‘A Clear Overreach’: Gibson CEO Blasts Justice Department
- Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:13pm by
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Gibson Guitar Corp.’s chief slammed the U.S. government on Wednesday for sending armed agents to raid two Tennessee factories under a law aimed at curbing the illegal harvest of tropical hardwoods, reports Reuters.
“Armed people came in our factory … evacuated our employees, then seized half a million dollars of our goods without any charges having been filed,” Gibson CEO Henry Juszkiewicz told reporters and others at a Washington lunch.
“I think it’s a clear overreach,” he said.
Government agents seized a total of over $1 million worth of rosewood, ebony and finished guitars from Gibson factories in Memphis and Nashville in raids in 2009 and August of this year, Juszkiewicz told Reuters.
Gibson’s factories remain open “under great difficulty” because the raids took most of the company’s raw materials, the CEO said. In a Capitol Hill forum Wednesday, Juszkiewicz told Republican lawmakers the raids have so far cost the company more than $3 million in legal fees and manufacturing disruptions.
The price of their products will likely go up because of the financial hit they have taken.
Furthermore, the CEO cautioned that American jobs could sent overseas as a result of the federal harassment.
“You know, there’s a very real possibility we will have to move at least some processing [jobs] overseas,” the Daily Caller reports Juszkiewicz saying. “I’m trying to avoid that. But you know, I have to do what the business requires, and that’s a very realistic possibility.”
The U.S. Justice Department declined on Wednesday to comment on the case but provided information on the Lacey Act, which aims to curb trafficking in wildlife, fish and plant products, including illegally obtained timber.
“By prohibiting trafficking in wood illegally harvested overseas, the Lacey Act prohibits companies from undercutting law-abiding U.S. wood products companies … by trading in artificially inexpensive raw materials that have been illegally harvested from foreign forests,” Justice and Interior department officials wrote in a letter.
Gibson Guitar uses a small fraction of the world’s tropical hardwoods, compared to that used for furniture and flooring, and because it uses so little it can use it sustainably, Juszkiewicz said.
“The issue here is not illegal logging or some conservation abuse,” he said. “The laws that are being identified by the Department of Justice have to do with protectionism by the country of origin, keeping work in that country and therefore not allowing something that isn’t that value-added to be exported.”
Gibson has filed suit in federal court in Nashville to recover the seized material, but that suit has been stayed while the investigation continues, reports Reuters.
Furthermore, the guitar manufacturer has hired a Washington law firm to lobby on its behalf.
The Tennessean reports that Crowley & Morley LLP will lobby against the Lacey Act, which federal officials are investigating Gibson of violating.
Gibson’s chief said the law should be changed.
“I believe in the intent of the law … but I do believe that the way it‘s currently written allows what’s happening to me to happen to other companies, and that’s wrong,” he said.
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jb.kibs
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:14pmdamn, Gibson is one of the finest companies on this planet… This is just sad. I hope the american people wake the fuhck up and arm themselves againt this tyrany.
The Tree of Liberty MUST be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Gibson Master Tone is the staple of American Music. the Master Tone IS THE banjo… This is a direct attack on America. This is a declaration of War upon America and it’s history. It is our RIGHT and our DUTY to defend our Great Nation.
the FACT, the UNDISPUTED FACT is that, WOOD is a renewable resource, to protect it; is to abandon all logic and reason. it’s like protecting grass… they regrow, plant more… wtf people, are you serious or are you just looking to get recongnized for something, good OR BAD? My guess is the later… you fools…
Report Post »taxedenuf
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:05pmThis is nothing more or less than every one of these regulatory laws being passed by nameless, faceless beaurocrats receiving quid pro cash from these lobbying firms. Our legislators spend their valuable time lobbying lobbyists for “campaign contributions” and then turn over their IOUs for those dollars to beaurocrats who write some regulation to pay off the congressweasel’s debt.
Report Post »JMorcan
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:56pmThis company partnered with corruption when it donated huge sums to the GOP. Gibson deserves whatever it gets.
Report Post »theaveng
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 2:14pmJMORCAN: By that logic any company that donated money to the Reps or Dems ALSO deserve to be raided. That would mean almost every company in the USA would have to lose their inventory (taken by the cops)..
I also find it ironic that Obama talks about “creating” jobs, and yet here’s a company that has been severely damaged by this raid (their inventory was taken), and will probably be forced to move overseas to survive. Hence thousands of Americans will be put out of work.
Do those workers also “deserve whatever they get”? They didn’t do anything wrong, and yet the government is jeopardizing their jobs too.
Report Post »nocalifornia
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 2:53pmWho would blame Gibson from shipping all of its jobs to China? The comment by jmorcan says it all, if you donate to the republican party then you will get a visit from the injustice department for allegedly breaking a law of a foreign government, but if you are a guitar manufacturer who donates to the democrats and use the same wood from the same countries your golden. This administration is the most corrupt this country has seen since Taft and the injustice department has become the collections arm of the democrat party.
Report Post »JazzGuy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 4:04pmIt’s worse than that. This is fascism at its worst!
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 4:11pm.
Report Post »Hey Henry just be glad they Overreached, and did not reacharound. You would have lost more than Wood……..
TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 5:07pmThis company donated to candidates in the name of proper representation, but we don’t have enough representation in this country anymore. We have power grabs and citizen, economy, education and business abuse by agencies that have no constitutional power to legislate and a green light from elitist, supreme class traitors to our liberty and freedom.
Report Post »PoliticalSmackdown {Subscribe & Friend me on YouTube}
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 7:49pmthis is a direct attack on a company that holds conservative values and does not contribute to democrats.
Report Post »Obama and company should go directly to jail for Treason.
the hawk
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 8:51pmI was On Ebay today looking for ebony freetboards THEY were all over the place !
Report Post »But sapposed to be illegal ,Yeah, well i guess just for Gibson !The value of a nEW gIBSON WILL FALL THROUGH THE FLOOR IF PARTS OF THESE WONDERFULL INSTRUMENTS ARE NOT MADE HERE ! We just dont / wont want them ! I already have a couple so I’ll be fine and the value of mine will always keep going up !
WeDontNeedNoSteeeenkinBadges
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 9:19pm“the CEO cautioned that American jobs could sent overseas as a result of the federal harassment.”
No!
Report Post »STAND AND FIGHT!
The Progressives (communists) goal IS to collapse America through onerous and unConstitutional regulations. If you surrender OR leave, that works for them.
STAND AND FIGHT!
The10thAmendment
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 6:14am@ JMorcan
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:56pm
This company partnered with corruption when it donated huge sums to the GOP. Gibson deserves whatever it gets.
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You’re an F…ing idiot.
JMorcan
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 1:19am@ THEAVENG
“By that logic any company that donated money to the Reps or Dems ALSO deserve to be raided.”
That’s exactly right. Contributing to either of these organizations validates the systemic corruption that supports them both. If you’re gonna bribe criminals and socialists, expect to get shot once in a while.
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:01pmMost people are completely unaware of the actions of Gibson’s CEO. He isn’t a saint and it is a littel embarrassing to see my friends here falling for this.
Report Post »19RANDY59
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:16pmClarify please.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:18pmCan you be more specific?
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:26pmI have been involved in the MI industry for over 30 years. Some of you might even be using some of my work product in your studios.. When he acquired Gibson he became no one’s best friend. This isn’t the place to go over it but PLEASE.. google and research this guy before you go out and buy GIbsons and jump in his bandwagon. I implore you all to be careful about which side you pick in this situation. I am NO fan of this admin or the dirty DOJ.
Report Post »calvet53
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:44pmRegardless if you like him or approve of him it still does not give the Gov. the right to seize property, shut down a business, incurr costs that could lead to bankrupsy without due process. It has been two years and two raids and still no charges have been filed. After two years if they still haven’t found cause to file actual charges then it is nothing less than harrasement at the point of a gun.
Report Post »Does that sound like the America we believe in?
Buck Shane
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:50pm***Union Post***
Report Post »FORLORNHOPE
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:56pmNappy when did you stop beating your wife? oh I am sorry you can not defend yourself.. so sorry about that.
Report Post »CLEttinger
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:58pmRegardless of the President of the company, Gibson is being prosecuted under another country’s law that that country said Gibson followed. More of this administration trying to pick winners and losers. I cant imagine a more incompetent administration.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:34pmShould WE TRUST the DOJ ?????
Suing the State of Arizona, for inforcing State Immigration Laws.
Selling assault Weapons to Mexico, endangering Americans.
Being less than Truthful, at Congress Hearings (Fast &Furious)
And what other devious BS this Corrupt Administration is doing..
Hell, I would stick up for Al Capone, over this Administration !!!
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:37pmThe point is that Gibson’s CEO _could be_ capable of less than ethical practices. I haven’t seen a complete offering from the DOJ so instead of jumping on the same bandwagon with the rest of you I will patiently wait for some facts. THAT is the American way.. not irrational knee-jerking. Don’t trust EITHER of the parties involved.
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:39pm“Hell, I would stick up for Al Capone, over this Administration !!!”
Well. there ya go.
Report Post »jetblast3500
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:49pm@Nappy – All you’ve done is throw accusations out in the wind. When YOU provide a link to back up what you’ve said, we might take you seriously. Since you’ve already been asked several times to do this and failed to provide an answer, then I respectfully request you take your mudslinging else where.
Report Post »jkilson
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:01pmSupport freedom and hack off the Justice Dept… buy a Gibson Guitar!
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 8:57pmI already have a few ….And what Gibson charges for those exotic woods…… well I’m thinking carvin !
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:59pmStarting at the top, there are too many stupid people in The Department of Justice…or maybe it should be called The department of Social Justice Only.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:51pmNew name is much more descriptive of the current REGIME!
TEA!
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:44pmAnyone who has raised Children, can tell Holder is
lying through hi teeth, (Fast&Furious)..
Send them back to Chicago..The whole filthy bunch..
Report Post »Some should do time with Blago !!
Rillobymorning
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 4:56pmNot just stupid, but complete lawlessness in this department. I was unaware of just how corrupt it was until recently reading the new book “Injustice” by Christian Adams, the lawyer who worked for the civil rights division of the DOJ prior to the NBP case being released.
Report Post »19RANDY59
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:54pmThis is part of the problem. The gov. has been doing this to people for decades, and your local police have assisted them in their illegal seizures. Your city councilperson, county supervisor, state rep, have all sworn an oath to uphold, and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign, and domestic. they have the authority to fire law enforcement who participate in these raids. Also, people need to wake up, and speak out in general, not just when the gov. is stepping on their toes, like this CEO. Hold your local officials accountable.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:52pmGod bless ‘em – and hope there will be more and more that will not take this and do something to fight it and get it in the national news for all to hear.
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:52pmEvery liberal who owns a Gibson….
See, doesn’t matter in the end, whether your on the Conservative side or liberal side…. once you give big gov’t power – they come after EVERYONE…. even the liberals, no one gets a pass, not even you…
So if you‘re cheerleading how gov’t is getting bigger and more powerful and thinking “hey, I support these guys, I’ll get a waiver” think twice moron, you mean nothing to big gov’t – once they are in power, you’ve served your purpose, report to the labor camps with everyone else once you‘ve turned over all your money and possessions to the gov’t – thank you nameless citizen, move on.
Report Post »19RANDY59
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:59pmExactly!!!
Report Post »Oldcarsandguitars
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:40pmI point I have been trying to make with every post…ROCK ON
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:44pmok.. whenever “labor camps” enter the conversation I think it is without doubt.. nut-worthy. This is just about Gibson and the possibility they broke some dumb-ass law.
Please tell me WHY he is threatening to move jobs overseas? Has ANYONE here contemplated how silly that is or how in the world that would that would affect ANYTHING? FOR THAT I have reason to believe this is mostly BS.
Report Post »What_Did_I_Miss
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 10:39pm“There’s no way to rule innocent men.
The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime
that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
—Ayn Rand “Atlas Shrugged”
Report Post »Deckle
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:49pmI am sad to hear the CEO of Gibson say this because if he really understood the Obama administration, he would understand that the Justice Dept along will all the other government departments are the long arms of the Obama administration and are tasks with carrying out his agenda. So this is exactly what they want to destroy this nation is to force manufacturers to send more jobs overseas. They speak with fork tongues. They say they want jobs but the really want to destroy the economy of this country in their plot to destroy Capitalism. I hope the CEO rethinks and challenges them legally instead of sending the jobs overseas. Stand strong!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:52pmTruth is spoken indeed, this is just one more part for the plan of pressure, pressure, pressure until all comes crashing down; Obama is doing this to see where the first spark will happen, and come down on the whole nation.
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:02pmActually, his already doing what you hope he would: challenging it in court and trying to keep the jobs here. The operative part of what the story says is that the lawsuit has been stayed by the courts while “the investigation continues”. That’s the point! The “investigation” has been going on for 2 years! It’s a clear attempt to destry Gibson because Gibson is owned and run by a Conservative, and no campaign donations were made to the Obama campaign. Obama runs around screaming about passing a jobs bill while simultaneously destroying American businesses and trying to force more jobs overseas and putting more Americans out of work. Look at the AT&T/T-Mobile merger that the Obamanation “Justice” Dept. shot down under “anti-Trust” laws; That deal would have brought abut 5,000 overseas tech and support jobs back to the US from overseas, but oh, no! Obama can’t have that…! The “Justice” Dept. already told Gibson that their problems would “go away” if they moved their fretboard production to Madagascar.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:57pmYou reckon Biden will make a speech about that?
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:48pmCan you say extortion by the DOJ? It is time we get Eric Holder out of this position and all his cronies and send him to jail for the rest of his life. If we don’t nip this in the bud now, all American jobs will be at risk. This is their plan to eliminate American made goods. If they can take away American jobs, then they will have control over us. They want a revolution; that is why they want to take away the guns. As long as law biding citizens have guns, they can’t invoke a full scale revolution.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:56pmYes – and that was the satanic scheme behind “Fast and Furious” — so they could say they had to pass a law to limit gun sales – whatever. But alas, they were caught and now hopefully we can finally get some justice & get rid of Holder and shake up the DOJ (along with the other scandals going like Solyndra). So that is encouraging..hang in there.
Report Post »65Mustang
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:05pmEric Holder will never spend a day in jail because his cohort in crime (destroying the USA) is Obama.
Report Post »TheSitRep
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:44pmThere is no private business that Obama’s goons have not directly or indirectly made worse off.
They spend every moment of their day scheming to destroy this country.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:52pmYES! Right on point!
TEA!
Report Post »4XGrace
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:44pmObummer certainly ain’t a strummer;
Report Post »Neither does he appear to be a lover;
But certainly he is a discorder.
encinom
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:55pmSorry Gibson knew they were breaking the law with the importation of the hard woods, now that they got their hands caught in the cookie jar are they crying.
The filing — which argues Gibson lacks the right to claim ownership over the seized ebony because it is contraband — includes text from internal Gibson emails.
“[A] Gibson employee…wrote that ‘[t]he true Ebony species preferred by Gibson Musical Instruments is found only in Madagascar (Diospryos perrieri). This is a slow-growing tree species with very little conservation protection and supplies are considered to be highly threatened in its native environment due to over exploitation.’ In fact, [he] ‘spent two and a half weeks in Madagascar this June [2008],’ writing on his return, ‘I represented our company along with two other guitar manufacturers…. All legal timber and wood exports are prohibited because of wide spread corruption and theft of valuable woods like rosewood and ebony.’”
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:30pmI really hate to do this but at the moment I have to agree with encinom. Until I get hard facts I am not sure we’re on the right side of this.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:32pm@ encinom
Report Post »CHRIS DANIEL: Mr. Juszkiewicz, did an agent of the US government suggest to you that your problems would go away if you used Madagascar labor instead of American labor?
HENRY JUSZKIEWICZ: They actually wrote that in a pleading.
This is from a Blaze article.
This is not about the wood.
Buck Shane
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:57pm@ nappy
Report Post »***Union Post***
nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:41pmre: “union post”
there are no unions for what I do and if there were I wouldn’t join them in this lifetime.
My god people what a bunch of sheep. Get some facts. You’re listening to the CEO of Gibson and taking his word for everything. How friggin pathetic.
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:45pmBuck.. got a pdf of that pleading?
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 4:02pm@ NAPPY
Report Post »You were asked twice for details of your charges. You did not respond.
The information I posted I noted was from a Blaze article
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/update-gibson-guitar-ceo-says-feds-told-him-to-outsource-labor-to-madagascar/
If you have reasons to back your charges, lets see them, otherwise, this looks like a pro union post.
EqualJustice
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 4:56pmHey enicom… tell your boss, I assume is jess lee, you are OVERPAID. Your posts are too predictable! You are WASTING your time trying to convince people here that LIBERAL is the way to go. Go preach to the choir over at HuffyPo.
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 6:35pmBuck.. I made no charges. The content of my post was:
“. Until I get hard facts I am not sure we’re on the right side of this.”
With all due respect.. you posted a Blaze article. I asked for the DOJ pleading. so .. come on.
I get a kick out of your “union post” thing. I have never been a fan of unions. Never joined one and there aren’t ANY for what I do for a living so.. you‘re barkin’ up the wrong tree Bucko!
At any rate.. I will be waiting for the copy of the DOJ pleading to prove yours and Henry’s claims. Until then As OJ said “I am 110% Not Guilty” is the word of the day I suppose.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:42pm@ nappy
Report Post »Posted on October 13, 2011 at 6:35pm
Quote Nappy, “Most people are completely unaware of the actions of Gibson’s CEO. He isn’t a saint and it is a littel embarrassing to see my friends here falling for this.”
Quote 19RANDY59, “Clarify please.”
Quote JLGunner, “Can you be more specific?”
Nappy I no longer think you are a union poster. I do not think you are honest. Since you are the one who wants information, why would I want to do your research? Are you lazy, too?
WarriorPitbull
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:44pmI’m the proud owner of a 1986 Gibson Explorer. That guitar has some miles on it and plays even better than the day I bought it new. Like a fine violin, Gibson guitars get even better with age.
Give me Gibson or give me death!
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:47pmMost guitars get better with age. I have a ‘37 L10 and a 69 Dove. They’re nice guitars but some of the cheaper ones I have are better than brand new Gibsons.
Report Post »I SPY
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:42pmThis administration is out of control. Criminal charges need to be placed on all of them once we get a REAL president in OUR white house again.
Report Post »branch manager
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:37pmStay strong Gibson!! Your sales will go up because of this. Just one more year of this commie bastard!
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:35pmWe no longer have a Justice Department under obama.
Report Post »It is strictly an Injustice Department.
Holder, obama, and all the dems that gave them power need to be voted out.
That is our only hope left.
DanWesson455
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:33pmI don’t play the Guitar, tried once and was too busy to get any good. But I may just buy a Gibson just to help their bottom line out. I wonder if I can find one with a rosewood fret board?
Report Post »garbagecanlogic
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:31pmHow ignorant and overbearing can Holder be that he has not apologized a long time ago and got out of this mess. The guy is a total bloomin idiot. He will probably claim he had not read about it yet.
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
Report Post »The U.N. Out Of The U.S.
NOBAMA201258
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:38pmGuess we all know what holder has been holding!!!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:27pmMeanwhile in California, Fender (a Democrat contributor and unionized) continues to produce Stratocasters and Telecasters with the same indian rosewood fingerboards unimpeded.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:45pmCome on, Gonzo…you’re not saying being unionized and a supporter of tyranny could actually play a factor here.
Report Post »Must be purely coincidental…after all, obama is the president of the people.
Just ask the lying bast*rd.
WarriorPitbull
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:46pmThat explains the annoying tinny weak-assed sound that Fender guitars produce as compared to the deep rich ballsy sound that Gibson guitars produce.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 1:39pmCome on WarriorPitbull, You can make a Strat scream. Jimmi, SRV, Blackmore? I have Gibbies and Fenders and love them both. Leo wasn’t a commie and he invented the Strat and Tele. Where would country be without the Tele?
Report Post »nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 3:49pmGood point Gonzo.. If you are 100% positive that is true.
The Strat is by far the most beautiful body ever designed. Leo rocked that one to the moon.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 4:10pm@ nappy
Report Post »We’re going to disagree on everything. The Martin D28 etc., is the best designed guitar. The Strat is no higher that number 4.
nappy
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 6:37pmApples and Oranges Buck! D28 isn’t an electric solid body guitar. Come on Buck!
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:27pmOnce again the Feds are trying to earn back their handle “Jack Booted Thugs”.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:25pmApparently the Obama administration supports any country except America.
Report Post »michael48
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:25pmit’s about campaign contributions….ALL the other Guitar manufactures are all LIB-TARDS and use the very same , Questioned , products…one owned by CBS..typical Dem-Wit “fair this and that ” crap, as long as they get thier CUT…(D)= Gov. Gumbas….
Report Post »1947
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:24pmI bet if you started a UNION for your workers. The government would leave you alone…….
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:22pmI have a Gibson guitar. When this started, I bought another. If there was one single thing that would prevent me from voting for Mr. Obama, this would be enough. That there are other reasons makes this point moot, but by itself, this would be enough.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:18pmLooks like Obummer is winning another one, drive those jobs out, get everyone dependent on the government. Is this great country or what. The best friend an Asian ever had.
Report Post »theonefromabove
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:21pmGood they need it, that is for sure.
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Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 13, 2011 at 12:25pmHim and his BBFF Eric the Red
NOV 2012 is coming Fast and Furious
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