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GOP Plan: Let White House Agenda Starve

GOP Plan: Let White House Agenda StarveAmid whispers, and sometimes shouts, that Republicans are in line to take back at least the House this fall, criticism has emerged that GOP leaders lack a cohesive plan to unite the party around a battle plan. But today, one is emerging.

As the Wall Street Journal explains, “House Republicans are planning to chip away at the White House’s legislative agenda — in particular the health-care law — by depriving the programs of cash.”

Practically, that means using appropriations bills to starve the White House agenda, mainly “the administration’s overhaul of health care and financial regulations and its plans to regulate greenhouse gases.” According to the article, GOP leaders also hope to cut spending, return unspent stimulus money, and cut taxes.

“We need to establish the proverbial lines in the sand and show we are serious about limited government,” said Wisconsin’s Rep. Paul Ryan, a popular “young gun” House leader.

The White House, however, is hoping that people already addicted to government programs, specifically health care, will make Republicans pay. “What the Republicans will be faced with is really taking those benefits away,” said Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of Health and Human Services. “They will have to face their constituents who have their children enrolled on a family plan and say, ‘That can’t happen anymore.’”

Come November, Republicans just might have to have those tough conversations — and they seem willing to, for now.

Comments (103)

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  • American Pride
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:57am

    Start with stopping the hiring of 16,000 IRS workers. That alone would severely cripple the bill. The ridiculous off the hook bill.

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  • rfycom
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:52am

    BTW sport fans. This not a left versus right anymore. This is a poor versus rich. The rich have the dollars but the poor have the numbers.

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  • rfycom
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:51am

    RFYCOM does not get blinded by the light. You have to peel that onion back. Emotion does not always make for good decisions. A nut job is a nut job does not matter what they say on camera. Take your responsibility as a voter and a party supporter more serious.

    DICKHUNTER? come on that is a funny name.

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  • adifftake
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:34am

    Please anyone: Just show me one person in congress or running for congress, willing to serve on his/her own dime. OK, we will reimburse thier living expenses.

    No one, not even one person I have heard, has any sort of plan to pay off the debt, and shrink the size of the federal government. 14 trillion + what, another 107 trillion of unfunded liabilities? Ok let’s play a new game, since the world does not have that much money in circulation.

    Question: Other than the military which we need for our protection from despots foreign and domestic, how many days/years would the federal government have to shut down to have enough money collected to pay off all that debt, and fund the future liabilities? Remember: this debt includes the pentions of all those government workers too.

    I’m just saying it seems the argument is we want and deserve it all. So how long do we shut ‘er down?
    People with greater math skills than mine will have to do this equation.

    Second question: What are you willing to do without, in the meantime and will you help your neighbor through? Seriously where do you shrink the size of government? Just asking is all.

    As far as I can tell there aren’t enough people who are willing to do without for any meaningful period of time, so as to have any effect. Until we all come together, all political stripes and decide that freedom is worth the sacrifice then it is all a waste of time.

    UNITED WE STAND. DIVIDED WE FALL. REFUSE TO BE DIVIDED!

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    • JnKC
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 12:26pm

      I’m one of those that take government money; I am a retired veteran on pension. I watched the welfare program grow from the beginning and I am very dis-satisfied. My income was frozen last year meaning no COL raise while the COL rose a huge amount. I’m not looking for hand outs, I’m looking for what the government promised. It looks as though it will be difficult to actually obtain all the promises. As soon as someone was able to fool the government into providing disability pay; thousands ran for the goal.

      Now we have hundreds of thousands living the life of governmental providence with more promised every day. Past President Bill Clinton did a bit to reform the welfare system and much more needs to be done. Those getting the “easy life” will scream bloody murder as they did when Clinton told them the free ride was over and get a job. The current government is encouraging thousands more to take the hand out and that is preposterous. Even the idea of our government providing for the huge pay union pensions and the low pay government programs makes me angry. Remember back in the day when charity organizations provided help for folks?

      I was grabbed one day a few months ago by the services lady in the HUD apartment building I live in. Yes, HUD; there is no way I could pay over $600.00 a month for an apartment or rental home. The lady had me give her some details and a week later I got a cell phone with minutes given every month. Do all seniors or retiree’s need cell phones? This is a life line program to be sure I have some way to call people when needed. It’s a government hand out all the same; just like where I live is a hand out. The rent here caps at just over $400.00 a month for a single bedroom, small apartment.

      What I am getting at; there is no real way to have a decent life even when the government hands out as much as possible to folks. The government should not even be in the position of providing retirement insurance to begin with. It is the individual American that needs to look toward the time when their career is complete and rest. FDR and his policies like the New Deal really mislead Americans and Social Security is not a safe haven when individuals have no retirement plan. All it was meant for was a bit of a safety net. As soon as a chance to live for free is given, many will do all they can to collect a free living.

      I was pushed into retirement because I simply could not go on making my way in the world. Hundreds of thousands did not have to retire, or even retire because they worked. The government entitlement programs led to a very bad situation like multiple generation welfare recipients. The same entitlement programs encourage the dishonest to milk the government for all they can and do nothing in this world. Change is needed badly; not the transformation the current president wants. That is total governmental control that plows under civilizations.

      What are we to do? I’ve given up increases in pay and settled for health care that is provided by the government through the Veterans Administration. I live with a bunch of folks I don’t particularly like (some are frauds, but not many.). I pay the inflated rates for food and utilities; I can’t own a car at current prices due to lack of income to support it. Even if I could buy a cheap car; I couldn’t pay the insurance premiums, gas, and upkeep of it. I could live for 10 years on what a Congressman makes in one year and would really enjoy the upgrade in a Congressman’s health care.

      Where is the government’s responsibility here? Our government simply cannot provide for everyone to have everything they want. Even with that; there are those who seek to not work and be helpful citizens in this country. REFORM is a much needed thing. Reform will cost me in one way or another I am sure. It is not our government‘s responsibility to make everyone’s life some sort of utopia. Charity for those that are in need is a good thing, yet the government prevents real charity any more. The madness has to end; stop Congress and this ridiculous president we have.

      Vote and use your voice for change; the two party governmental system needs to become a thing of the past. The Democratic party just happens to own the villains this time around. The Republican party has/had just as many villains. I see the current buzz on the media stations of the Tea Party being a part of reform for the Republican party. That is nonsense because there are just as many bad Republican Congressmen with long careers. No single political party will ever provide what Americans need in government and Congress is not providing anything Americans need.

      There are hundreds of Congressmen that need to be replaced, one president that needs to be replaced, and several Supreme Court judges that need to be replaced. In short; our government needs to be “gutted” and started over with safeguards for our citizens. The sort of power that government provides to those that govern is a very mean spirited thing. The governmental powers have been subjugated and turned to the will to those that seek power over citizens, a country, and eventually the world. Citizens of America need to act now and act in long term ways to prevent the ungodly turn our government has taken for decades. As far as making a viable plan to reform goes; that will take Americans a long time to perfect.

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    • MESO71
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 8:01pm

      ADIFFTAKE,
      For once a fair question from someone with doubts. The simple truth, is that without government handouts, interference, and practices that restrict the growth of business and wealth… We the people will provide that charity. I know that that sounds hard to believe given the blinders of the current society that are put upon us. But charity will begin in very quiet and subtle ways, then like weeds, it will quickly grow to fill in any and all gaps where there is a chance for growth, It is simply natures way (Gods way). And left to our own, the way that we will naturally gravitate towards.
      I know that this sounds like a delusional pipe dream, trust me, I do… But when you understand the mechanics of it, it all makes clear sense. It starts simply when like minded people in a community begin to pool their resources in order to better their lot. You would be amazed at how well a good many people can do with just a very little when they practice this. This would be called a community (A real community, not just neighbors co-existing). Soon, the stubborn loner holdouts with dwindling resources will see the value and want to join the community.
      Next, the community will have increased needs and a desire to fulfill those needs. So they will create businesses, businesses create jobs, jobs create wealth, wealth creates more jobs and a need for more businesses, and the cycle goes on and on. Also it grows exponentially, as communities pool together their resources to create even more growth and wealth.
      All of this growth, and wealth, and jobs would include taking back the jobs and industry that were taken over by illegal immigrants, or sent overseas by the iniquities created by constant government intrusion, and strangling policies.
      By now this should be sounding quite a bit less crazy. As a matter of fact, it should sound quite familiar. These are the basics of the principals that made this nation so great. So great as a matter of fact that it took twenty years of increased taxes and restrictive policies to finally buckle the knees of this great nation after Reagans restoration of “Supply Side Economics”.
      Fair taxation and nonrestrictive policies will enable the prosperity to get us back on track. All of that money has not bean spent yet, and there is still time (barely) to stop that damage from increasing our burden.

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  • NomoObama
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:21am

    Yo Rifcom and QueenQwack: Obama must be stopped and assuming we still get to vote, he will. He has angered lots of people with his arrogance and his hatred of America and successful hard working good Americans. Recently he has been laughed at and/or criticized by comedians everywhere, fellow Democrats, foreign leaders and even Donald Trump who said he knows many wealthy people, some his friends, some enemies and they all dislike Obama. Wake up folks.

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    • rfycom
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 11:02am

      I hear this arrogance thing a lot. Bush was arrogant. So was Clinton, Kennedy, Ragen, Adams, Washington, and Jefferson. Come to think of it, so is Trump, Bloomberg, and any other successful person, male or female. To be a leader you have to have a bucket full of arrogance.

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    • rfycom
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 11:16am

      Oh boy this is fun. I like to look at both sides of this crazy political crap bucket we are in. Take the emotion out of the equation and try to use common sense. See NOMOOBAMA the same things you say about the president were said about our last president. Now I voted for Bush, but the man was a ******, who at times seemed to be clobbering our country. Some of the best late night jokes every came at W’s expense. It was funny as heck.

      If you turn left and keep going left you will eventually make a circle. Guess what happens if you turn right and don’t stop

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    • Independent Tess
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 1:27pm

      Wish we could get back to the “citizen politician”(can’t remember the exact term) envisioned by Washington, Jefferson, etc. The average citizen who served one or two terms because of a desire to serve the country , then went back home to their regular job. Career politicians were never what they wanted.

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    • COjohngalt
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 1:30pm

      RFYCOM,
      Agreed, Bush was a progressive and many of his policies sucked as a result. Doesn’t change the fact that this Pres. is just as bad if not worse. I think that is the reason for the big back lash, there were folks that thought they were getting change, not more progressive BS.

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    • NomoObama
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 1:46pm

      Sorry RYFDUMB but I’m gonna make this a little harder for you. There is a slight difference between confident and arrogant, and successful people are hardly all arrogant. Another difference is Obama is the only arrogant one you named who is trying to socialize our country. And btw, would you please explain for all of us right wing whacks what exactly was bho referring to when he said he wanted a civilian force as large and as well funded and as well armed as our military? No spin, just answer the question.

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    • Contrarianthinker
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 2:50pm

      True leadership is provided as an example by Jesus Christ: humility and service to others.

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  • Moonage Daydreamer
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:10am

    Difficult times are ahead if we want to save our country from this insipid creeping tyranny.

    I look back and see what America was, I do not like where Obama is taking this country, I hardly think any freedom loving person does, it comes down to what any one individual expects from this nation. And vote accordingly, and to conscience.

    When we look at the polls, it is hard to believe that the Democrats could win, it is hard to believe that so many still fully support Obamas’ agenda…but they do.

    I have total confidence in Conservatives, and all the “Young Guns,” to help put this country back on track, I do not want us to be like every other country out there…we are EXCEPTIONAL in that we are FREE!! We fought to live a different life from the one many came to America for…I do not want us to ‘slide back’ to Euro style governance, but that is exactly where we are headed…

    We need to stick together, quit answering these trolls that patrol this site day in and day out, they detract from the issues every time, they are a waste of time, don’t do it folks.

    There is only one thing I am sure of, we have to vote and get these establishment politicians out. No ifs‘ ands’ or buts’, it is coming down to the wire, it’s now, now is the time to make as many changes as possible to carry us through to 2012…

    I pray daily for our great country, for our service men and women who fight daily to secure our freedom, and I pray for us, for the strength to continue our ‘fight’ against all that is said and done to us.

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    • vennoye
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 3:30pm

      Well, we have a lot of WORK to do!! But lets be honest with ourselves, it is our job to do the work! When I get angry over where we are as a country today, I get angry with myself. The progressive movement may have started before my time, but it really gained traction on OUR WATCH!! I look back at the times I did not push back when progressives said stupid stuff, and the times when I haven’t made a difference when I could–we should have started yelling a long time ago. It is going to take more than just our votes to correct this–we need to remember “from whenst we came”. MANY of us came from poor families, but everybody was poor, so we were just like everybody else. When people needed help, we couldn’t just throw dollars at the cause, we got up and went and helped them. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN! To reduce the size of government, we will need to meet our neighborhood and local government needs–turn off the TVs and get involved.
      For many of us, this will just be turning back to how we were raised. Many of us had parents who had lived through the Depression and World War II, who saved and used everything–we have seen them do this and learned from them. That is why it is our job to help correct this–many of us may not have raised our children and grandchildren to know how to survive during bad times–we just need to remember how to do it!! And on the plus side, not only will we and our country be BETTER, we probably won’t even have to worry about going on a diet!!

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  • CoFX
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:05am

    Absolutely the wrong approach, Repubs. Allowing Dems to scare the huddled masses, afraid to lose thier precious aid programs, would result in higher Dem turnout at the polls.

    You may be claiming to only defund the projects passed by the Obama admin, but how much do the American people as a whole trust ANY politician these days? Taht fear carries over into any type of assistance they get now.

    It should have been thier responsibility to have their own plans for any bill that came through the Dem side. Just because you are the minority party, doesn’t mean you just sit on your hands. If you had a healthcare bill of your own written up, talk about what your plan would have been. If you want to take measures to restore our economy, talk about those ideas! You sound like a child throwing a tantrum. Refuse funding, period. No word on what you will do to change or replace these bills. You don’t have to have a comprehensive plan, but at least tell the public what your general intentions are!

    Sounds to me like the establishment on the right really doesn’t want the pressure of being in power. Might be too much work and too many difficult decisions to be made. Time to get people in there who will take on the challenges without fear, and make the right choices for the American people.

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    • IndianaUSA
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 11:25pm

      The Republicans had a plan for health care reform. It was for reform, not for complete takeover. Paul Ryan had a plan as well as the Senator from Tenn. Obama kept asking for ideas, but wouldn’t return phone calls or e-mails to people with the ideas. Maybe you should get your news from other sources. The Republicans need to defund evrything for two years and then completely repeal the disastrous legislation that this administration has passed that will completely bankrupt this country. If the Republicans can’t return this country to our Constitutional values and fiscal responsibility, then we will vote them out.

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  • AChristian
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:53am

    Every year the Poverty Level is raised. meaning you can make more money & still be poor. The higher the bottom line, the more people that qualify for Social Welfare programs. The higher the number of recipients of handouts, the closer the final straw comes to breaking the camels back.

    Add in a few million Illegals to the cradle to the grave roster, and the economy collapses from the weight. Cloward/Piven and the Regressive Dems dance in the streets. The USA becomes a Socialist Utopia. Unless all of the lifetime freeloaders & those that do not really qualify for Social Welfare are kicked off the gravy train.

    Give a hand up, not a hand out. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish & he will eat as long as there are fish. GOD will provide the fish.

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    • Waiting4George
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:27am

      What is poverty? No shelter? No food? Or no high speed internet? Do some research on poverty guidelines set by the feds—for the purpose of increasing eligibility for entitlements. Free rent, Free food, Free utilities, Free cell phone and social security disability income for children diagnosed hyperactive or adults diagnosed as alcoholics. Tis true—

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  • KITA
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:43am

    IMHO It sounds like a difficult stance to take. I say GO FOR IT ! We CAN NOT allow government to hand things out to us. Smaller government, not bigger government. I pray for victory. It won’t be easy- these are the kind of thoughts that needs to be addressed. Good luck, getting folks off of the dripping morphine IV won’t be easy. Any you’re the devil for stopping it – but it’s the right thing to do !

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  • RobR
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:40am

    No Kathy, just your adult children. With the Republicans back in charge, those young adults will once more be able to go out in the world, start a rewarding career( with benefits ) and start their own families. That is what America is all about. Not the sick perversion that is Obama‘s bizarro land we’re forced to endure today.

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  • v.o.t.e.
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:40am

    did anyone else notice the 20% increase in healthcare rates in conn. due to obummer care

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  • TheLeftMadeMeRight
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:37am

    “The White House, however, is hoping that people already addicted to government programs, specifically health care, will make Republicans pay.”

    It needs to be explained that having a paid ticket sounds great, unless your seat is on the TITANIC!

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    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:28am

      CONGRATULATIONS!! The PEREFECT ANALOGY!! We are all booked on the final voyage of the the good ship U.S.S. TITANIC. We hit the ice in Nov.2008 and this baby is down by the helm and sinking fast.

      Thank You Sir!!

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  • Marylou7
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:35am

    Praise the Lord for Paul Ryan and other young guns. These young people are not trying to cut anyone off, but they do have some good ideas for cutting back and saving social security and etc. Even if it hurts me (and it could), I am willing to tighten the belt and suck it in.

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    • Hadassah
      Posted on September 21, 2010 at 10:29am

      Amen! Now is the time to be on our knees for our government.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:31am

    If denying the funding is the only way Republicans can try and stop the majority party from this ridiculous spending spree, then go for it! Once there is some balance in DC, maybe there can be some compromise. Let’s hope so! One party control is NEVER a good thing, ever!
    I wonder why there is never talk about the YOU CUT website? Lot’s of ideas for cutting spending there, some directly from the American people! The Democrats have not agreed to a single one, including freezing their OWN pay, like they did to our seniors this year. Republicans HAVE ideas, the left just doesn’t like them.

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  • Wiz001
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:29am

    Get “ADDICTED” to the govt. health care robbery. I do not think so.. I do not know about anyone else out there Except for Bill O’Riley who has had their H/C cost go up.. Mine for a single, healthy, individual who owns a small business and pays my own insurance. Mine went up 50% this year just after the anouncment that the Govt. will make me have to carry ins…Is this his idea of redistribution of wealth, cause if it is he is looking at the wrong person I make under 50,000 a year and can’t pay the premiums they want me to and be able to eat.. I thought anyone under 250,000 would not see any tax(which is what manditory H/C is) go up one penny??? I would like any liberal out there to explain that to me!!!!!!!!!!!! Please pray for our troops..

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  • Born2Run
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:27am

    “You wouldn’t do that to the children, would you?” I can just hear the blubbering now from the liberals and RINOs.

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  • dkspiers
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:07am

    That’s a good start, but cutting ALL unnecessary spending, cutting taxes and returning common sense decision making is the ultimate prize. Purging the government of all career “public servants”, whether they are R‘s or D’s, will be required to accomplish this goal. When they are in Washington too long, their judgment and values erode and THEY become the problem. Wonder what it would be like to take a 12 month furlough…

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    • v.o.t.e.
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:32am

      please support the v.o.t.e. movement—Vote Out The Encumbents—-

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  • Dan White
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:01am

    It is the only plan that can stop the downspiral of our economy. Add to it the conitnuation of the “Bush Tax Cuts” and we will recover, jobs will return.

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  • Oldsailor
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:01am

    Paul Ryan, they new face of American conservatism. He has God on his shoulder and the wind at his back. Defend him and protect him because the progressives will try to destroy him.

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    • v.o.t.e.
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:18am

      Amen

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    • COjohngalt
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 1:22pm

      Paul Ryan/Ron Paul 2012? They would get my vote. A fiscal conservative teamed up with a small government Libertarian…can’t wipe the smile off of my face just thinking about it!

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    • jcatlanta
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 5:05pm

      If Ryan is really a fiscal conservative, then why did he vote for TARP, HR 384 on 1-15-09? I want to belive these “young guns but their voting record doesn’t line up.

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  • v.o.t.e.
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 8:59am

    please tell people to v.o.t.e. make bumper stickers– get out the v.o.t.e. start a national bumper sticker campaign- you can create your own online cheaply— vote out the encumbents — the incumbents are a encumbrance to our freedoms– no more career politicians

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    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:20am

      YES! By all means VOTE, and vote for ANYBODY but the INCUMBENTS!! IF enough Berserkers can be elected to completely paralyze the Status Quo Government Machine, the ensuing legislative chaos will speed the final implosion started in 2008.

      The more programs than can be de-funded, the better. Fewer Government Checks for the thugs, moochers and thieves they support. As well as fewer Government Workfare workers paid to administrate these income transfer (theft) programs. The more mouths that can be jerked off their chosen Government Teat, the better. As always, they will make their dissatisfaction known, and the Roof Top Voters can begin casting their BALLOTS.

      Learn to grow food and provide the ability to defend it from the thugs both regular and Institutionalized. With any luck the “CIVIL WAR RESET” button can be pushed before the 2012 Dog and Pony Show.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:35pm

      Thankfully, Gott-Em-Mauser is on the case! Always ready to one-up the crazies.

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  • Duckhunter
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 8:54am

    Add your comments

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:12am

      RFYCOM uses the Tyrants tactic to attack and vilify the messenger in the hope that the people will forget the message. Anything to prevent a discussion of the issues! http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • QweeQwa
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:37am

      Give it a rest Toby. After 2 weeks on this site I have yet to see 1 intelligent conversation among you people.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:58am

      QweeQwa, would you recoginize an intelligent conversation? http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • QweeQwa
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:24am

      Yep and I have yet to find one on here.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:43am

      QweeQwa, perhaps. you should start an “intellegent conversation.” You could start by telling us why the poverty and dispair that existed for thousands of years before the industrial revolution was not the result of the oppression of the individual by the tyrants. You could explain why the current oppression of the individual is different from that of the “Tribal Chiefs and Witch Doctors” who controlled what passed for civilization before the industrial revolution. Don’t forget to tell us why it will be “different this time.” http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • wingedwolf
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 12:29pm

      Duckhead, I would vote for Donald Duck, the wicked witch of the west and all her monkeys before I will ever vote for a demolibersocialcommie freak who hates this country. We may not always get things right the first time, but after that we try something else, not the same old “mad scientist, vee shall rule da vorld“ simon barr sinister ”I’ll be the king of everything” communist takeover plan. If you think your life would be so much better in a place like that, why not try it out? Why not see how well you live in Cuba? As long as you don’t renounce US citizenship, you can come back. Why do you want to destroy the last place on Earth where people can make of themselves anything they have the desire and the drive to be? Why do you think everyone from every country is coming here, you stupid freak, if the socialcommie system you so badly want to set up here is so good for all people? Why do they risk their lives and the lives of their children just to give them the SLIGHTEST chance at living in prosperity, of having enough food in their bellies and a chance to earn a living beyond the bare necessities? You’d better think about it before you throw away the legacy that has been gifted to you by birth and that millions of people would willingly give their lives for the smallest chance at attaining.

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    • Independent Tess
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 1:01pm

      Hey Qweeqwa, you need to check out Hitchens thread. I answered your error about my source of info. Didn’t you read the article you were posting in?
      Sloppy work, Qweekwa, sloppy work…..

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    • Contrarianthinker
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 2:55pm

      Quee: i challenge you to start an intelligent conversation to show us how one looks. I pledge to you that i will follow your exsample. Ok?

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  • Duckhunter
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 8:53am

    I say go conservatives go. I am a Tea Party member and I do not vote for rhino republicans and progressive republicans. Let’s do it right this time keep Barry Soetoro A.K.A. Barak Hussein Obama (his stage name) in his place, hopefully out of this country.

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    • v.o.t.e.
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:14am

      rfycom– you gotta be kidding– obama admitted to cocains and marijuna use –when he was young– we all have growing up moments– she was in high school– its shmuks like you who swollow the msm smear campaign without putting it in perspective that allows the msm to be suckcessful– think man think

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    • wingedwolf
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 12:35pm

      Duckhunter LOL LOL LOL I am profoundly sorry I addressed those last comments to you that I meant to address to rfycom. I honestly don’t know what happened, I’d like to blame it on brain failure, but since I had a great command of my language and enough of that to address you as “duckhead” I don‘t know if that’s good enough. Please accept my sincere apologies for addressing those comments to you WHICH WERE MEANT FOR RFYCOM.

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  • rfycom
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 8:52am

    STARVE? It is the average family who is starving. I am not voting for a party who’s only agenda is to STARVE the running of my government. I expect my party to go to Washington and solve problems. That means you are not aways right about everything. That means that you do not lie to keep your ass in office and to pad your pockets. MAKE THIS GOVERNMENT work.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:04am

      Almost anything that removes power from the “Fourth Branch of Government” will enhance our freedom. Since Obama has veto power, the only way to prevent the chaos that will result from the multitude of Obama initiatives is to prevent funding of those initiatives until the tyrant can be removed from office.

      Rules and regulations created and enforced by the “Fourth Branch of Government” (the bureaucracy) that restrict innovation, inhibit the creation of wealth and provide advantages to the “technologically challenged” are the root cause of our problems. Inflation, credit and failure of financial institutions are just the symptoms, an attempt to cover up the failure of “disastrous centralized planning.”

      Money manipulation is simply a method of misappropriation of wealth. Wealth must be created before it can be misappropriated and the Bureaucracy inhibits the creation of wealth.

      Our problems started when the bureaucracy obtained significant power during Roosevelt’s (T) Administration. About 10 years later the Fed Was created and it’s been downhill every since.

      Chapter 8 (The Bureaucracy – ICC) of “21st Century Common Sense” addresses this point in detail, including a description of the “Iron Triangle” (control of the bureaucracy by special interest) and an enlighten quote by Woodrow Wilson highlighting the capture of the Bureaucracy by “special interest.”

      The bibliography on my website allows you to visit the websites used for the book’s research just by “control-clicking” on the website address.

      http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:16am

      To prevent starvation, one must first produce wealth (food). Every Obama initiative is calculated to either destroy wealth, inhibit the creation of wealth or redistribute wealth to political cronies!
      http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • DanB
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:20am

      If you believe in small government, then you MUST put government on a diet. In this case, a very, very big diet. In this approach, we believe that as government shrinks so will you chances of putting food on your table INCREASE.

      BUT (these things can get big and ugly) if you believe it is government’s responsibility to put food on your table, then you want bigger government—and I hate to break your illusion and shatter it but many of those places with big, big government historically get something called “bread lines.” So get in line and hope for that food you so desperately need.

      As for myself, and we can barely afford our bread, I want smaller government. I am for starving. The only problem I have is that these appropriation bills ARE the problem. So I am against that. As I see it, government has to stop spending. Cutting off these bad legislations by defunding them is great but I read this and it sounds like we may be creating a situation where instead of one group becoming dependent on government we just shift the money to another group creating the exact same sort of dependence but now we call it good???

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  • v.o.t.e.
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 8:50am

    great idea– 70%–don’t want obama care– also what would happen if a white president told a white audience to “get out the white vote” –amazing what bho gets away with from msm

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    • angelcat
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:29am

      Exactly! I certainly hope that if Republicans gain the power they actually do this and don’t back down and try to compromise when the lamestream media, Stewart, Maher, Moore, Behar, Maddow, and the rest start villainizing them and viciously attacking. Time to man up and show they have skins much thicker than Obama’s. Come to think of it, a 5 year old has skin thicker than his.

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  • tobywil2
    Posted on September 20, 2010 at 8:49am

    Today’s conflict is between freedom and tyranny. Of course, those who support oppression of the individual do not call it tyranny.

    Time will decide who is wins and the conclusion is imminent. If freedom is lost a very barren future for the human race is ahead as we sink back into the “Middle Ages.”

    The American Revolution, that lifted the world out of the “Middle Ages,” cannot survive the growth of bureaucracy and loss of individual freedom contained the three 2000+ page laws that have already been passed. Remember, the Bible is only 1500 pages long.

    One final thought, if tyranny was in mankind’s best interest, the oppression that characterized the Middle Ages would have resulted in prosperity and happiness. The perfect economic system would have been discovered and there would have been no American Revolution.

    Tyranny dominated the world for thousands of years and the result was always poverty and despair. Who really thinks it will be different if tyranny again rules the world?
    Ayn Rand said “don’t envy the Millionaire’s mansion; fear the millions that crave your refrigerator.” http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • Gigantopithecus
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:28am

      TELL THE TRUTH SEBELIUS!!!! You know you are going for a SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM – you know you want to be able to decide WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES – we know this is nothing but a DEMWIT POWER GRAB – we know you are going for WELFARE HEALTHCARE and you will TRASH THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM and BANKRUPT THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!! PROSECUTE SEBELIUS FOR HIGH CRIMES AND TYRANNY!!!!

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    • Freelancer
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:32am

      Anyone taking bets that some contrived national emergency will postpone the November elections? I’m not convinced that this administration is going to allow the elections to take place as they know that even if they keep the majority, their chances of passing more oppressive legislation is going to be nearly impossible.

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    • carrera
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:06am

      Freelancer- Hugo Cavez dispatched his civilian militia, Venezuela’s National Bolivarian militia, ahead of next weeks election. His personal militia is comprised of like minded thinkers, their goal is to intimidate and disrupt. Stratfor.com has been reporting on the regime rationing food and electricity as well as medicine for any and all dissenters. Our own Government has Americorps, President Obama spoke of the importance of having a civilian Army “larger than the National Guard” While I doubt he will dispatch a militia against the American people during this November’s election, there never is day that goes by that I’m not shocked by his actions. I am confident our American military will never allow it, they will uphold the Constitution, they will protect our great Country. Our elections have never been so important as they are now.

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    • 79USMC83
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:21am

      Definition of TRAITOR
      1: one who betrays another’s trust or is false to an obligation or duty
      2: one who commits treason

      Now put the word CONGRESS in for TRAITOR!!! This is the ONLY reason there IS a TEA PARTY.

      Crist is a TRAITOR for running as an Independent. Specter was a TRAITOR for jumping ship also!!

      Beck has a rally about CHARACTER, the LEFT is all over him and the people that attended it!!!

      Many of WE THE PEOPLE are sick of your PARTY POLITICS. The reason the center has moved RIGHT though is not for the Republican PARTY so much. It is that the other choice is to vote for PROGRESSIVES,SOCIALISTS and COMMUNIST like the COMMUNIST O’Donnel will be running against in Delaware!! Just like the Pelosi’s, Reid‘s and Frank’s.

      There is NO MORE Democratic Party that many joined decades ago!!

      Look at all the Dems that are running away from the “Speech Giver” and the Health-Care Bill they voted for just to get votes and stay in office. THIS is what WE THE PEOPLE are sick of!!

      Mandatory Health-Care was not a tax and Steph read him the freaking definition. Now that it is going to lose in court it is a TAX!!

      WE THE PEOPLE do not mind paying tax’s it is the CRAP we pay for. $800,000 dollars of STIMULUS money to teach AFRICAN men how to wash their Genitalia !!!

      BETTER DEAD THAN RED !!

      TERM LIMITS NOW !!!

      FAIR TAX NOW !!

      NO MORE PENSIONS FOR CONGRESS!!

      NO MORE CAREER POLITICIANS!!
      9/20/2010 8:53:11 AM

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    • JKN
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:23am

      It is far past time that our political “representatives” stop representing global corporations, big unions and special interest groups and start representing the majority will and best interests of the American people.

      After decades of open borders, “Free” Trade deals and “misrepresentations,” the American people are finally waking up to reality. As our quality of lives deteriorate, we realize that we are governed by a two-party/one-party monopoly. One party represents global corporations, the other party represents global unions; and both parties are driving us over the cliff… All in the name of personal wealth and greed, and all at the expense of the American people.

      America is truly at the 11th hour… What will it be? Back to the Constitution, common sense and the rule of law with a smaller government, fiscal accountability, rugged individualism and civil liberties? Or will we become a piece of a “global society” run by a handful of wealthy global elitists at the top with no hope for the chance of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

      We either fight for America and her founding principles of freedom as we know it, or lose it… This is our choice.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:32am

      Obama’s only hope of achieving his goal of becoming a dictator is to complete his take-over before the November elections or declare martial law before those elections. If the power grab results in to armed conflict there is little hope for the survival of freedom and our constitution. In all of history, thaer has been only 1 George Washington. The result of armed conflict will be a dictator, perhaps one the promises free elections in a year, just as Castro promised Cuba. Cuba is still waiting. But the dictator will probably not be Obama. Civilization will sink back into the Middle Ages, http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • dressseller
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 11:17am

      I am genuinely concerned for what may happen before the elections ..both this year and before the 2012 elections. Have you heard Nancy Pelosi’s bold statements of late.. “We WILL NOT go back”. ..What do they know that we don’t?.. Sounds like a pretty definitive statement of fact to me. And I really don’t put anything past the realm of possibility that this regime is capable of or will try.

      My husband had a dream the other night. It scared him and he told me about. Mind you ..it’s only a dream (or rather a nightmare). .but in his dream the Pentagon suffered a nuclear attack. What on God’s earth would that do to our military if it ever came to pass? Be vigilant and wide awake America. These people are not about to step down willingly or leave easily now that they are so close to getting what they want.

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    • carrera
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 12:27pm

      dressseller- The Weather Underground wanted to eliminate the Pentagon. Islamist tried to eliminate the Pentagon and Robert Gibbs stated several weeks ago when mocking the “professional Left” that they wanted to get rid of the Pentagon, Terrorist always attack again when they are not first successful. The World Trade Center is a perfect example. Combining that knowledge with Gibb’s highly unusual statement and the fact that the Obama Administration leaked online our civilian nuclear sites it is no wonder your husband is having nightmares.

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    • Contrarianthinker
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 2:52pm

      FWIW, I’ve warned for over a year that we are being set up for a National Emergency. Our reaction IMO should be to organizae the 80 million gunowners in a form of ready reserve to defensively protect our Constitutional rights.

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    • dressseller
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 6:58pm

      The thing that really freaked me out about his ‘dream’ was that he said it was so vivid and he didn’t think he was actually fully asleep at the time.. but just falling asleep. It was like some kind of weird premonition he said. …We both are so engaged these days and maybe are plugged in to too much news and too many details..(if that’s possible) …But.. ..like you all have said.. there are startling irrational movements in this administration …which in and of themselves *might* not add up to much.. but when you put everything together they create a picture that you wonder if someone somewhere isn’t laying the ground work for some kind of event to happen.

      But what are you gonna do.. ..tell someone ‘I had a vision’.. ..lol. ……People tend to play out the stresses in their lives through their dreams.. I know that. For weeks after 9/11 happened I would go to sleep at night and literally dream night after night that I was in the rubble at the WTC trying to pull people out. And I don’t know a single soul personally that was there ..I can’t imagine what it did to those who did know someone.

      I hate what this insane administration is doing to all of our lives. Don‘t tell me we aren’t under MUCH GREATER stress these days because of what they have done and are doing to our nation.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:31pm

      God some of you people are crazy. It would be funny if you folks didn’t take yourselves so seriously.

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