Beck Radio Crew Cautions ‘Overzealous’ Paul Supporters: You Make Him Less Attractive to the Average Person
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Glenn Beck called into the Fourth Hour on GBTV to give an update on his health. He also took the opportunity to discuss with co-hosts Stu Burguiere and Pat Gray his thoughts on the New Hampshire primary and Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX).
While discussing Ron Paul, the three agreed: the Texas congressman had a great day on Tuesday. Burguiere praised Paul for being one of the few GOP candidates to not participate in the apparently anti-capitalist attacks on former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, and Beck was especially pleased with Paul’s fiery speech:
I’ll tell you, if Ron Paul was that solid all the time, like on his foreign policy – if his foreign policy made any sense – Ron Paul would be the nominee. Even the way he talked about his foreign policy, it made sense. Until you get into it, until you really get into it.
But what he said last night was great. What he said last night on the Fed, what he said last night on monetary policy was unlike any other politician out there. It was a great speech. You should really go back and watch it. It was a great speech.
However, the conversation quickly turned from discussing Ron Paul the GOP candidate, to discussing some of his “overzealous” supporters:
Burguiere mentioned one of the more “colorful” Paul supporters who had called the show to discuss the “Elders of Zion” and various “Jewish conspiracies.” This led Beck, Pat and Stu to agree: perhaps these types of supporters are Paul’s biggest obstacle.
“What they’re doing to Ron Paul, these supporters like that,” said Beck. “Is they’re making him less attractive to the average person because no one wants to be in the crazy camp.”
“Ron Paul is the only one who will talk about the Elders of Zion introducing foreign substances into our precious bodily fluids…”
In Beck’s opinion, Paul supporters who think they are doing the Texas congressman a favor by linking every aspect of American society to the “Elders of Zion” and/or various Alex Jones-esque conspiracy theories are actually hurting the GOP candidate.
If this is true, and the average voter is turned off by the conspiratorial Jesse Ventura type, then perhaps Paul supporters who are serious about winning the GOP nomination should ask the “overzealous” members among them to tone it down a little.
Along with “crazy” conspiracy talk, they may also want to do away with this type of “support.”
Good grief, did someone actually think this would help (unless, of course, it’s another Jewish conspiracy)?
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Comments (472)
ThePostman
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:45amThose who do not like Paul’s stance on foreign policy merely wish to go to war without declaration of war by congress. It is a nuisance to them. They are enemies of the constitution. Sorry Glenn, but that is what you are standing for. Perhaps you should reconsider your position. You wanted us to stand for principle, so that is what I am doing. Return to your own camp. Stop blaming those who found their way for your own blindness.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:07amWhat I find amazing is Glenn Beck of all people, the one who always says to “question” things with boldness will be so quick to believe any Ron Paul hearsay or even automatically believe that because someone calls into his show and claims to be a “Ron Paul supporter” and talks a bunch of crazy nonsense really is one. I mean really Glenn? With all the stuff you deal with would you really put it past the Ron Paul opposition to plant callers to your show to try to give Dr. Paul a bad name for supposedly trying to link themselves with Dr. Paul? I think it is all a vicious scheme from Romney or Obama to set up Dr. Paul and tarnish his good name and somehow discredit his ideas.
Report Post »Ron Paul is the only real candidate, you talk about his foreign policy but what foreign policy will we have in a few years when our economy has collapsed the dollar is destroyed because we have been spent into oblivion? Where will the global warfare/welfare mongers be then? Dr. Paul is a realist and realizes that when you are 15 and a half Trillion dollars in debt the last thing you do is talk about starting wars, handing out foreign aid and bailouts and maintaining useless military bases around the world. How about we worry about our Northern and Southern borders before we worry about Pakistans for a change?
thetreyman
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:18amwhat wording is required by the Constitution for a declaration of war?
TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:06amPostman said “Those who do not like Paul’s stance on foreign policy merely wish to go to war without declaration of war by congress.”
That’s is NOT the issue. I think that most US citizens would agree with him on that.
Those who don‘t like Ron Paul’s stance on foreign policy understand the threats that we have dealt with in the past, the strategic placement of troops that stand peacefully in place to deter a re-establishment of those threats, the new & developing threats & the threats that would quickly develop when Ron Paul pulls all troops home & creates a vacuum where our allies will be forced to make other alliances & loyalties to protect themselves; alliances with countries who are NOT our allies & who would now have greater funding and resources to use against us.
George Washington faced the same enemy and ideology that we face now with one big difference; We had NO military in the Washington years (though he stated that he’d use it if it existed). The enemy could not say that our military or policy was the cause. They attacked our merchant ships under Washington, Adams & Jefferson. The Navy was born during the Adams presidency & under Jefferson, after all other attempts & financial appeasement failed to work, Jefferson sent the Navy … to the shores of tripoli.
Ron Paul says bring our troops home to end war. The opposite is true.
Report Post »TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:20amKICKILLEGALSOUT, you are correct on cuts and responsible spending, but it is Ron Paul’s desire (IN HIS OWN WORDS) to bring our military home from strategic places of defense around the world that turns people off. It is not the wave of over the top verbal and visual graphic insaults upon non supporters that come from many supporters that makes us prefer other candidates, although the insults make us question his supporters ethics and other issues.
We‘ve all watched the debates and we’ve all evaluated Ron Paul by that. It is disappointing to many of us because so much of what he says makes sense and we’ve been waiting for that, but some of what he says sounds really dangerous. That and only that matters.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:28amA little question for you Neocons…
What happens when the SHTF and we do not have ANY money to bring our troops home? It takes billions of dollars to move our troops. They would be stuck in a foriegn land without pay…What then hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Bring our boys home and let the world figure it all out.Let Muslim slaughter Muslim.. Israel can take care of Syria and the Iranians with over 400 nukes, not to mention the bunker buster bombs they have that the US will not let them use right now…Take your hands off Israel and you will see Iran stop what the hell they are doing and pay attention. As long as the US has Israel on a leash they know nothing is going to happen and they continue bomb making.
Report Post »drparker37
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:01amCompletely agree with you Postman. If I recall correctly, Ron Paul is for following the Constitution which requires Congress to declare wars. If that happens, I’m not aware of anything the President can do except lead the nation into war as Commander and Chief. Does anyone know of a provision that would enable the Pres. to avoid war after Congress has approved?
Report Post »goahead.makemyday
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:19amAccording to law the President can only do 60 days of combat operations in an area before Congress Votes to go to war. This law is so that in the first critical days America can act when needed to. However, once those 60 days are up if no vote to go to war is agreed upon by both House and Senate those troops have to be immediately pulled out. This allows first strike opportunity and also limits the Presidents power to declare war. If the President has troops in combat operations for more than 60 days without a vote for war the president can be impeached. To my knowledge after this was put in place in Nixon’s term only Obama has a President ever conducted full war operations before Congresses approval(Libya). Even G.W. Bush waited for Congresses vote for war before sending our troops over to Afghanistan.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:06amPaul is a cherry picker when it comes to the continuation. Considering that Washington invaded Canada and Jefferson sent the navy after the Barbary Pirates, it is a bit rich to compare their foreign policy with Ron Paul’s, don’t you think? Madison wanted no part of the Articles of Confederation, or the pure “states’ rights” position, which is a misnomer considering states do not have rights. Ron Paul’s position, at best, would turn the states into separate warring “factions” (i.e. what Madison wanted to avoid)
Report Post »Naps
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:11amOnce again! Glenn and the Blaze try to smear Dr. Paul. Sorry Glenn,but the American people are waking up. We realize that the entire establishment is out to ruin Paul’s chances of becoming the greatest President this country has ever seen. For all we know(since your Santorum’s personal fluffer) you could be setting up these rediculous callers? Besides,you preach to “question everything” don’t you?Your true colors are starting to show due to the torrential downpour of TRUTH Ron Paul has revealed to us. Big Government,Big Wars,and Big Spending is all you will get from the other candidates.
Report Post »Including your golden boy,Holy Rollin,trigger Happy,War Mongering FOOL Santorum. Wake Up America.Stop hitting the snooze button with the lesser of 2 evils. Try to the GOOD GUY for once.
Ron Paul or more of the same? Your choice America!
Upstate SC
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 10:08amRon Paul has been speaking for the American people way before Glenn Beck got started… see this address to congress back in 2002. Wake up or lose the rest of our Liberties and Freedom. http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=B0OusDuzkjc
Report Post »Georgia4RonPaul
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 10:31amo Ron Paul’s PRO-AMERICA FOREIGN POLICY
Report Post »* Make securing our borders the top national security priority.
* Avoid long and expensive land wars that bankrupt our country by using constitutional means to capture or kill terrorist leaders who helped attack the U.S. and continue to plot further attacks.
* Guarantee our intelligence community’s efforts are directed toward legitimate threats and not spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act.
* End the nation-building that is draining troop morale, increasing our debt, and sacrificing lives with no end in sight.
* Follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged.
* Only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home.
* Ensure our veterans receive the care, benefits, and honors they have earned when they return.
* Revitalize the military for the 21st century by eliminating waste in a trillion-dollar military budget.
* Prevent the TSA from forcing Americans to either be groped or ogled just to travel on an airplane and ultimately abolish the unconstitutional agency.
* Stop taking money from the middle class and the poor to give to rich dictators through foreign aid.
What is so Crazy about it?
3monkeysmomma
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:05amThis article almost makes me feel sorry for establishment republicans. “We don’t have anyone to vote for we ACTUALLY LIKE so we find your enthusiaism annoying.”
This is like having that one lonely, bitter, single, sour-puss friend that your can never kiss your boyfriend in front of because she’ll get jealous.
Sorry, people, but we are in love with Ron Paul and we are going steady! Don’t make us choose between you, you might not like the choice we make.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:06amThe people that are allowed to speak on air as alleged supporters of Ron Paul aren’t any more representative of the average person than the people who comment on The Blaze. So pot meet kettle.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:20amHunstman is creating these negative ads by so-called “anonymous” Paul supporters for attention while simultaneous trashing Paul.
The anonymous garbage is not working. Anonymous newsletters, anonymous Ron Paul radio callers, ads by anonymous… all ***FAILED***.
Glenn Beck is not shy about being a Ron Paul hater, nor are his co-hosts shy about hating Paul and his supporters. He is not shy about worshipping Israel and being a warmonger who supported the banker bailouts.
Therefor, I don’t really care what his opinion is about Paul supporters. That guilt by association crap is NOT effective. It’s obvious and desperate.
RON PAUL 2012
THE GOSPEL OF LIBERTY!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:24amDear Glenn..As a Ron Paul supporter..it is mainly you who taught us to be Ron Paul supporters..believers in the Constitution in the face of the Communists/Marxists/Islamics/World Banks( by the way people,,I heard Hilary doesn’t want to be President of the United States…I heard she wants to be President of the World Banks because they are the ones who the President of the US answers to…And Ron Paul does not..Thank you Thank you Glenn Beck…We love you!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »sam27
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:14pmlove it
Report Post »Andrew72
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:30pmLook at this video about Ron Paul and his foreign policy.Just posted on Andrew Napolitano’s show Freedom Watch.Michael Scheuer just happens to know more about the Middle East, Terrorism and Al-Qaeda than any one out there.Andrew Napolitano supports Ron Paul, also he just happens to know more about the Constitution and our founding fathers than any one out there.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/86326/Former_CIA_Chief_Michael_Scheuer_Endorses_Ron_Paul/
http://americanvisionnews.com/1052/ron-paul-knows-nothing-about-foreign-policy-video
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:34pmI do not understand how it is not clear that the founding fathers did not desire and warned against military entanglements. See George Washington’s farewell address – http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/farewell/text.html
- “Observe good faith and justice towards all Nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all.”
- “As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent Patriot.”
- “…history and experience prove, that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of Republican Government.”
The Barbary war argument is fundamentally flawed. American trade vessels were being ATTACKED. America now engages in an aggressive foreign policy where an attack on American interests is not need but a subjective “threat” is all that seems to be required.
Glenn Beck and the likes dislike Ron Paul for one reason and one reason only. He does not subscribe to the Christian-Zionists mid 20th century misinterpretation of the Abrahamic covenant (Gen 12:2-3) and that the nation of Israel should be protected at all costs. Israel is not the 51st state of the US. Israel is simply another nation of the world. This belief in protecting Israel at all costs is not Constitutional and is not Biblical. To avoid deception, Christians better study the Bible for yourself rather than listen to someone’s interpretation. Study the New Covenant through Jesus Christ, and 20th century S
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:41pmMy post was cut off. Here is the last line.
Study the New Covenant through Jesus Christ, and 20th century Scofield theology.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:52pmRon Paul and Judge Napolitano – Are they LYING To You? Ron Paul
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YPRj3yhuVs
Nice to see this on “The ezalB”
Truthbeliever2
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:03pmI watched Glenn Beck on Fox from the first episode to the last. I have been a subscriber of gbtv since it first started. I have read six of GB’s books. I’m tired of hearing Glenn slam Ron Paul all time, when in my opinion Ron Paul is the kind of person he was describing that we needed in this country. That is the message I got from watching Glenn all this time. Now all he does is work hard to dig up dirt on the only true American candidate that I have seen so far. Bad press is the reason we lost Sarah Palin, and Glenn Beck is now doing the same thing to Ron Paul. Glenn jumps on the press’s band wagon to help vilify an American Patriot.
Hey Glenn??? Just what is it that you stand for??? Besides riling up the public to make yourself more dollars. Enjoy the $$$ you got from me, because you won’t be getting anymore. I will be sending my excess $$$ to Ron Paul.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:05pmrecoveringneocon
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:19am
Looks like more Propaganda from “The ezalB” Resorting to Jesse Venture (which they demonized for a week) to the Huntsman’s add that has been debunked countless times on every other news outlet.
“Jon Huntsman staff creates a hit piece about Huntsman & claims Ron Paul did it!”
http://www.examiner.com/elections-2010-in-wilmington/jon-huntsman-staff-creates-a-hit-piece-about-huntsman-claims-ron-paul-did-it
Why no mention of this? Something is fishy with :“ The ezalB”.
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:27pmThe post I made at 1:03 pm is the second time i have posted those exact words. They were deleted earlier by this site which is run by *******’s.
Report Post »jonnydoe
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:58pmSounds like Glenn is upset he can no longer control his listeners, so he’ll ridicule them into submission. Many have simply followed his advice to do their own homework and have come to the conclusion that Ron Paul is the candidate that most closely resembles our founding fathers. Glenn said so himself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyyI1EC5i2U
The reason Ron Paul supporters seem so “zealous” is because we realize that all of the other candidates are pretty much all alike (big govt, war machine, patriot act, ndaa) and Ron is the only one who has truly separated himself from the mainstream, Washington establishment crowd.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:18pmOh Postman you read my mind! You personally know how EVERYONE opposed to Paul’s foreign policy thinks! You must be a Progressive elitist to have that mentality.
And peoe wonder why I say Paul is a Prog. Look at what he attracts. Postman and his buddies make Beck’s point for him. No rational thinking person wants to be part of your “our way or we assume we know how you think highway” attitude of Paul and his 9/11 truther adherents.
That, and your “it’s a Jewish cospiracy” crap. I’m not a Christian or a Jew, but I’m a believer in God, a capitalist, and I stand with loyal allies like Israel who closely match our value system.
Now explai. to me hiw I’m a decieved fool or a shill. Tell me how wrong I am so I’ll flock to your point of view. Crimeny.
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:16pmFor Beck it all seems to come down to what is best for Israel. Ron Paul is the best thing that could happen for the United States, other countries that rely on our foreign aid not so much.
Report Post »ssbstspd
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 10:45pmYou’re an idiot. Did Glenn not prove himself to be trust worthy over the past few years ? May I say arab spring. May I also note that Obama was the one to go to Libya with no congressional approval. Almost all people here opposed going to war without congressional approval. Your point is mute and void. You are one who gives Paul supporters a bad rap. maybe you should keep your mouth shut for Pauls sake, Or as you would put it America’s sake.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:30amIt’s a shame, isn’t it? Especially when they keep posting that Huntsman ad as if it was a Ron Paul supporter when everyone knows it was someone in the Huntsman camp who made it.
Report Post »Here are their messages talking about what they did that they mistakenly put on the open forum
http://orinje.com/threads/430416-The-paulbots-are-going-crazy-with-our-video
privacyina9m80
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:09amPlease forgive me if I’m sometimes obnoxious in my support for Ron Paul (or Herman Cain).
With all due respect, I just have an incredibly difficult time understanding why people feel they have ANY right to forcibly steal the fruits of my labor through income taxation and then spend it on things I am completely against (recently I found out Jefferson felt the same way).
I just want a candidate who wants to minimize this burden as much as possible, so I can create things for myself and others.
Report Post »Babeuf
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:07amThanks for the sensible post! I have read through all 76 posts (so far at the time of this message) on this thread ALONE, this is what we have:
Report Post »“You’re a good brainwashed prole“ ”You’re daft“ ”I’ll likely write in Ron Paul“ ”You neo-cons”
“Beck’s fault“ ”I know most of you have very short attention spans”
“you are a moron”“You will need us in November””They are enemies of the constitution.”
“If Ron Paul doesn’t get the nomination, you’re going to need the “Paulbots” come November….then it’s payback time.”"Go graze, sheep”"Why are you all too dense to see that?!”
And Ron Paul supporters want to call us bullies!
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:48amBabeuf
This is a sample of what the Paul Supporters hear from the Haters.
Cymry
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:34am
Hey! Ron Paul supporters. If Ron tells you that he wants to move everyone to Central America to build a perfect constitutional society…….Don’t Do It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For those of you who would move to Central America, be very afraid if you are asked to load boxes of flavored drink mix onto the cargo plane.
NILAP
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:32am
The blather Paul barfs is astounding.
dwh320
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:29am
The paulbots are out in force tonight. Is it because they feel a need to rally around their tinfoil caped leader after his butt got kicked in Iowa? Their hero worship of a loser like Ron Paul boarders on comical but their actions to destroy a good man like Rick shows they are no different then Obama’s Progressive army of Union thugs. For them it is not conducting themselves with honor and respect because those two concepts only get in the way of their agenda to crown their messiah.
Sick and twisted are the best I can do to describe the Politics of personal destruction that paulbots practice
dwh320
Report Post »Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:32am
Paulbots are self destructive. Their sick and twisted agenda of politics of personal destruction are the same as Obama’s. Lies lies lies and not truth will flow from their hate filled minds.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:49amKka76
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:39am
Ron Paul 2012…. Ha ha, you’ve got me….. Dumb a__! How much are you getting paid by the Paul campaign? Keep up the good work! I have other thing to do than go back and forth with paid operatives!
Mr_Meaner
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:40pm
The only difference between Palestinians and Paulistinians, is that one group prefers tin-foil turbans.
If my saying that bothers you…good.
It’s the same way I felt, when the deranged hobbit told Leno that “Michelle Bachmann hates Muslims…She wants to go get ‘em”
Ron Paul is a liar, and his supporters are fools
Johnny2Guns
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:42pm
You Paulie kooks will find a conspiracy at every turn. When do you suppose Pastor Paul will try and move your cult to the jungles of South America and start passing out the kool-aid?
Crazy Times
Posted on January 9, 2012 at 2:06pm
70—
– get over it you numb nuts.
ambrosia
Report Post »Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:06pm
What the hell is wrong with these airheads ?
Are they out of their minds?
Are they so stupidly naive & lazy to not read, listen or do any research ?
Ron Paul’s World policies are DANGEROUS.
Hey, Morons…including this PeaBrain Bimbo-
you’re all in real “GOOD” company trying to get Mish-Mash Paul elected
but you don’t get “Star Billing”-
that belongs to
Achmadinejad…….and that’s just for starters.
Put your dumb, political azz on the line but don’t mess
Freedomluver
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:40am@Babeuf
Eeerrrrr, take a look at your profile picture, and then tell us how you can spew that worn out line of shear hypocrisy.
Now, perhaps you will tell us all about the position your candidate of choice has taken in regards to the NDAA?
Bueller…Bueller…Bueller….
What would you call a Republican candidate who supports a blatantly unconstitutional law like the NDAA?
Perhaps a RINO or a Neo-Con?
If not….why?
Report Post »George Patton
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 10:33amApparently a paulbot reported all of the posts in reply to their comments and they are all now gone. See paulbots love suppressing speech they disagree with….just like the constitution says right?
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:47pmGeorge Patton
Report Post »So now its Paul Supports suppressing the right of speech? If you go back to any, I will repeat it for you, any story on “The ezalB” they delete all kinds of comments that they don’t lets say approve of.
OperationNorthwoods
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:07amRon Paul Revolution will restore the Constitution.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:37amThey cannot stop it, only ridicule it. Let’s see…someone else does this…Saul something….and Barak what;s his name…
Keep ridiculing, we just get bigger. The small snowball of the REVOLUTION to restore LIBERTY has begun rolling down the hill.
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:37pmCrazed Ron Paul supporter gets in a fight.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpbRDjJQyIM&feature=related
Report Post »Ramv36
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:51pmHope and Change all over again.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:17am@Ramv36 Well one has based his career on doing nothing but spreading lies. The other one has ran a successful medical practice, delivered more than 4,000 babies, served in the US Air Force, served his Congressional district well, written many best seller books, initiated various grassroots organizations promoting Limited Government and Liberty, received numerous awards and recognitions for fighting arbitrary taxation and gun control, worked to defend and promote our Constitution, free markets, and unalienable rights, and never been bought to represent a special interest or agenda outside the duties permitted by the Constitution.
Obama all over again? I think not.
Report Post »mrsalvage2
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 2:54amI thought we THE PEOLE were voting on a Man to Run against the Obomber for the Office of the President.
Since when do we vote for anyone who supports the man?
Is this not guilt by association?
Get real! GB is hemmoraging from their slieghts against The Doctor, and that is OK because the NDAA, the TSA Checkpints, the EEA, the expanded Wars, all show that ALex Jones was Right all along.
I onl come here to try and give one more burst of reason to the fence sitters and get some more dropping into actual reason, instead of reactionism.
Dr. Paul, th eonly non-Progressive (= Extremist) running for President.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 2:23amI think the crazy camp would be a vote for another McCain…..
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 2:50amMaybe Glenn should ask everyone to stop the Saul Alinsky attacks on Paul…and maybe Glenn should say what the other canidates are…they are not Social Conservitives but hypocritical Family Value Progressives
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:07amI agree…Romney, Santorum, Newt, Huntsman and Perry are not Constitutinalists, they do not understand Liberty and Freedom as the Founders wanted it and they are not Conservative, they are Obama light.
It was a disgrace to put on the wacky Ron Paul supporter on the show. Millions of Paul supporters like myself are appauled by that kind of idiot. But the fact is that he is a supporter. You think Obama didnt have some wacky supporters? You think McCain, Romney, Newy, Santorum, Perry or any other candidate does not have wacky supporters? I think if you wanted to you could make a show of just wacky obama supporters!!
Ron Paul supporters are indeed rabid. Some uneducated, some very educated. They call us names like Paulbots, Paulites, Paulanistas and other names. People do not take the time to even listen to the message because people like Stu and Pat choose idiot callers and do not take calls from Paul Supporters who make sense. they only bring on those who they can nitpick and ridicule like the guy they had on.
You will need us in November. You guys had better stop and think. Sarah Palin was correct. The Republican party is going to alienate the Paul supporters with their ridicule. If you were smart you would listen and stop your taunting and jokes and LISTEN to what Dr Paul and his smart and sane supporters have to say. There are many odf us too!
Are we rabid? You bet!
Report Post »LIBERTY IS IN OUR SOULS!!
Ron Paul 2012 to restore the Constitution
KTsayz
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:25amMe, too.
Oh, and Becket Adams, you forgot to mention that the Hunstman ad was also listed by NHLiberty4Romney http://www.youtube.com/user/NHLiberty4Romney and NHLiberty4Santorum ON THE SAME DAY!
Just days begore Huntsman told Piers his daughter’s have something up their sleeve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-A-R07mgs8&feature=related
Then there’s the online Huntsman campaign talking about it.
http://orinje.com/threads/430416-The-paulbots-are-going-crazy-with-our-video
Here’s some of the messages:
Huntsman 201 – the paulbots are going crazy with our video
John – The paul reaction shows how incopmtent [sic] they really are. We put them on the defensive with a video that took 5 min to make. Have you seen the final for monday?
Dave – Well we have one coming out on monday
Huntsman 2012 – Sorry guys, I didn’t relize [sic] I was in the open fprum. Can the huntsman team here move this to the insiders forum, ASAP
Abby (H’s daughter) – Paultards We are tired of being victims of your unorthodox behavior.
Abby – If you people want to know who made the video then fine, it’s not a big deal. It’s all coming out after NH anyway. We are not directly responsable [sic], the video was an accident.
This whole thing was made up by DETRACTORS and had nothing to do with Ron Paul or his supporters.
Report Post »You know it, Glenn knows it. So stop with the purile smear campaign and tell the truth for once.
Let’s see what they put out on Monday, if they dare.
martinez012577
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:44amLOL. So Ron Paul can fix the economy, he is right on the Fed, he is great on the spending cuts, but his supporters are a problem. I dont care who is else likes Ron Paul. I am not voting for Highschool Prom Queen. I am voting for what is best for the United States and for what is best for my children. If you choose to vote for or even against someone for who supports them, you are a moron.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:21amI will not walk in Novemberif Romney is the nominee. I will still vote for him even though I think he is just another John McCain. I just wish people would get thier fingers out of their ears and listen to one of Dr Pauls speeches…
I know most of you have very short attention spans, but I double dog dare you to sit down and look and listen to this 7 minute video. 7 minutes! Then if you want to ridicule, you can, because your brain has been taken from you and you dont even know it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-6EaMJM6CM&feature=related
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:07am@baddoggy
I watched the clip and agree with much in it. HOWEVER, there is one big part of RP‘s and others’ understanding of our world today which which I disagree.
My college major and my main interest is in religion, not just MY religion, but why and how people believe what they believe. I’m sorry, but Al Quida and the rest of the Islamic middle east DO NOT ATTACK US because of “what we’ve done to them“ or ”what they don’t like about our culture”–they come here and go to strip joints before they fly planes into our buildings!!!
Islam is so much MORE than just another religion! It is a lifestyle ideology and a way of life that may or may not be what one would choose. In addition, it is a RELIGION OF COMPUNCTION–BELIEVE or SUFFER and/or BELIEVE or DIE! I know Christianity of the past has used force, especially when the Church was a GOVERNMENT RUN INSTITUTION! I also realize that in Old Testament times Judism was instructed to kill or take as slaves (servants) those they took in conquest. However, we are in the 21st century not the 7th century of a antiquated religion that moved from “peace” to WAR in the life of the person who founded that religion!
We must as a people understand that why ‘THEY’ don’t like us because they KNOW we will be difficult to overcome. Israel and the U.S. of A are the last stands of large numbers of people who know what they believe and why they believe it! We must be able to stand!
Report Post »Ordie69
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:26am@HILLBILLYINNY – I am sorry but of the billion Muslims in the world there is a very small faction that are radical. I think we can handle them. I might be misunderstanding what you said but is sounds like you would approve of a modern day Crusade to eradicate a belief system you disagree with.
Report Post »bpopwell
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:35amIf you notice the last couple of weeks’ worth of Beck comments on Paul…
…he’s slowly gaining respect for the man and the movement!
I hope he comes full circle. Paul’s an honorable candidate.
Report Post »finky555
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:38amRon Paul only needs to clarify his foreign policy. I agree the military should be brought back, no more foreign bases, but temper that with saying each will be evaluated and kept if deemed necessary. It is possible 1 or 2 remain necessary. He insists as he should that congress must declare war, what he fails to say is that once that is done he would fiercely support it and carry it through. He has but not clear enough, he has to make it perfectly clear he would do it when it became necessary. He also needs to make clear that once all the bases have been brought home, that the US will not stand for attacks on US sovereign corporate and public travelers, that they will be defended by any and all means but from home bases, the military can has the ability. If he could clear those things up I think he would spring to the front and stay there.
Just some Canadian thoughts, cause we here know you have to have the right person this time or we’re screwed too.
Report Post »C1ppy
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:51amSure hope you are correct with your prediction BPop, however I doubt it. The only reason Glenn gives any credit to Ron Paul is because he is getting hammered by supporters of Paul who “USED” to be his (Glenn’s) “Bread and Butter”. Glenn has betrayed all of us, “Say what you mean, and mean what you say” (what a joke!)- apparently Glenn’s love for the constitution and the founders was nothing more than a way to make $$!
Report Post »PauliD
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:19pmThis post is about his WACKO supporters.
Report Post »mcFirst
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:25ameveryone is an expert with what Paul supporters should do or say.
Pat – you think you have something on Paul with the ear mark spending but its a red herring.
RON PAUL 2012!!
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:24amI completely agree. Paul’s crazy-eyed supporters are what has always scared me off. Paul talking about de-funding Israel also spooks me off. But with that said, I am ready to vote for Paul over Romney. I have said all along that I would never vote for Paul but I have had a change of heart. If Romney and Paul are the two choices left I am going to vote for Paul. I would much rather have Santorum than either of these two, but I would rather have Paul than Romney.
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:53amAnd what will you do if it is Romney / Paul ticket?
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:34amBut the fact that if Romney/Newt or Santorum get in they will start WW3 doesn’t scare you?
Report Post »goahead.makemyday
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:33amDoes WW3 scare you more or would WW3 in our neighborhoods scare you more? Paul‘s stance on pulling back all our forces is the only thing I don’t agree with him on. With the Middle east and Islam gaining power, and communists holding office I don’t see a way to avoid WW3. I may be selfish but I don’t want to fight foreign soldiers in my city. I saw earlier where a person said we have the ability to attack people that attack our commercial and political transports from home bases. I would like to remind everyone that so does every other world power, including China, Russia, and with China’s help N Korea and Middle Eastern Nations. If we have key ares that allow us to hit their home once they hit us they will be less likely to hit us to begin with. This is not a lot of firepower but look at the Monroe Doctrine, it was a giant bluff but it worked. Bullies won’t attack a person if they can hit back, and with America’s forces only hours away from hitting back at ANY country I feel safer. Even if it could just be a bluff.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:23am@goahead.makemyday If WW3 starts we WILL BE invaded. Would you rather have our military, and especially our troops, spread thin all over the world, while our border are left wide open and unsecured, with Big Sis Napolitano, along with her crew TSA, FEMA, ATF, and DHS, there to protect you, the same one that labeled TEA party folks “domestic terrorists”?
Our troops should not be used for Nation building, nor should they be a global police force or world peace corps. We have more than enough resources to deal with any threat, and plenty of missiles pointed at our enemies, at any given time. We have enough satellites, carriers, submarines, stationed missiles and other high tech weaponry to protect our homeland and our interests here at home and abroad. We cannot be defeated. Bring our troops home to protect their own country and homeland.
Report Post »kconservative
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:02amBeck your back gave way, cause your losing your spine. You preached liberty and founding principles for three years.. and now, with everything thats going on your going to support the Romneycare big government, quazi Proggressive Neo Con McCainian.?
The Truth is Ron Paul is the only one we can deal with. Stop worrying about foreign policy, America is being defeated from within.
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:21amRemember folks. Glenn, Pat, and Stu don’t support Mitt Romney. They’re not “Romney Supporters”. Yeah, they support *nod nod wink wink* Rick Santorum. Yeah, cuz HE’S got a legitimate shot. And, hey, all the mormons are supporting Santorum, right? Also, I do not support Newt Gingrich and President Obama is a Reagan Republican.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:58ami blame it on the media … for the first part of the campaign (and to some extent even now) the only place you could get news about the Ron Paul campaign was at prison planet, and unfortunately some people just don’t have the mental chops to separate the wheat from the chafe (a trait equally common to some glen beck media enthusiast) so a bunch of loud and misguided RP fans have been front and center in forum posting and in the little bit of media coverage there is,…A SHAME …. but THERE IS NOTHING DUMBER OR MORE MISGUIDED THAN THE IDEA (often seen expressed here) THAT I WONT VOTE FOR SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF THEIR SUPPORTERS. so what they are saying in effect is, the constitution, the consistent voting record, the ideas of a candidate, are disposable if you might be associated with a loud mouth schmuck for agreeing with them?? if your patriotism and understanding of conservative values is that shallow, maybe you should do conservatism a favor and sit this one out.
or do as glen suggests and “question boldly” including questioning the contradictions between what glen himself says and the record and views of the candidates he supports….
NO RINOS, NO LESSER OF TWO EVILS 2012
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:05amWell stated.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:12amYes…well stated.
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:15amI don’t think Ron Paul supporters are much different to Glenn Beck Supporters. The only difference I see is that Ron Paul supporters still support Ron Paul while Glenn Beck fans have gone from Trump to Bachmann to Perry to Cain to Gingrich to Santorum and on to Romney before they ultimately wait to see who Glenn tells them to vote for. This will all become clear when Beck finally endorses Paul and you see posters acting like they were supporting him all along
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:36amNO RINOS, NO LESSER OF TWO EVILS 2012
I like that!
Report Post »Danny78
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:57pmWell said. I have been aware of Glen since the Tampa days when he had the am gig from 9-12. Just him and Jeffie part time in those days. To me, Glen and his crew just come off as way to smug as if they enjoy the smell of their own flatulence. I resent the way they have treated Ron Paul for years and I really believe they are content to maintain the status quo and just go with whatever GOP candidate that comes down the pike. Ron Paul is the only choice. If you want this country to turn. Sure I could second guess his foreign policy. He is so spot on on everything else and we are in the state that we are. I am done with the MSM The only thing they are good for is sports scores and the weather report. I don’t trust Washington to protect Americans. This lot of GOP candidates is the worst ever. Ron Paul stands head and shoulders above them all. The MSM has always laughed at him and still attempts to marginalize him. This crew Glen has is just the same. For some reason this 76 year old man that has defended the constitution his whole career scares the crap out of all the Pundits. For me that is the biggest endorsement he could get. And it should be a wake up call for the rest of America. Go Ron Go!
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:56amPat and stu are using the guilty by association tactic. Here’s how it works.. You have a normal ron paul supporter and you have a “plant” or your call screener finds the craziest caller on the line. The caller goes on an anti Israel rant among other things and Pat and Stu right away chastise the guy and say this is the average Ron Paul supporter , Here’s the catch, people will not vote for a man that crazy people support. look at what the media did to the Tea Party.. Same tactic. It’s not going to work pat. you need to watch this: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1384564404001/ Judge Napolitano get is right!
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:37amI wonder how Glenn would feel if the shoe were on the other foot (which it actually has been in the past 2 – 3 years):
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Report Post »“It’s not fair to blame Beck for violence committed by people who watch his show. Yet Williams isn’t the only such character with a seeming affinity for the Fox News host. In April 2009, a man allegedly armed with an AK-47, a .22-caliber rifle and a handgun was charged with killing three cops in Pittsburgh. The Anti-Defamation League reported that the accused killer had, as part of a pattern of activities involving far-right conspiracy theories, posted a link on a neo-Nazi Web site to a video of Beck talking about the possibility that the Federal Emergency Management Agency was operating concentration camps in Wyoming. The killings came after Beck told Fox viewers that he “can’t debunk” the notion that FEMA was operating such camps — but before he finally acknowledged that the conspiracy wasn’t real.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/30/AR2010073003254.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Bonnieblue2A
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:53amLou Dobbs and Rand Paul: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1384446548001/rand-paul-on-dads-dangerous-campaign/?playlist_id=87185
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:56am@ kid
And therefore, as all can clearly see, by elaborate and deductive lucidity, it is therefore all Beck’s fault.
Report Post »baroquetexas
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:45amI would say that Romney’s supporters are an even bigger liability. I mean Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, and Wells Fargo.
Report Post »For 2012
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?cycle=2012&id=N00000286
I thought these were the too big to fail organizations that got us into this economic mess from the derivative shell game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_(finance)
They benefited from TARP bailouts so I guess Romney should thank all taxpayers for our donations to his campaign. At least during the 80′s Savings and Loan Scandal those responsible went to jail. Nothing has been done to those responsible for our current economic troubles. I want a candidate that will promise there will be an investigation and convictions for the 2008 collapse. Right now they have a free pass to continue playing the derivative game. The only person I see attacking this issue is Ron Paul. By the way why was the Federal Reserve able to loan 22 trillion when it was audited ? The U.S. Taxpayer dollar is the collateral that backs this loan. Ron Paul is the only one attacking this issue. Look at Ron Paul’s top contributors which are all military:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?cycle=2012&id=N00005906
Could we not at least try diplomacy through China and Russia when dealing with Iran? China would probably much rather have us pay back debt instead of defaulting due to another war. Russia, financially, would prefer stability in the re
Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:32amPS- If Ron Paul doesn’t get the nomination, you’re going to need the “Paulbots” come November….then it’s payback time.
Report Post »Give Me Newt Or Give Me Death
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:39amAnd this is precisely why no one can stand the Ronulans. You’re ideologues who will sink the ship rather then help bail water. If you can’t get your way, you’ll lash out like a spoiled child. You‘ll vote for an actual socialist and all because you didn’t get your way. So much for being all about the defense of liberty and standing against tyranny.
Report Post »Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:43amSo we’re supposed to just bend over after being treated like this? You’re looking for stooges.
We have awakened to what is really going on here. It’s called “corrupt”. We’re not going to be used by the same forces that are out to destroy us.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:51amYou Paulies need to find your big boy pants, put them on, and see if they fit yet.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:52amGive Me Newt Or Give Me Death
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:39am
You‘ll vote for an actual socialist and all because you didn’t get your way.
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No….I can promise you that I won’t be voting for Newt…..so you can put your mind at east about that.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:58am@Give Me Newt
No you are incorrect. NOT TO SPEAK IS TO SPEAK!
You continuously voting for whomever is the party nominee, regardless of your principles and values, is NOT SPEAKING. It could be compared to saying “we were just doing what we were ordered to do”…..
I’m sorry but there are fundamental differences in Ron Paul and other candidates. Ron Paul is by far the most conservative and the other candidates hold way TOO much in common with Obama.
I will not waste my vote on an Overturn Window candidate that moves us more to the LEFT. If I did, I would be part of the problem and I would not be speaking.
As Americans we have the right to vote how we wish. Stop trying to BULLY Ron Paul supporters into voting for a moderate. You are alienating at least 25-30% of the Republican base. Maybe it’s time you party voters start listening a little bit instead of bullying….
Newt is not a conservative and he is not consistent. Care to debate Ron vs Newt?
Report Post »kconservative
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:59amBLAZE SHOULD DO SOME RESEARCH THE HUNTSMAN AD HAS BEEN DEBUNKED TO BE ACTUALLY PUT OUT BY THE HUNTSMAN CAMPAIGN. AN INDEPENDANT STUDY INVESTIGATION ACTAULLY FOUND IT OUT., THEN OF COURSE SOMEONE FROM HUNTSMAN CAMPAIGN FINALLY ADMITTED IT. MAYBE BECK SHOULD SPEND HIS TIME TALKING TO THE HUNTSMAN SUPPORTERS FOR MAKING FAKE ADS.
Then Again Beck is losing his veiwers fairly fast over this Paul stuff, Beck preached liberty and founding principles for 3 years, now he is going to support a big government proggressive neo con. I know why Glenns Back Broke, he is losing his spine.
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:25amThank you Newt or Death! Bullseye.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:46amWAT TYLER Most of them will run back to Obama….. They nothing more than thrifty liberals that pretend to be Conservative.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:49amWow… We need to Support Ron Paul or else??? Is that a threat? You love Obama that much that no PAULBOT would vote for another candidate?
It is yourselves that are painting yourself in the corner. My open… the the whole thing fall and we can rebuild it WITHOUT THE PAULBOTS.
Report Post »Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:30amYou neo-cons will try anything. It just underscores your desperation.
What IS truly unappealing is the shrill of the smear.
Also, Ron Paul was noticeably missing last night in all the media coverage, even though he came in second. ABC even skipped him over and went to Huntsman’s HQ after their coronation of Romney. Snuffeluffigus was visibly upset..
Do you think I am the only one who noticed? Talk about counter-productive.
When people see an in-your-face media blackout of the 2nd place finisher, where they don’t even make an attempt to hide their bias, it only reinforces the commonly held notion that there is a massive conspiracy to thwart Ron Paul by an evil invisible power.
This only makes him stronger. Keep it up.
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:56amI’ll likely write in Ron Paul if the GOProgressives continue to pick Romney instead of allowing the people to pick the candidate.
Report Post »EgoBrain
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:54amAnd the minute you and your ilk say ‘neocon,’ it immediately cancels your credibility.
Report Post »Ordie69
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:58am@ EGOBRAIN – why would mentioning Neoconservatives negate his point? If the definition fits, well, what is the problem?
“Neoconservatism is a variant of the political ideology of conservatism which rejects the utopianism and egalitarianism of modern liberalism but sees a role for the welfare state. Their main emphasis since 1990 has been using American power to foster democracy abroad, especially in the Middle East. They were notably visible in Republican administrations of George H.W. Bush (1989-93) and George W. Bush (2001-2009).
Neoconservatism was developed by former liberals, who in the late 1960s began to oppose many of the policies and principles associated with President Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs.”
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:05pmEGO:
…and the minute you say “ilk” it immediately cancels your intelligence.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:23amGlenn, Pat and Stu should be cautioned that they may not understand the true motives of a caller. Maybe the anti-Zionist was actually a provocateur. After the “Manchurian Candidate” video was debunked as an F2 from Huntsmann’s own campaign, they should be a bit more careful in their assumptions. Then again, maybe their phone screening software has an algorithm that can determine true intention.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:29amI agree, but what else can they do but take a caller at his word?
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:53amThese guys know this game better than that. They’re not interns working for free and college credit. The guy was text book antisemitic. It was too over the top and intended for shock value. The true intent is to place Paul supporters on the defensive, redirect attention from true issues, and an attempt at “guilt by association.” It’s vilification. I’ve read posts from a lot of you on here, and you’re too smart to fall for these cheap ploys.
What if you suddenly started hearing callers saying, “We need to make sure Romney is elected because he won’t hesitate to help Israel. If it leads to confrontation with Russia and China, and goes nuclear, so be it! My soul is secure with my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ and I am ready for his return!”
10 or 15 of those pop up on Glenn, Hannity, Rush, Levin. Just think about the negative psychological effect it would have on his supporters.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:11amp.s. If someone really wanted to play nasty they might ad, at the beginning and end of their little pro-apocalypse rant, that they share Glenn and Mitt’s faith and are are devout followers.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:21amSome of the antics and screaming from Paul’s followers scared me to death.. but really I turned my back on Paul for two reasons.. his foreign policy idea’s or lack of them.. and his dealings with George Soros with Barney Frank.. God help us!
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:25amExactly
Report Post »Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:38amYou forgot to mention your marching orders from the propaganda machinery. You’re a good brainwashed prole.
Report Post »Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:39am“His dealings with George Soros”? You’re daft.
Report Post »Give Me Newt Or Give Me Death
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:41am@WAT TYLER, With every sentence you write, you’re proving Beck right. This is precisely why your candidate has been on the fringe for all these years.
Report Post »Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:47amPeople with power have been saying that about anyone who challenges the status quo for centuries, so consider the source of “Newt” the King of Corrupt’s opinion.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:50amGive Me Newt Or Give Me Death
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:41am
@WAT TYLER, With every sentence you write, you’re proving Beck right. This is precisely why your candidate has been on the fringe for all these years.
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Oh….so now you suddenly believe that Beck is right??:
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Report Post »“For the last couple weeks, Glenn Beck has been trumpeting the mantra that Newt Gingrich is a “progressive” Republican.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-gingrich-a-progressive-beck-and-oreilly-debate-issue-on-the-factor/
Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:50amPeople with power have been say that about those who challenge the status quo for centuries.
So consider the source, “Newt” King of Corruption.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:05amAbby – how do you know they are really Ron Paul supporters? You are aware that people lie, aren’t you?
Report Post »There is no proof that the people who called Glenn are true Ron Paul supporters because the ones I have had exchanges with are usually more concerned about the unPatriot Act NDAA UN, loss of liberty, the spending, the debt, the failed economic policies, the RINO candidates’ threat of more wars and Obama than we are about conspiracy theories and negative ad campaigns.
George Patton
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:44amThis use to be a nice website to come to, but the paulbots have ruined it for everyone. No longer can people post on any subject without a paulbot hijacking the thread making it about paul. They are like little children….no matter what the adults are talking about they run in the room and scream LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME.” It is so exhausting. Just as the occupy people ruined the cities they infested, paulbots have ruined the blaze with their infestation. They can’t be happy with occupying their own forums, they have to occupy everyone else’s….because like the liberals they are, they cannot stand speech ANYWHERE that does not agree with them, and they must crush it. To all paulbots: we do not dislike Paul, we dislike you. Leave us alone. You are like telemarketers who won’t take “no” for an answer, but worse, because after you’ve heard no 100 times you turn to insults, as if that is going to convince anyone you are right. Everyone is tired of you.
Report Post »EgoBrain
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:56amAmen, George. AMEN.
Report Post »Colette
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 10:50amYou are spot on George!
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:15pmGEORGE PATTON:
If you dislike disagreement and debate then you should post your cute comments on your fridge instead of the internet. For all the noise you make about the “paulbots” you are mimicking exactly what you seem to dislike. There is no ‘meat’ to your comment; no factual basis. It’s more complaining than exposition. You seem like a child who says LOOK AT ME while the adults discuss important stuff.
We cannot afford any military conflict abroad, this is why Paul’s Foreign Policy makes sense. Glenn once said in a radio ad for his show that we can’t fight if we cannot afford bullets. We will be defeated similar to the former USSR which is to say ‘financially’. I know by your avatar name that you are eager to spill blood, but right now, we need to rally our home defenses and regroup our finances. This is what Paul is talking about.
Report Post »George Patton
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:47pm@sdarbro
Report Post »Yes I am complaining about paulbots, so what. You are a very annoying bunch. The problem is exactly what you said…this is a place to discuss, but paulbots don’t discuss. The only thing we are permitted to discuss in the presence of a paulbot is ron paul. We’d like to discuss other things without paulbots hijacking every article and twisting into a ron paul campaign crusade. We can’t discuss newt, or romney, or santorum without a paulbot screaming “progressive” at every poster. We got it, you like him. I’m ok with that, but paulbots are not ok with anyone who doesn’t support paul. No one is allowed to offer a different opinion other than praise for paul….that’s not discussing. Also we want to discuss things here other than ron paul. Enough already.
Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:15pmGEORGE PATTON:
In case you missed it, this article is about Ron Paul.
Report Post »George Patton
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:31pm@wat
Report Post »Yea, that makes it the perfect place to let paulbots know what we think of them. Maybe you’re right though…I could have just as easily posted my comments on an article that has nothing to do with ron paul, because paulbots make every article about him.
Ming The Merciless
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:25pmGeorge Patton – PWNED! :-P
Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:19amSo I should take my gravy boat hat off?
Report Post »Susie
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:18amI agree. At first Ron Paul seemed a good solid candidate and I thought he really had a chance. Then I started seeing some of the ads and read about the letters he could not disassociate himself from and I began more and more to read comments from way too many of his supporters who were so angry and aggressive; so inflammatory and so outrageous that I had to conclude that as Paul made no objection, they fairly represented who he is. There is already a destructive, radical ideologue in the Whitehouse. The world doesn’t need or want another.
Report Post »Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:58amWith all the BS that has been going on the decade, you would have to be brain dead to not be angry.
Go graze, sheep.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:16amAgreed, your spot on Glenn.
Report Post »And to be fair, that huntsman video is circumspect in it’s origin, as the very first linkage is to the Huntsman campaign website ( source YouTube stats) and it appeares the poster had joined YouTube the same day the video was posted, with no other video on the channel. It’s highly unlikely the huntsman campaign could have “ heard rumors” of the video, being they were the first to link it, just saying. So to assert this video being attributable to a Ron Paul supporter is a bit conspiratorial of you three, IMHO.
That being said, I do read the infowars site, and I hurl when I read the over the top comments left by people there. But the articles are heavily linked to sources outside of infowars itself which lends credibility to most of the articles.
Frankly, who caused the act is not nearly as important to me as to stopping the massive reduction of my freedoms my government seems entitled to take telling me I‘m more safe because I’m less free. I‘m not in the fertilizer business and I’d prefer my government stop dumping it on my life saying it’s for my own good.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:12amGLENN
A simple plea asking you to respectfully walk through your disagreement with Ron Paul on foreign policy articulating which side of the difference is progressive and why.
Glenn has stated he is not for policing the world.
Glenn has stated he is not for Nation building
Glenn has stated he is not for foreign aid, including Israel
Glenn has stated he is not for defending other nations, including Israel
Glenn has stated he wants US out of UN
Ron Paul’s foreign policy
-Congressional declaration of war (as outlined in the Constitution)
-Defend America and American borders
-Wage war to win and to conquer, no nation building
-Stop using USA military (American lives and tax dollars) to police world and defend foreign Nations
-Stop aiding, defending, arming Muslim tyrants just because they have some oil
-Defund and leave UN
-George Washington’s farewell address attitude
I have a hard time seeing a difference. One I do recall is Glenn saying we have to protect “oil” so we are not cut off….If we bomb Iran what does Glenn think will happen to oil prices? Is it Progressive to give up principles and side with tyrants for foreign resources? Responsible?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:18amIs the Persian (Iran) Muslim tyrants such a threat with Nuclear technology that we must arm, defend, and financially aid Arab Muslims and essentially create the Arab Caliphate out of fear of the Persians?
We sold Saudi Arabia F-15′s
Saudi announced it plans to go nuclear
Muslim Brotherhood is a Sunni (Saudi) financed group
United Arab Emirates have nuclear technology
UAE just bought bunker busting bombs from US
Saudi just called for an ARAB State (Caliphate) to include Jordan, Yemen, Saudi, Pakistan, Qatar, UAE, and Egypt. All aided and armed by the US..Will this ARAB Caliphate then turn on Israel and cut off oil to America after we help the ARABS beat back the Persians….
Who’s the one with the crazy foreign policy?
Rick Santorum is for foreign aid to Muslim tyrants
Santorum is for siding with Saudi (Caliphate) to topple Persians (Iran)
Santorum is for defending Muslim tyrants
Rick Santorum is for policing the world
Rick Santorum is for the UN
Glenn, you disagree with Rick way way way more than Ron. You‘ve even said those holding Rick’s policies were crazy and progressive several times..
Explain yourself Glenn because right now you seemed mixed up…….
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:59am@ Oakie, very well stated. Thank you.
Report Post »C1ppy
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:02amThese posts never ever have any rebuttal from the Ron Paul naysayers, why is that? Because “The truth will set you free”! My Lord, I can’t tell you how many actual quotes, “Using his (their) own words” to prove the hypocrisy! “say what you mean, and mean what you say!” LOL
Report Post »louise
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:46amOkie, as always, a great post.
Here is a link for all those on here who still think Ron Paul is “unelectable”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iWvVze9Y4d0#!
And here is a link of Sen. DeMint explaining why he does not want Ron Paul to drop out (not that he is thinking of it).
http://www.dailypaul.com/203205/sen-demint-i-really-dont-want-ron-paul-to-drop-out
Ron Paul 2012 to Restore America! The years long grassroot effort to educate Americans about Liberty and our Constitution is paying off.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:12amAs usual… the Beck Crew… are Right On!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:22amYeah, we do tend to get a litttle ornry from time to time.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:25amLUKERW, you are absolutely correct. There are so many Paul supporters that are so creepy . Paul does not discourage this type of campaign tactics. His foreign policies scare the heck out of me. We need a strong foreign policy not some namby pamby president that backs down. Sorry to those of you that support him but honestly I believe that he could do allot of harm to our country if elected. The world for the most part wants to destroy us, we can’t show weakness. Some of his policies, I agree with but his foreign policy in my opinion wipes out any good idea that he has.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:03am@Pam
Report Post »Hi Pam
I’ve followed Ron for awhile, and one things for sure, he is not as articulate as I would like him to be. Not everyone is gifted in speech or pen, unfortunately Ron is a tad hampered in speech.
His issue isn‘t that he hasn’t a concrete, constructive, and wise plan for our nations defense. The issue is he is so well versed, that he tries to convey too much information in a two minute sound bite, which comes out disjointed to the ear of folk who aren’t as well versed on the subject matter as he is. I’ve written his campaign, but I believe that he verbalized much better when given proper time to expound upon his plans, as he illustrated in his speech after NH. Have you listened to the speech Glenn and the boys refer to from Paul?
A cliff notes version of Dr. Paula defense policy is. Defend Americas borders first, defend allies but don’t control them with money or occupying forces in country, and should anyone be foolish eneough to attack our nation…. Remove that nation from planet earth. As in how we fought WWII, all out to win. And most importantly, don’t send taxpayer money to our enemies or the UN.
Please consider researching Dr. Paul in more depth, but vote in the end for whom you like.
American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:17amThat’s because Ron Paul stands for liberty. How could he continue to stand on that liberty if he decided to boss around his supporters?
Even when it comes to his campaign, he believes in the individual grass roots, regardless of who supports him or how. How refreshing is that sentiment?
Freedom people… that’s what this is all about! Why are you all too dense to see that?!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:04amPandering to Racist “Rednecks”
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Wat Tyler
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:17pmHey “Pamela Kay”: You talk like a bad @ss tough gal who wants a trigger happy hothead in there like Santorum. Fair enough.
But how are you going to pay for it? We‘re broke in case you haven’t noticed.
History is full of examples of “tough” foreign policy without the resources to back it up. It always ends in disaster.
Look no further than:
Athens in the Peloponnesian War
Carthage in the Third Punic War
England in the 100 Years War
Spain in the 30 Years War
France in the Seven Years War (Known here as The French and Indian War; this was a classic example of a bankrupt economy trying to be the dominant world power. It eventually led to Louis XVI on the guillotine.)
And most recently, the bankrupt Soviet Union waging a war in Afghanistan. we all know what happened next.
We simply cannot afford this cowboy foreign policy, so you might as well get it out of your head.
After WW II yes, we were rich. But we squandered it by letting Europe get a free ride during the Cold War. Korea, Vietnam, and Bush‘s babies in Iraq and Afghanistan didn’t help.
Now we’re broke.
Report Post »SuperKlutz
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:09amI’ll agree that some Paul supporters are wacky, but that doesn’t change Dr. Paul’s message. And, who let that kook talking about conspiracies on the air with Beck? You say those people are nuts, and then give them the forum to spew their nuttiness. Why not have a rational supporter to make the case for Dr. Paul?
Regarding the Huntsman video, while it can’t be 100% proven, there is strong evidence that it was created BY THE HUNTSMAN CAMPAIGN!
Report Post »Swen Swenson
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:06pmRon Paul has rational supporters? Yes, I suppose there must be a few, but you’d never guess that by reading this comment thread. Take a hint boneheads, you’re your own worst enemies.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:29pmSWENSON:
Actually there is a lot of insight in the Paul defense on this thread. There are some tough questions that none of the Paul skeptics seem able to answer. Amny of his detractors only seem able to list a blanket dislike of his foreign policy as cause for his “lunacy”, but never describe where he is wrong or how they think the issue should be handled.
On the flip side, there are just as many, if not more, insulting and irreverent anti-Paul comments on this thread, too, including hosts of the radio show that created this site. You may not agree with everything a candidate says, but you should agree with the important things a candidate says. Many posters here seem to think this is the 1980s and we can afford to cowboy ourselves from nation to nation fighting off our foes on their shores.
This is not the case. We are dead broke and our defenses are spread paper thin across many end-game-less wars. Glenn dissed Paul in 2008 and then, shortly after the election was won by BO, he had Paul on his show as an expert. Now it is election season again and suddenly Glenn hates Paul?!?!
It is almost like we are being steered towards a GOP Obama.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:08amHowever, the conversation quickly turned from discussing Ron Paul the GOP candidate, to discussing some of his “overzealous” supporters:
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What overzealous supporters??:
“Glenn Beck (06/14/2011): Ron Paul is the closest to our Founding Fathers”
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RepubliCorp
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 3:06am(What overzealous supporters??) Thanks for the best laugh of the day!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:21am@Republicorp, You egg’em on.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:35pmThe fatal flaw in this thread is that the anti-Pauls are just as overzealous as the Paul supporters, a fact never mentioned.
Furthermore, The Blaze is Glenn’s creation. who here thinks Glenn is NOT overzealous?!? He wept on National TV and said overtly flawed statements about Obama disliking white people and insinuated that the Muslim Senator could not be trusted.
After 9/11 I started listening to Glenn rabidly. Why? Because he was overzealous with support for our country and I respected that and fed off that passion. Now he seems like he is creating a media empire and is looking to play ball with the power brokers to make it happen.
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