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Girl Scouts Book Refers Readers to Liberal Group Media Matters to Clear Up ‘Media Misinformation’

Girl Scouts MEdia Book Encourages Girls to Visit Media Matters Web SiteIn 2010, the Girl Scouts of the USA published a book called “MEdia.” The publication, designed for girls in grades six through eight, is a guide that apparently offers insight into how young people should process and understand the media messages surrounding them.

Considering the pervasive nature of popular media, this seems like a viable tool. However, there’s a problem — the book refers young readers to Media Matters for America as one of the primary sources for debunking lies and deceit.

(Related: Watch the interview with the young girl scout who brought the story to our attention)

On the surface, “MEdia” seems like it’s an excellent resource (and in some ways maybe it is) that encourages self-reflection and skepticism — two very understandable and useful tenets. But on page 25 of the book, a very curious recommendation is given.

Girl Scouts MEdia Book Encourages Girls to Visit Media Matters Web Site

Under the headline, “Consider the Source,” text encourages girls to go to the George Soros-funded Media Matters for America web site to clear up any media misinformation they might encounter. It reads:

The Internet is a breeding ground for “urban legends,” which are false stories told as if true. Next time you receive a txt or e-mail about something that seems unbelievable, confirm it before you spread it.

The fact-checking site snopes.com investigates everything from urban legends to “news” articles and posts its findings. Media Matters for America (http://mediamatters.org/) gets the word out about media misinformation.

Here’s a copy of the page (see the Media Matters reference at the bottom):

 

Girl Scouts MEdia Book Encourages Girls to Visit Media Matters Web Site

Considering Media Matters’ far-left attachments and its less-than-objective views, one wonders why the book’s authors, Wendy Thomas Russell and Sarah Goodman, would include this as the sole source for getting “the word out about media misinformation.”

The Blaze called the Girl Scouts on Dec. 13 to ask about the book. Spokesperson Michelle Tompkins seemed very familiar with the controversy over the inclusion of Media Matters and said that the organization is re-printing the book this month.

During a follow-up call, Tompkins pledged to answer some e-mail questions we sent over. These particular questions sought answers about how Media Matters came to be placed in the book, who wrote the page that the reference appears on and what group, if any, will replace Media Matters once the new publications are released. To date, we have received no response despite a follow-up voicemail and e-mails.

This story was originally brought to us by Christy Volanski, a concerned parent and a former Girl Scouts leader. Her daughter, Sydney, a 15-year-old who served as a Girl Scout for eight years, left the organization in 2010 after she found that it embraces some controversial stances. Now, Sydney co-edits “Speak Now: Girl Scouts Website,” which provides plenty of other examples of what some may see as liberal bias.

Girl Scouts MEdia Book Encourages Girls to Visit Media Matters Web Site

Perhaps the Girl Scouts staffers were too busy to respond to us, but considering the fact that the Media Matters reference is, in itself, a form of misinformation, bias — potentially even indoctrination — we assumed that the book would no longer be on the market. But we were wrong.

Christy sent people out to purchase separate copies of the book earlier this month in Western Ohio, Cincinnati, Ohio, Jacksonville, Florida, Houston, Texas, and St. Louis, Missouri. In every instance, the version containing Media Matters was still on shelves. When asked about whether a new printed version was on the way, no one working at the stores where the books were purchased seemed to know anything about such a development.

Regardless of whether a new version is on its way, the fact that the Girl Scouts know that such an egregious “error” exists and are still selling the books to young people is concerning.

The back of “MEdia” reads, “Tired of not seeing your reality in the media around you? This journey is your chance to put some real ME in media. So get ready to shape media — for yourself, your community, the world!” But if young and impressionable readers are being sent to a wildly-partisan site like Media Matters, the book’s entire premise (i.e. truth) seems moot or even questionable.

The Blaze will be exploring other Girl Scouts literature in the coming weeks and we will keep you informed about the organization’s progress on replacing the Media Matters reference in the “MEdia” book.

Comments (437)

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  • elosogrande
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:38pm

    Simple – unless you’re a flaming liberal or communist, don’t allow your kids to join The Girl Scouts. Problem solved.

    Also, this sounds like a non-profit pushing a specific political adgenda. I think they should be fined and start paying taxes.

     
    • encinom
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 7:48pm

      Nothing like Beck and his legion (all twelve of them) attacking another American institution.

       
    • LA Doc
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:54am

      Hey Encinom, I’m not religious, nor do I give a rat’s behind about religious issues in politics, but this goes way beyond religion. The liberal philosophy is NOT something I want to indoctrinate my children with. The last thing I want to see is my children grow up becoming your typical whiny, spoiled, petty, entitled, crybaby, “victim,” liberals. I actually want them to be independent, strong, and open-minded, not some self-serving, self-righteous, 2-faced pseudointellectual preaching open-mindedness and tolerance, while stereotyping and generalizing against anyone who disagrees with them. You leftists are absolutely pathetic, and are no different than any religioius fanatic, or brainwashed collective-think sheep in N.Korea et al. In many ways, you are no different than the little hormonal girls you are trying to brainwash in the Girl Scouts. So go back to Media Matters, and stroke your insecure ego. After all, you bear no responsibility for anything you do, huh? It’s all the fault of someone else. Dingbat.

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    • DJ in AZ
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:55am

      An American Institution? The Girls Scouts? Ha, that‘s the best one I’ve heard in a while. Maybe their Girl Scout cookies are an American Institution, but the organization itself is a feminist breeding ground – a chip right off the old Equal Rights Amendment block from the ’70s. There are better ways for girls to spend their time than learning how to become a feminist.

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    • bw00ds
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:57am

      MAKE YOUR OWN THIN MINTS!!! EASY, SHMEEZY!

      Melt a box of Andes Mints or a bag of Andes Mints in a double boiler. Dip Ritz crackers in, place on wax paper, cool, eat. One box makes a sleeve of Ritz and one bag makes 1.5 to 2 sleeves of Ritz. We make these every year for Christmas and everybody *loves* them.

      Boycott GS cookies without the withdrawal.

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    • Zero1
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 12:06pm

      Girl Scouts used to be considered a fun group for girls to hang out, do community stuff.. Bringing Politics / Media into the mix is not needed.
      This shouldn’t be a way to mold child into thinking certain ways, its a group to Learn Friendship, working together, stuff like that

      http://www.dailyjobcuts.com

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    • Wu Ming Ren
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 12:36pm

      My daughters are now connected with the Young Eagles, and when they’re older, they’ll be joining the Civil Air Patrol. That’s a lot more character development than the Girl Scouts ever provided.

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    • 1babybogie4us
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 12:42pm

      ENCINOM, you are without a doubt one of the most vile, despicable, ignorant creatures to crawl out of the liberal/progressive/communist cesspool in a long time. Enjoy the view up your anus!

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    • jimtrees
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 12:59pm

      Send your daughters to private schools and you won’t have to worry about any of this liberal crap. If encinom’s mother did that, she would be a much happier person. When they hire teachers in these schools, they make it clear out of the gate on what will be taught.

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    • Country Publius
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 1:11pm

      @encinom

      Is your comment an effort to totally disregard what the article says, or are you merely suggesting that MediaMatters is actually an American Institution?

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    • ksferris
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 1:23pm

      There are good things and bad things on both sides of the ideological divide. What our kids need to learn is how to take the good and leave the bad. They need critical thinking skills.

      What concerns me is not that the book tells the girls to question everything they hear and see, because they should always do that. But, that the book presented such a lopsided “list” of references to do just that. If the authors were being truly honest with the girls they would have presented a list of at least two or three sources from both sides and labeled them as representing the left or right perspective.

      As parents we should be teaching our youth the same things, with the parameters of tolerance and spiritual discernment to help them in making life choices. We should be teaching them that not all people think alike and if we can’t convince them of something we feel strongly about; then we allow them to believe as they will and treat them with tolerance and respect. IE) stop with the name calling!

      No man made institution is immune from corruption, including the GSA. My daughter was a member before she got involved in 4H and horses. It was a good organization, but as the book points out, we must analyze all information and sort out the truth; even if the information comes to us from the GSA.

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    • concerned2
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 1:32pm

      Interesting Reading (worth the time):

      http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/229313/girl-scouts-gone-wild/kathryn-jean-lopez

      http://old.nationalreview.com/23oct00/lopez102300.shtml

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    • Bachsman
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 1:33pm

      ENCINOM I’m curious. How would you feel if some supposedly apolitical group your kids belonged to were told they should checkout their facts from FOX News or Rush Limbaugh or …? Personally I use http://www.snopes.com to checkout myths and urban legends and the entire world knows even THEY lean to the left (once you weed through their bias they actually have some good info.)

      And DJ IN AZ, I agree. The real institution here is the cookies. I don‘t have any daughters that age so I can’t deny joining. However, I will print this off and send it to my daughters who have daughters and suggest they not allow my grand-daughters to be polluted with this crap. And, I plan on printing off this page and every time a neighbor or coworker brings out their cookies I will hand them this page and put it next to the sales items at work. Funny thing about liberals. As much as they wail against the Free Market, they tend to lose their holier-than-thou attitude when you hit them in the pocketbook. In fact, if it weren’t for stealing via their marxist/socialist politicians, they would cease to exist. If any of the libs had to EARN what they have they’d all be destitute.

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    • concerned2
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 1:38pm

      Follow these two links to learn more about Girls Scouts and the many, many reasons not to participate:

      http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/229313/girl-scouts-gone-wild/kathryn-jean-lopez

      http://old.nationalreview.com/23oct00/lopez102300.shtml

      Interesting to say the least!

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 1:42pm

      I sent the GS this email
      I find it appalling that the Girl Scouts book refers to media matters (a
      very biased liberal media group) to clear up media misinformation. They
      are one of the main sources of media misinformation. Why would an
      organization such as the Girl Scouts seek to twist young girls minds and
      indoctrinate them into the liberal brainwashed masses? Me nor any
      member of my large conservative family will ever buy another Girl Scout
      cookie until your organization corrects this stupidity.

      This is the reply
      Thank you for your message to Girl Scouts of the USA. Girl Scouts
      constantly reviews our materials based on feedback and suggestions we
      receive from our members and we update our materials on a regular basis.
      As a result of this process, upcoming reprints of journeys materials
      will not include links to Media Matters.

      Thanks again for contacting Girl Scouts.

      Rosa Esposito,
      Information Specialist,
      Girl Scouts of the USA
      1-800-478-7248

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    • Billsyr
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 1:50pm

      Good point…but I’d suggest we all stop buying GS cookies. Let them get all their funds from George Soros and other liberal idiots!

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    • kenviksen
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:03pm

      i wonder if gloria a.has something to do with influencing the girl scouts.girl scouts should learn dedication and obligation to thier duty to family life.(such as good cooks,house maintainence and
      devotion for the apposit sex).and bring back living like the cleavers,to many organizations that want that life style gone now have their people planted everywhere.and money being pushed around.

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    • NatalieF
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:08pm

      Why are we allowing things that were once pure to be destroyed and reshaped into the hideous? Everyone complaining here should step up and volunteer as a troop leader. No matter how short lived your time may be, kids need to hear from good, moral people. You will have an affect on their thinking and the development of their reasoning skills. Get in the game!!!

      NatalieF  
    • 24AheadDotCom
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:11pm

      Bachsman: Snopes is OK when it comes to technical matters, but not OK when it comes to politics and other controversial issues:

      http://24ahead.com/s/snopes

      I’ve left dozens of comments at MMFA over the past several years pointing out how they got things wrong. Not pointing out their partisan bias, but simply how they didn’t tell their readers the truth. I’ve only very rarely gotten any backup from others. If you want to do something about MMFA, join up and leave comments showing how they mislead their readers, and backup others who do that.

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    • Joanne
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:52pm

      @LA Doc…
      Couldn’t have said it better myself! However I’m AM a Christian and therefore DO care about religious issues in politics and in every OTHER facet of American society since it ALL effects the nation that my little grandchildren are growing up in (two of them girls with one already 10 yrs old). I’m so sick of the overbearing IMMORAL PC ideologies being crammed down the throats of normal U.S. citizens DAILY. This country really closed it‘s collective ’eyes’ decades ago and stopped watching the hen house. Now the fox is IN the hen house and trying to kill every vestige of the decency that was once America. I seriously doubt that there is any chance of getting that moral ‘innocence’ back again for our children, something that greatly saddens me (even though I DO pray for it nearly every day).

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    • HippoNips
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:53pm

      Take your kid out of Girl Scouts. Demand a refund.

      Someone file a complaint on the Girls Scouts USA. tax exempt status. ….It requries them to be unpolitical

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    • capnbrit
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 3:18pm

      The best option is to get the heck out. Our family, along with almost 60 others in the Tampa area did this past year. We are all part of American Heritage Girls now.

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    • iamHeidi
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 4:08pm

      ENCINOM

      You’re joking, yes? Beck and his legion? Those MORONS at media matters have infiltrated somebody to put that crap in a GS book! They are the bad guys. Thank goodness for Beck and his ‘people’.

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    • Xxoax
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 4:23pm

      Enci… You Fail Epic.

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    • Joanne
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 4:27pm

      @Billsyr & others who say not to purchase cookies…

      ALL that will accomplish is to push the GS‘s further into MM and the TRULY EVIL George Soros’ arms! Instead let the organization know that you are DISGUSTED at what we’ve all learned here and that you will discourage any and every young girl in or out of your family NOT to join or participate in any way with the Girl Scouts of America. Let them know that IF and when this organization stops allowing political ideology to be used within the organization and when and IF it returns solely to the original intents of the founders of this great organization…. that being helping to raise healthy (morally healthy) young American women who have the tools to become the grown women that our society will benefit from, you will have nothing to do with them. Let your daughters KNOW about what’s going on within this organization also and encourage THEM not to allow their daughters participate!

      But DO encourage them to TELL the organization WHY their daughters will not participate. The Progressive/Liberal/Socialists who have infiltrated ALL aspects of our society need to know that we WON’T sacrifice our children to their immoral beliefs!

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    • LYSOL MOTOROLA
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 4:47pm

      Now here’s a BIG SURPRISE!!! It seems that Wendy Thomas Russell got lucky they made the God reference optional. She is an athiest. See this page.
      http://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/WendyThomasRussell?xg_source=activity Don’t have time to check the other one, but I am sure there are predictable “flaws” there as well.

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    • Alvin691
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 5:28pm

      encinom, are you here to add anything to the debate or just insult conservatives. You appear simply to be a troll.

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    • Bourgeois1026
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 5:47pm

      And NO MORE Girl Scout cookies!

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    • nelliebly
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 6:23pm

      Wendy & Sarah should check their spelling! “TRUTWORTHY” “ISSUME” “RING TONS” “SONETHING”
      “ADVERISED” “NTO” One GS camping trip, one of the mother’s started a campfire using firewood provided by the campground. She had to put it out because one can only start a campfire if they attend a weekend camping trip with other parents where they learn the correct way to build a campfire. So,
      we had 50 girls and their moms all huddled around a small “politically correct” fire. What a blast!

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    • SpankySpankster
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 7:01pm

      Encinom said: “Nothing like Beck and his legion (all twelve of them) attacking another American institution.”

      Look at what the left has done to the Boy Scouts for not allowing gay scoutmasters…

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    • hawaiianninja
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 8:21pm

      @ bw00ds: Thanks for the quick and easy recipe! :-)

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    • child13
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 9:22pm

      Several people have put the acronym “GS” in their responses. Like “I won’t buy GS cookies”. It’s clear the GS stands for George Soros now, and not the Girl Scouts. I won’t be buying his cookies either.

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    • seandcrowl
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 9:23pm

      In a related story the Girl Scouts announced a fall in Cookie demand expected in 2012

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    • chukkal
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 9:32pm

      Forget the Girl Scouts…..have your girls join American Heritage Girls of America…….none of this political stuff.

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    • turtletamer
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 10:29pm

      Some person named encinom has posted over 1000 times at a crappy liberal website called AlterNet. Could be a coincidence, but probably not…you know, just in case anyone wants to go be a troll over there the same way he is a troll here.

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    • drkmagneto
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:29am

      @Encinom How can you be so blind and ignorant? It must really be a lonely existence tobe a “Soros Stooge”. Media Matters is a propaganda wing of the “Soros Empire”, along with the “Center for American Progress”, and “Adbusters”(progenitors of the Occupy Wall Street [bowel] movement. The truth is right in front of you. Pull your head out of the sand. The truth hurts,doesn’t it?

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:26am

      The girl scouts also lists planned parenthood as a healthcare provider.

      I always understood the Girls Scouts administration to be the love child of feminist lesbians in the race to be boys as in Boy Scouts.
      * I said “administration” because many local Girl Scouts have active involved moms who have a trace of normality.

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    • myeyeofthestorm
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:10pm

      When my daughter found out the Girls Scouts and Brownies were pro-choice, she pulled my granddaughter out. This was several years ago.

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    • GERONIMA
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 1:37pm

      oH, i AGREE. I remember when my daughter joined girl scouts, she took me to her girl scout leader. I was shocked. She said here is my scout leader mom. It’s a he/she. I was angry as the girls called this individual a he/she, a freak. It was their choice of words and their playfulness with this person, was not of respect. This is what the outcome of a confused world looks like. A guy dressed as a girl, lipstick, he looked more like a freak. I don’t care what you do, how you live, but I hate when people try to ram their agenda down the throats of the children. Of course, I removed her. It is sad when you try to censor, and push kids into division at such a young age. Kids. If you want to do something smart, think for yourself, and you really don’t need a website to verify the truth or point you in the RIGHT, direction, you don’t even need a book. Ask your PARENTS, I mean, what are they there for right, duh….. Doesn’t the girl scouts teach you that the best teachers and people to trust are your parents and family. No, today in society, they want you to trust, your Government, Teacher and your Television…

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    • kanthonyb
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 6:08pm

      I often wonder how many people realize that two of the BIGGEST recipients of funds from United Way are the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts of America, and I’ve never understood why. When I was a scout, we had to pay local dues, regional dues and national dues. We had to buy every piece of our equipment and raise all of our own funds to go to any of the camps. We even had to buy our own merit badges. Nothing was provided to us by “corporate” headquarters. So why do they get MILLIONS of dollars every year from United Way…?

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    • Dominofrost
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 12:36pm

      ‘Reality has a well-known liberal bias.’ I am an atheist who lets my daughter take GS because I was once in GS. Every girl has to memorize this: “On my honor, I will try to serve God, and my country, to help people at all times and to live by the Girl Scout Law.” I have no problem with it. You wackos that are trying to say that it is some kind of bad organization where girls learn horrible things ought to get a life. Seriously, get a life.

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    • LaureenHolt
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 8:05pm

      I disagree with you on girls leaving the Scouts–it’s a great organization & they should stay & fight this nastiness out of Soros.

      But you’re right about the “non-profit” status of this org’n. It needs to be revoked & taxed.

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    • imyoda
      Posted on May 14, 2012 at 9:02am

      Aside from your guilty as charged bias………….Has it ever occcured to you that the article was written and published in a RW leaning with a political agenda………… And I would suggest you might take to heart the advice MEdia suggest to evaluate the internet offering……. :)

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  • 65Mustang
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:27pm

    Hell will freeze over before I by another GS cookie…my daughter was a GS and I have help sell and ate my share of cookies. No more.

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:40pm

      Me too. I also was a GS leader for my daughter’s troop, supported GS with a passion because I wanted the girls to flourish. I was even a GS myself back in the early 70′s. No longer can I support an organization that indoctrinates our young ladies, or allows girl wanna be’s to be in a troop. The people suffering the most are the girls and their leaders, who by the generosity of ppl purchasing cookies, funds a lot of their activities. Such a shame the left seems to be taking over a once great organization.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:47pm

      I’ve eaten my last thinmint from the GSA.

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    • Tom K
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:52pm

      @65MUSTANG: Be sure to talk to the adult at the G.S. Cookie stand and tell them WHY you are not going to support the cookie sales this time around. Here are some better NEWS sources: The Blaze.com , drudgereport.com , or how about FOXNews.com ? The next thing you know, they will be singing the B.H. Obama Song !

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    • srjim2000
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:58pm

      Here’s the national Girl Scouts of America location site. Pick your state – find your local chapter – and write to them asking them to pull the book from use in your area. You might even referrence this article to help educate them. If the national group is unwilling or slow to act, there‘s no reason grassroots activism can’t achieve the goal.

      http://www.girlscouts.org/councilfinder/

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    • RAS
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 4:31pm

      Could be there‘s someone who’s low on the food chain who plugged this in without the Girl Scouts being aware of it, so it’s best to wait to see how this shakes out. However, if it turns out they’ve decided to turn it it into a Progressive brainwashing machine, then I’m done with them too.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 4:56pm

      65Mustang, I agree. Is there anything that the progressives have not infiltrated? The only ones left are being raped on a daily basis for not following the extreme radical progressive agenda. God help us.

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    • Oh, God!
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 5:29pm

      My daughter was a GS until this past year. Not only do they endorse very liberal websites, but at their convention in Houston this past November, the speakers they had were, pro-abortion, feminist, and insert any other word you can think of that describes these people. They have ties with planned parenthood and there are even badges you can earn when you go visit PP. Along with this, their stance on transgender, lesbian and homosexuals is very questionable.

      Not all local councils advocate this stuff, but your dues and cookie sales are still going to fund some of these projects. You have Girls Scouts of America, which also gives money (dues and cookie sales) to GSUSA and WAGGGS. So in a roundabout way, by buying the cookies, you are giving money to these organizations that support and partner with PP. And like one of the commenters stated, I will be telling them why I am not buying their cookies anymore. Most moms are not aware of this or don’t care because they in fact support those causes. Our troop leaser was like that. The website The Blaze links you to is a good resource to go to for more info on GS and their affiliations with some of these organizations.

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    • francesp44
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 8:01pm

      I guess I’ll have to find another source for my mint cookies….but they haven’t been that good recently anyway. Besides , are all the girl scouts girls? Just sayin. john

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    • rickroland
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 8:15pm

      Yeap, they won’t see a single dime from me ever again.

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    • HumbleMan
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:53pm

      Same here. Done with anything to do with Girl Scouts.

      Has this cancer infected the Boy Scouts?

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    • fastrackn1
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:13pm

      srjim2000,

      Thanks for the link. I used it to find the local GS office. I just emailed my local GS office and told them I would never buy cookies again and why. I also provided a link to this web page so they could see that we are on to what they are doing. Hopefully my comments will get moved up the food chain over at GS.

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    • jmolson37
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:54pm

      Earlier this year I learned that there were ties between the Boy Scouts and the Muslim Brotherhood. Here is the article from World Net Daily written in October of this year. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=352145

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:05am

      We recently went to purchase a couple books for our daughters to help earn their Gold Award. The “Girltopia” books made us sick. For an organization that’s supposed to be about community service, the books preach something else, entirely. Now, apparently Girl Scouts is about being “me” focused, and “envisioning a world run by girls”. I can’t do it justice.

      You should pick up a copy (don’t purchase one, if you can avoid it) and see what the Girl Scouts have become. I’ve been worried about elements of this in the Cub Scouts.

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    • TaraR42
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 5:17am

      @HumbleMan: In my opinion YES they have infiltrated the cub/boy scouts, we after not having a child in cub scouts for many years signed our grandson up… we were excited so was he….we ended up pulling him out after 6 weeks…

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    • dcart888
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 10:12am

      AGREED I just went to their website and send them that message. You are Green? NO thanks. You partner with Media Matters? Don’t knock on my door selling cookies! Did you see photo of Michelle my Belle? I‘m surprised she’d pose in photo given cookies are not carrots?

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    • jpatrick
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 10:19am

      It’s about time someone paid attention to the direction Girl Scouts is going. CEO, Kathy Cloniger (who makes over $600,000), is very left wing and has revamped Girl Scout materials to support liberal positions including Planned Parenthood. I think they also receive government earmarks. Wish someone would look further in to this. It is not the conservative program it used to be.

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    • bebando
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 10:29am

      I’ve been a GS leader for the past 11 years. There have been many changes in GSUSA in that time supposedly in order to encourage more girl participation. The new GS Journey books that I have read (mostly for the older GS-juniors on up) are all filled with liberal propaganda-feel free to decide for yourself by borrowing some books. Fortunately, GS also grants much freedom in what the troops do, earn etc. My high school troops have always marched to their own drummer and we very loosely follow the journeys-there is useful information in them. That said, everyone should read for themselves. I have between my two high school troops, 27 wonderful young women I work with who volunteer their time for very many activities from feeding the hungry, helping with activities in town and helping other organizations. 9 out of 15 of the girls in my Ambassador troop were just inducted into National Honor Society for school. They appreciate the support you have given them through your purchase of thin mints and support of the Girl Scouts. I understand if you can no longer support them though-most of our fundraising is through car washes and babysitting anyway :)

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:02am

      No more GS cookies for me and mine, and my daughters will never join the GS now.

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    • cat66
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:10am

      Two cookie seasons ago (the January after BHO was elected president) the cookie slogan for that year was “BE THE CHANGE”!!! I was so angry that they would push Obama’s campaign slogan on our girls that I and several other moms called to complain. Their response, “it has nothing to do with Obama”. What total BS. It had everything to do with him. He had been saying it for two years before they ever hit those cookies. The ONLY reason my daughter is still in Girl Scouts is because she is going for her gold award which typically gets you a full college scholarship. She and I have talked about their liberal agenda and she knows to not listen or believe the stuff they push. It makes me sick. If people knew everything else that we’ve seen and witnessed they would know that this Media Matters thing is nothing new and falls right in line with their agenda. They are NOT the Girl Scouts anymore. They are a liberal run business out for themselves. The only thing they care about anymore is pushing their views and getting that money from the cookie sales. Unforuntely, we will be out there selling these cookies in January and February, freezing to death for 10+ hours a day each Saturday and Sunday. We are very limited in ways to raise funds for the troop project and activities so selling cookies is something that we must do, even though we don’t like it. I just hope that people do not punish the girls while trying to punish the Girl Scounts.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:18am

      Buy the Cookies… or they will report you to the Gestapo!

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    • johnsnare
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:52am

      Good for you. The cookies were god awful. Tasted like cardboard. Girl Scout fan no more.

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    • Fred Zarguna
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 1:54pm

      The cookie sale is, in and of itself, an exercise in anti-capitalist indoctrination. [I say this as a three-time "Cookie Dad" whose garage was perennially filled with Girl Scout Cookies.] Why? Because it convinces the girls that the system is rigged against them. The mark-up on these cookies is enormous, and only about 14% of the money goes to the local Girls Scout group. The sale prizes amount to a commission of <1% of the gross. All overages have to be absorbed by the local Troop, meaning that any waste, excess order, or "odd" boxes of cookies which don't amount to a full case have to come out of the local Troop's "profits."

      Typical liberal/prog outcomes: there's a lot of squawk about "community" and "working for the good of everyone," but in the final analysis, the Nomenklatura live off the labor of everyone lower down on the food chain.

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    • comsense08
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 8:30pm

      It’s not really fair to punish the local troop for what management has done! It’s just like punishing the employee for a coorporate decision. The employee has no say in the decision making process, just like the local troop has no say in what the governering board decides. Your issue is with the decision of the board. Take it up with them, not the poor little girls who are doing their best to do good. Not buyng cookies will have no affect on the board, but can be devestating to the local troop. Addressing the board, however, can have a great effect.

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:32am

      @HUMBLEMAN the Boys Scouts are called “babysitters club of America” for good reason.

      Also, Most moms have taken over the roles of Scout Leader- since when do women think or act like men defeating the purpose of facilitating the important role of mentoring/modeling manhood/fatherhood/pillar on which society rests?

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    • Dominofrost
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 12:40pm

      Don’t forget to BY (not buy?) GOLD while you are at it. The more people are buying, the higher the prices are going. Beck has done wonders for the BUY GOLD industry! I bet if the world goes to hell, GS cookies would be worth more than your gold.

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:23pm

    Progressives~! We may need to criminalize Alinsky tactics. Matter of fact, we already have laws that outlaw alinsky principles like, violation of the public trust, fraud, contractual obligations and many others. We just need to round them up and ENFORCE the existing laws. It’s not hard to get a dozen or so counts on a progressive Alinsky-ite. It is not hard to make an open and shut case against progressive leadership. Nancy, Harry, Soros, Obama ALL! Alinsky finger pointing seems to be their only defense!

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    • comsense08
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 8:54pm

      Worked on Resco! Typical Chicago type thug. Got burned though! Hahahahaha

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  • RejectFalseIcons
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:22pm

    Dear Thin Mints,

    Though I have enjoyed our time together, I must sadly discontinue our relationship. Your crunchy-minty-chocolateness has been one of my favorite things almost as long as I can remember. However, the organization that pays for the machines that bake you also supports a political movement that wants to bake me. I am astonished and insulted by the fact that you would associate with radical, genocidal marxists. We have shared some great times, but regrettably I must move on to a new cookie.

    I would wish you well, but the warmest wish I can give is that I never see you again.

    Sincerely,
    RFI

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:49pm

      Keeblers makes grasshoppers not quite thin mints but pretty damn good all the same.

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    • Rogue9
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 6:37pm

      RFI,
      Brilliant! My laugh for the day.
      Rogue 9

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    • 338lapua
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 8:23pm

      You MUST find Ripon-Good Mint cookies. They are a really good alternative, more chocolate than wax, and they are the same size they were last year,and the year before, and the year before that.
      I will NEVER go back!

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  • CatB
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:13pm

    Won’t be buying anymore cookies.

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  • ForMyKidsVA
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:11pm

    There is far more to this than just this one page in one book. I was my daughter’s troop leader for two years when I was told the “journeys” were changing so I needed to pick another one. Basically, GS wants all girls to become vegetarian, Eco-warrior, man-hating protestors. Take some time and read through the highlights of each journey on the official GS website.

    Needless to say, that was the end of GS for us. Blaze – look into the journeys and who sponsored them. There used to be a list of their sponsors on their site that was WAY more detailed than what is there now. It used to contain lots of communist and socialist sponsors and content contributors.

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  • SREGN
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:07pm

    Wherever children gather, perverts follow. Wherever perverts gather, liberals follow. Wherever liberals gather, destruction follows.

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    • LIBSALWAYSLIE
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:14pm

      As of this moment, I will no longer support the girl scouts in any way whatsoever. Thanks to the Blaze for this information.

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    • Livia
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 3:04pm

      I like the way you put that. Sharp clear, and it would take a thick headed liberal NOT to understand that.

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:06pm

    Considering Media Matters’ far-left attachments and its less-than-objective views, one wonders why the book’s authors, Wendy Thomas Russell and Sarah Goodman, would include this as the sole source for getting “the word out about media misinformation.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You have to Wonder?
    There isn’t one reader here today that would be hard pressed to tell you why A Couple of Liberal Writers recommended Media Matters.

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  • Mahakala
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:05pm

    And that is why we pulled our daughter from her girl scout troop nor longer buy any of their cookies. And I do miss those cookies.

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  • blkbelt7
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:04pm

    i will NOT buy girl scout cookies or support them in any way again…sooo sad…let the parents teach the children not the progressive media

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    • JRook
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:08pm

      Considering Media Matters’ far-left attachments and its less-than-objective views, one wonders why the book’s authors, Wendy Thomas Russell and Sarah Goodman, would include this as the sole source for getting “the word out about media misinformation.” Its better than most and who would you say is a better source…..this site LOL

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:27pm

      @JROOK
      You should seek help. You have been influenced by BHO’s conversational hypnotism. It’s real, and it has you.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:00pm

    Okay, this came from a pdf on the Girl Scout website on what each book highlights. I find this statement a little disturbing.

    “Cadettes (grades 6-8) explore media all around them—
    in their lives and in their world. They look critically at what
    they find and develop media skills to remake media to reflect
    their reality.”

    Remake media to reflect their reality? Really. How about report the media as factual?

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:43pm

      if I understand correctly, remake media as in……. making it up??

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    • whatthecrazy
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 4:01pm

      COFEMALE am i dreaming or should i say having a nightmare?I thank GOD everyday i dont have young children anymore, just a seventeen year old son left and need i say more about that?I was already worried about the boys scouts and now the girls .God helps us…………….

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    • CBPercy
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 8:46pm

      It’s not the girls or the local leaders, but the heads of GSUSA who let their personal agendas ruin a good thing for everyone….Media Matters is an unbiased source?? Really, Girl Scouts??????

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  • Steverino
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:56pm

    Progressive is a virulent and fast spreading cancer. Its reach is everywhere and hard to eradicate. I worry sometimes that it’s too late, with their hundred – year head start.
    Steve

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 6:34pm

      Geezes…..now girl scouts are the enemy

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    • lew418
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:30pm

      No Republi…. the progressives using the children in the GSA for their social reengineering are the enemy.

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  • conservativeblackman
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:55pm

    Just more of the same progressive, liberal, commie, statist, whichever you want to frame it propagnda. Nothing to see here.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:53pm

    The book on the Girl Scout website is considered “Out of Stock”, so maybe they are pulling the current book and reprinting without this page. So I want to know who proof read this book before publishing?

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:52pm

    The Boy Scouts have been marked by Progressives, now the Girl Scouts. I wouldn’t send my child to public school or have them join the Scouts. What a terrible shame. Progressives are infiltrating everything.

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    • RightWingEagle
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:49pm

      I beg to differ. The Boy Scouts are NOT the progressive’s patsys… being an Eagle Scout myself and have been an adult leader the last 20 years, there are so many conservatives on the paid professional staff to volunteer. Sure, there are bunch of Obama lovers in there, too… gives the rest of us something to laugh at. (Their ignorance for example.) And yes, the Boys I work with, when they are getting their Eagle, they know politically where I stand and have heard the conservative word. The choice is theirs’ then.

      As for Girl Scouts… they are a dieing organization. A group for young girls to look at: American Heritage Girls. Partnered with the Boy Scouts and offer peer leadership while leading some who are younger and older than you, too.

      Girl Scouts of America will be gone in less-than 10 years anyway… who cares if their books are sponsored by George Soros… my daughter will never join them!

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:52pm

    Im sure the militant lesbians that have infiltrated the girl scouts, will be coming out with the manual, on how to masturbate, in the presence of older. Short haired heavy set , older women , of course…

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  • RAMJR
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:51pm

    Media Matters…Founded by Hillary Clinton and funded by George Soros. Need anyone say more!

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  • COFemale
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:49pm

    Well now our once honorable Girl Scouts have been invaded; these people are like cockroaches, they taint everything they touch.

    I guess the only thing to do is collect each of these books and rip the page out, then return them as damaged books. LOL. The only problem with this it would not be the Girl Scout way, so I guess we just have to buy the books and keep them off the shelf or spread the word what some are trying to do and get people to NOT buy the book.

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    • EchoHawk
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Who are you trying to kid, you’ll burn them all, freak show.

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    • mrfunn
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 5:29pm

      Get to them young and they are likely to be yours forever.
      That is the communist and socialist way.

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    • mrfunn
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 5:37pm

      Climate Kids
      http://climate.nasa.gov/kids/index.cfm

      Is another example of get them while they are young.
      “Educator Resources”
      Are available at nasa.gov

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  • ZAP
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:47pm

    I`LL NEVER buy girl scout cookies,AGAIN

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    • sheerterror
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:05pm

      I second that. My little girl wants to join the girls scouts, told her its not happening. She sadly gets anuff brainwashing in school.

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  • IMPEACHBHO
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:43pm

    The State media has to end if we are to preserve our freedom. BHO still has decent numbers – thanks to the propaganda of the the State media.
    http://youtu.be/7kqVZUCRth0?t=15m43s

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    • babydriver
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 5:27pm

      Great video. Had to back it up to watch the entire, but well worth watching. Thanks for the link.

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  • JLGunner
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:43pm

    No more cookies bought from this guy. Way to push brainwashing.

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  • Plan B
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:42pm

    Had my last GS thin mint.

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  • M13
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:41pm

    Maybe they could start with “Islam is the religon of peace” myth.

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:40pm

    Well now I have a good reason for turning down the hordes of girls scouts trying to sell me cookies every time I turn around. I refuse to support a left wing liberal organization.

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  • saranda
    Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:39pm

    I am confused. Is it the directing the girls to snopes.com (a very useful site)? Or is it the fact that Media Matters is the one quoted in the book and doing the directing to snopes.com?
    Either way the girls are directed to a site that can quickly stop bad information from spreading.

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:52pm

      saranda why would media matters direct young impressionable girls to an honest site? Media Matters and it‘s thugs want to indoctrinate our you’ll to the socialistic way of life. I wont be a part of this.

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    • constitutionaldirective
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:53pm

      If you truly believe Snopes is real “fact checking”…. your indoctrination is complete and you may proceed to serfdom!

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    • saranda
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:10pm

      You need to do your homework on snopes.com. Put away your tinfoil hats and spend some time investigating before you condemn. I will save you some time and quote from the snopes website ……..

      “The snopes.com web site is (and always has been) a completely independent, self-sufficient entity wholly owned by its operators, Barbara and David Mikkelson, and funded through advertising revenues. Neither the site nor its operators has ever received monies from (or been engaged in any business or editorial relationship with), any sponsor, investor, partner, political party, religious group, business organization, government agency, or any other outside group or organization.

      Barbara Mikkelson is a Canadian citizen and as such cannot vote in U.S. elections, register an affiliation with a U.S. political party, or donate to any U.S. political campaign or candidate. David Mikkelson is an American citizen whose participation in U.S. politics has never extended beyond periodically exercising his civic duty at the ballot box. As FactCheck confirmed in April 2009, David is a registered independent who has never donated to, or worked on behalf of, any political campaign or party. The Mikkelsons are wholly apolitical, vastly preferring their quiet scholarly lives in the company of their five cats to any political considerations. “

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:13pm

      DONT YOU MEAN SITES THAT STOP THE TRUTH FROM SPREADING ?

      (required lower case )

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    • COFemale
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:20pm

      The Girl Scouts should not endorse any media website PERIOD. Girl Scouts should be told when reading any media statement to not take it as gospel and use all sources to come to a conclusion on what is factual and what isn’t. The fact they used Media Matters as their “fact” based source is a joke nor should they take Fox News as gospel. You can’t trust anyone these days as someone always has an agenda. As Glenn says truth has no agenda.

      Girls at this age are impressionable and generally believe things coming from an adult; this is why the left targets children they do not know any better and are exploited. Liberals who do this are no better than a pedophile who prays on children. Yes Liberals I compared you to a pedophile; be thankful I did not use Hitler as my analogy.

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    • bringiton
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:20pm

      Yes, SANDRA, you most certainly are confused. At least you can admit it. LOL!

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:23pm

      Read your responses, your answer should be clear. If you trust Media Matters to reprint or rebroadcast comments without editing and often in perfect context, you’re being programmed into the Socialist way of life and if you use Snopes to back check urban legends, then you are thoroughly indoctrinated into “Evil Progressivism”. The fact is, it is a very common propaganda technique to convince sheople that a legitimate fact source that disagrees with their party line is unreliable and therefore incorrect, you can only trust “their” sources, which are often loaded cherry-picked factoids, bent perspectives, revisionist history, and twisted reality. Beck often uses fringe sources for his “history books” and he counts on you not doing your homework and checking for opposition research. In a resent study, Fox viewers came off with a lower news awareness score than people who watched or read NO news at all. You might want to try taking the Pew Research News Quiz. If you score well, then good for you, if you don’t, you may want to reconsider your news sources.

      http://pewresearch.org/politicalquiz/

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    • saranda
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:23pm

      wow. Snopes offends you? You are officially over the edge.

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    • saranda
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:49pm

      The confusion seems to be that some on here think that the girl scouts used media matters as the source to information. They used snopes.com as the information source, a safe user friendly site with solid info on hoaxes and myths. The confusion is the Blaze making a reference to Soros when none was needed.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:55pm

      @COFemale, So I‘m a pediphile because I’m a Liberal? Believing that all people are created equal and endowed by their creator as having inalienable rights is a sickness? Believing that people have the rigth to practice the faith of their parents is evil? Believing in free speech, and tolerance are criminal, eh? Allowing people to live their life as they see fit is evil. Well, gee, thanks for the education.

      And where does Hitler fit into all this? Hitler spent a lot of time talking about love of country and taking his country back from the Liberal degenerates and the Jews. And he wanted to give his country living space away from foreign influences. He wanted to raise patriots. Change a few words, like Muslim for Jew, and Progressive for Trade Unionist and you have a lot of Conservative commentators. He only ran into trouble when he started killing Jews and Unionists. When he was all talk, big rallies, and sporting events, he was very popular with the Germans and even a lot of Europeans and a number of respectable Conservative Americans, Charles Lindberg, for example. After all, he made the trains run on time and he created the Freeway (Autobahn). If only you spoke German, you might find you really enjoyed his speeches.

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    • Luke21
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 5:20pm

      No desertrose, you’re an intellectual pedophile if you (like the NEA, & GS – scouts & soros, etc) prey on the minds of young children to indoctrinate them into your schizophrenic ideology. The same ideology that places Hitler (a satanic, socialist-marxist, sadistic, dictator) on the “right” (as you’ve tried to do here) & Stalin or Mao (a satanic, communist-marxist, sadistic, dictator) on the “left” & example of a progressive hero (as the present administration has done on multiple occasions). Satan went after the woman because she was more easily deceived [“has God really said…?” Genesis 3:1] – this example is no different, & by your reaction I’d say you’ve been deceived as well.

      Fathers stand up & protect your daughters (& wives) for the enemy is lurking about to destroy them. Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. (John 15:13)

      To all Jesus said to those who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:31-32)

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    • encinom
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 5:36pm

      @Luke21

      Sorry, but using the logic that you are spewing fanatic christians like yourself are no different. Preyin gon the weak minded with your fairy tales, pushing myths and fictions as facts. Dismissing science and replacing it with dogmatic beliefs. If you are going call anybody an intellectual pedophile you may want to first make sure you are not living in a glass house.

      The world will be so much better when the myths and supersitions of the past are treated as such instead of truths.

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    • Luke21
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 6:00pm

      Encinom,

      Exactly what scientific evidence would you be referring too – did “santa” leave the missing link under your “x-mas” tree? What dogma would you be referring too, you mean the notion that something as complex as man was created by God, rather than sprang up from a rock (evolution) or the notion that the Universe w/ its order & the anthropic principle appears designed because it has a Designer over the grand idea that “first there was nothing & then “it” exploded (big bang)”? Aside from your inability to form a coherent sentence, this should be interesting. Please educate us neanderthals.

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    • encinom
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 6:13pm

      Luke21
      Your creation myth, is no better than the myths of the ancient Romans, Greek, American Indians, etc. and has about the same amount of proof supporting it. Where is the evidence that discredits Zeus or Odin from being the great creator? Maybe the stories of Vishnu are correct where is your evidence that says otherwise?

      Where is the hard evidence, the science that supports the myth? I can point to mountians of books and research, evidence from the fossil records and DNA research. What more than a book of fairy talses do you have?

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    • Luke21
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 8:16pm

      encinom,

      You supply no evidence (predictable), just the same “myths, majority says, scientists say so”. The 2 things you offer, prove the opposite of your point. DNA proves a designer because it is an abstract language. The proteins are simply the material on which information is stored – like transistors that make up memory that stores instructions of a comp program. A computer scientist will tell you that a programming language is an abstract language, excluding any possibility of “chance” occurrence any more than 1 if by land, 2 if by sea could convey the proper message & result by chance – the very nature of it requires some prescribed meaning between the transmitter & receiver. As for the fossil layer, if evolutionists really believed it was an accurate representation of evolution they would disbelieve their own theory. E.g. see the Cambrian layer – instead the evolutionists speak of an “explosion” to account for the lack of transitional forms. You simply keep shifting the goal posts. That isn’t science, that is blind faith. As one wag put it – I haven’t enough faith to be an atheist. As for your point about Zeus, etc. that’s a non sequitur (also predictable). That doesn’t speak to whether there’s a Creator, only who that might be. I’ll leave you to Zeus & Darwin for your god. I’ll stick to the God of the Bible – the One & Only God that has spoken nothing but Truth to a lost world & told history in advance. Gives Hi

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    • encinom
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 8:30pm

      @Luke21

      So many words, so little information. the limited space here prohibits me from listing the nearly endless sources for evolution. But, that is not the point. The point is your rejection of science, the point is that you are unable to offer me proof that the Christian creation myth is the only correct creation myth. Where is the evidence that disproves the others. Where is the testable data.

      Nothing more than children in teh dark making up stories to explain the sounds coming from outside. Instead of investigating the truth you allow shamen to weave tall tales.

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    • Luke21
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:26am

      Encinom,

      That’s rich! So little is the space, you cannot even list one. Just a guess, but I’d say limited space here isn’t your problem.

      The fool has said in his heart,”There is no God.” (Psalms 14)

      But the LORD is the true God; He is the living God and the everlasting King. At His wrath the earth will tremble, And the nations will not be able to endure His indignation. Thus you shall say to them: “The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth shall perish from the earth and from under these heavens.” The LORD has made the earth by His power, He has established the world by His wisdom, And has stretched out the heavens at His discretion. (Jeremiah 10)

      Thus says God the LORD, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it, Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it: I YHWH, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images. (Isaiah 42:5,8)

      “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. If you are wise, you are wise for yourself, And if you scoff, you will bear it alone.”( Proverbs 9:10)

      knowing this: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For … all things continue as from the beginning…” For this THEY WILLFULLY FORGET: that by the word of God the heavens were of ol

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    • encinom
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:48am

      @Luke 21.
      Quoting the holy texts of one religion is not proof of anything, the holy texts of every religion report that their sky fathers are the only ones and that their creation myth is the only correct one. Where is the evidence that I can take into a lab, that I can verify independant of a book of fairy tales?

      THis is not a debate between compete scientific theories, this is a debate between science and fringe Christian Conservative extremists who are no better than the taleban in their goals.

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    • reshas1
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 12:26pm

      http://jdlong.wordpress.com/2010/04/05/snopes-com-exposed-left-wing-website-not-quite-the-impartial-arbiter-of-truth/

      Maybe YOU should do your homework..

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    • mbs235
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 4:19pm

      Saranda, that’s not what the book says, but I’m sure you know that. The book gives two sites as examples of where the girls can confirm or refute “urban legends,” snopes.com and media matters. Media matters does not give out accurate information. That is the issue, and it’s obvious from both the article and the copy of the page from the book reproduced above. So why are you trying to convince commenters that the article is about snopes.com? You’re just being silly.

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