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GOP Lawmakers Claim Air Force Culture Is ‘Hostile Toward Religion’

GOP Lawmakers Claim Air Force Culture Is Hostile Toward ReligionSeveral dozen Republican House members have sent a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta accusing the Air Force of creating a “culture that is hostile toward religion.”

According to Fox News, the letter cites several recent incidents in which the Air Force “succumbed” to pressure from outside groups. Among them: a decision to change a Latin office motto to remove reference to God; no longer requiring staff to check for Bibles in Air Force Inn rooms; and suspending an ethics course because the material included Bible passages.

The 66 lawmakers said the changes can be traced back to a memo last year from Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz that said chaplains, “not commanders,” are expected to notify airmen of chaplains’ religious programs. The lawmakers said this suggested “that the mere mention of these programs is impermissible” and that combined with the other incidents, goes “beyond the requirements of the Constitution.”

“The changes lend credence to the notion that the Air Force will remove any reference to God or faith that an outside organization brings to its attention,” they wrote.

The letter, spearheaded by Reps. Diane Black (R-Tenn.), Randy Forbes (R-Va.) and Todd Akin (R-Mo.), urges Panetta to investigate the incidents and whether the Air Force is having a “chilling effect” on people of faith, according to The Hill. It requests Panetta issue “clear Department of Defense policy guidance” to put a stop to it.

The Air Force confirmed to The Hill it had received the letter, and said in a statement that airmen are “free to exercise their Constitutional right to practice their religion — in a manner that is respectful of other individuals’ rights to follow their own belief systems.”

“We are dedicated to creating an environment in which people can realize their highest potential without any consideration of one’s personal religious or other beliefs,” an Air Force spokeswoman said.

Comments (137)

  • blackyb
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:56am

    These people who are asserting command contrary to the Constitution of the United States of America should be removed, immediately.

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    • white_ostracism
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 11:12am

      Make the USAF part of the US Army again. Until 1948, the USAF was the Army Air Corp. Elimination of the USAF would save a lot of money. When I was in the USAF, we were called the “walking *******”. I was never able to find out what that meant.

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    • momprayn
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 11:24am

      WHITE – yes, sure have “progressed” a long way from when they passed out little Bible to all the military in WWII – my father had one (who, btw is related to Pres. Eisenhower). I got it out & this is what is printed on the first page (with it showing it is directlly from the White House, Washington):
      “To the Armed Forces:
      As Commander-in-Chief I take pleasure in commending the reading of the Bible to all who serve in the armed forces of the U.S. Throughout the centuries men of many faiths and diverse origins have found in the Sacred Book words of wisdom, counsel and inspiration. It is a fountain of strength and now, as always, an aid in attaining the highest aspirations of the human soul.”

      Very sincerely yours, Franklin D. Roosevelt
      January 25, 1941

      On the next page is The Lord’s Prayer, the next few is a list of “Well-Loved Hymns” (some of which is “Onward, Christian Soldiers”, “Jesus! Lover of My Soul”, “Faith of Our Fathers”, etc.and gives the lyrics.
      How far we have “regressed” indeed………

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    • shagstar
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 11:41am

      these lousy marxist,commie’s have been infiltrating our military for a long time and are now showing themselves! they are in all command structures and our side won’t confront the danger!

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 11:57am

      MOMPRAYN:
      You raise a good point and prompted a thought. I’ll no longer refer to progressives as such..and will now refer to them as “digressives”…

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    • Kalish
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 1:41pm

      Other than the pilots, air force has it much easier than the other branches, I know people that are in the army, going for ranger eventualy, getting ready to go to afganistan soon, real mans job, my brother retired from the air force after 30 years, mostly behind a desk, quite different than my father who saw real action over normandy when air force was part of the army, I support all branches of the military, just saying ….. air force supplies alot of the things that the other branches need to excel

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 2:14pm

      Religion is a personal matter, the government has no role in encouraging any one to practice any religion. Check airforce inns for Bibles violates the Establishment Clause. As long as no individual is being prevented from practicing his faith, their is no violation. Your problem is that you want the Constitutional republic replaced by a theocracy.

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    • alinmatt
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 2:17pm

      People escaped the religious persecution of state controlled Christian religions in Europe by coming to America to practice freely. As a result, Americans held a large variety of beliefs (mostly within Christianity), and they experimented with their own state religions on a more local level. Those experiments led to religious persecution again. Our founders were well aware of the necessity for religious freedom. As such, they (being Christian men) framed a constitution without one mention of God or any particular religion. That by definition makes our constitution, secular. Now, would someone please tell me how the separation of church and state violates the first amendment? Seperation of church and state is for the benefit of religious freedom.

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    • db321
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 4:37pm

      Be careful here. Don’t be too quick to judge this article. For the past two weeks the Faith Articles from the BLAZE are leaning way toward the leaf – almost demonic. I no longer trust any Article under Faith by the Blaze. If Glenn, is too busy to watch his own site then he deserves to loose his audience.

      If the FAITH Editor for the Blaze was my pastor, I would probably would walk out of that Church in a heartbeat. Just look at the Article this weekend. Let me know if I am wrong.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 8:13pm

      The AAC & USAF… was always full of Nutty Commanders; It‘s ’Catch 22′!

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    • NJBarFly
      Posted on June 25, 2012 at 12:31am

      db321 –
      The articles in the faith section are chosen for one reason: to get the fundies all fired up. This gets more page visits and increases revenue from advertisers. If you really believe the article are chosen for any reason other than getting page views and revenue, I have a bridge to sell you!

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  • blackyb
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:54am

    It is time to quit funding the airforce and instititue a part of the defense department that is not trying to overthrow the government. This branch of the armed services apparently is no longer protecting the citizens of this country. They should be discontinued until they study, learn and retake the oath of allegience of the United States of America and can protect that which it is sworn to protect.

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    • white_ostracism
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 11:15am

      I sleep will a night knowing our smoke free, greens eating, homosexual, atheist, incompetent, combat women US Armed Forces is guarding me and my family against our enemies. Do you sleep good at night these days.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 2:48pm

      You are nothing more than a traitor seeking to install a Christian taliban government to replace our Constitutional republic. The only threat are people like you.

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  • DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:51am

    The Air Force has over the last year taken extraordinary steps in removing religious symbols and references from the service. Congressman Akin stated: “When our sons and daughters join the military, they are not signing away their First Amendment right to religious liberty. Unfortunately, it seems that some parts of the military are intent on prohibiting religious expression rather than protecting it. I hope that the Secretary of Defense will respond to this strong letter from over sixty Members of Congress by issuing clear protections for the religious liberty of our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines.”

    It is vital that a consistent policy in regards to religious liberties is issued by the Department of Defense. Religious liberties should be guarded and protected in all of our Armed Forces.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 2:51pm

      Congressmen Akin is another GOP idiot in office. No serviceman’s individual rights are being violated, the Air Force like all branches of government, must be neutral towards religion and not favor anyone.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:50am

    We took God out of our public schools and look what happened to them. Taking God out of the military will destroy it also. Look for military setbacks everywhere. Get rid of the communists in this government.

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    • blackyb
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 11:04am

      This is their intention to destroy the armed services and put those in charge who have no conscious and those who will turn their weapons upon the citizens of America. These need to be stopped now.

      Just like where those in D.C. are saying the sergeant at Arms will have trouble arresting Holder because he has his own security people. The leadership of this country needs to figure out a way to arrest this man even if he has to go through Holder’s security because Congress should be protecting this country. Congress may have to declare war upon those who are using people paid by the United States to keep from being arrested for contempt. The United States Marshalls and those who are trained to deal with this may have to be enacted. The President may have to be removed as well if he intereferes. The Armed forces are to protect the citizens, not one man when it comes down to who is supposed to be protected by the armed services. Do not expect cooperation from the U.S. Air Force, as I feel they have been divided for quite some time. There will be an answer in the Constitution and it is going to have to be a time where The U.S. Senate has to make decisions that have never had to be made before. It is time to earn their money. It is critical that they start getting together and do something about this takeover and standoff within our government. Holder needs to go Now. After the elections, it will be too late, for they are going to steal this election or act above the law.

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    • JustAboutHadIt
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 2:14pm

      Great point BlackyB..Oyambag and all is cronies in Washington are purposely trying to destroy our military which will make it easier for him to hand power over to the U.N.. I’m about all out of patience with these clowns

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  • jg2pto
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:50am

    That’s funny, cuz come Sunday, every Church on Lackland AFB is full of basic trainees.

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 1:36pm

      1. First time away from home
      2. Newfound fear from drill instructors
      3. Get out of duty (busy work)
      4. Gays think they will see Obama there
      5. Genuine interest in worship

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  • Paleo Archer
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:45am

    The only separation of “Church and State” is when a member of a Political organization decides they want to climb the fence at a “active” missile site and protest….then the M.P.’s separate their A$$ from the facility at the business end of a weapon.
    I LONG for the old days when the Air Force had CINC’s – read Gen.Lemay – and others that had balls and took no crap…..Air Force is now the “Chair Force”…Glad I retired….1979 – 2010
    Strategic Air Command…To error is human,,to forgive is NOT SAC Policy….

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  • DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:41am

    Jefferson believed that God, not government, was the Author and Source of our rights and that the government, therefore, was to be prevented from interference with those rights. Very simply, the “fence” of the Webster letter and the “wall” of the Danbury letter were not to limit religious activities in public; rather they were to limit the power of the government to prohibit or interfere with those expressions.

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  • DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:40am

    Jefferson’s reference to “natural rights” invoked an important legal phrase which was part of the rhetoric of that day and which reaffirmed his belief that religious liberties were inalienable rights. While the phrase “natural rights” communicated much to people then, to most citizens today those words mean little.

    By definition, “natural rights” included “that which the Books of the Law and the Gospel do contain.” [10] That is, “natural rights” incorporated what God Himself had guaranteed to man in the Scriptures. Thus, when Jefferson assured the Baptists that by following their “natural rights” they would violate no social duty, he was affirming to them that the free exercise of religion was their inalienable God-given right and therefore was protected from federal regulation or interference.

    So clearly did Jefferson understand the Source of America’s inalienable rights that he even doubted whether America could survive if we ever lost that knowledge. He queried:

    And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure if we have lost the only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?

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  • DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:38am

    Jefferson’s view concerning religious expression, in his short and polite reply to the Danbury Baptists on January 1, 1802, he assured them that they need not fear; that the free exercise of religion would never be interfered with by the federal government. As he explained:

    Gentlemen, – The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me on behalf of the Danbury Baptist Association give me the highest satisfaction. . . . Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God; that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship; that the legislative powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association assurances of my high respect and esteem.

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  • DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:36am

    Thomas Jefferson had no intention of allowing the government to limit, restrict, regulate, or interfere with public religious practices. He believed, along with the other Founders, that the First Amendment had been enacted only to prevent the federal establishment of a national denomination – a fact he made clear in a letter to fellow-signer of the Declaration of Independence Benjamin Rush:

    [T]he clause of the Constitution which, while it secured the freedom of the press, covered also the freedom of religion, had given to the clergy a very favorite hope of obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity through the United States; and as every sect believes its own form the true one, every one perhaps hoped for his own, but especially the Episcopalians and Congregationalists. The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes and they believe that any portion of power confided to me will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly.

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  • wordweaver
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:36am

    Once the Air Force Academy chose to build that outdoor Wiccan amphitheater, I knew things were heading sideways. I wonder if the other services are facing similar problems.

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  • DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:36am

    Jefferson believed that the government was to be powerless to interfere with religious expressions for a very simple reason: he had long witnessed the unhealthy tendency of government to encroach upon the free exercise of religion. As he explained to Noah Webster:

    “It had become an universal and almost uncontroverted position in the several States that the purposes of society do not require a surrender of all our rights to our ordinary governors . . . and which experience has nevertheless proved they [the government] will be constantly encroaching on if submitted to them; that there are also certain fences which experience has proved peculiarly efficacious [effective] against wrong and rarely obstructive of right, which yet the governing powers have ever shown a disposition to weaken and remove. Of the first kind, for instance, is freedom of religion.”

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  • barber2
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:32am

    Seems like it is more the result of the influence of the Obama/ international Lefties who control the media and the Obama administration. ( remember the General-Be-Trayus Crowd ? Well, they are now Commander-In-Chief of our military forces ! ) The Left, like their founder, Karl Marx, has always considered religion to be the ” opiate of the people.” That hatred for religion is actually common to ALL totalitarian, Big Brother governments – right and left. They do NOT share control of the people with God , conscience or individual rights . BIG BROTHER is God and Caesar : all rolled into one big bully package.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:26am

    Here’s a salient article.

    http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2006/06/the-mythical-wall-of-separation-how-a-misused-metaphor-changed-church-state-law-policy-and-discourse

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  • bdandsl
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:15am

    Bet enlistment will drop because of these anti-American, anti-religion policies.

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  • Individualism
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:12am

    separation of Church and state deal with it.

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:22am

      Is that in the Constitution…?

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    • DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:28am

      The “separation” phrase so frequently invoked today was rarely mentioned by any of the Founders; and even Jefferson’s explanation of his phrase is diametrically opposed to the manner in which courts apply it today. “Separation of church and state” currently means almost exactly the opposite of what it originally meant.

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    • madderg
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:33am

      “separation of Church and state ”… please find it for us, it’s not in the Constitution.

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    • Paleo Archer
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:36am

      Really?, then I guess the AF will need to tear down the “Chapels” that are on the Base….?

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    • RedDirtTexas
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:38am

      There is a 1st amendment guaranteeing freedom of religion but there is NO SUCH THING as seperation of church and state! There was an opinion of Jefferson that the state should stay out of the business of the church, not the other way around!

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:46am

      Perhaps if you reverse the phrase, separation of state and church…we would not we where we are today.

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    • cassandra
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:48am

      INDIVIDUALISM do you know how to read or understand what you are reading ? there in nothing in the Constitution that states seperation of church and state , 1st Amendment means you have the FREEDOM OF RELIGION , meaning states,public housing,schools ,people, have the right and the liberty to practice their religion not FROM RELIGION this country was founded on Christianity the morals and our laws are from the 10 comandments a country that does not follow the laws of God is at peril

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:51am

      IDIVID – You have shown your stupidity again, Church and State isn’t in the wording at all, you pathetic imbecile.

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    • Dale
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 11:01am

      Unfortunately, Individual, you do not understand the phrase you so glibly recite. Do a little home work. Or I guess you may understand what it means and use it (as most Progressives do) to increase government’s intrusion and religious influence in the national fabric. Either way you are wrong.

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 12:00pm

      INDY is an activist….nothing more, nothing less. Heck, he’s only somewhat consistent in his message.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 12:07pm

      if christian zealots had their way with this country we would be a christian version of Iran.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 12:13pm

      freedom of religion involved separation of church and state so we don’t have christian version of sharia law.

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 1:04pm

      OK INDY,
      So what forces manifested themselves after say, the fist 170 years of our existence that we suddenly felt compelled to “contain” that threat of the Christian equivalent of Sharia?

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    • alinmatt
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 1:38pm

      @inlightofthings, tell me, where is the word God or Creator (or anything implying that) present at in our Constitution

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    • alinmatt
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 1:44pm

      @inlightofthings, a threat from Christianity or any other religion has been constrained by our constitution since the founding. Freedom takes persistant vigilance.

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 3:16pm

      ALINMATT:
      Unfortunately we let our guard down and didn‘t seek freedom from the progressive acid freaks in the 60’s. Significant changes in culture and attitudes toward our country took place then. 70% of the country says we’re on the “wrong” path so I don‘t see you winning any arguments on how it’s all lead to progress by any metric.

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 3:38pm

      ALINMATT:
      You can put a couple sentences together, so I’ll bite. You dispense with bringing to Declaration into the conversation as a matter of convenience. The Constitution was signed 11 years after the Declaration and of course the Federalist papers in the following months.

      If your semantics are going to defend the Constitution without recognizing the intent of the Declaration there’s not much discussion. You cited the escapes from religious persecution and seem to think the Founders created complete separation because religion was the evil element standing between a govt and the people. My point to INDY is that the Constitution doesn‘t state you can’t have the word God on a building, or a cross on a US park mountain. The Declaration uses the term “decent respect”. Only a moron would think that the government is advancing a secular religion and cramming it down the peoples throats with such displays.

      “The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America”,
      “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation”..

      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.

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    • alinmatt
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 5:13pm

      @inlightothings, we let our guard down beginning in 1913. Also, I don’t claim that things have progressed, I simply answered your question to the threat that Christianity poses. Any religion mixed with state power is dangerous. Given free reign to state power, Christianity would fight amongst itself for power as it did in Europe and there would be religious persecution once again.
      Oh, and don’t mistake me for a progressive liberal, I’m quite the opposite.

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 8:42pm

      ALINMATT:
      Your point is taken and I didn’t figure your for a liberal prog necessarily. Religious persecution and oppression don’t exist today with the possible exception against Christianity. The atheists cloak themselves in the constitution to strip the belief system which facilitates implementation of any number of ism’s. Personally I would lean toward their actions being a hate crime before I could be convinced their civil rights are being violated with a cross in a public square. I think the Declaration is clear as is the Constitution. I mention the 60′s with respect to the number of SCOTUS cases rendered against Christianity…we’ve been sliding ever since.

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  • Old Truckers
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:07am

    “We are dedicated to creating an environment in which people can realize their highest potential without any consideration of one’s personal religious or other beliefs,” an Air Force spokeswoman said.”

    So, no matter WHAT a person believes, he or she can still reach their highest potential in the Air Force? Wow!

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    • VoteBushIn12
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:10am

      As it should be everywhere…?

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    • doomytram
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:13am

      Kinda like if you are a black-hispanic kid or hispanic-black kid that lies through their teeth about being in the military and receiving heroic medals to a potential employer. But if you are Roger Clemens and you are suspected to have maybe lied to a lying congress, then the justice dept will spend 4 years and millions of dollars to try to spend you to prison for 10 years?

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  • doomytram
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:04am

    Muslim Outreach, Gay Marriage, Big Messiah Government, Big Bigger Biggest Spending ever, Fiscal Insanity….It’s the Barrack Hussein Oblamer Way!

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  • Stoic one
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:01am

    All sorts of strange edicts have been popping … military & religion and sexual preference; NYC and salt: nyc and large sweetened drinks; ows & that diatribe ; NBP and their race baiting; fast& furious. The list goes on and on.

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    • DagneyT
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:14am

      Plus, he‘s requiring the military to observe ’gay pride day”….Forgive us God!

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  • ApostolicIlx
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:00am

    I guess if they were serious, they would simply charge him with violation of AFI 34-246 and give him a Bad Conduct Discharge. But they aren’t serious.

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  • ApostolicIlx
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 9:58am

    I guess if they were serious, they would just charge him with violation of USAF Reg 34-246 and give him a Bad Conduct Discharge. But they aren’t serious.

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  • Baikonur
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 9:54am

    A bunch of hooey about nothing. The air force needs to know physics, mechanics, hygiene, and be normal healthy focused human beings.

    Believieng in Santa, the Easter bunny, or their equivalents will not help pilots.

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    • barber2
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:35am

      yeah. like believing in a moral code. individual rights. sure…just a bunch of ” hooey.” Am sure old Stalin and even Hitler would agree with you ! Big Daddy Government is ALL that matters.. Big Daddy and his law of the jungle ….

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:47am

      Or that social contract thing…

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    • Paleo Archer
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:50am

      reference’s to GOD are said in the flight deck of all aircraft, you just are privy to it!

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 1:49pm

      Or Archangels and Angels? (have a G&T on me.) :)

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 9:54am

    Government is a jealous God and will have no God before it,therefore you must worship government,that’s why we see government stripping every mention of God from the public sector and the assault in the private sector.

    Who created the myth of separation of church and state?

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:20am

      Some will say it was Jefferson in his letters to Baptist in Danbury, though that was not his intent. The topic first entered the courts in 1947 with a case surrounding busing in schools, parochial included. In the 60′s it became a house of cards with schools banning public reading of the bible, religious tests evolution etc. It is interesting how the schools have been a key mechanism to drive that wedge…along with the “me” generation of the 1960′s….which all might just be simplified to Lysergic acid diethylamide.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:27am

      “There is no God. When communists deny God, they simultaneously deny every virtue and every value which originates with God. There are no moral absolutes, no right and wrong. The Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the mount are invalid.” -Karl Marx

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:33am

      AXELPHANTOM That’s why communism is a death cult responsible for millions of deaths,Mao,Stalin and Pol Pot conducted their genocides because they were godless heathen.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:35am

      INLIGHTOFTHINGS Ah yes Timothy Leary and his band of counter culture freaks have done tremendous damage to our republic.

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  • havetoask
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 9:53am

    This is a strange situation for which the Air Force has no real explanation. Does that last paragraph mean that the hundreds of thousands of Air Force people who had served did not reach their highest potential or did so merely because of the concern for their religious beliefs?

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:16am

      The House of Saud, through their puppet in the White House (Obama), and their minion in the Department of State (Clinton) propagate Islam.

      Mitigating and eliminating God’s symbols and holy rituals wherever they are found is critical to paving the way for Allah and Islamic rituals. This is all part of the dawah campaign funded by the Saudis for decades. It is Jihad.

      Were we not so deeply deceived by the muslims, we would do everything in our power to reduce and eliminate Islamic symbols and rituals wherever they are found.

      Outlaw Islam. Close mosques. Deport Muslims.

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  • Tri-ox
    Posted on June 24, 2012 at 9:51am

    Yes – under obama, all of our armed forces are hostile toward religion – this is obama’s doing.

    If we are to survive as a nation, obama must be removed from power.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:09am

      This is an even stronger repeat of what happened to the military under the Clinton Administration. Tells us a lot about what the democrats intend to do to us all.

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 10:49am

      RJ,
      Perhaps more specifically, is what intend to get us do to each other…

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