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GOP Rep. Has Testy Exchange With Prof: ‘I’ll Call You Anything I Want to Call You’

If you ever get into an argument with Alaska GOP Rep. Don Young, he could reserve the right to call you whatever he wants to call you. At least that’s the position he took with Rice University professor Doug Brinkley at a hearing on Friday.

The exchange occurred during a House Natural Resources Committee hearing regarding the possible effects of drilling in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

HuffPo details what happened:

Young addressed Brinkley as “Dr. Rice“ and called his testimony ”garbage.” Brinkley replied, “[It's] Dr. Brinkley. Rice is a university. I know you went to Yuba College and you couldn’t graduate.”

“I’ll call you anything I want to call you when you sit in that chair. You just be quiet,” Young quipped.

“You don’t own me,” Brinkley shot back. “I pay your salary.”

Committee Chairman Doc Hastings (R-WA) then stepped in and got into an argument with Brinkley about proper decorum.

You can watch it unfold below:

Young eventually admitted his mistake. But for the record, Seattlepi.com reports, “After a stint in the Army, Young eventually did get through Yuba Community College in California and went on to graduate from Chico State College.”

Young does, however, have a history of controversy. Not only did he once brandish a oosik (Walrus penis) at Mollie Beatty, the first woman to head the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, but he also championed the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere.”

Comments (164)

  • Lordchamp
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 9:04am

    Publiu so would you then advocate just giving everything back to the animals and us living a our ancestors with no advances? It seems sometimes that is what the environmentalist want. I would truly love to see most of them give that a try. They wouldn’t last a week.

    Now on to the reality of it. As another old saying goes that most have forgotten on BOTH sides, everything in moderation.

    Animals and our environment are very adaptable as are we. Almost anything can be done in a way as to not hurt and destroy either if common sense and lack of greed from BOTH sides can be applied.

    Yes, we can drill AND be environmentally responsible at the same time.

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    • canadianlady
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 9:38am

      The unreasonableness of the environmentalists is destroying their cause, particularly ever since the mask fell off the face of the man-made global warming scam. Even though it’s entirely based on junk science, these people are still pushing their agenda. Most people I know don’t even care about the environmentalist movement anymore.

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    • Choctaw25
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:05am

      As the winner of my High School Science Fair in 1957 with a Project entitled; “2015-The Coming Ice Age”, I know for a fact that the enviro-nazis are garbage idiots and are as full of it as an upcoming Turkey on Thursday.
      Everyone of the belivers of so-called Global Warming, spouted by the leftist liberal professors of smart, need to do their research for themselves. All of the written and “proven science” up until the late eighties, proclaimed a new coming Ice Age, if we did not stop our evil human ways (insert all the list of things now said to be causing Global Warming) of life.
      They were either pushing a lie then, or they are pushing a lie now. Either way, they are lying through their teeth.
      Google; Time Magazine article on Coming Ice Age, dated June 1974. See for yourself that they are lying and will always be lying. Does anyone think Time Magazine is a right wing, Conservative, Tea Party sponsored magazine?????????????
      If you want to be smart, all you have to do is READ and don’t swallow the BS put out by the MSM and the liberal Democrat party hacks. You don’t need a college degree to have good plain common sense.
      Oh and by the way, I am not giving the Plaque or the small amount of money that I received for winning the Science Fair back. Stick it in your ear Al Gore.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:07am

      Sarah Palin did not help elect this gentleman to be a Bully!

      Many of us are resentful that our dreams have been squashed by big Government.Many of us believe that were it not for the United States Government, we would be wealthy, happy Job Creators. We are being prevented from living our dreams by the evil elected establishment.

      Like; if it were not for all the police and the FBI; we could be famous gunslingers like Billy the Kid.

      TEA

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:09am

      Yes, we can drill AND be environmentally responsible at the same time. Perhaps. But is the balance they are looking for. Unlike what transpired in the Gulf after Cheney decided that the US didn’t need to follow the safety requirements which were standard throughout the world.

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    • SoulReaver
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:28am

      I agree that the environuts need to be given a dose of common sense, however corporations have also shown their colors by how much of our planet they are willing to destroy for profit. So you would hope that there is a middle ground where both are somewhat satisfied.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:35am

      Sounds like someone had too much coffee!

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:36am

      Enviromentalist dont give a ratsass about the enviroment, its a power and money and control game, they are against energy for America …. They are leftist sociailist communists first and foremost, they are using enviromentalism as a front, just like the leftists in education, its always for the children, NOits about salary and benefits and union dues……..

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 11:24am

      Detroit Paper Boy,
      You’re delusional and you should seek the help of a professional.

      If you’ve never taken a geography class that focused on weather then it is understandable why you would be unable to equate “global warming” with colder weather. To put it simply, Melting glacial water gets into the global conveyor belt system of MEGA undercurrents. Believe it or not, it cools regions of the ocean and alters the weather pattern in those regions and can cause extreme cold weather as a result. That’s a really watered down explanation. But while I was taking that class that was explaining in detail the reality of “global warming” my economics professor was telling me it was fake. Hmmmm. Who should I believe? Meanwhile, my economics TEXTBOOK was telling me other truths such as why it is untrue when people say that our grandkids are going to bear the burden of our debt. The same was said during WWII but over 90% of that cost was paid by the taxpayers of that day. The same applies now.

      You can sit on your couch and speculate all you want to but your opinions are uninformed.

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    • skitrees
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 11:25am

      @Choctaw25: Bravo!!

      I was brainwashed throughout the 70s. I grew up with two fears: Russia was going to blow us up while we slept, or we were going to freeze in an iceberg before 2010. Neither proved to be true.

      The incessant preaching of the environmental religion (and yes, it IS a religion) by my teachers was reprehensible. This wasn’t just from science teachers, but from English teachers, social studies teachers, PE teachers…everyone seemed to worship at the feet of “mother earth” and preach from the same pulpit.

      If people truly care about the separation of church and state, then something needs to be done about the religion of environmentalism – where faith is required, science ceases to exist, and religion takes its place.

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    • dopie joe
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 12:10pm

      I live here in Texas in a region that has probably the oldest oilfields in the state,full of cattle ranches,large farms w/wheat fields covering several acres,along with large dairies,pipelines everywhere,and just recently there has been a wind farm installed and they are fixing to install two more wind farms.I drive the county roads often and see deer,turkey,quail,wild hogs,rattle snakes,you name it.This business about not exploring for oil and gas in Alaska,because it would harm the wild animal population is a bunch of B.S.This has got to stop.We need independence from foreign oil and to he// with all of those countries who are out to kill us.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 12:17pm

      MONACNE….for sarcasm to be effective..it must have wit. Yours lacks both effectiveness and wit.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 12:34pm

      i do one better when people mess up my last name. i walk up to them and ask to see where they are reading this from, “show me”, then i ask them to sound it out letter by letter. People are so unobservant and illiterate today is almost sickening.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 1:33pm

      idiot prof and idiot rep. stupid has no boundries.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 1:46pm

      Sure, but you see this is the kind of behavior you can expect from the elitist ruling class. Even if we elected them.

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:22pm

      Drill baby drill – Remember the controversy when the Alaskan pipeline was being build? The pipeline crossed a Caribou migration area and they green party said it was going to affect the travel. They raised the pipeline, the Caribou walked under the pipeline and ignored it. Drilling in the preserve will not harm the wildlife.

      OMG

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 3:30pm

      You are partly right.. The Greenies want US to live as our ancestors did 4-5 Millenia ago. They of course, would not have to live the same way, since THEY, like Al Bore, are more important to society than US.

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    • bioengineer
      Posted on November 22, 2011 at 12:24pm

      They’re both idiots. He’s right, Rep Young is a loud-mouthed bafoon that couldn’t even graduate from a no-name college. On the other hand though, what does it say about the effectiveness of government when we invite PhDs in history to give their “professional” opinions about the environmental effects of oil drilling? Why is that guy even there? Dr. Brinkster is not an engineer, he’s not a chemist, he’s not a biologist, he’s not a scientist of any kind. He’s a liberal arts history professor. This exchange highlights the whole debacle that is our congress.

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  • boca_chica
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:51am

    Here you have two people that have spent soo much time ( the representative getting elected and the academic learning one subject) that they cannot interact with each other. I‘ve met PhD’s that are very smart and people who have only a high school education that are just as smart, just no paper to prove it. Courtesy is is at least rquired until the person proves he’s just silly. Arrogance on both sides does not move the discussion foward, but can be funny.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:56am

      The entire exchange, and it’s attendant panopoly of puffery is just as amusing as Palin for President.

      TEA

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    • Unix
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 9:12am

      mocineyes you would say that about Palin, why don’t try to live in the real world with grownups, instead of acting like the child you are?

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 12:45pm

      @biblequotin moron
      I guess when we came out of the ice that was mans fault also? You and your enviro commie friends just want to starve America of the energy we need , because you hate this country and you hate to see people suceed without govt. If you gave a ratsass about the neviroment then go to China or India where the true damage is occuring, oh thats right they aint buyin your crap either….

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    • Fearnone
      Posted on November 22, 2011 at 8:43pm

      MONICNE (or whatever bich name you use), FYI: Palin did not support this *****, but you are a liar so what does it matter as long as the ends justify the means…Right creep?

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  • mbriz
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:51am

    This arrogance by the a-hole from Alaska shows the contempt the pols have for the American public, and you support it? Supporting these idiots is why nothing changes, and Washington stays corrupt.

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    • IIIcorp
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 9:25am

      The arrogance is from The Professor. Living in he Houston area. the local news likes to get his opinion on almost every political issue. The Professors attitude is I have a PHD, I am a Professor and if you don’t agree with what I say, it is because you are not intelligent enough to understand why I am always right.

      A family friend with two PHD’s told me when I was younger, “Be careful, the world is full of educated idiots.”

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    • LobsterBoy
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 9:49am

      You need to look no furhter than the OWS crowd to see the end product of these liberal, often socialist, “professors”. They‘re a big part of the many facets of this country’s decline.

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    • jens63
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 5:11pm

      The arrogance was from the professor, a polite correction of his name is all that was necessary. But he had to get insulting about education, now is that not elitist rudeness in the extreme?!

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    • cromag11b
      Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:53am

      How is the arrogance from the professor? If the questioner is going to do an interview and pan the research he should at least know who he is addressing.

      Or is this falling along ‘GOP = Good, Educated = Bad’ lines like things usually do?

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  • BO_Bill
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:40am

    Professor Brinkley, author of The Rise to Globalism: American Foreign Policy Since 1938, is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He does not appear to have held employment outside of academia and judeo-politics. Professor Brinkley creates value only in his own mind. In practice, he simply re-assigns it by the power of office.

    Therefore, I tend to side with Representative Young, bearer of the oosik. Perhaps in our next form of government, we can resolve these differences of opinion in a cage.

    On national energy policy, we need to consider that while we have 300 years of domestic petroleum available in the form of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming oil shale. It can be safely extracted for around $30/barrel.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:49am

      I‘ve no idea what your comment about ’judeao-politics means, but I hope it is not racist.

      This professor is a radical leftist who should be exposed and not taken for anything but.

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    • DoubleThrowDown
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:31am

      @Bill might want to recalculate your math on 30$ a barrel oil. That price has raised to about 60$ to 65$ a barrel with all the new regulations and inflation

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  • StrangernFiction
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:39am

    Young is a RINO and Brinkley is a ‘rat. A pox on both their houses.

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  • Mattyboy
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:39am

    I would have been pissed too! You tell them, you got a word in for all of us Americans. Calling you garbage-the balls! I am so pissed I can hardly type!

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  • olddog
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:38am

    These days do we really consider someone smart because they went to college??? How about smug?

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  • Danola
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:35am

    Doug Brinkley is a leftist hack. He taught leftist propaganda at the Univ. of New Orleans for years and recently went to Houston to continue his leftist teachings at Rice. He claims to an historian. He has written a number of books on presidents and they all reflect his intentions of rewriting history to suit his radical, leftist views. Brinkley is one of the top useful idiots that the media turns to when they want an “expert” to tell them what they want to hear. Brinkley is a dangerous little man.

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  • cyclops
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:34am

    LMAO……………………I guess the Liberal Professor should have said, “for the record I’m not Mr Rice” and not rudely reponded like that, but I guess that is what the left extremists love to do; they think their views are the only accepted ones out there and would intrude on anyone’s right and property like what they did at Trinity……Hehehehehe….do not allow them to use your restroom or they are going to think that they have the right to expand “tent city” on your private parking lot or front lawn……

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  • MONICNE
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:30am

    Sounds like the Gentleman from Alaska got himself backed into a corner, and like sister Sarah, was genetically unable to diplomatically apologize and move on. He could be a proud elected representative of the best people in our nation. Instead he will be remembered for bone headed ornery rudeness.

    TEA

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:47am

      WOW, you are such a MORON to bring Sarah Palin into this discussion. WHAT A BIGOT to say ALL ALASKANS are genetically deficient. Pretty IGNORANT.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:54am

      Please relax. Obviously all Alaskans are not genetically deficient, and no one said that. We do however reserve the right to compare trashy behavior by public figures and elected officials that claim Alaska as their little piece of heaven on earth.

      TEA

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    • Cigar
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 9:45am

      Yawn…..

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    • 65Mustang
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 12:34pm

      Trashy behavior is promoted by the Democrats that make up Congress.

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  • NOTAMUSHROOM
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:21am

    So to sum it up:

    Sleepy not so smart career GOP Congressman makes a slip of the tongue mistake.
    Elite smarts$$ academic liberal progressive resorts to sophomoric, unnecessary ad hominem attack.
    SNSSCGOP Congressman responds with a retort-in-kind.

    And we wonder why we’re having problems? Seems to me that the bodies that these two represent are two of the biggest problems in this country. Throw in Wall Street and the unions and there you have the whole pile of garbage.

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:37am

      And the unionized schools keep turning out world class dumb ***** to keep voting for something for nothing………..sounds like ‘hope and change’ to me.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:51am

      AND YET, when we send in NEW BLOOD, like the Tea Party members, all they can do is turn and BLAME them for taking over the “conversation” and causing all the problems of the last ten years? We’re screwed… I say we OCCUPY all of our earned income and sTOP PAYING ALL TAXES. Let’s see what they do when we stop FINANCING them! Take a lesson from Van Jones…IF WE ALL DO IT, HOW WILL THEY RESPOND. THEY CAN’T ARREST ALL OF US OR THROW US ALL IN JAIL!

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  • Uechi
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:21am

    It would have been more appropriate to call this tenured POS ” Dr. Dumb Ass” rather then Dr. Rice, In any event they all look like little school kids.

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  • reconmarine
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:15am

    The professor is a liberal. He would have to pay taxes before he could pay the congressman’s salary.
    Saying “I pay your salary” doesn’t work for liberals since they pay none.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 9:07am

      Really, Liberals don’t pay any taxes? How, that comes as news to me, I paid over ten thousand in taxes last year and I’ve been a Liberal all my life. Making dumb statements like that is one of the reasons people think all Marines are binary thinkers, when they think at all. Don’t like the stereotype? Nobody does, so why don’t you do some research before you shoot off your mouth. The average salary for a Rice Professor is $155,000. He pays taxes.

      http://oira.unc.edu/faculty-salaries-at-research-and-aau-universities.html

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  • macpappy
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:15am

    Here we go again. The Blaze writers, giving us the HUFPO side of the story. This article was about bashing a Republican. They are slow feeding the Blaze with left wing talking points. Hiring HUFPO writers, was a very bad mistake made by Glenn Beck. When I want my news with no political lean, I go to Drudge, but when at Blaze I am looking for Right wing commentary, not left wing.

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    • Windwalker
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:45am

      You are s-o-o-o- right!…..and I have posted this fact on the Blaze more than once. Old habits die hard and in the case of Betsy Morgan, they most likely won’t ever die. I couldn’t believe that the Blaze would intentionally let this liberal progressive infiltrate their ranks, but they did and see what it begats, and apparently no one other than the readers are paying attention.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:54am

      The truth has no agenda. The Blaze reported and showed in their own words. Now you can decide who was right and who was wrong.

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  • kuhl
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:09am

    Just goes to show it doesn’t matter if there is an (R) or a (D) after your name. An idiot is still an idiot.

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  • RodentKing
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:05am

    Don Young, messed up by calling this Liberal A hole Mr Rice.
    He would have had he upper edge if this idiot didn’t take offense

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  • wkw58
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:55am

    Well then, who doesn’t have an oosik handy when a good “pointing” is in order?

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:15am

      I think the larger question here is what was he doing with a walrus penis in the first place or is that how they roll in Alaska these days? Who’s sick? You sick? Gotta have some oosik !

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  • Cranky
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:54am

    I didn’t watch the video, the text said everything I need to know.
    He needs to go. There are far better real conservatives who will put his state and his country first. As for just another liberal, tree hugn‘ college professor’s diatribe….
    Yawn….

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  • Secessionista
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:54am

    I wish all hearings were like that. It’s about time people speak their mind.

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    • TX VOL
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:41am

      I’m with you. I’m not real concened who is what party but if a congressperson talked to me like that I would have said the same thing. You don’t talk to your boss like that “You just sit there and be quiet”. I think this is the issue with the government, they forget they work for us and not the other way around.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:54am

    .
    WOW!!!! We almost had us a Denny’s moment……………….

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  • jerseygirl58
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:54am

    it shows the sad side of both…. the political mess we are in PLUS the extremely obnoxious “better than everyone” academia elite jackasses… how pompous of the ******* from rice to knock someone for going to a community college…..and furthermore…don’t taxpayers pay money to universities such as Rice…..so the way I see it is WE PAY FOR BOTH OF THEIR SALARIES…. maybe we are doomed as a society…..

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:53am

    Wow! If he didn’t like being called “Dr. Rice”, he sure wouldn’t like the name I have for him.

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  • Hickory
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:47am

    Years ago, I represented a company that would provide support to a major university. The grant had been given to them every year with no strings. The university never gave back anything for the gift over the years. I changed the rules of the game and required a deliverable from the project being supported. They descended upon me with an army of PhDs. I just lined them up and asked what did I get for my money. The first one said “prestige”. The next one said nothing. The department head threatened to take the case to the board of directors. I threw ‘em out and told them to come back the next week with deliverables and due dates. Their attempt with the board failed and they were referred back to me. It does the heart good to see six PhDs who never worked a day in their life come back with their hats in hand all lined up to kiss some @$$. They got their grant and I got deliverables. The department head had a name for me……….. “*******”. I then gave him a name…… “LAZY”. The meetings were interesting.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:57am

      “six PhDs who never worked a day in their life”

      Typical stupidity. If they mowed lawns for a living, you wouldn’t hesitate to call them hard workers. If they dug ditches and then filled them in, you’d call them workers, but since they studied for years to get an advanced degree and reach a level of specialization in a field that so few ever do, you say that they’ve never worked a day in their life.

      Getting a Ph.D. is long, difficult work. Many have to take other jobs on the side to afford graduate school. The idea that this isn’t “work” is just ignorant.

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    • IAMMADDOG
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:22am

      I know plenty of people with PhD’s. The degrees don’t mean crap. MOST of the a-holes who get them feel they are above everyone else and MOST have not an ounce of common sense thus rendering ANY degree useless.

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    • Hickory
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:24am

      PubliusPencilman, I know very well what is required to earn a PhD. I also know that the majority of the PhDs we have today are useless. Many have worked for me. The few good ones were people who worked in low level jobs while also working to attain the level of PhD. Those who go to school under special grants or the largesse of their parents generally are not worth the powder to blow my nose. I have known people, including members of my own family who are PhDs that worked hard and attained that degree level in some very technical fields. They excelled and continue to contribute. Then, there were those who just wanted to sit in their office and write papers and reviews at my expense………… that didn’t last long. I suspect that if you possess that level of degree, it is in education. Am I correct? It galls me to get that kind of guff from a part time educator to one who excelled in engineering and physics. Need I say more or are you just a lazy leftist?

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:50am

      I work for a school district and in many ways I’ll second what Hickory says. It seems the higher education people go with their degrees the dumber and more arrogant they get. Almost across the board they all seem to lose their common sense and reality when the letters are added to their name. I seems as though that is a requirement.

      As to the not working. ANYONE can get a phd if they are willing to put in the time. It requires no skill in most cases, just time and persistence, and of course outrageous sums of money. Once they have it, to go along with the arrogance seems to come the attitude that I’ve arrived and therefore should not be required to do anything else in my life.

      Yes, this is a generality and does not fit everyone but in my experience it does fit the majority which gives the rest a bad name also.

      I have very little respect for the education system as a whole. The proof is in the pudding as the old saying goes.

      No progress in the past 40 years or so speaks volumes for the people involved in it I would say. If any other industry had that bad of a track record it would no longer exist.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 10:34am

      So you have already conceded that your assumption that Ph.D.s never work a day in their lives is incorrect. Looks like I win.

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    • outrider
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 12:48pm

      I saw a lot of “dead wood” professors at university. Usually in Liberal Arts where there was a lot of pontificating (and brainwashing?) going on but little of value getting done. However, don’t tar all professors with the same brush. Most profs in the technical/healthcare fields work their butts off. All those grant dollars that, e.g. engineering profs bring in to fund their research are first “taxed” by the university to support many liberal arts programs that cannot or will not support themselves. Administrators take it off the top of the grant money that the engineering prof has brought in after investing sometimes hundreds of hours pursuing those dollars. This means that engineering and other tech professors have to go out and find more money to make up for what was siphoned off for the non-producers. This, plus teaching and counseling students, running their research programs, writing and publishing the required books and journal articles and participating in various committees. It usually adds up to about a 70 hour work week. For some of the engineering/tech profs, if they fail to obtain those research contracts they won’t get paid because their salaries are exclusively dependent on research grant dollars.
      We used to say that PhD stands for “piled higher and deeper,” and sometimes, as the very petulant DOCTOR Brinkley has shown us, it is true, but not always.

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    • Jimbo49
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:22pm

      Granted, study and excelling in acedemia requires work. Most pursuits describe current thinking in their field as “theory”. Sometimes these theories are tested and sometimes they are not. Nevertheless, these theories will continue to be taught. Many of our “best and brightest”, go from student to teacher, without ever working in the field they are studying/teaching. I think that was Hickory’s point. Student to teacher, without ever working in the field. Acedemia will tell us about a more socialist/marxist economic theory, and how great it would be. It has been taught almost exclusively since the 1960′s. I would argue that it is those teachings, and their implementation, that are responsible for our current ecconomic woes. The PhD’s are arguing, the reason these policies haven’t worked yet, is because we haven’t gone far enough. Again to Hickory’s point, they are thinkers, (and perhaps clones of the party line), not doers.

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  • draginass
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:41am

    Go’s to show what kind of contempt these polititions have for the common american “I’ll call you what ever i want when you sit in that chair” realy?

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    • momsense
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:47am

      Contempt for the commpn American? The only one with contempt foor the commn American are the rabid psychotic environmentalists who prefer the Boocoo coo coo bird to thousands ot jobs for American families.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:55am

      draginass & momsense << Two brain surgeons discussing the story at hand ,spelling in tow.. pppfffttt !!!!

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:59am

      And when those families are living in a world with no wildlife, drinking polluted water and breathing polluted air, where is the respect coming from?

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    • killertofu
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:00am

      To be fair, I get a little hot-headed when faced with these elitist “academia” types. Calling them whatever I want is the very least of what I’d actually like to do sometimes…

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    • mbriz
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 8:44am

      Mom’s a moron.

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    • briefer
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 12:18pm

      You are right. These people are public servants – not little deities. When they talk to a citizen, any citizen, they need to show deference and respect. The People are the boss in this country, not the other way around. Doesn’t matter whether the congrersscritter has a D or R after their name, or whether they like the person “in the chair,” or not.

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on November 21, 2011 at 7:39am

    Funny!

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