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‘God Abhors You’: UK Muslims Convicted for Distributing Pamphlets Advocating the Murder of Gays

A disturbing trial came to a close this week in London, England, after three men were convicted of distributing pamphlets that called for gays and lesbians to be murdered. The hateful fliers were disturbing at best. One of them, titled, “Death Penalty?,” showed a mannequin that was hanging from a noose and said that gays should be sent to hell.

The Mirror provides more details on the contents within the “Death Penalty” leaflet, as it read that anyone found in the act of homosexuality should receive capital punishment:

It states: “The death sentence is the only way this immoral crime can be erased from corrupting society and act as a deterrent for any other ill person who is remotely inclined in this bent way.”

The leaflet continues: “The only dispute amongst the classical authorities was the method employed in carrying out the penal code.”

It goes on to offer burning, being flung from a high point such as a mountain or building, or being stoned to death as suitable methods.

UK Muslim Men Convicted for Distributing Anti Gay Pamphlets

"Death Penalty" pamphlet that was distributed in England (Image Credit: Mirror)

Other leaflets apparently read “Turn or Burn” and “God Abhors You” (the acronym for this last one was GAY). These handouts were intended to protest a gay pride march that was taking place in the city of Derby back in 2010. Another pamphlet, which allegedly compared homosexuality to pedophilia, wasn’t given out, but is said to have been discovered.

The BBC has more regarding the case:

Ihjaz Ali, 42, Mehboob Hussain, 45, Umar Javed, 38, Razwan Javed, 27, and Kabir Ahmed, 28, have said the leaflets – which included quotations from religious sources – were designed to “raise awareness.” [...]

Mr Ali approached police a few weeks before the gay pride event to ask about a counter-protest by members of the Muslim community.

He was advised to be careful about the wording of signs and placards, the court heard.

He was eventually refused permission for the protest because he did not apply to the council with enough time.

The men were brought up on charges of hatred targeted at sexual orientation, though they maintain that they were merely attempting to raise awareness about an issue they were passionate about. In March 2010, new laws governing such offenses were put into effect and this was the first case being prosecuted under them.

Offenders found guilty could receive up to seven years in prison, but because there is no precedent yet through which to judge, it will be fascinating to see how these men are penalized. In the end, Huddain and Umar Javed were found not guilty, while the others were charged with the crime.

The men will be sentenced on February 10.

(H/T: Atlas Shrugs)

Comments (190)

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:50pm

    Warm and fuzzy muslims…gotta luv em !

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    • Rodster
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:24pm

      Gotta love the Libstream Media who sticks up for Islam when all they want to do is kill us and gays.

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    • reasonablerhetoric
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:46pm

      It’s funny because many Christians say the same things.

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    • marion
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:04pm

      Christians don’t advocate and distribute literature to advocate killing gays, that is for God go judge. It is about time something in the Muslim realm is charged appropriately.

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    • Jim S
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:18pm

      … I have no use for the murder advocated by these folks, keep in mind the greatest mass murderer in history was God, if you believe the bible…he slaughtered the entire population of the earth except for a few folks on the ark.. the ASPCA would have him hauled off for abuse to his pets…Hitler, Stalin, Mao…pikers compared to the God of Abraham…and brought to you by a guy who thinks he gets a planet when he dies….gotta love it…

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    • lukerw
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:20pm

      Luv em… to death!

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    • MYHEROISRON
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:27pm

      Islam is the enemy of all people the world over who are NOT muslims … believe it!

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:46pm

      marion
      Christians don’t advocate and distribute literature to advocate killing gays,

      Yeah, they do. It’s called the Bible.

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:04pm

      There goes that dang religion of peace (Islam) blowing their cover again.

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    • QuranIsCorruptAndMuhammadPossessedBySatan
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:53pm

      Atheist speaker and author says to atheists…DON’T COMPARE CHRISTIANITY WITH ISLAM;

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nzLtcB1iT4

      The most radical outrageous Christian today is nothing compared to modern conservative Muslims…which make up a large majority of Muslims. To continue to try to compare and make moral excuses is a peril to the civilized western world.

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    • Arfmoogle
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:56pm

      Islam, the religion of piece. A piece of this, a piece of that. All you liberals out there, I hope you take the blinders off, for at least five minutes.

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    • Joshua7
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:16pm

      Chet: Another militant anti-christian who thinks they know the Bible better than the people who actually read it.

      Or did you miss the part where Jesus said “He who has not sinned shall cast the first stone”?

      You wanna bible bash? I‘ll bible bash but that’ll gets us nowhere fast. The fact is there are no mainstream christians who advocate killing homosexuals just for existing and there certainly isn’t any Judeo-Christian based country that commits such a practice either. You can’t say the same thing about muslims.

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    • Arfmoogle
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:17pm

      reasonablerethoric-How many Christians say the same things? I know there are Christians who say homosexuals will go to hell, but what Christians have you seen or heard doing this sort of thing?

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    • OklahomaBound
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 12:16am

      Looks like the Muzzis found the hot button the Socialist in the UK would finally pushed back against. I guess they should have stuck to threatening to kiII Jews & Christians, threatening to kiII sexual deviants is unacceptable.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 2:34am

      @ Reasonablerhetoric
      “many Christians say the same things” “Many”? Really? What Christian churches say to kill homosexuals? Feel free to define “Christian” broadly — so you can count the Westboro Baptist Church (which says and does really mean and terrible things, but has not, as far as I know, ever said that homosexuals should be killed). Basically, I really doubt that your rhetoric is reasonable.

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    • Cesium
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 11:17am

      @Marion That‘s funny you say it’s for God to judge because that’s all christians do is judge gays… “love the sinner not the sin” That’s a blatant judgment right there!

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    • Jinglebob
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 12:57pm

      The Left just loves those Muslims.

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    • getalong
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 3:00pm

      Ah, once again, the violent beliefs of Islam are revealed.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:06pm

      They finally hit a nerve.

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    • lodgerat
      Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:09pm

      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:46pm
      It’s funny because many Christians say the same things.
      That’s BS and just wrong

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  • Present Relic
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:48pm

    @Adorno I looked through all the Post’s and I did not come across 1 single post even hinting at “killing GAYS” so…………..where did you pull that out of your….

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  • GodHatesFigs
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:37pm

    I bet if these were Muslims, nobody would say anything.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:48pm

      Sounds like they are being influenced by the Westboro loons.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:26pm

    Uh oh…the muslims have stepped in it now. The liberal governments of the UK and the US are now mad at the muslims because the muslims have insulted and threatened one of the libs’ protected groups…., the gays. If the muslims next attack minorities like blacks…then….whew…God help them. The governments will begin deportation.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:46pm

      Both of these groups are in the “Protected Group” status. These are two of the untouchable that make up the NEODEMOCRAT PARTY. The other groups will stay silent till this squabble is ironed out, all will be forgotten and forgiven. All it takes to be a member in the NEODEMOCRAT PARTY is Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, anything goes, no rules, no ethics.

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    • ronvent
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:38pm

      I think it’s stupid to believe that gays will suffer in some future life for being what “god made them” on earth. (I leave god out of everything, actually.) It is FAR, FAR worse, however, to suggest steps to “send them” to that final punishment…i.e. to kill them so that they might face that supposed eternity. The beliefs are stupid but not criminal in and of themselves; inciting a murder or other action to ‘hasten’ that judgement IS criminal behavior. No confusion here.
      The religious community, every permutation, is ALWAYS illogical. We’d be way better off without religion.

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  • cessna152
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:25pm

    Get used to it all of you PC Liberal progressives. Sharia, coming to a country near you…Tolerance? Look what you have created, something [wildly] out of your control.

    Keep bashing Christians, removing Jesus from every part of life and Sharia is what you’ll be left with. Oh how you’ll wish that Christians and their love was your main concern.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:34pm

      I’m pretty sure that anyone intelligent enough to contribute to the abolition of christianity in the US would be equally opposed to Sharia law, so I don’t completely follow you.

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    • SayNoToTeaBaggers
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:41pm

      when? you nuts have said that for years

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:48pm

      Exactly Andy.

      It is actually people who cry for freedom for religion that is bringing Sharia here.

      The Supreme court decided 9-0 that the catholic church is exempt from discrimination laws in hiring practices because they are a church.

      If Catholic churches are free from laws, why shouldn’t Muslims?

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    • DesertDave54
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:33pm

      @CESSNA152- Amen to that! BUT- our lot in life as Christians, as biblical history shows, IS to be persecuted. I will gladly die for my God and my Country. Sharia will come, Christians will be persecuted. Regardless of party, FEW “Conservative” lawmakers will have the ba11s to stand up to this quasi-religion; same with the Liberal/Progressives- they KNOW if they stand up against these sand-n1gg3rs they would certainly perish. For me, I will fight them to my own death.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:38pm

      Moderationis best

      All churchs were covered.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:14pm

      Andy,
      Does the media speak positives about Christianity? How about the colleges? Does High School even allow it? How about our leaders? This is just the beginning and Christianity is under attack…why? Because there is truth. Look through recent court rulings and you’ll find your answer.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:31pm

      I mean, why on earth would we let religion inform the policies of our colleges, high schools, and leaders? Christianity is under counter-attack for waging a war on women, sexuality, progress, and the human intellect for about as long as Islam has. Just look at the rhetoric in desertdave‘s post above me and tell me we don’t have a moral obligation to keep people like that away from our government and schools.

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  • Adorno
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:23pm

    As I expected when I saw the headline, this post has created something of a dilemma for Beck fans: Muslims are finally doing something Blaze readers agree with, but it’s too much to actually come out and say you approve of an Islamic practice. But most of you don’t seem to have any problem condemning Muslims while approving of the execution of homosexuals. So it’s all good.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:51pm

      No ,not all beckers, as you call us, approve of this no matter who its done by.Don’t mistake conservative with radical christianty.They aren’t the same by a long shot.Radical can be muslims christians and jews.Its the ferocity of the view and far you are willing to go to achieve it.By the way this is one of the reasons the clans had and have laws that deal with this type of crap.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:58pm

      ADORNO, You are obviously making that statement up from whole cloth. Just showing your wishful thinking as applied to Christians, and other conservatives. That could not be the furtherest thing from the truth. Those of us who grew up as truly conservative Christians were actually taught to love the sinner. There is no hatred involved. It is the left who calls disagreement hate. Don’t confuse the greater mass of us with the likes of the Westboro loons or other organized hate groups. I don’t even add Baptist to their name because the Baptist church has nothing to do with them. They simply adopted the name themselves, apparently to try and give themselves some sort of credence. Take your hate and try to peddle it somewhere else, like on the left wing loon blogs where you belong.

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    • vaman
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:20pm

      @Adorno – Really good point and well said. It doesn’t apply to everyone, but there are a lot of die hard Beck supporters and Blazers that fit your explanation perfectly.

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    • DesertDave54
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:25pm

      @Adorno- YOU FILTHY FASCIST! Look up the word Libertarian. Do you need help? I cannot speak for all of us who post here, but many at least SEEM to be LIBERTARIANS. And again, I won’t speak for anyone but me when I say I may be Conservative in many ways, I am a Social Libertarian. Glenn Beck actually said gays should die or something? REALLY? Get off your fascist websites, find the audio and/or video and post it!

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:30pm

      I simply take joy in the fact that all the time the LGBTQ Sandwich whines about Christians, their real enemy is given pretty much a free pass to do what they will. They are so blinded by their hatred and distrust of us that they don’t see the enemy at the gates. Maybe they will figure it out when all of Europe falls to Islam, but I won’t hold my breath.

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    • SoupSandwich
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:23pm

      Easy with that Sandwich rhetoric Mr. GayBobPants. Where is the glitter bomb to make everyone all handsy and smiley? Where is the LGBLT section of the CBC at on this and why is code pink not there with the midget ELF people too? Dammit but all these frickin special interests people need to put out flash cards because it is getting hard to remember who is doing who and where, for what write off. Where is Al Gore? Has to be Davos with all the snow…

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 11:47pm

      Christians, if they follow scripture and Christ’s teachings, do not want to kill gays. We don’t want to kill Muslims. It is not valid to compare our faith with Islam, which teaches that the penalty for non-conversion is death here and now. Christ came not to condemn, but to offer life, here, now and eternally. They are opposite faiths. One comes from the Forgiver, who reconciles fallen man to God- the other comes through the Accuser, who shouts that there is no forgiveness, and there is no certainty in heaven unless you die while killing. Jesus= life

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 11:58pm

      Let me specify- radical Islam is what I am describing. I know there are a lot of moderates who interpret their faith differently than the “submit or die” crowd. But Jesus did not teach us to follow these violent, evil practices, but to love others, and to be concerned for their need for Christ.

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  • Locked
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:20pm

    It’ll be interesting to see how the UK judge rules on it. I’m not as up-to-date on UK law as I am US law, so I’m not sure if it can get thrown out and law overturned.

    Still, it’s an interesting look to see the difference between the US and the UK. When Westboro Baptists Church does similar things, they’re squeaky clean as far as the law is concerned.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:02pm

      Westboro is an organization of several families of lawyers. They keep themselves squeaky clean in appearance by stomping on the First Amendment and virtually use an army of themselves to roll over local courts. Frankly, they are nothing more than a hate organization in my opinion much like the KKK.

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  • ENTP
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:17pm

    As an ENTP, It is my “opinion”, that all of this division “created” is working out nicely for the government, don’t ya think? If there is enough outcry, then won’t people BEG the government to step in and BAN RADICAL religion, or how about RELIGION in General? After all, we should put science in its rightful place… ; )

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    • Sirfoldallot
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:29pm

      @ ENTP, WTH r u trying 2 say ?

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:42pm

      It is personality type from the Meyers-Briggs Personality Inventory. I am an INTP. Doesn’t mean doodle. Just a idiotic tool we Human Resource professionals impose on employees as they go through leadership training.

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    • SoupSandwich
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 8:45am

      Ah, see, I could have let pass all the hypocritical poop about Christians and the right wing this and that and gay bob this and hairy muslim that…but HUMAN RESOURCE employees need to be hunted down like lawyers and politicians until they are all pushed into central park, then tagged and have cones of insanity placed around their necks like poor dogs with hot spots on their rumps. Say open season from Jan 1 until Nov 1, 6 per season, either sex on weekends just because. Human Resources. Sure. Great gig there as long as we keep breeding and listening to people living in small cubicles.

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  • American Honor
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:14pm

    Mohammed was a pedofile, so isn’t it wierd that Islam should be the religion that takes this stance . . . . .

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:48pm

      This Cult is not a Religion, it is a Political Theocracy

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:06pm

      @ AMERICAN HONOR- “Mohammed was a pedofile (spelling incorrect; if you’re going to use the word know how to spell it, imbecile!)”
      ***************
      Abraham had sex with his sister Sarah, she got pregnant with Isaac, which makes Isaac, Abraham’s son and brother.

      Lot had sex with both his daughters and they got pregnant and their offspring are Jesus’ great, great-grandfathers.

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    • littleQueenie
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:17pm

      @surhan
      been reading Loon Watch again?

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:02pm

      @ LITTLEQUEENIE- “been reading Loon Watch again?”
      *************
      Is that what they’re calling the Bible nowadays “Loon Watch”?

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 12:01am

      sirhansirhan- You blaspheme the God of Isaac and Jacob yet expect us to have dialog with you, this is impossible. Would you be willing to pray with an open heart and ask God to guide you to His truth, even if that truth is found in the Jesus of the Bible, and not in Islam? I have studied the quran and found the teachings and commands in the Qur’an and the Hadith are diametrically opposed to the teachings and commands of the Biblical Jesus. In Matthew 5:44-45 Jesus says, “But I say to you, love your enemies, barak those who curse you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those insulting you or persicuting you, So that you become sons of your Father in shamayim”. Does the Jesus of the Qur’an also teach this? Does even Mohammed — the ‘prophet’ of Islam — teach anywhere in the Qur’an or Hadith to love and pray for one’s enemies?

      If the Bible is not the word of God as you say, why cant we see the Tashkent quran to compare it to the copy you read in Arabic?

      You blaspheme our book yet wont produce yours! Ill make you a deal sirhan, when the WORLD IS ALLOWED TO VIEW THE TASHKENT QURAN I for one would love to compare its teachings and commands to the teachings and commands of the Biblical Jesus again. Then we might be able to have a dialog. :]

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 12:12am

      hey sirhansatan-there is no historical or archaeological record of Mecca ever having existed, prior to the 4th century AD when immigrants from Yemen settled in the area. While there is plenty of such evidence that confirms that Arabian cities like Qedar, Dedan and Teima were established long before, there is no such evidence that Mecca ever existed before the Christian era.
      Try a search like – archaeology of mecca – or – historical and archaeological evidence of mecca – or – ancient towns in Arabia. If you can find some evidence that predates the first few centuries AD, that demonstrates that Mecca existed prior to the Christian era, we would appreciate you sharing it with us in the forum. In the absence of such archaeological and historical record, what can be concluded about Mohammed’s stand-alone 7th century religion?
      -If muhammud is the last and final prophet to the world, and the quran was his only miracle, why is the only way to understand it in arabic? sounds like only Arabs can truly “understand” the quran, not the entire world according to your political theology .
      -Didnt Joseph Smith claim the muslims are fallen also? If your right they must be too! and when another “prophet” comes along you can follow that religion too!
      what fun :]

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 1:39am

      @ HEARTITORLEAVEIT- You have been mislead about Islam. First, I am willing to believe what you said about Jesus but you have to prove what you’re saying. If Jesus died where’s the proof. If he is God where’s the proof.

      You say you have studied the Qur’an and Sunnah; that’s not true. If you studied the Qur‘an or Sunnah we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Give me one quote from the Qur‘an from the word of Jesus that you disagree with as proof that you read the Qur’an.

      There is no such thing as a “Tashkent Qur’an” there is only the Qur’an (Arabic only). Translations are okay, but only use one that has the Arabic text along side the translation. It wont be that hard to find one.

      You say there is no evidence that Mecca existed before the Christian era. What do you mean by that. Are you saying Mecca did not exist before the 4th century? Mecca is mentioned in the Bible:

      Psalm 84:6: Who passing through the valley of Baca (Mecca) make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools.

      Isaiah 21:13: The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim.

      Ezekiel 27:21: Arabia, and all the princes of Kedar, they occupied with thee in lambs, and rams, and goats: in these were they thy merchants.

      Deuteronomy 33:2…he shined forth from mount Paran (in Arabia), and he came with ten thousands of saints…

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 1:54am

      sirhansatan-
      if “Allah” commissioned the Kaaba to be constructed at the center of the world an below the gate to heaven, 6,000 years ago, why did YHWH (“I AM”) give Moses instruction to build a tabernacle on Mount Moriah (God’s footstool), that was completed almost 3,000 years ago?, that stood a thousand miles from where Mecca was eventually built in the 4th century A.D.? hmmmm?

      According to the Quran, the Ka’aba was re-built by Abraham and Ishmael, and has presumably been the center of worship for Allah’s people, since Adam. However in the 7th century AD the Ka‘aba was a center of pagan worship of some 360 rock idols that resided in and around the Ka’aba. Mohammed took issue with the polytheists and eventually recruited forces from neighboring Medina to attack Mecca and force removal of all of the rock idols ….. except the black stone that still resides at the Ka’aba today.

      there is absolutely no record – outside of 7th and 8th century created Islamic tradition – of Abraham, Hagar or Ishmael ever having been in Mecca. According the Scriptural record, confirmed by archaeology, Abraham’s travels were mainly in the opposite direction and he never got within a thousand kilometers of Mecca. Indeed the first caravan route along the Red Sea in Saudi Arabia wasn’t established until almost a thousand years after Abraham.

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 2:04am

      sirhansatan- The Bible states that Abraham sent Hagar, and Hagar’s son Ishmael away, and that Ishmael did nearly die of thirst, the probem here is when I consider the geographical location of Abraham’s home, and where Hagar and Ishmael wandered, once they were sent out.

      -Genesis 21:14 “And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave [it] unto Hagar, putting [it] on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba. 15 And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs. ”

      To suggest that Hagar and Ishmael wandered their way from Beersheba to what eventually became Mecca, would require them to have crossed 1000 kilometers of – at that time – unpopulated, uncharted, unknown, barren, desolate desert, on a single skin of water. The nearest location that anybody has placed Mt. Sinai to Mecca is not within a thousand kilometers across barren desert!

      there is not a single shred of archaeological or historical evidence, that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD when immigrants of the Yemeni tribe of Khuzaa’h settled it, or that the Kaaba existed before it was built by Asa’d Abu Karb in the early 5th century A.D.

      sorrysirhan no covenant for you!

      :]

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 2:32am

      sirhansatan- YOU HAVE CHOSEN!
      -Between the 1600 year record of God to mankind as revealed through all of His prophets and witnesses, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years, or the EXACT OPPOSITE through the stand-alone 23 year record of A SINGLE 7th century southwest Arabian desert dwelling illiterate, and his recycled Sabian and Quraish Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals. Rituals that take place in the city of Mecca, which no historical or archaeological record suggests, ever existed before immigrants from Yemen settled the area in about the 4th century AD!

      -There can be no question that one of these directly opposing records comes straight out of the pit of hell.
      THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

      If Muhammad was a true prophet of the God of the bible, then all the other prophets were false!

      So what inspires you, sirhan?
      -To desire to believe the scriptures were corrupted? To run and hide from the Gospel?
      -It is “that spirit of antichrist” working in you heart and mind sirhan?

      sirhan, Are you willing to pray with an open heart and ask God to guide you to His truth, even if that truth is found in the Jesus of the Bible, and not in Islam?

      :]

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    • littleQueenie
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 3:08pm

      @Surhan
      I think Loon Watch is your Bible.
      I think you read it everyday and do whatever it says.
      (BTW- Loon Watch is a site that tells Muslims how to talk to non-Muslims – what to say, what arguments to use, etc. This is why Muslims sound like parrots, just mouthing off what they’re told). Nothing original ever comes out of Suhan’s mind, that would be Haram!

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 10:40pm

      sirhan–Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
      It is crystal clear to all of us that you represent and belive in the exact opposite of Christianity. This single verse from the Quran rejects all of the prophets and witnesses of the New Testament ! INCLUDING Jesus Christ who prophesied His own death – and the whole subject of the new covenant. No crucifixion, death and resurrection. No shed blood. In spite of the massive, even secular, historical record of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Throughout the last two thousand years not a single Christian has ever had a doubt about Jesus’ crucifixion. But you deny it sirhansatan. Why would you try to prove anything to a Christian if you by denying Christ’s devinity?There is not a single mainstream Jewish sect that harbors any doubt about Jesus being killed.Your religion is unique among other religions, in that at it‘s very core it teaches it’s adherents what to DISbelieve.

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 10:41pm

      -Who did die on the cross sirhan?
      Islam emerges as the only anti-another-religion, religion, by design, and the only religion that teaches specifically against another faith. Islam is to Christianity as the negative is to a photograph. Islam is the antithesis of the Gospel..

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  • TEIN
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:14pm

    Muslims are modern day Pharisees and the Sadducees..still implementing letter of the law, hung up on dogma, an eye for an eye, condemn the sinner not just the sin, making themselves judges, forgotten who their ancestors worshiped, forsaking their linage and heritage…..just like stubborn mules…

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:56pm

      Yeah they are.Not to worry though if sharia wins and is accepted by the courts their equally stubborn and fierce counterparts will ask for their laws to be accepted also.Our laws dictate that wife beaters rapists and pedophiles are put to death.In the case of wife beaters its by their wife lover girlfriend.If she should abscond his parents must do so or they are killed.Same with pedophiles and rapists.They are considered a threat to humanity.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:09pm

    .

    Why does everybody get so upset?

    “The death sentence is the only way this immoral crime can be erased from corrupting society and act as a deterrent for any other ill person who is remotely inclined in this bent way.”

    They just kill H omo’s, like Democrat’s kill babies…….

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    • Sirfoldallot
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:17pm

      It’s weird how ppl will follow those that will kill them. No designers in the islam world gay ppl.

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    • Todd P
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:43pm

      I wonder who does their hair over in Islamland?

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:04pm

    Gee,if Muslims feel that bad about it,why not just encourage gays to live a long miserable life with a sore butt? Is there any Islamic rules that is not punished by killing? Seems the more we try to keep up with the Joneses (The UK) the worse we become.

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  • loveoursoldiers
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:02pm

    hahaha
    They will have fun in prison. They better be careful and not drop the soap!
    ahhhhhh
    the religion of peace ( and love)
    so beautiful as Muhammad Neeson says

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    • Sirfoldallot
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:08pm

      Gay’s = Suicidal. Lets revew, AIDS didn’t scare them , they support Muslim ; I rest my case.

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  • netmail
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:59pm

    Is this the part of Islam that Liam Neeson is attracted to? Boy, is HE ever hanging out with the wrong crowd.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:53pm

    What, they were just practicing what their religion required. Where’s the problem? So much for religious freedom.

    Finally, gays will see we only say they will go to hell if they don’t repent; who would they rather come face to face? Christians or Muslims?

    See, Christians aren’t so bad after all.

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    • TheJeffersonian
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:57pm

      Just being LESS bad doesn’t make you good.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:01pm

      Proverbs 6:16-19
      King James Version (KJV)

      16These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

      17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

      18An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

      19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

      Which of these does homosexuality fall under?

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:51pm

      @Cofe

      That is only because Christianity has been dragged kicking and screaming through the generations by a secular society.

      Christianity was just as bad as Islam at one point. Unfortunately Islam has 21st century weapons.

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    • WISEPENNY
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:17pm

      @ V-MAN MACE you asked: Which of these does homosexuality fall under?
      As long as you asked, the Bible does expound on that subject quite clearly in another book called The Book of Romans. Any more questions?

      Ro 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
      27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
      28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
      29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
      30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
      31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
      32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

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    • sdarbro
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:18pm

      V-Man

      You have listed lying on your list twice. I think redundancy was one of the original sins.

      But to answer your question, Is it running to mischief?!? Or wicked imaginations?

      I give up, tell me.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:01pm

      WISEPENNY

      It was an honest question, I’m always seeking knowledge. I feed off it.

      I understand that the book of Romans addresses the issue, and I’m intimately familiar with the text, but does it say that God hates homosexuals? No. God doesn’t hate sinners. He hates their actions, however.

      Is a homosexual any more of a sinner than anyone else? No. We’re ALL sinners.

      sdarbro

      It isn’t my list. It’s directly from Proverbs. I suppose it could be considered wicked imaginations and/or running to mischief, yes. That correlates very well in the context of “…God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient…”

      So I would venture to say that you both are correct. You have expanded my knowledge.

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    • QuranIsCorruptAndMuhammadPossessedBySatan
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:55pm

      Famous atheist author and speaker Sam Harris says to atheists DO NOT FALL INTO THE TRAP OF COMPARING CHRISTIANITY WITH ISLAM;

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nzLtcB1iT4

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on January 28, 2012 at 10:27am

      There are many people who put the name Christian on their own hate filled agendas. It makes them feel superior rather than humble (all men have sinned before God). Are all roses flowers? Are all flowers roses?

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  • spirited
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:53pm

    How interestingit is that allthough they may not create images of their god or it’s creations

    >they know their god’s thoughts.

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  • maroon67
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:51pm

    Well, it’s coming down to our salvation!

    Everything in the world is not going to matter soon. Prepare and rejoice!

    http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/

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  • spirited
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:51pm

    Death always seems to be the answer.
    Don’t they realize that everyday of living is just another day closer to dying? (ha)

    >Control freaks!

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:48pm

    makes ya wonder what is being said in the muslim households in America about all the gay men that obama appointed and happily surrounds himself with.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:59pm

      They are secretly salivating at it.They probaly wish they were in obamas shoes.All those men so little time.Sorry I’ve just always figured they were the most incredibly insecure men on the planet.Most seem to be miserdly women hating closet cases.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:46pm

    Religion of peace. Maybe these guys are just part of the Westburo (Baptist) Islamic Mosque or maybe they are just true Islamist.

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:46pm

    Ahhh…the religion of peace…

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:45pm

    and these obamademocrat communists have rushed to include muslims in their anti-American agenda. how funny.

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:45pm

    There has obviously been a huge mistake. Islam is the religion of peace and inclusion. If you don’t believe me then you deserve to be stoned too…..I mean, you are wrong.

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    • Cousin_of_Marx
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:43pm

      Both Christianity and Islam and made up religions.
      Enjoy your moronic delusional fantasies, chumps.

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:45pm

    What Punishment for Broken laws within Islam don’t invoke some sort of BloodLetting.

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:43pm

    Islamo-fascism is a disease that needs to be eradicated!

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 12:51pm

      Agree .. but I am afraid it is too late for the UK … it is going to get really “nasty”.

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 1:17pm

      so you gonna kill em?

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    • Sirfoldallot
      Posted on January 27, 2012 at 2:11pm

      @ Steelhead , school must of let out 4 u.

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