GM Overestimates Chevy Volt Fuel Efficiency By…130 MPG?
- Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:38pm by
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In August 2009, General Motors CEO Fritz Henderson announced that the new Chevrolet Volt, GM’s first electric car, would get an estimated 230 miles per gallon. The faltering car company hoped that the exceptionally high government mileage rating could give the Volt a major sales boost. “Having a car that gets triple-digit fuel economy can and will be a game changer for us,” Henderson predicted.
But more than a year later, the Chevy Volt is finally ready to hit sales lots, but may give Henderson his own sticker shock. The EPA mileage rating for the Volt now stands at 93 mgp, significantly less than previous predictions. The Volt‘s rating comes just days after Nissan’s own electric vehicle, the Leaf, received an estimated 99 mpg rating.
So why the huge discrepancy? GM claims it has been working cooperatively with the EPA for years, but the agency reportedly says it had not tested a Volt until just recently.
According to CNN, drivers will be able to drive the Volt for about 40 miles using the car’s lithium-ion batteries. For those driving more than 40 miles at a time, the Volt will use gasoline.
If a car is driven 50 miles in a day, the first 40 miles will use gas and the last 10 miles will use 0.2 gallons — the equivalent of 250 miles per gallon. But, if the driver drives 80 miles, total fuel economy drops to about 100 mpg; 62 mpg for 300 miles.
So while it’s official sticker estimate is significantly lower than the estimated 230 mpg GM boasted a year ago, the good news for GM is that they are now ready to hit sales lots. The bad news (for consumers)? It retails for more than $40,000.
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Comments (376)
Puddle Duck
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:16pmI give this car and the curent FM about 2 years before the wheels fall off (again).
The Unions are the problem and the “green movement” is quickly fading ( it was based on a ginat fraud to begin with). The “green movement” has Spain on the verge of complete collapse. If you cannot convince the Chinese and India to “go green” (which is pointless and they know it) then what worth is it to the US to furtther cripple itself in this fashion ? It won’t help a single bit with Carbon emissions….It’s stupid to persue an agenda that is clearly self destructibve (to all ).
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:15pmGeorge Gilder: all you’re doing with electric cars is trading tail pipe emissions for smoke stack emissions.
Crank up those coal-fired power plants and charge my car, baby!!
Report Post »jmrec100
Posted on November 29, 2010 at 10:58amYep. No lib eco global warming tree hugger even considers this. But they feel good. And another is the battery production. Right now there is one regular battery in a car. I had worked previously within a 7 mile radius of a battery factory and they had to post carcinogen and pollution hazard warnings. Now they produce only ONE battery per car. Now with these eco-terrorist cars, they will be bigger and even more hazardous to produce. The area they are made in will have the ‘benefit’ of even more hazardous exposure . Thank you !! And then there is the additional hazards to our paramedics, firemen, police and other rescuers! When in an accident , the battery can basically electify the car do to the electrical connection being made due to the battery and wires being in contact with the car. When the jaws of life are used, they typically have to cut thru metal which may now be in electrical contact and not even mentioning the fluid contact of the battery. Gee, another great idea brought to you by those same who brought us the MERCURY laced energy bulbs. Trade one hazard for a potentially more dangerous other. Do any of these ‘people who want to feel good” think? Developing other sources are good but by no means is it excluding and instead of the current.
Report Post »I am for real
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:12pmThis was solved years ago, A crash course today, because exams are tommorrow. I‘m sure this won’t FLY.
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:12pmI live near Flint MI where the VOLT is HUGE news. I would not buy one I would not drive one if it were given to me. and I STILL want to know how much it will cost to CHARGE this toy car.
Report Post »armed patri0t
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:28pmonly because you hate coloreds!
ConservativeFeminist
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:43pm“Armed Patriot” a/k/a “Armed Socialist” – REAL Pro-Constitution Patriots come in all sizes, shapes and colors. YOU are the racist.
Report Post »wash1776
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 7:05am13TH GENERATION! You are without a doubt the NASTIEST, MOST INSULTING PERSON ON ANY BLOG!
Report Post »theVirginian
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 8:07pm@ Wash1776 – he is a 13 year old who feeds on pulling your chain – the more you respond, the more he will post (nongender specific “he” of course). He isn’t even in the same league as the nastiest posters – don’t flatter him, ignore him.
Report Post »mikenleeds
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:09pmI test drove that POS and they are lying big time about the mileage ,, the Nissan leaf is a much better car and you don t have to sell your house to buy it …
Report Post »Ken
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:07pmAnother lie from Obama’s Government Motors. Just like when Obama’s CEO for GM said they paid back the taxpayers. Don’t believe anything associated with Obama. He is a Fraud and a liar and so are his friends.
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:02amAmen Again!
Report Post »olduffer
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:04pmMy last 3 cars were GM but going forward I have owned my last one. Only when ALL former bondholders and the govt. has been repaid and the company is union free they will again be worthy of my consideration.
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:58amAmen!
Report Post »Lace
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:04pmBy the way, can it withstand the wind? I want a car that can keep up with the wind when I am rolling past an 18 wheeler!
Report Post »awizard
Posted on November 29, 2010 at 11:39amerm, don’t worry ’bout it … it won’t “Roll past an 18 wheeler” … hmmm … you might have to worry ’bout them Rolling past you though …
Report Post »sportlock
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:00pmAs someone who sold cars for over 15 years @ the #1 Chevy dealer in Cincinnati, Ohio. 1 thing catches my eye….A whole window sticker and no PRICE!!!! Should be in the bottom right corner.
In a nutshell, the people who can afford high gas prices are also the only ones who can afford one of these POS’s. Kinda like the ones who can afford a high payment always have a payment 100-200 less the people who can afford a high payment the least. .
Report Post »armed patri0t
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 10:40pmliar! troll, thieve
WILLIAM E.
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:58pmGovernment Motors lies like the president. Wonder if 60 minutes will do a show on this lie::::
Report Post »armed patri0t
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:26pmObama has never lied in his entire life. He has 14 hole in 1′s the first time he played golf on a 19 hole course! He does not use the bathroom, he is eternal!
338lapua
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:22pm@a.p. please go away.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 8:54pmand Armed Patriot isn’t me!!
Report Post »ConservativeFeminist
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:58pm~~Anyone who purchases a Volt is a Dolt~~
Report Post »armed patri0t
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:24pmyou’re a dolt with a volt!
ConservativeFeminist
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:46pm“Armed Patriot” a/k/a “Armed Socialist” – if you can’t post anything intellectual or worthwhile, please just go away.
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:18am13thgenerati0namerican, how many login names do you have, now? 13th, Armed Patriot, M31Sailor, Walkwithme1966? And do you get paid separately for each? Who pays you? The PuffinHo’s, MediaMutters, Spooky-dude?
Report Post »Diamond Girl
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:56pmIn the words of Rep. Joe Wilson~
‘You Lie!’
Report Post »Lace
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:56pmShoot, all my kids are over 6 feet tall. They can’t fit in this tiny little car, and the price is too damn high!!
Report Post »Pucci
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:53pmThis vehicle is such a horrible idea. Didn’t obama say our enegy bills will have go up? Where will the savings come from? Oh thats right- it’s for the good of mother earth.
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:58pmyou my friend have no idea what you are talking about. The president does! America is going to have to go green before it turns all brown like a bannana peal! you guys need to get thses hybrids. No More Muscle Cars!
WhiteFang
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:52pmSo, you get 93 MPG for only 35 miles driven. After that you get 37 MPG. This means you get 35 miles for free, then it is pretty much a 35 MPG car. That is the problem with electric vehicles, no range.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:10pmIts a coal fired car. No such thing as an electric car. Have to burn something to generate the electricity.
Report Post »GnomeChomsky
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:52pmUnless you live in Iceland where all their electricity is produced by thermal activity
Report Post »afroggy
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:56pmHey! That Volt stinks on mileage compared to my Prius. Shooting from the hip, I’d say the Toyota beats it be ~40%, and the Volt is about twice as expensive. As happened in Soviet Russia, the government builds a lousy car once again.
Am I missing something here, or did the Japs beat they US government on this one?
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:08amYeah and you have to wash the coal with drinking water to make it clean coal at least until it is burned…
Report Post »SoCalWalt
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:50pmGuess that cross-country trip’s gonna take awhile when you have to recharge for several hours every 50 miles or so.
Report Post »Oil_Robb
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:08pmcan you imagine, you wont need a syphening hose anymore……just wait untill your neighbor goes to bed and run your extension cord to the outlet beside his house and set your alarm clock for 6 a.m. and pull your cord back under the fence..lolol
Report Post »armed patri0t
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:37pmoil robb, you better not! I tell you what, if you get caught I tell you what!
HippoNips
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:50pmElectricity isn’t free, check your utility bill.
Report Post »Gruug
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:49pmVolt….the GM version of the Edsel.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:17pmNo, the Edsil probably will be rated on the trash bin of history higher than the Volt.
Report Post »RedinLouisville
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:49pmI guess if you use your 40k car to go to the neighborhood store once a week it’ll pay for itself eventually, i think?
Report Post »Alvin691
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:44pmYea, good point. Calculating the cost difference in a 17k vs 40k vehicle would be interesting.
Report Post »StevenMitchell
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:49pmI own a GMC Sierra. It’s been a good truck for me, but when General Motors became Gov’t Motors they lost me as a customer for life. I’ll take a Ford please and you can keep your 93 mpg.
Report Post »what4
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:42amThis this is a POS, and the Fed just bailed them out again by buying a sheet load of them! Screw the Unions and GM. Hear that GM…Former life long Chevy guy here!
Report Post »youguysready_letsroll
Posted on November 29, 2010 at 11:25amI‘ve had 3 Chevy’s and had always disliked GM’s rival, Ford. I love the new body style of the GMC fullsize, but I’m going to have to take a serious look at the Ford truck when I can afford to. I’d rather buy a truck manufactured in Norfolk, VA by a privately owned company than one government and union owned.
Report Post »NO_POTTERSVILLE
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:48pmWell, an average 93 MPG is nothing to sneeze at. The price tag is a tad high though…
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:00pmYou right guys have some learnin to do! you are un-educated!
Beeree
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:06pmYeah, 93 until you take a long trip and can’t plug your car in when you go to bed at night or just drive more than about 90 miles a day. For 40K it should generate it’s own power and never need plugged in.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:15pm@13th
There are other electric hybrids costing half as much as the Volt or Vehicle On Lenghtly Towing.
If something looks, walks, and smells like a skunk then chances are good it is a skunk.
Report Post »Shackleford
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:38pmBeeree, but it does generate its own power. Didn‘t you listen to the lyrics in the Volt’s theme song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvwTMZNWGuk
Here’s a snippet:
FROM THE FOLKS AT CHEVROLET
Report Post »CHEVY VOLT IS ON ITS WAY
IT CAN MAKE A CLEANER WORLD
** A GREENER CAR THAT POWERS ITSELF **
YOU GET UP TO 40 MILES EMISSION-FREE CLEAN ENERGY
AFTER THAT BIO FUEL OR GAS WILL POWER YOUR JOURNEY
TexasHillsPatriot
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:59pmWhy is it that no one considers the price of electricity, the life of the battery and the cost of replacement in their calculations when considering if this is a worthwhile car to buy? You really need to take all costs into consideration when making such an expensive purchase, unless you believe that you will spend any amount to “save the environment”. What is the life expectancy of the battery? How much would a new battery cost? Just asking …
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:16pm@13th…of course we are peanut, of course we are. You just keep thinking that. And we will continue to drive the economy while you left folks sit in the back seat and scream orders! GFY!!
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:33pm338 why do you have to come in here with a comment that makes sense? can’t you see I am in charge of all of this nonsensical drivel? I am just here to stir the pot. I know what you are saying, I agree. Take it elsewhere, I am the thread
wash1776
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 7:01am13th GENERATION You are such an IDIOT. MOVE TO RUSSIA!
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on November 29, 2010 at 12:08amI need to have that 93 MPG explained to me – the car can run 35 miles on batteries only (all electric), and when it runs all gas, it gets what, 34 MPG (on par with a non-hybrid Ford Fusion, BTW) – how do you hit 93 MPG?
I think the Gov’t, in collusion with GM, has rigged the rating to benefit the Volt.
If the car runs 35 miles, it gets “infinite” miles to the gallon, since no gas was burned.
If the car runs 70 miles. it uses about 1 gallon of gas (for second 35 miles on gas), for about 70 MPG
If it runs 50 miles. it burns about a half a gallon of gas (for 15 miles on gas), giving it about 100 MPG
Even GM Marketing droids claim about 60 MPG over the life of the car for the average consumer.
Once these cars are “in the wild” the truth will be known, and the Volt will (likely) die.
Report Post »troyvar
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:48pmI own 3 GM vehicles, won’t even consider buying a new one until the government and union are completely out of ownership, and every penny is paid back to the robbed bond-holders and the taxpayers.
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:59pmUnions are esential for our economy and for our situations!
sportlock
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:02pmTake a guess which companies made the most money outta the governments cash for clunkers program..?
Wait for it….
HONDA AND TOYOTA!!!!
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:08pmunions are nothing more than organized crime…..just like when the unions started, they continue.
Report Post »billwas22
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:08pmSince when were unions essential to the economy? They were useful years ago when slave wages were paid; now, they only feed themselves to the detriment of all other working people.
Report Post »armed patri0t
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:21pmhaymarket massacre was no mob! you are an idiot and need to go back to the history books! the union saved the middle class from 80 hour work weeks and kids in sweat shops! I have knives!
ConservativeFeminist
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:40pm“Armed Patriot” is praising the unions as saving the middle class – it‘s ’great’ Socialist minds like “Armed Patriot” that caused our nation’s manufacturing sector to be moved overseas.
Report Post »dcwu
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:46pmRestrict unions to within-company bargaining units. Change the law.
Industry-wide and international unions are economic suicide on a world-wide scale. They are literally organized crime as they exist now, and the comintern has long taken full advantage of their span-of-power to foment revolution.
Report Post »troyvar
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:48pmSeems to me that the unions no longer care about the worker, they care about THEIR power and paychecks.
Report Post »ZaphodsPlanet
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:00pmDon’t forget we Shareholders… that also got a major screwing…. all shares were replaced with some bogus company called Asset Liquidation Corp…. or something like that. Last I saw they were up to like $0.36 a share…..LOL. ******** raped us all…. but the bondholders even more so. Obama should be brought up on charges for breaking every contract law that ever existed in the United States. I will NEVER and I mean NEVER buy anything out of GM for as long as I live…. and I encourage everyone I know to do the same. Screw BO, Screw GM and SCREW the UNION RAPISTS!
Report Post »Knight Templar
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:12pm@13thgenerati0namerican
Report Post »I have over 40 years in a union. No they are not.
13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:37pmknight templar you go back to protecting your ark, and leave this thread alone! MO-RON
Dont Drink Cool Aid
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 10:26pmUnions destroy free enterprise and entrepreneurship when ever they’re in control…..look at Detroit!!! Please look at Detroit and our eduction system….now second rate. Outlaw unions.
Report Post »diesel71dan
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 10:57pmSame here. I have always been a Chevy fan and always owned GMs but not any more. When it becomes time to retire the Duramax I will have to buy a dodge or Ford. Never thought I would say that but I wont own a GOVERNMENT Motors. I see no use in the world for this Volt thing. I wonder how well it pulls a 4 horse trailer up a 20% mountain grade?????? LOL
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:38am13th what took you so long to get here? My family has been here since 1609 and in Texas Terrotory since 1820.
Report Post »Which of those Communist do you like best? Does Geo. Soros pay you to troll among the adults and Patriots of America…
NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:51amREF: billwas22
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:08pm
Since when were unions essential to the economy? They were useful years ago when slave wages were paid; now, they only feed themselves to the detriment of all other working people.
You are so right. the socialist came in and ruined it in the late 60′s-70′s. I was a member of 4 unions and they were the end of me. It is a long story but they ended up with so much power in human resources they were able to get rid of me when I blew the whistle on them and they did not suffer but a 3 day layoff when they should have been terminated by company rules. The company was too afraid to pusue it.
It was an aerospace company in Dallas now named Northrop Grumman.
Report Post »wash1776
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 6:58am13TH GENERATION Wake up dummy! Most unions are DESTROYING OUR ECONOMY!
Report Post »Ed Kidon
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:47pmAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!
Report Post »Stop the insanity, Please. No. Really. Please.
WhiteFang
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:46pmNot many people are going to shell out $40,000 for one of these.
Report Post »RedinLouisville
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:52pmif i’m shelling out 40k for something, it’s going to be able to go really fast, and not bog down going uphill.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:55pmThe reason why “ALTERNATIVE ENERGY” is “ALTERNATIVE ENERGY” is that it cost more; otherwise, it would be primary energy. Most “ALTERNATIVE ENERGY” also deprives our plants of the carbon dioxide they require to grow. Do you enjoy fruits and vegetables? http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »Oil_Robb
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:04pmObama had the gov. buy 40% of them to boost the sales numbers….nobody with 1/2 a brain buys that crap.
Report Post »armed patri0t
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:20pmI’ll shell out a few bullets if I need to kill a deer or cow when the appocolypse comes!
ConservativeFeminist
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:37pm“Armed Patriot” = a Socialist in Patriot’s clothing.
Report Post »uneedmorekoolaid
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 11:47pmdid anyone enlarge the EPA sticker it shows the yearly cost for fuel at$1302.00 vs. $601.00 for all electric, except that they have the fuel proce at $3.20 a gallon where are they getting this average price, if your buying a compact car you are not running premium gas in it!
It says MPG equivilant is based on 33.7kWh= 1 gallon of gasoline energy but that is also based on 11 cents per kWh which when you do the math is like paying $3.71 a gallon in gasoline energy! So it is higher by at least 50 cents a gallon even with their lopsided 3.20 a gallon figure!
Can’t wait to be towing these morons! “oh you have to put gas in it?!“ ”can’t u just recharge it here on the side of the road?“ ”i thought my office was closer but I stopped for a donut on the way to work guess it was 37 miles away from home”
Make sure to tell these idiot car buyers to stick their tongue into the electrical wall socket to test it first before they plug in the car!
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:41amReminds me of Hitlers (he was a socialist) Volkswagen like the one made in Mexico by anti-Americans.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:46pmHonestly, the newest Government Motors designed and approved eco-screwed up car, should be called the Lame Duck or Spruce Goose instead of the Volt. They lied to us in the beginning and still lie to us today, no suprise that the thing was falling apart – especially as when POTUS was only allowed to drive it a total of 10 feet for a test spin.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm
mizflame98
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:55pmThe irony is if you drive highway speeds, the Volt switches over to gas since the battery power can’t handle those speeds. GM is the government sponsored snake oil salesmen
13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:56pmsecondiessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
liberal for eva!
13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:58pmyou are retart
Dustyluv
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 7:59pmI wouldn’t have a GM product if it got a million miles to the gallon…
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:05pmSo its nothing more than a town car……equivelant to an expensive golf cart. Not worth the wait….I’ll stick to my gas guzzling truck-I have more fun with it and can do more.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:08pmOK FOLKS……..
Report Post »There is no such thing as an electric car. It burns Coal or Natural gas in most parts of the country and probably after battery disposal and change out every few years is less efficient then a suburban. The joke is on the dumb consumer who buys the smart car:) Just don’t think of that dirty coal fired power plant while driving.
Beckofile
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:13pmOh… and don’t forget the stip mining operation that has to provide the coal, and the machinery that has to burn huge amounts of fuel to extract the coal, and the train which has to transport the coal long distances, and the power grid that needs to be built and maintained, But if your an urban elitist you can disregard all this and just feel like you are doing something clean and ecofriendly…Jack wagons.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:15pmSo the science is settled, right ?
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:16pm@silent watcher
I feel the golf cart would probably work better for longer time than the government designed vehicles.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:26pmHow much does it cost to replace the batteries in a year or two? And I don’t mean just for the batteries but the cost of labor, disposal of the old batteries, etc,. Sound like a real rip off to me.
Report Post »PeterThePainter
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:27pmI think this is the most “out there” thing the Government has done…well maybe not. On one hand the Government is stressing energy effiency by way of solar panal systems and wind mills….because the GRID can’t handle the needs….so higher energy prices…then says plug 20 million cars into the grid…..makes no sense at all…………
Report Post »PeterThePainter
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:29pmOh, forgot to say China is building natural gas vehicles….we have an abundance of that fuel………
Report Post »dcwu
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:35pmLies, damned lies, and statistics. Tyranny-R-US.
Report Post »ConservativeFeminist
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:36pm“Armed Patriot’ is a SOCIALIST – please go back to the Huffington Post.
Report Post »FORLORNHOPE
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:37pmI have been told if this car dies that it can not be towed, you can not push it around the wheels that turn to charge it can not be moved. Only a GM mechanic can work on them to get them moving again because the software needs to be reloaded. I have been told that if one of these things has wrecked that when the fire department shows up they can not use a jaws of life to cut up the car to get people out of the car. Because there is a big cable in the frame that is hot with enough DC electricity to fry you into a crisp…its like stepping on the 3rd rail. The resale value after 3 years is ten grand and to replace the battery is 12 grand. Anyways that what I heard, is there a Chevy mechanic who can confirm or deny this?
PeterThePainter
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 8:40pmAnyone wonder why on one hand the Government says eleltricity prices are going to skyrocket, so lets buy/build electric vehicles and why California says water prices are going to skyrocket while the world is building desalination plants to make sea/ocean water drinkable and why the whole global warming thing has been put on the back burner……..we are sheep headed to the slaughter house
Report Post »White Devil
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:28pmSnowleopard, why do you continue to flaunt the “Blaze” rules you signed on to when you signed up? Is that how you act in all your matters? The rules don’t apply to you? Everybody is watching you thumb your nose at the rules.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:40pmTo PeterthePainter -
1. Anything that sounds too good to be true probably is.
2. Our town ran out and bought one of the first natural gas cars produced as a sign of commitment to “green” technology. That was a number of years ago. The Fire Department now has it, much to their dismay. It turned out to be unreliable, would stall in the most god awful places (apparently while making a left turn through a busy intersection while responding to a call); can’t be repaired by the local mechanics and needs a new gas tank or some other vital piece of equipment not easily available. I suspect that the moment they can legally dump the car, it will suffer a most unfortunate accident, probably witnessed by at least half of the department (who rumor has it, may be cheering wildly).
You can call me a pessimist, but I suspect that the fate of the electric car will be similar.
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:52pmWhy is it that any run-time on electric is considered free? It is like saying my car gets 1000mpg, provided I am driving down a steep hill for the whole trip! With electric rates going up, the electric part of the run may become the most expensive part, While consuming a large amount of coal at the ultimate far end of the wire. I am reminded of the 1970s when electric heat first became popular. Electric companies would give special rates of a penny per Kwh if you installed it. Wonder how those folks that got scammed on that feel! Here we go again!
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 10:00pm@Taquoshi
Suggestion to pass onto the fire department for the LNG car; send it to the mythbusters with a polite request to send the car away for good. Preferably with dynamite or other spetacular effects they can come up with (painting it with thermite and torching it seems well done.)
Report Post »Dont Drink Cool Aid
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 10:21pmNot the Chevy Volt, but Dolt.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 11:03pmI‘m going to turn a blind eye toward anyone who just decides they’re going to try and get around the Federal taxes while the Marxists are in office. Redistribution of wealth is theft.
And yes, that means I don’t want the Department of Education, Social Security, Medicare, or Obamacare. All of the money that these programs dole out belong to someone else – it’s not our money, and so to take away these programs will not deny us anything we are owed.
And let’s privatize the National Highway System as well – we don’t need insurance, because the courts are where we’re supposed to get our justice. If someone can’t recompense another for accidents which damage their person or property, then the courts can put the offender to work to pay off the debt he owes to the victim or the victim’s family.
But requiring insurance of any kink, including car insurance, is penalizing someone before they have been proven to have done something wrong, and it is theft because they would not otherwise have chosen to buy it.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 11:05pmCemoto78,
A little over a year ago someone I know built his own battery operated car in california. Long story short… he had a bad accident where the battery cell broke open and all fluids leaked out. Being that california has a zillion rules about chem spills it was an expensive clean-up operation. He got a bill for over $12,000 dollars!
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 11:10pmarmed patri0t,
I pray you get life or the death sentence if you do. You might get off using the insanity plea. Almost any jury will buy it if you are honest and tell them you are a slimy Marxist in disguise.
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »staythecourse
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 11:38pmA free market economy would encourage research and creative design for a car that truely meets the needs of the future. The government is restricting and controlling everything including creativity. Diverting agricultural lands into production for fuel is a moral obsentity. We now have a whole car production program geared to using corn based alcohol fuel and we could have had something much better if the free market had been encouraged. With respect to these electric cars…. they still need energy. It is just electric energy. No savings there, especially with the price of electricity in Pennsylvania!
Report Post »uneedmorekoolaid
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 11:52pmit takes 8 hours to charge at a regular 120 volt outlet, guess these people will have to put in a full day at work in order to get home no checking out early!!!
haha goverment sucker punches you again!!!!
No running to get lunch anymore you might not make it home!!
No staying out late either, garunteed they don’t last as long with the lights on and you need a full 8 hours to charge to get to work in the morning!! suckers!!!
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:31amThey never paid us back from the billions of loans as they say they have. Obama took out shares in the name of the government on GM in lieu of payment back.
And why us he holding the 400 billion left on the timulas pkge? He said he was gong to have a begger and better military than the national one. Is he outfitting the attack against us?
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:37amAnd just like their so called Hybrid 1/2 ton trucks. They are nothing more than fast-on off at stop lights technology any one remember the old foot button starters of the 56 pickups… You could actually move a truck with those starters and that is what they have put in the new “Hybrid Trucks”, nothing GM has done is new technology. They just wrap old hardware in new tech to make it moderately effective and live up to new standards.
Chrysler was the only car company in the 70‘s to meet the Corporate CAFE’ standards with products built by the company in the US, they downsized and moved to FWD cars. And now they are on the brink of extinction again. This time it is FORD led by an Aviation CEO that rebounded and they are the ones that are leading the industry in the US for manufacturing but they have to do it outside the US since Labor costs are what is killing the Automobile Industry in the US…
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 6:17amI hope they have those hugh batteries perfected so that they will not explode or catch fire. I remember the problem with laptop batteries suddenly exploding and burning. It will be a long long time before I will ever trust one in my garage.
Report Post »wash1776
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 6:48amTO 13 GENERATION You are the ******!
SheriS
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 7:23amAnd the fact we have been lied to by this government comes a s a surprise to you? Telling untruths to the American public seems to be more the norm then telling the truth to we peons who pay the bills! This President and his minions believe we are too stupid to know real facts are very different from their truth! So fed up with their garbage and their lies!
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 7:48amWHITEDEVIL, haven’t noticed you on this site much so why concern yourself with SNOWLEOPARD as he has been here since the beginning and brings alot of good information to the site. If it bothers you, please feel free to leave and mind someone else’s business as many of us are “blog” friends and are here to learn and share not tattle-tale.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 8:27amWow… id there anything new that you folks don’t hate? Well, I suppose fake news websites…
GM has been getting killed by Asian companies that offer more fuel efficient vehicles for years. So, as a business they are trying to correct this problem and keep people in their jobs. And yet, so many of you morons are willing to attack anything that’s evena shade better for the environment. Really sad…
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 8:38amAny one remember the AMC Pacer? A lot of hype but never delivered. Volt is the big GM lie. They lied about the cost, being all electric, the MPG and I bet battery life. MPG is based on new batteries so what happens as these batteries weaken? Range drops rapidly. What happens when that $4000 controllers starts dying? How about dead battery cells? Electrical fire? Flooded? What happens if you get stuck in high water? Battery shorts out. Only a fool or the Gov’t would buy one of these pieces of junk. Give me a Natural Gas powered vehicle any day over an electric. NG is even more plentiful than oil. They burn it off as an unwanted byproduct of oil processing.
Report Post »sjssb
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 9:24amSome questions that need explaining: (1) How long does it take the Electric Battery in the Volt to re-charge after driving 40 (est)miles? (2) Is it simply a matter of just plugging an extension cord into a wall outlet at home or does it require expensive hardware/software to recharge it. (3) Is there going to be sufficient Solar, Wind, and other environmentally clean suppliers of the power to re-charge it? The public is being fed nothing but dreams of this wacky administration. Get the facts folks, any way you can!
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 10:41amWhat a tremendous shock, a government owned and operated company which was taken over illegally, lies. Just to make amends, they should rename GM to Socialist Motors (SM).
Report Post »Juan Gault
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 3:24pmThis GM product can be summarized in one word…….”RE-VOLTING”
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 4:29pmGM is being run just like the government, lies and deceit. One thing to remember, “the Edsel”, now extinct, just like GM will be!
Report Post »dominke
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 5:26pmObama has ordered that G.M. supply all federal agencies with this piece of junk. Again taxpayer dollars are bailing out the unions. Obama and all unions have to be shut down. The administration knowningly lied to the public about the mileage ratings. 40,000 dollars for junk,no way. Lets see how many union workers buy it.
Report Post »dwh320
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 5:40pmOH MY WHAT A SURPRISE…. a car made by the government, paying high over priced union labor, with claims of 230 MPG turns out to be lies…. who would have thunk it possible.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 9:41pmfriggin lieing gov motors. they are unions what do we expect, the truth? lol
Report Post »C.ChristieJ.Bolton2012
Posted on November 29, 2010 at 12:59amCome on guys, this technology is the future and I think we should encourage it just like we should be encouraging piezoelectricity, clean coal, wind farms and small scale solar power for home usage (I ‘m don’t like large scale solar farms anywhere except the deserts of the southwest and even there it’s iffy) and we should strengthen our power grids by added more nuclear power plants because the plug-in car is the way the world is going.
Report Post »Though I do hate unions … less unions = more innovation, more innovation = better technology, better technology = a cleaner planet. Anyone that says they are pro-union and an environmentalist should immediately be branded a hypocrite and their opinion should be discarded.
TECHNOLOGY – GOOD
UNIONS – BAD
blazingglory
Posted on November 29, 2010 at 9:19amHello Wikileaks, this is an insider at GM and I think you should know what your government is doing…….
Report Post »Geopatriot
Posted on November 29, 2010 at 1:07pm……Did you REALLY expect this Administration and Congress to do something right?
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