom of speech, this is just another Sharia conquest and Islam succeeding in not only moving forward but doing so by the method they have stated they always would. By using a country’s existing laws to claim special protection and take over bit by bit.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 3:37amIslam was instrumental in Hitlers final solution.
http://tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp4yHd0tCRQ
American Mosques are creating hate
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/575869/201106201904/US-Mosques-Terror-Mills-.aspx
Islam is a political ideology first a barbaric religion second.
Report Post »http://www.politicalislam.com/principles/pages/five-principles/
Steve
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 3:47amHey JZS. Tell your cousin to look for my posts.
All my posts are backed by historical evidence or confirmed by those who say they are Muslims and wish to convert, enslave or slaughter kafirs.
On the other hand there hasn’t been a single post you have done which intelligently counters our positions Your simply a left wing hack who like rose-ellen either is a Muslim or a useful idiot for them spewing opinions based on no facts or historical evidence. .
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 3:52amrose-ellen
Report Post »You should know all about that. Islam was instrumental in the final solution with Hitler. Slaughtering millions of Jews.
Your such a joke.
Detroit paperboy
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 4:00amThey will need to spy on the entire non mulim world, cuz
Report Post »nobody likes muslims at the moment… Too bad
old white guy
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 7:57amthe germans better get their sh-t together or they will be the ones being persecuted. any german who allows anyone from their government to tell them what the can say about islam does not want to be free. what is happening with the world. islam is more dangerous than communism, nazism and all other isms combined. why are people blind to this???
Report Post »gwssacredcause
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 9:26amThe Muslims will continue to win, not just in Germany but throughout the world because they are united and we have many forces dividing us. Example; I tried to get people in my community together to show the David Barton series on “American Heritage”, in a community of over 3600 people, five people made the effort. I issued flyers (over 3000) had it announced in the paper, radio and on the street. It seems few people are interested in the religious heritage of freedoms of this nation which makes us a prime target of Islam.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:34pmI am sure the US government does this to the Tea Party already.Europe is a write off.Let us Save ourselves!
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:56pmwe should all be applauding and following their lead..
Report Post »wtd
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:03pmGermany’s Muslim demographic illustrates why . . .see this video: http://tinyurl.com/423l8t4
Report Post »In Berlin-Kreuzberg, the #of foreigners in 2008 was over 60%
In Berlin-Neukolln near 70%, in Hamburg-Wilhelmsburg it’s more than 70%, in Hamburg-Billbrook 90%+ pupils are foreigner. In 2010, 40% of citizens in Duisburg-Hochfeld are foreigners – if we include those w/immigration background it rises to more than 50%. In 2015, the entire Rurh area migrants will be the adult majority.
In 2009, district Frankfurter Berg was 70% foreigners. Schools in the Frankfurt district Gallus, 80% were foreigners.
The Spessart district in Dietzenbach Offenbach was 98% foreigner in 2010. This sample would be made more freely
Walkabout
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:23pm@ WTD
Where is the Muslim or leftist PubliusPencilmen to comment on this.
Funny thing is is that Islam has many schools of thought within the Sunni community. A world without Christianity or Judaism but only Islam is not necessarily a peaceful world. More likely it is a violent world doomed to die.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:24pm@ wtd
And the demographer pointing out the facts was labeled a racist. The police are watching him
Demographic projections are state secrets. Ya know
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:32pmIts not the place for muslims to apologize fo, 9-11. that was a crime committed for political reasons. And america was not innocently minding its business but was unjustly meddling with muslim lands propping up murderous dictators for our interests[and unjustly supporting israeli illigal activity and annexaction of land]. We are every bit as murdurous as we accuse them of being. Always have been. The”terrorists’ are independence fighters.Osama died belieing in his heart of hearts that he did not start this. We did and we murdered people with our policies.This was blowback to make us aware that the day when we could act with impunity is over. Religion was not the issue-policies against muslim people was. Muslims have nothing to say to appease your because you refuse to look at the reasons which brough you blowback.Your narrative[they hate us cause we're not muslims] about them is not their narrative. And you don’t own them. They are free to remain silent or even preach whatever narrative of 9-11 they choose[that your unjust policies caused blowback so that you can’t complacently act against their interests with impunity in the21stc. -the c of people rising up for theeir interests against dictators and even the greedy hypercapiralist tyranical superpowers behind them It can cost you too to meddle with them…
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:32pmAmazing, the GERMANS are now worried about freedom of religion? Or does latent memory remind them of when they were allied with the Arab-Muslims against the West and the Jews during WW II. Watch for new modifies crosses to start appearing on the German military and police uniforms again.
Report Post »ONE PIECE
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:40pmDAME YOU’RE GOOD!! I hope that you might be wrong, cause if you are right, GOD HELP US!!!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:53pmAgainst the West? What the heck are you talking about?!? German philosophy, science and literature for much of the 19th century into the 20th were considered the pinnacles of Western thought. Fascism was very much a modern Western ideology, and Nazism had for its basis Western eugenics and racial pseudoscience.
Sorry, but if you want to understand Western culture, you have to take the bad with the good.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:02pmSpend 90% of your time & resources against “hate” speech
Spend 10% of your time & resources against terrorists.
Surely a liberal response
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:06pm13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar (1st Croatian)
Bosnian Muslims in the Waffen SS
Haj Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem helped recruit Muslims for the Waffen-SS
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:13pmWow! I can see how these completely made up statistics are enraging! Clearly fantasyland has gone all to heck!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:13pmAnd how many muslims and hindus fought for the British?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:33pmPubliusPencilman
Report Post »The people from India (Muslim & Hindu) were quite happy to be fighting for the Empire. NOT!
Certain warrior castes appreciated British military service but not most.
India could quite happily sat out WWII.
Try Again.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:30pmSorry. Broad generalizations don’t count as persuasive evidence. You try again.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:20pmThe Germans don’t have the freedom of speech
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:28pmand while we all get worked up about this or that…The REAL STORY continues behind the curtains. Usefull idiots are just that…IDIOTS!
Report Post »As far as World Issues? Obama isn’t even a soldier-he isn‘t even a ’made man’. He just doesn’t know it yet! lol lol
Rational Man
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:25pmHas the whole world fallen under some kind of Muslim spell or what??
The whole world is just giving in to the insane mass murderers!!
Why does everyone just cave to the ones who promise to kill them??
I can’t get my mind wrapped around the insanity of it all.
How blind can people get?
So come get me!!….I have a functioning brain………………..
Report Post »Deanna in Missouri
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:35pmI am with you on this. It is almost supernatural. I believe normally they would be condemned across the world but this is insane. Europe is losing its identity to these murderers and governments across the globe are going after the wrong people. Its like they are scared or something. Its completely weird and it scares me. We cannot let them get a foothold here any longer. If we have too then we may have to drag our government out by hand and replace them. I want all muslims out of this country except for the ones who put America first and do not want Sharia. The scary thing is you don’t know for sure if there are any. Evil/Supernatural.
Report Post »llotus
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:40pmRational Man………just look in our own country of the large number of people that are defending the radical muslims. They have easy access to this country. Lotus.
Report Post »since1791
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:21pm“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak, not to act is to act.” Dietrich Bonhoeffer ~ Not all Germans have forgotten what Hitler stood for. This video was recorded in Frankfurt, Germany. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrMOEyE-Fkk
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:30pmwell they better wake up, they are heading down that road a little more everyday, they really need to study history , wow, they have changed the history books over there and they are changing them here, no wonder we are in trouble, when they erase the past, the future is blinded to how bright the communist light can get.
Report Post »Erwin
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 5:33pmShort description of reality in Germany: A mere 20-30% of green-left supporters dominate the public discourse. Almost 100% of the media are among them. Violent, criminal youngsters affiliated with the socialists and trade union rule the street and attack anybody who dares to speak out the truth in public. All parties in parliament, including the nominal “conservatives”, are left parties. The EU forces not only bureaucracy and suicidal financial policies upon us, but also political correctness and hate speech legislation. The churches welcome and actively support the islamization and give up anything what they stood for.
The ordinary people, 50-60% of the population, are helpless and remain silent. They dislike all that is going on or try not to see it. Hitler and holocaust play no role whatsoever, no matter what some people in the US or Israel think or hope. There is a few thousand idiots indulging in Nazi folklore, but they are absolutely meaningless. The danger lies in the sharp contrast of the public and publicized opinion.The silent, largely unrepresented majority can and will be manipulated into a reaction to an establishment in suicide mode, because they are the ones paying for all what is going wrong.
Report Post »motherof18
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:20pmWouldn’t it be a crying shame if Muslims grind Germany into dust.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:56pm… be a cryin shame not only Germany nut,
France
England
Italy
Belgium
Denmark
Norway (Baaa)
Sweden
Finland Etc, Etc, Etc …
And then there is America. Immigration of muslims to America from muslim countries must be stopped, and those responsible for allowing it to take place must be held accountable!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:52pmTHAT’S THEIR PLAN… take over the whole world. Then what? Satan, their leader, is the world’s biggest Disappointer… These people think their lives will be better ruled by him? It only lasts for a few years, but we’re in it for sure. TURN TO GOD. Don’t worry about the inevitable…it’s only 3.5 years if that and then those murdering Islam freaks will have killed millions of their own and us, but they fall into hell never to get out. This is not a phase. This is not “wake up down the road and we’ll all be back – better than ever!!” This is it, kids. GOD is the answer…get to know HIM and HIS SON JESUS and then, don’t worry…there is nothing more you can do except hope that we have the smarts to utilize our freedom this one last time in this election with PALIN/RUBIO or PALIN/CAIN or PALIN/WEST. This is our only chance. IF that fails… just ride it out ….These Hillary Clinton type of Progressive (Bush and McCain too) jerks think THEY have the answer… they are about as wrong as it gets. REAGAN said it: WE are the last hope for freedom. Once that is gone it would take many generations to get it back and our kids/grandkids would never know it because all that information will be wiped clean. IT’S this election or never as far as we are concerned.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:14pm“The German government already criminalizes political parties deemed offensive or threatening to public order. Last week, Germany outlawed what had been its largest Neo-Nazi party. The country also has stringent anti-hate speech laws on the books, which can call for serious criminal penalties.”
So then they should ban Islam for the threat to public order, to society and civilization, and the Koran for the hate speech it contains. Problem solved.
Report Post »Erwin
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 5:46pmBTW, Germany did NOT outlaw any “Neo-Nazi party”. They tried so some 20 years ago and failed in supreme court and since then every second week someone is calling for another push.
The “stringent anti-hate speech laws” have been forced by the EU on all member states and the relevant code was adapted this year. In practice, however, the new laws are not applied in Germany half as strictly as in other European countries. Austria is surely the worst in this respect. Britain is not far behind. Scandinavian countries follow.
Show trials for criticizing islam have been held in Austria, Netherlands, France, Denmark, Sweden, and Finland, but not in Germany so far.
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:13pmWill they have a police force that spies on muslims who hate anything not muslim including other Germans, German’s secular government and will they spy on muslims who refuse to integrate into German society?
Report Post »MartyTr
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:32pmhttp://smoothstoneblog.com/tag/muslim-crimes-against-humanity –“islams goal is world dominance by force if necessary” On page 49 powerpoint of the Ft. Hood mass murderer. We use taxpayer’s money to train and arm terrorists, then turn them lose on military bases with unarmed soldiers. I read that Clinton did that. Our military should have their weapons with them at all time if they are on a base or in uniform. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com http://www.jihadwatch.org http://www.atlasshrugs.com Obama is rallying his criminal base and they will be going after Christians, Tea Partiers, Conservatives, Constitutionalists, etc. God is on our side.
Report Post »Erwin
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 5:50pmThe German police has been very successfully preventing islamic terrorism to this date. The reported spying, if it comes at all, would be done by something like the NSA, not the police. In contrast to media and politicians, these guys have been very reasonable in allocating their resources to where the true dangers lie.
Report Post »rpp
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:11pmGermany has had trouble, and continue to have troubles, with very nasty hate groups. I mean we are talking about the children and grandchildren of actual Nazi party members. There is also a bit of nostalgia when Germany was arguably militarily the strongest nation on Earth. They have been struggling with hate groups for a long time and they will not go away.
That said, I think they are choosing the wrong target. Personally, I think it is wrong to hate people based on their beliefs. However, I can FEAR the TEACHINGS of a group or religion that advocates murder of those are are not like them.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:56pmThey are not choosing one target over the other. “Islamaphobes” are just one of many groups German Intelligence investigates, so I really don’t see your objection.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:09pmsoon to happen here, o yeah, it is happening here, and soon to get worse, but only for conservatives and tea party people.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:30pmcommon
Report Post »We are truly getting closer to lugging the beets than I once thought.
commonsenseguy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:37pmi think you are right, but i will be dang if i care any liberals bag or even share my beets with any of them.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:37pmsorry, meant to say i will CARRY any of their bag.
Report Post »RIGHTHOOK
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:02pmCan you say GESTAPO? In the name of Islam no less!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:09pmAre Mulims Jewophobes or Christianophobes? No. They get to hate us openly and I decided long ago to return the sentiment.
Report Post »Joisey
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:07pmI‘m sure Big Sis can’t wait to copy this one.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:06pmOnly the government can define what an Islamophobe is.
Report Post »azjeff1963
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:07pmhere i am hitler come get me.
Report Post »christos
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:06pm……We know what the King James Bible says about Gomer i.e. Germany in end days——Nicey -Nicey——Nopa’, +JESUS+ is stirring them up……Hook in the Jaw +JESUS+ is going to pull Russia and Germany down to Israel along with 8 other countries Foot Note King James Bible,and +JESUS+ will appear on the Mount of Olives and defend Israel +HIMSELF+…….
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:04pmAnyone know the dynamics in a family with an alchoholic? There are varying forms of codependency. Those that enable the alchoholic will often “keep the peace” by stomping all over the one in the family who keeps speaking out about Dad’s drinking.
Report Post »Suzanne
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:26pmI agree….excellent observation. And the abuse is never confronted or stopped until something tragic happens.
Report Post »Ssenkrad
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:42pmWow, that’s actually a really apt comparison. And that’s what so scary, because this is no normal alcoholic, this is a mass murdering alcoholic who murders and drinks openly while the enablers bow at their feet and suck on their big toe to avoid being murdered.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:21pmI agree it is a good comparison & the MSM missed it.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:05pmWalkabout, the MSM is the enabling codependent.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:46pmNo muslim “terorists‘ ever killed any american or israeli simply because they’re not muslims. They are resisting occupation, dictators ,and invasions. (-11 was a result of the fist gulf war where over a million people died because of our sanctions. Our history there is the mid east is of propping up dictators and supporting the tyranical israelis. These terrorists are independence reisisters. The ft. hood shooter retaliated against the soldiers because he saw first hand that they were anti-muslim genocidists wanting to go to iraq to musder muslims. They told him .he sspoke out against the wars and they retaliated against him by ordering him to afghanistan. That’s when he retaliated against their retaliationof him. he was in the belly of the beast-as their shrink-he recognized they were all guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity and that they were getting away with mass murder and torture of iraqis. Some didn’t get away with it after all.
Report Post »IAMMADDOG
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 12:46pmSo Rose I take it that YOU YOURSELF have been a part of some of their attacks….I mean seeing as you have all the facts on who Muslims attack and for what reason. The fact that they have actually STATED that killing of infidels (non-believers) IS THEIR GOAL means absolutely nothing? What are they “just kidding”? You ARE a lost soul.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:58pmPolitical correctness is the downfall of any society. I’ve noticed Muslims are the most hypersensitive group around if you criticize them, but it’s okay for them to call for the beheading of anyone who questions them. You won’t see the Germans charge any Muslims for hate speech for calling for the beheading of anyone either.
Report Post »Kerri g
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:52pmIsn’t this just rich? Muslems talk about Jew as being pigs and monkey’s and tell all manner of lies about them and raise their children to hate a whole race of people. Even strap bombs on their own children to kill Jews and Americans and Christians.But say anything about Muslems or Islam and the ninnie bags start to cry like babies cause someone hurt their witty, bitty feelings. omg!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:09pmAre you really so dumb as to think that German intelligence only looks at one group at a time, and this week it’s the Islamophobes?
German intelligence vigorously investigate Islamic radicalism (I am very sure that strapping bombs to kids is still illegal in Germany), but given the recent mass killings in Norway, it makes perfect sense for them to investigate possible threats from right wing extremists. Does this logic really escape you, or are you just purposely spouting nonsense because you know that all the other lock-step Blazers will cheer you on? Are you that desperate for affirmation?
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:09pmC’mon, you know EVERYTHING offends muslims. It’s always their way or the highway. Remind you of a certain half-black politician? Zombie Apocalypse!
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:38pmThey’re resisting israeli tyrany against them. until you are occupied and tyranized you don’t know what you would do.People here commit murder -suicide every day against women and children too. For a lot less then tyranical opression like what the israeli zionists do to the arab palestinian. Though what they are doing is wrong-desparate people do desparate things. Always have .
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:51pmThanks, Anders Breivik. Thanks a lot for raising paranoia and security-obsession to heights as lunatic as yourself.
Report Post »dsind
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:04pmuh? shoot the messenger lloyd!
Report Post »think about it.
Captain Crunch
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:09pmAnders Breivik is just a symptom of the disease. BTW…he was no nut case. He knew exactly what he was doing by going after the children of the liberal labor party. Killing the children accomplised two things. First it put extreem fear in the hearts of those who are turning Norway (and Europe) over to the Islamists. Secondly it denies the Labor Party many brainwashed leaders in the future. Armies have done the samething all through history. His actions were nothing new. Before you condemn him for his actions you atliest owe it to yourself to read his manifesto so you understand his reasoning. Every story like this that comes out vindicates his understanding of the problem of political correctness. We all need to understand why Anders Breivik did what he did. His actions were wrong but his message was correct.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:47pmAnother European country scrambling for control of desperate people – too little too late, after DECADES of multiculturalism, unchecked immigration, giving up economic independence, implementing socialist policies etc etc etc
Gemany is drowning under the financial burdens of the likes of Greece and Italy… meanwhile not reproducing enough actual Germans to sustain beyond the next 40 years…
Bye-bye Europe!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:00pmSo, it doesn’t seem reasonable to you that after the mass killing in nearby Norway, other countries with a history of right-wing extremist activity might want to make sure that the same does not happen there? Please think more before posting.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:08pmLaw abiding citizens? You mean the vast majority of Muslims in American? Or do you just mean white Christians?
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:09pm@ PubliusPencilman
What seems unreasonable are the items I‘ve already listed which have eviscerated Germany’s future. Do you disagree? German leadership openly states this http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1991216,00.html
Sounds to me like some people are waking up too late to change what Liberal Socialism has done to their nation economically and politically.
Now it becomes the role of the “police state” to enforce the demise of their own nation. Ironically they voted for all of it.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:36pmTH30PH1LUS
Somehow in Italy, Germany & France the government takes care of so much & yet life seems hard & the birth rate falls.
Coincidence? The more socialism the lower the birth rate?
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 11:04pmThat norwegiian who hunted children down like rabbits-was not a nut. He was indoctrinated by the Fox and other genocidal anti-muslim media.Osama also had his reasons for murdering people-to bring us to the knowledge that there could be consequences to us for our unjust policies toward them. he was an independence fighter and died believing in his heart of hearts that he did not start this. Our policies did. religion had nothing to do with it except that he was a freedom fighter for arabs[ who are mostly but not exclusively muslims] who were victimized by the americans and their policies.That he supportd the arab awakening is proof.Your narrative about their irrational desire to kill and die all non muslims is self serving and enables you to start your story with 9-11. Typical hubris-like their lives under our unjust policies have no reality. Your reality starts with your dead. Osamas reality starts with the suffering and death of occupied tyranized palestinians,and muslims tortured and killed under american backed dictators for american interests[greedy cheap oil.military bases, cold war interests and israeli expansion].The killings now going on are due to our invasions and the israeli occupation. The people rising up are also being murdered by these dictators and america is right to help the libyans and should be helping the syrians. The US can turn a new leaf in the 21stc as the arab people are rising up finally.Hopefully islamaphobia is a passing blip on the 21stc.
Report Post »Erwin
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 6:06pmWell said, plus well-educated citizens are leaving the country in droves and disgust. Can you imagine the discrimination of inlanders in schools with 80-100% muslim kids (more than 20% would suffice for that matter)?
By definition, inlanders cannot be discriminated. Exploding crime rates are erased from criminal statistics, newspapers are not reporting about them at all or leave out who did the street robbery, stabbing, rape and gang rape that have become commonplace. Criminals are re-defined into being victims and hardly punished. The true victims have no lobby at all. At the same time, police forces are downsized. Everyone pointing out these things is criminalized.
Report Post »PApeacemaker
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:47pmSo we get rid of the Nazi‘s from Germany in the 40’s & now the new government acts just like them. I dont like this at all, people dont like muslims for a reason. They come into there country & live off there hard work from the welfare system which they abuse the crap out of, they build there mosques all over there country & use them as recruitment centers, they infiltrate there local governments & mess there laws up to favor there religion, they bring violence to there communities, & they try and change the Germans way of life to fit there 15th century backwards lifestyle. Geee I wonder why most Germans dont want them there. Its the same reason NO country wants them. They create problems if they dont want people hating them maybe they should stay in there own countries & stop killing people who dont believe there cult like so called religion. I just find it disturbing that the German government would support a invasive species rather then its own citizens. Makes me sick
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:52pmPA,
You accuse the German government of being Nazis for investigating right-wing extremist groups (enough irony there, but wait, there’s more!) and then you insist that people “don’t like Muslims for a reason.” I’m sure the Nazis said the same about the Jews, but apparently that incredibly obvious irony doesn’t bother you a bit.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:06pmSure they did, but there is a difference, they Nazi’s were a bunch of lying ****, that wanted to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth, and all the Christians were next on their list, they were against the sodomy laws in Germany. The Muslims are much like the Nazi and want to wipe out the Christians and Jews for different but equally evil reasons. Just as the world was right to wipe the Nazi from the face of the earth, it will eventually be necessary to wipe the Muslims from the face of the earth.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:07pmChill a little. How is it “Nazi” simply to track people with extremist views expressed in violent rhetoric? Do you suppose the German security forces don’t also track Muslim extremist groups? After what happened in Norway, this seems like a perfectly sensible precaution.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:11pm@Publius,
They aren’t “right wing extremist groups”. That is the name given to them by their enemies. Whoever calls himself an extremist? It is a term of demonization intended to deligitimze a group and justify their marginalization and persecution. A ubiquitous tactic among fascist governments, but not limited to them.
Being against an ideologby that preaches hatred against Jews and all kinds of “infidels” and which regularly oppresses women I would hardly call extremism. Shall we lable the Anti Defamation League a Naziphobic organization?
Report Post »Suzanne
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:23pmPeacemaker…You are absolutely right, that is exactly what they do. They are the New Nazis no matter what anyone says. Don’t be swayed by Alinsky tactics…the mere fact that Islam is non-critiqueable—and that spying of ‘islamophobes’ is even considered— is proof enough. When will Germany learn…remaining silent, appeasement and fear of reprisals will get the same fascist government that took years to overcome the stigma. Duplicity and PC marginalization of opposition is the tool and tactic of stealth jihad…Just what do they intend to do with ‘islamophobes’ anyway? Fine them, put them in jail, take their lives and livelihood away from them? What is really driving the ‘islamophobia’ phobia? ‘Islamophobes’ are not espousing world domination and threatening beheading of infidels…
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:31pmI have to agree with you. “The hatred of Muslims is enough to endanger freedom of religion and international understanding —”
Report Post »That kind of thinking is the problem. It is false & shows gross ignorance of Islam, wishful thinking. It’s the “religion” of Muslims that endangers everyone else’s religion/freedom & there will never be any int’l “understanding” b/c they only believe in Islam period for the world… teach taking over the world for Allah via violence if necessary – the only “religion” that teaches this kind of thing. The Jews, Christians, etc do not – that’s the difference, critics. Recheck history. The ones that don’t recognize the dangers of Islam are the fools & will lose if they appease them.
The answer is you don’t allow any into your nation to begin with but no one has what it takes to do that. The Muslims know that and take advantage until they have enough to take over….that‘s what they’re doing here. They’re taught to lie to further agenda. Only way to know is check the Koran. Those that claim “peaceful” have to bow to the “radicals” when jihad is called – no choice. It’s just a matter of time. Meanwhile, the nations who have accepted them are afraid that the anti-Muslim ppl will start chaos, murder, riots & try to avoid that but it’s no use. That’s probably why they try to “play down” the Muslim threat here. What to do? It’s a humongous problem & I understand about the Norway deal but doesn’t solve the problem. Pray
Quiata
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:35pmGreat…another “Publiuspencilman” rampage….he’s in rare form tonight. Multiple sightings. Marking his territory with zeal….yippee….
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:39pmPubliusPencilman
Report Post »Neo NAZIs are already outlawed & investigated. So why the new emphasis. I t has to be against people speaking out against Muslim domination. Speaking out not violence. there is a difference.
dsind
Posted on September 29, 2011 at 9:17pmswampy…
Report Post »gotta luv it
wtd
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:47pmGermany . . .quote: “…also has stringent anti-hate speech laws on the books, which can call for serious criminal penalties.”
Report Post »Not stringent enough to recognize the hate speech disguised as religion in the qur’an. Some Germans are more equal than others apparently . . .and that suits Islam to a T.
db321
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:47pmYou just let us know how this works out for you – when the same people you are protecting, turn on you and cut off your head.
Report Post »4XGrace
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:46pmIf being aware of Islam will do to non-believers and publishing what the media WILL NOT say about the Muslim hordes is being an Islamophobe then I guess I’ve got another label to add to my lapel. The Germans should wake up to Islam and their anti-Semitic bent and focus on the REAL problem. Maybe, just maybe they will save themselves from repeating recent WWII German history.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:09pmNo, the europe is doomed to repeat history they have been setting the groundwork for the next Hitler for decades, Obama is either that evil, or preparing the way for another to step forward and continue the enslavement of the world.
Report Post »TADTAD
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:38pmWait. I don’t get it. Or, something. There has to be a lot of Germans who still have a **** on for Jews, much like some Americans still sporting wood for non whites, so, Islam and its’ enormous ***** for Jews seems like a perfect fit for Germany. I cannot believe that somewhere in the heart of Germany, there isn’t a gleem in the eye for Muslims. No wonder the hate police are on it. I hate the way I think…..
Report Post »bluematrix90
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:46pmReally….Germany is going down the tubes people.
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