Gingrich Defends ‘Humane’ Immigration Stance, Vows ‘I Am Not for Amnesty for Anyone’
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Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich defended his immigration stance Friday. (AP)
Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich defended remarks he made earlier this week about illegal immigration, saying Friday he is “not for amnesty” but does believe in a “path to legality” for those whose ties run deep in the U.S.
“I am not for amnesty for anyone. I am not for a path to citizenship for anybody who got here illegally,” Gingrich said at a Florida town hall event, according to The Hill. “But I am for a path to legality for those people whose ties run so deeply in America that it would truly be a tragedy to try and rip their family apart.”
The former House Speaker drew fire for his immigration stance at Tuesday’s Republican debate when he said he was prepared to “take the heat” for asserting that the GOP should have a “humane” position on illegals who have been in the country for a long time.
“If you’ve come here recently, you have no ties to this country, you ought to go home, period,” Gingrich said Tuesday. “If you’ve been here 25 years and you got three kids and two grandkids, you’ve been paying taxes and obeying the law, you belong to a local church, I don‘t think we’re going to separate you from your family, uproot you forcefully and kick you out.”
He added: “I don‘t see how the party that says it’s the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy which destroys families which have been here a quarter-century. I‘m prepared to take the heat for saying let’s be humane in enforcing the law.”
Conservatives piled on those remarks, including GOP rival Michele Bachmann, who said Gingrich had the “most liberal position on illegal immigration” out of anyone in the race.
Gingrich described his comments Friday as “a little bit of an issue,” according to ABC, and said he wanted to revisit them.
He suggested 25 years as the cut off point for families with deep roots in the country, and having the legalization process similar to draft panels used in World War II, leaving it up to the community to decide who is a good citizen and who should leave.
“It gets to be a matter of judgment. Is somebody really a part of the fabric of the community or are they are not? If they aren’t, they should go home,” Gingrich said.
He also vowed that if elected, he would make securing the border a priority and push to make English the official U.S. language. He said he would also establish a guest-worker program but would hit employers who hire illegals with heavy fines.
“I would have very, very stiff economic penalties for anyone who hires somebody who is not legally inside the system,” Gingrich said.





















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Tired of Code Names
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:58pmWith respect go Gingrich, you guy’s should do some homework as the founder of this site requests. (by the way, Glenn Beck from what I can ascertain, is not a fan of Gingrich) Anyway, I don’t think Newt is an insider per se, and he is definately not a RINO. He defiantly pushed Clinton into balancing the budget and made Clinton look like a hero for the economy.
If Gingrich were such a popular RINO and insider….why did so many of the confirmed insiders try to drive him out of his speakership? John Boehner is one of the biggest insider sniveling morons I’ve ever seen. Yet, Boehner was one who helped form a group of congressman to drive out Gingrich.
Capital Hill wants Romney. Why? They are scared that Newt would actually follow through on his promises. Check out this article from “The Hill” http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/195427-lawmakers-not-flocking-to-gingrich
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on November 28, 2011 at 1:27amNewt “The Globalist” Gingrich is about as corrupt as you can get.
Report Post »Ethics violations.
Money from Fanny and Freddie.
Climate change BS with Pelousy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154&feature=player_embedded
C’mon people? WAKE UP!!
There is only ONE CHAMPION.
The rest are CHAMELEONS.
Restore America Now!!
Restore the Constitution!
Stop the spending!
Protect OUR borders!
Bring ‘em home!!
Audit the Fed!!
There is only ONE who predicted the financial crisis, which is ONLY going to get worse if another phony puppet conservative, or Ohmamma is elected.
There is only ONE who can’t be bought off.
Iran is NOT a threat to the US or Israel. Even if they had a nuke, do you think they would nuke the Palestinians as well? This is propaganda fed to you by the people who got us into this mess, and want to start WWIII.
Sharia Law is not going to sweep this country by storm, and replace the Constitution, EVER.
Don’t get fooled again America.
No more LIARS 2012
You know in your heart he is right.
ADNIL
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:56pmFirst, secure the borders, for real. I do not believe they can’t. They, so far, just don’t want to. I wonder why??? They won’t even let the border states enforce the laws themselves. I wonder why???
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:06pmIf they can tell when a gopher breaches the perimeter of Area 51, they can secure the US border.
Report Post »BeHeardAmerica
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:20pmDon’t mind all the crazy comments about Newt.. He’s the best and brightest in the pack. He’s made mistakes but listen to what he says. He understand the debt. He understand border and he understand economics 101. Go Newt 2012!
Report Post »Pigpen
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:37pmUnless our Great TECHNOCRAT Rulers can find more people to dominate here in the USA, the Social Security program will go broke. That means immigration, legal or otherwise. More workers = more payments into Social Security. ALL HAIL the Literati! ALL HAIL the Ivy Leaguers! When the barbarians made their final push towards Rome, the august leaders of Rome could find NO ONE from the countryside to step forward to fight in the Legions… not even in the rural parts of Rome where recruiting was usually so fruitful, would any of the equestrian or plebeian ranks step forward. That is what this “Proposition Nation” nonsense will bring here to the USA. That is why the whore we call a military offers US citizenship to foreign recruits… Welcome to the end my fellow Crackers. The Elites’ money and habitual drug use gives them a perpetual feeling of invincibility. They will march those of us in the front ranks right off the cliff long before their rear position gets close enough to the edge for them to see what is really going on. All hail Emperor Gingrich!
Report Post »gogogoff
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:44pmBEHEARDAMERICA
Newt is a DC insider, he keeps saying “I helped balance the budget” but it is a DC LIE, our debt went UP, under his “balanced budget” he uses accounting tricks, and believes in CAP AND TAX for heavens sake!
Report Post »amrcn
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:36pmGingrich and Perry have evidently sold out our great country to the invading illegal stinking brown cockroaches so Cain still has my vote. GO TEA.
Report Post »Br@dley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:41pmthe tea party was originally a ron paul movement BEFORE the neocons in the GOP co-opted it, when it was truely a grassroots movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGB8BeUWtwA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG_OwTthS-E
go tea indeed, that does not mean herman cain though.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:13pmWhat does it take for people to get this thru their heads. Newt Gingrich IS A MEMBER OF THE CLUB OF ROME! Club of Rome equals the end of the United States of America. He’s a smooth talking left wing reject, no different than Mitt Romney.
Look at this jerks track record. He’s even worse than Obama. At least with Obama we are getting EXACTLY what he said he was going to give, when right wing fruits refused to listen that fundamental transformation meant exactly that. The Nations Charter and the Constitution ARE our political fundamental foundations!
I’m telling you all again. Gingrich is the communism of technocracy of the NWO and the end of America. Gingrich and Romney are both there to destroy any hope freedom and liberty desirous people have. Vote for them, and you are fools of the highest magnitude.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:14pm@ BeHeardAmerica
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:20pm
Don’t mind all the crazy comments about Newt.. He’s the best and brightest in the pack. He’s made mistakes but listen to what he says. He understand the debt. He understand border and he understand economics 101. Go Newt 2012!
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Living your life in abject ignorance must make your mommy proud that she raised an idiot.
Br@dley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:20pm@10th
true, but you don’t have to be so confrontational. i wish these people would wake up too, but media propaganda is at an all time high and insults will not help the cause of liberty.
ron paul 2012
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:24pmNewt Gingrich is a NEOCON, ALSO KNOWN AS A LIBERAL.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:38pm@ Br@dley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:20pm
@10th
true, but you don’t have to be so confrontational. i wish these people would wake up too, but media propaganda is at an all time high and insults will not help the cause of liberty.
ron paul 2012
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I know that I’m confrontational, and from my calculations our willingness to be appeasers is exactly why right thinking people have become deluded. Simply stating the evil these people represents goes in one ear and out the other. It’s time to make a stand, and if people are offended by the truth and run off pouting, what has been lost? Nothing. The day of, come, and let us reason together is gone.
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:11pmAnd there’s this:
Report Post »Newt Gingrich: Free-trade Kool-Aid drinker
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=371329
teamarcheson
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:21pmLeave Us Newt
You have not changed one bit since 94. You are a RINO who Democrats despise. Maybe Hillary will ask you to help her campaign.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:24pmThe Gingrich Amnesty By By Mark Krikorian
Report Post »Missed the debate because of wrestling practice, but it’s hardly surprising that Newt would support amnesty for illegal aliens. After the Pelosi global-warming ad and Dede Scozzafava and “right-wing social engineering,” is it any surprise he’d adopt the left’s line on immigration too? He earned a career grade of D from Numbers USA (they calculate back to 1989). Heck, even Barbara Boxer has a career grade of D+….
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/283932/gingrich-amnesty-mark-krikorian
Oh well...
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:59pmFunny. Ron Paul was the original Tea Party in 2007? Really?? That‘s funny since Rick Santelli didn’t make the rant that started it until February 19, 2009. http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=1039849853
Report Post »Br@dley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:25pmyes. you‘re link didn’t help whatever it was you were trying to prove either.
it’s so easily provable you can google
“tea party 2007”
“ron paul tea party”
“original tea party movement”
i know glenn probably does a lot of your thinking for you, but he at least encourages you to “do your own homework”.
WOW, just wow…
Report Post »Br@dley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:26pm*your link
Report Post »Red Eagle
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:34pmI think you should all read Newt’s plan before judging it, it is not amnesty, it is common sense: http://www.newt.org/solutions/immigration
Report Post »As for the other attacks against Newt, I recommend you read this: http://www.newt.org/answers
KTsayz
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:33pm@Stuck in Ca “After the Pelosi global-warming ad and Dede Scozzafava…”
But who did Newt ‘Dede’ first? You guessed it – RON PAUL!! In 1995, Newt made a deal with a democrat, Laughlin, with a seat on a committee if Laughlin became a Repub, so he did. In ‘96, Ron Paul decided to run for Congress again because he thought his Constitution-driven policies would be heard in a Repub controlled Congress. So what did Newt do? Newt backed the democrat-turncoat OVER the Constitutionalist. Newt went so far as to not only get the entire RNC to back the democRAT, but even asked ex-prez Bush to join the fight AGAINST Ron Paul!
But Liberty won the day and Ron Paul beat the dem in a run-off.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n5_v13/ai_19092301/
Newt has never been a true patriot as he has surrendered America’s sovereignty through treaties like NAFTA, GATT and the WTO.
Report Post »Like all snakes, Newt knows how to talk the supposed ‘good’ talk, but his forked tongue hisses perpetual lies. Like his buddy Toffler, Newt believes our Constitution is outdated and it needs to be buried with our founding parents. Read Tofler‘s Letter to our Founding Parents if you don’t believe me. Newt not only wrote the forward in Toffler’s The Third Wave where that letter is found, but recommended all of Congress read it.
Only one man is principled. Only one man is honorable. Only one man stands with our Constitution.
President Ron Paul 2012
cous1933
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:04pmKTSAYZ,
Excellent info and link. More evidence that Newt, like Romney and Perry, is not a real conservative but is simply a political wheeler-dealer. It’s unfortunate that so many “conservatives” either fail or refuse to see how phony these three are.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:12pmYes, Cous, it’s called VETTING! Something most people are too lazy and stupid to do. It’s how we got Obummer. Hyper-vigilance is what’s called for for this election. Leave no stone unturned. Look as far back as possible for voting records and the reasons why the candidate voted as he/she did. Do not allow flip-slops to cloud your judgement. If they flipped once, they’ll flip again once president and all the power of the presidency is behind them.
Report Post »Look for integrity, consistency and love for our founding principles. And there is only one candidate that is true and has been true to his word, Ron Paul. President Ron Paul 2012
iwalkalone
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:59pm@10th amendment is right! dont back down 10th, stay confrontational! The luke warm must be spewed out. PC cowardice has gotten in this mess. Groveling, scraping, kowtowing, surrendering, compromising, inoffensive comments are signs of weakness and insecurity. Refusing to stand up as men makes you little boys. Disrespected by your children and women makes you less than a man in their eyes. IT IS A TACTIC PROGRESSIVES ARE USING TO NEYTER US ALL.
Report Post »Lomzaman3
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:09pmprofessional politicians need the 18% or so that the anchor babies represent to stay in office. That is why.
Report Post »arx
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:22pmEvery one of us came from somewhere else, unless you are one of the two full blooded american indians left. My ancestors came through Ellis Island, legally. But it‘s not like we haven’t laid out the welcome sign with all the screwed up policies we had over the last how many decades. Can you say for sure your grams and gramps would have went through the immigration BS (that now goes on for years) if there was a well known and used alternative available? I can’t. There is justice, but Christ also taught forgiveness.
Secure the border. Cut ALL freeloading programs. Prosecute employers who hire illegals. End the automatic citizenship for babies born to illegals. Give ALL illegals 3 months to leave, but open the immigration process to allow non-diseased, non-criminal, english speakers to attain citizenship without all the current BS. Make one exception to the criminal background check…people like grandpa who once broke the law but complied with the 3 month order may return provided they pay a fine and serve community service. Then let him be.
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”. These words are large threads in the fabric of charity and freedom that made this country great. I have to shake my head at some here cheering what was done to US citizens of Japanese ancestry during WWII and still advocating tearing families and communites apart. Your hate and intolerance couldn’t have built this country, and you are no patriot.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 4:24am@Arx That is such cr@p. I didn’t come from anywhere else. I was BORN here in America! And so were my parents! And their parents before them. And if you want to get technical, even the American Indians came from somewhere else. It’s America that courses through my blood. I have no feeling for anywhere but my homeland. I don’t even hyphenate myself like so many who call themselves Italian-Americans or Mexican-Americans or African-Americans. That is rubbish.
Report Post »You break the law, you break the law. Christ never said it was ok to break the law.
And your attempt at an analogy between American citizens of Japanese ancestry and border jumping Mexicans is nonsense.
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 7:04amHeard today on FNC that Sheriff Joe Arpaio was going to indorse the open-border, amnesty-supporting, Dream Act-signing, compassionate conservative, phoney Rick Perry.
Report Post »Maybe if you disagree with Joe on this choice, you’d want to let him know:
http://www.defendsheriffjoe.com/Contact.html
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 7:48amMemo to Gingrich: ‘Red card’ is path to amnesty by Tom Tancredo
If Newt Gingrich is a “policy wonk” as his friends proclaim, he is a very lazy one. He should have read the Kriebel Foundation’s “Red Card Solution” before endorsing it as a non-amnesty solution to our immigration conundrum…
Report Post »http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=371377
V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 8:38amOh well…
You are delusional if you think Rick Santelli’s market floor tantrum started the modern day Tea Party movement. Alex Jones and Ron Paul was all over that way before the MSM decided to catch up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bNiDx7qTjA
Try AGAIN!!!
TEA!
Report Post »Roywalling
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 9:48amvotes
Report Post »BenInNY
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 10:21am@BR@DLEY In my area the tea party was here, then the campaign for liberty people started showing up and trying to bring us into their movement. Made a general nuisance of themselves in many cases, too, to the point that a bunch of us moved on to less candidate-centric pastures. Created a splinter effect. At this point the remaining active groups are 9/12ers and RPers. Definitely not one and the same. Extremely sick of the C4L people claiming they somehow started it all, when the only tenuous lineage is some event that shares the “tea party” moniker.Santelli and Beck’s speeches, etc are what got most of us going where I am, aside from the obvious crap policies.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 1:48pm@BeNinny
Glenn and Rick got the idea from Paul……Have the HONOR to admit it….
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/12/ron_pauls_tea_p.html
Report Post »ballsofFe
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 3:01pm@ The10thammendment – just shut up.
Report Post »Kinnison
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 4:06pmOf course the border can be secured. Prior to the collapse of the USSR and reunification the East Germans/Russians secured the inter-German border for 30 years. The border between the Koreas has been secured from both sides since 1953. High-tech is not needed. A simple fence, GUARDED, can keep illegals and drugs out of this country. We have desert-trained troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan who could easily secure our border so long as they are given reasonable Rules of Engagement(ROE), but so far the National Guard units assigned to border security have not been able to carry live ammunition or apprehend and hold illegals, so their presence has been a waste of effort and money.
Report Post »arx
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 8:59pmKtsayz. I didn’t say anything about name hyphenations. In fact I think it is ridiculous at best and disgusting at worst and agree it is rubbish in all cases. I never said Christ ok’d breaking the law. I said some people deserve second chances, and the world would be a pretty horrible place if there was no forgiveness. I never attempted an analogy between the Japanese after WWII and the current border jumpers. I stated my opinion on someone else’s previous post, saying the way the U.S. treated citizens of Japanese ancestry was ok with them. You should slow down and actually read someone’s post before you start swinging away.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 9:24pmHere are just a few things I read from Newt’s immigration stance on his site. He wants to find a way to let illegals stay here if they have deep ties and haven’t committed a crime. This sound like the same nonsense backdoor amnesty Obama has implemented with the selective immigration enforcement. “Haven’t committed a crime” If you are illegally you have already committed a crime, what don’t people get about this. Then as I continued to read he wants to drop H1B visa quotas. This means, prepare for US citizen unemployment to skyrocket because businesses can get cheap labor from all around the world to take your place and immigrate to the US. He wants to make it easier and expand the investor visa program. Yes, that’s what we need, make it easier for foreigners to buy the US, our land, our resources and our businesses. This is exactly what the US government should do right? Fight hard for Foreigners to get rich and prosper while Americans are hurting and out of a job. When is our corrupt government going to fight for the American people instead of foreigners many of whom hate us or are just using us until we are broke and worthless to them.
If you want the real facts on Gingrich go to this NumbersUSA article on Newt’s immigration facts.
Report Post »https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/november-23-2011/gingrich-shows-compassion-illegal-aliens-he-helped-stay-rooted-us.ht
Yoda1940
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 9:30pmActually, Newt’s ideas on immigration are a refreshing way to handle the situation. Finely a Republican has an intelligent way to handle a tough problem. It does the rest of us not good to universally punish everyone in this country who got here without “legal” procedures. Maybe they made a mistake a while back, but they have made it as right as they could without tearing up their family. More power to Newt! He has the best chance of becoming President this time around, and it would be in the best interest of the country.
Report Post »Cheers”
Yoda1940
His_Way
Posted on November 28, 2011 at 2:42am@yoda
You really sound completely clueless of the OVERWHELMING impact ILLEGAL immigration is having on our BROKE cities, states and country. Our schools, our hospitals and law enforcement is overwhemed with the extra burden of crime and costs. ENOUGH already. It was wrong when they jumped the border and is wrong now for these non citizen law breakers to still be here. Here in southern CA they keep flooding in ILLEGALLY and businesses just keep right on hiring their half price under the table labor – no problema.
@ kick- good post.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on November 28, 2011 at 10:26am@PigPen
The only foreigner I trust is the one willing to fight for the USA. They put themselves in the path of maiming and death. They earn US citizenship.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 28, 2011 at 7:21pmDismayed Veteran
So what happens when the USA is fighting its own citizens, and there’s a foreigner desperate for citizenship behind that rifle pointed at Americans…?
Report Post »OTBoxer
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:56pmRon Paul in 2012 means: best chance for making American Revolution 2.0 a smooth and peaceful one. (If interested as to how, see HansHoppe.com.) Go Ron, go!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:48pmNice commercial. Do I get a Ron Paul botton if I send away for an eyebrow toupee? Lol.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:01pm“eyebrow toupee” wuhahahahahahaha now that’s funny, Cain is browless…. wuhahahahahahaha Both looks like freaks.
Report Post »EM1956
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:54pmNewt is the man this time around. Romney had his chance but bowed to McCain. Romney doesn’t have it in him to fight! He’ll try to take the high road not realizing that any road is higher than the road Obama is on. Obama has 1 Trillion $…, the media (including FNC), HATEFUL, SPITEFUL, GODLESS 527s, and Romney will fold like a lawn chair. He’ll be a door mat. That is why the media is pushing him on us now. That is how we got stuck with McCain too.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:41pmOnly until he get elected, then he will be the same progressive/RINO republican.
Report Post »gogogoff
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:43pmEm, he ducked out, because Huck, McCain, and Ron Paul, all worked together to get him out.
And he started fighting to get Conservative seats in Congress, he did not coward away.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:55pmNo amnisty (whayever he calls it). No Newt.
Report Post »CaliforniaD
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:45pmHow can anyone say “the media is pushing” Romney? I’ve followed Romney DAILY in the media via Google alerts for 5 years. Anti-Romney articles are easily 95% of articles. The DNC started all the negative propaganda on Romney while he was still governor and a bright star for the GOP.
Report Post »Jamesjim
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:52pmNewt’s plan would devastate every gang in America, while satisfying the need to act humanly.
Report Post »Our court’s would also be free of Liberal anti-border control nonsense cases.
There is so much to be gained here. Think of it! We’ll have our America Back!
OlefromMN
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:46pmNewt’s got a tightrope to walk on this subject. I agree that we can’t just arbitrarily rip families apart and deport all illegals at once, but he needs to make it clear no-one will gain citizenship without coming through the front door. All illegals should be strongly encouraged to self-deport.
Report Post »krjones
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:59pmWhy can we deport them all?
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:01pm@ KRJONES,
We are broke last I checked. Deportation costs money. I say make the “environment” hostile to their staying and they will self-deport.
Report Post »cwollenberg
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:49pmExcuse me, but I think it may just cost us a heck of a lot more to keep them here!! Our states are going broke!
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:57pmI like the self-deport plan. Seems Alabama is using it to her advantage. And Ron Paul‘s ’end the welfare state’ plan would see the bulk of the illegals leave.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:45pmI don’t like it either, but realistically any candidate that promises to deport 12 to 20 million illegal Mexicans is not only lying but politically dead as well.
Report Post »cyclops
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:39pmGreat comeback……
Report Post »Br@dley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:43pmplease don’t be decieved. this man is as progressive as they come.
Health-Insurance Mandate:
Flip: “Personal responsibility extends to the purchase of health insurance. Citizens should not be able to cheat their neighbors by not buying insurance, particularly when they can afford it, and expect others to pay for their care when they need it.” — June 2007
Flop: “I am against any effort to impose a federal mandate on anyone because it is fundamentally wrong and I believe unconstitutional.” — May 16, 2011
Cap-and-Trade:
Flip: “I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.” — February 2, 2007
Flop: “A carbon cap and trade system … would lead to corruption, political favoritism, and would have a huge impact on the economy.” — April 21, 2008
Climate Change:
Flip: “I think is that the evidence is sufficient that we should move towards the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon-loading of the atmosphere.” — April 10, 2007
Flop: “I actually don’t know whether global warming is occurring.” — November 8, 2011
Paul Ryan’s Budget Plan:
Flip: “I don’t think right-wing social engineering is any more desirable than left-wing social engineering… [Paul Ryan
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:28pm@Bradley
I too unlike the supposed conservatives who worship Gingrich have seen the hypocrisy that surrounds Newt Gingrich’s entire career. This guy is no conservative and he has zero regard for the constitution. He is driven by Power,money and status.
Below is another link to an Op Ed piece in the Wall street journal from a few years back where Gingrich is encouraging all Republicans to support Medicaid Part D. He worked on this issue with his 37 million dollar think tank.
One thing that I will find very telling in this election is who Palin will endorse. If she endorses Gingrich it will clearly tell me that she is not true to her conservative values and that she is just another political schill that can be bought for the right price.
http://capitalgainsandgames.com/blog/bruce-bartlett/2423/how-newt-gingrich-added-16-trillion-national-debt
Report Post »Love_John_Galt
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 7:28amAmerica will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln.
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:36pmNewt _____ The smartest man in the room. The best debater on the Planet. Man of thousands of Ideas. The best orator. The man who balanced the Federal Budget. The man who takes on MSM. Blah Blah Blah. Newt , you suffer from a severe case of “ Oral Diarrhea ”. How can you bee so smart and stupid @ the same time. You are a Panderer , you always were. Go away and take the backstabbing Bachman with you. The more you say the more you expose yourself for what you really are a RINO that has Zero chance of beeing elected.
Report Post »manjodad
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:54pmAs time goes on, we all change our positions as better answers come along. There isn‘t anyone out there who hasn’t changed their positions except for Odrama who once a socialist always a socialist. I don’t want a perfect President, I want one who is willing to change course from time to time as long as he contiues to be headed in the RIGHT direction.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:02pmManjo, you are being deceived by spin, talking points and soundbites. Look at the records. If you are too lazy to look up the records, please do not vote. Otherwise we’ll end up with Obambi or his Rethuglikan mirror image.
Report Post »manjodad
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 3:43pm@commonsense. Nowhere do I say the Dr. Paul has unconstitutional views. What I am saying is that if he thinks that we have stepped all over the Constitution, then he should be taking all these missteps to the Supreme Court. If he really had the courage of his convictions, he wouldn’t be running for President but would be challenging all these unconstitutional edicts and acts before the Supreme Court, the arbiter to determine all things Constitutional. And, I love your distinction between isolationist and non-interventionist. Kinda like, we are not retreating, we are just attacking from a different direction. Lovely!!!!!
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:36pmNewt may be “the smartest guy in the room” in an educational setting but i find that many of his views simply are not practical in the real world.
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:30pmWe are NOT going to find a person who we agree with on every issue. We must elect the closest we can but we can’t throw every one to the curb. I think Newt is the closest we are going to get to perfect. We have to have someone who will blow Obama out of the water and the ONLY one so far is Gingrich. This is not going to be an easy election nor a landslide. Don’t think for a sec the left is not going to cheat again in 2012. WE MUST HAVE THE BEST WE CAN! Go with Newt and we can win. Go with any other and we just may lose again!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:36pmThen why not Ron Paul? He is the closest to a CONSTITUTIONALIST you will ever find. I know, I know…You would rather have a Progressive RINO wouldn’t you?
Report Post »dirtypolitics
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:42pmI completely agree.
Can you imagine throwing out 12 million illegal immigrants? I can.
Crying and depressed family members and friends, displaced lives, VERY HAPPY Democrats and Socialists and big time coverage from the Lame Stream Media.
We can be perfectionists and throw out each and every illegal aliens even those who has been here for 25 years but be ready to disband the idea of Conservativism and the Republican party.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:46pmIf a man will not stand up for his Country, he should move…I hope you like it in Mehico. Tell me why we cant send them all home and make them come in the front door? Liberals and limp willed progressives have brainwashed your mind. You wimpy people make me sick as the ilegals.
Report Post »manjodad
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:51pmYou Pauly Parrots have got to give it up. Paul positions go from some sane to some loony and unfortunately, he has more loony then sane. However, he has the vote of all the young college crowd who are not yet dry behind the ears but love what he says especially when he starts talking like the true isolationist that he is.
Report Post »convictobama
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:02pmRon Pauls foreign policy is “whack” and he doesnt stand a chance.
Report Post »dimitrisokolov
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:30pmRon Paul’s foreign policy is not “whack”. It is the only foreign policy that makes sense. What has the US gotten for invading Iraq & Afghanistan? We have achieved nothing and wasted a trillion dollars. US troops in Europe, South Korea, Japan and elsewhere are a waste of money. These countries have plenty of money to defend themselves. Why should the US pay to protect the world? We are broke and our military spending is one of the main causes. Now the idiots want to bomb Iran. We have complete amateurs in charge. If they bomb Iran it will be WW3. Iran will close the Straight of Hormuz and oil prices will hit $200 a barrel easily. Hamas & Hezbollah will overrun Israel and Egypt would probably attack Israel too. Iran would fire cruise missiles into Israel as well. Syria would attack Israel too. Russia & China may not just sit on the sidelines either. Stop the madness and bring US troops home to protect our own border. Any GOP candidate other than Ron Paul will keep wasting money protecting the world and getting the US involved in wars we don’t need to be in. If you want that, then go ahead and vote RHINO again. You will lose independents like me. I voted for Obama because I hated that RHINO McCain. You pick anyone but Ron Paul and I’ll vote for Obama again out of spite. If the GOP is dumb enough to keep picking idiot candidates, then they deserve to lose, no matter how horrible Obama is.
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:48pmDoggy,
Ron Paul is a looney tune on two feet! Period! UNELECTABLE Sorry to be so blunt!
Report Post »manjodad
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:19pm@ commonsense. To start with we can discuss Paul’s foreign policy. Were it up to him we would be total isolationists and would close all our overseas bases. Logistically, if we needed to defend the US from some foreign enemy, we would be back where we were at the start of WWII. Likewise we would be at the mercy of any timpot dictator who desired to make a name for himself. Further, if Dr. Paul and his Pauly Parrots were really so interested in the Constitution, he would be at the Supreme Court, the arbiters of all things constitutional rather then lamenting how we are not following the Constitution. The founders wanted the Constitution to serve as a guide knowing that all thing could not be itemized and if Dr. Paul feels we have trampled so much on the Constitution, then running for President is not the way to solve that problem but rather taking those concerns to SCOTUS.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:44pmGingrich is light years from being the best candidate in the GOP field. He is a huge progressive who has no respect for the constitution. Gingrich is a career politician and Washington insider who has profited from big government. Do you really think this guy is going to limit the powers and scope of government? His record does not indicate that behavior.
Gingrich voted against e-verify in the late 90′s. Gingrich prevented the mandatory requirement of companies to utilize e-verify.
Gingrich voted for the 86 amnesty bill. Gingrich also worked at Heritage on other amnesty type solutions.
GIngrich promoted the NATIONAL Health individual mandate for 20 years.
Gingrich was all in on cap and trade and subsidies for Green technology and solutions.
Gingrich voted for the creation of the Department of Education.(one of the few Republicans)
Gingrich is for the National Endowment for the Arts.
Gingrich strongly promoted Medicaid Part D, as evident in his Op Ed below.
Gingrich ripped Paul Ryan’s budget plan this year as social engineering.
By the way it is on the record that Gingrich said his favorite president was FDR and Woodrow Wilson.
With all do respect if Gingrich is the best the GOP has then they might as well rename the party as the Progressive Party. Gingrich is all about Big government solutions. Why would anyone expect anything different since he unlike Cain and Romney have never spent decades growing and developing businesses in the private sec
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:50pmNewts strong endorsement of Medicaid part D,I neglected to include this with my post above.
http://capitalgainsandgames.com/blog/bruce-bartlett/2423/how-newt-gingrich-added-16-trillion-national-debt
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:13pmI am not a Paulite. I just know what the man stands for. You turds dont know the first thing about the Constitution.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:15pmLIBERALS: I agree with you. Not one of them is perfect. And I would never vote for Ron Paul. He doesn‘t have a clue about Iran’s objectives. We’d have WW3 in no time. Some of his other positions are also out there. I’d be very afraid for our country if he were elected.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:18pm@ManJoDad
@Liberal
@Convict
You do realize intervention is progressive foreign policy don’t you?
You do realize policing the world is Progressive foreign policy don’t you?
You do realize your views are progressive don’t you?
Intervention=Progressive=Aggressive
Non-Intervention=Constitutional=Defensive
At least have the honor and integrity to admit you are progressive in these views…. And that these views have led to the problems of today as Glenn has shown us…..
Newt is for amnesty….He is progressive as well and flip flopped like Romney.
Newt Flip Flops
-For cap n trade, now against it
Report Post »-For mandated health insurance, now against it
-For treating terrorists like criminal, now against it
-For “Cost saving end of life treatments, now against it
-For foreign aid, now against it
-Ignored withdrawal from UN bill as speaker, now for it
-Ignored bill to audit Fed as speaker, now for it
-Supports a North American Union with Canada and Mexico
-Wants to “fundamentally transform the Government”
For AMNESTY
manjodad
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:25pmIn thinking about it, I agree with Newt. He is talking about a very small select group of illegals and they are not murderers or bank robbers or guilty of committing any other heinous crime. We have to do something about the illegal problem and this is a way of keeping the best and most industrious. That said however, I think that Newt is very specific about what we need to do first before this end step. If someone has a better plan, let them come forth with it. They all say no amnesty, but then do not have any coherent idea how to handle the 10 to 12 million that are already here. Every candidate wants to secure the borders, fine enployers and deport the bad actors. That still leaves us with a lot of illegals and no other candidate has a clue about what to do with them. At least Newt is trying to do something, and that with those who are the most industrious and law abiding.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:31pmThey still don’t care about laws. They broke the law in coming here illegally. Imagine what would happen if we didn’t do anything. Three quarters of Mexico would be over here over populating the U.S. as they are now. In ten years they would be the dominate race in the U.S. As we have all seen how well they took of their country. I am for not breaking up the family. They should all go back and make their own country better.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:03pmI’m against illegal immigration, but let’s be realistic. No one is going to deport 12 million Mexicans, ever. The hardest a** writing on here couldn’t pull it off. Let’s face it, they’re here and they will stay here. The best we can hope for is to seal the border so tight a rabbit can’t get through and deport the ones who commit crimes, which will be a whopping big number. I agree that Newt is the candidate with the best chance to win. As much as I like some of Ron Paul’s domestic policies he has no chance whatsoever of winning. Remember the mushroom cloud ads the Dems ran against Goldwater back in 64? Multiply that by a thousand if Ron Paul wins the nomination. I think Obummer will win anyway no matter who the Republican candidate is, but hope springs eternal.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:12pmIt is this type of rhetoric that Newt is using as well as the other crony politicians use, that encourage illegals to stay in the U.S. or to cross the border in hopes of a repeat of the Reagan amnesty bill. The problem is that the politicians like Newt and McCain, are more concerned with the latino vote that the rights of legal U.S. citizens.There are reports however, that show that even the legal latino U.S. citizens feel amnesty is wrong as well.
There is a very obvious answer to the illegal immigration problem and that is to enforce the border,remove all magnets, mandatory e-verify,stiff penalties for companies who hire illegals,no federal funding for cities and states who create sanctuary environments, and the most effective answer of them all is to enforce current immigration law. Legislation should also be introduced that will eliminate anchor babies.
When the authorities discover someone with an illegal status the authorities will start the deportation process for this individual. There is no need for the families to become separated…they can all return to their company of origin together.
Once the laws are enforced and the benefits and magnets removed, illegals will probably migrate back to their homelands. If they wish to become U.S. citizens they can get in line like everyone else.
I’m sorry but I am just one of those really mean conservatives with no heart.
Report Post »blazingaway
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:19pmThe fact that the people in Washington keep playing games with immigration to get votes is the insanity of all of this. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHY WE HAVEN“T OR SEEMINGLY CAN”T come up with a workable plan!
The bottom line is that whatever we do needs to be as inflexible as is it flexible. In other words if we extend people the opportunity to come here as workers, guests, or to become citizens then there needs to be CLEAR and ENFORCEABLE RULES, which simply state if you break them you are out of here and if you come back you will be subject to a work program to pay for the costs of dealing with your criminal activity. Those who are here either need to make a choice to become one status or another given certain conditions or be deported back to their homeland. ENOUGH OF THIS CRAP ALREADY. This crap exists only because politicians profit from it as criminal elements subject good people to human trafficking, prostitution, drugs, money laundering, gun running and crimes and crimes and more crimes which are far worse than those who are here not committing other crimes besides being here illegally because WE THE PEOPLE can’t find a reasonable way for them to be here legally …. HOW “F”ing STUPID ARE YOU AMERICA?
Report Post »loiloi
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:16pmJust a qualification note. I am to the right of Atilla the Hun. However, Newt is only being practical. Think about it, if the US started kicking out families, particularly those that have been here for many years, How long do you think that would last when the Media [ including Fox] shows videos of small children wailing as they are forced onto a plane/Bus, whatever. About 60 seconds Conservative is also suppose to be “practical”.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:24pmYup… And hey you never know you might convert some new Latino voters to our side . Many are hard working family oriented religious people to begin with.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:25pmHe certainly has a point and those that think someone, anyone, is going to come along and throw them all out are living in fantasyland and so it makes sense to find a way to lead them to legality and onto citizenship.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:40pmWhat the hell part do you not undersatnd about ILLEGAL. Either we have laws or we don’t.. What say you? My brother has been a drug dealer for 25 + years…Ok for him to continue without going to jail? Think before you speak.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:08pmAs a Georgian, Newt lost my vote in his last debate. It seems both parties are 1 2 3 ready, lets give amnesty to any and all illegals. Seems quite convenient all the brilliant Themrats and RINOs in Washington can’t remember June 17 1954 removable of illegal immigrants.
Eisenhower had no problem!
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
Pick ups would be easy as 1 2 3
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2 have agents located at emergency rooms
2 have agents located at court houses.
YepImaConservative
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:45pm>LOILOI. I‘m glad to see you are someone who hasn’t let the incessant Ron Paul commercials here on the BLAZE get in the way of your common sense. I’m no fan of illegals and rewarding illegal behavior, but there is a humane way to handle this situation if we are serious about it.
We’ve seen the chaos of rounding up millions of people before…
Report Post »cwollenberg
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:29pmCain’s immigration stance is Secure the border by all means, enforce the laws already on the books, clear the red tape and Beuracracy to make path to citizenship easier. A form of e-verfy already exists in our laws! Enforce it with heavy fines to employers who hire illegals! Eliminate the welfare programs that the government provides to them. Cain is not talking about rounding up the millions of illegals and throwing them out of the country! If these people know they will not find work, free education or free healthcare, the will self deport! Millions have left during this recession because they cannot find work. I think Cain’s approach is humane and follows our existing laws.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:16pmNewt is old school RINO .. we need new people .. Bachmann, Santorum, Cain … new blood, new ideas, like FOLLOW the Constititution!
TEA!
Report Post »chiefparker
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:32pmIt is a rhino idea to heavily fine those companies for hiring.
Report Post »If it’s these types of incentives that bring them here, the same is true for government sanctioned programs like the Dream acts at federal and state levels.
These concepts a completely convoluted. On one hand (the governments) they say, come get a free education, on the other hand, they say, don’t anybody hire them…
Baddoggy
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:43pmFollow the Constitution? Then you should have named Ron Paul. He is the closest to a Constitutionalist that you will find in this group….But you really don’t want a Constitutionalist do you??? I can answer…No you don’t. You would rather live in denial of what it means to live by the Constitution. You have no idea. If you did you would have named Ron Paul ONLY. Wake up and smell the coffee.
Report Post »Br@dley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:45pmron paul is the only one who respects the constitution. have you even researched the 3 you support?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:58pmI should have known the Paulies would come out .. no I don’t want Paul .. I want someone who understands that the world is a dangerous place. Ron Paul .. should get out of the way for his son Rand .. I think he has a more realistic understanding of the world today.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:52pmI will for sure vote for Bachmann or Santorum.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:14pmOr like Sarah Palin in 2016.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:15pmStill gonna vote for him if he gets the nomination …and smile while I do it.
Report Post »SkyPainter
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:35pmI much rather vote for a can of dog food than vote for Obama. Indeed, I would vote for whoever the Republican nominee ends up being nominated. However… I am down to Cain, Bachmann or Santorum for the nomination… and lets make clear that poll don’t mean crap. Lets have the process work its way through and see who ends up being nominated.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:02pmI agree … anyone but Obama … that said I do hope that we can do better and “newer” than Newt.
Report Post »chiefparker
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:14pmI understand his position, however kicking the buck down to the lowest common denominator is as absurd as Ron Paul.
Report Post »Shifting the responsibility of policing immigration onto the hiring staff of organizations is— well—
Ahhh–hmmm– (making up a new word) ‘Overdelegating’
Are you kidding me? What your saying is the State of Arizona cannot police it’s borders but the hiring staffs of private organizations is to be our first line of weeding out… Uhh?
chazzyok
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:13pmAlthough I believe in legal immigration only, Im afraid that I must compromise on this latest statement. I agree.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:28pmThere would be no way you could implement his purity test…..
Report Post »PhunkDaPhish
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:13pmCain may have made some gaffes and misstatements, but this guy is a RHINO. Just when I think I may be able to vote for him, he says something stupid. He’s not the smartest guy in the room. He’s the smartest RHINO in the room.
I hope Cain can get it together.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:21pmGonna do this even though I sound like a douche bag for doing it but I see this a lot. It isn‘t like spelling the animals name rhino it’s Republican In Name Only ….RINO. I know I’m an A-Hole… I Apologize.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:21pmUse your noggin. What kind of chance do you think Newt would have if he said he would deport every illegal in the country? The chance of a snowball in hell, that’s what.
Report Post »PhunkDaPhish
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 1:12am@drattastic
Nah..my mistake pal. I had a late night and was still feeling a little sleepy.
Meant to say RINO..but you know, I was picturing a large lumbering beast that likes to roll around in dirt when I was wrote the message. So, I was not 100% in the wrong. ;)
Report Post »ares338
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:11pmI don’t agree with this. We Americans don’t get to obey just the parts of the laws we agree with. If you are here illegally, out you go no questions.
Report Post »PaBowHunter
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:11pmI hate to say it, but I agree with Newt. If someone has been here for 20 plus years and has obeyed the law, paid taxes and isn’t a financial burden on our society then they should be given a path to acquire citizenship. And if they fail to get it done, then they must leave.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:22pmWhat do we do with other criminals who manage to evade the law once we catch them. They are punished accordingly.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:30pmI agree with everything but the citizenship part ,legal status of some kind but not citizenship. Their punishment for breaking the law to begin with no voting rights.
Report Post »jeepertrains
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:15pmHow can one be “law obeying” and an “illegal alien” at the same time. Or is it that if you have not been caught abusing young boys for 20 years that you should be found innocent.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:08pmYou are wrong Gingrich, and wrong by a lot. Should we start telling bank robbers it’s okay for them to rob banks? Murderers to kill.
ILLEGAL MEANS ILLEGAL. Break the law, pay the price. Gingrich and all these metaethical morons of tolerance can eat crap and die.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:05pmMight as well bring in the grandparents too, they can get here just in time to collect social security, who cares ? Its all monopoly money anyway, right ?
Report Post »Large Eagle
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:02pmIf we have to stay status quo – Let it be Newt
Report Post »netmail
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:33pmAll the civilized world knows to do anymore is appease bad behavior. I think Newt wants to actually DO something to manage the situation rather than do nothing (as we have historically done) and then watch our society ultimately fall in to chaos because of it. If solutions to problems given by candidates don’t come across as extremely tough, then they are simply lying and pandering to gain favor with voters. Also, if solutions are unrealistic (‘just send them all back’), that too is just pandering. Break in to deep, intelligent conversations regarding immigration Newt. I, for one, will listen.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:01pmA path to legality ,,, which means a path to welfare benefits, that is after all , the NEW AMERICAN DREAM…
Report Post »mikey01h
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 2:10pmHow very very true… buying votes with YOUR money!!!
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