Global Movement Seeks to Convert People From ‘Democracy…and Capitalism to Islamic Ideology’
- Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:21pm by
Billy Hallowell
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In this Aug. 19, 2011 photo, members of Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia wave flags during a protest against corruption. At a time when al-Qaida seems to be faltering, the recruitment of an educated, somewhat mainstream following is raising fears that Hizbut Tahrir ("The Party of Liberation"), an enigmatic global movement, could prove more effective at radicalizing the Islamic world than outright terrorist groups. (AP Photo/Dita Alangkara)
JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) — The chanting crowd at the radical Muslim protest in Indonesia stood out for its normalcy: smartly dressed businessmen, engineers, lawyers, smiling mothers, scampering children.
At a time when al-Qaida seems to be faltering, the recruitment of such an educated, somewhat mainstream following is raising fears that Hizbut Tahrir, an enigmatic global movement, could prove more effective at radicalizing the Islamic world than outright terrorist groups.
Active in 45 countries, Hizbut is now expanding in Asia, spreading its radical message from Indonesia to China. It wants to unite all Muslim countries in a globe-spanning bloc ruled by strict sharia law. It targets university students and professionals, working within countries to try to persuade people to overthrow their governments.
The movement’s appeal to an often influential part of society worries experts. Its goal of an Islamic state may be far-fetched, but it could still undercut efforts to control extremism and develop democracy in countries such as Indonesia, which the U.S. hopes will be a vital regional partner and a global model for moderate Islam.
“Our grand plan over the next five to 10 years is to reinforce the people’s lack of trust and hope in the regime,” said Rochmat Labib, the group’s Indonesia chairman in a rare interview with a Western reporter. “That’s what we are doing now: converting people from democracy, secularism and capitalism to Islamic ideology.”
In this Aug. 19, 2011 photo, members of Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia shout slogans during a protest against corruption outside the presidential palace in Jakarta, Indonesia. (AP Photo)
Hizbut Tahrir, which means The Party of Liberation, is also raising its profile in the U.S. after operating largely underground since the 1990s. Its first major event was a 2009 conference, followed by another one in Chicago this June.
Starkly conflicting views swirl around Hizbut. It has been described as both a peaceful movement to restore one-time Islamic glory and a breeding ground for future suicide bombers, “a conveyer belt to terrorism,” in the words of Zeyno Baran, an expert on Islam in the modern world.
Banned in most countries, Hizbut remains legal in others, including the United States, Great Britain, Australia and Indonesia, where its leaders say it has spread to all 33 provinces. It is closely monitored everywhere, and often operates on the knife-edge of legality.
“The rhetoric they have goes to the fringe of democracy,” said Hans Joergen Bonnichsen, the former head of Denmark’s intelligence service. But the Danish Justice Ministry has twice asked the nation’s top prosecutor if Hizbut could be banned under Danish law, and both times the answer was no.
Its new frontier in Asia ranges from Indonesia and neighboring Malaysia to Pakistan and China, where Beijing has accused it of inciting violence among Muslim Uighurs in the remote west. It has also become the most widespread, and persecuted, radical Muslim group in Central Asia.
The Indonesia chapter is believed to be the largest, with a following estimated in the hundreds of thousands, according to Sidney Jones, an expert on Islam in Southeast Asia.
“They are a real force here. They are a greater long-term threat to Indonesia than people who use violence,” said Jones, a Jakarta-based analyst with the International Crisis Group think tank. “Collectively, hardline civil society can have a bigger effect than jihadists and terrorists.”
Her words are echoed by anti-terrorism expert Zhang Jiadong of China’s Fudan University, who said Hizbut is “more harmful than terrorist organizations, because it has more influence on ordinary people.” The group, estimated at up to 20,000 members in China, is more likely to foment riots or rebellions than terrorist attacks, he said.
Ismail Yusanto, the group’s urbane spokesman in Indonesia, insists that “we are a peaceful Islamic movement.”
“We believe people can be influenced by their environment, so so-called terrorists could be influenced by everyone, not just us. But Hizbut itself is committed to not being violent. There is no evidence,” he says, when asked whether some adherents later veer to violence.
The claims of nonviolence contrast with the movement’s fiery rhetoric, which calls for the annihilation of Israel – that’s what led to it being outlawed in Germany in 2003 – and exhorts Muslims to fight coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. One flyer shows a decapitated Statue of Liberty with New York City aflame in the background.
The U.S. State Department says the group “may indirectly generate support for terrorism but there is no evidence that it has committed any acts of terrorism.”
Hizbut followers may later “graduate” to terror under the tutelage of other groups. Often cited are the first British suicide bombers, Asif Hanif and Omar Khan Sharif, who attacked a Tel Aviv bar in 2001 and had past Hizbut links.
Reports have also linked Hizbut to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the Sept. 11 mastermind, and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the former al-Qaida chief in Iraq, but they have never been proven.
Hizbut calls for the establishment of a caliphate, uniting all Muslim nations under centralized Islamic rule in emulation of such entities that flourished in the past.
This is to be attained by changing Muslim mindsets to think beyond national borders, then pressing the message among political leaders, the armed forces and other power brokers until governments crumble.
Taquiddin an-Nabhani, a Palestinian lawyer who founded the movement in 1953, didn’t rule out violence during the last stage of creating the caliphate, or the possibility of fighting Western nations to protect it or expand it into non-Muslim countries. In earlier days, Hizbut staged failed coups in Jordan, Syria and Egypt, and it is now largely banned in the Middle East.
In Indonesia, Jones said, Hizbut appeals to those who believe that neither the country’s earlier dictatorship or present democracy has worked.
She said it has been able to infiltrate the top cleric body, the Indonesian Ulema Council, and local governments and exercises some clout on issues such as introducing sharia law, banning non-mainstream Muslim sects and opposing the operations of Western companies in Indonesia.
Unlike many Islamist groups, it welcomes women, who make up about a third of the membership, according to Ratu Erma, the head of its women’s organization. It also enjoys a following among parts of the elite.
“Some of them work by day in Jakarta‘s main business district making the wheels of capitalism turn and after work talk about overthrowing the country’s infidel system. It’s one of the conundrums about the HT,” says Greg Fealy, an Indonesia expert at Australian National University who is adamant that at least in Indonesia the group is nonviolent.
In Malaysia, young hard-liners disillusioned with the moderating stances of mainstream political parties have turned to Hizbut because “they feel it is sticking to Islamic principles more closely,” said Mohamed Nawab Mohamed Osman of Singapore’s Nanyang Technological University.
Nawab, an expert on the group in Asia, said that Hizbut, which barely filled a meeting room in Malaysia in 2004, recently drew more than 1,000 to a conference and is present in every state but one.
Leaders and followers interviewed in both countries dodge questions about their numbers and inner workings, even the whereabouts of the current global leader, Ata Khalil Abu-Rashta, except to say he is based in the Middle East.
Behind its public face, Hizbut is built along Marxist-Leninst lines with secretive cells as key building blocks. Nawab says “students” may go through up to five years of arduous training and indoctrination to prove their commitment and become members. Some 60 percent don’t make the grade.
Hizbut members have been imprisoned in Russia, Central Asian nations and elsewhere, but some experts say the broad definition of terrorism in these countries – rather than any acts committed – landed many of them in jail, and sometimes before execution squads.
Within the U.S., opinion is divided. The State Department doesn’t name Hizbut as a terrorist group, but the New York City Police Department, in a document obtained by The Associated Press, identified it as a “tier one extremist group” in 2006.
The British government came close to banning the group after the 2005 London bombings, and government officials say membership has shrunk to fewer than 2,000 members. But Britain remains an important base for fundraising, propaganda efforts and recruiting senior members. Many leaders in Indonesia and Malaysia were once asylum seekers in the U.K. who got an education and made connections and then returned home.
Ed Husain, who described his time as a British member in the 2007 book “The Islamist,“ said that globally the movement is ”strong, robust, growing.”
“I still believe that the message and ideology of Hizbut Tahrir is as potent as ever,” he said in an interview. “Their antidemocratic, anti-West, anti-Israel and anti-Muslim governments stance remains firm. As such, they implant confrontational, radical ideas and thus attitudes among young Muslims.”
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scout n ambush
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:23pmGuess i should have just wrote By The Way instead.
Report Post »NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:20pmAt least here in the U. S. of A, it boggles my mind as to why anyone would want to go from the peace, freedom and forgiveness of Jesus Christ (not to mention the freedom of this country) into one of literal slavery, subjugation, and brutality of a religion of hate and contempt of anyone who doesn’t agree with it.
NO THANK YOU
Report Post »Infidel49
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:14pmTime to take the gloves off and bring the fight to their doorstep. If that makes you feel faint, shut up and get out of the way.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 9:07pmWhat is creepy is just the look of hate on their faces.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 9:46pm49… I agree with that sentiment. I also agree with other comments I‘ve seen on this thread with regards to ’them’ already being here.
On that thought, I had a rather strange meeting Tues evening with two insurance agents from a well known company that sells ‘senior’ long-term policies.
Report Post »One was a white lady, and one was a tall man who was, obviously, originally from the Mid-East. On his card was his name, and it was similar to those we see in the news often.
After their sales attempt, I said that with our country’s current economic outlook, I felt the policy may be worthless if we experienced hyperinflation, or if our financial system collapsed.
Short version of the remainder of the talk:
After saying that if we did not get this President out of office our country was in deep trouble. Boy, did his mind go from insurance to politics in a hurry. He got very animated very quickly, and was what I would describe as agitated. I sensed it instantaneously. Out of the corner of my eye, the White lady placed her folders under her arm. She must have known there was no need to stay any longer. Her ‘partner’ had lost his focus.
He went into how Kennedy and Lincoln were shot over things they said in speeches, and you could sense an underlying dislike for the US. He felt the need to say he had been here for 30 years, and how he loved this country. I was not convinced a bit.
Knowing radical Islamists have ingrained themselves into our country, I have to wonder about this
decendentof56
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 9:59pmthis……guy.
He just was completely unprofessional. It was obvious I hit a nerve the way that he went off-topic.
If he wanted to sell an insurance policy, he should have just said something to alleviate my concern over his policies’ ability to withstand whatever the economy may have in store regarding senior long-term care. Instead, he went into a passionate speech about politics and how it relates to the US.
Very strange, his reaction.
I’m a pretty good judge of character, what with my long experience dealing with all types of people in my working years. This guy is suspect, in my opinion.
Report Post »kralspaces
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 10:25pmWhich doorstep should we start with?
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 10:46pmDid you see how the left is calling ‘Occupy Wall Street’ the Arab Spring of the United States… B.S.: http://www.americanparchment.com/video/2011/sep/occupy_arab_spring.html
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 2:21amGreat. A road straight to hell thru tyranny. Only an idiot would take that turn off.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 3:12amConvert me? not today, not tomorrow, not ever. You try to force me,,,,I guarantee you a fight you will never forget.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:47amMaybe they prefer being told they have to suffer each day in the name of their god…as opposed to suffering due to corrupt, thieving, liars stealing everything you own to line their own pockets.
Report Post »Cat
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:50amCome on people …
There are two ideologies fighting together for the same end results, but only one will claim to be the victor in the end.
Marxists
Islamists
Sean Hannity aired his, ‘Man On The Street’ the other day at the Wall Street ‘Days of Rage’ get together, and, the ‘man on the street’ was Natalie who claimed openly to be a Marxist.
On one hand, our government education system is indoctrinating by indifference not educating by learning through experience, and on the other hand, a sacred hypocrisy is teaching hate, not learning indifference through experience.
In the end, there is NO difference between them.
They both hate something they will never understand.
So why do we keep feeding our monster instead of using our resources to save our country?
Everywhere you look, if there is no money to be made, there’s no reason to be involved.
If there is no food on the plain, in the cave, up a tree, in the lake or under a rock, why hunt there?
It’s the basis of survival.
There are those who have discovered they can make money by destroying the very thing that feeds them.
The reality of their life is, life is finite, make it while you can.
The reality of life is … you die, live it.
Either everyone is stupid, or the ideology of any hate, is false.
I suggest the ideology of socialism, is hate, so why go there?
Report Post »It has proven itself a failure in the past, and is proving itself a failure now.
You have a choice, by God, take it.
euragone
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:38pmIslam is a Disease not a Religion. Its a religion of self righteous, immature, egotistica, wife beating, cement kissing men …
Report Post »uncledaddy
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:05pmAmerica better wake up to the dangers or extreme Islamic thinking, they want to destroy us.
Report Post »They get away with a lot because of left wingers who admire political correctness to the point
of being stupid. They will protect a Muslim from any offense, but let an American Citizen try
to pray in school and the ACLU will bring a lawsuit. I am sick about what my country is turning
into.
rambosharley
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 10:17pmMe too! It’s got to be reformed, not “fundamentally transformed”.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:04pm“..didn’t rule out violence during the last stage of creating the caliphate, or the possibility of fighting Western nations to PROTECT it or EXPAND it into non-Muslim countries.”
Report Post »This is a key sentence that nearly all naive, ignorant Americans (especially libs) & even our Nat’l Security ppl, probably all our Presidential candidates, & past Presidents didn’t get. They think these “moderates” are nonviolent and nothing to worry about – it’s only the few radical ones. NOT!!! They are just waiting for the opportune time (which is probably soon here) to call them to unite to expand/protect. They are just acting and saying they’re peaceful before the “end game”. When GWB said we needed to go over “there” to fight terror so we wouldn’t have to fight it “here” was a naive, ignorant statement only partially true ( I think we weakened AlQaeda). They are ALREADY HERE. They’ve been here for many years infiltrating…..great site for info/action: http://www.actforamerica.com
M 4 Colt
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:02pmIf they ever take over here in America i would rather DIE A FREE AMERICAN than convert to Islam, groups like this are all the more reason why our 2ND amendment rights are so important to us in this country, they afford us a way to fight back if the leadership of our country ever thinks it’s better to give in to groups like this other than fight them!
Report Post »Whirled Peas
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:33pmIslam is nothing more than an oppressive system of government masquerading as a religion. In fact, it’s a death cult.
It is NOT compatible with our Constitution or Bill of Rights and the sooner our elected tormentors figure this out, the better off we will all be.
This kow-towing to muslims has to stop. They are like liberals in the sense that the more space you give them, the more they take. Islam is a creeping cancer in this country and around the world that has to be kept in check or obliterated. Hard choices but inevitable.
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1872/muslim-population-projections-worldwide-fast-growth
Buy lead, not gold.
Report Post »M 4 Colt
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 9:42pmWhirled Pea, as per your last line of your comments, i too own a very large stock in a lead but will freely share it with people on the left, muslins and all others who stand in the way of our freedoms, i guess that must make he a giving person.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:45pmm4 make sure you have pork grease on the lead…at least they will know they won’t be allowed into paradise……………our milatary should do the same…………during the war between the british and india a rumor was started that cow was used in the making of the powder pack……….they would not use them
Report Post »Vital
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:44amThey will never take over here….our American populace is armed and ready to defend. We have that Constitutional right.
Report Post »bread and circuses
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:53amThe 2nd ammendment without organization, only puts a target on your back
Report Post »bread and circuses
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:05amthe hizbut tahrir will not come to your door with weapons and the quaran………..they will come with the Constitution, The Bible, and a search warrant.
Report Post »The american ppl, in general, are non-violent sheep with a blind adherence to current laws, as long as, the paperwork appears to be correct.
Morris
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:31pmDictator Barack Hussein Obama our Muslim-in-Chief is working with Saudi Arabia and the Muslim
Report Post »Brotherhood every day!
Dictator Barack Hussein Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood want to turn our America into their
“MUSLIM TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION”!
Wake up America, Dictator Obama and his complete Mexican-Muslim Loving Administration are
going all out to destroy our Republic our America!
Dictator Obamas last Executive Order a fews weeks ago was to bring 60,000 to 80,000 Muslims from
Somalia into our USA.
America, Look at all of the things that Dictator Obama is doing to our America,He is sending our
America into “FINANCIAL DISASTER”, All that Obama and his Corrupt Administartion want to do is for the Good of all of the “ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS’ Mexicans and Muslims that keep entering our USA from the Mexico Border!(THIS ADMIN. DON,T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT OUR AMERICA)!
Dictator Obama is writting up his Executive Order to give all “ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS”,,
Mexicans and Muslims that keep sneaking into our USA every day over the Mexico border,
“FREE LIVING AND AMNESTY TO ALL”ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS”, All Mexicans and Muslims
“FREE LIVING” on the BACKS OF THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS WORKING PEOPLES
TAX MONEY!
AMERICA, “IMPEACH THIS MUSLIM DICTATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA”, HE IS OUT TO DESTROY OUR AMERICA!
Wake up USA, This Obama Admin. and Saudi Arabia and the Muslim Brotherhood,and ALL OF THEIR,“MUSLIM BLOOD OIL MONEY” are out to destroy our USA!
IMPEACH THI
Ookspay
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:59pmGood news, let them stay busy with civil wars and killing each other. Muslims killing muslims, yessir very good news indeed. Keep stirring the pot CIA, Great work Boys!
Report Post »webpreacher
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 2:29pm@ASHESTOASHES, That my friend is very interesting, I did log on and I have to tell you it seems very credible to say the least. I’ll tell you right now that I do plan on researching this, for it this is true, then it changes everything concerning the Catholic cults credibility. Not that I need to be convinced, I have God’s pure Holy inerrant Word, The KJV Bible, I already know Catholicism is False Doctrine. Anyone thanks for the link….great stuff !
Report Post »skippy6
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:59pmI can see gun sales going through the roof very soon! The time is getting short something is going to break!!!
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:58pmTheir Koran commands them to spread their murderous religion and to kill the infidel,I‘m just wondering if the precious independent voters will wake up before it’s too late.We‘re simply not killing enough of them and fast enough and our Marxist in chief can’t use the word victory when speaking about the war on terrorists.The moronic progressives say we haven’t declared war,war was declared on us 9/11/2001 and anyone who took the oath to defend the constitution knew what needed to be done.
Report Post »When Iran perfects their nukes they will nuke Israel and Israel will respond in kind,I hope Israel has enough to eliminate the barbarians and make the world a lot safer.
eshaw380
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:57pmSoon only the American people (between the mountain ranges) will be left to stand against the entire world. I will fight, I will stand up, and fire until I run out or until I’m taken down. But the bottom line is I WILL STAND AND FIGHT. Just Bring It…
Report Post »shariah_dies_in_America
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:46pmAmen! Bring it on! I will be standing until they kill me, or I kill all of them!
Report Post »Old-Hippie-Patriot
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:55pm“Lets Roll”
Report Post »brickmoon
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:56pmShould‘ve shipped them in to fill the ranks for California’s “Days of Rage” — anti-capitalist..check… overthrow government…check…
They’d fit in well, but these folks are better dressed.
Report Post »brickmoon
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:05pmNot to mention the whole annihilate Israel thing.
Hey, I told you not to mention that!
Report Post »Netsurfer2
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:53pmLOL… should I wear a rag on my head and say “you must follow my ways”??? This is America, not like the country you come from! We will fight for our rights and always win!
Report Post »the real politically incorrect
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:52pmBeen saying this for awhile!!!
Report Post »I SPY
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:49pmNuke them all. It’s the only way this dumb war will ever end. Suck it up and do it.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 3:24amActually, if you are going to go to that extreme, you might just hit the Kaaba with a very small nuke. If one of Islam’s “5 Pillars” is physically destroyed, then can Islam still exist? Think about it. No need to kill millions, just put a big crater on a couple of acres in Mecca.
Report Post »clockwatcher
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:46pmIslam is not a religion it is a mental illness.
Report Post »webpreacher
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:03pmActually CLOCKWATCER, it is more like a possession, being demonically influenced and brainwashed, It is a religion though, like the rest of the world’s religions, started by a man !!
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:34pmSin is actually insanity, and visa versa. Islam is the perfect picture of both, nomatter how they want to paint it.
Report Post »Mrtoohappy
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:46pmIf this ever happen the world will go back to the stone age. Some of these young people have never been to school. They are just sheep being lead by mad men.
Report Post »motherof18
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:38pmToo many Americans are falling for the Muslim propaganda that preemptive killing of these monsters is against the constitution. When the Muslims outnumber the Christians in our country the constitution will be replaced by the Koran. We better get to slaughtering their leaders and fast. There is no appeasing them, there is no reasoning with them, there is no compromising with them, there is only the killing of them.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:22pmAmen.
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:36pmFertility rates work against socially and reproductively responsible Americans. If you can feed and cloth them then go forth an multiply good patriots of the USA. Only if we are able to sustain and grow our numbers is there a chance against the Islamification of the United States.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:36pmI agree. The war is coming. No compromise.
Report Post »Morris
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:44pm“WE THE PEOPLE” Must get this Dictator Barack Hussein Obama our Muslim-in-Chief out of our WhiteHouse now!
Report Post »Dictator Obama is working to destroy our America from wright inside of our Whitehouse!
The biggest “TERRORIST’ In our United States Of American is sitting in our Whitehouse!
IMPEACH THIS MUSLIM DICTATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA NOW,SAVE OUR COUNTRY!
The Divided States of America
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:38pmThe demonic minions are moving fast, fear not my Christian brothers and sisters, ive read the book and ive seen the movie…Jesus wins !!!
Report Post »MaxineH20Sux
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:51pmAmen!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:37pmNah…I’m good; smelling clean, shaven and not afraid of competition.
Report Post »usa91773
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:34pmAmazing how you guys find this stuff, bet I won’t see this in NBC.
His much did you have to pay these actors to prove your point? LOL kidding
Report Post »Fight for America
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:31pmSo instead of pulling themselves up into the 21st Century and out of the Stone Age they want to drag others down.
Jealousy? Laziness? Power trip? Excuse laid on a religion so they can abuse their women and children without looking at themselves in the mirror?
Wake up America.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:30pmThe temptation to blow them all to hell and gone is the one temptation the GOOD LORD needs to “deliver us from…”
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:43pmAgreed.
Report Post »obama-mecca-me-sick
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:29pmYou mean this is REAL????????
Report Post »I thought this was just the rantings of crazy ol’ Glenn Beck.
Go figure….
chips1
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:49pmNope! It‘s the crazy rantings of ol’ B.O.
Report Post »W@nd@
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:29pmconvert or FORCE! which do you mean….
Report Post »booger71
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:27pmDuh
Report Post »what4
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:30pmMemo to the radicals…..we have more missles, bullets and people willing to use them, also we throw rocks a whole hell of a lot better! Sissy lalalalala’s!
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