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Gore Admits He Was Wrong About Ethanol Subsidies: ‘Not Good Policy’

Former Vice President Al Gore is admitting that he was wrong about “first generation” ethanol subsidies, calling them “not good policy” and admitting his support of them were clouded by his presidential ambitions.

From Reuters:

“It is not a good policy to have these massive subsidies for (U.S.) first generation ethanol,” said Gore, speaking at a green energy business conference in Athens sponsored by Marfin Popular Bank.

“First generation ethanol I think was a mistake. The energy conversion ratios are at best very small.

“It’s hard once such a programme is put in place to deal with the lobbies that keep it going.”

He explained his own support for the original programme on his presidential ambitions.

“One of the reasons I made that mistake is that I paid particular attention to the farmers in my home state of Tennessee, and I had a certain fondness for the farmers in the state of Iowa because I was about to run for president.”

Gore also said that rising food prices could be fueled by the ethanol craze. “The competition with food prices is real,” he said.

But Gore didn’t give up on a fuel subsidies altogether. Instead, he supports technology that extracts fuel from other things such as wood and grass. He called that process “second and third generation” ethanol, and supports it because he says it won’t compete with food.

UPDATE:

As Noel Sheppard over at NewsBusters reminds us, “Gore was the tie-breaking vote in the Senate mandating the use of ethanol in 1994.”

Sheppard shares his thoughts:

So more than ten years ago, Gore supported an expensive, “not good policy” because he thought it would help him get elected president.

Yet media don‘t believe he’d misrepresent the threat of manmade global warming in order to become extremely rich.

UPDATE II:

As Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey points out, a 2005 Slate report shows that the next generation of ethanol production as touted by Gore is just as expensive as the “old” kind:

David Pimentel, a professor of ecology at Cornell University who has been studying grain alcohol for 20 years, and Tad Patzek, an engineering professor at the University of California, Berkeley, co-wrote a recent report that estimates that making ethanol from corn requires 29 percent more fossil energy than the ethanol fuel itself actually contains.

The two scientists calculated all the fuel inputs for ethanol production—from the diesel fuel for the tractor planting the corn, to the fertilizer put in the field, to the energy needed at the processing plant—and found that ethanol is a net energy-loser. According to their calculations, ethanol contains about 76,000 BTUs per gallon, but producing that ethanol from corn takes about 98,000 BTUs. For comparison, a gallon of gasoline contains about 116,000 BTUs per gallon. But making that gallon of gas—from drilling the well, to transportation, through refining—requires around 22,000 BTUs.

In addition to their findings on corn, they determined that making ethanol from switch grass requires 50 percent more fossil energy than the ethanol yields, wood biomass 57 percent more, and sunflowers 118 percent more. The best yield comes from soybeans, but they, too, are a net loser, requiring 27 percent more fossil energy than the biodiesel fuel produced. In other words, more ethanol production will increase America’s total energy consumption, not decrease it. [Emphasis added]

Comments (274)

  • Cabo King
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:47am

    Gores brain has swelled up from global stupidity

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  • grandmaof5
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:46am

    Gore thought he could make the big bucks; he didn’t give a flip about the farmers or anybody who had to pay higher prices for corn products. He is the true definition of a “money grubbing ho”.

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    • ilovethiscountry
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:58am

      From another grandma of 5. It was pretty obvious that his green agenda was to make money. If it wasn’t he would be following a green living agenda. I wonder what he has to gain by admitting he was wrong!!

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  • Outland9
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:42am

    Wrong? WRONG? – mr gore you’ve never been right!

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  • temple62
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:42am

    The sex crazed poodle comes out of hiding.

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  • p8triot
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:42am

    It has to be hard for Al after his Global Warming pet died.

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    • Goldenyears22
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:51pm

      It isn’t totally dead yet, I’m still hearing they are trying to revive that dead horse.

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  • livingfree
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:41am

    Beware, I am guessing he has another scam brewing. We should not be surprised that a left wing nut job politician is out for anything but his own agenda.

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  • ProudTeaPartyMember
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:40am

    “I only wanted these subsidies so I would advance my own political career. I didn’t care if it screwed America and Americans”.

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  • 13thgenerati0namerican
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:39am

    Al Gore if you idiots remember!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gave us those tax credits…HELLO? Wake up America Al gore is not your enemy, the conservative right is your enemy Wake Up America and fight injustices laid upon us by the evil right!

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    • M31Sailor
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:25am

      13th
      Dan here. Get help fast

      Pleadingly

      Dan Foster

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    • Max jones
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:43am

      hey 13 It is very apparent to me that what we need is balance. Less accusations and partisanship and more co-operation. Less anger and more concern. The Right is not evil, but communism IS. The right wants to restore our liberties and individual responsibility. The left wants to take care of those people who can’t do it on their own. Both of these goals are honorable. Our natural resources are getting very expensive, and our needs increase every day. Terrorism affects everyone, and our security should be a priority for both sides. If the Left can’t do it without despotism then let the free market have a chance. There is no reason to imprison ourselves with intrusive laws and statutes. Be brave. Not fearful. Be faithful. Not full of doubt. Helpful, not a hindrance to freedom.
      Do you really want martial law? Do you really think we are safer with out our firearms?do you really want to pay 100.00 for a loaf of bread? We must rein in the Fed and put some fiscal responsiblity back in our govt. It is going to take TEAMWORK to get anything done.
      Are you a mindless sheep willing to do whatever it takes to install world governance? Are you an American who is proud of his nation and wants to get it back from the greedy overlords that are threatening our very lives.
      The Tea party took the first step toward restoration, and put some people in office who have a chance to begin the purge that must take place if we are to survive as a nation. The progressive movement IS the push for the New World Order, and can’t be the answer.
      The average man is NOT your enemy, He is your hope for the future.

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    • nephewofdboone
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:59am

      You’re seeing a whole team of psychiatrists, aren’t you? It isn’t helping.
      –Sixteenth Generation American

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    • proudinfidel54
      Posted on November 23, 2010 at 1:19am

      Max Jones you are wasting your time on this guy not that your words were not eloquent, they just fell on deaf ears, 13th degeneration thrives on discourse.

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  • TexasHillsPatriot
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:39am

    Ambissions? Are you kidding me? Who is writing this stuff, third graders? That’s not just a typo!

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    • GMango
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:46am

      I agree. I like the site but I cringe every time I read it. It’s like a school newspaper, very amateur with all the typos and bad writing. Is there no money in the budget for an editor or proofreader?

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    • proudinfidel54
      Posted on November 23, 2010 at 1:23am

      Gmango & Texashillspatriot you two can’t see the forest for the trees…lighten up

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  • Anonimouse
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:38am

    Oops.

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  • Jake Wilde
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:38am

    Moron! This entire subject burns me up to no end. Americans are pushing for recreational and medicinal use of marijuana, but we don’t consider hemp for industry. It is the only thing that could work yet we want to make algae or sugar beets magically work. People wake up and stop the 1930 propaganda.

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    • svedka
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:51am

      Thats right, I just ordered hemp material for draperies in the house. Cost was reasonable, they will be machine washable and durable. Everyone smoking this stuff must be too busy watching Good Times reruns to really be thinking. Hemp is a very large part of history and was there for the founding of this country.

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    • Jake Wilde
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:14am

      Henry Ford wanted to use hemp for bio-methanol to power cars. He had fields of it. Modern cars can run directly on it and it doesn’t take 25 gallons of fresh water per gallon made to produce it. Ethanol is the dumbest thing there ever was as it is an additive that is harsh on engines and not a primary fuel source. This is all a big lie and they don’t want people to know the truth.

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    • proudinfidel54
      Posted on November 23, 2010 at 1:13am

      Willie Nelson did a commercial about useing Hemp instead of trees for paper pulp the crop would only take 6 monthes to repopulate compared to 20 years for pine trees and the yeild per acre would be comperable, yet the gov. ignores these facts. For those of who think the crop would be misused need only realize that the male plants are the ones used for hemp production and any stoner would tell you that the male plants aren’t any good for getting high.

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  • Bobby P
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

    My car uses recycled dinosaurs. I guess I’m green.

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    • aLinedog
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:54am

      Hahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahhaha!!!! Brilliant!

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    • KCMike
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 5:27pm

      I want that as a bumper sticker!

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  • 338lapua
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

    It is truly breathtaking that what I and many, many others have known and also have spoken out about is only just now dawning on a goof like ALGORE. Ethanol was filthy when it was first used, it is filthy now. The damage it does to engines and fuel systems is monumental. And we are using our food supply…..for really inferior fuel. Welcome to planet Earth AL!

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  • pcantidote
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

    So he admits that it was all about getting votes in Iowa. Did you hear that you mindless progressive sheep?

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  • BernieKittyCat
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

    Do you mean “ambitions”? That’s the 2nd typo in 3 articles this morning, guys!

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  • jagr1850
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

    that al gore is certainly one smart dude !!!! i knew his three brothers well…..MOE…LARRY AND CURLY……REAL FUNNY GROUP OF GUYS…

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  • Conserving Ink
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:35am

    Subsidies of any sort are an assault on the Free Market, they skew the results of honest dealings. The problem is Liberals don’t trust the results of honest dealings. They can’t control them or understand the motivation behind them.
    __________________________________________________________
    http/:conserving-ink.blogspot.com

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    • James
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:54am

      Exactly! Everytime the govenment steps in to “help”, they make things worse.

      http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com

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    • ron the veteran
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:57am

      ******** just want to get a cut of everything they think they are intitled to take it from others. just so they can give it to anyone who will vote for them and give some back to them. ie. the unions. i got something for those who think they are intitled to any of my property, and ill bet they cant carry it for very far eather. its time to put an end to this government theft of our money. we pay it we should say how much we will spend for government. and we need a civilian ethics board for our government. and everyone has to answer to them.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:53pm

      Ron, that’s not a bad idea, made up of buisness leaders, parents and regular working class Joes. The very people the gov is robbing blind.

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:18pm

      @Ron

      Excellent to the extreme. Lets get it done.

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  • 13thgenerati0namerican
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:35am

    My friend Dan Foster says that it’s not good to eat breakfast foods for dinner. Allthough he may be some authority on the matter..he is in charge of the green nation of greater Elkhart county but I digress I just love breakfast for dinner. It’s delicious pancakes and those fat sausages that I look forward to all day long and at last night arrives and Dan has to get all over me for eating breakfast for dinner! Whats up Dan? you got me all wrong man! I need to eat, Man’s gotta eat!

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    • M31Sailor
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:51am

      13th
      Dan here, I didn’t like you as a kid. When you pulled the wings off of fly’s, or when you put the kitten’s in a burlap bag and threw them in the river, I knew you were gonna turn out bad. I stopped letting you hang around us when i caught you trying to molest that 8 year old boy. Thank God I stopped you before the TSA patdown you were forcing on this kid went very far. Please stop sending me these love notes because my wife gets very upset at your perversions.. Please lose my number, your calling my cell 30 times a day is rather irritating.
      Truly
      Dan Foster

      M31Sailor  
    • 13thgenerati0namerican
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:58am

      You wish you were half the man Dan Foster is! he helps those less fortunate, and he would even help you! Stop wasting my time and get out there and WAKE UP AMERICA!

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:05am

      M31Sailor.. TOO FUNNY! :) You should have mentioned that his mommy, Arianna called and wants him to come home now to the hufy po. Thanks, made my day.

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    • M31Sailor
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:14am

      13th
      Dan here.I tried to help you (less fortunate) but no matter what I advised you , nothing stuck. Please stop hanging around where I volunteer, even the Down‘s Syndrome kid’s are complaining about you. BTW, I was looking thru my great great grandfathers copy of the Elkhart Daily News and came across this headline “First Generation American arrested for molesting a sheep”, Please lose our number.
      Imploringly Dan Foster

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    • mrclean
      Posted on November 23, 2010 at 6:29pm

      13thgen,
      Mrs. Foster here. We know you love sucking on those fat breakfast wieners at night, but how bout you man up and leave those little breakfast boys…oops, I mean wieners alone. I am sick of seeing that disgusting juice running down your chin you little slime ball.

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  • halfbrain
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:34am

    Thanks Al…now go away.

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  • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:34am

    Al Gore is still in the economic clueless zone, and is most likely poised to make a future from any movement in the corn and ethanol markets. I am so glad he was not made President, or we would already have been in worse shape than ever, at least until Obama came along.

    http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm

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    • 1TrueOne55
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:59pm

      The only thing an Al Gore presidency would have done was to start this process earlier and then Obama would not have been president, he would still be a Senator in Congress since then Bush would not have been president and all the crap that went with it.

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  • john seven eighteen
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:34am

    Good grief, did someone slip him some truth serum? If not, watch out ‘cuz he’s selling something else, folks?

    BTW, ambissions????? Come on.

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  • ebaytoad
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:33am

    Don’t worry Mr.Gore, we get it…..course you already know karma is a b***ch!

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  • 13thgenerati0namerican
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:33am

    I love pancakes in the morning, but I will also eat a burger or something delicious like that!

    13thgenerati0namerican  
  • M31Sailor
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:32am

    Gore the carbon whore

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:03am

      THE GREAT “GLOBAL WARMING HOAX”

      The proposals to combat “GLOBAL WARMING” have more potential to destroy our freedom and prosperity than any issue since WORLD WAR II. The cost of energy is increased by all these proposals. Energy is contained in all the products used to sustain our lives.

      These proposals will be devastating to the poor, where the cost of survival consumes all their income.

      Do you realize that these proposals are to combat an issue that has not even been proven to exist?
      AND YOU LAUGH AT DON QUIXOTE?

      THESE PROPOSALS WILL ONLY ENHANCE THE POWER OF THE “PEERS.” “CAP AND TRADE WILL DESTROY YOUR WEALTH AND FREEDOM!!

      BRACE YOURSELF, THOMAS PAINE, REJOICE YOU “PEERS” THE TYRANNY OF
      KING GEORGE III IS BEING RESTORED BUT UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT!
      http://commonsense21c.com/CLIMATE.html

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:57am

      He needs to give back the money he has made promoting FRAUD!

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    • mrclean
      Posted on November 23, 2010 at 6:14pm

      Whore Gore, who supposedly launched the internet, is a lying bastard of a polititian who’s right up there with oblahma the socialist and his entire admininstration. Losers every one.

      Our only hope, as most of us already know, is God. We do our part by vetting every single candidate running for high office in 2012 and there might be an itty bitty slight sliver of a chance that maybe, just maybe, we’ll vote in a non-bastard and non-liar. There’s a first time for everything, even an honest polititian…… One can only hope.

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  • Shurmus
    Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:32am

    Welcome to your party, Mr. Gore

    http://www.slugbuddies.com

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:38am

      Welcome to the jungle of real life Mr Gore, it is about time.

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    • TruthTalker
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:41am

      Gore is wrong on much more than that.

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    • Bad Thunder
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:48am

      Gore admitting he was wrong? Better keep an eye on his other hand……..

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    • James
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:52am

      This is a start Mr. Gore but you have been wrong about much more than just this.

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:59am

      The question is, why didn’t Mr. Brilliant think that using corn to make ethanol would have a detrimental effect on food prices?? Didn’t any of his handlers inform him that corn, and corn products, make up a great deal of our food supply?? Isn’t it so sad that such a visionary man such as Al Gore could not see the corn maze for the corn field??
      Just remember this Al when the massage therapist brings you your bowl of corn flakes……the gas that is produced from it CANNOT be used to produce electricity for your eco-friendly, mercury filled, long-life light bulbs…..that is the inconvenient truth……

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:02am

      The real question is, has he ever been right? http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • HKS
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:06am

      I think old Al suffers form “George Costanza Itus” everything he says or thinks is wrong. He was borne 180 degrees out of real.

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    • drbage
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:07am

      Mr. Gore, how is the sale of your carbon credits going? Do you still think that you and your minions know more than the parents of America?

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    • Marc Jacobs
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:20am

      Dear Mr. Gore,
      May I recommend that you pick up a copy of “An Inconvenient Book.“ You will learn that you were wrong about the whole ”global warming thing” too. Now how do you go about making reparations to the entire world for this ridiculous religion that you have encouraged the world to join? You have a lot of work to do. Me, let me just take a moment of Thanksgiving and thank God for the Electoral College!

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    • pattyto
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:28am

      Is he gong give back the money he made of this? Doubt it.

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    • ron the veteran
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:41am

      WE KNEW YOU WERE WRONG LONG BEFORE YOU DID! al (lieing sac of crap) gore your a theif and a liar. you and your global warming scam you belong in jail for felony theft and fraud. your actions show you are not as conserned and you tell people. how much did you plan on making off the carbon credit scam? 10 trillion is big bucks every year. what was your cut mr gore? all you democommies need to be investigated and jailed for your actions. stand up america demand they all be prosicuted for their crimes against america and americans. we let them screw us then we pay them for life. what the hell is wrong with us? its no wonder obamacommies and the left think they can screw us. we let them do it all the time. its time to all stand up and hold them to account. no slaps on the hand or a good talking to. its no wonder they screw us. we dont hold them accountable. charly rangel gets a good talking to and a dont do that again. and hes reelected? what the hell is wrong with you america? where are the american balls we used to have? have you all turned into (excuse the word) ******? im watching my country fall apart because americans cant get off their asses long enough to do anything about it. im telling you youll get up when they are kicking down your door to take your guns. its too late then. the time to do it is now before they pull any more crap on us. its time to get all our questions answered by this prez and our government. if the answers are not right or they refuse to answer its time to remove them. i dont know about you but having two communist sitting on our supreme court is very bothersome. doesnt anyone check the backgrounds on anyone anymore? you dont leave any blanks on the question forms. no answer means no holdie office. we brought this on ourselves its up to us to fix it. and to you commies we will do what ever it takes to rid our nation of you.

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    • ron the veteran
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:42am

      no! im not pissed at all!

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:55am

      @snowleopard3200,

      That’s just the increasing lack of relevance talking.

      He know’s full well that Global Warming / Climate Change / Climate Disruption is a lie which is only designed to fulfill a Marxist agenda.

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    • barbaraw62
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:58am

      I wonder if he will give back the money to the American people? How about subsidizing us and our increased gas and food prices? HE shlemeal…….. oh, ooppss… he said he made a mistake…. Now what is he going to do about it? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is my guess… what’s yours?

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:56am

      Just a start … GORE is wrong on most things!

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:09pm

      Al, it must suck to always be the last to know……

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:51pm

      I am SHOCKED, totally SHOCKED!!!! I mean, who knew???!!!

      Was this a blinding flash of the obvious?

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:59pm

      Al is a liar and an idiot – nuf said. Only morons listen to Al.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAN9f9clmig
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_CsEgIfUX0

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    • kreese
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 1:52pm

      What has he been right about? He should be jailed for fraud!

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    • Beckofile
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:11pm

      Let’s see Mr.Goricle….Wrong about subsidising the use of shoving food into our gas tanks….Maybe wrong about gloBULL warming. Carbon Credit anyone?

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    • roguetea
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:13pm

      rogue, Thrashing Evolves America
      I believe, this admission of personal greed and governing stupidity will be measured as favorable, as compared to those who stupidly throw around the word ‘stupidly’ for the sake of racial greed. Does Gore wish to reshape the 2012 options? Gore is overloaded with opportunities, to confess greed and stupidity. Will he ever confess the biggies? Big Government is bad, free enterprise rules, representing the consenting governed is the only priority, the fundamentals of the Constitution, fiscal conservatism. I think not. The increasing mess made by the ruling party in DC coupled with the decisive surge at the start of this month, those on the far left with governing greed,… well, their heads thrash, speculating on manipulating freshened hope.

      Hillary has clearly decided to appear as the lead, the cool and calm lead, presumably hands off. But remember, she is a Progressive with Pragmatic overtones. Full reversal, a flip-flop, is, well progressively pragmatic. She stands prominently above the fray with no need to contend. Simply continuing as she is, holds her as striking down vantage. Does she speculate, post 11-2-10, her party is doomed to completely loose 12. Does she now speculate 2016 is the time to surge back? Will the likes of Gore and Dean make 12 a challenge? Might Hillary remain above it all, ready to rescue the party from utter chaos as the party decides on 12?

      Gyrating political has-beens, always raise questions. When, based on past rhetoric, politicians have distanced themselves from the heart and sole of American Exceptionalism, what they plot for theirs, and our, future will serve us poorly. However, It is entertaining to watch them flap in the high winds of one another and deepening currents of America’s best. The concept that their days are well over will be slow to dawn… some will always remain in the dark. Go for it Gore, you have a ton to confess and it will be good for your soul and the heart of the nation.
      tea party, Own 11, ROGUE ON

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:35pm

      1/3 rd of all corn produced goes to make ethonol. That is why food prices is high. There is corn in almost every processed food plus it is the primary live stock food. Ethonol costs so much to make it add around 40 cents to the price of every gallonof gas. It is not economical to make ethonol without Gov’t subsidies. Making ethonol mandatory actually increased our demand for oil by 15%. Ethonol/gas gets fewer miles per gallon than straight gas. It also allows unscrupilious dealers to water down gas. For every gallon of water they add they make $2.80+ pure profit. Watch the tail pipe of the car ahead of you at a red light. Watch the water run out.

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    • rosecityken
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 4:28pm

      So does this make him an “inconvenient ” truther? At the least it vindicates all of us who called him out as backed by bull$#!t and like noel sheppard questions “So more than ten years ago, Gore supported an expensive, “not good policy” because he thought it would help him get elected president.

      Yet media don‘t believe he’d misrepresent the threat of manmade global warming in order to become extremely rich?”

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    • tbone0106
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 6:21pm

      I worked years ago on the building of a POET ethanol refinery (the biggest still you can imagine) in Marion, OH. The POET people on site admitted to me that without the 45-cent-per-gallon subsidy from the US taxpayers and the federal mandate to put the ethanol in gasoline, POET would simply cease to exist.

      I’ve always said that we need government to do those things that no rational individual would ever consider doing.

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    • Art Vandalay
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 7:36pm

      welcome to reality

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    • John Gregory
      Posted on November 22, 2010 at 8:49pm

      Take it from wood… then building costs can go up.

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    • Robert W
      Posted on November 23, 2010 at 7:41pm

      Al Gorelione has been wrong before….I know, shocking. Who bout that 10ft…yes feet of snow, in Kirkland Ca. over the weekend. I know I know liberals…the earth is so warm that its cold. I didnt go to Harvard so that insanity doesnt make sense to me.

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    • LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
      Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:42pm

      You know what’s funny? Just today I saw a gas station sign advertising that it’s premium and midgrade gas was ETHANOL FREE! My reaction? HA! I did, I laughed out loud just like that! I think I heard it might ruin your carburator and engine or something silly like that. Easy fix, right? As for the food prices and other ridiculous assertions………………..TOLD YA SO! Al Gore, whatta piecea………
      …………………………………………….work!

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    • IOUQuidProQuo
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:46pm

      Thanks for “COMING CLEAN” on the biofuels AL G. <>Ethanol is the Energy Scam ofr the 21st Century. Worldwide investments rose from $5B in 1995 to 38B in 2005. Expected to top 100B by 2010 (chaching!) And Ethanol funded by 111th CONGRESS – duh. Big WINNERS/Investors: G.Soros, GE, BP, Ford, Shell, R.Branson,Cargill, and Carlyle Group. Like JoeDuhVP sayz – “This is a BIG F*&$ing Deal! And for all THE GREENIES – Ethanol increases threat of GLOBAL WARMING, destroys forests, and INCREASES food prices!(TIME pg40) Al baby – looks like your SKINs in the GAME. EgoREco ©2009!

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