Giant Whale Graveyard Found in Chilean Desert
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SANTIAGO, Chile (The Blaze/AP) — More than 2 million years ago, scores of whales congregating off the Pacific Coast of South America mysteriously met their end. Today, they have emerged again atop a desert hill more than a kilometer (half a mile) from the surf, where researchers have begun to unearth one of the world’s best-preserved graveyards of prehistoric whales.
A paleontologist from the museum prepares a whale fossil at the site where many prehistoric whale fossils were discovered in the Atacama desert near Copiapo, Chile. (Photo: AP/Museo Paleontologico de Caldera)
But how did they get there? That’s the question paleontologists are trying to figure out.
Maybe they became disoriented and beached themselves. Maybe they were trapped in a lagoon by a landslide or a storm. Maybe they died there over a period of a few millennia. Somehow they ended up right next to one another, many just meters (yards) apart, entombed as the shallow sea floor was driven upward by geological forces and transformed into the driest place on the planet.
Chilean scientists together with researchers from the Smithsonian Institution are studying how these whales, many of the them the size of buses, wound up in the same corner of the Atacama Desert.
(Photo: AP/Museo Paleontologico de Caldera)
“That’s the top question,” said Mario Suarez, director of the Paleontological Museum in the nearby town of Caldera, about 700 kilometers (440 miles) north of Santiago, the Chilean capital.
Experts say other groups of prehistoric whales have been found together in Peru and Egypt, but the Chilean fossils stand out for their staggering number and beautifully preserved bones. More than 75 whales have been discovered so far — including more than 20 perfectly intact skeletons.
They provide a snapshot of sea life at the time, and even include what might have been a family group: two adult whales with a juvenile between them.
“I think they died more or less at the same time,” said Nicholas Pyenson, curator of fossil marine mammals at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History. Pyenson and Suarez are jointly leading the research.
As for why such a great number perished in the same place, Pyenson said: “There are many ways that whales could die, and we’re still testing all those different hypotheses.”
The scientists have yet to publish their findings about the fossil bed and the extensive remains, which began to emerge in June last year during a highway-widening project that is now on hold.
So far, the fossils have been found in a roadside strip the length of two football fields — about 240 meters (260 yards) long and 20 meters (yards) wide.
Pyenson said the spot was once a “lagoon-like environment” and that the whales probably died between 2 million and 7 million years ago.
(Photo: AP/Museo Paleontologico de Caldera)
Most of the fossils are baleen whales that measured about 8 meters (25 feet) long, Pyenson said.
The researchers also discovered a sperm whale skeleton and remains of a now-extinct dolphin that had two walrus-like tusks and previously had only turned up in Peru, he said.
“We’re very excited about that,” Pyenson said in a telephone interview. “It is a very bizarre animal.”
Other unusual creatures found elsewhere in the fossil-rich Atacama Desert include an extinct aquatic sloth and a seabird with a 5-meter (17-foot) wingspan, bigger than a condor’s.
Erich Fitzgerald, a vertebrate paleontologist at Museum Victoria in Melbourne, Australia, emailed that the latest find is very significant.
“The fossils are exceptionally well preserved and quite complete — a rare combination in paleontology and one that will likely shed light on many facets of the … ecology and evolution of these extinct species,” Fitzgerald said.
He said it’s possible “these fossilized remains may have accumulated over a relatively long period of time.”
Hans Thewissen, an expert on early whales, agreed. Another scenario, he said, is that the whales might have gathered in a lagoon and then an earthquake or storm could have closed off the outlet to the ocean.
“Subsequently the lagoon dries up and the whales die,” said Thewissen, a professor of anatomy at Northeast Ohio Medical University. He said the accumulation of so many complete skeletons is “a very unusual situation.”
“If this were a lagoon that dried up, you might see signs that ocean water evaporated,” such as crystallized salt and gypsum in the rock, said Thewissen, who is not involved in the research. “On the other hand, if a giant wave or storm flung the whales onto shore, it would also have pushed the ocean floor around, and you would see scour marks in the rocks.”
Dating fossils is complicated, experts said, and it will be very hard to distinguish dates precisely enough to determine whether the whales all died simultaneously.
The researchers have been told to finish their onsite studies so that fossils can be moved out of the path of the widened Pan American Highway, or Route 5, which is Chile’s main north-south road.
Many of the fossils have been transported in plaster coverings to the museum in Caldera. Researchers from Chile’s National Museum of Natural History are also studying the fossils.
Pyenson and his team are working quickly under tents to document the intact skeletons. With funding from the National Geographic Society, the Smithsonian team is using sophisticated photography and laser scanners to capture 3D images of the whales that can later be used to make life-sized models of them.
Suarez, the paleontologist, had long known about the whale bones just north of Caldera – they could be seen jutting out of the sandstone ridge alongside the highway at the spot known as Cerro Ballena, or Whale Hill. When the road work began last year, the construction company asked him to monitor the job to avoid destroying fossils.
“In the first week, about six or seven whales appeared,” Suarez said. “We realized that it was a truly extraordinary site.”
The Chilean government has declared the site a protected zone, and Pyenson said he hopes a museum will be built to showcase the intact skeletons where they lie, in the same way fossils are displayed at Dinosaur National Monument in Utah and Colorado.
Suarez thinks there are probably fossils of hundreds of whales waiting to be uncovered – enough to keep him working at this one spot for the rest of his life.
“We have a unique opportunity to develop a great scientific project and make a great contribution to science,” he said.
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shards of narsil
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:53pmhttp://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-flood.html why the argument for noah’s ark/worldwide flood is untenable when the research being done is conducted by people that are not trying to reinforce a particular interpretation of the bible as the sole worldview for virtually everything else in life.
Report Post »Laurahauptman
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:48pmWhy would a worldwide flood be responsible for mass deaths of aquatic animals?
Report Post »shards of narsil
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:47pmit isn’t considered because there is not any verifiable scientific evidence for a worldwide flood. and before anyone says it, citing information you get from answersingenesis or some other such source is not scientific.
Report Post »mdefu2
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 8:46amThere is actually a ton of evidence for a world wide flood. There are marine fossils found on mountains all over the world. There has also been a whale fossil found in a vertical position. Check out this site for many other examples. http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm
Report Post »You are probably saying to yourself saying that you do not need to look at this site. Or you are going to look at the information with the thought that it is all bogus, before you even read it. If that is the case, than how can you consider yourself a person of science when you will reject information before you fully research it. That sounds more like you are a Darwinian religion nut. Think about it.
4truth2all
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 1:14pmWhy are the SCEINTISTS of AIG not SCIENTIFIC. I will not call YOU a BONEhead. But…… that is a BONEheaded statement.
Report Post »First off bones do not last in the open air exposed to the elements.
Pontiac
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 8:58amThey’re not bones, they’re fossils.
Report Post »fred1369
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 6:48pmNoah’s flood? Did you catch the part where the fossils are 2 to 7 million years old? Man has not been around that long.
Report Post »UrbanFool
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:40pmWell, men aren’t whales.
Report Post »mdefu2
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 8:49amHow do you know this? Because scientists told you so? They also said in the 50′s that we were heading toward an ice age, and now they are saying we have out of control global warming. Which scientist are you trusting with your soul?
Report Post »nilo
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 6:09pmEver heard of the world wide flood of Noah’s day (Genesis 6) ? This flood throws these Darwinian archaeologists into a tizzy, yet it explains it all.
Report Post »texanpatriot
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 6:25pmMy thought exactly. So simple but then what would these “scientist” do all day?
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:39pmIm not really religous , but to me it all seems to perfect to have been an accident, right down to the incrdible tomatos in my salad…. Its just too perfect to not have all been planned, thats my 2 cents .
Report Post »Kathryn Stevens
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:14pmIn their day, it was a worldwide flood to them. They knew only a small part of the world. Some of the floods we’ve had since would be considered worldwide back in those times.
Report Post »theaveng
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:20pmThe realistic explanation is that Noah‘s Flood falls into the same category as Washington’s Cutting Down A Cherry Tree story. (Some authors’ imagination.)
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 12:04pmGuess what NILO. The earth has been around for a very long time. Did you know that where the Amazon rainforest is now, there used to be a giant lake? Seriously, and the thing is still draining causing the world’s largest river with more diverse species of fish than those on record in all the oceans of the world! A worldwide flood could answer why whale fossils were found in what is now a desert. BUT, the fact is that the earth cannot simply gain a whole heaping mass of water and then have it disappear. That is called “magic”. A more reasonable explanation is that this desert peak was once the floor of an ancient bay where many whales were killed by some natural phenomenon. Possibly predation, the overturning of the water realeasing tons of oxygen devoid gas, maybe even just a cold winter where the bay froze over so fast that they could not keep their breathing hole open or they did and just starved to death. Then that bit of the ocean floor after some great amount of time was thrust up into the main body of what is now the South American continent and formed the mountains running through the atacama desert.
That is much more believable than the appearance and disappearance of a magical mass of water triple that of the current mass of water on this planet over a period of 40 days and nights. Sorry, I believe there is a God, but I do not believe in magic.
TexasMommyK
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:09pmAt one time scientist said pangia was all the conents pushed together and a sudden shift in the plates moved them apart. I think maybe God informed Noah he its gonna happen. Think of it a sudden shift of plates like that with the contents moving like that would make some waves washing over the contents can that maybe explain lots of things together? I mean really it add up and fits. Really how can someone say this rock is a million years or more old? Have they been around to make sure that the rock they speak of is that age to see all its gone threw to say oh the weather has done this to it making its atomic half life this? They don’t honestly know. To me a flood makes far more sense then a storm or earthquake that trapped them in there. There are to many for a storm to have put them there and earthquake seems off for the fact it would seem only a small wall but these fossiles were not just 30 feet from the ocean.
Report Post »mattmo79
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 6:06pmMore proof of man cause global warming!!
Report Post »Miyegombo Bayartsogt
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 6:06pmBack before the evolution, whales walked about on dry land. They would holiday in the hills where they enjoyed picnics and what while taking in the vistas. Some whales enjoyed the high lands so much they requested they be buried there when their toils in the ocean depths was complete. There is nothing unusual here, just a graveyard of forgotten Cetacea.
Report Post »TruthSpeaker
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 6:49pmyeah, maybe the whales became entangled in trees !
Report Post »Inisro
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 6:02pmExplain Australia and everything that is on it……….really……..think about it.
Report Post »Dug2Dark
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 5:51pmReally, giant whale graveyard huh. Where do U think we’ve been burying all the deceased liberal girls all thes years. They’re too toxic to bury on our own soil. So now the mystery is solved. Sorry Chile about that dirty trick, but we’re sending barry over to bow & apologize, & by the way, U do have some gulf courses there?
Report Post »& I‘m sure with all that coastline U can take care of barry’s lobsters.
flatbroke
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 5:39pmThis is easy for me to figure out. The great flood, and noahs ark, It took many years for the waters to receed, maybe 100-1000 years, and the whales lived there,and died there over time, the coast dryed up and became a hill, with all the earthquakes, and land changes that take place over time, they found a whale graves, as there are many at the ocean bottom.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 12:23pmSo you acknowledge that the face of the planet can change over time in the exact same paragraph as you saying that a great flood lasting a century allowed whales to die atop a mountain? Seriously? If you accept that the face of the earth is changing, then why don’t you accept tectonic plate movement and the theory of how mountain ranges are created?
Is it somehow more plausible to you that a mass of water the size of 3 times that present on earth at this time just appeared over an intense period of rain lasting 40 days and nights and then it all evaporated into the cosmos after several years? How is it possible that you believe in a magical appearance and disappearance of a ginormous mass of water but the movement of the earth’s crust over its molten core is too hard for you to accept?
It really sounds like you are either blindly following you faith, which is commendable yet ignorant, or you are using your religion as an excuse to keep from using your own brain to process logic.
BTW, I believe there is a God and that the creation of human conciousness through the seemingly almost random interaction of atoms is a miracle, but when something can be proven, why fight it with four thousand year old myths?
Report Post »Mose
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 5:36pmSeems pretty simple…they were in the right place at the wrong time when The Flood receded.
Report Post »SBR308
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 5:12pmThis is a no brainer. When a whale dies the others take it to a whale graveyard and bury it.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:51pmDid you people not study Earth Science in elementary school?
Report Post »akairey
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 5:03pmyes….then we grew up reading the real truths and lies “they” tried to indoctrinate.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 5:21pmDon’t confront theists with logical arguments or scientific evidence that fails to fit their model of the universe. It just freaks them out.
If that path brings them peace and helps them be good people then nothing else matters…
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:43pmBack in the 70′s when I surveyed the countryside of Texas for private firms and Geophysical Services Inc., I was amazed at the topography. Entire areas of hill country were nothing but fossilized sea shells.
Report Post »It was only evident where the embankment had been worn away by time and the elements.
It appears that much of the rolling hill country of East Texas is made of this material.
I don’t believe that the slow process of sedimentation envisioned by evolutionists was the cause.
It would not have piled the shells up in such a manner.
Snidely
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 9:41pmI always have to laugh when the evos say “this area was once under a shallow sea.” They just can’t acknowledge a global flood. I visited a gold mine in the Colorado Rockies a few years ago. The guide told us the gold veins were deposited because “it was once under a shallow sea”. He was half right. It was under water before the mountains rose up and the valleys sank down. And there was a lot of sediment and metals (and whales) deposited in a very short period.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:05pmSnidely,
The fact that people like you roam the streets scares the crap out of me. Failed educational system.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 3:42pmYo Science Fearin:
I believe that they teach evolution in our failed educational system. Might want to reTHINK your statement.
Dead giveaway in this story….. starts out with a date given on the fossils…. how do they know this… if they did no tests…… they ASSUME…. not science! Everything they do is based on assumptions and pre-suppositions (theory), and then they turn around; lie, and call it facts and say aren’t those creationists idiots when all we do is say… hold on fella’s let not assume here and take a closer look.
It would be interesting if a group of aliens landed on this planet without any pre-concieved notions and never heard of God and began there science tests. Of course some people think we are from aliens…..
Report Post »akairey
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:35pmFor US like minded individuals (not the useful idiots) take a look at this to use a back up for US to prove THEM wrong of the “2 million years ago” fairy tale that is a “theory” that has been proven wrong time and time again, but is STILL being taught at the schools we 53% are paying through our tax dollars! http://evolutionfacts.com/EncyclopediaTOC.htm
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:35pmPlate tectonics.
Report Post »american_rose_126
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:20pmI was about to say the same thing….every major historical culture mentions a great flood of some kind. I studied that at a highly secular “fine arts” college–my atheist professor believed in a ‘great flood.’ Yet these nitwits REFUSE to even consider the possibility. They cut off their noses to spite their faces. Quite sad, really. Though God will enlighten them eventually–in His great mercy, He will not allow them to be deceived for all of eternity. Just hope they listen sooner rather than later. He would love to help them out with their research.
Report Post »armymp
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:28pmDon’t be silly. This has nothing to do with God or the bible. It’s clear evidence of global warming, and it traces back to one man… Georgius Bushicus!!!
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:29pmYou are very right.
Report Post »Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus the Christ is Lord to the glory of God the father. (I paraphrased it of course)
Philippians 2:11
Favored93
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:13pmWhat came first the chicken or the egg?…..
Report Post »The chicken. God made men and animals as ADULTS.
Our carbon dating has been found to be inaccurate. Even IF however it was accurate and a rock or bone that has fossilized has been dated at MILLIONS of years should not go to disproving creation when you understand that God made the earth mature with a word. There is far too much evidence to support creationism and way to little to support evolution.
This story is a great example of yet another discovery that supports the HISTORICAL FACT of a global flood that is recorded in the bible and thus confirming the truth about God and His plan for mankind past present and future.
There is a God and we are accountable to Him. The truth of the Bible is clearly seen and my hope is that those of you who read this story will think about it and come to the Bible for your answers and see Jesus with new eyes. His love for humanity is boundless and nowhere else in the world is that love demonstrated more then in the Bible were we see the ONLY Son of God die for my sin and yours, be buried and physically raised from the dead all for us!
Our lives are but a vapor in the wind. You thought that your childhood went by fast but that is nothing. The day will come, (100 out of every 100 people die) when you will see your life behind you.
God is not far away now is the time to run to Him because after death it is to late. Just a bit of food for thought :)
BloodSweatandTears
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 6:13pmWe are told to test everything, not to blindly or glibly accept things. Hugh Ross, astrophysicist, theologian, author, has some very interesting research (over thirty years,) on the subjects that will deepen understanding. Astrophysicists like Stephen Hawking confirm there was a beginning,
Report Post »and thermodynamics (another law) indicate a cooling of the universe. It all adds up, and can be measured for the more skeptical.
SgtB
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 12:14pmI agree that there is a God. I cannot for the life of me accept that atoms can interact on a molecular level to create sentient conciousness and life. HOWEVER! You assertation that evolution is false and counter to the possibility or reality of a God is severly shortsighted and just moronic. It can be seen everywhere that humans have practiced animal husbandry that evolution can and does happen. Even your pets are the products of selective breeding and manipulation of the natural and Godly recombonation of DNA that can produce an INFINTE variability from one genertion to the next and over time can create divergent forms of life.
You say that God created a “mature” earth with a word. What is a mature earth? And why did it matter that it be created in an instant as opposed to over billions or trillions of years or even over an infinite timespan that is only conceived as time by us because we are limited in our interactions with the physical world by the rate of chemical reaction that takes place throughout our body and specifically in our neural synapses? Why can this not be a universe of ever expanding and collapsing matter that has no end and no beginnig? Why does everyone assume that there could be only one big bang? If the universe is infinte then why is there not room for multiple “universes” to occupy the real universe, each with their own cycle of expansion and contraction and possibly the mingling of such universes as surely as galaxies have been seen to do?
Report Post »2SENSEWORTH
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:56pmThe word dinosaur originated in the 1840′s and meant terrible lizard.
Report Post »The word prehistoric originated in the1850′s and was designated to mean “of or relating to man’s development before the appearance of the written word.”
They won’t use the word “flood” just like they won’t use the words “leviathan or behemoth” that were used in the Bible.
By the 1850′s Darwin had got his claws into them. Too bad for all the soothsayers who thought prehistoric had to mean millions of years ago. I’m OK with prehistoric meaning before recorded history, as referring to approximately 4,000 years ago – the year the flood has been dated to.
Ahhh – those prehistoric leviathans and behemoths.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 5:29pmThe Book of Enoch is simply amazing.
Report Post »toomuchgovt
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:18pmI also believe this is proof of the great flood. I am tired of all the pessimism. I liked seeing the video of the images over the Swiss Alps, just maybe it is Jesus and Mary. Just Maybe it is God and Jesus. Just maybe we can hope for something bigger than ourselves. Thank you Blaze for allowing us believers for just one minute of hope in a world so full of hopelessness.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:16pmAn ancient recollection of a Great Flood… exists in every Culture in the World… even the Ancient Egypts mention it: and Horus first found land…
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:45pmI was thinking the same thing. Why do our “scientists” not even consider the possibility that the Bible has the answer as to how and why a whale ends up in a desert. Have they just not EVER heard of Noah?
Report Post »The ice age is another thing that grinds my gears. Ice and liquid water have the same effect on land over time but I have never seen a whale end up in a glacier. The whole earth was at one point under water and so you have fish and whale bones on mountain tops and in odd places like this. The reason they don’t admit the possibility that the Bible is right is because to do so would mean first that they have been wrong and second that there is a God and third in light of that it means they would have to be accountable to Him.
It saddens and angers me at the same time.
Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:09pmThat’s just dumb. They wont‘ agree that it was Noah’s flood because they‘d have to admit they’re wrong?
It’s simple minded to think that no intelligent scientist has ever tried to prove the flood. Proof has been looked for for every major bible event.
Sorry to burst your bubble but earth science explains these things, not fairy tales. GET AN EDUCATION YOU MORON.
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 5:33pm“That’s just dumb. They wont‘ agree that it was Noah’s flood because they‘d have to admit they’re wrong?”
No, that sounds perfectly right. Ever hear of Ignaz Semmelweis? Probably not. “Semmelweis brought the medical community the idea that they were killing large numbers of new mothers by working with festering wounds in surgery, then immediately assisting with births without even washing hands. Such a truth was far too shameful for a community of experts to accept, so he was ignored. Semmelweis finally ended up in a mental hospital, and his ideas caught fire after he had died.”
http://amasci.com/weird/vindac.html#j16
So yes it is very, very possible the scientific community does not want to admit they are wrong.
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:16pmNaw, it couldn’t be a flood…. it doesn’t fit in with our preconceived notions that there is no God and that the earth is billions of years old. But we’ll try our hardest to come up with an explanation OTHER than a flood cause ya know, it makes more sense /sarc.
Report Post »Robert999
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:07pmThis is proof of the Great Flood described in the Bible, and it wasn’t 2 million years ago, it was thousands of years ago.
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:19pmThey will search for ANY answer,but the obvious. Creation,since it is not a possiblity to these twits, will leave then guessing until the Second coming.
Report Post »Just_One
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:20pmFossils in the mountains are proof of continental drift and plate tectonics. The fossil record proves that these events happened over 2 million years ago because fossils do not form in mere thousands of years. I am comfortable with the Bible being less than accurate when it comes to time frames. Either that or you have proven God is a practical joker with a really wicked sense of humor.
Report Post »VISITORNUMBER3
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:42pmYep:
Genesis 8:1 But God remembered Noah and all the beasts and all the cattle that were with him in the ark; and God caused a wind to pass over the earth, and the water subsided.
Now, if you’re a bunch of whales (and they DO travel in bunches: schools, pods or herds) and you‘re swimming around after there’s been a great flood and then the water begins to subside, isn’t it entirely possible that you could all get stranded and die in what would later become a desert? Sounds simple enough to me…Millions of yearsago??? I don’t think so…
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:10pmYes vistornumber
that sounds entirely possible
lol FFS
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:06amThe more you people try to pass the bible off as factual the more ridiculous you people look. It’s no wonder people like Hitler and Obama rise to power when so many humans base everything on emotional beliefs.
Report Post »derekg
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:05pmC’mon! Are you guys really that ignorant or are you just anti-God? Can you say F-L-O-O-D? As in the Bible, Noah, the Ark, the Rainbow? Why can’t you just take God, the one who created you, at his Word instead of trying to prove your theories with man’s faulty wisdom.
Report Post »oldschoolgreen
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:05pmDidn’t know the Japanese were around 2 million years ago. Guess they didn’t have the Sea Shepherd around back then.
Report Post »LightOfReason
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:01pmOh WoW you think that maybe, just maybe there was a flood? No of course not we wouldn’t want to even consider that now would we….
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