GOP Candidates Rail Against Perry Over Mandatory HPV Vaccination
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During CNN’s Tea Party Debate Monday night, all eyes, and ire, turned to frontrunner Rick Perry over questions surrounding Perry’s executive order mandating HPV vaccines for girls. Several other candidates, notably Congresswoman Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum, found the mandate “offensive.”
Mediaite reports:
Perry didn’t seem to 100% support his decision to mandate the HPV vaccine against cancer, noting that the “way I went about it” would change if he had a second chance. That didnt’ stop Rep. Bachmann from attacking strongly. “I’m a mom,” she responded, “and to have innocent little 12-year-old girls be forced to have a government injection through an executive order is just flat-out wrong.”
Perry replied that his decision was “about trying to stop a cancer,” arguing, “at the end of the day, you may criticize me about the way that I went about it… [but] I am always going to err on the side of life.”
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Comments (259)
conservative belle
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:48pmWe can disagree on various points of each of the canidates but they all did terrific! These Republican debates are far more interesting than the 2008 debates.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:01pmThe “You need to elect me now” “debates”? Sounds familiar with his current “plans”.
I find myself using more and more quotes every time I discuss Obama.
Report Post »Any_One_But_Obama
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:04pmVERY TRUE, THEY WERE ALL TERRIFIC BUT WHEN IT CAME TO EFFECTIVE LINES…
That goes to Texas Rep. Ron Paul. He said that as a resident of Texas his taxes have doubled, the spending has doubled, their debt has tripled, and they are hurting: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/sep/paul_perry_taxes.html
Report Post »pattymelt
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:09pmCNN is running rampant with this…
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:13pmNot just the ‘official’ candidates, either:
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/09/12/palin-questions-perrys-crony-capitalist-reflexes/
LOL
the hawk
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 12:48amPerrys a big boy If he cant get through this he cant run the country!
Report Post »Michele was feisty tonight good for her ! she’s fighting for something !
Any_One_But_Obama
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 1:47amTHIS HAD TO BE THE BEST DEBATE THAT WE HAVE HAD, IT COVERED ALL THE ISSUES THE TEA PARTY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT…
Those issues were hot topics and hard issues that at least one candidate had a problem with. Here is the break down of the debate to the questions asked: http://tiny.cc/lcduf
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 3:33amVaccines issues are full of lobbyists and of course big big money. Plus, the more you look into the science of many of these vaccines, the less sure the issue becomes–kind of like global warming science. For me this is a big big red light for me as far as Perry goes. He just kind of morphed into the Al Gore of vaccines….
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:27amI thought Perry handled the issue very well. He said if he had it to do over, it would not have been an issue worrthy of an executive order.
If your kids is going to go to public school, they have to have the polio shot, the mumps, measels….. No one kicking and screaming about these shots being mandatory
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:35amRomney said, “Because if we don’t have a FED, who’s going to run our currency? Congress? I’m not in favor of that.” Err, the Constitution grants Congress the Power to Coin our Money. You’re not in favor of the Constitution? You rather have global elitists and international bankers run our currency? Good one. Thanks for reminding me why not to vote for you. Stupid NeoCon. Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild said, “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes it’s laws”. Romney’s a tool. Who’s going to run our currency? What we should do is get rid of the FED, restore sound money and let the free market run our economy.
Report Post »SaveOurConstitution
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:43amAny_One_But_Obama -
That is an out and out LIE!!! There are NO TAXES in Texas! Do you live there, I did….
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:44amNewt was incredible last night!
Newt brought it back to Obama each and every time instead of fighting with the other candidates.. I want desperately to see this man in a debate with Obama
the rest of the candidates could learn a lot from Newt!
Report Post »SaveOurConstitution
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:46amBy the way, besides there being no state individual tax there is also no no state corporate income tax.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:55amPERRY, THE DARLING OF THE LEFT WING DEMOCRATS
Perry will be worst than Obama: Perry supports amnesty, mandatory health care, mandatory child injections, gun control, increased spending, etc. What kind of conservative is Perry? Is he a John McCain Conservative?
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:57amBachmann is 100 percent right.
The only thing I want to know is who Bachmann’s first US Supreme Court nominee will be. Who will Bachmann replace the evil Ginsberg with?
Report Post »ScreaminEagle
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:03amReally Liked Bachman and Cain. CNN surprised me much better than MSNBC, or Fox. My only problem with Cain is he was in the belly of the Beast. “The Ferderal Reserve”. This is an even greater evil than Scocial Security. SS is full of IOU’s for fiat money, backed by paper gold, now if that ain’t a sham, what is? Slap Slap Slap WAKE UP AMERICA! We’re not just useful idiots, we’re useful marks for con people in DC.
Report Post »mrfunn
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:15am.
@conservative belle ‘These Republican debates’
Anyone know why this was called a ‘Tea Party debate’ ?
Perhaps CNN and Wolfie think very highly of the Tea Party.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:35amI actually thought Perry handled it quite well. Last debate he stumbled about big time, but I think his response to Bachmann was correct: he wouldn’t support doing it via an executive order, but he would still get it done.
HPV is dangerous and incredibly common. 75% of college kids will have it at some point; most will never know because it is usually asymptomatic (especially in men). The vast majority of cases will clear up on their own within a couple of years; however, a minority will develop into cervical cancer in women. Condoms don’t protect against it. Odds are, if you’ve had sex with someone who is sexually active from ages 18-22, you’ve had (or have) HPV.
I support Perry’s stance on this one. Bachmann came off as the loon that she is. We give kids tetanus shots even if they don’t plan on stepping on nails; might as well give them Gardasil even if they don’t plan on bumping uglies.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:42am@Funn
“Anyone know why this was called a ‘Tea Party debate’ ?
Perhaps CNN and Wolfie think very highly of the Tea Party.”
Because it was co-hosted by the FL Tea Party Express in Tampa.
Report Post »mrfunn
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:45am.
Report Post »Republican Rick Perry
Republican Mitt Romney
Republican Ron Paul
Republican Michele Bachmann
Republican Rick Santorum
Republican Newt Gingrich
Republican Herman Cain
Rino Republican Jon Huntsman
mrfunn
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:07am@Locked thanks,
I guess my point is the debate is being referred to as the ‘Tea Party debate’ all over the web and TV.
Report Post »If you aren’t otherwise aware, it makes one think the people on stage are Tea Party members.
Firebrand
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 1:53pm@locked
I would have to say I agree. Ask the mother of “an innocent little 12 year old girl” who has died from HPV related cervical cancer whether or not she would have preferred a prophylactic HPV vaccine shot or a dead daughter. What do you think her response would be? Especially since this is one of the most painful cancers in existence if it metastasizes into the pelvis/hip. Victims can’t sit, stand, or walk without being in excruciating pain. Think of your daughters in that dilemma and tell me you wouldn’t want the shot.
People are ignorant of how vaccines work and how far we’ve come since the polio contamination problem. Add that to the completely false reports of vaccines causing autism. Truthfully, vaccines are an effective way to protect yourself from virus infection and for women to pass antibodies for the bug to their offspring.
One of the major issues people have is that the vaccine is to guard against an STD, as if it‘s sending a message to our children that it’s OK to have sex. That’s completely wrong. One out of every four people have it and it can be contracted without having sex or even if you are wearing a condom. It is a causal agent of cervical cancer.
So the other argument is that it was mandatory. Except, it wasn’t. There was an opt-out. The reason why there wasn’t an opt-in is because most people probably wouldn’t take the time/effort to do it. The prevalence of shot recipients would be higher with an opt-out.
Report Post »hi
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:42pmPerry is awesome.
Report Post »nannyatnannydotgov
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:22pmPerry is Bilderberg’s choice. Do we want Bilderberg’s choice to be our president?
Report Post »Gamaliel
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 12:51amPerry’s performance in his first debate was extremely poor. He hung his head, was halting in speech. He was not articulate nor did he present himself as an intelligent debater. He gets a D- from Numbers USA which monitors candidates on the issue of illegal immigration.
I sure question his conservative credentials. In 2007 he tried to mandate the HPV for 12 year old girls by executive order.
I’m smelling a rat here. Like Romney, I keep hearing that I am supposed to be so impressed with Perry. The media sure seems to be pushing him. I notice even Drudge keeps posting favorable photos and headlines that DO NOT match what I am seeing for myself.
This election had better not be business as usual, voting in someone because the media tells us they can win.
Report Post »Master_and_Commander
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 3:19amOh stop with the Bilderberg group crap, you bunch of hacks. Y’all believe Bush blew up the twin towers also? Or that he caused hurricane Katrina? Freaks.
I don’t support Perry on this one issue, its a very bad mark on his record for sure. But again, keep it in context with the rest of his record. You can’t peg him as some evil devious progressive politician for this one issue, look at his full record in context before making a judgement. Again I don’t give Perry a complete pass on this, and I don’t give him my full support yet, but I think it’s time to move on and stop with the conspiracy theories and do real honest debating, rather than just playing these political games
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:00amSarah Palin, the American Joan of Arc, Save us Sarah, save us…
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:41pmCRICHTON: Yes, I was disgusted. How many times did he have to say it was a mistake yet they wouldn’t let it go. Should he have got down on his knees and begged forgiveness? Ridiculous. Made them look desperate and small. As far as freedom……….while I don’t agree with the vaccine, no one was holding these kids down to get the shot. The parents could have said no if they used their heads and a bit of common sense.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:42pmYou are correct about the vaccine. Parents can opt out of ANY vaccine in TX. Bachmann and Santorum did go too far and sounded shrill and showed a total lack of understanding regarding disease vaccines.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:46pmBachmann and Santorum were all ready set to run with this criticism and they both looked really foolish.
Report Post »Kellyirishtoafault
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 12:18amI normally like Michele Bachmann but I don’t like the way she keeps going after the vaccinne and also how they are all jumping on the bandwagon attacking Perry on the social security ponzi scheme.
Report Post »Which I believe it is and I also believe the rest of the canidates do too. It makes them all look as bad as the democraps when they use ss to scare old people.
Gamaliel
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 1:03amMandating the HPV through executive order for 12 year old girls is EXTREMELY heavy handed and REVEALING. Anyone who would do such a thing is insensitive on many levels. I would question anyone who would do such a thing as to their conservative and Christian sincerity.
Report Post »bestartist
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 2:05amI think Bachmann and Santorum are now pretty irrelevant and so are grabbing at anything they can to attack Perry.
Report Post »I hate to inform Bachmann that not all 12 yr old girls nowadays are all that innocent and the vaccine had to be administered BEFORE any exposure to be effective, not afterwards. Also 12 yr old girls unfortunately can be molested or raped. Also there was the ability for a parent to opt out making the program voluntary.
I had a friend who died of cervical cancer, even with all the problems associated with the program or the drug, if she could have possibly avoided dying an unnecessary death……it would have been worth it 1000 times.
Rick and Michelle were acting small and petty and like losers, and so are the Dems and anyone else using this to their own advantage.
Go Rick!
Chuck Stein
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 2:28am@ Bestartist
Report Post »Very sorry for the loss of your friend. I am concerned, though, that your loss is affecting your logic: “even with all the problems associated with the program or the drug, if she could have possibly avoided dying an unnecessary death……it would have been worth it 1000 times.” What are the practical limitations to such a calculus of the propriety of goverment directives? Prohibition would certainly still be in effect, no doubt. Speed limits at 45 mph on interstates, most likely. The HPV vaccine only covers a fraction of the types of virus that can cause cervical cancer. A vaccine gives a false sense of security. Rick Perry gives me no sense of security (but, yes, I would vote for him instead of Obumbler).
Master_and_Commander
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 3:24amGamaliel,
Report Post »yes it is a very serious issue, and it is a cause for concern, but how about looking at his record fully and his actions in the past before making a judgement on his Christian Character.
Link8on
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:50amDoes Perry not have any daughters of his own ?
Did they take the HPV vaccine shots too ?
Perry’s strongest debate answers typically idenitfy how TX is overcoming the downward Obama trends sweeping the rest of our once great nation. This should be no different, where the TX perception is not stellar, and he can go back to a states rights Not top down from the Federal government oriented rebuttal. Any worthy candidate for this party has to, at every turn, show how they differ from BHO.
Report Post »Gamaliel
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:31amMaster-And_Commander
I have seen that Perry gets a D- from Numbers USA on the issue of illegal immigration. The media sure presents him in a positive light. He performed terribly in the first debate: head hanging, stuttering, not intelligent appearing at all. The photos and headlines are not matching what I’m seeing in the debates.
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:41pm“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that’s it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
Report Post »- Alexis de Tocqueville
“Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
– C.S. Lewis
“the price good men pay for ignoring public affairs is that they are ruled by evil men.”
- Plato
WeeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:37pm“Perry replied … ‘at the end of the day, you may criticize me about the way that I went about it… [but] I am always going to err on the side of life.’ ”
No, you err on the side of the Constitution Of The United States Of America!
Report Post »You’re outta here, poser!!
Grey Eagle
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:47pmExecutive orders are allowed according to TX state law. Perry has rarely used them.
Report Post »foobear
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 5:40amIdiot, re-read the 10th Amendment.
Report Post »WeeDontNeedNoSteenkinFaggots
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 6:03pmNever read a book by starting at Chapter 10 — it gives you the wrong idea of what the story is about.
Report Post »;-)
mml35
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:31pmHighly disapointed in bachman…..disgusting obvious political move you made your point in disagreeing with how he handled it but to pull this croney capitalism garbage is just sick and you have lost all my support…..shame on you
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:40pmI’ll bet she had all her kids vaccinated because to get into a public school system they had to be. So was I in 1945. So what’s new?
Report Post »Kellyirishtoafault
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 12:21amI do was disappointed in Michele as I stated in another reply
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:00amSo far we don’t have the perfect canidate that any of us can agree on. The bottom line is we all must support the 1 canidate that will be running against Obama. We need to also take the Senate.
Report Post »Crakaveli
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:29pmIt was great to see Slick Rick Perry getting exposed. It is about time!
Report Post »Koz469
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:13pmPerry should go back to the Democratic Party, he likes government mandates, raising taxes, making government bigger, and bigger debt. He is a Rino or a Democrat, either way I will not vote for him. The only real conservative statesman in the group is Ron Paul in my opinion. He’s the only one with a solid track record of voting with the Constitution.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:44pmObviously you are one of either Bachmann’s, or Paul’s supporters using the same talking points and trashing Governor Perry all over the conservative web sites. It still will not get your candidate elected.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 2:04amMaybe Perry can run on the democratic ticket? I’ve heard Biden is looking forward to retirement in Florida.. maybe Perry as the new VP? What’s not to like about executive orders and government expansion.. both Perry and Obama love this. Now Perry and Obama can attend that next bilderberg meeting together.
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:29pmAny candidate willing to build a fence around us can’t be POTUS period.
Report Post »Any candidate deeming social security unemployment, medicare tax not unconstitutional and agrees Obamacare is has no idea of what constitutionality means.
Ookspay
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:42pmYou got a little squirrelly there at the end Steve-O, but I think I get your point. Bad Point, get some sleep.
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:25pmhttp://www.bilderberg.org/
WAKE UP AMERICA
Report Post »mikenleeds
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:24pmGREAT job Michele … just be being honest and point out the snakes in politics .
this was clearly government trying to force it s way on little girls with filling your pockets ..
this is exactly what we are trying to get away from …
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:33pmShe’s tea party EXPRESS same with Palin and Beck. They‘re not real constitutionalists or they would’nt diverge off the path of the real tea party .org
Report Post »It‘s about raising money for the TEA PARTY EXPRESS AND they’re candidate Bachman with Palin as their cheerleader.
She and her coherts are nothing but copycats.
UnPlugged Ed
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:37pmBachmann looks like a crack whore. Also…She is a one trick pony (her stance on Obamacare), ill giver that, but that is ALL she has to offer, is that fight.
Report Post »ScienceIsNotEvil
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:16pmShould we bring back small pox and polio too? After all we got them under control via required vaccinations.
Report Post »2GodBeTheGlory
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 12:46pm@Science
If you can guarantee that this vaccine will cause no harm – with your own life as well as the people that push it then I will be glad to support it, however, if you know that a drug/vaccine will cause some people to die, then that is First Degree Murder* – no way around it. You cannot create a new law to hid behind an existing one.
Meaning: To kill with malice aforethought means to kill either deliberately and intentionally or recklessly with extreme disregard for human life. (the last part sticks as the company or lawmaker had PRIOR knowledge – or should have – that some people WILL die as a result of THEIR actions)
Report Post »Autumknight
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:24pmNO to RON PAUL! Sorry, never gonna happen!
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:23pmOsama bin Laden said it in his video the purpose of the 9-11 was to bring the troops over there to fight. Ron Paul gets booed for telling the truth people are so misinformed.
Report Post »UnPlugged Ed
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:39pmThats ********. If he wanted us over there he would have just bombed Israel. He wanted to do exactly what he did, begin to take us down from within…. and its working. Ron Paul is a Joke.
Report Post »Koz469
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:16pmRon Paul is the only candidate that really understands our messed up foreign policy and how it will lead to our bankruptcy. All great nations have failed because they tried to become empires.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 1:16amRon Paul is just enough off the reservation for me to not vote for him. I agree with a lot of what he says. We should not be the world police. But, his inexplicable idea that if we just leave evil alone we will not get burned by it is so dangerous. As I see it, in most cases, the reason we have a presence in the Middle East is because we were invited. The Iranians do not own the Middle East, the Saudis don’t own the Middle East, neither does Egypt, Libya, Syria, or Turkey. They each occupy a percentage. The Taliban, Al-Qaida, Bin Laden, and Islamic Terrorists do not own the Middle East. If they have a problem with the government from one country in the Middle East asking for a US presence of some kind in their respective country, then their problem is with that country. That would be like me going to my mom’s house and beating her house-guest because I didn’t like his views.
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:21pmIn the last debate Ron Paul said “‘we build a wall to keep immigrants out, but in the long run we’ll be trapping ourselves in.”
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:43pmIts been a great place to be “trapped in” upto 2008 but it can be again starting in 2012. Don’t know why RP would object to that.
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:19pmMy question is,. What was Rick Perry doing at the BILDERBURG conference? It seems every governor or attendee always ends up being elected to whatever office they were seeking in they’re next run for any office. Any official or probable candidate that attends that meeting cannot be trusted.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:41pmSteve-o,
I speak for most of the population when I say that we see nothing wrong with the rich and powerful meeting once in a while. They meet in a setting that is private (secret) so they can discuss many different ideas (conspire) and possible future trends on a global scale. I got news for you, rich people are just like you conspiracy guy’s, they like to hang around like minded individuals. You guy’s see something there but there is no there there.
Cheers – Ookspay
Report Post »TINFOIL HATS
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:31pmyep….keep thinking that way you sheep……globalist dont exist right?…..were all crazy right?…..Nevermind the facts…..and your kid is ugly
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:45pm@ OOKS
You speak for NO ONE but yourself. Now go play in the meadow, little sheep.
Are you really supporting elitists or do you hope they let you in the club some day for being so loyal? Your tolerance is the problem.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 2:35amSorry, Copatriots, but I agree with Ookspay. Recently, I saw a TV show where some leftists were outraged that the Koch brothers were having a “secret” meeting. The gist of the show was that, although the Kochs had the “right” to meet in private, that it was “wrong” for them to do so because they have so much money and power. As IF the union bosses have open meetings.
Report Post »Master_and_Commander
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 3:31amTINFOIL HATS and COPATRIOTS,
how about acting with a little maturity on here instead of acting like a bunch of snotty nosed teenage liberal hacks?
There are some of us on here who would like to actually debate issues rather than post spam and name call like you two bratty little big mouths. GROW UP OR GET OFF.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:34am@ M & C First, it was hardly immature to point to out to OOKS that he does not speak for “most of the population” and is being sheepish thinking elitist leaders are just getting together to play golf. With all that is going on in the world and the push to socialism, there certainly IS manipulation. I am not a fan of Alex Jones, by any means. But, there certainly are people (Soros, Van Jones and his 70+ groups that he admits he is collaborating with, union bosses and their thugs, and many others) who are pushing their agenda to fundamentally change this country. And, yes, CHUCK, I don’t like being manipulated by the right any more than I like it from the left.
Secondly, M&C, you don’t know me or my posts. Your responsive was presumptive and hardly appropriate. And you surely don’t own this site or even the thread. How ’bout you not take your M&C title to a place where you are neither?
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:09amAfter reflecting further, M&C…..here, my dear, is a sign of maturity. I was not on my best behavior last night and it is not how I want to be portrayed…..notably on the thread concerning Wasserman-Schultz, rather than this one. I stand by my thoughts on global manipulation and our leaders are participating in meetings that are anti-American sovereignty. These elitists, many of whom are not American, fund our candidates to spread their agenda. It is, indeed, naive to think they do not.
However, after reading your comments on this thread, you were frustrated with Bilderburg conspirarists before you ever got to my point. You also clearly support Perry while I do not….having nothing to do with Perry’s participation at Bilderburg. You were trying to direct others to support him as you do. Texas has a wonderful environment for success which is why they are doing far better than any other state. I will give Perry credit that he did not mess that up during his time as Governor.
Thank you for your chastisement even though it was somewhat misdirected. Have a great day!
Report Post »BlazeMom
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:17pmI sold pharmaceuticals. I would NEVER let my daughter get this vaccine! A mandated vaccine is akin to big pharma winning the lottery. Rick Perry has lost my support on this and his weak stand on the boarder. My support is still with Bachmann and Cain. Shake it up!! Love all this dialog friends!
Report Post »Zoe
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:23pmYes, Perry -1, 2 or a 3 ; (
I’m going to need someone a little rougher around the edges……..
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:32pmYes .. and interestingly .. one of Perry’s friends worked for the Phar co that was selling it… FORGET PERRY he is WRONG ON ILLEGALS AND WRONG ON MANDATES ON AMERICANS!
Bachmann and Cain were the best tonight ..
Report Post »UnPlugged Ed
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:41pmI can’t vote for the crack whore with bad hair & makeup…sorry.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 5:49am“… the crack whore with bad hair & makeup… ”
I completely agree with you on the horrible hair and makeup, but I don’t think Perry looks like crack whore at all.
Report Post »nancienice
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:04am.BLAZEMOM, Because you worked for a pharmaceutical company, does that give you credibility on your post about vaccines? I think not. More people will die from cervical cancer than anyone will have a side effect from this vaccine. Vaccines have saved billions of lives in this world, and it is ignorant people like you who discourage parents from vaccinating their kids. In medicine, each decision is based upon risk vs. benefit. In public health, based upon epidemiological studies, decisions are made the same way, but affect whole communities, rather than the individual.——and another thing, If a pharmaceutical company risks the capital to invest in research that comes up with amazing drugs that save lives, why shouldn’t they be paid for their products? It sounds like you’re a disgruntled employee rather than an authority on the profits of your former company. It also sounds like you’re not a capitalist, which means that perhaps you don’t belong on this blog.
Report Post »LOCKED & FIREBRAND, I’m with you.
tkrnstr
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:17pmRick Perry did the wrong thing but had the right heart. He should get some heat for what he did but to think he is evil for that is wrong. Santorum was right in regards that parents should “opt in” not “opt out” of the HPV vaccinations. Props to Perry admitting he did wrong and would do it differently if he had the chance. I’m iffy on this but on the rest of the things, Rick perry is right on and at this point in the race, he has my vote.
Rick Perry 2012 !
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:23pmI’m sure that the goons in the TSA have the right heart as they molest you, right?
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:26pmTKRNSTR,
I am not willing to throw my support behind any candidate yet, but you did a very good job of explaining the situation. Perry fully admits he was wrong in that descision. Has he removed his Executive order yet? That is the question that need be asked.
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:28pmopt in /opt out.. poor excuse to vote for people that will not win against obama in a million years.
Perry is one of , if not the only, person that can beat obama..seriously.. the american public will not vote for the others… Michelle..is a woman and we’re not ready, sorry for the screams, Paul couldn’t win if we paid everyone, huntsman is ..wwell hell he’s a loser and milquetoast and an obama shadow, romney…to the manor born and a fake, people see through him.. the others just don’t have a snowballs chance in hell. come on, your preferences aside folks..look at these people truthfully
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:33pmHis friend worked for the phar company!!!
No perry!
He is a sell out and bullied little girls!
Tea!
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:38pmYes, you’re right – he’s my Gov. and knowing his background, past actions, etc. – he really thought this was the right thing to do to save lives – he wasn’t doing it because of cronyism, etc. and there was an “opt out” for parents so he thought it ok – wrong call. He is about the strongest person that stands up for states rights, parental rights if you look at other bills he’s passed.
Report Post »I also think it’s commendable he actually came out and said here that he was wrong – and in my opinion that was from the heart too & wasn’t just a political thing which is a plus.
slr4528
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:46pmThen I take it,you must be okay with illegal immigration if you support Perry. My observation is that Perry is one big bumbling talking point who was quite fortunate to be governor of an oil rich state with no income tax. I do not understand why people think he has the brains and the know how to fix the economy when he has trouble stringing 2 sentences together-maybe all the Perry supporters like the Texas accent.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:19pm“Then I take it,you must be okay with illegal immigration if you support Perry.”
Why of course!!! Who wouldn’t? Now if you would actually take the time to read Perry’s stance on that you may see some reason. But it is much easier to play the media talking points I know.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:49pmOlefroman-I don’t do talking points. I arrive at my own conclusions by talking to my family who lives in Texas and from liberal and conservative news sources. From my family’s experience and from my own belief that special programs like tuition breaks for illegals only serves to enable illegal immigration. This subject is one of my top issues so I would never vote Perry. The U.S. Is being transformed by illegal immigrants who do not want to speak English and abide by U.S. Law. I think Bachman,Santorum,Gingrich,Cain and Romney are the candidates that will truly enforce immigration law.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 1:40amand the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 2:08amYou are right on – Perry 2012
Report Post »Master_and_Commander
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 3:43amhere SLR4528, look at Perry’s actual voting record. Since you claim to come up with your own conclusions based off the unbiased evidence, maybe you’ll be interested to learn the facts of this case rather than what people say:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Rick_Perry.htm
And by the way, I actually live in Texas, so I know our governor better than most, I’ve watched him over the years. I like other conservatives was appalled by this Vaccine move, but he has come out saying he regretted it, and his record has consistently shown he has been a pro family conservative who has nearly always stood for parental rights. And again, he could have made it worse by not providing the opt out, but by adding it he at least showed that his intentions were pure.
Report Post »Son_of_Liberty
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:17pm“If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.” Thomas Jefferson
Ron Paul 2012 <——Freedoms choice
3%
Report Post »kevjminn
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:14pmI’m glad everyone is seeing Perry for what he is. A politician. Ron Paul and Herman Caine are the man! But I gained a new respect for Santorum and Bachman. Please don’t let the GOP give us Perry or Romney. I would consider Paul, Cain, Bachman, or Santorum. But not those other guys.
Ron Paul is the only REAL conservstive. No matter what the republicans say.
Report Post »Plan B
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:22pmkevkmin
Report Post »I agree, Ron Paul, Michele Bachman ok, but please not Perry or Romney.
RepubliCorp
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:26pmRon Paul
Report Post »On the Issues – Not strong on life: Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005) – Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004) – Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
Not strong on Second Amendment Rights: Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005) – Voted NO on prohibiting suing gun makers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003) – Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)
Not strong on traditional Marriage: Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004 & Jul 2006)
There are many other votes I could cover, but haven’t. Like Ron Paul’s vote to keep Pelosi as Speaker of the House or Ron Paul’s vote to not remove Rep Chalie Rangel from his leadership position (ethics violations and all)
AverageLibertarian
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:29pmRon Paul!!!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:35pmRon Paul … is PRO PALESTINE .. which is ANTI- ISRAEL!
I stand with Israel!
TEA!
Report Post »Master_and_Commander
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 3:46amRon Paul if you haven‘t noticed didn’t get to many brownie points from conservatives tonight over his foreign policy disaster. And he’s no Conservative, he’s a libertarian. BIG difference. No Paul 2012
Report Post »Tear Em Up
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:13pmPerry just needs to come clean and say ” I trusted a friend. And I was wrong. Lesson learned. Won’t happen again.” A good leader recognizes when they make mistakes and learn from them.
http://traffic.libsyn.com/mikeleeandterrymartin/Number_80_September_10th_2011.mp3
Report Post »neverending
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 2:10amAnd I think he certainly has.
Report Post »Master_and_Commander
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 3:50amI agree, he could put this whole thing to rest for the most part if he stopped trying to save face by making it into a ”good intentioned” idea. It may have been good intentioned, but it wasn’t a good idea. I hope he comes out stronger next time and puts it away for good. He’ll be hammered every time he tries to defend it.
Aside from that, I still am leaning towards Perry in 2012. The others just come off as unappealing or fake
Report Post »Blazer123
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:10pmThis HPV fiasco stinks of republican progressiveism.
Report Post »Kathleen3
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:21pmJudicial Watch has some pertinent information on the Gardasil vaccine. Perry was the first to issue an EO on vaccinating young girls, quickly followed within days by the Democratic Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico.
Report Post »Everyone should thoroughly research the Gardasil debacle if, for no other reason, than to understand how vile Big Pharma really is and how our politicians are more than willing to sacrifice a life here and there in exchange for mega campaign donations.
momprayn
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:45pmKATH – I’m very much against “cronyism” but sincerely don’t think this is that. Knowing him as our Gov. and past bills, actions, I believe what he said (see my other post). He didn’t get “mega” contributions from this – it was $6,000. He is very much for parental rights which can be proven from his record. He just made a mistake here thinking he was helping with the cancer problem and it had an “opt out” for parents – not mandated. He admitted he was wrong by not going to the Legislature, etc.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:09pmThe Blaze poll put Cain 1st, Bachmann 2nd, and Gingrich 3rd.
Report Post »Romney and Perry were crushed.
CatB
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:36pmI agree with that assessment also!
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 2:36amI agree also.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:16amSad,really.
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:55am@tifosa
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:16am
“Sad,really.”
Yes, I would also be sad knowing that my saviour and my king were going to get thrown out of the White House next year thus ending my cushy little basement troll living life… I would feel sad to know that everything that I believe in really is not part of the majority and my entire life has been one big lie… Sad, really…
Report Post »crichton
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:08pmLoved how Santorum left Perry dumbfounded.
Report Post »UnPlugged Ed
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:50pmFunny, thats not how i saw that at all. I saw it as EVERYONE saw Perry as a threat and attacked him…even the Crackwhore went WAY out of line….Good bye Crackwhore!
Report Post »crichton
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:01pmEd, you’re just as screwed up as a liberal – going for personal name calling instead of talking about issues. Grow up clown!
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:06pmPerry is a RINO! He’s almost as slick as Clinton. He benefitted from the governors before him and rode the wave. Texas is a great state……but it is because of the people of Texas. I don’t care for Romney but he was right…..Texans were good people before Perry ever showed up. I had the great good fortune of living there for 14 years. Looking forward to going back home.
Awesome song…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z242kzdYs3A
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:30pmYou are right about Texans being Texans with or without Perry. He has been wrong about some things and had to back off them……..because of Texans and their representatives. He was wrong about Gardasil. Quite frankly, I don’t like any of the field……but that is how I have felt for years. The person I wanted is not in the field…sure wish Alan West had decided to run. :-(
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:02pmRon Paul 2012!
Get em Ron, let us get our Republic back!
Report Post »WireWizard
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:56pmBachmann slung first mud, and Santorum backed her up.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:58pmShe will not back down from a good fight,If elected She will get U.S.A. back from the brink of it’s end.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:08pmAnd I loved it.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:16pmI thought Bauchman and Santorum were disgusting for pounding Perry, even after he said it was a mistake. Brought them down many levels for me. The very first words out of Santorum‘s mouth was he didn’t switch parties to get elected. I don’t want my President to be a divider. If they knock each other, imagine how they would be with the democrats. These two were way out of line and Huntsman was downright nasty. It was obvious most were threatened by Perry. I found Perry to hold his own considering they were all after him. Cain, Newt and Perry were the only ones who seemed Presidential and in control and that’s what we need as a leader.
Report Post »crichton
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:32pmReally Faith1029, you were disgusted how Bachman and Santorum stood up for freedom. I’m not, I was hoping someone would have the guts and they didn’t disappoint!
Report Post »WireWizard
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:23pmI agree with Bachmann and Santorum, I just think that bringing money into the fight was a low blow. That was more than a difference on the issue, that was an accusation of corruption. Wrong place, wrong time for that discussion. She went too far.
Report Post »Don’t get me wrong, Bachmann, Perry, and Santorum are all fav’s of mine.
nickisme
Posted on September 15, 2011 at 2:08amAttack the leader…because they can’t beat him with honest debate. Typical politicians. Cain, Newt, and Paul were the only ones who actually seemed to have something to say other than bash one another. Perry couldn’t get a word in towards the end. It turned into a demolition derby, just like it always does. Dem. or Rep.
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